FYI, you can assign the heated grip function to one of the "quick presets" so it's only a one button click to access the function (same system on my 2017 1290 Super Adventure) Great unbiased real world review as always. Keep up the good work.
So I started to watch this blog, wet roads a powerful bike and the anxiety set in, when would the inevitable happen, becoming more anxious as Mr TMF becomes more confident with the bike, anxiety levels raising all the time and then . . . . It wasn't a white van but a yellow one, what a treat for us all :-) Great review as always!
I've owned this new GT model since 1st March. The front seems to get mixed reactions but when i'm riding I don't see it, but I love the quirky looks and you certainly know it's a KTM but that face isn't just pretty. Those eyes pierce through the blackest nights of Oxfordshire with enough lumins to turn darkness into daylight. It's a pity you had a wet day, sports ride mode and comfort setting make this bike the sweetest handling bike I've owned, simple to ride, fast, comfortable and safe. The GT couldn't care less what gear you're in through a bend, tip in and wind the throttle open and it will you pop out the other end. I had an S1000RR before this, the GT is much more fun, less serious about itself, much easier to ride and is a truly happy bike. Do you need 175 bhp and 144 Nm, yes, yes you do. What don't I like about the GT, erm...
We have very bad roads here in Belgium. So comfort and a good suspension is important to me. Currently doubting between the Super Duke GT and the Super Adventure S, as the latter has a longer front suspension I think it might be better for road with lots of potholes. If you're on the Super Duke GT, is the dampening sufficient for long trips? No soar back with a bit more leaning forwards then the Super Adventure S? Just wondering what your experiences are and what you would advice. I definitely love the looks of the GT better. I assume a pillion has the same comfort on both.
I've seen this bike in the same white&orange colour on my latest weekend spin. It looks much much better than the original model which already looks dated in my opinion. KTM did a great job with update for this new model. I love it and it stands out and looks like nothing else on the road, you either like it or hate it
It can be a faff, selecting adjustments in the menu, Mr Flyer, but you can designate things to two quick select buttons. My quick select 1 is for my heated grips, 2 is for ride mode. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I really love the KTM looks. Thanks for another great clip. PS mine’s a 1290 SAR🖖
At 1:00, is that Swindon's Magic Roundabout? I was there once some years ago. Had been in England for a few months, and boy, was I surprised when I saw the vertical road signs announcing the roundabout. Quite daunting. But was able to navigate it without trouble. You seem to be used to it, no hesitations there.
Great review, Rode a 2017 one to Alaska and back, bit over 10,000 km. Worked nicely. The seat is hard but had less butt pain after 600 km than on a BMW R1200RT. Had some warranty issues. KTM did well by me on those. From time to time I think of selling it. Then I start the engine and those thoughts vanish.
Hey TMF, I know you get asked to test ride bikes all the time. But, you may want to consider the new Hypermotard 950 and the new Multistrada 950s. Went for a test ride on the stock Hypermotard 950, really nice, great fun. Very much a Sunday morning machine for back roads.
Great review as always ! Keep them coming and look forward to them.. One thing I noticed on almost every KTM review ( no matter who reviews them )is that the motor performance (which is incredible) overshadows everything else on the bike and it takes a long term review to actually give a more accurate assessment. Hope to see one soon on this model. Thanks.
Great review! As far as looks go, the view from the cockpit is great, and that is the one you see 90% of the time as the rider. I would really like to hear this big beast trundling around a car park like you have been doing with Triumphs lately. Guess I will have to do that on my own unless you get a chance at a longer term review. Thanks TMF. Peace!
I'm right with you on the looks of the beast. It looks like a kid's toy. Looks are not usually that important to me but I simply cannot imagine having to face that in my garage every morning.
I always watch till the end, Flyer. I know it helps out some! Great video of the new GT. I'm with you on the looks. Sometimes I like it sometimes I don't. It's a bit weird. Cheers!
Sat here in Sydney in what is apparently Autumn (32 degrees in the shade today), taking a look at the KTM and you decide to ride my old commute from HH towards the Dunstable Downs. Ruined with cameras, probably my fault as I loved opening the bike up a little too much every morning and every night :o The weather and the greyness was something to behold, could I ever move back!!??
I was glad to be able to see the speed on the TFT screen. It always looks like you are going about 20 MPH faster than is actually the case. Now I can relax !
I would still go for the super duke r over the GT version. Sure the GT would be better for two up and offers a bit more protection from the weather but fit a small / tour screen to the SD r and throw on some soft luggage and you have a cracking naked tourer as well as all the other things it does brilliantly.
Great review as ever Mr Flyer. I think you must have been out the day my Mod2 was cancelled due to heavy rain 😕 I’d be interested to know how the KTM compares to the Multistrada 1250 - not that either will be my first bike!
@TMF Always remember "EUBikeDudes law": The amount of crappy weather is directly proportional to the performance of the bike you are trying to ride, i.e. the more you want/can push the bike, the worse the weather will be! You REALLY must get one of the KTM dealers to let you try a PP Ergo seat, which, as I've mentioned should come standard. Ideally try a heated one. :) Hyperbole aside, it's more like 100 times/second at best for the semi-active adjustments. Also you can put heat or whatever on the quick access (up and down when you are not in a menu) buttons. Heat for winter, modes for summer. They should add a single button to cycle through the heat though - well two, one for the seat as well. Speaking of windscreens, I finally got the touring PP screen for the 790, the bike is transformed, slips through the air much more easily and all the bufferting goes over the head. Maybe do a 790 follow-up one with the screen fitted, the best PP for the bike IMO - way better value than e.g. an end can. ;)
A better seat,taller more upright riding position and shaft drive would steal so many potential GS re-buyers. As it is it seems to promise long distance potential to former sport bike owners who love the high HP figures but i imagine will fall short of GS/VStrom ability in this area.
What would say are the real differences ? i have read complaints the previous model had poor fuelling at low revs and the suspension wasn't the best. Some bargains to be had on the last of the old models right now, so torn as what to do.
I've got a 2017 model with the heated seats they are great. Wish the new tft screen had a proper nav not just turn by turn. Booked to try one out this weekend
I did a review on this as well and posted it on my channel. Just loved the fun factor of this bike!! That V-Twin is just awesome!! I could certainly trade up for one of these!!
Another great real world review, mate. I rode a super duke r today and didn't like it much - too different to my XR and GS. But, this I do like... Tell me, would you replace your GS with one?
You mentioned that you couldn't really find anything bad to say about the Super Duke (apart from looks only a mother could love and a fiddly menu that might take your eyes off the road) but how about no centre stand? Like your pet hate of missing fuel gauges, this is surely a must for a 230 kg bike where you want to make say regular chain lubrication as straightforward as possible.
Right. Great review as always TMF - I appreciate your attention to detail in reviewing bikes plus I really enjoy your accent : ). I own a 1290 SA - the original 2015 big adv. bike, and i'm looking to choose between a 2019 1290 SAS or this - the 2019 1290 GT. I'm used to KTM styling and quirkiness so looks are not an issue for me, on the contrary I see them as a differentiator. Since you have tested both - I followed the SAS long term review you did a while back - I have a few questions and would appreciate your input: how do you feel they compare in terms of comfort - riding position ( ergo triangle - seat, pegs, bars ), soaking up bumps - I know the SAS is capable overall but maybe a bit long legged vs the GT that I know it used to be harsh before but I understand it has newer software for the suspension, and which one would you choose if you had to do a lot of filtering in town traffic - stability, flickabilty, mirrors height vs cars mirrors. At the end of the day if it were you money - and BMW stopped making the GS :) - which one would you choose as your daily do it all - the SAS or the GT ? Thank you in advance. cheers
If I view it as adventure-tourer I say it’s actually one of the best and most aggressive looking bike in that category. I wouldn’t call BMW R/GS, super tenere, ect. any prettier.
Or could you do a video of your camera setup pls, I’m off to do the Scottish757 and would like to Record it? I have not done anything like that before, thanks
Nice bike with oodles of power but those tft screens and ever increasing menus are just too distracting on a bike. It just looks like a sports / naked bike with a screen so i wouldnt be doing any serious touring on this which brings me straight back to the R...
TMF, you said two years ago that You would have a Tracer GT instead of the Super Duke GT as your tourer. Do you still maintain that or this bike has changed your opinion.
@@TheMissendenFlyer A good choice. I am now the proud owner of one and did my first bit of touring in Thailand with a pillion and full set of luggage and it was brilliant. Stable at 180kmh and can cruise all day at UK legal speeds whilst averaging 4 lites per 100km. A great bike for the price. Incidentally, its half the price of the GS in Thailand. 50%!
Brilliant review as always. Have to agree with the looks, very wasp/hornet like. Just a pity the weather wasnt a bit kinder to you and the bike. However enough grunt to easily dispatch those pesky vans! 😁
Many thanks for another excellent video. I just love your reviews. I am thinking of getting one but I am worried about the wind protection. The bike will be used mainly for touring and this sometimes involve covering 700 to 1000km in one day....based on your short review how will the bike handle it?
As always, excellent review! Just a quick question, whats your thoughts on the clutch. I test rode both the the super duke and the Gt last summer, and found that not only the clutch was heavy (in comparison to a GS for example), but also that it was difficult to find neutral. Did you have this problem with the new GT?
Definitely in the same category as the Yamaha Tracer 900 GT. As far as price goes, I think the Yamaha is cheaper but the KTM has some better components as far as forks and suspension. I love what the manufacturers are doing in the sport touring class overall.
Lovely engine, but KTM styling is an acquired taste. A shade under 17K, is pricey. While I realise bikes are relatively low volume production items, when you consider the additional complications, labour, time and amount of addition materials needed to put together a car, it does seem to be excessive. However, I would still rather have a bike, just not this one .
I know it’s all about the bike, but it would have been ok with a comment or two on the ‘magic roundabout’ 😆. It’s an attraction in it self. But a brilliant review as always 👍
Another great review...odd to see you going through Berko. The looks are still an acquired taste. Sat on a GT at KTM Hemel at the weekend. I am fairly tall, but still comfortable. Ok, so it is pricey, but if you want to get one on a PCP deal, (some people like PCP, others hate them), the APR rates charged by some KTM dealers are quite low...as in almost 50% less than the rates charged by Ducati and BMW. Alternatively, you can get them on a good HP deal. Some 2018 bikes have 0%.
I have the previous model but I’m not tempted to get the 2019, I don’t care for the looks of the front end. I’m getting mine re-mapped with the 2019 engine map at my dealer next week....for free!. I’ve had mine for 2 years and absolutely love it, puts a big smile on my face every time I ride it.
How was the wind protection on the lower extremities? Looks like that fairing might keep wind off your knees, but leave you a little exposed lower down.
I've tested this beautiful machine just a couple of days ago on a sunny island of Mallorca, Spain, and let me please share my notes with you and your fans. Supposed to be ridden on one wheel. Handles like a bicycle, incredibly agile, stupidly fast, sounds like a fuking thunder on high revs even with the stock exhaust. The bike is definitely not for a novice, unless you wanna suicide in a pure joy. Pros: THE ENGINE! This bike is just about the engine! Manageable power due to high-tech electronics. Disable traction with abs, and enjoy wheelies and rear sliding. Beautiful tft screen better than your mom’s phone, with all the possible road information you imagine. 3 level cornering lights and marvelous led headlight. Both ways quickshifter and a slipper clutch will leave a wide grin on your face. The massive V2 is a killer engine, delivering power evenly as long as you open the throttle, the reaction of the engine is instant...I mean INSTANT, pulling on any gear! Cons: quickshifter upshifts too rough, comparing to my k1300s, so I wouldn’t use it while cornering. Sometimes when thrashing the bike hell off quickshifter simply fails. Mirrors are too close to your head, meaning you will have twist your neck all the time. However, why do you need the mirrors anyway? Engine produces so much heat that it can warm up some tiny country 🇱🇻 in winter. Changing the power mode or the suspension preload is a pain in the arse. It is so deep in the menu (as well as heated grips), that will take you at least 30 seconds to switch it. The bike is extremely provocative. It doesn’t want to go slow, cos the throttle is waaaay too responsive, always kicking your ass asking for more. The faster you go, the smoother it flies. Comfort suspension I’d make softer and sport suspension harder. However, I wouldn’t exclude that semiactive suspension system intervenes and makes the suspension modes feel vague enough for your ass to see the difference. The seat has to be changed - 3 hours of non-stop riding make your ass suffer a lot. All in all this is the ultimate killer machinery for riders who prefer to be always on focus, ready to race.
One more fact that is important to note. The bike brings so much confidence that in 30 minutes of riding on the mountain twisties, I was leaning the bike till my knees, cutting the corners the way I have never done in my life on any bike I have ridden. And all that on a touring stock GT tires.
Glad you noticed 2 items that have not been " improved " on this model, the seat which for a touring model is horrible for touring and another item which you really notice if you live in Arizona is the engine heat that is produced. I have actually burned my left leg wearing jeans on hot days that involve stop and go traffic.It is rare that anyone even mentions this ! Hope the windscreen is improved also, it does not do much for someone 6'2"....thanks for the insight.
And just for info, the screen did adjust the same way. And the issue with the grips can be changed if you assign heated grips to your favourites, then it's just 1 press to get to what you wish to change. Do have to say I love the tft dash, I love the one on my adventure s
Judging by some of the comments here, i am probably on my own when i say i quite like the look of it, and i think you are right about the front end...definitely a bit waspish.
If you change the map to rain mode it softens the throttle response the keyless is great when using a tank bag and also the cruise control is on the left now another improvement over my bike i should have waited dam 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
After testing all of these bikes are you still partial to the GS ? Is there any one bike you would consider over the GS? Name your best five bikes for 10 hour travel. How about middle bikes in the 800 or 850 range? I hope you'll check out the new Moto Guzzi v85tt as well. Sorry for all the questions, but your videos are second to none!!
Another quality review and undoubtedly a great bike, but I couldn't love it, just because of the looks...just doesn't do it for me. I'd rather have a Yamaha Tracer 900gt, which is probably 90% as good, for a lot less money.
I have got a question mr flyer have you ever tested a can am spyder? I would be very interested to see what you think of them being they are so different.
TheMissendenFlyer hi would it be something you might like to try in the future. I have got one a 2011 rt auto and I would be willing to for you to try it and give your opinion unfortunately I am up near derby but if your ever this way and your able insurance wise you would be most welcome. They are different and a experienced rider like yourself it would be interesting to hear your take on the bike/trike.
Nice review as always, I do have some small negative things about the bike. I was looking at this bike, but settled for a SAS 1290 1) if your tall like me, 187cm then chances are you you will hit the tank when shifting. So that's a definitive no go. 2) the compartiments are a little bit small for a decent smartphone. (s9 Samsung) I wonder how it performs when riding two up, comfort Wise. And the black version looks way better imo ;)
Also doubting between the GT and the SAS 1290. And indeed, I think a pillion would be better of on a SAS than the GT. The SAS also has longer fairings in the front, so might even be more comfortable. Although I like the looks of the GT better. Still have to do a test drive.
FYI, you can assign the heated grip function to one of the "quick presets" so it's only a one button click to access the function (same system on my 2017 1290 Super Adventure)
Great unbiased real world review as always. Keep up the good work.
graham tuck I have heated grips and damping set on mine it’s super quick to use it
So I started to watch this blog, wet roads a powerful bike and the anxiety set in, when would the inevitable happen, becoming more anxious as Mr TMF becomes more confident with the bike, anxiety levels raising all the time and then . . . . It wasn't a white van but a yellow one, what a treat for us all :-) Great review as always!
I've owned this new GT model since 1st March. The front seems to get mixed reactions but when i'm riding I don't see it, but I love the quirky looks and you certainly know it's a KTM but that face isn't just pretty. Those eyes pierce through the blackest nights of Oxfordshire with enough lumins to turn darkness into daylight.
It's a pity you had a wet day, sports ride mode and comfort setting make this bike the sweetest handling bike I've owned, simple to ride, fast, comfortable and safe. The GT couldn't care less what gear you're in through a bend, tip in and wind the throttle open and it will you pop out the other end. I had an S1000RR before this, the GT is much more fun, less serious about itself, much easier to ride and is a truly happy bike. Do you need 175 bhp and 144 Nm, yes, yes you do. What don't I like about the GT, erm...
Great feedback Bob, thanks for that...
We have very bad roads here in Belgium. So comfort and a good suspension is important to me. Currently doubting between the Super Duke GT and the Super Adventure S, as the latter has a longer front suspension I think it might be better for road with lots of potholes. If you're on the Super Duke GT, is the dampening sufficient for long trips? No soar back with a bit more leaning forwards then the Super Adventure S? Just wondering what your experiences are and what you would advice. I definitely love the looks of the GT better. I assume a pillion has the same comfort on both.
I've seen this bike in the same white&orange colour on my latest weekend spin. It looks much much better than the original model which already looks dated in my opinion. KTM did a great job with update for this new model. I love it and it stands out and looks like nothing else on the road, you either like it or hate it
The price ..... I rode one today, back to back with the Super Adv S, I loooooooved it. I dont like the price however. Oh, what to do?
What’s it like for pillion comfort
It can be a faff, selecting adjustments in the menu, Mr Flyer, but you can designate things to two quick select buttons. My quick select 1 is for my heated grips, 2 is for ride mode. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and I really love the KTM looks. Thanks for another great clip. PS mine’s a 1290 SAR🖖
It makes more sense comparing this to the BMW S1000XR than with the GS, both price-wise and segment. Very nice review nonetheless!
Great review TMF, looking forward to borrowing one myself in May 😎😎
For a track day?
@@rumien1383 Haha maybe 😂
I usually hit the "like button" on your video's before it's actually up and running. Great Review Sir!
Top man!
I have the 2017 GT and am really jealous of that tft screen. Still the greatest bike I've ever owned.
At 1:00, is that Swindon's Magic Roundabout? I was there once some years ago. Had been in England for a few months, and boy, was I surprised when I saw the vertical road signs announcing the roundabout. Quite daunting. But was able to navigate it without trouble. You seem to be used to it, no hesitations there.
No that's Hemel Hempsted's Magic Roundabout - we have a few of them in the UK....
Great review, Rode a 2017 one to Alaska and back, bit over 10,000 km. Worked nicely. The seat is hard but had less butt pain after 600 km than on a BMW R1200RT. Had some warranty issues. KTM did well by me on those. From time to time I think of selling it. Then I start the engine and those thoughts vanish.
Nice one Ernest!
Hey TMF, I know you get asked to test ride bikes all the time. But, you may want to consider the new Hypermotard 950 and the new Multistrada 950s. Went for a test ride on the stock Hypermotard 950, really nice, great fun. Very much a Sunday morning machine for back roads.
I second that. A Hypermotard 950 review from the missenden flyer would be great!
"like a rhinoceros, ready to pounce..." Love it!
Great review as always ! Keep them coming and look forward to them.. One thing I noticed on almost every KTM review ( no matter who reviews them )is that the motor performance (which is incredible) overshadows everything else on the bike and it takes a long term review to actually give a more accurate assessment. Hope to see one soon on this model. Thanks.
Never really liked KTM until now! looks a cracking bike I like the look of it.
THE very best review! Real world observation and usage, Thanks!
As usual, great review. What's stopping me buying a KTM is the poor dealer network, the only one localish to me, does not have the best reputation.
Hi, no it’s not. Sad to hear that there is another poor dealership. This one is in East Anglia. ☹️
Great review! As far as looks go, the view from the cockpit is great, and that is the one you see 90% of the time as the rider. I would really like to hear this big beast trundling around a car park like you have been doing with Triumphs lately. Guess I will have to do that on my own unless you get a chance at a longer term review. Thanks TMF.
Peace!
...exhaust vid is in the can....stay tuned!
I'm right with you on the looks of the beast. It looks like a kid's toy. Looks are not usually that important to me but I simply cannot imagine having to face that in my garage every morning.
lol
I always watch till the end, Flyer. I know it helps out some! Great video of the new GT. I'm with you on the looks. Sometimes I like it sometimes I don't. It's a bit weird. Cheers!
Thank you for another video, Mr Flyer! You always make my day better!
You’re very kind!
Great review...your 3 reviews of the 1290 Superadventure led me to get one....as you can see! :-)
Nice one!
Sat here in Sydney in what is apparently Autumn (32 degrees in the shade today), taking a look at the KTM and you decide to ride my old commute from HH towards the Dunstable Downs. Ruined with cameras, probably my fault as I loved opening the bike up a little too much every morning and every night :o
The weather and the greyness was something to behold, could I ever move back!!??
Not today you wouldn't - dull grey and drizzling :0(
I was glad to be able to see the speed on the TFT screen. It always looks like you are going about 20 MPH faster than is actually the case. Now I can relax !
Berko, my old stomping ground where I spent my formative years. Wonder if the rising sun pub by the canal is still there. Good review btw.
Thanks for the review, TMF. I couldn't live with that physog, but each to their own. By the way, do rhinos pounce?
I don’t know - Ive never met one!
Totally agree with the menu structure regarding heated grips, but you do get used to it.
Never owned a KTM, but really like the look of the GT as a do it all bike, cracking review as always thanks TMF.
Cheers Dave!
Really like that GT.. When I'm in the market for a new bike this will most certainly be on my list. Not sure about the Orange wheels. Cheers.
I would still go for the super duke r over the GT version. Sure the GT would be better for two up and offers a bit more protection from the weather but fit a small / tour screen to the SD r and throw on some soft luggage and you have a cracking naked tourer as well as all the other things it does brilliantly.
Yes I’m with you on that - the R wins on looks for me too....
It's basically the same bike.
Great review as ever Mr Flyer. I think you must have been out the day my Mod2 was cancelled due to heavy rain 😕
I’d be interested to know how the KTM compares to the Multistrada 1250 - not that either will be my first bike!
How does it compare to the GS or even the RS? BMW's Sport Tourer. Especially on the electronic side on using the menu system vs the whiz wheel.
The whizz wheel is the best bike electronics control system I’ve yet used....the KTM system is pretty good though, better than the Triumphs....
Definitely a triumph of function over form. Thanks for the review.
Another good review. I'm with you really about the looks, it's just not for me, but I'm sure it's a great bike to live with.
Excellent review as always. They've fixed the things that made me buy the 1290 SAS instead, definitely looking at this one when I get a new bike
Cheers Colin....
@TMF Always remember "EUBikeDudes law": The amount of crappy weather is directly proportional to the performance of the bike you are trying to ride, i.e. the more you want/can push the bike, the worse the weather will be!
You REALLY must get one of the KTM dealers to let you try a PP Ergo seat, which, as I've mentioned should come standard. Ideally try a heated one. :)
Hyperbole aside, it's more like 100 times/second at best for the semi-active adjustments.
Also you can put heat or whatever on the quick access (up and down when you are not in a menu) buttons. Heat for winter, modes for summer. They should add a single button to cycle through the heat though - well two, one for the seat as well.
Speaking of windscreens, I finally got the touring PP screen for the 790, the bike is transformed, slips through the air much more easily and all the bufferting goes over the head.
Maybe do a 790 follow-up one with the screen fitted, the best PP for the bike IMO - way better value than e.g. an end can. ;)
If only they could come with a more sober styling, it would be great. But I guess it’s part of the KTM’s way...Nice review, as usual !
A better seat,taller more upright riding position and shaft drive would steal so many potential GS re-buyers. As it is it seems to promise long distance potential to former sport bike owners who love the high HP figures but i imagine will fall short of GS/VStrom ability in this area.
If you want all that just get a gs and be another one the sheep,KTM strive to be original
Hi TMF
Do you think you will be trying the ktm 790 adventure?
What would say are the real differences ? i have read complaints the previous model had poor fuelling at low revs and the suspension wasn't the best. Some bargains to be had on the last of the old models right now, so torn as what to do.
Gorgeous bike, great review
What motorcycle jacket, pants, and boots do you use ? Im using leather but thinking about changing to gortex/allweather instead.
I've got a 2017 model with the heated seats they are great. Wish the new tft screen had a proper nav not just turn by turn. Booked to try one out this weekend
Lovely bike and a great review as always, TMF. Thanks very much. Would buy one of these if my pockets were bottomless.
what's the difference between the gt and the R ????
One of the better looking bikes from Team Ugly. Nice review TMF, thanks again.
Great review as always TMF, thank you. Hey, I am a little worried about your venture across the white zig zags both sides of the crossing.
Sorry - my bad!!
I did a review on this as well and posted it on my channel. Just loved the fun factor of this bike!! That V-Twin is just awesome!! I could certainly trade up for one of these!!
Great stuff as always - itching to have a go on a KTM - especially the Adventure! Thanks again!
Awesome and elegant review as usual 👏🏼👍🏼
Thanks!
That torgue must be a dream, nice bike. Thanks TMF
Another great real world review, mate. I rode a super duke r today and didn't like it much - too different to my XR and GS. But, this I do like... Tell me, would you replace your GS with one?
No never!
TheMissendenFlyer why not?
You mentioned that you couldn't really find anything bad to say about the Super Duke (apart from looks only a mother could love and a fiddly menu that might take your eyes off the road) but how about no centre stand?
Like your pet hate of missing fuel gauges, this is surely a must for a 230 kg bike where you want to make say regular chain lubrication as straightforward as possible.
A lot of people hate the looks, I think it’s modern and very cool looking.
I actually find this bike beautiful
Glad to hear it!
Stunning
Right. Great review as always TMF - I appreciate your attention to detail in reviewing bikes plus I really enjoy your accent : ). I own a 1290 SA - the original 2015 big adv. bike, and i'm looking to choose between a 2019 1290 SAS or this - the 2019 1290 GT. I'm used to KTM styling and quirkiness so looks are not an issue for me, on the contrary I see them as a differentiator. Since you have tested both - I followed the SAS long term review you did a while back - I have a few questions and would appreciate your input: how do you feel they compare in terms of comfort - riding position ( ergo triangle - seat, pegs, bars ), soaking up bumps - I know the SAS is capable overall but maybe a bit long legged vs the GT that I know it used to be harsh before but I understand it has newer software for the suspension, and which one would you choose if you had to do a lot of filtering in town traffic - stability, flickabilty, mirrors height vs cars mirrors. At the end of the day if it were you money - and BMW stopped making the GS :) - which one would you choose as your daily do it all - the SAS or the GT ? Thank you in advance. cheers
SAS for me....and I haven't got an accent! ;0)
If I view it as adventure-tourer I say it’s actually one of the best and most aggressive looking bike in that category. I wouldn’t call BMW R/GS, super tenere, ect. any prettier.
Good video, and nice bike to, just a quick one, how do you get audio to your GoPro? And when it’s raining too? Thanks
I just use a lavalier mic
Thanks for that, but to plug it in, to the GoPro it makes the GoPro not waterproof ie the flap has to be open? I have a GoPro black 7
Or could you do a video of your camera setup pls, I’m off to do the Scottish757 and would like to Record it? I have not done anything like that before, thanks
I was waiting to see if you mentioned a pouncing rhinoceros again and you did. Brilliant!!
Glad to be of service....
Nice bike with oodles of power but those tft screens and ever increasing menus are just too distracting on a bike.
It just looks like a sports / naked bike with a screen so i wouldnt be doing any serious touring on this which brings me straight back to the R...
Yep, I get that....thanks for watching!
TMF, you said two years ago that You would have a Tracer GT instead of the Super Duke GT as your tourer. Do you still maintain that or this bike has changed your opinion.
Personally I’d still go for the Tracer GT (if I couldn’t have a GS!)
@@TheMissendenFlyer A good choice. I am now the proud owner of one and did my first bit of touring in Thailand with a pillion and full set of luggage and it was brilliant. Stable at 180kmh and can cruise all day at UK legal speeds whilst averaging 4 lites per 100km. A great bike for the price. Incidentally, its half the price of the GS in Thailand. 50%!
Technically it's maybe a very good bike but my eyes are bleeding when I look at it.
But I honestly love the looks! That beast must look like an ugly piece of shit having these tec specs.
True that's why I've changed it to Ducati GT 1000.
@SunzOffski I've changed that photo so you do not have to look at Multistrada anymore - it war a good bike but also ugly as f...
Who cares? You going to ride it or park it in your art gallery?
I like the look of it
Nice review and an absolutely great bike! 🤩
Btw, the black handguards are missing!? 🤔
Backlog at the factory, now available
Brilliant review as always. Have to agree with the looks, very wasp/hornet like. Just a pity the weather wasnt a bit kinder to you and the bike. However enough grunt to easily dispatch those pesky vans! 😁
Defo no lack of power on this puppy...
Think the looks could be improved by a better colour combo
Martin Frost I would black out the fairings and change the orange to more of a burnt orange color if I wanted to keep the standard aesthetic
Many thanks for another excellent video. I just love your reviews.
I am thinking of getting one but I am worried about the wind protection. The bike will be used mainly for touring and this sometimes involve covering 700 to 1000km in one day....based on your short review how will the bike handle it?
Well you need to get a test ride and make your own mind up but I think it would be just fine for that....
Keep up the good reviews!!👍
As always, excellent review! Just a quick question, whats your thoughts on the clutch. I test rode both the the super duke and the Gt last summer, and found that not only the clutch was heavy (in comparison to a GS for example), but also that it was difficult to find neutral. Did you have this problem with the new GT?
Not at all, much better gearbox than the GS!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you very much for your reply! I guess it will have to be on my list of ride tests this spring... :-)
Definitely in the same category as the Yamaha Tracer 900 GT. As far as price goes, I think the Yamaha is cheaper but the KTM has some better components as far as forks and suspension. I love what the manufacturers are doing in the sport touring class overall.
I'm selling my FJ right now with only 4K miles on it
Two different worlds power wise
Lovely engine, but KTM styling is an acquired taste. A shade under 17K, is pricey. While I realise bikes are relatively low volume production items, when you consider the additional complications, labour, time and amount of addition materials needed to put together a car, it does seem to be excessive. However, I would still rather have a bike, just not this one .
Not so complex as you think, it's all much cheaper than what they make you pay for it
ALIENdrifter66 bloody right that, pricing on bikes has gotten so out whack with the true value of the product it total horse cock.
Amazing bikes 😊👍. Just can't get past the looks .
I know it’s all about the bike, but it would have been ok with a comment or two on the ‘magic roundabout’ 😆. It’s an attraction in it self. But a brilliant review as always 👍
Almost worth a video on that alone!
First time that your speedo has gone all blurry! Very bold!
Another great review...odd to see you going through Berko. The looks are still an acquired taste. Sat on a GT at KTM Hemel at the weekend. I am fairly tall, but still comfortable. Ok, so it is pricey, but if you want to get one on a PCP deal, (some people like PCP, others hate them), the APR rates charged by some KTM dealers are quite low...as in almost 50% less than the rates charged by Ducati and BMW. Alternatively, you can get them on a good HP deal. Some 2018 bikes have 0%.
Excellent review as allways Sir! Could you let us know what jacket you were using in this video?
It’s my Oxford Mondial - check out my review!
Yea saw the review of the jacket pop up, as I finished the GT review - Cheers mate
Great video. Not related this video, but how many miles do you get out of the BMW GS ?
How do you mean???
Missy what are the differences between 2018 and 2019? Is it all aesthetics? Edit: I need to listen better! Don't worry haha!
What lovely scenery! Where is it? Going to UK with a couple of mates this summer. Cornwall and Wales mostly. Cheers!
This is just the suburban 'Home Counties' - Wales and Cornwall will be waaaaay more lovely.
Agreed! (For the record, this was near Hemel Hempstead and Berkamstead)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you! We'll be focusing on Cornwall and Wales then... :-)
Great review, thanks.
Like the big USB port on the numberplate :D
Very good review tmf nice bike though . Just purchased 2019 Mt10 thanks danny
Congratulations!
I have the previous model but I’m not tempted to get the 2019, I don’t care for the looks of the front end. I’m getting mine re-mapped with the 2019 engine map at my dealer next week....for free!. I’ve had mine for 2 years and absolutely love it, puts a big smile on my face every time I ride it.
Nice one....
You're in hemel hempstead, I thought the KTM shop had closed down there?
No mate it just moved to a new location in Hemel a few years ago.
Certainly not, just moved to much bigger premises up the road....pretty fancy dealership and well worth a visit...
Certainly not, just moved to much bigger premises up the road....pretty fancy dealership and well worth a visit...
Ashridge is lovely, we ride our mountain bikes up there. Personality I'd go for the Africa twin, of all the adventure bikes.
How was the wind protection on the lower extremities? Looks like that fairing might keep wind off your knees, but leave you a little exposed lower down.
Seemed fine Arthur, overall weather protection was pretty good in my view.....
I've tested this beautiful machine just a couple of days ago on a sunny island of Mallorca, Spain, and let me please share my notes with you and your fans. Supposed to be ridden on one wheel. Handles like a bicycle, incredibly agile, stupidly fast, sounds like a fuking thunder on high revs even with the stock exhaust. The bike is definitely not for a novice, unless you wanna suicide in a pure joy. Pros: THE ENGINE! This bike is just about the engine! Manageable power due to high-tech electronics. Disable traction with abs, and enjoy wheelies and rear sliding. Beautiful tft screen better than your mom’s phone, with all the possible road information you imagine. 3 level cornering lights and marvelous led headlight. Both ways quickshifter and a slipper clutch will leave a wide grin on your face. The massive V2 is a killer engine, delivering power evenly as long as you open the throttle, the reaction of the engine is instant...I mean INSTANT, pulling on any gear! Cons: quickshifter upshifts too rough, comparing to my k1300s, so I wouldn’t use it while cornering. Sometimes when thrashing the bike hell off quickshifter simply fails. Mirrors are too close to your head, meaning you will have twist your neck all the time. However, why do you need the mirrors anyway? Engine produces so much heat that it can warm up some tiny country 🇱🇻 in winter. Changing the power mode or the suspension preload is a pain in the arse. It is so deep in the menu (as well as heated grips), that will take you at least 30 seconds to switch it. The bike is extremely provocative. It doesn’t want to go slow, cos the throttle is waaaay too responsive, always kicking your ass asking for more. The faster you go, the smoother it flies. Comfort suspension I’d make softer and sport suspension harder. However, I wouldn’t exclude that semiactive suspension system intervenes and makes the suspension modes feel vague enough for your ass to see the difference. The seat has to be changed - 3 hours of non-stop riding make your ass suffer a lot. All in all this is the ultimate killer machinery for riders who prefer to be always on focus, ready to race.
One more fact that is important to note. The bike brings so much confidence that in 30 minutes of riding on the mountain twisties, I was leaning the bike till my knees, cutting the corners the way I have never done in my life on any bike I have ridden. And all that on a touring stock GT tires.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that down! All the best - TMF
Glad you noticed 2 items that have not been " improved " on this model, the seat which for a touring model is horrible for touring and another item which you really notice if you live in Arizona is the engine heat that is produced. I have actually burned my left leg wearing jeans on hot days that involve stop and go traffic.It is rare that anyone even mentions this ! Hope the windscreen is improved also, it does not do much for someone 6'2"....thanks for the insight.
Great review TMF
Why am I thinking Granada Scorpio
Fugly
And just for info, the screen did adjust the same way. And the issue with the grips can be changed if you assign heated grips to your favourites, then it's just 1 press to get to what you wish to change. Do have to say I love the tft dash, I love the one on my adventure s
Judging by some of the comments here, i am probably on my own when i say i quite like the look of it, and i think you are right about the front end...definitely a bit waspish.
You’re definitely not alone Steven, but possibly in a minority judging by the comments here! Looks aside, this is a very good bike....
How come you're bike has no hand guards ??? I thougt it came standard with the new model??? But it is a nice bike 👍👍👍👍another great vid
Thank you....
If you change the map to rain mode it softens the throttle response the keyless is great when using a tank bag and also the cruise control is on the left now another improvement over my bike i should have waited dam 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
After testing all of these bikes are you still partial to the GS ? Is there any one bike you would consider over the GS? Name your best five bikes for 10 hour travel. How about middle bikes in the 800 or 850 range? I hope you'll check out the new Moto Guzzi v85tt as well. Sorry for all the questions, but your videos are second to none!!
Thanks for the kind words - and yes, the GS is still king for me....
Great channel 👍, for now I'll stick with me gixer thou but given the choice I'd probably have a multistrada.
Would be my second choice after a GS. Not 100% sold on the front end but could live with it. Some good deals around on them too.
Another quality review and undoubtedly a great bike, but I couldn't love it, just because of the looks...just doesn't do it for me. I'd rather have a Yamaha Tracer 900gt, which is probably 90% as good, for a lot less money.
Price is good!, £16k wow. Nice bike mind and decent review again
Reliability issues, any ?
I have got a question mr flyer have you ever tested a can am spyder? I would be very interested to see what you think of them being they are so different.
No I haven’t.....
TheMissendenFlyer hi would it be something you might like to try in the future. I have got one a 2011 rt auto and I would be willing to for you to try it and give your opinion unfortunately I am up near derby but if your ever this way and your able insurance wise you would be most welcome. They are different and a experienced rider like yourself it would be interesting to hear your take on the bike/trike.
So happy for you that you get to ride real motorcycles every once in a while! :)
Nice review - thanks and cheers :)
Nice review as always, I do have some small negative things about the bike. I was looking at this bike, but settled for a SAS 1290
1) if your tall like me, 187cm then chances are you you will hit the tank when shifting. So that's a definitive no go.
2) the compartiments are a little bit small for a decent smartphone. (s9 Samsung)
I wonder how it performs when riding two up, comfort Wise.
And the black version looks way better imo ;)
Also doubting between the GT and the SAS 1290. And indeed, I think a pillion would be better of on a SAS than the GT. The SAS also has longer fairings in the front, so might even be more comfortable. Although I like the looks of the GT better. Still have to do a test drive.
Nice review✌️
Great bike...with a front end only a mother could love.