@@stanleyho8009 i mean yeah but then it shouldnt be added to guess my rank because i could just send washed gameplay and then say im diamond in qp or even comp
I learned something really interesting watching these. On any given Jayne GMSR show,plat is a solid guess because most of his clips end up as plat. That tells me that a lot of his viewers are in fact plat. The majority of the clip here are gold or below.... That likely means that more of Eemong and Flats viewers are gold and silver. I watch both so I am in fact mid-high play one one role, low plat - gold one another, and solid gold one the last haha.
@@armstrong2052 well we know who's a regular Eemong viewer rather than a Jayne viewer by this comment. Just kidding, of course that's one of literally every variable I didn't consider. It's a funny anecdote I noticed to make people go heh. Not some personal attack on you or anyone else!
I could tell the mercy clip at 5:38 was plat cause a) mercy went back to healing after getting the kill on pharah and b) mercy used natural cover from the buildings. After killing pharah a silver or even gold mercy might have gotten bloodthirsty and probably flown straight through main, pistol out and ready to take names and kick ass
not true, I have seen people who are hardstuck in high plat as dps, and they rolled through silver and gold because of their mechanics. I mean absolutely rolled, but then they get stuck in high plat because they keep playing like the opponent is silver/gold, which obviously isn't working so there has to be a skill difference.
That clip with Moira leading the charge, can confirm that's something a silver ranked Moira HAS to do. Players in silver rarely have the game sense to know when to dive and need someone else to do it first. Monkey see, monkey do. That's the silver motto.
15:45 Of course there's way. This is the kind that goes to QP just to play meme strats like this. Doesn't matter if the strat is wonky or it just requires you abandoning the team, they came here for this one thing and that's all they're gonna do.
BUT BUT, the ana was right there from the start and he didn't even shoot her until bap amped and he hit Q. The Ana also was completely oblivious to their presence O_O tf going on there.
@@absynthem1ndedplays548 Ana being oblivious is nothing new. That's what made me hate sniper Anas. All they do is snipe and stay completely blind to everything going on around them. They're so buys trying to DPS the enemy Pharah or Widow that a Hog can casually walk up to them and hook them.
@@CalciumChief well, been there done that. Enemy team has echo/pharah/mercy and my team has genji/tracer xD guess who's the only one shooting at the flying stuff... ^^
@@unusualbydefault I mean, I try to counter fliers with Sigma or D.Va, unless I gotta counter stuff in the frontline, but you kinda can leave PharMercy be. Get their whole team and it's not like they can contest from up there.
@@CalciumChief I know mate, that's something I've been telling my premade guys for ages but "ignore hard pocket pharmercy" only works in specific comps and or only if the echo/phara/merci are shite. A good pharmercy just dives on the healers instead of spamming the choke and it's over. Bastion and pharmercy are a pain in the ass to deal with when playing with no-comms one trick pony randoms. Honestly, playing ana, I often end up being the only one contesting the pharmercy or even widow, even tho we have 2 flanker as dps
rule idea: people should only be allowed to submit clips from ranked play. it will make guessing SR easier and you'll be able to see more uniform patterns of behavior and eventually you'll be correctly guessing between silver/gold/plat consistently if people don't submit quick play clips.
There is a reason gmsr is popular and fun and there also is a reason jayne was a GOD in it. if you actually try to explain what people are doing in the clips BEFORE you jump to conclusions, you would be way more accurate in the guessing. love your content, would love to see you grind the gmsr ;)
We've written so many times on the lack of skill differentiation / ranked integrity in Overwatch, this is really funny proof of the concept. They should just flatten into 3 ranks of bad / not so bad / good and be done with it.
You should also remember that it’s easy to spot a bronze/ silver player because as soon as someone presses Q, they all press Q. It’s another one of their pacts
if you guys pay attention to the Anas on the vods you can guess the rank easier; anas that take highground, are not into their rains assess are probably plat or higher. Anas that die under the tanks arm are gold or below.
the key to guess your SR is to judge off the gameplay of the OTHER players. The submitter is showing a play where they're playing out of their mind, but the other players are a more accurate reflection of their SR.
13:00 I called Gold correctly for one simple reason, the Lucio walked in a straight line backwards from the Hanzo for a SOLID TWO SECONDS until he died, there was no way a plat or higher Lucio would do that
Nah, there's plenty of people who probably have the mechanical skill to be a higher rank, but don't bother actually grinding ranked, cause they don't find it fun.
The clue that the silver Rein on the bridge in Lijiang was silver was actually the Ana nano-ing him after the shatter and after most of the kills. Tooootal silver move.
4:02 looking down when slamming is theoretically to make the slam hit faster (hammer has to travel less distance). Obviously that shouldn't me the case.
Theres no way that soldier is plat man. Im here playing my brains out using natural cover doing call outs and shit and these guys literally sat next to an unaware ana with soldier bap and used both ults to kill her lmao that was hilarous
The soldier flank was quickplay. Soldier with window flank when team isn’t there would be bronze but this was just quickplay (there were multiple quickplay)
To be fair, I think I would be either high gold or low plat if I played more comp. I've been playing pc for a couple of months so I'm still not super comfortable on it, but seeing my clip on here was pretty cool :)
I actually disagree! I can totally understand feeling this way, and maybe it has to do with what roles/heroes you play the most. for example, I play support and I'm the most comfortable playing Mercy, so I feel very confident about watching support and Mercy potgs and guessing their SR because I know my people lol. but with DPS and tank, my guess is always gold or plat because I have no idea lol tbh, when I'm watching these clips, the only times I feel confident about my guess and get it right is when I'm paying attention to what the rest of the person's team is doing/what the enemy team is doing lol
Yes. Having 300+ hours on Mercy I can roughly tell the rank by the steadiness of their sens and accuracy, if you want to climb at all w Mercy you need to know how to aim. Thats not super impressive. Game sense is #1 though a mercy player even in plat has to have high awareness and quick decision making. A mercy above plat will have less fun clips because she shouldn't have to pop off big time with pistol if her team is diamond lmao, it would be a clip of good beam usage and kiting/playing around corners
as a bronze dps player, i really thought that soldier was bronze too 😭 like i never did it, but when they’re all ALIVE & NOT PUSHING CART, i question it. i get you have 4 minutes, but that time goes by so fast 💀
I love Emonggs little Gremlin smile when he trolls Flats
"Iron! This is literally wood!" - Flats
"You thought it was wood!" - Emongg
Ppl rly play like bronze in plat tho fr. They get boosts from their friends and just win 50% of their games by getting carried.
I could not stop laughing. Believe it or not the flank windowvisor worked 3 times that match
tracking was wood lmao
Guys you know this was quickplay right? So rank is just almost unguessable at that point
@@stanleyho8009 i mean yeah but then it shouldnt be added to guess my rank because i could just send washed gameplay and then say im diamond in qp or even comp
I learned something really interesting watching these. On any given Jayne GMSR show,plat is a solid guess because most of his clips end up as plat. That tells me that a lot of his viewers are in fact plat. The majority of the clip here are gold or below.... That likely means that more of Eemong and Flats viewers are gold and silver. I watch both so I am in fact mid-high play one one role, low plat - gold one another, and solid gold one the last haha.
Gold/Plat would always be the best guesses since those are the most populated ranks
Submitted vods and selected vods, may be a variable you didn't consider? 🤷♂️
@@armstrong2052 well we know who's a regular Eemong viewer rather than a Jayne viewer by this comment.
Just kidding, of course that's one of literally every variable I didn't consider. It's a funny anecdote I noticed to make people go heh. Not some personal attack on you or anyone else!
it's fair since most players will allways be around gold and plat (speaking as a gold-plat myself)
no one plays masters tho
I could tell the mercy clip at 5:38 was plat cause a) mercy went back to healing after getting the kill on pharah and b) mercy used natural cover from the buildings. After killing pharah a silver or even gold mercy might have gotten bloodthirsty and probably flown straight through main, pistol out and ready to take names and kick ass
I do this every time. You’re right. I’m a silver mercy, I feel called out
I can play pistol only Mercy even in plat and still climb kid, speak for yourself.
@@thewalkingjoke3843 bet. I'm in an overwatch queue right now and now I HAVE to go pistol only mercy next game
@@marinacroy1338 u won?
@@thewalkingjoke3843 8 elims only 1k healing (I cheated a little) but yes we won 😤😤😤
what you should learn from this is silver, gold, and plat are all the same rank
Yep lol. Anyone can pick up the game and get plat. Especially if they play Moria lol
What’s with the Luigi music in the background lol
tbf, they all play together in queue I've gotten high silvers, low golds, and plats all in one game
not true, I have seen people who are hardstuck in high plat as dps, and they rolled through silver and gold because of their mechanics. I mean absolutely rolled, but then they get stuck in high plat because they keep playing like the opponent is silver/gold, which obviously isn't working so there has to be a skill difference.
Silver is way different than plat tbh
That clip with Moira leading the charge, can confirm that's something a silver ranked Moira HAS to do. Players in silver rarely have the game sense to know when to dive and need someone else to do it first.
Monkey see, monkey do. That's the silver motto.
That’s why I knew it was silver. He was leading the charge and pure dps.
“Good morning youtube I got a goody for you today” 😳
Goodie*
I have*
@@maxkeogh4976 he said "got"
Best part of the videos for shure
@@swo684 my bad
That Mercy clip with the ulting Pharah broke my brain. That has to be bronze.
5:07
The pharah looked boosted ngl 💀
Oran get esla.
Funniest sh!t i've ever seen.
15:45 Of course there's way. This is the kind that goes to QP just to play meme strats like this. Doesn't matter if the strat is wonky or it just requires you abandoning the team, they came here for this one thing and that's all they're gonna do.
BUT BUT, the ana was right there from the start and he didn't even shoot her until bap amped and he hit Q. The Ana also was completely oblivious to their presence O_O tf going on there.
@@absynthem1ndedplays548 Ana being oblivious is nothing new. That's what made me hate sniper Anas. All they do is snipe and stay completely blind to everything going on around them. They're so buys trying to DPS the enemy Pharah or Widow that a Hog can casually walk up to them and hook them.
@@CalciumChief well, been there done that. Enemy team has echo/pharah/mercy and my team has genji/tracer xD guess who's the only one shooting at the flying stuff... ^^
@@unusualbydefault I mean, I try to counter fliers with Sigma or D.Va, unless I gotta counter stuff in the frontline, but you kinda can leave PharMercy be. Get their whole team and it's not like they can contest from up there.
@@CalciumChief I know mate, that's something I've been telling my premade guys for ages but "ignore hard pocket pharmercy" only works in specific comps and or only if the echo/phara/merci are shite. A good pharmercy just dives on the healers instead of spamming the choke and it's over. Bastion and pharmercy are a pain in the ass to deal with when playing with no-comms one trick pony randoms. Honestly, playing ana, I often end up being the only one contesting the pharmercy or even widow, even tho we have 2 flanker as dps
rule idea: people should only be allowed to submit clips from ranked play. it will make guessing SR easier and you'll be able to see more uniform patterns of behavior and eventually you'll be correctly guessing between silver/gold/plat consistently if people don't submit quick play clips.
"we're gonna get better at this"
next vod : "am thinking plat"
The wood clip had me dyinggggg, and not just the clip but Flats calling it wood 💀and being extremely wrong was the cherry on top
Is there anything better than flats having a goody for us?
bro it seems like only yesterday u just got to 100K its great to see you growing so fast. I’m a huge fan thanks for all the content
There is a reason gmsr is popular and fun and there also is a reason jayne was a GOD in it. if you actually try to explain what people are doing in the clips BEFORE you jump to conclusions, you would be way more accurate in the guessing.
love your content, would love to see you grind the gmsr ;)
loving this series guys .. i can't stop laughing watching the interaction between the two of u
I cannot get enough of flats yelling at chat with his arms T-posed
Flats and Emongg: celebrates when the quality is above 720p
me, who's laptop has a 720p screen: ;-;
We've written so many times on the lack of skill differentiation / ranked integrity in Overwatch, this is really funny proof of the concept. They should just flatten into 3 ranks of bad / not so bad / good and be done with it.
"oran get tesla' still cracks me up
Dang 6/10 on the ghost rein skin. I find that one consistently appealing to look at.
You should also remember that it’s easy to spot a bronze/ silver player because as soon as someone presses Q, they all press Q. It’s another one of their pacts
It so is haha
In gold too actually
I’m in silver in OW2 and it’s still true!
if you guys pay attention to the Anas on the vods you can guess the rank easier; anas that take highground, are not into their rains assess are probably plat or higher. Anas that die under the tanks arm are gold or below.
Well when I play ana I be standing in narnia and I'm silver cuz of unfortunate events I usually get 17k+ heal and like 17 sleeps
@@nightmare9399 you're probably going to climb then :)
if the enemy team is running flankers then often ana will play close to the tanks so they can peel easily
@@lucas_doell I literally write probably, not definitely :) of course there are exceptions 😁
Well I am climbing but like you know the people here are either epic throwers or just boosted sometimes
Cheating at GMSR is just the real practice to vs Jayne
the key to guess your SR is to judge off the gameplay of the OTHER players. The submitter is showing a play where they're playing out of their mind, but the other players are a more accurate reflection of their SR.
13:00 I called Gold correctly for one simple reason, the Lucio walked in a straight line backwards from the Hanzo for a SOLID TWO SECONDS until he died, there was no way a plat or higher Lucio would do that
That mercy play is what back in the day would fall as emongg on his poll 😂
Flats ive compiled the data for this series. If a reinhardt gets a slam and charges thats automatically a silver rein
I’m convinced that a few people featured in these videos have to be lying about their sr
Nah, there's plenty of people who probably have the mechanical skill to be a higher rank, but don't bother actually grinding ranked, cause they don't find it fun.
@@scubasteve7286 hello there
your videos make me very happy!! keep the good work going man!😌
The clue that the silver Rein on the bridge in Lijiang was silver was actually the Ana nano-ing him after the shatter and after most of the kills. Tooootal silver move.
Flats little cheeky grin at the Florida Mayhem skin... now we know why!
Gota love how emongg just guess plat until he gets it right
I think they were more satisfied by the qualities than the actual gameplay 😂
when he said that was a good play lmaoo I'm crying
2:40 flats is naruto running with his arms lol
bro your facial expressions have me dying every time 😂
4:02 looking down when slamming is theoretically to make the slam hit faster (hammer has to travel less distance). Obviously that shouldn't me the case.
Unfortunately shatter doesn't work like that. It takes only horizontal axis.
I love this series
me too
The best power couple on youtube.
15:40 KAPPA KAPPA , no fucking shot unless some god mercy boosted his life away
Edit: Overbuff confirms the KAPPA
14:58 this was enemy team help attack payload and team attack help defense
I got 4 kills and my team still lost somehow. The ranked experience.
Theres no way that soldier is plat man. Im here playing my brains out using natural cover doing call outs and shit and these guys literally sat next to an unaware ana with soldier bap and used both ults to kill her lmao that was hilarous
yeah that was a garbage soldier play he doesnt deserve even plat. maybe he was having a bad day though
Once Flats doesn't have a goodie for us anymore, the world will burn
"... but I popped off..." whenever I play a game well, but lose.
been loving the content brother
The soldier flank was quickplay. Soldier with window flank when team isn’t there would be bronze but this was just quickplay (there were multiple quickplay)
I watched both of these. Both good. Both funny as fook. I love you guys
On the first one as soon as i watched it i instantly said “gold or plat” and i couldnt have been more right
I think it would be even more funny / entertaining if you guys guessed SR #’s. It would be even more satisfying too
Jayne NEEDS to react to those LMAO
Love this duo
5:50 it’s literally a quick play clip it doesn’t matter
For the first time I see Flats have only 2 braincells left reading Orange Tesla as Oran Get Tesla. HAHAHA!!!
To be fair, I think I would be either high gold or low plat if I played more comp. I've been playing pc for a couple of months so I'm still not super comfortable on it, but seeing my clip on here was pretty cool :)
I skip the first twitch plug to stumble upon yet another twitch plug
Humorous
Me: "Clever girl"
“Oran Getesla”
Song in the beginning: blues in the velvet room
Oran get tesla. LMAO
Flats I love you and your content, but your words about my tree skin are fighting words. I am tree man. 🌳
14:14 aw yes, the other hero shooter
not gonna lie the last clip reminds me of flats widow. can't headshot a zarya but somehow headshots a flying lucio
“Quality is phenomenal” - Flats talking about the clips.
“What about the quality of your close-up camera?” - Everyone else
Song name is “Blues in the Velvet Room”
I love that you actually pay attention to bronzes
Quick play clips are impossible to guess
How is the first mercy clip play when the mcree didn't even flash her out of res, was that mcree unranked.
Flats: “But I popped off” 🥺
how do you submit a video for SR guesses ? I would love to participate hehehe
Gold. Just vote gold. Every video is gold. lol
I love the tree rein skin 😂 my fave one
They do miss some stuff that would clue them in closer, like the one with the doom falling off the map.
I love that bronce is called Jay3 lol
most support ults r so hard to guess from just the hero (esp mercy lolll)
I actually disagree! I can totally understand feeling this way, and maybe it has to do with what roles/heroes you play the most. for example, I play support and I'm the most comfortable playing Mercy, so I feel very confident about watching support and Mercy potgs and guessing their SR because I know my people lol. but with DPS and tank, my guess is always gold or plat because I have no idea lol
tbh, when I'm watching these clips, the only times I feel confident about my guess and get it right is when I'm paying attention to what the rest of the person's team is doing/what the enemy team is doing lol
Not the Kirby music in the background 😭😭
The reason the last one was min diamond was cause of the target selection, most plats and below wouldnhave continued to shoot that zarya
How do you share a highlight with them?
That second mercy moved similar to me and I immediately said plat. Woohoo.
Breelzebub here, I'm glad my vague clip was accepted bahahhaha
They just forget that they are most likely looking at the players best play and not average play.
you know, j just realized it looks like flat and emongg are in the same house 😂
emongg with the galaxy brain strats guessing plat since an average ow player is plat... also, lowkey calling his chat platchat XD
Hope you have a good day flats
Should do GMSR with only Mercy clips
Yes! XD
Yes. Having 300+ hours on Mercy I can roughly tell the rank by the steadiness of their sens and accuracy, if you want to climb at all w Mercy you need to know how to aim. Thats not super impressive. Game sense is #1 though a mercy player even in plat has to have high awareness and quick decision making. A mercy above plat will have less fun clips because she shouldn't have to pop off big time with pistol if her team is diamond lmao, it would be a clip of good beam usage and kiting/playing around corners
If a Mercy has shaky aim and any hesitation, 1000% gold or below. Steady aim and decisive? Plat or higher 🤣
You're my 2nd fav youtuber bro. Ironically, my 1st fav is Flats2
After a lil while I just guessed silver the whole time
tbh this little horse is ... cute ? but i feel overwatch ahha
I’ve run into that keepitkosher guy in a game before so I new it was gold
and I always will be lmao
How can I send a video for you to watch?
as a bronze dps player, i really thought that soldier was bronze too 😭 like i never did it, but when they’re all ALIVE & NOT PUSHING CART, i question it. i get you have 4 minutes, but that time goes by so fast 💀
I’m glad we get goodies each video.
You should try guessing numbers and if you're within 250 consider it right. Will help a lot for those on the border of two ranks
Didnt realize you are from Boston … how come you dont rock w boston uprising ? Im a fellow new englander go pats
Picking up the scepter where Jayne left off
Emongg is actually the little brother lol
20:40 As a plat Genji with great mechanical skill, that just hurt my eyes to see him also plat.
Wow how modest lol
Technically was gold. He could have gotten better.
If you have great mechanical skill with Genji and are plat, you must be pretty dumb dude. Plats don't know how to deal with good Genjis at all.
Yay he likes the plant skin for rein haha
Are console clips available for the next ones?