Personally, I'm excited to see if any of these cards have any impact at all on Vintage. So far, I don't see anything that looks like it'd see play there, but I'm also *really bad at this game* so I'm maybe wrong. Either way, perhaps one day one of the cards will make it on to "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
I love your videos Nizza. Have helped me a lot to improve my drafts records. But a sad (or maybe funny) story.. I drafted a cool modify deck with 2 (!!!) Goro-Goro and 1 Jugan Defends the temple. I thought I had the best deck ever....until I went with a pitiful 1-3. I never got to play to my rares and mana was not on my side :( haha. I guess variance can get you even when you have some crazy bombs!
I played against half a dozen decks using goro goro in premier and traditional draft and goro goro underperformed in every game, i never saw the dragon token
@@sunstrid3r44 Damn, that sucks - were you in the Gruul Reconfigure archetype ? Were there not enough cards available that modified creatures ? Maybe those cards are getting drafted too highly.
@@Nr4747 It was definitely a mix of variance of bad luck! My first match I was against a guy who had even more bombs than me! The second one, I got mana flood.... yikes!! In neither of those games I got any of my rares. And finally on my third and final game, I did get Goro Goro on play!!! with 1 only mountain, so no way to activate his ability.... yeah. That was my sad experience :D. Oh and btw Jugan never showed his petty little face in any game.
Appreciate your videos Nizza, the quality of your videos keeps on getting better and better and you deserve to be on the top of MTG content creators. Keep up the good work.
I played The Emperor in my first sealed WR deck. She'll definitely win you the game if opponent doesn't have removal (which they had twice, sadly). Still went 6-3.
Just got home from a pre-release sealed, where I went 3-1-0! It was a ton of fun, and your videos helped me quite a bit :) Reactions: > Kyodai was my promo! > I got the Emperor in my reward packs, too.
quick reminder for everyone that while bombs are powerful, a bad deck with bombs will usually lose to a good deck without. Don't get too tunnel-visioned onto your bombs if the colours aren't open!
@@saldiven2009 I absolutely agree. I have never seen those in English versions of Japanese names on Magic cards, though. And considering what Kyoudai is, Sibling makes a hell of a lot more sense as a name than Huge.
Did my first sealed run of Kamigawa and got Junji and The Wandering Emperor (Also got Restoration of Eijanjo, Tatsumanari, and March of Wretched Sorrow). Pretty damn good set of rares/mythics.
That green dragon saga is very reminscent of Wildborn Preserver from Eldraine, which was absolutely massive. I've seen that card just completely take over games.
I’m looking foward to building a commander deck around Satoru. It’ll have a lot of ninjas, but I’m absolutely gonna throw in 1 or 2 eldrazi titans and other things like them
Got Reality Chip in my sealed and never found the time to actually equip it in my low-curve blue/red artifacts deck. The effect is powerful for sure, but yeah, need to actually find the time to get to using it. I'd imagine it's actually best in green/blue because that color combination is much more likely to be able to spend 3 mana on an effect that at the moment of activation is harming your board and might need to go a few cards into the deck till it actually breaks even if you're unlucky. The format is high-powered and favors attacking over defending, as far as first impressions go. Oh yeah, also worth noting that the green artifact/enchantment removal is probably maindeckable, which is also bad news for Reality Chip.
@@NizzahonMagic Clearly they had the better deck for it then! Probably also worth noting it gets stronger when you have things to draw with it that aren't just commons and lands.
At the prerelease last night, I was one of only three players who didn't pull at least one of the mythic dragons. A few people pulled 2. That felt awful.
I'm a little confused about Jugan. Chapter 1 is great early, but terrible late. Chapter 2 needs at least 2 creatures on the board to get the full effect, and there's no guarantee your monk will survive the opponent's turn, especially if you need to block with the monk to stall. The remnant being a 2/2 flyer after 3 turns unless you lean heavily into modification and have an existing board state seems like a build-around. I can see the potential in the activated ability, especially with cheap ninjutsu creatures, but is it really bomb-level good if it requires so many other cards and archetypes to make an impact?
You need to play creatures and thats it. If you manage to make the monk survive you both have more mana and one modified creature. Then just pay that extra mana to make stuff bigger. If that alone wont win you the game, the 7/7 flyier should do the work. Drawing your 3 drop late is usually bad, yes, but you afected the board 3 times with this card alone. If you are ahead its great, if you are in parity its great and if you are behind its fine. But most often you need removal if you are behind... with 1 life and your opponent with 5 creatures more than you not even Ao (white dragon) will save your ass.
Yeah, depending on how often one can get the keyword abilities stick to it, it could definitely end up as a bomb. I gave it a B+ in the review, but could definitely see it getting there.
imagine if compleated came on creatures when we finally get a set with a lot of phirexians, entering with two -1/-1 counters if you pay life would be a great way to balance phirexian mana!
I haven't won a single game where I saw one of these dragons, they are nuts! My experience so far is that synergistic decks are way more powerful than those with just efficient creatures, loads of removal and also bombs if you don't draw them. Going all artefacts or all enchantments has done the job quite well.
I remember how strong white was in kemigawa. With konda and the other legendary with vigilance. Is white back?? Plains standard deck? Or does mono white still need help?? With boros or vamps white black? @nizzahon magic
I played with Tamiyo and Goro-Goro so far and have to say that Tamiyo was great, but Goro-goro had to meet too many conditons for it to work and is only a 2/2. Even though I was playing RG, I got to activate him only once because it died most of the times.
umezawa being able to get out a beefy eldrazi faster than tron is so funny, since you can just play an unblockable creature turn 1, then ninjitsu in emrakul or something ridiculous on turn 4
@@NizzahonMagic Thanks for the reply! I have Ecologists Terrarium (fetch basic) Grafted growth (2 of any one colour) 3x uncharted haven (1 of a chosen colour) 1x thornwood falls (u/g) 1x blooming sands (w/g) in a U/G splash B (6/6/1 for basics) it feels so close to being enough; it's a tough decision
Ah, the classic "it dies to removal" argument! But yeah, there is removal that can deal with them entirely, but there is far more of it that doesn't do the job.
Definitely great cards but not really bombs. Still great in limited when you draw one late, but in constructed they're super strong because they're legendary lands (better than basics) without the normal downside of legendary lands. It's all upside. But they don't "blow your opponent out of the water" like a bomb would, either.
@@Blackvolttage No it was not a joke about giving up the game, it was a legit joke about winning with a jank card. Sadly, I was not aware that Ninjutsu is not considered casting. On retrospect, that makes since as anyone with a hint of blue could just counter the card you are ninjaing in. She was coming from the hand and sadly, I have not read her in over a decade so I forgot she used the work 'cast' and not 'comes into play'.
Tameshi should be on this list, at least ahead of 9 and 10, maybe even ahead of 8. You have to build around him a little bit, but the value he generates is absolutely ridiculous.
Tamiyos reanimate ability as so balanced for its kind. Why doesnt wizards print more of this? Its a one off unlike almost anything else where you could potentially reanimate a card multiple of times
Depends how fast the format is, give it a couple of weeks, my initial thoughts are that it is slow enough for blue players to be able to play a 7 mana bomb given the higher toughness and low attack on blue creatures.
This format is incredibly slow, and in most of my limited games it was turn 3 before the first card was even played, leading to games lasting well after turn 7. My sample size is pretty small though.
Not super familiar with Modern, but the artifact lands from mirrodin/modern horizons 2 will get hit by farewell right??? And especially since the modern horizons 2 ones would otherwise be indestructible but they're exiled with farewell
With how many removals nowadays being exile instead of destroying, you're just extremely unlikely to get the dragon death effects. I mean look at your number 9, farewell. You're your 9th best pick is an answer to your number 1 pick. They're even mono color, so you can just vanishing verse them too. If Jin-Gitaxias wasn't 7 mana he would have been higher on your list since it blocks pretty much everything that isn't a creature.
Satoru Umezawa isnt a bomb. He looks good on paper, but he is so deck dependent. In late game he does nothing. He has No impact on a board the turn you play him. Too overrated card in limited.
I agree- four mana is already above the price of most of the creatures in your deck, and while the upside is alright, it's not really comparable to a bomb like Hidigetsu or even Spring-Leaf Avenger, imo
I also agree. As the other person said, a ninjutsu cost of 4 is not great. To be fair, you should only play Umezawa in a deck with a lot of cards that already have ninjutsu, but getting an unblocked creature is harder to do than Nizzahon makes it out to be, and usually it will require attacking suboptimally with two creatures (with one of them certain to die) just to guarantee you can ninjutsu something in, and usually attacking like that means you're probably taking damage on the swing back. Umezawa is good in the right deck, but I definitely would have replaced him with that black creature with the red ability since that gives you a much easier form of damage and card advantage all on the same package
Love the content, not sold on the human, hope you will be able to become a more engaging presenter! And man, it's a tough line to walk with all the hyperbolic nonsense being produced these days.
The legendary lands are very far from bombs. Thousands faced ninja has a closer claim, but still involves some help to get going. All 10 cards on this list are better Pathetic comment.
If there's one benefit of my terrible new sleep schedule, it's that I can catch Nizzahon vids early
Welcome to the club, pal
Personally, I'm excited to see if any of these cards have any impact at all on Vintage. So far, I don't see anything that looks like it'd see play there, but I'm also *really bad at this game* so I'm maybe wrong. Either way, perhaps one day one of the cards will make it on to "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
Genuinely, how long have you been doing this for? It's got to be like 4 years at this point
@@originalusername295 His requests will continue until morale improves.
I'm amazed he hasn't acknowledged you by now. It's gotta happen eventually, we've all been waiting years
You can cheat Jin gitaxias into play on turn 1-2very easy
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I love your videos Nizza. Have helped me a lot to improve my drafts records. But a sad (or maybe funny) story.. I drafted a cool modify deck with 2 (!!!) Goro-Goro and 1 Jugan Defends the temple. I thought I had the best deck ever....until I went with a pitiful 1-3. I never got to play to my rares and mana was not on my side :( haha. I guess variance can get you even when you have some crazy bombs!
Damn, but I assume it had to have been variance, right ? I was really excited about drafting some sweet Reconfigure decks - I'm sure they can work.
I played against half a dozen decks using goro goro in premier and traditional draft and goro goro underperformed in every game, i never saw the dragon token
@@sunstrid3r44 Damn, that sucks - were you in the Gruul Reconfigure archetype ? Were there not enough cards available that modified creatures ? Maybe those cards are getting drafted too highly.
@@Nr4747 It was definitely a mix of variance of bad luck! My first match I was against a guy who had even more bombs than me! The second one, I got mana flood.... yikes!! In neither of those games I got any of my rares. And finally on my third and final game, I did get Goro Goro on play!!! with 1 only mountain, so no way to activate his ability.... yeah. That was my sad experience :D. Oh and btw Jugan never showed his petty little face in any game.
The great thing about Goro-Goro is his ability doesn't specify once per turn & can be used repeatedly.
Appreciate your videos Nizza, the quality of your videos keeps on getting better and better and you deserve to be on the top of MTG content creators. Keep up the good work.
Glad you like them!
Yes, thank you! I asked for this type of video just the other day as a comment on your green preview video. Cheers!
He does it everytime ;)
I played The Emperor in my first sealed WR deck. She'll definitely win you the game if opponent doesn't have removal (which they had twice, sadly). Still went 6-3.
Just got home from a pre-release sealed, where I went 3-1-0! It was a ton of fun, and your videos helped me quite a bit :)
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> Kyodai was my promo!
> I got the Emperor in my reward packs, too.
I pack 1 pick 1ed a Jugan defends the temple in my first Kamigawa draft, and then got a Tamiyo, Compleated Sage for my second pack! I was super hyped!
quick reminder for everyone that while bombs are powerful, a bad deck with bombs will usually lose to a good deck without. Don't get too tunnel-visioned onto your bombs if the colours aren't open!
Some of the names in this set make me chuckle. Like, "Kyodai, Soul of Kamigawa." "Kyodai" means "huge" in Japanese.
I haven't seen the Kanji, but I'm pretty sure they mean it to mean 'sibling'. (Long o, I believe.)
@@NemisCassander Sibling should be written as kyoudai or with a macron over the "o" to indicate long vowel.
The two kanji are 巨大 for kyodai and 兄弟 for kyoudai.
@@saldiven2009 I absolutely agree. I have never seen those in English versions of Japanese names on Magic cards, though. And considering what Kyoudai is, Sibling makes a hell of a lot more sense as a name than Huge.
@@NemisCassander Well, it _is_ a big monster....
Did my first sealed run of Kamigawa and got Junji and The Wandering Emperor (Also got Restoration of Eijanjo, Tatsumanari, and March of Wretched Sorrow). Pretty damn good set of rares/mythics.
When I saw Reality Chip at #5, I already knew that you placed all the dragons on 1 slot. Those dragons are just insane!
creatures which can't handle pacifism can never be called "insane" unfortunately
That green dragon saga is very reminscent of Wildborn Preserver from Eldraine, which was absolutely massive. I've seen that card just completely take over games.
Yea
I’m looking foward to building a commander deck around Satoru. It’ll have a lot of ninjas, but I’m absolutely gonna throw in 1 or 2 eldrazi titans and other things like them
I got my hands on The Wandering Emperor in UW white draft today, truly a strong, sweet card. Also comes with fancy animations.
Today i did a sealed draft on MTGArena, got 3 dragons and a Kaito. i made several decks
Got Reality Chip in my sealed and never found the time to actually equip it in my low-curve blue/red artifacts deck. The effect is powerful for sure, but yeah, need to actually find the time to get to using it. I'd imagine it's actually best in green/blue because that color combination is much more likely to be able to spend 3 mana on an effect that at the moment of activation is harming your board and might need to go a few cards into the deck till it actually breaks even if you're unlucky. The format is high-powered and favors attacking over defending, as far as first impressions go. Oh yeah, also worth noting that the green artifact/enchantment removal is probably maindeckable, which is also bad news for Reality Chip.
Meanwhile, someone else in the comments is advocating for it to be number one based on their sealed. Haha.
@@NizzahonMagic Clearly they had the better deck for it then! Probably also worth noting it gets stronger when you have things to draw with it that aren't just commons and lands.
I really want The Wandering Emperor, might get me to build again the old Captain Sisay deck, more legendary removal!
I was able to sneak out one of the dragons with Umezawa and it was SOOOOOOO satisfying.
At the prerelease last night, I was one of only three players who didn't pull at least one of the mythic dragons. A few people pulled 2. That felt awful.
I'm a little confused about Jugan. Chapter 1 is great early, but terrible late. Chapter 2 needs at least 2 creatures on the board to get the full effect, and there's no guarantee your monk will survive the opponent's turn, especially if you need to block with the monk to stall. The remnant being a 2/2 flyer after 3 turns unless you lean heavily into modification and have an existing board state seems like a build-around. I can see the potential in the activated ability, especially with cheap ninjutsu creatures, but is it really bomb-level good if it requires so many other cards and archetypes to make an impact?
You need to play creatures and thats it. If you manage to make the monk survive you both have more mana and one modified creature. Then just pay that extra mana to make stuff bigger. If that alone wont win you the game, the 7/7 flyier should do the work.
Drawing your 3 drop late is usually bad, yes, but you afected the board 3 times with this card alone. If you are ahead its great, if you are in parity its great and if you are behind its fine.
But most often you need removal if you are behind... with 1 life and your opponent with 5 creatures more than you not even Ao (white dragon) will save your ass.
The dragons have to be the best wubrg cycle for limited in YEARS
Yeah, it might be. There's usually one card in those cycles that is just good instead of a bomb, but not this time!
In the proper deck Eater of Virtue is insane. Seriously got my ass handed to me by that thing.
Yeah, depending on how often one can get the keyword abilities stick to it, it could definitely end up as a bomb. I gave it a B+ in the review, but could definitely see it getting there.
imagine if compleated came on creatures when we finally get a set with a lot of phirexians, entering with two -1/-1 counters if you pay life
would be a great way to balance phirexian mana!
I first-picked a brilliant restoration and went all-in on GW enchantments. I’m currently 3-1 so hopefully I can get to 7
Idk why or how you don't have at least twice as many subs. Your videos are great!! Content, titles, format and regularity. Thx a bunch
I appreciate that!
I haven't won a single game where I saw one of these dragons, they are nuts! My experience so far is that synergistic decks are way more powerful than those with just efficient creatures, loads of removal and also bombs if you don't draw them. Going all artefacts or all enchantments has done the job quite well.
I remember how strong white was in kemigawa. With konda and the other legendary with vigilance. Is white back?? Plains standard deck? Or does mono white still need help?? With boros or vamps white black? @nizzahon magic
I played with Tamiyo and Goro-Goro so far and have to say that Tamiyo was great, but Goro-goro had to meet too many conditons for it to work and is only a 2/2. Even though I was playing RG, I got to activate him only once because it died most of the times.
The Goro-Goro dissapointment continues haha. I also got shafted by him. Maybe we were unlucky.
@@claudio3431 haha that's magic
Had Kura in my first Sealed run on Arena. Played it 3 times and it got exiled 3 times....
umezawa being able to get out a beefy eldrazi faster than tron is so funny, since you can just play an unblockable creature turn 1, then ninjitsu in emrakul or something ridiculous on turn 4
I remember you rating The Kami War as a bomb if it resolves; would any amount of fixing lead you to include it in a deck?
Yes, this format has enough that it is doable. You need Tanukis and several dual lands though.
@@NizzahonMagic Thanks for the reply! I have
Ecologists Terrarium (fetch basic)
Grafted growth (2 of any one colour)
3x uncharted haven (1 of a chosen colour)
1x thornwood falls (u/g)
1x blooming sands (w/g)
in a U/G splash B (6/6/1 for basics)
it feels so close to being enough; it's a tough decision
If you can exile a dragon, which you might be able to if you're in white, they lose a lot of their power. Still, if you can't you die usually.
Ah, the classic "it dies to removal" argument! But yeah, there is removal that can deal with them entirely, but there is far more of it that doesn't do the job.
@@NizzahonMagic Yeah, true! I was just lucky enough to get them with Repel The Vile.
I pulled reality chip, tamiyo, and kyodai in prerelease. Did not lose a match
Sounds right.
What about the green land? The set is filled with powerful enchantments
Great card, but it's not styled in a way that makes it a bomb.
hmmm... that card is super good, but is a one-for-one trade usually. falls a little short of bomb status i think
Definitely great cards but not really bombs. Still great in limited when you draw one late, but in constructed they're super strong because they're legendary lands (better than basics) without the normal downside of legendary lands. It's all upside. But they don't "blow your opponent out of the water" like a bomb would, either.
I thought I was gonna see Mechtitan Core on this list.
Lawl good one
Let me just say, I had Jin as my promo card.
Somehow lost every game.
I just… how?
"Im going to Satoru. Oh look, I dropped Phage the Untouchable."
Hmm, is this a joke how you can pay 4 mana to lose the game?
@@Blackvolttage No it was not a joke about giving up the game, it was a legit joke about winning with a jank card. Sadly, I was not aware that Ninjutsu is not considered casting. On retrospect, that makes since as anyone with a hint of blue could just counter the card you are ninjaing in. She was coming from the hand and sadly, I have not read her in over a decade so I forgot she used the work 'cast' and not 'comes into play'.
Tameshi should be on this list, at least ahead of 9 and 10, maybe even ahead of 8. You have to build around him a little bit, but the value he generates is absolutely ridiculous.
I think he takes way too much effort to really be a bomb.
Tamiyos reanimate ability as so balanced for its kind. Why doesnt wizards print more of this? Its a one off unlike almost anything else where you could potentially reanimate a card multiple of times
Jin-Gitaxias is very strong, but too expensive to be a bomb
Depends how fast the format is, give it a couple of weeks, my initial thoughts are that it is slow enough for blue players to be able to play a 7 mana bomb given the higher toughness and low attack on blue creatures.
This format is incredibly slow, and in most of my limited games it was turn 3 before the first card was even played, leading to games lasting well after turn 7. My sample size is pretty small though.
Rock the Dragon!
Do a "Top 10 wierdest Cards"! Thx!
I have done "Wackiest," that might have what you're looking for.
Tameshi should be in the top 10. Ridiculous card that led me to 7 wins on arena
Would you say Reality chip is an expensive Sensei Diving Top?? @Nizzahon Magic
It is far different, because it actually generates card advantage. Top does not.
I won 7-0 in my first Arena premium draft of the set thanks to Atsushi dragon.
Not super familiar with Modern, but the artifact lands from mirrodin/modern horizons 2 will get hit by farewell right??? And especially since the modern horizons 2 ones would otherwise be indestructible but they're exiled with farewell
Yes, they'll get exiled. I can't tell you if the card is good in modern or not, but I can say that rules-wise, that works :p
Just got my ass handed to me in a neon dynasty draft lol
With how many removals nowadays being exile instead of destroying, you're just extremely unlikely to get the dragon death effects.
I mean look at your number 9, farewell. You're your 9th best pick is an answer to your number 1 pick. They're even mono color, so you can just vanishing verse them too.
If Jin-Gitaxias wasn't 7 mana he would have been higher on your list since it blocks pretty much everything that isn't a creature.
Satoru Umezawa isnt a bomb. He looks good on paper, but he is so deck dependent. In late game he does nothing. He has No impact on a board the turn you play him. Too overrated card in limited.
I agree- four mana is already above the price of most of the creatures in your deck, and while the upside is alright, it's not really comparable to a bomb like Hidigetsu or even Spring-Leaf Avenger, imo
I also agree. As the other person said, a ninjutsu cost of 4 is not great. To be fair, you should only play Umezawa in a deck with a lot of cards that already have ninjutsu, but getting an unblocked creature is harder to do than Nizzahon makes it out to be, and usually it will require attacking suboptimally with two creatures (with one of them certain to die) just to guarantee you can ninjutsu something in, and usually attacking like that means you're probably taking damage on the swing back.
Umezawa is good in the right deck, but I definitely would have replaced him with that black creature with the red ability since that gives you a much easier form of damage and card advantage all on the same package
Personally I feel like you way overvalue Jin-kun.
completed != compleated
Jesus :
Of course I'm suscribed !!
Love the content, not sold on the human, hope you will be able to become a more engaging presenter! And man, it's a tough line to walk with all the hyperbolic nonsense being produced these days.
Half the price @ cardmarket ^^ don't be a dummy
No legendary lands no thousand faced ninja? 🙄🙄 Pathetic rank
The legendary lands are very far from bombs. Thousands faced ninja has a closer claim, but still involves some help to get going. All 10 cards on this list are better
Pathetic comment.
"bomb is a good thing" not for me, bombs are reason why i almost completely stop play limited
Magic needs to get rid of planes walkers!