Note: I typically set the profile of the grinding stone on the sharpener so that the curved edge of the stone faces away from the face of the tooth. In the video I had the grinding stone guide setup backwards by mistake (see your owners manual for details)
I was wondering... You had me thinking I've been doing it all wrong! It's always good to take a gander at the manual since my memory isn't getting any better between sharpenings! Thanks again for the great videos Sandy!
It's been a year and I'm finally having to set up my setter and sharpening system. I bought 25 blades when I got the mill, and I have one box left.... 20 blade sharpening day, let's goooo!
Sandy make sure you have a good strong battery you'll burn up that electric motor on the tooth sharpener. And my 130 Max sawmill came in and I love it thank you sir you were pretty much my inspiration and I bought the same sawmill you have now I got to get the same sharpener and tooth setter 😎👍
@@sawingwithsandy I already love it. The sawmill trailer I'm building should be finished within the week. I'll figure out how to send you pictures. I'm pretty impressed with the way it's coming out so far. Try to stay warm up there man I'm in plant City Florida so it don't really get or stay cold for long down here.
Hi Sandy just wanted to say thanks for your videos. I recently bought a few acers in the blue mountains here in Washington state. Bought a woodland 130 and assembled it a the home place about 90 miles from the wood land. I live in the desert, no trees. My neighbor think I am nuts. Your videos have been a grate help Thanks.
Good day to You Sandy now as to Your balcony idea,it's definitely Your decision but if You build high enough up just remember then You have to climb up there to put things up there then climb up again when bringing things back down as We get older not a favorable thing to do and You're a master builder how about a lean to the length of Your shop on the left side to put that kind of stuff in the benefits to keeping it on ground level are Huge plus all of us would get another series on You building it which We all Love and look forward to! You Da Man Sandy very instructional and on spot! Thank You Kindly!
Great points about having to carry the items down Michael. Not mine of my favourite things thats for sure. You've got me thinking now about the lean-to idea. Thanks for sharing
I will get such a setup someday, for now I have a local guy set and sharpen my blades 8$ each, I have 20 or so always as I saw lumber to sell and saw on site for people so need lots of blades and don’t have a lot of time to do it for now. You need 2 things in the shop…. More shelves and a wood stove I’m cold watching you lol. Great job as always.
on your balcony at 8ft. I was just thinking if it under the windows it may make the shop little dark and you may need more lights to compensate for the windows. but i love following you and like all your videos. i always check after i get home from church on Sunday night. keep up the good work!
I purchased that same sharpener when I bought my HM122 but have not had to sharpen blades yet. Dulled about 3 blades last summer and have about 5 box’s of new blades that I have not opened yet. Did not get the tooth bender so I will have to look into that. No one at WM mentioned needing one. Finishing our shop when the snow starts melting and putting a “shelf” all along the perimeter for needed storage to free up our floor space. Thanks for the info. 👍🏻 and subscribed.
Great video. Just starting my journey with my new Hudson sawmill. I've been binge watching your old videos every chance I have. And looking forward to your new ones! Yes. I think you need more space to store stuff in your shop.
Hey Sandy! I’ve never been around saw mills and most of what I’m seeing is for the first time in that regard and your videos are excellent for giving me really good insight to the process! Appreciate you taking time on that cold February day to have us over for a visit and give us this demo and description on this topic! One thing I must mention is I’m learning lots as I’m going through your catalog! Cheers Sandy!
Hey neighbor! Great video. I, too, sharpen blades but of a different nature; I carve. There is nothing more relaxing and therapeutic than sharpening. Of course I use different stones and strops but sharp tools make the task at hand that much easier and satisfying. Nice shop and dinner jacket, lol!
I had a 50x70 shop with a 20x30 wood shop in one corner an a mezzanine 8’high x4’wide all around the perimeter of th building , made a great storage area
You're right about floor space, there is never enough. You are fortunate to have a high ceiling to get stuff up and out of the way. I have kept my used blades for when I get a setter and sharpener.
Yeah the high ceilings are nice especially when getting my tractor inside to work on. I also kept a big stack of blades in hopes of getting a setter and sharpener one day which I did but not for some time after owning my sawmill
Another thing Sandy is make sure you keep your battery for your sharpener up off the concrete floor on a block of wood or something concrete will ruin a battery very quickly
Thanks Sandy, it's always good to have someone go over setting and sharpening blades. I need to sharpen some of mine and you are a good instructor. I can play the video while sharpening and won't forget anything.
Good stuff Sandy.. That is definitely something i need to look into. I got way to many 1 time used blades hanging of the wall in my shop. Keep up the great work there brother.
Yeah I know what ya mean. I had a big pile of full blades after only one use before I had the sharpener and it’s a bit of a shame as like you I’m sure you’d like to be able to get some more life out of them
I'm not sure why you don't want to hit the top of tooth? In my filing room I lightly hit the face, gullet and top of the tooth. I hit everything light enough not to discolor the steel and hard enough to get all of the tips sharp in 2 or 3 rounds:) I have been watching your channel for a over a year and look forward to every episode. I bought a HM130 MAX and even though I have spent the last 35yrs as a head saw filer working in the largest lumber mills in North America, I love cutting timbers on these little mills when I'm not doing it for a living)
I have found not owning a sharpener or having someone that has one is crucial to sawing lumber.. I've had my woodmizer for a few months now I will be ordering a sharpener asap.. I agree on the storage only cause It will be another awsome video. I to have lots of things that need storage as well.
Yeah I know what ya mean Keldy. Having the availability of the sharp blades is key I’ve also found. I’m glad you’re liking the videos, hope all is well with you
How long are your winters? - Hence you have lots of ground material (wood) at your hand, why not build your room extension, even consider itegrating a woodstove to heat up your shop for you working and your "tools" for the time youre in in the winter + maybe adding additional insulation. i don't know if even some solar panels on the roof would benefit to keep your electrical stuff alive. Greetings from Germany
Nice to hear from you! Winters are pretty long. I find that since I'm not in the shop for too long except for short spurts, I decided against a Woodstove. Just didn't want to have to fill it with wood a few hours before I wanted to work out there to be able to get it up to temperature
I sharpen and then set the blades afterwards. Sharpening the blade seems to add set to one side and decreases the set on the other side as you gride the teeth. Good video.
This question is off topic, but I'm trying to decide whether to buy a mill and if so which one. My scenario is similar to yours in that I want to mill wood on my own property to build things (my house, outbuildings, etc.). The mill you have isn't a woodmizer or a norwood (the two that seem to be the most popular/common). What made you choose yours over the other options available to you? Since you already have yours you may not be up on the current portable mill situation, but if you are would you make a different choice now and why? I'm learning a LOT from you on your channel and would greatly appreciate your feedback. Many thanks from Oregon, USA.
I built some Storage shelves up out-of-the-way in my shop and it really did help probably should have thrown away the most of what I put there haha and great Detail on the set and sharpening of blades. You made it so easy to understand as always. Great video and hope things are going good for you
Hey Sandy great video as usual. hope keeping warm during this cold snap. The balcony is a really good idea to free up some space in the old shop lol. Now I think i figured out what those 1 1/2 planks are going to be for that you were sawing at the mill the other day. The only concern I have about the balcony is will it be in the way of your tractor when you bring it in the shop. It hard to get a height perspective watching the different shop videos you have. Sounds like a plan to me. Can't wait to see it. I'm still thrashing over getting or not getting the setter and sharpener, I'm getting quite a bit old blades piling up I'm thinking it would pay for it's self pretty quick. But it's still a lot of money. Kinda kicking myself for not getting it when I got my mill.
I know what ya mean Joey in terms of height. Good considerations for sure. the setter and sharpener is not cheap as you mentioned and so it’s a tough decision for sure
Good Morning Sandy, Consider an AC to DC power converter in place of the battery charger and battery. You'll need one that will support at least 7 Amps I believe the sharpener pulls. If you don't have one laying around go to your local salvage yard and get one from an old travel trailer or other appliance. I did and it works get. Have a toasty day. -6 F here in north central PA this morning.
Sandy, another great video. Like I said before I don't have a sawmill or have ever used one but find it very interesting. I never realized how much more there is involved with a sawmill blade than a chainsaw chain. I just assumed when you dull one you just sharpen it with a tool. Thanks for taking me along on the maintenence of sawyering (if that's even a word.lol)
Any orders now will def be delayed to due the Trucker Convoy thingy. I suppose they made the grinder 12V so it could be run in the field off a vehicle. Too bad you don't have a inverter/converter to run it off 120V AC. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah I think the 12v is handy for sure when out in the bush but as you mentioned, the inverter would be better for me since I normally sharpen in the shop with the 120v. Thanks for watching I appreciate you tuning in
I do a power source when I sharpen too! I would change out that lock nut with a butterfly nut this way you wouldn't need a wrench to change the amount of set! It would just make it quicker. On a 144" it takes about 20 Minutes!
Sandy, I built a dual tooth setter and most of the research stated the set should be around 0.02 inch. I just checked out woodland Mills tooth setter and their manual says to set the teeth at 0.0215 inch which is 0.5461 mm from the blade top or bottom surface. Are you sure your manual says what you stated? It seems to be almost double the amount of set. Maybe the amount of set is taken from a different way/surface.
Hi Mike. Great point you brought up. In my manual it says to achieve a final set of 0.55mm on the tooth to bend it initially to 1.2mm and then after the tooth springs back it will get the final set of 0.55mm. I may have not mentioned that entirely in the video. Appreciate you mentioning it
Hey Sandy what do yo think of the new RS30 pro sharpener? I need to get a sharpener (I have an HM122) and wonder if the extra 300 bucks is worth it over the regular one. Thanks for any input! Cheers, Jon
Great informative video on sharpening ! …. Got a question …. I thought I saw one of your videos a long time ago … where you mill was in the pole barn there , and you were sawing with lady … was I wrong?
I'm fortunate enough that I've got at least 40 blades and I'm able to sharpen them myself I feel bad for all the people who are waiting on blades the last two years I knew years ago if I was going to saw commercially I needed to be able to do it myself
Hi again, Sandy. Reminds me that I need to sharpen my blades too. One question - any particular reason you run the profile on your grinding stone that way? I keep the flat side against the tooth and the rounded side against the gullet. Take care and stay safe.
Great to hear from ya. I actually setup the grinding wheel with the profile like you mentioned but I think I may have filmed myself holding the profile guide on the wrong side by accident
Great video as always. You say that your sharpener will do 7-10-and 14 degree correct? Will it do the in between degrees? I have been running different blades just to see what I like and some are 9 degrees?
Great video! I got my HM 130 MAX the week before Christmas. I built a platform and shed for it around Thanksgiving and was thankful I did. It made assembly so easy. This mill makes me feel cheap and dumb for using my Alaskan chainsaw mill for so many years. My question is: At optimum speed how long does it take for you to set and sharpen 2 dull blades including all setups?
don’t worry I also used an Alaskan mill before my current setup. I’d imagine it takes me about 1.5 hours to get everything setup and two blades sharpened and set
My sharpener has come out of synchronization. The wheel just sharpens the front of the tooth and not the gullet. Just goes straight up and down. Where would I adjust it to make the arm advance the blade while the wheel is still in contact with blade? I have tried the little pocket the acorn nut sits in for the wheel, but no difference. I’m suspecting it has become jarred and the timing between the advancement arm and wheel is off. Any suggestions?
@@sawingwithsandy i have called them they recomand using the same size blade. Not a good ide to get biger blade. I saw the ripper 37 that claim to be 37% stronger or a guys that i know use the montfort blade, he told me they are mutch bether then the one he used to by from northwood. He run a northwood mill. At this point i know nothin about blade so i'll probably by a pack of 10 from woodland when we order the mill.
Have you had any trouble milling with wood being partly frozen? Also what is your opinion on the combination soft/hardwood blades opposed to the soft specific, hardwood specific ones?
I find the frozen wood actually cuts well since it seems quite slippery. I have only cut with the 10 degree angles which is common to cutting hardwood/softwood mixtures and I’ve found it to be good
@@sawingwithsandy Interesting. I have cut some maple and it seems to go better when it is thawed out. As soon as it freezes hard it gets harder to mill. With 30-50km hour winds and drifting snow all over the place milling has been very limited this winter anyhow. All I can do is plow snow or have ridiculous wind with -20 to -30. We need the snow though after the fires all over last year.
Sandy, Are you having problems getting blades for your Mill? A lot here in the states are saying they cannot get them. Due to the makers having problems getting blade stock..
Took me a min to figure out what was happening. I think you are reading how much you bend the tooth, and not how much set is in the tooth. To read the set in the tooth you just have to barely touch the plunger and the set screw to the blade, then take the reading. When those two things touch your blade that reading is your "set". I think you are reading the "bend" in each blade. The other thing i did not see (but i am sure you are doing it) was how to "zero" the tooth setter. Don't forget to do that every time before you start sharping for the day. Nice video, you always do so much better than my videos. Good luck, and i am just trying to help with the tooth setter remarks. Love the channel, hope the snow is not to deep up there !
Don't know if your floor is concrete or not but have heard not to set batteries on concrete floor because is makes battery life shorter. Nice video to learn how to set teeth and sharpen them. On you 8 ft storage area of you build it right it should work for you. Have a great day be safe.
Ledge is a good idea, but once you reclaim floor space, it soon will become full again. 😂 what then another ledge? That is the way of life at least for me
That error on your charger looks like it's is in desulferisation mode. The charger is attempting to restore that battery by removing crystalized sulfur that has built up on the batteries lead plates.
Some people will disagree but I'm old school. When placing a battery on concrete. Put a board under it. The cold concrete will suck the life out of a battery. Not so much the charge but it will shorten it's overall life and ability to hold a charge.
@@sawingwithsandy if that's the case get rid of the modern charger. They are a pain. I use an old school charger and done tests between them. The modern one will say bad battery and the old one will charge it. The idea is to get people to get used to buying batteries sooner do to the electric car industry.
Not sure if you know but putting a battery on concrete is bad for the battery as concrete is a major drain on batteries and tends to cause plates to deteriorate fast, putting a piece of wood under the battery helps a lot but the higher up off concrete the longer the battery will last
i used to try to sharpen my blade by hand and no setter it did not work that great but it did help some now i just use the blade to the extreme and scrap it i pay 22 to 24 per blade when you buy 15 or more at the time since i am not set up for sharpening i found it not worth my time As far of the shelving goes if you put them against the wall not all but some area put one at 6 feet high and another higher at 8 on other walls only the 8 feet one but don't make your shelf's to deep other wise you will hand up with stuff in the back and won't be able to find things any more so make your shelf for the dept of what you are going to put on that shelf have a great day
Note: I typically set the profile of the grinding stone on the sharpener so that the curved edge of the stone faces away from the face of the tooth. In the video I had the grinding stone guide setup backwards by mistake (see your owners manual for details)
I was wondering... You had me thinking I've been doing it all wrong! It's always good to take a gander at the manual since my memory isn't getting any better between sharpenings! Thanks again for the great videos Sandy!
Good catch! I was about to comment on it being backwards. Lol
Thanks for the update 👍
"I should probably get another one, but I should probably do a lot of things" That's basically my life motto.
haha
That’s a t-shirt right there
I vote yes on the storage space, you need floor space.Your vids are so very nice 👍
Thanks Sydney. I think so too about the storage and floor space
I agree, a mezzanine would be sweet!
Keep on, keeping on.
It's been a year and I'm finally having to set up my setter and sharpening system. I bought 25 blades when I got the mill, and I have one box left.... 20 blade sharpening day, let's goooo!
That means you’ve been out making some nice lumber! Win win
@@sawingwithsandy yes sir, adding onto my shop as soon as I make a couple doors for my mill enclosure :)
Nice job, Sandy. Yes that is oddly satisfying. I think I could sit and watch that sharpener in real time 👍😄
Sometimes I watch for too long and realize I’ve making too many fine adjustments
As always, great Video.
Thanks TJ!
Sandy make sure you have a good strong battery you'll burn up that electric motor on the tooth sharpener.
And my 130 Max sawmill came in and I love it thank you sir you were pretty much my inspiration and I bought the same sawmill you have now I got to get the same sharpener and tooth setter 😎👍
That’s great hear Jay. You’ll really like the mill!
@@sawingwithsandy I already love it. The sawmill trailer I'm building should be finished within the week. I'll figure out how to send you pictures. I'm pretty impressed with the way it's coming out so far.
Try to stay warm up there man I'm in plant City Florida so it don't really get or stay cold for long down here.
Hi Sandy just wanted to say thanks for your videos. I recently bought a few acers in the blue mountains here in Washington state. Bought a woodland 130 and assembled it a the home place about 90 miles from the wood land. I live in the desert, no trees. My neighbor think I am nuts. Your videos have been a grate help Thanks.
Good day to You Sandy now as to Your balcony idea,it's definitely Your decision but if You build high enough up just remember then You have to climb up there to put things up there then climb up again when bringing things back down as We get older not a favorable thing to do and You're a master builder how about a lean to the length of Your shop on the left side to put that kind of stuff in the benefits to keeping it on ground level are Huge plus all of us would get another series on You building it which We all Love and look forward to! You Da Man Sandy very instructional and on spot! Thank You Kindly!
Great points about having to carry the items down Michael. Not mine of my favourite things thats for sure. You've got me thinking now about the lean-to idea. Thanks for sharing
I want one! Have a great week Sandy! 👍
Sure are handy! Have a great week as well. Thank you
Sweet cup holder! 😂 Awesome show! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Dan!
My saw blade sharpener and setter is on the way. should arrive tomorrow or Wednesday. I've got a blade to sharpen since I hit the log stops.
been waiting for this episode tbh, it's all learning for me!
That’s great to hear Shawn
gotta love that dinner jacket
Always ready for a special event with this dinner jacket on
I will get such a setup someday, for now I have a local guy set and sharpen my blades 8$ each, I have 20 or so always as I saw lumber to sell and saw on site for people so need lots of blades and don’t have a lot of time to do it for now.
You need 2 things in the shop…. More shelves and a wood stove I’m cold watching you lol. Great job as always.
Can’t go wrong with the $8. I’d go for that as well
on your balcony at 8ft. I was just thinking if it under the windows it may make the shop little dark and you may need more lights to compensate for the windows. but i love following you and like all your videos. i always check after i get home from church on Sunday night. keep up the good work!
Great point about the windows! Glad to have you along on the channel
I purchased that same sharpener when I bought my HM122 but have not had to sharpen blades yet. Dulled about 3 blades last summer and have about 5 box’s of new blades that I have not opened yet. Did not get the tooth bender so I will have to look into that. No one at WM mentioned needing one. Finishing our shop when the snow starts melting and putting a “shelf” all along the perimeter for needed storage to free up our floor space. Thanks for the info. 👍🏻 and subscribed.
Welcome to the channel!
Great video. Just starting my journey with my new Hudson sawmill. I've been binge watching your old videos every chance I have. And looking forward to your new ones!
Yes. I think you need more space to store stuff in your shop.
Great to hear you’re like the older videos. Hope your new sawmill goes well!
Hey Sandy! I’ve never been around saw mills and most of what I’m seeing is for the first time in that regard and your videos are excellent for giving me really good insight to the process! Appreciate you taking time on that cold February day to have us over for a visit and give us this demo and description on this topic! One thing I must mention is I’m learning lots as I’m going through your catalog! Cheers Sandy!
That's great to hear. Happy to hear you're enjoy the. videos.
If you put some boards or plywood on top of the ceiling joists you could store your rarely used items in the "attic".
That’s a good point
@@sawingwithsandy You could also hang some of the things from the joists with hooks or chain / rope.
Hey neighbor! Great video. I, too, sharpen blades but of a different nature; I carve. There is nothing more relaxing and therapeutic than sharpening. Of course I use different stones and strops but sharp tools make the task at hand that much easier and satisfying. Nice shop and dinner jacket, lol!
Sure is nice slowing things down when it comes to sharpening. Nice to see the end results with a great edge
Like so many things, it’s all about the preparation and set up. Nice result.
I agree. Thanks Jeff
I had a 50x70 shop with a 20x30 wood shop in one corner an a mezzanine 8’high x4’wide all around the perimeter of th building , made a great storage area
Now that's a nice shop!
You're right about floor space, there is never enough. You are fortunate to have a high ceiling to get stuff up and out of the way. I have kept my used blades for when I get a setter and sharpener.
Yeah the high ceilings are nice especially when getting my tractor inside to work on. I also kept a big stack of blades in hopes of getting a setter and sharpener one day which I did but not for some time after owning my sawmill
Another thing Sandy is make sure you keep your battery for your sharpener up off the concrete floor on a block of wood or something concrete will ruin a battery very quickly
Very true
Thanks Sandy, it's always good to have someone go over setting and sharpening blades. I need to sharpen some of mine and you are a good instructor. I can play the video while sharpening and won't forget anything.
Great to hear Jimmy! Glad I could help
Basic law of physics. Clutter expands to fill the available space.
Very true
Good stuff Sandy.. That is definitely something i need to look into.
I got way to many 1 time used blades hanging of the wall in my shop.
Keep up the great work there brother.
Yeah I know what ya mean. I had a big pile of full blades after only one use before I had the sharpener and it’s a bit of a shame as like you I’m sure you’d like to be able to get some more life out of them
I'm not sure why you don't want to hit the top of tooth? In my filing room I lightly hit the face, gullet and top of the tooth. I hit everything light enough not to discolor the steel and hard enough to get all of the tips sharp in 2 or 3 rounds:) I have been watching your channel for a over a year and look forward to every episode. I bought a HM130 MAX and even though I have spent the last 35yrs as a head saw filer working in the largest lumber mills in North America, I love cutting timbers on these little mills when I'm not doing it for a living)
Great to hear you're enjoying cutting wood as much as I am. Sure is a great past time!
I have found not owning a sharpener or having someone that has one is crucial to sawing lumber.. I've had my woodmizer for a few months now I will be ordering a sharpener asap.. I agree on the storage only cause It will be another awsome video. I to have lots of things that need storage as well.
Yeah I know what ya mean Keldy. Having the availability of the sharp blades is key I’ve also found. I’m glad you’re liking the videos, hope all is well with you
How long are your winters? - Hence you have lots of ground material (wood) at your hand, why not build your room extension, even consider itegrating a woodstove to heat up your shop for you working and your "tools" for the time youre in in the winter + maybe adding additional insulation. i don't know if even some solar panels on the roof would benefit to keep your electrical stuff alive. Greetings from Germany
Nice to hear from you! Winters are pretty long. I find that since I'm not in the shop for too long except for short spurts, I decided against a Woodstove. Just didn't want to have to fill it with wood a few hours before I wanted to work out there to be able to get it up to temperature
I sharpen and then set the blades afterwards. Sharpening the blade seems to add set to one side and decreases the set on the other side as you gride the teeth. Good video.
I can see your point there. Thanks for watching Ryan
This question is off topic, but I'm trying to decide whether to buy a mill and if so which one. My scenario is similar to yours in that I want to mill wood on my own property to build things (my house, outbuildings, etc.). The mill you have isn't a woodmizer or a norwood (the two that seem to be the most popular/common). What made you choose yours over the other options available to you? Since you already have yours you may not be up on the current portable mill situation, but if you are would you make a different choice now and why? I'm learning a LOT from you on your channel and would greatly appreciate your feedback. Many thanks from Oregon, USA.
Good to see you are dressed for success in your dinner jacket.
Hahah love the dinner jacket just like I love the sludge
I built some Storage shelves up out-of-the-way in my shop and it really did help probably should have thrown away the most of what I put there haha and great Detail on the set and sharpening of blades. You made it so easy to understand as always. Great video and hope things are going good for you
Thanks! All is well here. Sounds like storage shelves are the way to go
Hey Sandy great video as usual. hope keeping warm during this cold snap. The balcony is a really good idea to free up some space in the old shop lol. Now I think i figured out what those 1 1/2 planks are going to be for that you were sawing at the mill the other day. The only concern I have about the balcony is will it be in the way of your tractor when you bring it in the shop. It hard to get a height perspective watching the different shop videos you have. Sounds like a plan to me. Can't wait to see it. I'm still thrashing over getting or not getting the setter and sharpener, I'm getting quite a bit old blades piling up I'm thinking it would pay for it's self pretty quick. But it's still a lot of money. Kinda kicking myself for not getting it when I got my mill.
I know what ya mean Joey in terms of height. Good considerations for sure. the setter and sharpener is not cheap as you mentioned and so it’s a tough decision for sure
Good Morning Sandy, Consider an AC to DC power converter in place of the battery charger and battery. You'll need one that will support at least 7 Amps I believe the sharpener pulls. If you don't have one laying around go to your local salvage yard and get one from an old travel trailer or other appliance. I did and it works get. Have a toasty day. -6 F here in north central PA this morning.
Thanks for that idea Jim. I’m going to have to look into one of these
Thanks for the detailed video. I think I profiled my wheel backwards! I get to double check next time I sharpen my blades.
Glad you liked the video Mike! Happy sawing
Sandy, another great video. Like I said before I don't have a sawmill or have ever used one but find it very interesting. I never realized how much more there is involved with a sawmill blade than a chainsaw chain. I just assumed when you dull one you just sharpen it with a tool. Thanks for taking me along on the maintenence of sawyering (if that's even a word.lol)
You’re always welcome and glad you’re liking the video
Sawyering sounds good to me haha
Thanks Sandy, maybe add a small lean to off the back for more room, and a Woodstove for some heat. What's the white board for.
Yeah that could be a good option Brian. The whiteboard is where I have drawn out plans before for various projects I"m working on
Any orders now will def be delayed to due the Trucker Convoy thingy. I suppose they made the grinder 12V so it could be run in the field off a vehicle. Too bad you don't have a inverter/converter to run it off 120V
AC. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah I think the 12v is handy for sure when out in the bush but as you mentioned, the inverter would be better for me since I normally sharpen in the shop with the 120v. Thanks for watching I appreciate you tuning in
I do a power source when I sharpen too! I would change out that lock nut with a butterfly nut this way you wouldn't need a wrench to change the amount of set! It would just make it quicker. On a 144" it takes about 20 Minutes!
Yeah that's a good point Marc. I like the power source for sure
Sandy thanks for the video, i just got a few blades sharpen just wondering do you set your teeth on every sharpen. have a great evening
Great question. I don't set the teeth on every sharpen unless I notice the blade was cutting poorly when I took it off
How many times can you sharpen a blade??
Sandy, I built a dual tooth setter and most of the research stated the set should be around 0.02 inch. I just checked out woodland Mills tooth setter and their manual says to set the teeth at 0.0215 inch which is 0.5461 mm from the blade top or bottom surface. Are you sure your manual says what you stated? It seems to be almost double the amount of set. Maybe the amount of set is taken from a different way/surface.
Hi Mike. Great point you brought up. In my manual it says to achieve a final set of 0.55mm on the tooth to bend it initially to 1.2mm and then after the tooth springs back it will get the final set of 0.55mm. I may have not mentioned that entirely in the video. Appreciate you mentioning it
Where’d you get the conveyor belt for your floor? I spent my working career designing and fabricating crushing equipment. Good video 👍
Hey Mike! A few years back a lock rock quarry changed out their belts and I was able to get them from them
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Hey Sandy what do yo think of the new RS30 pro sharpener?
I need to get a sharpener (I have an HM122) and wonder if the extra 300 bucks is worth it over the regular one.
Thanks for any input!
Cheers,
Jon
Great informative video on sharpening ! …. Got a question …. I thought I saw one of your videos a long time ago … where you mill was in the pole barn there , and you were sawing with lady … was I wrong?
Hey Garry thanks for watching. I haven't had my mill in a pole barn before. Must have been someone else
I'm fortunate enough that I've got at least 40 blades and I'm able to sharpen them myself I feel bad for all the people who are waiting on blades the last two years I knew years ago if I was going to saw commercially I needed to be able to do it myself
Yeah it’s always a gamble with shipping in my area so like you said it’s nice to not have to worry about that
What are the names of each item. Setter and sharpener? Thabks
How many times can you sharpen the blade before you can use it anymore?
I sharpen around 5 times
Hi sandy What are you do if the blade broke ? do you weld are send some where to repair ?
Great question. At this point I have been just recycling the blades. I may try welding them at some point in the future though
@@sawingwithsandy Thanks for replay
Hi again, Sandy. Reminds me that I need to sharpen my blades too. One question - any particular reason you run the profile on your grinding stone that way? I keep the flat side against the tooth and the rounded side against the gullet. Take care and stay safe.
Great to hear from ya. I actually setup the grinding wheel with the profile like you mentioned but I think I may have filmed myself holding the profile guide on the wrong side by accident
Gordon here, Well hats off to you , I now see that you have automatic sharpener which is great. May I ask what was the price cost total.
Total cost was around 1200cdn if my memory serves me right
Would love a view of the dial while you set the teeth.
I"ll be sure to get a good view of that in the future videos
Great video as always. You say that your sharpener will do 7-10-and 14 degree correct? Will it do the in between degrees? I have been running different blades just to see what I like and some are 9 degrees?
There’s no indentations in between those measurements but I think you could likely clamp down the head to allow for 9
Great video!
I got my HM 130 MAX the week before Christmas. I built a platform and shed for it around Thanksgiving and was thankful I did. It made assembly so easy. This mill makes me feel cheap and dumb for using my Alaskan chainsaw mill for so many years.
My question is: At optimum speed how long does it take for you to set and sharpen 2 dull blades including all setups?
don’t worry I also used an Alaskan mill before my current setup. I’d imagine it takes me about 1.5 hours to get everything setup and two blades sharpened and set
@@sawingwithsandy Wow that was a quick reply! Thanks a lot.
should have added I finally ordered my HM130MAX with 2 bed extensions and tooth setter/blade sharpener.
My sharpener has come out of synchronization. The wheel just sharpens the front of the tooth and not the gullet. Just goes straight up and down. Where would I adjust it to make the arm advance the blade while the wheel is still in contact with blade? I have tried the little pocket the acorn nut sits in for the wheel, but no difference. I’m suspecting it has become jarred and the timing between the advancement arm and wheel is off. Any suggestions?
Forget about this, I discovered the problem - battery hooked up backwards. Good thing this account is under my wife’s name. Signed Brain Fart.
hahah it's all good . I'm sure I"ve done it as well
witch blade do you use?
have you try the 7/8 pitch versus de 3/4 pitch? In witch case I should used the 3/4?
I've only ever used the Lenox blades. I've only ever used the 7/8" pitch as I mostly cut softwood.
@@sawingwithsandy lenox? are those the same as what woodland sale? Should I get the woodland blade?
@@sawingwithsandy have you ever try the 1" 1/2 blade on your woodland?
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this guys seam to like them.
Woodland mills used to sell Lenox blades. I’m not sure if that’s the brand just relabeled as Wodoland Mills blades now though
@@sawingwithsandy i have called them they recomand using the same size blade. Not a good ide to get biger blade. I saw the ripper 37 that claim to be 37% stronger or a guys that i know use the montfort blade, he told me they are mutch bether then the one he used to by from northwood. He run a northwood mill. At this point i know nothin about blade so i'll probably by a pack of 10 from woodland when we order the mill.
I have the same problem 24'x30' shop , have added on two 8'x12 tool room as I call rhem
Funny how it’s never big enough
And the shop is still to small, time two get rid of some things and that has not happened, my shop look like your shop for clutter.
Have you had any trouble milling with wood being partly frozen?
Also what is your opinion on the combination soft/hardwood blades opposed to the soft specific, hardwood specific ones?
I find the frozen wood actually cuts well since it seems quite slippery. I have only cut with the 10 degree angles which is common to cutting hardwood/softwood mixtures and I’ve found it to be good
@@sawingwithsandy Interesting. I have cut some maple and it seems to go better when it is thawed out. As soon as it freezes hard it gets harder to mill.
With 30-50km hour winds and drifting snow all over the place milling has been very limited this winter anyhow. All I can do is plow snow or have ridiculous wind with -20 to -30. We need the snow though after the fires all over last year.
Sandy, Are you having problems getting blades for your Mill? A lot here in the states are saying they cannot get them. Due to the makers having problems getting blade stock..
I haven’t had to buy any lately due to resharpening but I’ll likely be buying some again real soon
Took me a min to figure out what was happening. I think you are reading how much you bend the tooth, and not how much set is in the tooth. To read the set in the tooth you just have to barely touch the plunger and the set screw to the blade, then take the reading. When those two things touch your blade that reading is your "set". I think you are reading the "bend" in each blade. The other thing i did not see (but i am sure you are doing it) was how to "zero" the tooth setter. Don't forget to do that every time before you start sharping for the day. Nice video, you always do so much better than my videos. Good luck, and i am just trying to help with the tooth setter remarks. Love the channel, hope the snow is not to deep up there !
I was referring to how much I bend the teeth in the video
Thanks for watching and glad you’re liking the channel
Sandy do you set the teeth every time you sharpen.
Not every time. But I’d say if it has noticeable grooves in the lumber then I do
Good info buddy.where do you purchase these 12v sharpeners?
I bought mine from Woodland Mills website
Don't know if your floor is concrete or not but have heard not to set batteries on concrete floor because is makes battery life shorter. Nice video to learn how to set teeth and sharpen them. On you 8 ft storage area of you build it right it should work for you. Have a great day be safe.
Hey Arthur! The floor is actually rubber mats sitting on dirt floor. I think the storage is something I’ll think more about for sure
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Ledge is a good idea, but once you reclaim floor space, it soon will become full again. 😂 what then another ledge? That is the way of life at least for me
Haha me too
That error on your charger looks like it's is in desulferisation mode. The charger is attempting to restore that battery by removing crystalized sulfur that has built up on the batteries lead plates.
Good to know thank you
Some people will disagree but I'm old school. When placing a battery on concrete. Put a board under it. The cold concrete will suck the life out of a battery. Not so much the charge but it will shorten it's overall life and ability to hold a charge.
I’ve heard that too. In my case my floor is rubber mats over dirt
@@sawingwithsandy if that's the case get rid of the modern charger. They are a pain. I use an old school charger and done tests between them. The modern one will say bad battery and the old one will charge it. The idea is to get people to get used to buying batteries sooner do to the electric car industry.
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Not sure if you know but putting a battery on concrete is bad for the battery as concrete is a major drain on batteries and tends to cause plates to deteriorate fast, putting a piece of wood under the battery helps a lot but the higher up off concrete the longer the battery will last
I suggest shelving, a loft will probably become a collection of stuff never to be seen again.
I’ll have to see what I can round up
i used to try to sharpen my blade by hand and no setter it did not work that great but it did help some now i just use the blade to the extreme and scrap it i pay 22 to 24 per blade when you buy 15 or more at the time since i am not set up for sharpening i found it not worth my time As far of the shelving goes if you put them against the wall not all but some area put one at 6 feet high and another higher at 8 on other walls only the 8 feet one but don't make your shelf's to deep other wise you will hand up with stuff in the back and won't be able to find things any more so make your shelf for the dept of what you are going to put on that shelf have a great day
I know what ya mean about the value of a setter and sharpener. Lots to consider. I also like the shelf idea
Maybe you can find a sawmill and saw some wood up for a storage shack...
That could be hard to find 😉
I just bought 10 blades for $176.11. I can't justify the cost of a sharpener and a setter. Would love to find a place to recycle my old blades.
Yeah at that price cant blame ya there . Great deal!
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You repeat and talk too much
Glad you liked the video! Thanks for watching