@Fred Freddy you missed alot of things. Multiple all time lap records broken, the FASTEST cars f1 had seen ever, everything is better now than before, more closer racing than ever, 2017 to 2020 is literally the peak of f1. And statistics are there to back it. Start with Lewis Hamilton's f1 records. The 2016 to 2020 era is the peak of f1.
@@GoldenEDM_2018 i gotta disagree fam that 2012 season was fire 6 world champions in an all out war every single point counts for everyone now that was some peak racing right there here its still good racing just not peak for me
To be fair, the comments on the announcement video here on youtube are mostly popular. I'm really glad they're trying things out with 3 races instead of jumping in head first, if it works, that's awesome, if not, that's ok too. What worries me the most is how long the parc ferme is, especially with only one FP before it.
Still, i feel like the actual qualifying sessions we have are pretty good.. It would be sad, if they continued with sprint race qualifying, which is like a shortened form of a race but with drivers taking less risks
I would say its cool if it made any sense but lets be honest its just there to make money You could do so much more interesting stuff but that wont get much money Also its stupid to have the sprint race be the qualifing it punishes a mistake in sprint twice which is bad What i would do is have fp 1 but a longer one Then have a sprint race qualifing where you only get one fast lap if you make a mistake well sad Saturday have normal quali except only do q1 and q2 so in the first one you you get the top 10 and the second only with top 10 (so basically get away with the q2 we have right now) Then have the later session on saturday be a sprint race with more points like 8 for first or smth like that Then sunday normal race
@@philipmeisterl I also feel bad for guys like Russell who do well on Saturdays and for verstappen, who might take too many risks during the sprint race and might crash.
@TRB454 F1TV is where it's at. I'm in Canada so not sure if it's different than the US, but replays available immediately after the session, high quality, and frankly, it's very affordable for a streaming service. I had to subscribe to TSN on demand before F1TV was available and I was dumping $30 a month (F1 is the only sport I watch) for mediocre F1 coverage. Now I've got fantastic F1 coverage for under $7 a month.
I'm American in the west coast. I always record the races and watch them later. I never watch practice sessions or qualifying, just watch the highlights later. But with sprint qualifying I actually want to watch!
@@Raptorsified The Race was actually one of the first F1 channels I found when I got into the sport! Good gateway to finding other channels in the process. Chainbear's probably my fave now, what about you?
@@l.lawliet3343 Do it in championship order, so the best guy gets the worst track conditions. Shouldn't matter that much to Hamilton or Verstappen, but would help Russel and Schumacher. 2shot would just be for pole, running in initial qualifying order.
The Monaco race needs to go away. The cars are too big and way too fast for that track. I have loved it, but it's the most dangerous track in F1 and there's no way to make it safe. I recognize that F1 driving is a risky sport, but 2" off the line at a lot of Monaco can put a driver into a wall at high speed. Quit the circuit before someone gets killed there!
Agreed. If it sucks then it'll probably be scrapped. We don't lose anything by just trying sprint quali. My only sticking point is that points shouldn't be awarded, but other than that I am really excited to see how this plays out. In a perfect world though, I think it'd be sick to see a reverse grid race at least once during the year for F1. We all forget that Hamilton, Verstappen, and Bottas (well maybe not always Bottas), are just bangers when they needs to make moves up the field. Same goes for Perez and even Daniel. I'd love to see just one reverse grid, just for the pure spectacle of it. Yes, I know the reasons why they do it in F2 are totally different, but the end result may be the same, a nail biting bonkers race.
@Darkray1002 still artificial. Three parts of qualifying? 5-5-10 knocked out? The top 10 have to start the race on the tyres they set their fastest lap in Q2 on - how artificial is that???
@Yuri DeKhed Yes, but they’ll be forced to flat-out race for both the points gained and the starting position for the actual race, which will be excellent to watch.
@@andyvettel4375 i mean noone gives a fuck anyways. He needs to adapt like everyone else. Its the same as the technical regulations hitting some teams harder than others. Leclerc generally has better qualifying than race aswell so he is probably "loosing out" too.
Parc ferme gets really tricky with FP2 being between qualy and sprint. You either make FP2 pretty much pointless as you cant change the setup much, or you enable teams to setup the car for qualifying in FP1 and then do a totally different setup for the races in FP2, making Parc Ferme useless.
Yes and no. If you make parc ferme till the beginning of fp2 and reactivate it just after they finish it you give the mechanics only 60 min to change and test things. That is a much shorter time period than working overnight. So they cannot change the car dramatically.
FP2 will still be valuable for drivers so they can test the limits of their car setup properly before the race. I don't think its gonna be completely useless.
I think fp1 will be more quali practice while fp2 will be more long runs to find out how the tyres work and stuff. As you said they cant make any change but that in turn makes it a bit more unpredictable.
Yeah, no real point in having FP2 between qualifying and the sprint race. Also no quali runs make practice sessions more boring. Personally, I would put parc ferme rules only after sprint races. Let teams tamper with the setups, there's a cost cap anyways, so i consider parc ferme rules already useless.
I’m excited to see what happens, I like the idea of a more engaging entire weekend. BTW, your graphic showing the comparison is super helpful - the best attempt I’ve seen since the announcement. Cheers.
We almost saw a sprint race in Baku, where the teams had 2 or 3 laps with fresh softs. It was chaos and even Crofty couldn't keep up with it, but it was so much fun. I would love to have seen 10 laps of it even, but i do think 100 km is a bit excessive.
I'm torn. On one hand I agree that setting up the car twice is kind of redundant. But on the other, using a race finish to determine the next race's start sounds like nobody's gonna pass anyone and everyone will race the same way in both races...
Sorry, but I don't agree. Example: if Hamilton and Bottas get 1st and 2nd in quali, do you really think that RB will just accept and give them all the points of the sprint race? Also, if bottom and middle teams have a bad quali session will be able to try and fight for a better place in the sprint race so that they can start higher on the grid in the actual race.
@@florac1995 starting higher on the grid would mean that they would be closer to scoring points in the race. I think that scoring points is important for any team. I can give other example: Ferrari and McLaren look close for now and will be fighting all year for 3rd place in the constructors and all points are important.
@@danielpereira5200 "if Hamilton and Bottas get 1st and 2nd in quali, do you really think that RB will just accept and give them all the points of the sprint race" No. I don't think that's what Sam's saying at all. The main race will likely not have much overtaking, because the cars will have already settled into an approximate race-pace order in the sprint race. This doesn't mean the sprint race won't have good overtaking.
American? then you can clearly see that some idiot brainless FIA dolts have been watching NASCAR and some of their Bizzaro World stunts. They definitely work in the full body cars of NASCAR and they are in fact, for the most part entertaining. But here in F1 it's sheer stupidity. IMHO The rules for what used to be called The Winston (the race held the week before the Coca-Cola 600) were "creative" to say the least.
I've been thinking of qualifying a lot over the past few years. Hear is my idea for mixing up F1 qualifying and the point system. A: Qualifying will carry 20 points for the pole sitter, with 1 point for the last place driver. B: The slowest driver from session 1 will sit at the front of the grid for the race and on 1 point. The fastest driver from session 3 will sit at the back of the grid, with 20 points. C: There would be no incentive for a driver to qualify slowly in order to be further up the grid as qualifying with 6 points and winning the race would give the winner 31 points. Whereas the pole sitter on 20 points and finishing 2nd would recieve 38 points. Also breaking the rules could result in losing some qualifying points rather than a time penalty. I think this would shake up F1 as the whole weekend would be just as important points wise, as the points scored are in the race now.
Ultimately it will come down to how teams approach the sprint qualifying. Since the vast majority of points are still in the sunday race teams will need to focus their strategy to maximise points in the race, which could go one of two ways: - Drivers will be very reluctant to go for risky moves during the sprint quali because they won't want to compromise their race via an unnecessary incident. - Drivers will try and take advantage of perceived caution and see sprint quali as an extra opportunity to get through the field. Most likely I think it'll be the former, unless they decide to incentivise finish position in sprint quali more, but we'll have to wait and see. How will grid penalties work under the new format? Depending on when they're operated teams might be more incentivised to take them which could lead to more exciting racing
I like that they are trying something new. And it's only three races anyway, I mean we voluntarily watch races like France and Abu Dhabi so how could this be any worse hahahah
My only real concern would be that award points for qualifying raises the possibility that the championships could be decided on Saturday instead of in the Sunday race
Aldas raised a really good point on the Veloce talking points regarding sprint quali. They should do the sprint quali at all the "boring" tracks (Yas Marina, Sochi, Catalunya, and Paul Ricard). It might make that whole weekend more exciting. The only track I think should be totally off limits from sprint quali is Monoco. Quali is the best part of that weekend. Really, qualifying is the best part of the weekend at Monoco in the modern age of F1. I'm willing to revist that point in 2023 after we've seen how the new rules affect overtaking at Monoco, but overall that's the only qualifying session that's really shouldn't be touched.
I'm not a massive fan of this sprint qualifying system but I also don't mind it that much. What I am a fan of though is the way they are currently going about trying to implement this. Seems very well thought out with this trying it three times this season and seeing what happens and maybe only implementing it on some tracks in later seasons if it works. Seems like a big step forward in how F1 do things.
I'm all up for different structures for different Grands Prix, makes each event more special and unique. As always, it's important to make the rules clear, don't make changes on the fly to penalize some teams, and focus on consistent, solid stuff instead of just throwing gimmicks to "force" good cars to head to the back of the grid just because.
But what about other automobile competitions, in rallying, you get points for a power (last) stage, in rallycross, points for placement heat runs before the semis and finals, in Indycar, you even get a point for leading a lap. In 24 hours of Spa race, you get points for classification at 6-hour and 12-hour marks. This is something that already happened across motorsport. You get points for other things than final standings and no wonder this concept broke into Formula One as well.
Thank you for putting this video together. I was rather confused on how this would all go down, and you put it all in an easy format that answered literally every question I had for this topic.
I think you make some very interesting points about different qualifying formats for different tracks,makes sense,as far as the sprint qualy is concerned,I for one is really excited because it should spice things up a little bit (in theory atleast).
While i am certainly intrigued, I am curious really what this means in a cost cap environment. Are teams going to risk big maneuvers and potentially have incidents like we have seen with Russell and Bottas last weekend if it means taking massive damage? Are they goin to get additional parts allocations to cover the increased mileage?
You obviously missed the rule covering that possibility. If a team needs a replacement part they can steal it from any other team. That's only if they can penetrate the the moats and minefields that each team will be able to construct around their garage. What brilliance, huh? These FIA Dolts think of everything!!!!!
In Austria people said Daniel Ricardo is bad at qualifying and good at race day. His qualifying time was pretty low, but his race performance was really good. Sprint qualifying will likely let him be ahead on the grid for race day, and bring him back as the driver we knew him as.
Thanks for this video. Watching f1’s description made me so confused, watching your video cleared things up much better. Sounds like an exciting weekend!
Hey Stuart. After hearing so much talk around how inconvenient Quali session is on a Friday afternoon and so many replies of viewers outside Europe waking up at 5 am to watch sessions, I think a really good topic of discussion would be the global character of the sport as well as how that European and mainly British heritage has influenced it's history (Teams, factories, drivers, content creators, personnel, broadcasting, etc.) Your videos are pure gold! Keep it up. You are a really talented person.
Oh man One-Shot Qualy. Years and years asking for this. Hopefully this becomes a thing. And i agree there are a bunch of tracks such as Monaco, which would be perfectly suited for this.
don't underestimate the fact that F1 is owner of F1TV (Sky UK) which allows to replay entire sessions within minutes from the live one. For me it's a bless as in the past 2 years i've learnt to stay away from newsfeeds with F1 content (Eurosport, Instagram and Facebook) prior to watch a session i missed because of work, commuting or just doing other outdoors activities. Often i miss the race intentionally (when in the same CET time zone or similar) so i have race replay dinner, making sure to login at least 3 hours after the expected race finish to avoid knowing weather or incidents influenced the race length. Still it is possible to see from the video layout but i cover that part of the screen until it disappears. In the end i believe F1 wishes more people will move to the platform F1TV which is like 70€/year and includes hundreds of Archive races (good for the winter)
@@marcofragomeni9914 oh Sky definitely have an amazing package to offer, but the cost of it outweighs the benefit of buying it for me (I use my parents Sky Go literally only for the F1 because I'm lucky enough that they don't use Go at all haha). I don't watch much TV other than F1 and sometimes certain tv shows, but I barely watch anything. I don't really feel like splashing out on £40 A MONTH for a Sky package and then paying more for the Sports package that I will use one channel of. I'd much rather splash out £70-80 a year on F1TV if they had it, but Sky must have a special agreement with Liberty in the UK so they don't offer Pro here which fucking sucks.
@@DylanPurser ah understood, it certainly is because F1 TV broadcasts SKY UK. I am Italian living in Poland so without a VPN service SKY-IT won't work and polish broadcast would be on on-demand package which i don't want for your same reasons. F1TV allows me to watch with the commentators i like (for sure better than those from SKY-IT) and most important, legally as before i had no alternative to pirate streaming in low quality, buffering or interrupting
I'm all for one-shot qualy in Monaco!!! What I always loved about the qualy-format where every driver went on track for one hot lap in the order of the championship was that you could give the full attention to every driver. Not only is that good for the sponsors of smaller teams it's also fascinating to be able to focus on all the details going on in that lap.
How are you supposed to watch Friday qualifying when you're at work? Most people work on a Friday afternoon. Quali is my favourite part of the weekend because the races are generally quite dull.
Not even the official F1 accounts on social media were able to explain the sprint format this good!. Great video, so easy to digest all the information!.
@@gabor6259 oh yeah. Not saying it's a great idea, but it'd be something different again. Like the strategy to pit late in sq for good tyres and lose some grid position. Or start high, put early in race and probably have to put again later.
I think it'll be interesting and definitely worth a try... kinda like the first race in 2020 when they weren't able to practice much so teams didn't have much data so they had to work out their strats more on the fly during the race. I like chainbear's idea of changing the types of quali as well based on the tracks... it means the drivers have to incorporate different sets of skills depending on the track (ie if overtaking is possible or not). Great video!
Before watching this I thought what the hell, this sprint-quali-thing sucks! Now I am really into your idea about the individual quali alternation per event and cant wait to actually see it. Thank you for changing and opening my mind🙏
I think they should keep Q1 and Q2 the same, but for Q3 instead of the same thing, replace it with one shot qualifying. The running order will be decided by the results of Q2. So if you're fastest in Q2 you run last in Q3, if you're 10th in Q2 you run first etc. This adds an extra element to Q2 - at the moment it doesn't matter the order of Q2, just if you get into the top 10. With my system there would be extra incentive to get a fast time in Q2 to get a later starting position in Q3 for your one lap shot. Also, scrap Friday completely and have one 2 hour practice session Saturday morning, followed by the qualifying with one-shot pole shootout, then the race the following day.
Which pole will count towards your pole stats? If Hamilton for example gets pole on Friday and wins the sq on Saturday are those 2 poles which would elevate his 99 poles to 101? Or will only one count if so which?
Only concern is it may devalue the race day, the sprint race will likely have the same outcome as the race, making the race predictable. Also these formats are even more difficult to understand to new people trying to follow F1, alienating some audiences.
so, quali on saturday morning, sprint race on saturday afternoon, and race on sunday? you must really hate those drivers. do you have any idea of the physical and, most of all, mental exhaustion qualifying and racing cause? and you want them to endure that all together? not even endurance drivers have that hard of a schedule.
@@Moribax85 if you think having more than on competitive session on one day is too much then idk what to tell you there are so many championships that have multiple sessions on the same day and the Saturday race is only short anyway trust me the drivers will be fine
@@Moribax85 when weather was absolutely horrific on Saturdays that qualifying was cancelled, the old system was to hold qualifying on the Sunday instead, and delay the race by enough time to at least allow for the cars to be made ready for the Sunday. They did away with that and started using free practice times in place if quali got cancelled for weather reasons. Having an early morning quali on a Saturday, possibly in a short format could really work for holding a 40 minute sprint race a few hours after. Formula E, for example, runs its qualifying a few hours before the race, but it has a one-shot quali session for the top 10 drivers.
Eh, screw the engineers. I'm in the same camp at Tom Bellingham from WTF1. The teams have so much data to work with that baring a rain, safety car, or red flag restart there's very little in the way of unknown scenarios for the drivers. While I do think rain, safety cars, and red flags do make the race more exciting, those shouldn't be the only way the races become exciting. Less practice may lead to less known circumstances and better racing.
Your video is from a graphic designers point of view by far the best looking. It is also: clear, precise, very well spaced and extremely informative. Thank you.
Thanks for clearing up the sprint quali. Honestly I think it could be a great addition to some of the races on the calendar! Some tracks I don't know if it will work but for others this could be a game changer.
Let's be honest, the main 'why' for this are purely commercial. F1 lost on TV revenue due to less races last year and the track promoters didn't get any revenue due to no / very limited crowds allowed. This makes the entire GP weekend more sellable to audiences (which could help some of the more financially troubled tracks stay on the calendar since they could actually afford it) and boosts TV viewership thus increasing revenue so they recover their losses. I am not opposed to trying it but I'd hate to see it as a constant format on principle, but maybe it works out better in practice than I envision.
The idea of using 3 different qualifying session formats to suit the racetrack for a given weekend stikes me as fantastic! Intrinsically, I don't necessarily find the idea of one-shot qualifying to be the most dramatic, but reducing the impact of traffic and of getting a tow on "top speed" circuits would probably be well worth it, and we'd have an opportunity for some fantastic, detailed commentary of each driver's attempt instead of the only the top teams or whoever happens to be out on track first.
Thanks for explaining! Great video as always. Love the one shot on some tracks idea too! Not all tracks work well with the same format and this is a great way to make those tracks more unique/better!
Can't wait to watch Lewis lead the race for an extra twenty laps. Jokes aside, I think this is an interesting idea that is worth trying out. Its not like they have to continue doing it if it sucks.
@@ScrollsofSombra Yeah, the biggest issue with the stage format is that they throw a yellow at the end of each stage. I'm fine with the points going out, but make them less than winning the overall race, and keep the race going. Is it worth trying for those three points and possibly compromising your finishing spot instead of ten points and knowing you have a shot at keeping that spot on a restart?
I think it’s a great idea to make Friday and Saturday sessions more exciting. Because in general not a lot of people watch P1 P2 that much on Friday so this format will engage more viewers throughout The Weeknd. Also I like the fact it will give drivers one extra shot to improve their chances to score some points on Sunday! Can’t wait for British GP to try this out
I'm saving the criticism until it's actually been done in a GP weekend since I don't think it's fair to hate on something that hasn't even been done. It's like hating on a video game that's still in it's beta stage.
0:18 FINALLY someone tells me right away which races it's gonna be!! All those news articles go into the gory details that the quali is gonna be on Friday -- and NEVER TELL ME WHICH RACES I SHOULD TUNE IN ON FRIDAY FOR!!! >x-((
I'm not someone who needs them, but thank you so much for either doing, or paying someone to do, subtitles for your videos. It's terrible how many decently sized channels, especially corporate ones *cough* sky sports f1 *cough* don't do this!
"cannot watch if in school or at work"
me: you underestimate my power
If this happened last year (pre-covid) I'd have it up on my college laptop
I'm in the middle of an assignment. Creating a curriculum outline. But its Chain Bear. You can't miss.
You know Anakin/Vader said that right before hist dumbest error right?
im literally in class while typing this lmao
School or work at Saturday ? Not in any respectable old socialism country :-D
Look at this guy, with his "nuance" and "perspective". It's almost as if he *wants* the sport to succeed.
Can't be. Thats heresy!
@Fred Freddy you missed alot of things. Multiple all time lap records broken, the FASTEST cars f1 had seen ever, everything is better now than before, more closer racing than ever, 2017 to 2020 is literally the peak of f1. And statistics are there to back it. Start with Lewis Hamilton's f1 records. The 2016 to 2020 era is the peak of f1.
@@GoldenEDM_2018that is absolutely not true, 2016 was great but 2017-2020 were as bad as the 2000-2004 run of Ferrari.
@@IBangedUrMom69420 read all the comments of this thread again as well as the OP.
@@GoldenEDM_2018 i gotta disagree fam that 2012 season was fire 6 world champions in an all out war every single point counts for everyone now that was some peak racing right there here its still good racing just not peak for me
Nice to see an open mind for this. I say give it a go as well! Nice one.
To be fair, the comments on the announcement video here on youtube are mostly popular. I'm really glad they're trying things out with 3 races instead of jumping in head first, if it works, that's awesome, if not, that's ok too. What worries me the most is how long the parc ferme is, especially with only one FP before it.
Didn't know you were an f1 fan!
Still, i feel like the actual qualifying sessions we have are pretty good.. It would be sad, if they continued with sprint race qualifying, which is like a shortened form of a race but with drivers taking less risks
I would say its cool if it made any sense but lets be honest its just there to make money
You could do so much more interesting stuff but that wont get much money
Also its stupid to have the sprint race be the qualifing it punishes a mistake in sprint twice which is bad
What i would do is have fp 1 but a longer one
Then have a sprint race qualifing where you only get one fast lap if you make a mistake well sad
Saturday have normal quali except only do q1 and q2 so in the first one you you get the top 10 and the second only with top 10 (so basically get away with the q2 we have right now)
Then have the later session on saturday be a sprint race with more points like 8 for first or smth like that
Then sunday normal race
@@philipmeisterl I also feel bad for guys like Russell who do well on Saturdays and for verstappen, who might take too many risks during the sprint race and might crash.
One shot at Monaco would be AMAZING. imagine how intense it would be to have to do one and only one perfect lap with no Q1 to get into the groove.
...what happened between 2003 and 2005.
CB: "cannot watch at school or work"
Me, an American who usually doesn't wake up at 5am every race weekend for quali: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I feel your pain, from someone in the UK who regularly stays up past 1am on a Sunday night to see the end of the Nascar.
DVRs were invented to watch F1 in America.
@TRB454 F1TV is where it's at. I'm in Canada so not sure if it's different than the US, but replays available immediately after the session, high quality, and frankly, it's very affordable for a streaming service. I had to subscribe to TSN on demand before F1TV was available and I was dumping $30 a month (F1 is the only sport I watch) for mediocre F1 coverage. Now I've got fantastic F1 coverage for under $7 a month.
I'm American in the west coast. I always record the races and watch them later. I never watch practice sessions or qualifying, just watch the highlights later. But with sprint qualifying I actually want to watch!
@@sevegarza the last couple seasons I have been really into qualifying, often finding it more exciting than the races.
Came here after video by The Race. And suddenly realised how much more sensible Chainbear's content is!
I think both have good points and to form an opinion yourself, you need to hear both sides first.
The race is the football daily of F1. Good place for a lot of people to start, not much use for much more
@@Raptorsified The Race was actually one of the first F1 channels I found when I got into the sport! Good gateway to finding other channels in the process. Chainbear's probably my fave now, what about you?
One-shot Qualy in Monaco would be amazing! Probably isn't going to happen though
Not sure .. we had 1shot qualy and it was scrapped. I'd say 2shot qualy ... for Monaco.
The track evolution is so extrem in Monaco, that a one-shot quali would be pretty unfair in my opinion
One shot quali was probably my favourite format. Just a shame it means less TV exposure so less money
@@l.lawliet3343 Do it in championship order, so the best guy gets the worst track conditions. Shouldn't matter that much to Hamilton or Verstappen, but would help Russel and Schumacher. 2shot would just be for pole, running in initial qualifying order.
The Monaco race needs to go away. The cars are too big and way too fast for that track. I have loved it, but it's the most dangerous track in F1 and there's no way to make it safe. I recognize that F1 driving is a risky sport, but 2" off the line at a lot of Monaco can put a driver into a wall at high speed. Quit the circuit before someone gets killed there!
Best part about new formats is more Chainbear content.
One shot quali at Monaco is genius
I think they could go even further and make that whole weekend a bunch of time trials.
The idea of having a variety of possible quali formats across the season is good too. Not all tracks are the same.
@@JohnR31415one shot at monza or a sprint race
One shot quali at Monaco but only one car on track at any time, cut the bullshit with setting up tows and drafts and intentional traffic etc
@@Cafferssss you mean Monza?
I think it'll be decent. OPTIMISM PEOPLE!
Totally agree. More action on race weekends can be cool, specially if they keep it only at some instances.
Exactly! I don't know why people are hating, we still need to see what happens!
OPTIMISM LADS OPTIMISM!!!
Agreed. If it sucks then it'll probably be scrapped. We don't lose anything by just trying sprint quali. My only sticking point is that points shouldn't be awarded, but other than that I am really excited to see how this plays out.
In a perfect world though, I think it'd be sick to see a reverse grid race at least once during the year for F1. We all forget that Hamilton, Verstappen, and Bottas (well maybe not always Bottas), are just bangers when they needs to make moves up the field. Same goes for Perez and even Daniel. I'd love to see just one reverse grid, just for the pure spectacle of it. Yes, I know the reasons why they do it in F2 are totally different, but the end result may be the same, a nail biting bonkers race.
Yes Tommo! Optimism!
Out of all the TH-camrs i watch
This guy has by far the best voice to listen to.
Can listen to it 24/7 and I'd never get tired of it.
Yeah i want this guy teaching me about tyre management before sleep for the rest of my life ahaha
His review of 2020 is over an hour long and I've watched it 3 times.
So far.
Look up James Hoffman, easily best voice on YT
LockPickingLawyer is very relaxing too.
A minute of silence for mechanics that will have to build the car in one night from Saturday to Sunday
The time they are allowed to work on the car is strictly limited nowadays
How many curfew jokers will be used I wonder?
I am glad they are trying something to spice things up. If it works, that be great and if it doesn't, it's back to the drawing board.
Yep, Fridays are a bit dull.
why back to the drawing board?
@Darkray1002 Isn’t the current qualifying format already artificial?
@Darkray1002 still artificial. Three parts of qualifying? 5-5-10 knocked out? The top 10 have to start the race on the tyres they set their fastest lap in Q2 on - how artificial is that???
@Yuri DeKhed Yes, but they’ll be forced to flat-out race for both the points gained and the starting position for the actual race, which will be excellent to watch.
FIA: Qualifying means less and the race is longer now
Bottas: MEIN GOTT MUSS DAS SEIN
Wasn't it Vettel who said that? I mean after all, "Mein Gott, muss das sein" is a german phrase. :D
Or am I missing a joke here?
@@Daxelinho9 yep, Vettel said it and thats the joke, basically
@@Daxelinho9 the joke is that bottas has very good qualifying pace but sucks in the race. And yes the quote is from vettel.
Well it will be only for 3 races so doesn't matter much for him in the grand scheme of things
@@andyvettel4375 i mean noone gives a fuck anyways. He needs to adapt like everyone else. Its the same as the technical regulations hitting some teams harder than others. Leclerc generally has better qualifying than race aswell so he is probably "loosing out" too.
Parc ferme gets really tricky with FP2 being between qualy and sprint. You either make FP2 pretty much pointless as you cant change the setup much, or you enable teams to setup the car for qualifying in FP1 and then do a totally different setup for the races in FP2, making Parc Ferme useless.
Yes and no. If you make parc ferme till the beginning of fp2 and reactivate it just after they finish it you give the mechanics only 60 min to change and test things. That is a much shorter time period than working overnight. So they cannot change the car dramatically.
FP2 will still be valuable for drivers so they can test the limits of their car setup properly before the race. I don't think its gonna be completely useless.
I think fp1 will be more quali practice while fp2 will be more long runs to find out how the tyres work and stuff. As you said they cant make any change but that in turn makes it a bit more unpredictable.
Also, I dont think viewers would be interested in FP2 coz there wont be any quali simulations
Yeah, no real point in having FP2 between qualifying and the sprint race. Also no quali runs make practice sessions more boring. Personally, I would put parc ferme rules only after sprint races. Let teams tamper with the setups, there's a cost cap anyways, so i consider parc ferme rules already useless.
I’m excited to see what happens, I like the idea of a more engaging entire weekend. BTW, your graphic showing the comparison is super helpful - the best attempt I’ve seen since the announcement. Cheers.
Came here after the F1 Explanation of Sprints, this explanation is hands down a better explanation than the F1 one.
I couldn't follow the F1 explanation at all. This was a great video to follow
I'd love to see more custom race weekends, not only in regards to qualifying but also race distance, tyre usage requirements etc
Race distance means longer or shorter broadcast time, which would be a problem
The last suggestion was pretty good. Modify qualification depending on track layout. So yes, make it three formats.
This explanation was so good that I didn't even realize sprint quali was confusing until I tried explaning it myself to another person.
I really like the idea of having different kinds of quali tailored to specific tracks. Make it happen!
We almost saw a sprint race in Baku, where the teams had 2 or 3 laps with fresh softs. It was chaos and even Crofty couldn't keep up with it, but it was so much fun. I would love to have seen 10 laps of it even, but i do think 100 km is a bit excessive.
I'm torn. On one hand I agree that setting up the car twice is kind of redundant. But on the other, using a race finish to determine the next race's start sounds like nobody's gonna pass anyone and everyone will race the same way in both races...
Sorry, but I don't agree. Example: if Hamilton and Bottas get 1st and 2nd in quali, do you really think that RB will just accept and give them all the points of the sprint race? Also, if bottom and middle teams have a bad quali session will be able to try and fight for a better place in the sprint race so that they can start higher on the grid in the actual race.
@@danielpereira5200 Your second example however then just makes the race itself less interesting, because they dont have to do that there.
@@florac1995 starting higher on the grid would mean that they would be closer to scoring points in the race. I think that scoring points is important for any team. I can give other example: Ferrari and McLaren look close for now and will be fighting all year for 3rd place in the constructors and all points are important.
@@danielpereira5200 "if Hamilton and Bottas get 1st and 2nd in quali, do you really think that RB will just accept and give them all the points of the sprint race"
No. I don't think that's what Sam's saying at all. The main race will likely not have much overtaking, because the cars will have already settled into an approximate race-pace order in the sprint race. This doesn't mean the sprint race won't have good overtaking.
@@nathangamble125 incidents can happen during sprint quali too
Yea! As an American I have to wake up at 5am Friday and Saturday as opposed to just Saturday!
Welcome to my world 😂 im in the UK but still have to get to work at that time
In Australia it’s midnight every time
American? then you can clearly see that some idiot brainless FIA dolts have been watching NASCAR and some of their Bizzaro World stunts. They definitely work in the full body cars of NASCAR and they are in fact, for the most part entertaining. But here in F1 it's sheer stupidity. IMHO The rules for what used to be called The Winston (the race held the week before the Coca-Cola 600) were "creative" to say the least.
0:12 fia trying to get sprint qauali into grand prix weekend
Subtitles: fia trying to geat sprint into a grumpy weekend
4:37 - Run out of parts ? Bolt on old ones.
Mazepin might end up with Rich Energy Haas parts
Maybe he crashes so hard in Sprint, Haas can't repair it for Sunday Race...
Win-win, innit?
Lololololol
I can always count on Chain Bear to be the voice of calm and reason in the chaotic world of F1. Amazing video!
I've been thinking of qualifying a lot over the past few years. Hear is my idea for mixing up F1 qualifying and the point system.
A: Qualifying will carry 20 points for the pole sitter, with 1 point for the last place driver.
B: The slowest driver from session 1 will sit at the front of the grid for the race and on 1 point. The fastest driver from session 3 will sit at the back of the grid, with 20 points.
C: There would be no incentive for a driver to qualify slowly in order to be further up the grid as qualifying with 6 points and winning the race would give the winner 31 points. Whereas the pole sitter on 20 points and finishing 2nd would recieve 38 points. Also breaking the rules could result in losing some qualifying points rather than a time penalty. I think this would shake up F1 as the whole weekend would be just as important points wise, as the points scored are in the race now.
Ultimately it will come down to how teams approach the sprint qualifying. Since the vast majority of points are still in the sunday race teams will need to focus their strategy to maximise points in the race, which could go one of two ways:
- Drivers will be very reluctant to go for risky moves during the sprint quali because they won't want to compromise their race via an unnecessary incident.
- Drivers will try and take advantage of perceived caution and see sprint quali as an extra opportunity to get through the field.
Most likely I think it'll be the former, unless they decide to incentivise finish position in sprint quali more, but we'll have to wait and see.
How will grid penalties work under the new format? Depending on when they're operated teams might be more incentivised to take them which could lead to more exciting racing
I think the lower placed teams will go for risky except when they have a great regular quali, better teams conservative.
You're kidding right? F1 driver not willing to take a risk during a race? OK, I give up, name the one driver that wouldn't
Today was the first sprint race …..and it was perfect, now f1 has a full weekend
I like that they are trying something new. And it's only three races anyway, I mean we voluntarily watch races like France and Abu Dhabi so how could this be any worse hahahah
Do not forget Monaco.
@@furyofgungnir Well, yeah. That's true, but there's still something amazing about Monaco. You're right it's damn boring though lol
@@furyofgungnir Monaco is special, it is like F1 and Ferrari.
@@furyofgungnir The best part of Monaco is the Qualifying. That's the only race I don't think would benefit in some way from a sprint qualifying.
Mônaco is great because everything is so tight that a crash could happen any moment
My only real concern would be that award points for qualifying raises the possibility that the championships could be decided on Saturday instead of in the Sunday race
Last time I was this early we were still doing one shot quali
is that one shot for every sector PB?
hugely agree about Monaco.
I'd go further and make that whole weekend a bunch of time trials or something.
Different quali format for different tracks is a great idea!
Aldas raised a really good point on the Veloce talking points regarding sprint quali. They should do the sprint quali at all the "boring" tracks (Yas Marina, Sochi, Catalunya, and Paul Ricard). It might make that whole weekend more exciting.
The only track I think should be totally off limits from sprint quali is Monoco. Quali is the best part of that weekend. Really, qualifying is the best part of the weekend at Monoco in the modern age of F1. I'm willing to revist that point in 2023 after we've seen how the new rules affect overtaking at Monoco, but overall that's the only qualifying session that's really shouldn't be touched.
I love the idea at the end of custom weekend formats, that would be awesome
I'm not a massive fan of this sprint qualifying system but I also don't mind it that much.
What I am a fan of though is the way they are currently going about trying to implement this. Seems very well thought out with this trying it three times this season and seeing what happens and maybe only implementing it on some tracks in later seasons if it works.
Seems like a big step forward in how F1 do things.
THANK YOU! 🙏 Much better explained than FORMULA 1 OFFICIAL!
YES! More Chainbear is always good!
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@@mkaali No, just a genuine reaction to getting a notification of a new Chainbear video.
@@neeraj_hk True, but comments like those drown out the ones where there's actually discussion
I'm all up for different structures for different Grands Prix, makes each event more special and unique. As always, it's important to make the rules clear, don't make changes on the fly to penalize some teams, and focus on consistent, solid stuff instead of just throwing gimmicks to "force" good cars to head to the back of the grid just because.
I like the concept, but it's weird to me that there are points for the sprint race
Yeah, imagine the championship being decided on a saturday
Yeah, I'm glad they're trying it and I am excited to see how it goes, but the points thing in a sticking point for me.
“We’re reducing the gap to the bigger teams by giving the big teams extra points.”
@@Bonobostro234 that would be so wack
But what about other automobile competitions, in rallying, you get points for a power (last) stage, in rallycross, points for placement heat runs before the semis and finals, in Indycar, you even get a point for leading a lap. In 24 hours of Spa race, you get points for classification at 6-hour and 12-hour marks. This is something that already happened across motorsport. You get points for other things than final standings and no wonder this concept broke into Formula One as well.
You channel is so great and informative, I learned so much about F1 here!
I really like the idea of certain tracks having different quali rules.
Like you said, Monaco would be 1 by 1 quali but w/ eliminations!
Thank you for putting this video together. I was rather confused on how this would all go down, and you put it all in an easy format that answered literally every question I had for this topic.
I think you make some very interesting points about different qualifying formats for different tracks,makes sense,as far as the sprint qualy is concerned,I for one is really excited because it should spice things up a little bit (in theory atleast).
I really like the idea of having one-shot qualifying as an option too, track-dependant. No more farcical situations like the Monza Traffic Jam.
While i am certainly intrigued, I am curious really what this means in a cost cap environment. Are teams going to risk big maneuvers and potentially have incidents like we have seen with Russell and Bottas last weekend if it means taking massive damage? Are they goin to get additional parts allocations to cover the increased mileage?
You obviously missed the rule covering that possibility. If a team needs a replacement part they can steal it from any other team. That's only if they can penetrate the the moats and minefields that each team will be able to construct around their garage. What brilliance, huh? These FIA Dolts think of everything!!!!!
In Austria people said Daniel Ricardo is bad at qualifying and good at race day. His qualifying time was pretty low, but his race performance was really good. Sprint qualifying will likely let him be ahead on the grid for race day, and bring him back as the driver we knew him as.
This feels like a Nascar move...Past proves future.
Thanks for this video. Watching f1’s description made me so confused, watching your video cleared things up much better. Sounds like an exciting weekend!
Could you explain about the token system and the winter development of F1 cars....
Keep up the good work bro!
He already has. Its in the development freeze video
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Hey Stuart. After hearing so much talk around how inconvenient Quali session is on a Friday afternoon and so many replies of viewers outside Europe waking up at 5 am to watch sessions, I think a really good topic of discussion would be the global character of the sport as well as how that European and mainly British heritage has influenced it's history (Teams, factories, drivers, content creators, personnel, broadcasting, etc.)
Your videos are pure gold! Keep it up. You are a really talented person.
Oh man One-Shot Qualy. Years and years asking for this. Hopefully this becomes a thing. And i agree there are a bunch of tracks such as Monaco, which would be perfectly suited for this.
Respect for the open attitude and positivity brother
"Hopefully your broadcaster will run full repeats in the evenings" cries in channel 4 highlights
don't underestimate the fact that F1 is owner of F1TV (Sky UK) which allows to replay entire sessions within minutes from the live one. For me it's a bless as in the past 2 years i've learnt to stay away from newsfeeds with F1 content (Eurosport, Instagram and Facebook) prior to watch a session i missed because of work, commuting or just doing other outdoors activities. Often i miss the race intentionally (when in the same CET time zone or similar) so i have race replay dinner, making sure to login at least 3 hours after the expected race finish to avoid knowing weather or incidents influenced the race length. Still it is possible to see from the video layout but i cover that part of the screen until it disappears.
In the end i believe F1 wishes more people will move to the platform F1TV which is like 70€/year and includes hundreds of Archive races (good for the winter)
@@marcofragomeni9914 oh Sky definitely have an amazing package to offer, but the cost of it outweighs the benefit of buying it for me (I use my parents Sky Go literally only for the F1 because I'm lucky enough that they don't use Go at all haha). I don't watch much TV other than F1 and sometimes certain tv shows, but I barely watch anything. I don't really feel like splashing out on £40 A MONTH for a Sky package and then paying more for the Sports package that I will use one channel of. I'd much rather splash out £70-80 a year on F1TV if they had it, but Sky must have a special agreement with Liberty in the UK so they don't offer Pro here which fucking sucks.
@@DylanPurser ah understood, it certainly is because F1 TV broadcasts SKY UK. I am Italian living in Poland so without a VPN service SKY-IT won't work and polish broadcast would be on on-demand package which i don't want for your same reasons. F1TV allows me to watch with the commentators i like (for sure better than those from SKY-IT) and most important, legally as before i had no alternative to pirate streaming in low quality, buffering or interrupting
I'm all for one-shot qualy in Monaco!!!
What I always loved about the qualy-format where every driver went on track for one hot lap in the order of the championship was that you could give the full attention to every driver. Not only is that good for the sponsors of smaller teams it's also fascinating to be able to focus on all the details going on in that lap.
Probably the best take on this new weekend. It’s silly that people don’t even want to try this as it could work great.
I like your contents because they are easy to understand and you always approach from an unbiased/technical point of view.
How are you supposed to watch Friday qualifying when you're at work? Most people work on a Friday afternoon. Quali is my favourite part of the weekend because the races are generally quite dull.
People that are at college or high-school aren't able to watch it either. I guess they just don't care wether we watch it lol
You can't and Liberty media doesn't give a shit.
Record it and avoid spoilers.
Incredibly well put together presentation - very clear.
Perez to Bottas: It's over Valtteri, I have the high ground.
Not even the official F1 accounts on social media were able to explain the sprint format this good!. Great video, so easy to digest all the information!.
If they really wanted to shake things up. They should start the GP on the tyre they finished the sprint
I mean that sounds awesome. However, safety stewards would probably have some strong words to say about that scenario.
That would result in excessive tyre-savings on the sprint quali.
@@gabor6259 oh yeah. Not saying it's a great idea, but it'd be something different again. Like the strategy to pit late in sq for good tyres and lose some grid position. Or start high, put early in race and probably have to put again later.
I think it'll be interesting and definitely worth a try... kinda like the first race in 2020 when they weren't able to practice much so teams didn't have much data so they had to work out their strats more on the fly during the race. I like chainbear's idea of changing the types of quali as well based on the tracks... it means the drivers have to incorporate different sets of skills depending on the track (ie if overtaking is possible or not). Great video!
Before watching this I thought what the hell, this sprint-quali-thing sucks!
Now I am really into your idea about the individual quali alternation per event and cant wait to actually see it. Thank you for changing and opening my mind🙏
I think they should keep Q1 and Q2 the same, but for Q3 instead of the same thing, replace it with one shot qualifying. The running order will be decided by the results of Q2. So if you're fastest in Q2 you run last in Q3, if you're 10th in Q2 you run first etc.
This adds an extra element to Q2 - at the moment it doesn't matter the order of Q2, just if you get into the top 10. With my system there would be extra incentive to get a fast time in Q2 to get a later starting position in Q3 for your one lap shot.
Also, scrap Friday completely and have one 2 hour practice session Saturday morning, followed by the qualifying with one-shot pole shootout, then the race the following day.
Which pole will count towards your pole stats? If Hamilton for example gets pole on Friday and wins the sq on Saturday are those 2 poles which would elevate his 99 poles to 101? Or will only one count if so which?
I honestly don't know
I guess may be the Sprint Quali cause it's the one with the trophy
Only concern is it may devalue the race day, the sprint race will likely have the same outcome as the race, making the race predictable. Also these formats are even more difficult to understand to new people trying to follow F1, alienating some audiences.
i dont understand why we can't have quali on a Saturday morning
so, quali on saturday morning, sprint race on saturday afternoon, and race on sunday? you must really hate those drivers.
do you have any idea of the physical and, most of all, mental exhaustion qualifying and racing cause? and you want them to endure that all together?
not even endurance drivers have that hard of a schedule.
@@Moribax85 They already do a practice session on Saturday morning anyway. What's the difference?
@@Moribax85 my mans talking like he’s a racing driver.
@@Moribax85 if you think having more than on competitive session on one day is too much then idk what to tell you there are so many championships that have multiple sessions on the same day and the Saturday race is only short anyway trust me the drivers will be fine
@@Moribax85 when weather was absolutely horrific on Saturdays that qualifying was cancelled, the old system was to hold qualifying on the Sunday instead, and delay the race by enough time to at least allow for the cars to be made ready for the Sunday.
They did away with that and started using free practice times in place if quali got cancelled for weather reasons.
Having an early morning quali on a Saturday, possibly in a short format could really work for holding a 40 minute sprint race a few hours after.
Formula E, for example, runs its qualifying a few hours before the race, but it has a one-shot quali session for the top 10 drivers.
Chain bear, really glad you made this video. Made me think of sprint quali differently and I really like your one shot quali idea
“So how do tyres work” is something Pirelli have been asking themselves for a long time.
yep, i agree with your points, especially the final one!
Basically marketing to hype up on Friday....
R.I.P engineers trying to gather data
Well we’ve seen how low amounts of data have affected the racing
Eh, screw the engineers. I'm in the same camp at Tom Bellingham from WTF1. The teams have so much data to work with that baring a rain, safety car, or red flag restart there's very little in the way of unknown scenarios for the drivers. While I do think rain, safety cars, and red flags do make the race more exciting, those shouldn't be the only way the races become exciting. Less practice may lead to less known circumstances and better racing.
Your video is from a graphic designers point of view by far the best looking. It is also: clear, precise, very well spaced and extremely informative. Thank you.
Inb4 it's an unmitigated disaster and they scrap the 3rd trial after backlash from fans.
Thanks for clearing up the sprint quali. Honestly I think it could be a great addition to some of the races on the calendar! Some tracks I don't know if it will work but for others this could be a game changer.
Love how I still watch this whole video even tho I know every little fact about this
Great explanation and video. I've just come back to refresh myself ahead of Silverstone next weekend and now I'm excited to see how it plays out
I’ll just skip class to watch quali. What has a college degree ever done for anyone?
Sanity degrades faster than a supersoft tyre
21 Gun Salute!
First detailed explanation I've seen! Thanks C. bear
Yes, one-shot quali for Monaco + Baku
I fucking love it.
Bad idea at Baku. Baku is completely fine under the current qualifying. Track conditions at Baku change every second.
Let's be honest, the main 'why' for this are purely commercial. F1 lost on TV revenue due to less races last year and the track promoters didn't get any revenue due to no / very limited crowds allowed. This makes the entire GP weekend more sellable to audiences (which could help some of the more financially troubled tracks stay on the calendar since they could actually afford it) and boosts TV viewership thus increasing revenue so they recover their losses.
I am not opposed to trying it but I'd hate to see it as a constant format on principle, but maybe it works out better in practice than I envision.
3:10 Just sounds like an excuse to give top teams even more points.
Let there be an incident or two at the front while those sprint qualis and it might decide the WDC, pretty exciting in my opinion
@@seq6133 while that is true, it is incredibly, ridiculously rare that the front runners tangle with each other
The idea of using 3 different qualifying session formats to suit the racetrack for a given weekend stikes me as fantastic! Intrinsically, I don't necessarily find the idea of one-shot qualifying to be the most dramatic, but reducing the impact of traffic and of getting a tow on "top speed" circuits would probably be well worth it, and we'd have an opportunity for some fantastic, detailed commentary of each driver's attempt instead of the only the top teams or whoever happens to be out on track first.
This sounds more fun than a typical weekend.
Thanks for explaining! Great video as always. Love the one shot on some tracks idea too! Not all tracks work well with the same format and this is a great way to make those tracks more unique/better!
Can't wait to watch Lewis lead the race for an extra twenty laps. Jokes aside, I think this is an interesting idea that is worth trying out. Its not like they have to continue doing it if it sucks.
*laughs in Nascar stage format*
Oh they'll keep doing it. IF IT MAKES MONEY.
@@ScrollsofSombra Yeah, the biggest issue with the stage format is that they throw a yellow at the end of each stage. I'm fine with the points going out, but make them less than winning the overall race, and keep the race going. Is it worth trying for those three points and possibly compromising your finishing spot instead of ten points and knowing you have a shot at keeping that spot on a restart?
Honestly I love the idea of a nice mix of fit to track quali styles as you suggested at the end.
I also see more of my favourite pasta...s🅱️inalla 🤓
I mean think about it. More stress = more mistakes.
I think it’s a great idea to make Friday and Saturday sessions more exciting. Because in general not a lot of people watch P1 P2 that much on Friday so this format will engage more viewers throughout The Weeknd. Also I like the fact it will give drivers one extra shot to improve their chances to score some points on Sunday!
Can’t wait for British GP to try this out
I'm saving the criticism until it's actually been done in a GP weekend since I don't think it's fair to hate on something that hasn't even been done. It's like hating on a video game that's still in it's beta stage.
0:18 FINALLY someone tells me right away which races it's gonna be!!
All those news articles go into the gory details that the quali is gonna be on Friday -- and NEVER TELL ME WHICH RACES I SHOULD TUNE IN ON FRIDAY FOR!!! >x-((
I'm the 20th view so I guess I'm a Haas
The question then becomes, did you crash in the first 15 seconds or make it to the end?
I liked the beginning!! This open mind really helps clarify the details and open us to more ideas and solutions!!! 😂
Friday might become more interesting day but most people will still be working.
I'm not someone who needs them, but thank you so much for either doing, or paying someone to do, subtitles for your videos. It's terrible how many decently sized channels, especially corporate ones *cough* sky sports f1 *cough* don't do this!
Fía be like: hmm so lets make a format which makes harder for Mercedes to win, but still ends up with at least 1 merc on the podium.
Giving every event a specific style of qualifying event that suits that particular circuit is brilliant.
Thanks for this. You gave the best explanation of the potential pros and cons I've seen anywhere.
i really like your idea of assigning one shot qualies to predictable tracks, that would spice them a lot
Monza and Baku need it soooo badly. Those Slipstream games need to stop.