I found I stopped Distrohopping when I started using my computers to do things instead of just playing around with different distributions. I know that doesn't sound like it makes sense, but installing linux is NOT actually doing anything. It's just installing software. It may be more complex or less complex, but it's still not really doing anything productive. Doing productive things feels completely different and it doesn't matter what distribution of linux you're using when you're doing things.
"I found I stopped Distrohopping when I started using my computers to do things instead of just playing around with different distributions." Lol. Funny, but I never made Distrohopping, cuz I've actually used Linux as an OS. I mean rather to do stuff, not just play around with it. There are actually big chances that there are better options (distros) for me and stuff, but Xubuntu LTS is kinda fine for me and I'm too lazy to fine tune more "manual" distros. And yeah, I would like to be sure that updates won't break my system.
@@gaiusbaltar7122 No, it's not. Using those software or os's to do something is productive. I can train a kid to install linux. Linus doesn't even really install linux himself anymore, he just has it done for him. That's the whole point. Linux is the means to an end, but it's not the end
@@JarrodHenry OS and software do not install themselves alone. Someone has to do it to make things work. Installing OS and softwares are part of the work of system administrators. Without this work, nobody can't do anything.
Great video man i've been binge watching your videos now im on qtile artix backing up my configs to go back to gentoo using gnu emacs and neovim because of your vids man your awesome man
Google has over 7 years of data they have collected about me. In that time I have never even searched for women's beauty products. Why then am I getting ads for women's beauty products? Surely by this point Google, you would know that I'm interested in Technology and Gaming. I mean I'm only subscribed to 76 (and counting) different Gaming / Linux / Tech channels.
you guys are not getting why fish is used at the first place, main purpose of fish it to be a good INTERACTIVE shell, so if you already have a bunch of shell scripts, you dont have to rewrite them in fish, those scripts are run by bash or zsh interpreters specified in the beginning of each script, so fish has nothing to do with them. Main advantages of fish is sane defaults, so it doesnt have all this junky unnecessary endif or esacs or whatever constructions are there for compatibillity) and it works out of the box without much configuration, and it is also super fast, you wont really notice any lags
You're not the only one that eventually got hornswoggled into watching life unfold in a terrarium. Stranger things have been known to happen. Some are even true.
Distro hopped in the 90s Yggdrasil, Slackware, Debian, Red Hat but settled on Debian after managing a flawless upgrade in place from a.out to elf executable format - it’s solid!
I'm not a distro hopper, only a mad tinkerer lol. I partition my main drive. One partition is my home directory, which has all the . files as a backup (I have a backup of that on a separate physical drive). Another partition of my main drive is the distro installation, with which I can mess to my heart's content. Don't need online storage. :)
Honestly, I'd suggest just consulting the UNIX p*rn reddit and similar subs (also Arch Wiki ftw always). DT is an excellent resource in a comparison of the abundance of programs, but his ricing is minimal. They may not always be the most open and helpful community, but unless you absolutely need a video tutorial, there are extensive documentation that can help and already available videos if you were hoping to get your feet wet with it ASAP. That said, aside from your personal inquiry, yes, I think there is a void that a detailed ricing video tutorial could fill (and @DT, by all means I think that could be an excellent video for you to create that could really help true noobies out). I just think you (the OP) seem already aware of the various facets of ricing and the general process, so probably not worth your time waiting for that.
@@MrGLum32 unix p*rn has a shit useless wiki and unfortunately most posts only list the names of packages. i would love a comprehensive and somewhat exhaustive guide.
@@_yuri Did you actually read the comment? I said Arch Wiki. UNIX P*rn is not for documentation, that's to consult the community. People are quite responsive and open to sharing their dot files. You could post literally the same thing there or in related subs and get a multitude of helpful responses. Anything DT would create would hardly be a comprehensive and exhaustive guide, which was my exact point. But go off bruh.
@@_yuri Literally my response was to try help you achieve your rice sooner than anything DT could remotely help you do by producing a video and would be a much more efficient use of your time. Would it be more intensive and require more from you? Sure, but the resources are readily available there to you, and I was just trying to point you in the right direction for your sake as opposed to waiting around for a video that is likely never going to actually be made. As I said to DT, sure, a basic guide could be helpful to get a real noob a fresh start, but you're not a total noob. Put in the work, dude.
Hey, DT! Is it possible to post timecodes to your videos, especially to the "Hey, DT!" ones? It would be much more convenient to look through the contents, to navigate throughout the video, and to jump directly to the questions in which one is interested. BTW: thank you for your work, your channel is awesome! I'm not the one who switched to Linux because of your videos, my schoolmate introduced me to Linux in early 2000's when I myself was a schoolboy, but I've learned a lot of useful stuff thanks to your channel.
I've landed on Pop OS and pretty much have no intention of changing in the near future--although I have experienced some temptation lately, which I am devoutly resisting. My advice: figure out what it is you really want, and what distro has it. Then, the next time you get tempted to hop, compare where you are now with where you are thinking about going. Now, needs and wants can change--that's normal. But keep that base line in mind. You almost have to design your move in the same way you would design a program. Why did I move to the distro I am on now? Do those reasons still hold? Will the new distro do the same things the current one does? Will it do them better? Will the difference be enough to overcome the work requirement of moving? And those questions are aside from the practical requirements of hardware performance, drivers, etc. Just ask yourself if it's really worth the investment of time and effort. If you just want something new and shiny, customizing your current distro will be a LOT easier than switching.
It's good that you are touching the "distribution" term. I am a bit shocked how many new IT people actually cannot describe what is distribution, what is OS, it's main characteristics and purpose. It might sounds funny for you but that's my experience with a lot young bright people. I thing the issue is in the layers upon layers of abstractions and UI stuff, even in the *nix world last 15 years. People are little bit off the core and how the system is actually functioning. Great job with your channel, wish you all the best!
@@eli1882 Yeah for me it kind of seemed people hated it because when ever they did a gentoo video they complained about the compile times and i'm like thats kind of the point of gentoo
Hi DT! Related to people asking for config files like they were X days/weeks/months/years ago, being their changes-history stored in a git repo it's easy. You only have to use git to 'travel back in time' to the point where the config you are searching for is the one you like. It is something like searching the commit you want with 'git log ...' and then doing a 'git checkout ....' or even a 'git show ...'
Hey DT. Unrelated question, but I hope you see it and respond anyway. Between ArchLabs, ArchBang, Mabox and clean Arch with an Openbox wm, which one would you prefer. You could also rank them from 1 to 4. Thanks for everything you do, man.
Ok, the Linux guy stereo type made me laugh pretty hard. That was good. "Maybe you even have a girlfriend" Oh, and on the Music front, there has been an effort to automate the generation of ALL the melodies possible and copyright them all under creative commons AND an open source license (I don't remember which one) for the auto software itself. The idea is to make it impossible for big Music to keep limiting music to the same couple of melodies.
A. Hey DT Do you think knowing the 7 major distribution families help you understand Linux and and help you provide technical support for Linux? B. The 8 Major Distribution Families Are. 1. Arch 2. Debian 3. Fedora 4. Gentoo 5. Slackware 6. openSUSÉ 7. Ubuntu 8. Independent Distributions C. Mr. DT please continue to get on life's stage and let your Godly inner light shine. Please continue to climb life's ladder and let the world see The Great and Wonderful Gifts, Talents, and Treasures that are inside of you. D. Mr. DT You're a Great Gentleman!!! E. Mr. DT Please stay safe. F. Mr. DT God Bless You!!!
ZSH has everything fish has and is closer to bash. Also is super fast, especially with zinit. Fish plugins, zsh plugins, there's no functional benefit to fish I see. I used fish a for a long time before realizing ZSH is more sensible in a world filled with bash scripts. There's a ZSH plugin for everything.
I've stopped distro hopping after installing Arch because it took me a lot of time to configure it according to my needs and now i don't want those efforts to go waste just for the sake of trying another distro...😂 now I window manager hop...😅 hope will get out of this soon as well
Re: distrohopping; I’m roughly a week and a half into using Linux and I’m pretty certain I’m not going to hop until further down the road. Not because I think my distro is perfect, but because I grew up on MS-DOS, Windows, and Macintosh; where you can’t really configure the workspace and DE to fit your work flow, but the OS reconfigures your workflow to how it’s built. I’m still figuring out my workflow, even if it’s just TH-cam, discord, porn, casual gaming, and writing, so I won’t know how a distro or desktop environment or window manager will click with my needs until I know what they actually are. Also, I did my research and knew that I wanted a lightweight, flexible, and noob-friendly distro that would work on a barely upgraded 10 year old laptop that would get me a touch of pretentiousness, so Manjaro-xfce seems like a good choice so far.
Great vid's, enjoying learning new things.. I started with Linux back in '93 or 94 (think Slackware disksets!), been earning a living with it since '98 in corporate environments, time to find new things to fool with gets scarce. (most of the time with a goatee (choice) and bald (no choice)). Thanks for your effort in finding new things to play with, keep it going!
I couldn't agree more about Distro Hopping. You do tend to tire of it and only do it when something goes radically wrong. Usually I am doing a reinstall of a current Distro because I have broken it. As for saving config files, I have never tried that and don't think I ever saw any videos on how to properly do it (hint, hint). As much as I am not a newbie to Linux, there are things I have yet to attempt. That because we know, Linux has to hurt a little bit, especially when learning. Thanks DT!
Can confirm, fish is wonderful. I can install my powerline prompt with 3 words, and it just works. I start typing a command and 95% of the time it is auto completed to what I wanted to type. I never realized how nice it is until I want back to bash and immediate wanted to cry.
RE: Distro hopping - Just use Arch or an Arch based distro and give it a fair amount of time before switching. I don't want to use anything else at this point.;
@@brendanhansknecht4650 I tried NixOS recently, wanted something like guix but with non-free kernel drivers. Wasn't disappointed, however I don't like the non standard folder structure they use. Going to look into making custom arch isos for quick installation instead.
@@etherweb6796 because I regular do software development that leads to annoying dependencies and conflicts, I am excited to try nix. Also, I have been lazy about config management and plan to set that all up with nixos.
@@brendanhansknecht4650 heh, that is why I was trying out nixOS myself - being able to change configurations on the fly for software development. Most unfortunately for me, I already have a general setup and configuration I use for my workstation, and achieving something similar in NixOS seems to be a lot more work - you save time with the configuration.nix file as to what gets installed, but you also configure everything in .nix files as well - So things like the I3 window manager or alacritty terminal (both of which have excellent config file formats, and can be updated while running) would require additional .nix config files and then also an environment update to change the config. As it is, I've decided to stick with Arch on my workstation - but I might give NixOS another try on a laptop or something
I decided to start modding my fish shell a bit thanks to videos like this. Right now it's pretty basic, just using those fancy chevron arrows and a bit of simple logic. Account name - displays white if user has write access to current working directory, otherwise is black Full path, with home replaced by ~ Last command's exit code if non-zero
I hopped from Ubuntu, to Debian stable, to Debian Testing, and then to Arch Linux which I've been on for about 6 months. I also ran Linux Mint Debian Edition on my laptop for a period of time during the summer before installing Arch Linux on it. I stopped hopping when I found that the availability of software that can be easily installed on Arch Linux is vast when you include the AUR. To satisfy my urge to distro hop, I boot from a live usb or run a virtual machine to check out what's new in a distribution. For new users interested in Linux, I would choose between Linux Mint and Pop! OS and don't look elsewhere unless you have a very specific reason for choosing a distribution like wanting to be in the Red Hat ecosystem with Fedora.
8:12 I got that video recommended as well! XD The algorithm lately recommends a lot of random stuff. The Olympics jump recommendation is becoming more of a meme lately.
Been on arch for the last few years but moved over to nixos a month or so ago. Like the fact it has a heap of packages in the repo and has binary cache for them but also has the ability to customize packages and build them like in gentoo.
CTT has mentioned that distro doesn't matter, thank you for explaining that it doesn't matter once you focus on the command line. -But I can't take commands from Ubuntu or Debian support and use it in Manjaro.
First of all, bald with a goatee is mandatory for good Linux content. Second, I investigated ZSH since all the guys at work are on Macs. ZSH is the default shell. My opinion: Fish is more intuitive. Thirdly, most of us use either Slack or Telegram at work. We spend all day chatting about work and non work related stuff. This is why so many of us are comfortable with online chat.
I have run Linux servers for years, for an internet service/voip/hosting company. I recently was asked by a client I am building a fax server for what linux distro I wanted him to load on the server. I literally told him I don't care. Pick a distro that is Debian or Redhat based and load it, and make sure it has ssh. He ended up loading it with Megeia, I think to mess with me. DT you are totally right that once you are under the hood, with the exception of some distro specific config file locations, they are all pretty much the same.
If the dotfile was versioned at the robe of the video recording (re: config from old video), you should be able to check out an old version from that time!
There's absolutely no reason not to call vim and Emacs distributions »distributions«. In all, they are customized packages of the underlying software products. They come ready to use out of the box, just like any Linux distribution. And just like any Linux distribution, you may choose to further tweak them to your liking, or not. The term »distribution« should not be limited to packages based on the Linux kernel that form a usable operating system. I think DT gets that right. Personally, I use neovim, and despite the fact that it's basically an optimization of the original vim source, I even think of it as a vim distribution, just as much as I consider DOOM a distribution of Emacs, and it's a great one. The only distribution of Emacs that I actually consider using. As for shells, I still prefer zsh. However, I have customized it a bit to match some of the properties that FISH offers. In essence, I use zsh-completions to enhance the out-of-the-box completion feature, and the zsh-syntax-highlighting package, which I enjoy a lot. This basically offers autocomlete for most recent commands as well as syntax highlighting. One feature I enjoy about the highlighting is that in addition to highlighting invalid commands in red, it also dynamically renders a bold font; valid commands are highlighted in green, operators are highlighted in purple, and quoted strings are highlighted in yellow. I assume the latter two are based on the terminal theme.
fish is really nice, i tried so hard making zsh feel like fish, i came too close but it didn't feel as snappy, don't use fish remotely though because it is slower in this particular case. If you miss ctrl+r checkout fish re-search plugin
Git actually saves history so for the situation of wanting an old config from years ago just go to a commit from three years ago. On thing you could do when making such videos is creating tags. Just put a tag on your dotfile repo with the video name or something. Just a tip :)
I like Void or Devuan, been hopping back and forth a bit but Void has sticked the longest on my laptop, it works very well. Usually using OpenBSD utilities so I have Korn shell on my laptop, it's nice.
I only seriously use 2 distros these days. Arch and Debian. Arch on my main machine, and Debian on those that i don't spend much time on myself like my son's laptop. I need that to be stable and predictable, so that i don't have to pay much attention to it for him. My own rig however i like to keep bleeding edge for my gaming mostly, and i also don't mind to tinker under the hood.
One of the huge cons of fish (for me) is that it doesn't autocomplete packages. If they parse man pages for completion, why not use bash and zsh completions as well ? It would be fantastic
A distribution suggests that the core program (Emacs Linux vim) are packaged with the abstractions on top. With Linux "distros" this is true you get the kernel and a set of core utilitys as well as configurations and abstractions. Config frameworks (a much more verbose phrase imo) do not provide the base utility that is required you have to install them separately. If you check out the doom emacs readme it says "configuration framework". Instead of distro (github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs if you want to check it out).
i started stoping distro hopping when i meet arch linux. use it for 6 months and feels that i never would back hopping again. so a couple of weeks ago i needed to install manjaro, because I didn't have time to make mistakes installing arch, since that every customization that manjaro does in arch bothers me makes me want go back to arch. i don't even think about ubuntu based distros anymore
I’m relatively new to the command-line and been playing around in Zsh for a while. I have been thinking about trying out Fish, but do you also recommend/think Fish is the “best” shell for a dude on macOS? I was hoping to learn something from scratch.
Let me first say I love your videos DT, and thanks for the content! However, when you say "fake online friends," it's very common to have deep meaningful and productive (professionally and personally) relationships online. I get what you mean about getting up and away from the computer and being active, but it seems like DT has a certain perspective on the world and dismisses other perspectives off-hand. Some things just aren't for you, but might be good for others, and that's ok ;-)
I've been using the fish shell for about a year and a half or so now and it's defiantly my go to now, i have no problem with bash or zsh but fish just really makes life much easier.
Fish is incompatible with lots of .sh files since it lacks support for && and so on. This turns Zsh into fish: github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions
@@matthiasschuster9505 I already have the autosuggestions on zsh, fish is just more user friendly and easy to set up. Don't get me wrong Zsh is great and i use them all (bash, zsh and fish) from time to time. Just found myself going back to fish more often as of late.
so fish apparently is really a beginner-friendly shell. well that's good to know, but for now i don't use shell for advanced tasks.... and if i did, i'd probably try to stay posix-compliant since some shell skills in my opinion are more valid in posix because of its spread in the IT world. but yeah i can defo see how it might lure someone into the world of scripting.
This is exactly how I broke out of the distrohopping cycle. Although I didn't think it was the same becuase: I stuck with debian, but found out it was breaking too often becuase I saw a package not working because of onother package, and when i delete the "troublesome" package, Debian started deleting everything. This happened 3 Times! I got on to gentoo and stuck with that because it always stopped me from breaking the system, and even though it was hard at first, It was defintely worth it.
Hey DT! Sorry to bother you, just wanted to say that I admire FISH but I`m an old school fan of BASH, I like bash very much, I do my everyday work, It simplifies my life, very accustomed with it and don`t need at this time to move to something new! In my case can you agree with me ?
TheFatRat is probably the biggest music producer I know that creates free to use music. You can just have a look at the description of any of his songs. It's part of the reason why he is so popular since a lot of people like to use his songs in things like gaming montages
Re distro hopping my "daily driver" Linux distro journey looks somthing like 2003-2004 distrohopped 2004-2013 PCLinuxOS 2013-2014 distrohopped 2014-Aug 2020 Arch Linux Aug 2020 Debian (although considering KDE Neon) My second laptop runs FreeBSD which is gettin close to becoming my daily driver The one thing that they have in common is the minimal plasma desktop I have used for the past few years (using a tiling wm + minimal apps is soo 2006 - 2013 for me)
I didn’t like the vi mode in fish. In zsh I can complete auto suggestions by pressing “shift+a” which is baked into my muscle memory from vim. In fish I have to lift my hand and hit the right arrow to accept a completion... not very vim like. While I DO like the fish syntax and how clean it is, I still wouldn’t use it in scripting cause of the whole POSIX thing and worrying about how things translate. So far I haven’t seen fish do anything that oh-my-zsh doesn’t do. And like fish, oh-my-zsh is idiot proof... installing with a simple curl command and uncommenting whatever features you want in .zshrc. I still keep fish installed to play with sometimes, if anyone can share any cool features or plugins for fish worth looking at I’d love to look into it further. 🙏🏻
to just own the first comment id say : even linux distros are only configuration frameworks around the linux kernel (ok some use a specific variant or another of the kernel but still) EDiT: damn it dt mentioned that like one minute later..
Fish is great for interactive use. It's a shame that it's not POSIX-compliant, though. You want to run scripts in a simpler, faster shell anyway, so I suppose it's fine, but following the standard would still have been better.
You know I think you're onto something Derek. He should shave his head and wear a goatee and be a Linux enthusiast. Heck, he could even make his own distro and call it LeninOS🤣
Linux is technically just the OS kernel. A distribution is an opinionated packaging of everything else. A distribution of an editor with default options is not much different.
About fish: Incompatible with lots of bash scripts, the && is not supported and so on. Replacement: Zsh and this plugin github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions
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I tried Fish just for curiousity few days ago, and I immediately fell in love with it. It is very friendly out of the box.
I found I stopped Distrohopping when I started using my computers to do things instead of just playing around with different distributions. I know that doesn't sound like it makes sense, but installing linux is NOT actually doing anything. It's just installing software. It may be more complex or less complex, but it's still not really doing anything productive. Doing productive things feels completely different and it doesn't matter what distribution of linux you're using when you're doing things.
You grew up. ;)
Installing softwares and especially operating systems is something productive.
"I found I stopped Distrohopping when I started using my computers to do things instead of just playing around with different distributions."
Lol. Funny, but I never made Distrohopping, cuz I've actually used Linux as an OS. I mean rather to do stuff, not just play around with it. There are actually big chances that there are better options (distros) for me and stuff, but Xubuntu LTS is kinda fine for me and I'm too lazy to fine tune more "manual" distros.
And yeah, I would like to be sure that updates won't break my system.
@@gaiusbaltar7122 No, it's not. Using those software or os's to do something is productive. I can train a kid to install linux. Linus doesn't even really install linux himself anymore, he just has it done for him. That's the whole point. Linux is the means to an end, but it's not the end
@@JarrodHenry OS and software do not install themselves alone. Someone has to do it to make things work. Installing OS and softwares are part of the work of system administrators. Without this work, nobody can't do anything.
DT: "If you look like a normal person, people aren't going to take you seriously [making linux videos]."
Lmao ;)
What is this “girlfriend”? A new distro?
Yes, very unstable and can literally ruin your life after installation.
I'm a distrohopper too. And I it takes me hours to choose the right wallpaper. I can't take it anymore.
11:55 Actually you can reverse the commits until a given date and get the config files from 3 years ago
yep, right
Appreciated
10:40 The pain in DTs voice...
Great video man i've been binge watching your videos now im on qtile artix backing up my configs to go back to gentoo using gnu emacs and neovim because of your vids man your awesome man
Hey DT, thanks to you most of my machines are now on Linux, you are doing a great job. Love you
Google has over 7 years of data they have collected about me. In that time I have never even searched for women's beauty products. Why then am I getting ads for women's beauty products? Surely by this point Google, you would know that I'm interested in Technology and Gaming. I mean I'm only subscribed to 76 (and counting) different Gaming / Linux / Tech channels.
Then maybe you're doing a good job of protecting yourself?
@@Yuriyalloween I swear I didn't do it!
Maybe they figured you got a GF by now
adssettings.google.com/ will tell you why
10:00 that sounds like Linux for everyone and Jason!
you guys are not getting why fish is used at the first place,
main purpose of fish it to be a good INTERACTIVE shell, so if you already have a bunch of shell scripts, you dont have to rewrite them in fish, those scripts are run by bash or zsh interpreters specified in the beginning of each script, so fish has nothing to do with them.
Main advantages of fish is sane defaults, so it doesnt have all this junky unnecessary endif or esacs or whatever constructions are there for compatibillity) and it works out of the box without much configuration, and it is also super fast, you wont really notice any lags
Thanks DT for another interesting Ask DT video. Catch you in the next one.
You're not the only one that eventually got hornswoggled into watching life unfold in a terrarium. Stranger things have been known to happen. Some are even true.
Solus OS was the one for me. It ended my distro hopping for good. Very classy, yet humble.
Distro hopped in the 90s Yggdrasil, Slackware, Debian, Red Hat but settled on Debian after managing a flawless upgrade in place from a.out to elf executable format - it’s solid!
Hey DT, please insert timeline in this kind of video :)
Hey DT, I think video you are talking about is from the channel Cody's Lab! He has some interesting stuff.
I'm not a distro hopper, only a mad tinkerer lol. I partition my main drive. One partition is my home directory, which has all the . files as a backup (I have a backup of that on a separate physical drive). Another partition of my main drive is the distro installation, with which I can mess to my heart's content. Don't need online storage. :)
hey dt not a question
but can you make a full guide on ricing from wallpapers and font to compositors and quality of life things.
Honestly, I'd suggest just consulting the UNIX p*rn reddit and similar subs (also Arch Wiki ftw always). DT is an excellent resource in a comparison of the abundance of programs, but his ricing is minimal. They may not always be the most open and helpful community, but unless you absolutely need a video tutorial, there are extensive documentation that can help and already available videos if you were hoping to get your feet wet with it ASAP.
That said, aside from your personal inquiry, yes, I think there is a void that a detailed ricing video tutorial could fill (and @DT, by all means I think that could be an excellent video for you to create that could really help true noobies out). I just think you (the OP) seem already aware of the various facets of ricing and the general process, so probably not worth your time waiting for that.
@@MrGLum32 unix p*rn has a shit useless wiki and unfortunately most posts only list the names of packages. i would love a comprehensive and somewhat exhaustive guide.
@@MrGLum32 feel free to link me good documentation though 😳
@@_yuri Did you actually read the comment? I said Arch Wiki. UNIX P*rn is not for documentation, that's to consult the community. People are quite responsive and open to sharing their dot files. You could post literally the same thing there or in related subs and get a multitude of helpful responses. Anything DT would create would hardly be a comprehensive and exhaustive guide, which was my exact point. But go off bruh.
@@_yuri Literally my response was to try help you achieve your rice sooner than anything DT could remotely help you do by producing a video and would be a much more efficient use of your time. Would it be more intensive and require more from you? Sure, but the resources are readily available there to you, and I was just trying to point you in the right direction for your sake as opposed to waiting around for a video that is likely never going to actually be made. As I said to DT, sure, a basic guide could be helpful to get a real noob a fresh start, but you're not a total noob. Put in the work, dude.
Hey, DT! Is it possible to post timecodes to your videos, especially to the "Hey, DT!" ones? It would be much more convenient to look through the contents, to navigate throughout the video, and to jump directly to the questions in which one is interested. BTW: thank you for your work, your channel is awesome! I'm not the one who switched to Linux because of your videos, my schoolmate introduced me to Linux in early 2000's when I myself was a schoolboy, but I've learned a lot of useful stuff thanks to your channel.
I've landed on Pop OS and pretty much have no intention of changing in the near future--although I have experienced some temptation lately, which I am devoutly resisting.
My advice: figure out what it is you really want, and what distro has it. Then, the next time you get tempted to hop, compare where you are now with where you are thinking about going.
Now, needs and wants can change--that's normal. But keep that base line in mind. You almost have to design your move in the same way you would design a program. Why did I move to the distro I am on now? Do those reasons still hold? Will the new distro do the same things the current one does? Will it do them better? Will the difference be enough to overcome the work requirement of moving? And those questions are aside from the practical requirements of hardware performance, drivers, etc.
Just ask yourself if it's really worth the investment of time and effort. If you just want something new and shiny, customizing your current distro will be a LOT easier than switching.
It's good that you are touching the "distribution" term. I am a bit shocked how many new IT people actually cannot describe what is distribution, what is OS, it's main characteristics and purpose. It might sounds funny for you but that's my experience with a lot young bright people. I thing the issue is in the layers upon layers of abstractions and UI stuff, even in the *nix world last 15 years. People are little bit off the core and how the system is actually functioning. Great job with your channel, wish you all the best!
Hey, DT how bout another gentoo video I really enjoyed the other one and i'm kindof a gentoo fan
Who isn't a gentoo fan... even if you dont use it.
@@eli1882 Yeah for me it kind of seemed people hated it because when ever they did a gentoo video they complained about the compile times and i'm like thats kind of the point of gentoo
@@masteradams2411 The problem is I can't install it on my toaster without setting the house on fire
Hi DT! Related to people asking for config files like they were X days/weeks/months/years ago, being their changes-history stored in a git repo it's easy. You only have to use git to 'travel back in time' to the point where the config you are searching for is the one you like. It is something like searching the commit you want with 'git log ...' and then doing a 'git checkout ....' or even a 'git show ...'
Hey DT. Unrelated question, but I hope you see it and respond anyway. Between ArchLabs, ArchBang, Mabox and clean Arch with an Openbox wm, which one would you prefer. You could also rank them from 1 to 4. Thanks for everything you do, man.
Ok, the Linux guy stereo type made me laugh pretty hard. That was good. "Maybe you even have a girlfriend"
Oh, and on the Music front, there has been an effort to automate the generation of ALL the melodies possible and copyright them all under creative commons AND an open source license (I don't remember which one) for the auto software itself. The idea is to make it impossible for big Music to keep limiting music to the same couple of melodies.
I can't stand the sensation of hair in my face 😂 I consider getting rid of my hair recently though. Does that make me more of a nerd?
Wow! fish actually kicks ass! I have never used it before, cool!
I’ve been using fish for more than 6 months and it’s awesome.
Hey, DT, I got the Terrarium video earlier today, too.
A. Hey DT Do you think knowing the 7 major distribution families help you understand Linux and and help you provide technical support for Linux?
B. The 8 Major Distribution Families Are.
1. Arch
2. Debian
3. Fedora
4. Gentoo
5. Slackware
6. openSUSÉ
7. Ubuntu
8. Independent Distributions
C. Mr. DT please continue to get on life's stage and let your Godly inner light shine. Please continue to climb life's ladder and let the world see The Great and Wonderful Gifts, Talents, and Treasures that are inside of you.
D. Mr. DT You're a Great Gentleman!!!
E. Mr. DT Please stay safe.
F. Mr. DT God Bless You!!!
Lol 10:50 was directed at @LukeSmith 🤣
I was wondering how no one pointed it out in the comments
@@nykal1510 hate collaboration is profitable
ZSH has everything fish has and is closer to bash. Also is super fast, especially with zinit. Fish plugins, zsh plugins, there's no functional benefit to fish I see. I used fish a for a long time before realizing ZSH is more sensible in a world filled with bash scripts. There's a ZSH plugin for everything.
I've stopped distro hopping after installing Arch because it took me a lot of time to configure it according to my needs and now i don't want those efforts to go waste just for the sake of trying another distro...😂
now I window manager hop...😅 hope will get out of this soon as well
Re: distrohopping; I’m roughly a week and a half into using Linux and I’m pretty certain I’m not going to hop until further down the road. Not because I think my distro is perfect, but because I grew up on MS-DOS, Windows, and Macintosh; where you can’t really configure the workspace and DE to fit your work flow, but the OS reconfigures your workflow to how it’s built. I’m still figuring out my workflow, even if it’s just TH-cam, discord, porn, casual gaming, and writing, so I won’t know how a distro or desktop environment or window manager will click with my needs until I know what they actually are.
Also, I did my research and knew that I wanted a lightweight, flexible, and noob-friendly distro that would work on a barely upgraded 10 year old laptop that would get me a touch of pretentiousness, so Manjaro-xfce seems like a good choice so far.
Great vid's, enjoying learning new things.. I started with Linux back in '93 or 94 (think Slackware disksets!), been earning a living with it since '98 in corporate environments, time to find new things to fool with gets scarce. (most of the time with a goatee (choice) and bald (no choice)). Thanks for your effort in finding new things to play with, keep it going!
My problem with fish is that it's purposefully non posix compliant.
That's what kills it for me.
I couldn't agree more about Distro Hopping. You do tend to tire of it and only do it when something goes radically wrong. Usually I am doing a reinstall of a current Distro because I have broken it. As for saving config files, I have never tried that and don't think I ever saw any videos on how to properly do it (hint, hint). As much as I am not a newbie to Linux, there are things I have yet to attempt. That because we know, Linux has to hurt a little bit, especially when learning. Thanks DT!
Can confirm, fish is wonderful. I can install my powerline prompt with 3 words, and it just works. I start typing a command and 95% of the time it is auto completed to what I wanted to type. I never realized how nice it is until I want back to bash and immediate wanted to cry.
3:02 F is for friends who do stuff together~
How am I the first one to make this reference. I don't even watch spongebob xD
RE: Distro hopping - Just use Arch or an Arch based distro and give it a fair amount of time before switching. I don't want to use anything else at this point.;
I am in the process of hopping from arch to nixos...have been an arch user for a number of years now.
@@brendanhansknecht4650 I tried NixOS recently, wanted something like guix but with non-free kernel drivers. Wasn't disappointed, however I don't like the non standard folder structure they use. Going to look into making custom arch isos for quick installation instead.
@@etherweb6796 because I regular do software development that leads to annoying dependencies and conflicts, I am excited to try nix. Also, I have been lazy about config management and plan to set that all up with nixos.
@@brendanhansknecht4650 heh, that is why I was trying out nixOS myself - being able to change configurations on the fly for software development. Most unfortunately for me, I already have a general setup and configuration I use for my workstation, and achieving something similar in NixOS seems to be a lot more work - you save time with the configuration.nix file as to what gets installed, but you also configure everything in .nix files as well - So things like the I3 window manager or alacritty terminal (both of which have excellent config file formats, and can be updated while running) would require additional .nix config files and then also an environment update to change the config. As it is, I've decided to stick with Arch on my workstation - but I might give NixOS another try on a laptop or something
I decided to start modding my fish shell a bit thanks to videos like this.
Right now it's pretty basic, just using those fancy chevron arrows and a bit of simple logic.
Account name - displays white if user has write access to current working directory, otherwise is black
Full path, with home replaced by ~
Last command's exit code if non-zero
I hopped from Ubuntu, to Debian stable, to Debian Testing, and then to Arch Linux which I've been on for about 6 months. I also ran Linux Mint Debian Edition on my laptop for a period of time during the summer before installing Arch Linux on it. I stopped hopping when I found that the availability of software that can be easily installed on Arch Linux is vast when you include the AUR. To satisfy my urge to distro hop, I boot from a live usb or run a virtual machine to check out what's new in a distribution. For new users interested in Linux, I would choose between Linux Mint and Pop! OS and don't look elsewhere unless you have a very specific reason for choosing a distribution like wanting to be in the Red Hat ecosystem with Fedora.
8:12 I got that video recommended as well! XD The algorithm lately recommends a lot of random stuff. The Olympics jump recommendation is becoming more of a meme lately.
Been on arch for the last few years but moved over to nixos a month or so ago. Like the fact it has a heap of packages in the repo and has binary cache for them but also has the ability to customize packages and build them like in gentoo.
I watched the same video (8:30) and it was surprisingly interesting.
CTT has mentioned that distro doesn't matter, thank you for explaining that it doesn't matter once you focus on the command line. -But I can't take commands from Ubuntu or Debian support and use it in Manjaro.
The terrarium video appeared for me too.
in fish you can just do _alt + s_ to repeat the last command with sudo, it's even quicker than bash's _!!_
First of all, bald with a goatee is mandatory for good Linux content.
Second, I investigated ZSH since all the guys at work are on Macs. ZSH is the default shell.
My opinion: Fish is more intuitive.
Thirdly, most of us use either Slack or Telegram at work. We spend all day chatting about work and non work related stuff. This is why so many of us are comfortable with online chat.
I have run Linux servers for years, for an internet service/voip/hosting company. I recently was asked by a client I am building a fax server for what linux distro I wanted him to load on the server. I literally told him I don't care. Pick a distro that is Debian or Redhat based and load it, and make sure it has ssh. He ended up loading it with Megeia, I think to mess with me. DT you are totally right that once you are under the hood, with the exception of some distro specific config file locations, they are all pretty much the same.
Hello, would it be possible to add the Questions with their Answer starting times to the Video Description section? Thank you.
OMG THE OTHER DAY I GOT RECOMMENDED THAT VIDEO OF THE AQUARIUM THING AND I WATCHED IT TOO
If the dotfile was versioned at the robe of the video recording (re: config from old video), you should be able to check out an old version from that time!
You see this, Luke Smith, it's not a joke, DT likes fish...
There's absolutely no reason not to call vim and Emacs distributions »distributions«. In all, they are customized packages of the underlying software products. They come ready to use out of the box, just like any Linux distribution. And just like any Linux distribution, you may choose to further tweak them to your liking, or not. The term »distribution« should not be limited to packages based on the Linux kernel that form a usable operating system. I think DT gets that right. Personally, I use neovim, and despite the fact that it's basically an optimization of the original vim source, I even think of it as a vim distribution, just as much as I consider DOOM a distribution of Emacs, and it's a great one. The only distribution of Emacs that I actually consider using.
As for shells, I still prefer zsh. However, I have customized it a bit to match some of the properties that FISH offers. In essence, I use zsh-completions to enhance the out-of-the-box completion feature, and the zsh-syntax-highlighting package, which I enjoy a lot. This basically offers autocomlete for most recent commands as well as syntax highlighting. One feature I enjoy about the highlighting is that in addition to highlighting invalid commands in red, it also dynamically renders a bold font; valid commands are highlighted in green, operators are highlighted in purple, and quoted strings are highlighted in yellow. I assume the latter two are based on the terminal theme.
fish is really nice, i tried so hard making zsh feel like fish, i came too close but it didn't feel as snappy, don't use fish remotely though because it is slower in this particular case. If you miss ctrl+r checkout fish re-search plugin
Did you use this?
github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions
could try also if you haven't: github.com/zdharma/fast-syntax-highlighting
Git actually saves history so for the situation of wanting an old config from years ago just go to a commit from three years ago. On thing you could do when making such videos is creating tags. Just put a tag on your dotfile repo with the video name or something. Just a tip :)
I like Void or Devuan, been hopping back and forth a bit but Void has sticked the longest on my laptop, it works very well. Usually using OpenBSD utilities so I have Korn shell on my laptop, it's nice.
I only seriously use 2 distros these days. Arch and Debian. Arch on my main machine, and Debian on those that i don't spend much time on myself like my son's laptop. I need that to be stable and predictable, so that i don't have to pay much attention to it for him. My own rig however i like to keep bleeding edge for my gaming mostly, and i also don't mind to tinker under the hood.
One of the huge cons of fish (for me) is that it doesn't autocomplete packages. If they parse man pages for completion, why not use bash and zsh completions as well ? It would be fantastic
A distribution suggests that the core program (Emacs Linux vim) are packaged with the abstractions on top. With Linux "distros" this is true you get the kernel and a set of core utilitys as well as configurations and abstractions. Config frameworks (a much more verbose phrase imo) do not provide the base utility that is required you have to install them separately. If you check out the doom emacs readme it says "configuration framework". Instead of distro (github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs if you want to check it out).
DT pls grow a mullet
i started stoping distro hopping when i meet arch linux. use it for 6 months and feels that i never would back hopping again. so a couple of weeks ago i needed to install manjaro, because I didn't have time to make mistakes installing arch, since that every customization that manjaro does in arch bothers me makes me want go back to arch. i don't even think about ubuntu based distros anymore
I’m relatively new to the command-line and been playing around in Zsh for a while. I have been thinking about trying out Fish, but do you also recommend/think Fish is the “best” shell for a dude on macOS? I was hoping to learn something from scratch.
Hey DT, do your config files only work if I'm bald?
I saw the terrarium video as well 😁.
And yeah DT is not bald!!
So question about music making with FOSS apps remains unanswered. All right
Let me first say I love your videos DT, and thanks for the content! However, when you say "fake online friends," it's very common to have deep meaningful and productive (professionally and personally) relationships online. I get what you mean about getting up and away from the computer and being active, but it seems like DT has a certain perspective on the world and dismisses other perspectives off-hand. Some things just aren't for you, but might be good for others, and that's ok ;-)
I've been using the fish shell for about a year and a half or so now and it's defiantly my go to now, i have no problem with bash or zsh but fish just really makes life much easier.
Fish is incompatible with lots of .sh files since it lacks support for && and so on.
This turns Zsh into fish: github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions
@@matthiasschuster9505 I already have the autosuggestions on zsh, fish is just more user friendly and easy to set up. Don't get me wrong Zsh is great and i use them all (bash, zsh and fish) from time to time. Just found myself going back to fish more often as of late.
You could say that a linux distro is a framework for configuring a linux os
so fish apparently is really a beginner-friendly shell. well that's good to know, but for now i don't use shell for advanced tasks.... and if i did, i'd probably try to stay posix-compliant since some shell skills in my opinion are more valid in posix because of its spread in the IT world. but yeah i can defo see how it might lure someone into the world of scripting.
This is exactly how I broke out of the distrohopping cycle. Although I didn't think it was the same becuase: I stuck with debian, but found out it was breaking too often becuase I saw a package not working because of onother package, and when i delete the "troublesome" package, Debian started deleting everything. This happened 3 Times! I got on to gentoo and stuck with that because it always stopped me from breaking the system, and even though it was hard at first, It was defintely worth it.
How to stop distro hopping: Install arch
Hey DT! Sorry to bother you, just wanted to say that I admire FISH but I`m an old school fan of BASH, I like bash very much, I do my everyday work, It simplifies my life, very accustomed with it and don`t need at this time to move to something new! In my case can you agree with me ?
Starship (cross-shell prompt) + Zsh + git,zsh-autosuggestions
Fast and complete IMHO.
TheFatRat is probably the biggest music producer I know that creates free to use music. You can just have a look at the description of any of his songs.
It's part of the reason why he is so popular since a lot of people like to use his songs in things like gaming montages
Re distro hopping
my "daily driver" Linux distro journey looks somthing like
2003-2004 distrohopped
2004-2013 PCLinuxOS
2013-2014 distrohopped
2014-Aug 2020 Arch Linux
Aug 2020 Debian (although considering KDE Neon)
My second laptop runs FreeBSD which is gettin close to becoming my daily driver
The one thing that they have in common is the minimal plasma desktop I have used for the past few years (using a tiling wm + minimal apps is soo 2006 - 2013 for me)
hey DT, i want to get rid of jetbrains ide's, should i use spacevim, spacemacs or doom-emacs?
12:39 i have seen you in the doom emacs discord a couple times. lies
Hey DT could you please make a video on Home manager ?
got to know it's good for managing dotfiles.
pressing ALT+S in fish is similar to "sudo !!" in bash.
Sup Big Pun? Or is it Ganstalicious?
I love fish but I am vegetarian 😂
I really like tuna but I can't eat them anymore.
Oh, "Hey DT" - I heard "Hate ET"
I didn’t like the vi mode in fish. In zsh I can complete auto suggestions by pressing “shift+a” which is baked into my muscle memory from vim. In fish I have to lift my hand and hit the right arrow to accept a completion... not very vim like.
While I DO like the fish syntax and how clean it is, I still wouldn’t use it in scripting cause of the whole POSIX thing and worrying about how things translate.
So far I haven’t seen fish do anything that oh-my-zsh doesn’t do. And like fish, oh-my-zsh is idiot proof... installing with a simple curl command and uncommenting whatever features you want in .zshrc.
I still keep fish installed to play with sometimes, if anyone can share any cool features or plugins for fish worth looking at I’d love to look into it further. 🙏🏻
to just own the first comment id say : even linux distros are only configuration frameworks around the linux kernel (ok some use a specific variant or another of the kernel but still)
EDiT: damn it dt mentioned that like one minute later..
hey dt, what do you think about system76 laptops ?
Fish is great for interactive use. It's a shame that it's not POSIX-compliant, though. You want to run scripts in a simpler, faster shell anyway, so I suppose it's fine, but following the standard would still have been better.
So what you're saying is that all the people who do Linux videos should look like beatniks? Dobie Gillis Linux
You know I think you're onto something Derek. He should shave his head and wear a goatee and be a Linux enthusiast. Heck, he could even make his own distro and call it LeninOS🤣
Linux is technically just the OS kernel. A distribution is an opinionated packaging of everything else. A distribution of an editor with default options is not much different.
google can't recommend anything to me because I'm de-googled ))
About fish: Incompatible with lots of bash scripts, the && is not supported and so on.
Replacement: Zsh and this plugin
github.com/zsh-users/zsh-autosuggestions
I use the RC shell, just got the prompt working and am setting up completions.
fish is amazing
10:20 I thought of Wolfgang's channel...
Xubuntu is the best.
xfce is the best.
But you haven't told us why you like to shave your head?