🎵 Peter Gabriel - Games Without Frontiers REACTION
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Probably my favorite song by him. He’s such an innovative artist and he’s always been next level with his creativity. I never get tired of this song or of him. He’s just really cool too!
No one else was doing anything like this in 1980. Other than maybe his backup singer.
Arguably on the level of Bowie.
Dang, I never knew this was Peter Gabriel. He just tries so many different things.
Great song but Salisbury hill is the shit!
@@jasonokinawa6596 Yes and that whole first Gabriel album is a great one ! His best one I think.
Peter Gabriel is kind of the definition of eccentric music artist. He would always push new boundaries and use various influences.
Especially in his Genesis era
This song should have been more widely known, is such a great song.
Gabriel is playing with imagery of children's games mixed with imagery of war. The reference to the game show is an overt one, but underneath it is a serious subject. The names he lists remind us of combatants in the second world war. Suki plays with Leo, Sasha plays with Brit (USSR and England?), Adolf builds a bonfire, Enrico plays with it (Hitler and Mussolini?). The flags are symbols of patriotism and the hills possession of territory/wealth, but Lin T'ai Yu has none.
The games without frontiers themselves could be the game of diplomacy, but maybe also nuclear war, which could strike anyone anywhere. Both are forms of war without tears.
Jeux Sans Frontieres were athletic games in Europe, similar to The Pan Am Games, designed to relax international tensions during the Cold War era.
@@jollyrodgers7272 you get it!
@@jollyrodgers7272 It was called 'It's a Knockout' in the UK which gets a mention as it would be the version Peter knew.
There we go, but I'm pretty sure "Enrico" is a reference to J. Robert Oppenheimer, the "father of the atomic bomb".
To me that makes more sense.
This is the gist of it
Peter Gabriel really is a musical genius. he has proven it over and over.
Awesome! Kate Bush sings the background vocals -- "Jeux sans frontières..."
In Europe we had a fun games series called ""It's a knockout" ,- but it was called Jeux sans frontier . Games without frontiers -There is also an organisation originally French called Medicines sans frontiers, who send doctors into conflict zones to help people. As someone else has noted it's anti war. Peter Gabriel has come up with some genius music in his career - He was originally with Genesis
Oh, that is where the 'It's a knockout' is from. Thanks. Usually even Peter's 'throw away lines' have meaning.
Very well described. I'd just add that the video features footage of the 1936 Berlin Olympics - Hitler's games - just to make the parallel even clearer.
@@simonround2439 Autocrats become skilled in using anything for their propaganda. It numbs us to their absurd ideas. Apparently an old trick....
“Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
What a great show. It's a knockout!
It's a knockout, only us city fans could have a great presenter and city fan who's funny in Stuart hall.
And he turns out to be a right shady bastard fiddler..🤨
Shock the Monkey is another classic.
That's how creative he tried too be sledge hammer and your eyes
It's about war ... how its maneuvers & endeavors are about as sincere & as beneficial as little children playing 'cops & robbers.' Those who oversee its strategies - the generals, presidents, chancellors, etc., see war as a mere game to keep themselves distracted & amused, despite the millions of lives at stake. ♡
Great Take. Thanks !
and it features the one and only Kate Bush.
@@Hornswoop Does it really?! All this time & I had no idea! Thanks! ♡
@@semchen9 Thank 𝐲𝐨𝐮. ♡
@@EC-dz3fb yes, she does the backing vocals
🤘 🤘 Peter face melting Gabriel!
Don't question Lex's choice of beans!!!
"I'm not qualified to interprit that", You should get that printed on a T-Shirt Lol :)
The song is about war & diplomacy being like children's games. It's an anti-war song. The parts with the kids ducking down are parts of a movie they showed us in school during Cold War era, early 1960's, called "Duck & Cover". It was showing us what to do if a bomb went off & how we were to protect ourselves. Yeah, right!
1936 Olympics. You’re on the right track but didn’t hit the button
This was the first music I bought. 50p. That's Kate Bush singing 'Jeux sans frontières'. In the UK the game show was called 'It's a Knockout'. It was people from countries competing against each other in silly events dressed up in costumes that hampered their ability to do the event.
There are no words to describe how amazing this song is. It's just on a whole nother plane of existence.
The repetitive line "Jeux sans frontiere" (Games without frontiers) sung by Kate Bush takes this from an average song to an exceptional one. The song is an extended analogy, taking a popular 70s European game show, where teams from competing towns would dress up in silly costumes and compete in even more silly physical races, and contrasting that with real conflicts. "It's a knockout" was the UK title for the show.
To give you an idea, here is a short compilation of the silliness. The two presenters are the late Eddie Waring and the disgraced and imprisoned Stuart Hall - the least said about that, the better: th-cam.com/video/UX19iWZnUZ8/w-d-xo.html
I have learned so much of this comment! thank you!
Nice comment!
@UCPWIKBls0Ai74G-hgxRnMeA It does sound like that! It took me quite a long time listening to the song, when it first came out, before the penny dropped and I realised what she was singing!
I knew Jeux sans frontiere ( Games without frontiers) and the song was about war, sorta kinda, but not much else. Thanks for the insight.
I use to watch jeux sans fronteirs in the 80s and 90s has a kid , it was on every summer.
She's so happy now
Even though it's in French, I've always thought it was 'She's So Funky Now' I'll never not hear that.
I always thought it was "She's so Popular"
My favorite Peter Gabriel!
It's about games in the 60s between teams from around Europe
Peter is so unique and cool.
As a kid I always thought she was saying (I thought it was Peter singing though), "She's, so funky now.".
It is Art rock. Peter Gabriel is a genius. I've been listening to this one for 30 years. still no clue what its about lol
classic from that era
I used to watch a show in the UK in the '70s called "It's a Knockout!" where international teams played these games usually involving races incorporating weird contraptions. It was part of a franchise called Jeux sans Frontières (French for Games Without Frontiers) -- that's the chorus of this song. This song came out during the Cold War when a lot of people lived in fear of a nuclear World War III and it's an anti-war song comparing children's games with international politics and war.
In addition to all the other comments referencing the game show, the lyrics also play as a metaphor of children playing conflict or combat games, that eventually evolves into adult games of actual war.
I thought it could be about 4th and 5th gen warfare
Another great sound from Gabriel. 'Jeux sans frontiere' was a show on TV where teams from different European countries competed in stupid games against each other. It was called 'It's a Knock-out' in English.
Gabriel is a creative genius! I've seen him 5 times since 1983. He puts most other artists to shame! This was a huge hit for him.
She's so FUNKY now!
Brad & Lex, you’ll love his "I Don't Remember" and "Biko" !!! edit- Awaiting your posting of "Solsbury Hill" from your live stream!
Finally!!! Someone on here who would love to hear these other amazing songs 🔥
biko, good choice
Yes but... in the same time, if they don't know (and don't search) for the context... it will be nothing but listening music without knowing what it's all about...
There is so much to learn about P.G. (and many other artists) that those young people will never catch... It's a little shame. But time keeps turning.
"I Don't Remember" is amazing. And the studio version should be played, NOT the live version.
i love "biko." i think it's his most powerful work.
Cold War influenced song. Remember the times. If Looks could kill is a comment on how ppl can be forced to see other ppl with malice tho they don't know them at all.
Solsbury Hill is in my all-time top ten, looking forward to that...
One of my favorites from him
An artistic take on and comparison of abrasive childhood games and the Cold War. One of my favorites from Peter. Love his early solo stuff. So many artists covered the tension, fear and sense of power during the eighties, which stemmed from the Cold War. It weighed so heavily on every society, culture and country. It didn't begin to dissipate until the fall of the Soviet Union and the bringing down of the Berlin wall. ✌️
My only explanation is...
It's Peter Gabriel.
Peter Gabriel is a pure pop legend. So many great songs. Good memories too. Great voice. Even his scream which you may hear in certain songs of his is quite legendary I feel !
This is a very dark song if you pay attention to the Lyrics. The threat of the Cold War and Nuclear War when this sing was released was very real back in the 80's.
Lol, I always thought she was saying “she’s so popular” apparently it’s just something in French
I still have that tape. Excellent.
I went right to this vid just to see Brad trying to figure out Kate’s French… haha!
Brad and Lex it’s so much fun (and really interesting) watching you, as Millennials, trying to make sense of our, Gen X, Cold War songs! ❤️
They do nothing in this.
@@starrynight1657 I've been going through the comments and it seems that they're not even interested in responding to anyone.
Peter Gabriel truly walks his own path. He is amazing in his concerts, very talented and worth a listen. His concert in the round was great. He was in Genesis, with Phil Collins, to start with. Great Reaction. Song is about war.
Peter Gabriel form Genesis and Phil Collins wasn't in the original band
@@dmead4106 Well, that's like saying David Gilmour wasn't in the original lineup of Pink Floyd. It's technically true, but they both joined their respective bands on their second albums, and were a critical member ever since.
@@mournblade1066 yeah they fired Sid and hired Gilmore and Pink Floyd is better afterwards Phil Collins join Genesis Peter Gabriel leaves, how they do with Phil Collins running the show.
Names used were world leaders and notables. I.E. "Adolf builds a bonfire, Enrico plays with it." Adolph being THAT one (who started the development of the atomic bomb) and Enrico Fermi being one of the men behind the allied final completion of it.
Hmmm.. first time I heard that explanation. I always saw it as being Adolf Hitler and Enrico Mussolini i.e. AH starting the war and Enrico joining hoping to get something out of it for Italy. That also ties in with the fact that the game show was one of those post war initiatives (like the Eurovision Song Contest) to bring a war torn continent together by using the medium of television. The fact that this war was possible was pretty much because French hardly had any person-to-person contact in daily life with Germans, Germans hardly with Brits etc. etc. TV and economic prosperty resulting in tourism basically fixed all of that.
@@ChrisEchoes Benito?
@@TheRealMirCat Damn, you are right ... How on earth did I forget Mussolini first name is Benito and not Enrico.
Artist speak thank you Brad I needed that 🎶
"That's like artist speak. I'm not qualified to interpret that." Love it.
It will always be “She’s so funky, yeah!” to me! 🤣🤣🤣
Brad/Lex -- Peter Gabriel was the singer for Genisis before Phil Collins. My favorite from that era was "Carpet Crawlers"
The voice was saying "Jeux sans frontieres" - French for games without frontiers.
In the 60s/70s there was a TV competition involving the UK and European countries where they would dress up in silly costumes and play silly games against each other ... all very silly and very entertaining.
In the UK towns would enter a team and would compete against two other UK towns. These were the heats and the UK TV programme was called 'Its' A Knockout'. The winning teams in these heats would go on to compete against a lot of other teams from European towns (Swiss, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Austrian and more).
The highest scoring team from each country would go through to a final big competition .... lots more silly games and ridiculous costumes to play them in.
It could get quite heated and of course there were always international rivalries ... but playing silly games was a far better way to work out the differences etc than having another war.
So "Jeux sans Frontieres" (or "Games Without Frontiers") = war without tears.
And almost invariably the UK team would lose. I think we won one international in all the seasons we competed.
@@paulqueripel3493 Absolutely. I blamed it on the silly costumes with huge feet that made it impossible to run 🤣 some countries wore shoes like those most of the time and it gave them an unfair advantage. 🤪😁
In many ways the 21st century is crying out for a reboot of this but, equally, you can imagine it becoming mired in controversy and politicised. It's very sad that we now seem to live in a world where the harmless, hilarious fun that programmes like Jeux Sans Frontieres provided no longer seem viable. Definitely a sign of the times.
My thanks. I've wondered about this one since 1978. Never got in the way of digging an awesome song, tho.
@@paulqueripel3493 If you look at the Wikipedia page for Jeux Sans Frontieres, the UK actually won 4 times in 16 attempts. Germany won the most with 6 victories from 16, so we weren't as bad as you remember! Italy won 4 out of 30 and France 3 from 25!
Peter Gabriel is one unique artist for sure. Creative genius since day one fronting the band Genesis. He can go from the most delicate ballads to freaking you the hell out...in a good way. Moribund The Burgermeister is my favorite "out there" Gabriel tune.
Have to check that song out if only for the title. I see rotting hamburger in my mind's eye.
Oh, that is a phenomenal song. It has such a menacing musical sound: “And I will find YOU!”
The lyric repeated at the beginning and end is "jeux sans frontieres," which is French for "games without frontiers."
New Wave. Peter Gabriel innovated much of the music produced by others that followed his releases.
Jeux Sans Frontiere (Games without Frontiers) was a silly European game show in which teams from different countries competed. In the UK it was called It's a Knock-Out, for some reason. Anyway, PG evidently saw this as a metaphor for war, and folded into that the idea that kids' games are often warlike too, a sort of rehearsal for the real thing. All the kids who are playing in the lyrics have names suggesting different countries... So it's about the human propensity for war existing even in the innocence of childhood, I think.
The guitar in this track is sublime! Peter Gabriel is the true king of pop
I should have puffed a little more, cuz he's out there. Thanks for the obscure tunes guys
It's his commentary on war. The words you can't understand are sung by Kate Bush, "Jeax sans frontieres" or Games Without Frontiers.
Masterpiece!
love this song
I gave been a fab of Peter Gabriel going back to his Genesis days. But he has always brought a bit of musical oddness to his music.
"That voice" was the great Kate Bush singing the title, Games Without Frontiers, in French: "Jeux sans frontieres"
Rundgren, Bowie & Gabriel are my favorite solo artists. You never know what to expect. Eclectic genius.
Adolph (Hilter) builds a bonfire, Enrico (Fermi) plays with it.
He does the goose step when he sings it live
Lex you brighten my day. Best wishes from the UK.
Interesting how some songs lose their meaning from generation to generation because it requires knowledge of the historical context. Every Generation Xer immediately knew what this song was about. We grew up during the Cold War under the constant threat of nuclear annihilation. The images shown in the video depicted what was happening all around us. The athletic shots were a nod to how the Soviet Bloc used sports to fuel patriotism. The West did it in other ways.
But don't you feel anyone with a reasonable sense of history and some global affairs literacy should be able to make sense of this? Maybe that's asking too much in this Instagram/Facebook/app-centric age
@@sujatabose7983 I completely get what GoWest is saying...GenXer myself and that's exactly how I remember the vibe of this song. As for you Sujata, overall your expectations are on the money, and well... your answer is too, sadly.
Crazy this came on the radio earlier today as I was driving for work. Left it on bc I hadn’t listened to it in years
you're on it brad its very artistic....its wonderful
I could listen to Lex's description of songs all day. "If you took an empty can and put some beans in it". Classic!
Love it my favorite song by him that's why I picked it
Yes, the background vocals are Kate Bush.
ok you guys been back into my boxes of vinyl singles again, this was popular again because it was DIFFERENT.. very opposite of whats dished up today, kudos Gabriel and of course Kate Bush
Don't know if anyone has said already, but he was the original singer for the band Genesis... Early stuff prog rock... He's always been a trip though, but cool👍
One of my favorite songs ever. Perfectly artistic
As always Lex, you never fail to properly describe sound that hits your ears through music! lol All I can think of now are pinto beans, trash cans and rats! Gabriel is a deep rabbit hole and dont forget to check out his early work with Genesis in the 70s, if you want something to spank your minds! :) Great reaction, guys!
They could never wrap their heads around his Genesis work…
@@vrvaughn LOL (you may be right) Let's throw Supper's Ready at them. Head popping!
Time for Firth of Fifth!
@@rk41gator I can see Brad already 😵💫
@@vrvaughn LOL
"Games Without Frontiers" is a song written and recorded by English rock musician Peter Gabriel. It was released on his 1980 self-titled solo album, where it included backing vocals by Kate Bush. The song's lyrics are interpreted as a commentary on war and international diplomacy being like children's games. The video includes film clips of Olympic events and scenes from the 1951 educational film Duck and Cover, which used a cartoon turtle to instruct US schoolchildren on what to do in case of nuclear attack. This forlorn imagery tends to reinforce the song's anti-war theme. Two different versions of the music video were initially created for the song, followed by a third one made in 2004.
Everyone else says he's talking about an old competition show in Europe. But what you said sounds smart too😜
Quite right, but let us note here that this is not the original version of the video. The original had many scenes of pubescent children around a formal dining table, dressed up in glamorous clothing and jewelry, behaving like bored, spoiled adults who behave like children. These scenes would today probably risk being labelled as child exploitation, so perhaps this is why the WWII footage and the modern digitally manipulated pattern footage were used, instead.
The great American Education system on full display here with these two, lol.
This always reminded me of that Star Trek episode from the original series, where the two planets had these virtual war games but when their game bombs hit the other, the citizens from the area hit were required to go into disintegration chambers to die. New frontiers in war.
RIP Uhura.
French phrase jeux sans frontieres is games without frontiers.
@@oakhillfound847 ? Why are you posting that to my comment? First of all, it's already been posted about ten times before this. Secondly, it's easy enough to figure out. I don't know what jeux means but sans is a pretty command word for without and frontieres is pretty obvious. Thirdly, my comment is nothing about the phrase.
@@debjorgo I don't know either, but I just figured out Peter Gabriel is singing that line in French when it sounds like he is saying "she's so funky yeah" in falsetto voice at the end.
I just saw that episode of Star Trek last night - it was one of the more interesting episodes I've seen. Demonstrates the absurdities of cycles of war.
One of the best little weird songs I've ever heard. Love it.
This is the first real artist that was totally embraced by new sounds. His experimental music at the time. Very Bowie.
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A Pinto bean is, very, specific!
This kind of baffled them 😆. Well, Brad caught on later and got it right. They are too young to get it all tho. They had to be there. This is understood mostly by our generation, Generation X as we were children or teens or young adults during the '80s. Cold War references. Paranoia of nuclear attacks. It was all over our music, movies, shows etc back when I was a child in the '80s. We used to have bomb shelter drills at school, crazy. This video freaked us out when we were young. There's another video for this, similar but had kids and baby dolls. Kind of synth pop new wave is this song and some of his other songs. "Shock the Monkey" video is nuts, too. Kate Bush is in background singing, she sang with Peter Gabriel often.
Definitely has the knack for very deep meanings while making it sound much lighter.
She's so pop u lar.
If you grew up during the cold war than this video makes a lot of sense.
A MUST HEAR,, After The Fire "Der Kommissar"..TRUST ME!!
Thank all of you for the posts to help me understand the meaning. I knew it was about war, but I only thought of it as the creative frontiers of the minds of children. Their play war games end with no tears. Now I have deeper context. I love this song!
Chorus “Jeux sans frontières” (French) = “Games without frontiers” = War.
Thanks for that!
Willie is happy again,,,,👍👍👍🤪
Dad would listen to this song before I could understand what the lyrics meant, but I could feel the meaning. And it was this song playing in my childhood that made me realize I couldn’t whistle. I’m 48 now and I still try my hardest to whistle anytime this song comes on. 😢
This may be about WAR I BELIEVE
Check out Peter Gabriel’s, “In Your Eyes” studio version and then live version. Excellent song.
Its french. Jeux sans frontières, (Games Without Borders). Its a game show. In England it was known as its a knockout. Teams competed against each other in rather daft games. The best teams from each country, would compete with each other in a Europe wide contest. Like a war but with no deaths. The idea in the song, is that this friendly knockabout is all wrapped up in the potential for nuclear war to start at any time.
Spot on!
Kate Bush on backing vocals
THE AMERICANS!
When this song came out I must have heard the version of Gabriel singing it in German fifty times on the radio before I ever heard this version.
The confusion on your faces is priceless (and entirely understandable). I guess you had to be here in Europe, watching TV in the 1970's, to have any idea what this is all about :D
If you guys know a bit about world history, the phrase "Adolf builds a bonfire, Enrico plays with it" will tell you anyhting you need to know about the song's meaning.
This was early '80s, artsy rock, new wave. The video and song would scare the hell out of us back then as children. lol.
I think it had Cold War, nuclear war, impending doom scare meaning in the song and video? We were going through the Cold War those years (pre 1992). The Cold War (late '40s - early '90s) had stronger tensions during the late '70s and '80s. I'm not sure about the song, but lots of music , movies had Cold War messages back then. I could be wrong though.
Also that was Kate Bush singing, too. She and Peter are good friends and have done lots of songs together.
Brad gets it, too BTW! He's right. The meaning of the song. And rap style influence. Lex somewhat with the food analogy lol. Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush are pretty artsy, creative in a lot of their songs.
Forgot to mention “Steam” by Peter Gabriel is awesome.
I use to see this video a long time ago when I was a kid. '80s. It was weird and creepy. It is about the Cold War. The Cold War was it its peak. Brad says it sounds a little like rap music. I never knew that before but he is right. jaja
The original version of the video had exploitational scenes of children around a dining table. Bored kids dressed up like glamorous adults, behaving like spoiled adults who behave like children.
@@OronOfMontreal I remember that! It was creepy. The kids at the table and watching video on the table. The crawling baby dolls and giant spinning baby head dolls. Nuclear explosion. They should have watched that video.