Alonso has one of the most unique driving styles. The way that he purposely generates understeer to aid him in cornering is something that not many people do.
He knew that he needed to extract every bit of potential that the Renault car (R25 and R26 in particular) had with the unique characteristic of rear-biased weight distribution (almost 40/60). So while the front is more loose than the rear, he forced the tire wall to bounce around by intentionally under-steering the car and hit the apex early, because he knows that the rear is planted really well that he only needs to worry about the front side, which also aided by "tuned mass damper" that he perfected the technique and won both championship in '05 and '06.
After this video it is easy to understand how Raikkonen managed to win his first race for Ferrari. It was Schumacher`s car last years, and they had similar driving style, making it relatively easy to adopt to his style. And that is why he struggled so horribly when Alonso was his team mate. Ferrari always has been clear that they are team and work towards what is best as team, often supporting 1 driver at cost of another. I fully approve of that, but it did mean that car was built to fit Alonso, making it horrible for Kimi.
Exactly the same thing happened with Lewis Hamilton the same year. He declared recently that when he started in 2007 in the McLaren he was given Kimi's suspension and settings and he loved it cause they have very similar styles and that partially explains why Hamilton was so strong from the beginning.
Honestly man, it's more because Ferrari had such a car advantage in Melbourne. Kimi hated the 2007 and 2008 cars (especially over one lap, in the races it was better). Near the end of 2007 they made some steps forward in the setup, but in 2008 it was difficult again. They had too much understeer and crucially the Bridgestone tyres were VERY different from the Michelins he had used at McLaren.
Can't imagine the crew's reaction to it raining on their day of shooting for this video. Lucky for them they had Brundle who is just a top notch professional all around, bet he didn't even bat an eye.
@@RB747domme the thing that really amazes me is that not only is he driving an F1 car (which is, well, expected of an F1 driver but not necessarily easy) and commentating, but he's also driving it in different styles that don't necessarily come naturally to him. He's a super sharp driver to do that, whew.
Using the rear to get around a turn is arguably the fastest way to do it. Like Raikkonen and Schumacher does it. But it demands incredible car feel and reflexes. Perhaps that is why Schumacher is struggling a bit now. Because of his age that little extra edge got lost down the line. Just a guess.
Seb is just like Button while Max, Lewis and Leclerc all drive like Schumacher and Raikkonen and Ricciardo is similar to Alonso but slightly different. He makes the car slide a little more on exit in order to build greater momentum.
Seb is more known to prefer cars that are heavily planted on the rear and often likes to get on the gas early when exiting which somehow explains on some of his spins given how powerful the current hybrid V6 are
@@ciaronsmith4995 they litterally fucking said why they picked jenson its not because he's british its because he uses the textbook driving style A.K.A the racing line in the f1 games
@@ciaronsmith4995 nah mane button at that time was already a racewinner and was a prominent name in f1 as one of the best in the sport and also correlation is not causation back in the grooved tires pretty much noone else who is actually fast and in contention used the same style textbook style of Jenson alonso had different steering kimi and schumi used the rear of the car to get around corners
@@imissvine6737 No he wasn't. The big 3 were Kimi, Fernando and Michael. By far. He won a single race and was lucky to win that race. He wasn't considered elite at all. If you actually watched F1 back then you would know that, but you're clearly a relatively new fan or didn't watch live, in the tyre war. Cheers.
one with schumacher winning half or the races and raikkonen having to help out as number 2 schumacher, until his first retirement, made sure to have the entire team centered around him and that noone within the team could be a danger to him there is a reason why raikkonen came to ferrari after schumacher had stopped driving for them, and why montoya was not considered and alonso not until multiple years later
taveeeee ferrari already had brilliant engineers like brawn and an experienced number 2 driver giving feedback as well, so i"d guess there would not have been a development advantage with raikkonen instead of barichello but it could have been an advantage compared to choosing massa
AnarchistMetalhead Yes it't true and Kimi wouldn't had agreed to be number 2 in the team. It was all built around Schumacher and the other driver was basically driving for max second place. But what I meant in the first place was that with Kimi+Schumi they didn't have (but they wouldn't had needed to since we can assume here that Schumi was all that mattered) to develop two different cars as they pretty much had to do (but they can't) now sice Alonso and Räikkönen prefer so different cars. PS. My head hurts for my grammar errors.
Extremely interesting choice of drivers. Two of the chosen drivers were already champions (Alonso and Schumacher) and two of them became champions later (Button and Raikkonen).
azynkron please don't compare the worst f1 driver ever to Montoya :) JPM was agressive but very talented. Maldonado should be banned for life, it's maybe 2 years or more he didn't have a single CLEAN race
JPM fought for a world title in 2003......way better than Sato in that regard. In a Williams he was one of the fastest and most consistent. from 2001-2004 he was extremely good. Made mistakes but we all do.
Brundle: And Lance Stroll likes to evaluate the durability of the tyre walls at relatively low speeds in order to benefit from the turbulence caused by the waving of red flags
I envy you :) I was a Prost fan myself due to his calculated and non-risk taking way of driving (as he himself once stated "I try to win by driving the slowest as possible"), but I did respect Senna for his sheer speed and his gift to drive fast. It was like he was the exact opposite of Prost :)
There are 3 driving styles here: what I call the Prost style (likes understeer, as few hand movements as possible; Button and currently Vettel are like that); the Senna style (very aggressive, throws car into the corner, moves the car around; Alonso and Hamilton are both like that); and then the Schumacher style (very pointy front end and loose back end, likes the back end to steer the car; micro-corrections through fast corners, you can keep the car at 100 percent grip for longer through fast corners; Raikonnen is also like that)
good analogy, i think Max Verstappen falls into the Schumacher style aswell, since its told thats not just how he races in F1, but also how he sets his car up in sims. But in which of these 3 does leclerc fall?
I think this is the main reason for Kimi's problems this year. Alonso and Räikkönen have drastically different driving styles and this year's car just won't cooperate with Räikkönen. He has said himself that he needs something specific with the car and that ain't just happening right now.
+Ciaron Smith also remember the tyres and aero are completely different since 2009. all the drivers have changed their styles since Martin did this video
Well yeah, as with any other sport your only good for a few years, then your out. Especially nowadays, given the cars are so much faster in the corners, nowadays.
@@le-coup-détat What I mean is that the car he's driving here has a metal side-guard on the brake pedal preventing his left foot from moving sideways, also of course blocking the access to the brake pedal for his right foot.
Let me tell you my favourate styles 5. Fucking up the corner 4. Angle albon (hitting almost every barrier around monaco) 3. The verstappen ( max max super max max divebomb) 2. The checo ooooooooo (how the fucc is that car so thicc) 1. The mick shumacher system operator (penetrating the barrier at almost every track)
button and damon hill fangio, and senna, wurz all drove perfectly smoothly to the ideal line. schumacher, coulthard, hamilton, raikkonen turn in on the brakes.. hakkinen, pryce, (Gilles) villeneuve, (keke) rosberg, petersen, frentzen, herbert, montoya, alonso, turn in on the throttle and 'drift' the car.
Wow, at 3m52s when they cut away the cockpit and you can see right down the drivers legs as he screams around is spectacular and not something I’ve ever seen done before, brilliant work folks, thank you, simple, elegant, exceptional, thank you 😎👍
Tyres that didn't fade, and the R25 and R26 which both loved to get roughed about and ragged to death, were perfect combos for Nando to win 2 world titles
You could do that with TC, yes. But thats also was not fast. Not at all. Back in these days you did not loose traction. But still you could not just go full throttle and let traction control do everything. Thats slow. You need a some wheel spin to accelerate best. So a driver could still make a huge difference how he used and set-up TC and the good ones prefered less TC.
@FranklinMarshalSpain His style we saw in the old generation Renaults came about because of their huge rear weight bias and how the car was built around the tyres. He employed his massively aggressive style back then because that was the fastest way (at least for him) to drive the car. He doesn't drive that way anymore because the cars are no longer designed that way, as well as (correct me if I'm wrong here) weight bias having been standardised by the FIA.
Awesome video!! Interesting how a given year on a particular set of regulations favors a certain type of driving style. This year seems to favor Button's style over Hamilton's because of Pirelli's quick tire wear. Schumacher's style is favored now probably because of less downforce from banned blown diffusers. Alonso is a great suprise, he adapted and it's paying off for him. I've always wondered how Senna would do in today's cars. My guess is he would still be great whatever he drives.
Driver61's video on Alonso's driving style complements this well, he's got one of the most aggressive driving styles in recent history, which contrasts with his mostly fair racing ironically
Raikkonen is just a freak of nature. I finally understand this guys talent. He needs a car that has literally no under steer, to get it to the apex unhindered, and then relies on his reactions to catch and re catch an errant rear end. No wonder he hates this current era of understeering heavy, annoyingly slow cars with concrete tyres - harder to rotate the car and make it bite. The complete OPPOSITE of Fernando Alonso. Amazing!
You are probably spot on, Karting and (even though I never heard of him do Rally) Rally style. I don't agree with Brundle about Schumacher though... when he did drive like shown by Brundle he's car was not setup right for him. Schumacher did do a Jenson style driving but actually left of throttle and pushed throttle slowly around the corners while a lot of other F1 drivers just released the throttle and pushed hard when leaving the corner.. and that is why he was a king when wet and did really good overall...
@TheEqualTester ok I think I remember what I meant and I put it quite badly. Kimi likes a good front end on his car. However current cars Have a lot of torque and probably too little rear downforce. Also being heavy theyre very snappy on the rear end. A larger rear wing would give him more rear grip out of the corners. But again I'm contradicting myself because the Ferrari he drives is front limited and suffers more from understeer. Maybe that's the problem for him.
It's funny I used to prefer my setup similar to Schumacher but a couple years later I have been more similar to fernando. I actually like the car to understeer a bit coming off the apex, and use the throttle to increase the car to slight oversteer while excelleratinf away from the apex. I found I get better launch out of corners this way, as opposed to the way Schumacher does it
@david40686 I think he meant that they like to get on the power early before they are fully out of the corner, letting the back end step out to help them get the car pointing in the right direction. A smooth driver like Jenson will not "floor the throttle", they will gradually ease the power on to get a smooth and tidy exit from the corner.
After watching this in F1 games I’m more like Schumacher and Kimi. Alonso’s is quite impressive considering he’s less tidy but does not lose the car it’s incredible. Button is impressive to because he’s so smooth at 200 MPH. Michael and Kimi are also incredible because they’ve got more oversteer and work to do but handle the cars beautifully. Man these F1 drivers are something.
First debut was at Spa-Francorchamps driving for the Jordan team although he set a good qualifying but ended shortly in the race after 700 m with a blown clutch, a year later he had his revenge and won his first grand prix at Spa-Francorchamps in a Benetton-Ford.
yeh I've various things for almost 20 years now (and I'm not even 27 lol). I did ten days testing recently out in India for a new series called MRF. The tracks out there are so incredibly bumpy and have very little grip. The tyres also have very stiff sidewalls so it makes them incredibly difficult to drive fast as the tyres give you no warning. The only way to get round it is to brake all the way into practically every corner, totally different to the fast sweeping bends of the UK!
Hamilton is very smooth with the car like button, vettel is aggressive with the car but not as much as Alonso but for verstappen and ricciardo I don’t know
Gee Gee Maldonado is a bit like Alonso in his driving, except he doesn't seem to know when to tone down the aggression, so he tended to bin it an awful lot.
Very interesting comment. I also think Raikkonen's style has changed now with his rallying experience. He's not as smooth with the wheel as he used to be in the McLaren days. I wish we could see more of the drivers' movements behind the wheel.
It was only a matter of time, both Raikkonen Button was marked as future world champions and super natural talent when they came in to F1 in 2001 and 2000
hm... funny how literally the next video on auto-play describes Schumachers style quite a bit different, however only for a specific corner that one could not possibly approach with the style that is described here
I assume you're talking about the video from '95 when Schumacher and Herbert were teammates...? There's no contradiction at all; you're comparing a corner from 1995 and 2006; Bridge in '95 was not flat out and required driver skill, in '06, it most certainly was flat out. Brundle also says (voicing over exactly as Alonso goes through Bridge in this video) "in high speed corners, the downforce and grip is so good, that the driver inputs will be similar for all". Basically the two aren't comparable.
On games I usually drive more like alonso because its more intersesting and challenging to brake as late as possible, take really agressive lines and spend the whole of long corners trying to edge it to the point where you can just slam the gas, I'd say its a kind of impatient driving style and quite often results in me missing the apex, losing the back from hitting the gas too early, stuff like that. On games it is more fun but I can not believe that he gets so much speed driving like that IRL
Yes, which is exactly what Brundle says in the video "in high speed corners the downforce and grip, is so good that the driver input will be similar for all"
You don't need to be in F1 to have a driving style that is similar to F1 drivers, you can understeer like Alonso with any car, overtsteer on exits like Schumacher with any RWD car and so on. After all, F1 cars have 4 wheels and an engine like the rest.
Very cool, i use Schu and Raikkonens style in racing games! Try the Mclaren F1 LM in PGR 4, its exactly how they have their car set up! Jenson Button for WDC 2011
yeh this is true, the old kent engined cars are rather lacking in the power department... You're right actually, I even drive slightly differently from circuit to circuit depending on the level of grip, corner radius, how bumpy a corner is etc... although for single seaters the same basic principle normally applies. But in hindsight that guy seems to have a very simplistic view on driving a car ;)
but this video clearly states that michael liked a car that was oversteery on the brakes, so the opposite of a car that's planted at the rear and gives you understeer.
In a simulator game like Assetto Corsa. I'm naturally in a Schumacher/Raikkonen style. Then I tried to adapt in Alonso's style. It's way harder than I thought.
Alonso's driving style was only like that in 2005 and 2006 because the way the car and tires were set up, he has said it was very difficult to adapt to that style of driving because of how wrong it felt. That is a terrible way to drive unless you have a specific car setup and specific tires.
Vettel and Webber have a great driving style, but can someone tell me what is my driving style regarding my Melbourne lap available in low quality (but clear) on TH-cam ?
raikkonen has changed hes style from this too. hes now driving like how i think senna was driving. it seemed that senna drove on the limit of grip, and sort of feeling the girp as if he was trying to see if there was any more of it(lots of steering wheel movement). their throttle controll style however is vastly different. senna was mostly on/off, raikkonen seems to stick hes throttle and not really back down from it. while raikkonen may not drive as well as senna, they both have similar syles.
dude i swear theres 2 nascar fans that dislike every obscure f1 video! This is the 2nd f1 clip i find 2day with hundrets of likes, that has 2 dislikes. on both ocassions i couldnt find any faults to them.
Brundel giving live commentary while driving that monster in the rain, what a legend.
It is, but because the track is wet, it is also useless because driving in the wet is completely different to driving on a warm dry race track.
Mate, thats a Red Bull, not a Monster
@@ReedReed999 Bad Dum Tsk.
@@C42ST3N yes but he isnt driving anywhere near the limit and so the effects of the rain wont make a difference
Those cars had TC and less initial torque. They are not nearly as snappy as the modern cars are in the rain
Alonso has one of the most unique driving styles. The way that he purposely generates understeer to aid him in cornering is something that not many people do.
He knew that he needed to extract every bit of potential that the Renault car (R25 and R26 in particular) had with the unique characteristic of rear-biased weight distribution (almost 40/60). So while the front is more loose than the rear, he forced the tire wall to bounce around by intentionally under-steering the car and hit the apex early, because he knows that the rear is planted really well that he only needs to worry about the front side, which also aided by "tuned mass damper" that he perfected the technique and won both championship in '05 and '06.
Alonso is truly the greatest driver of all time (in terms of pure talent and pace)
@@imissvine6737 tf 😂😂😂😂
@@oscardom__ He is
Wtf are you smoking 🤣🤣🤣
@@imissvine6737 He is not the best qualifier. He’s ok on Saturdays but great on Sundays. The whole Alonso worship is bizarre.
After this video it is easy to understand how Raikkonen managed to win his first race for Ferrari. It was Schumacher`s car last years, and they had similar driving style, making it relatively easy to adopt to his style. And that is why he struggled so horribly when Alonso was his team mate. Ferrari always has been clear that they are team and work towards what is best as team, often supporting 1 driver at cost of another. I fully approve of that, but it did mean that car was built to fit Alonso, making it horrible for Kimi.
Exactly the same thing happened with Lewis Hamilton the same year. He declared recently that when he started in 2007 in the McLaren he was given Kimi's suspension and settings and he loved it cause they have very similar styles and that partially explains why Hamilton was so strong from the beginning.
Kimi Minkionen ye and the guy had very frightening pace for a rookie equally with a championship worthy car underneath him
Fascinating thanks, it's fitting as he said he used to play as kimi when he played the game as a teenager
Honestly man, it's more because Ferrari had such a car advantage in Melbourne. Kimi hated the 2007 and 2008 cars (especially over one lap, in the races it was better). Near the end of 2007 they made some steps forward in the setup, but in 2008 it was difficult again. They had too much understeer and crucially the Bridgestone tyres were VERY different from the Michelins he had used at McLaren.
@@ciaronsmith4995 That is possibly true as well, though i don't think it negates my point.
Can't imagine the crew's reaction to it raining on their day of shooting for this video. Lucky for them they had Brundle who is just a top notch professional all around, bet he didn't even bat an eye.
And of course Brundle repeats each at full pace in the rain.
Anthony Dykes What do you expect? He's a Formula 1 driver. And a class act.
Now he's a top communicator, and a brilliant commentator.
@@RB747domme Nah he is way to biased
@@EAGYSL Murray Walker was massively biased towards Damon Hill, but I dont see you complaining against him
@@benl1799 because this comment chain isn't about Murray...
@@RB747domme the thing that really amazes me is that not only is he driving an F1 car (which is, well, expected of an F1 driver but not necessarily easy) and commentating, but he's also driving it in different styles that don't necessarily come naturally to him. He's a super sharp driver to do that, whew.
Using the rear to get around a turn is arguably the fastest way to do it. Like Raikkonen and Schumacher does it. But it demands incredible car feel and reflexes. Perhaps that is why Schumacher is struggling a bit now. Because of his age that little extra edge got lost down the line. Just a guess.
Desdirodeabike Schumacher was struggling because the Mercedes was very understeary
Tyre management
Or D. All of the above
you guess is absolutely spot on, as confirmed by guys in mercedes. Raikkonen however doesnt drive like that. He needs a planted rear.
reading this in 2022 almost thought mick is using his dad's setup
Need an update showing Lewis, Seb, Max, Danny Ric, etc.
Seb is just like Button while Max, Lewis and Leclerc all drive like Schumacher and Raikkonen and Ricciardo is similar to Alonso but slightly different. He makes the car slide a little more on exit in order to build greater momentum.
Martin: Kvyat likes to slow the car by dissipating his cars energy in to the sidepod of another car.
@@blackflagqwerty lol!
@@colejones6312 I thought Lewis liked a car that is more rear heavy?
Seb is more known to prefer cars that are heavily planted on the rear and often likes to get on the gas early when exiting which somehow explains on some of his spins given how powerful the current hybrid V6 are
thats why i love alonso, so damn aggresive
Excited for this season?
@@SIXITHS man honestly i havent watcfhed in a couple years, it just got to be the same story every year lol
@@gulinotm last race was pretty good, this season seems to be a good one
@@gulinotm trust me 2021 is a season worth to witness
Interesting driver choice.
2 current champions- Schumi and Alonso
And 2 future champions- Kimi and Button
It was more because Alonso, Schumi and Kimi were the 3 best drivers in F1 and Jenson was British.
@@ciaronsmith4995 they litterally fucking said why they picked jenson its not because he's british its because he uses the textbook driving style A.K.A the racing line in the f1 games
@@imissvine6737 Yes the british tend to do that. Justify shady things in a nice way.
@@ciaronsmith4995 nah mane button at that time was already a racewinner and was a prominent name in f1 as one of the best in the sport and also correlation is not causation back in the grooved tires pretty much noone else who is actually fast and in contention used the same style textbook style of Jenson alonso had different steering kimi and schumi used the rear of the car to get around corners
@@imissvine6737 No he wasn't. The big 3 were Kimi, Fernando and Michael. By far. He won a single race and was lucky to win that race. He wasn't considered elite at all. If you actually watched F1 back then you would know that, but you're clearly a relatively new fan or didn't watch live, in the tyre war. Cheers.
Martin Brundle just casually controlling every racing style is something else... underrated af
Very good video. What a team would had Räikkönen and Schumi made.
one with schumacher winning half or the races and raikkonen having to help out as number 2
schumacher, until his first retirement, made sure to have the entire team centered around him and that noone within the team could be a danger to him
there is a reason why raikkonen came to ferrari after schumacher had stopped driving for them, and why montoya was not considered and alonso not until multiple years later
AnarchistMetalhead You might be right (or a troll), but I meant more like car development wise.
taveeeee ferrari already had brilliant engineers like brawn and an experienced number 2 driver giving feedback as well, so i"d guess there would not have been a development advantage with raikkonen instead of barichello
but it could have been an advantage compared to choosing massa
AnarchistMetalhead Yes it't true and Kimi wouldn't had agreed to be number 2 in the team. It was all built around Schumacher and the other driver was basically driving for max second place. But what I meant in the first place was that with Kimi+Schumi they didn't have (but they wouldn't had needed to since we can assume here that Schumi was all that mattered) to develop two different cars as they pretty much had to do (but they can't) now sice Alonso and Räikkönen prefer so different cars. PS. My head hurts for my grammar errors.
Ben Dover hey Kenneth
1:14 dammn brundle, drifting it out of the garage like a boss
And putting his visor down as well
Freaking legend
I mean he was a f1 driver once. Hes damn skilfull
Extremely interesting choice of drivers.
Two of the chosen drivers were already champions (Alonso and Schumacher) and two of them became champions later (Button and Raikkonen).
Now explain Montoya's and Maldonado's driving style.
They drive like shit? Is that enough for you?
azynkron please don't compare the worst f1 driver ever to Montoya :) JPM was agressive but very talented. Maldonado should be banned for life, it's maybe 2 years or more he didn't have a single CLEAN race
Dimas Wira JPM was good.
Ciaron Smith ..but not consistent enough....like sato now that i think of it...
JPM fought for a world title in 2003......way better than Sato in that regard. In a Williams he was one of the fastest and most consistent. from 2001-2004 he was extremely good. Made mistakes but we all do.
Brundle: And Lance Stroll likes to evaluate the durability of the tyre walls at relatively low speeds in order to benefit from the turbulence caused by the waving of red flags
Button: smooth and precise through the corners
Alonso: fuck it! I'll break the steering wheel off for maximum speed
I envy you :)
I was a Prost fan myself due to his calculated and non-risk taking way of driving (as he himself once stated "I try to win by driving the slowest as possible"), but I did respect Senna for his sheer speed and his gift to drive fast. It was like he was the exact opposite of Prost :)
"im going to imitate jenson's smooth style" *1:14 comes out with opposite lock*
There are 3 driving styles here: what I call the Prost style (likes understeer, as few hand movements as possible; Button and currently Vettel are like that); the Senna style (very aggressive, throws car into the corner, moves the car around; Alonso and Hamilton are both like that); and then the Schumacher style (very pointy front end and loose back end, likes the back end to steer the car; micro-corrections through fast corners, you can keep the car at 100 percent grip for longer through fast corners; Raikonnen is also like that)
good analogy, i think Max Verstappen falls into the Schumacher style aswell, since its told thats not just how he races in F1, but also how he sets his car up in sims. But in which of these 3 does leclerc fall?
@@obesekid6947 same as max i would say, strong front end
prost drove with oversteer, one can be very smooth and still drive without understeer
neutral setups: button, russell, rosberg
understeer: prost, alonso, senna, hamilton
oversteer: kimi, msc, verstappen, leclerc
I think this is the main reason for Kimi's problems this year. Alonso and Räikkönen have drastically different driving styles and this year's car just won't cooperate with Räikkönen. He has said himself that he needs something specific with the car and that ain't just happening right now.
It's the same with Vettel
Turrican4D Yeah, and that's why Kimi also isn't a very good driver in an F1 Car. It looks totally different in a WRC-Car...
NFreund Kimi is the fastest. Unfortunately his operating window is smaller with these cars.
+Ciaron Smith also remember the tyres and aero are completely different since 2009. all the drivers have changed their styles since Martin did this video
Kimi is overrated. I think a great driver needs to learn to adapt.
12 years from now , and all the drivers are retiring...
kimi is still around which is the only thing that matters atm.
Well yeah, as with any other sport your only good for a few years, then your out.
Especially nowadays, given the cars are so much faster in the corners, nowadays.
Just Minus 1 and There will be still a lot of driver here.
Alonso is coming back, and Kimi is still here, but yeah the majority of veterans have retired...
I wonder how Senna's driving style would have evolved/adapted if he still raced in the 2000s
Stop this Senna overhype
@@sarang99monu How exactly am I overhyping?
It’s funny how loud he’s shouting while driving around, shows you how much work these things involve
Raikkonen and Schumacher style are the most spectacular.
What a golden video i’ve found here. Would be cool to have more of these insights
I wish we could all take a few laps in an f1 car just to see what all the fuss is about.
Nigel Mansell Well for you Sir Nigel it is.
You have to left foot brake, notice it's not possible for Martin to get his right foot across to the brake pedal.
@@le-coup-détat What I mean is that the car he's driving here has a metal side-guard on the brake pedal preventing his left foot from moving sideways, also of course blocking the access to the brake pedal for his right foot.
Assuming people's usual car is 100 hp 1500 kg, F1 cars have 10 times that engine and 2/3 times less of a car (weight)
Let me tell you my favourate styles
5. Fucking up the corner
4. Angle albon (hitting almost every barrier around monaco)
3. The verstappen ( max max super max max divebomb)
2. The checo ooooooooo (how the fucc is that car so thicc)
1. The mick shumacher system operator (penetrating the barrier at almost every track)
button and damon hill fangio, and senna, wurz all drove perfectly smoothly to the ideal line. schumacher, coulthard, hamilton, raikkonen turn in on the brakes.. hakkinen, pryce, (Gilles) villeneuve, (keke) rosberg, petersen, frentzen, herbert, montoya, alonso, turn in on the throttle and 'drift' the car.
Not to forget Jim Clark, the master of smooth driving.
Wow, at 3m52s when they cut away the cockpit and you can see right down the drivers legs as he screams around is spectacular and not something I’ve ever seen done before, brilliant work folks, thank you, simple, elegant, exceptional, thank you 😎👍
Tyres that didn't fade, and the R25 and R26 which both loved to get roughed about and ragged to death, were perfect combos for Nando to win 2 world titles
Except for when Alonso had some sort of electronics glitch in Malaysia 2010. He was rev-matching on the downshifts! In a Formula 1 car!
Awesome!
excellent video, thank you for posting
Yea this is back in 2006, when they could just slam the throttle and not lose traction
Mmmm yes, traction control
And everyone had a good start because launch control
You could do that with TC, yes. But thats also was not fast. Not at all. Back in these days you did not loose traction. But still you could not just go full throttle and let traction control do everything. Thats slow. You need a some wheel spin to accelerate best. So a driver could still make a huge difference how he used and set-up TC and the good ones prefered less TC.
So what I learnt is that Jenson Button has the same driving style as Charles Leclerc.
Fernando Alonso has the similar driving style to Max Verstappen.
@FranklinMarshalSpain His style we saw in the old generation Renaults came about because of their huge rear weight bias and how the car was built around the tyres. He employed his massively aggressive style back then because that was the fastest way (at least for him) to drive the car. He doesn't drive that way anymore because the cars are no longer designed that way, as well as (correct me if I'm wrong here) weight bias having been standardised by the FIA.
Alonso with the blue Renault is my favorite style. Just gotta love how throws the car into the corners.
thanks been looking for this
Whoever was responsible for the music, is certainly a huge Wipeout fan!
Not that im complaining!
This is was an amazing short, they need to do more of this kind of stuff on the preview shows.
I would love another one of these for the current cars 😂 brundle behind the wheel as well
That "x-ray" camera showing his pedal work fuckin' awesome!
Thanks, you gave a very nice and detailed explanation and I agree with you in everything you said. Cheers
Great video, I'd also would like to see mr.Brundle explain Prost's and Senna's driving styles
watching this in 2020 i wish we had a camera angle like in this where u can see the pedal work
I like how they're all current F1 drivers who have won world championships. Their styles have all worked for them.
People critisized ITV's coverage of F1 for the adverts but no other broadcaster has given us such fascinating insights.
Mmmmm, lovely insight ❤️❤️❤️
Awesome video!! Interesting how a given year on a particular set of regulations favors a certain type of driving style. This year seems to favor Button's style over Hamilton's because of Pirelli's quick tire wear. Schumacher's style is favored now probably because of less downforce from banned blown diffusers. Alonso is a great suprise, he adapted and it's paying off for him. I've always wondered how Senna would do in today's cars. My guess is he would still be great whatever he drives.
It is strange how driving styles can differ between drivers. It helps me understand why I’m slow in certain cars and fast in others on the sim.
Martín Brundle imitating different driving styles while commenting ir in the rain
And we struggle tonput a decent lap un our simrig
Driver61's video on Alonso's driving style complements this well, he's got one of the most aggressive driving styles in recent history, which contrasts with his mostly fair racing ironically
Alonso adapted to that style because that was needed for those Michelins, hes a very smooth driver and has proved to have talent to adapt
Sad part about UK car shows is the best episodes are spoiled by the rain.
Would be interesting to see such an video with the driving styles of Vettel and Hamilton, too.
Raikkonen is just a freak of nature. I finally understand this guys talent. He needs a car that has literally no under steer, to get it to the apex unhindered, and then relies on his reactions to catch and re catch an errant rear end. No wonder he hates this current era of understeering heavy, annoyingly slow cars with concrete tyres - harder to rotate the car and make it bite. The complete OPPOSITE of Fernando Alonso. Amazing!
Raikkonen actually prefers oversteer to understeer. I think he just misses the downforce of the old rear wings
You are probably spot on, Karting and (even though I never heard of him do Rally) Rally style. I don't agree with Brundle about Schumacher though... when he did drive like shown by Brundle he's car was not setup right for him. Schumacher did do a Jenson style driving but actually left of throttle and pushed throttle slowly around the corners while a lot of other F1 drivers just released the throttle and pushed hard when leaving the corner.. and that is why he was a king when wet and did really good overall...
It is a bit frustrating to watch him driving even a good ferrari nowadays
@TheEqualTester you're right, I can't remember what I meant. Must have been having a moment 😊
@TheEqualTester ok I think I remember what I meant and I put it quite badly. Kimi likes a good front end on his car. However current cars Have a lot of torque and probably too little rear downforce. Also being heavy theyre very snappy on the rear end. A larger rear wing would give him more rear grip out of the corners. But again I'm contradicting myself because the Ferrari he drives is front limited and suffers more from understeer. Maybe that's the problem for him.
Great stuff!
0:13-the dude was wearing a shirt! 1950s F1 drivers had balls!
It's funny I used to prefer my setup similar to Schumacher but a couple years later I have been more similar to fernando. I actually like the car to understeer a bit coming off the apex, and use the throttle to increase the car to slight oversteer while excelleratinf away from the apex. I found I get better launch out of corners this way, as opposed to the way Schumacher does it
I look forward to rooting for COL in future years :)
The more aggressive drivers, the better
Martin could do again this video, by including Hamilton and Kubica; and comparing old styles as Clark, Fangio, Senna, Prost, Stewart or Villeneuve
@david40686 I think he meant that they like to get on the power early before they are fully out of the corner, letting the back end step out to help them get the car pointing in the right direction. A smooth driver like Jenson will not "floor the throttle", they will gradually ease the power on to get a smooth and tidy exit from the corner.
Alonso's driving style with that big sharp turn was weird to watch but got good traction
After watching this in F1 games I’m more like Schumacher and Kimi. Alonso’s is quite impressive considering he’s less tidy but does not lose the car it’s incredible. Button is impressive to because he’s so smooth at 200 MPH. Michael and Kimi are also incredible because they’ve got more oversteer and work to do but handle the cars beautifully. Man these F1 drivers are something.
F1 games 😂😂
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First debut was at Spa-Francorchamps driving for the Jordan team although he set a good qualifying but ended shortly in the race after 700 m with a blown clutch, a year later he had his revenge and won his first grand prix at Spa-Francorchamps in a Benetton-Ford.
2006 alonso drives it like a rental kart.
yeh I've various things for almost 20 years now (and I'm not even 27 lol). I did ten days testing recently out in India for a new series called MRF. The tracks out there are so incredibly bumpy and have very little grip. The tyres also have very stiff sidewalls so it makes them incredibly difficult to drive fast as the tyres give you no warning. The only way to get round it is to brake all the way into practically every corner, totally different to the fast sweeping bends of the UK!
and now we have visor cams, so we get a closer insight than in all of f1 history
Gotta love it when half the video is the intro lmao
nice one,thx
How do Hamilton, Vettel, Max Verstappen and Riccardio drive?
I would love to see that.
Vettel at least nowadays has a more Button kind of style as i see,when he was the champion,he sort-of had a different approach
I would say Verstappen is more like Alonso.. Likes to have an aggressive approach to the turns and turns a lot earlier.
Hamilton is very smooth with the car like button, vettel is aggressive with the car but not as much as Alonso but for verstappen and ricciardo I don’t know
Gee Gee Maldonado is a bit like Alonso in his driving, except he doesn't seem to know when to tone down the aggression, so he tended to bin it an awful lot.
Very interesting comment. I also think Raikkonen's style has changed now with his rallying experience. He's not as smooth with the wheel as he used to be in the McLaren days. I wish we could see more of the drivers' movements behind the wheel.
Schumacher didn't race with a turbo car. Turbos were banned in 1989 and Schumacher started in F1 in 1992.
It was only a matter of time, both Raikkonen Button was marked as future world champions and super natural talent when they came in to F1 in 2001 and 2000
They need to incorporate that “ghost” nose that shows the foot cam in the broadcasts. Thats cool!!
Nice explain for a great driver
Just realized how great the track and what part they used to test thus
It seems I may have a similar driving style to Schumacher and Räikkönen. I very much like the car to have a snappy front end
that guy actually has a very good idea... I would love to see that.
So cool
hm... funny how literally the next video on auto-play describes Schumachers style quite a bit different, however only for a specific corner that one could not possibly approach with the style that is described here
I assume you're talking about the video from '95 when Schumacher and Herbert were teammates...? There's no contradiction at all; you're comparing a corner from 1995 and 2006; Bridge in '95 was not flat out and required driver skill, in '06, it most certainly was flat out. Brundle also says (voicing over exactly as Alonso goes through Bridge in this video) "in high speed corners, the downforce and grip is so good, that the driver inputs will be similar for all".
Basically the two aren't comparable.
On games I usually drive more like alonso because its more intersesting and challenging to brake as late as possible, take really agressive lines and spend the whole of long corners trying to edge it to the point where you can just slam the gas, I'd say its a kind of impatient driving style and quite often results in me missing the apex, losing the back from hitting the gas too early, stuff like that. On games it is more fun but I can not believe that he gets so much speed driving like that IRL
well Schumacher's style is the most effective but the most dangerous
1:14 one hand driving and sliding epic
This is very true. In fact, I would go all out in saying he would not be able to keep up even when he was at his best in today's cars.
that's for slower/mid speed corners, on high speed high downforce everyone try to take the ideal line
Yes, which is exactly what Brundle says in the video "in high speed corners the downforce and grip, is so good that the driver input will be similar for all"
The music is so 2006!
Second time I’ve seen someone explain what Alonso does. Seems insane to me
You don't need to be in F1 to have a driving style that is similar to F1 drivers, you can understeer like Alonso with any car, overtsteer on exits like Schumacher with any RWD car and so on. After all, F1 cars have 4 wheels and an engine like the rest.
i still have a lot to learn if one day i want to be a racing driver..
i miss u mb
Very cool, i use Schu and Raikkonens style in racing games! Try the Mclaren F1 LM in PGR 4, its exactly how they have their car set up!
Jenson Button for WDC 2011
Since when does locking up the front brakes help turning?
yeh this is true, the old kent engined cars are rather lacking in the power department... You're right actually, I even drive slightly differently from circuit to circuit depending on the level of grip, corner radius, how bumpy a corner is etc... although for single seaters the same basic principle normally applies. But in hindsight that guy seems to have a very simplistic view on driving a car ;)
I have a similar style to Michael Schumacher but I prefer the car to understeer so I keep traction at rear but can spin them up if I need to.
but this video clearly states that michael liked a car that was oversteery on the brakes, so the opposite of a car that's planted at the rear and gives you understeer.
In a simulator game like Assetto Corsa. I'm naturally in a Schumacher/Raikkonen style. Then I tried to adapt in Alonso's style. It's way harder than I thought.
Alonso's driving style was only like that in 2005 and 2006 because the way the car and tires were set up, he has said it was very difficult to adapt to that style of driving because of how wrong it felt. That is a terrible way to drive unless you have a specific car setup and specific tires.
Vettel and Webber have a great driving style, but can someone tell me what is my driving style regarding my Melbourne lap available in low quality (but clear) on TH-cam ?
raikkonen has changed hes style from this too. hes now driving like how i think senna was driving. it seemed that senna drove on the limit of grip, and sort of feeling the girp as if he was trying to see if there was any more of it(lots of steering wheel movement). their throttle controll style however is vastly different. senna was mostly on/off, raikkonen seems to stick hes throttle and not really back down from it. while raikkonen may not drive as well as senna, they both have similar syles.
dude i swear theres 2 nascar fans that dislike every obscure f1 video! This is the 2nd f1 clip i find 2day with hundrets of likes, that has 2 dislikes. on both ocassions i couldnt find any faults to them.
2:11....When other drivers warm up the tire and brake, Alonso is warming up the chassis and suspension...
God would I love a pedal cam.
how in the world did they do that x-ray footage of his legs
A camera mounted in the footwell and then just overlayed it in post.