I’m 62 and just left my husband of 40 years. He is Brandon’s twin. Run run run! As fast as you can. Brandon is using narcissistic tactics to weasel his way out of his behavior. He will not change. All he is doing is deflecting, gas lighting, and blame shifting. I wish I had left when I first caught him 30 years ago.
Once a cheater always a cheater, they split up then they reconcile and for a few month everything is great, cause they are in their honeymoon stage, and after that the same cycle starts again and it gets worse each time. I'm speaking from experience. It took me 13 years to get out of a cheating, lying and abusive relationship.... and divorce and healing was the best thing that ever happend to me.
If anyone watching this hasn't had the experience of having a narcissist in their life, just watch. The gas lighting, the accusations, the mental abuse, the outright lies, etc are all classic behaviors. Watch and learn.
Um… the ONLY advice that should be given to this “couple” is to SPLIT UP FOR GOOD. To accept him back is the weakest thing that this woman can do. She’s afraid to be alone, and she hasn’t met anyone better, so she’s willing to settle for a guy like that. She needs to get herself her own VERY good doctor.
He knows what to say to manipulate her while tearing her down. He won’t let her go easily. He knows he can cheat and do whatever he wants. He doesn’t want her to leave because he doesn’t want to pay child support and alimony and not have any control over her. I don’t know how old this show is but I hope she got some self esteem and got away from him safely.
I was also thinking that HE couldn’t find anyone to be with him so that’s why he came back, he’s a creep and it’s likely that other people won’t tolerate his behaviour and his wife is too weak to hold him accountable
Then you're not a friend worth having. People have ow points, some lower than others. You can distance yourself from drama but still show that person love.
THAT's what Narscissts do! They steal the self respect and dignity of the person who is manipulated by them and have them second guessing themselves. That's when they need a real trusted friend the most.
@laurenb6160 forget what the commenter down below talking mess about you not being a friend worth having. continuing to be friends with someone who gets their life threatened and cheated on with teenage girls and is a predator and I DO believe he made a pass at her friend, says that commenter likes drama and toxic mess. Her friend was her biggest advocate and even went to Court to speak on her behalf to get her away from this cheating crazy person. As for any other smart woman we won't be doing that. We prefer peace and we would be friends with our friend again AFTER she dumps the trash.🤷🏽♀️
@ And it matters to you that I edited my comment why? I mean no offense but you don’t need to put down others or try to rub their mistakes in their face to make yourself feel better
@@katybenson4172"ScArEd To SuPpOrT hErSeLf"?? If they divorced then she would literally be in the same boat because she would receive alimony and child support so I don't buy that excuse
"he's very convincable and believing" dear gosh she's not the brightest and he knows that and is taking advantage of her kindness and good heart. So sad
No matter how many times you try to give this creep the benefit of the doubt he just screws it up by opening his mouth. Would love to see where they ended up 20yrs later....
He's what I call a "smooth talker". I've warned my daughters to watch out for that type, along with the charmers. Those are some no good is ever going to come from this type of men...
@LisaDonnelly-w1b exactly. He thinks so highly of himself he thinks he can talk his way around anything. Unfortunately he has a stupid wife who fills his ego and helps fuel his opinion of himself and his narrative he created in his head.
Yes, a smooth talking narcissist. If he does have “a very good doctor”, he’s just using what he learns from them to manipulate his wife. When his wife says “we’re destined to be together”, that sounds like it might be something he’s put in her ear. She needs to take a look around and ask herself why other women (numerous nannies and her best friend) don’t like being around when he’s there. Beyond that she has to ask herself why she wants to be with a serial cheater, groomer, rapist and abuser. No amount of smooth talking could make this man worth it to me. She has to get her own therapist and build her ego enough to realize that being alone is not as scary as being with this sort of man.
@@AL-bv7jt you are absolutely right! People like that aren't quite wired right, so they mimic what they perceive as the correct emotion at that moment. He is mimicing normal behavior because he himself doesn't have real emotions. It's dangerous.
When he started attacking his wife and her best friend, his true colors started showing. His mask slipped, and his wife would be a fool to believe that he's changed.
He's the type that will kill her! His abuse will creep back in and get worse! He won't change, look at his patterns! Hes immature & selfish and he needs to grow up! He said he wants the "American Dream" and thats what he is living now! He would say & fake act anything & everything to get out of having to live in his dad's barn which is just like guys up here that live in their dads basement! I had a physically violent & mental & emotional abusive ex-husband that still hasnt changed for 30 years! In our marriage he got the married teenage nanny pregnant & got our family home into forclosure! His alcohol & pot consumption & bad behavior has never changed!
I gave mine a chance after similar circumstances 27 years ago. I wish I hadn’t. He said he changed but all he did is learn to hide it even better. 40 years of marriage this year and I’m finally getting a divorce because I caught him again.
I am glad you are getting yourself out of a nasty situation. The same happened to me after a 15 year relationship. He cheated once before we married and I made the mistake of taking him back. I did try to dump him but his persistence worked to my my detriment. He cheated again and made sure to say that If I hung on tight he would come crawling back. He got me to use my charge card to buy alot of furniture , new ACs, stereo equipment before I knew he was cheating. I called movers while he was at work and took everything I bought with a few extra items to make up for the interest I would pay. We had no kids which made it easier becase I didn't need to deal with him.
I'm so sorry, Jill. You deserve better. Get everything you can from him in the divorce and go live your life. He chose everyday to waste your time and your youth because he only cares about himself. Treat him with the same level of concern now that it's over and get yourself a good settlement. No feeling sorry for him.
@ Thanks for clarifying, because after I heard the wife watched the husband put pills in her mouth, I assumed when Dr Phil said teenage girl, that she was under 18 would be more believable on why she allowed it, but that was not the case.
What more does this lady need to leave this man? Even if he ONLY put a drug in a teenagers mouth I’d be gone for good. Doesn’t matter how much therapy how how much he’s “changed.” That along with everything else is insane. He needs to be locked up.
He uses gaslighting and cognitive dissonance to confuse his victims. He’s a narcissist. He. Has. Not. Changed. He is hoovering and love bombing his wife. The best friend sees though it and Dr. Phil has questioned him in such a way that his mask is falling and he’s revealing his unchanged true self to his wife.
I had a friend just like her. She kicked her husband out and wanted a break, she cheated on him multiple times and tried justifying it by saying he abandoned her...then once she found out he moved on with someone else after a year she went bolistic and wanted him back. This is after she ran this man into the mud like crazy, even calling the kids school and removing him as an emergency contact etc. she would also always criticize my husband for no reason at all I assume because she was very unhappy. I drew boundaries multiple times and she wouldn't be respectful. One day I just decided to block her on everything. How could I expect her to be a friend when she betrays her own kids and husband. Take this tip, if someone is always unloading their emotional baggage onto you, they are Not your friend.
Brandon is a manchild. Messing with a teenage nanny is a deal breaker. She needs to run. My husband cheated on me with a crackwhore and i took my kids dogs furniture and moved into a apartment.
Just by the way this guy talks to her friend would be enough to make me RUN. Woah, what a mean spirit... only thing he cares about is having the last lash.
There's something really "off" about him. It's pretty scary how unable he is to understand his own behavior. That's normally how psychopaths etc are.. If she ever goes missing we know what happened to her.
Completely believe the nanny his eyes tell the truth almost a smug look. She knows he did this why stay you have kids how long before he turns on the kids
why in the world would any wife/mother in this day and age, hire a young nanny. Hello!! Hire a good older lady who is retired who could be like a grad mother influence. Wise up honey!
I'm a woman in her mid fifties and I COMPLETELY AGREE! Working women, don't be so nieve and reckless. It's not fair to put a young, gorgeous woman who is practically living in your home in front of your husband in the place where his guard is completely down. And no, I in no way am excusing a father/husband cheating in this scenario. However, putting wise safeguards into your home takes temptations off the table. Roles reverse, if you have good-looking male lodger who deeply listens to a wife, satisfies her emotionsally, and also makes her laugh, it has a similar effect that having an 18 Yr old girl with a low cut top can have on a bloke! Let's be smart people.
The bad thing is, I remember a case here where the 53 year-old woman was caught severely beating the couple's son. It's hard to trust ANYone in your home that isn't family.
@ I know sarcasm is hard to spot in written text, should have been a little more obvious. My point was she likely made a bad decision when she chose to hire an 18 year old nanny who, I’m guessing, was probably quite attractive. Hiring a nanny that looked more like her mother would have been a better option.
He definitely has an m.o. with those pain killers. Yeah, the stripes he has are rarely changed. He’s extremely defensive, unapologetic at the crucial moment on this show…nah, he has not changed, period. What he has done to an 18 year old hired as a “Nanny”, drugging her with pain killers is a criminal offense! He’s not owning up to that at all, bottom line he has NOT hanged. Put this piece of trash to the curb permanently. He’s just trying to recoup his reputation, nothing more. He shows no signs of love for his wife, doesn’t even try to hold her hand. She needs to be re-sensitized to feelings of real love. I fear she has on a coat of armor for protection from all the abuse she has had to live through and doesn’t realize or remember what it’s like to have have a man sincerely love her for her. It would be so beautiful for her to heal from all the wrong and really appreciate herself and go on to live a really love filled life. I hope that happens for her and the wonderful children who deserve that kind of life also.
Heidi is 1000% on point with her feelings on this dude. My ex husband acted the exact same way when I discovered his cheating. And as a victim of a narcissistic partner, I will say, go with your gut. If you have that nagging feeling, do some research.
I don't know about once and always. I cheated when I was in my late teens and twenties. I was a coward and selfish. I eventually realized that if I don't want to hurt anyone, then just don't do it. Easier said than done, of course, but we Always have a choice. I never cheated again. I hope I continue making the right choice.
You were young though and learning life as you go about living it,at least you realised you didn't want to be that person and gained knowledge an understanding from that mistake an it's helped you become who you are today,and you can also help someone else goin through or thinking of goin through with cheating as you no from experience.we make mistakes all throughout our lifetime I think they main thing is that you always learn from each mistake and hopefully the older ypu get the more an more time passes between mistakes
He is most definitely not changed and I don't think he will ever change. This smirking person is very active in getting his way. He is a very vocal manipulator; he makes sure he'll live his life HIS way. He lies, defends, deflects, gaslights, blame shifts, threats, cheats, twists everything around, turns people against each other, is extremely mean and vicious, insults, barks and bites. And then he'll lie, deflect and defend some more and more and more in a complete word salad. Damn, he even is horrible to his 5-year-old stepdaughter (same-old sad story, as always). Just the 5 nannies...yeah right, I'm positive that there were, no: ARE many more women. I am sure that he tries to seduce every woman (under a certain age) he comes in contact with. With, or without drug facilitated sexual assault. There is also this dangerous vibe he is carrying. He could kill, if his wife tells him that she's moving out of state, or something like that. Amy's friend Heidi is a very good friend. She is golden! I hope Amy will follow her well advice to stay away from butt-face. Amy, protect yourself and your children, RUN!
Cheater will always cheat, for the wife run away as far as you can he could hurt you and your children god forbid . That man is a control freak and a narcissist .
I think an I could very well be wrong,she was a popular an pretty as young girl an had alot of attention,an I think it's knocked her self esteem an confidence as it would alot of females but I think its hit abit harder for her coz she'll be more in her head questioning herself an doubting herself,imagine being someone who gets lots of attention could probably of dated any boy she wanted,who then gets with a man who she probably believed was her Prince charming coz he probably was completely different in the beginning til he got her,married her,got her pregnant,and somewhere along the line after feelin like he'd got her an she was hooked under his spell,he let his real self be seen by her,she's probably questioning why isn't she good enough for him to treat her good,he must be cheating coz she isn't pretty enough,or satisfying his needs,then he turns his charm on an off leaving her holding onto the person she thought she married,he's probably made he feel worthless an that she'll get no one else,men like him can cause real horrific trauma to a woman,some never get back to who they were before an some have to have years of therapy,an the few who soon as they get out find themselves again.hes what she's nos,he's her safe person/place as bad as he is,she's probably trauma bonded
Why is the best friend living in the same house. She seems way too enmeshed in the situation. She should just keep her distance and continue being a supportive friend to her friend rather than giving ultimatums.
Conditional friendship is not a friendship. How dare her, won’t be her friend if he is in her life. One supports their friends, even if you don’t like their decisions.
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Stop having kids and farming them out to nannies fgs
Brilliant! She wants to marry him if he's a completely different person. How about marrying a completely different person?
Good idea.
This 👆
Very logical.👍
You’re gonna have to stop being realistic 😂
Ha, very good and very true.
The face of a liar. He's pushing blame to be others and deflecting issues onto others.
I’m 62 and just left my husband of 40 years. He is Brandon’s twin. Run run run! As fast as you can. Brandon is using narcissistic tactics to weasel his way out of his behavior.
He will not change.
All he is doing is deflecting, gas lighting, and blame shifting.
I wish I had left when I first caught him 30 years ago.
Good for you !!🎉❤ Sending positive and healing vibes
Good for you
I'm sorry to stayed so long. But now your gone im happy for you
Glad you’re out!!!!
You are incredibly strong ❤
It’s adorable how he gets cornered and he starts hurling insults. What a child.
This dude is a straight up narcissist…
Deflection, word salad, gaslighting, and lying
The cognitive dissonance he’s applying is real. Best friend sees right through him. And he hates it.
Yep
@@thelmadickinson6811🎯🎯🎯🎯👌👌💗
Once a cheater always a cheater, they split up then they reconcile and for a few month everything is great, cause they are in their honeymoon stage, and after that the same cycle starts again and it gets worse each time. I'm speaking from experience. It took me 13 years to get out of a cheating, lying and abusive relationship.... and divorce and healing was the best thing that ever happend to me.
Glad you're out and healing❤
I'm going through it, no contact 2 weeks. I'm reflecting and moving on! It hurts, but I deserve better!! You do too❤
Same 🎉
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Sounds to me so far there are too many people with their nose in the marriage business to start with.
When you order your Tom Cruise from Temu.
😅😅😅 that's great
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Or one of the Menendez brothers.😂
Best comment
Omg! 😂😂😂
If anyone watching this hasn't had the experience of having a narcissist in their life, just watch. The gas lighting, the accusations, the mental abuse, the outright lies, etc are all classic behaviors. Watch and learn.
A narcissist doesn't suddenly care about how others feel
Your right. Nor do they live in reality.
Nope, they think they are perfect so they never change.
Nope, never😞
Excellent 👌 point.
Unless he/she has something in mind to destroy the other person eventually
Dudes a HUGE LIAR. Get rid of him.
He's not going to change! Run!!
This guy is a crime waiting to happen. Run girl, take the kids and run
Right! I was looking at him thinking “yep we are going to see his trial in Court TV one day
EXACTLY!!
Um… the ONLY advice that should be given to this “couple” is to SPLIT UP FOR GOOD. To accept him back is the weakest thing that this woman can do. She’s afraid to be alone, and she hasn’t met anyone better, so she’s willing to settle for a guy like that. She needs to get herself her own VERY good doctor.
🎯💯
He knows what to say to manipulate her while tearing her down. He won’t let her go easily. He knows he can cheat and do whatever he wants. He doesn’t want her to leave because he doesn’t want to pay child support and alimony and not have any control over her. I don’t know how old this show is but I hope she got some self esteem and got away from him safely.
I was also thinking that HE couldn’t find anyone to be with him so that’s why he came back, he’s a creep and it’s likely that other people won’t tolerate his behaviour and his wife is too weak to hold him accountable
💯💯agreed
Love your comment, EXACTLY CORRECT 🎉
I could not be friends with someone with such little self respect and dignity. To heartbreaking.
I’ll be there for my best friend no matter what 🙏🏼
I agree. I would not allow myself to be a part of that drama.
Then you're not a friend worth having. People have ow points, some lower than others. You can distance yourself from drama but still show that person love.
THAT's what Narscissts do! They steal the self respect and dignity of the person who is manipulated by them and have them second guessing themselves. That's when they need a real trusted friend the most.
@laurenb6160 forget what the commenter down below talking mess about you not being a friend worth having. continuing to be friends with someone who gets their life threatened and cheated on with teenage girls and is a predator and I DO believe he made a pass at her friend, says that commenter likes drama and toxic mess. Her friend was her biggest advocate and even went to Court to speak on her behalf to get her away from this cheating crazy person. As for any other smart woman we won't be doing that. We prefer peace and we would be friends with our friend again AFTER she dumps the trash.🤷🏽♀️
The era when middle class families could afford a nanny 😒
Good point!
The era when there was still a middle class 😶
Thanks to Obama/Biden! 🙄
Right?!
This was a way back! I can tell by the chunky hilights. 😅
Edit: hilights in the ladies' hair, that is....lol
@@shonna4545.... chunky highlights ???
5 minutes in and I already know his defensive deflecting attitude shows that he is not changed.
And never will
I'd really like an update on this
Why the heck would this woman want to get back together with a predator? Like he literally hooked up with a teenager who was the nanny!
18 is legal age. But it sure sounds like rape.
@@eleonora6980 Yeah but we don’t know if this happened while the nanny was underage or not though. Still though it’s huge red flag
@jackieb.2642 that's true. We don't know or if the other nanny's were
@jackieb.2642 i see you edited your comment to remove "child" and just have "predator". I completely agree now haha. He is definitely a predator!
@ And it matters to you that I edited my comment why? I mean no offense but you don’t need to put down others or try to rub their mistakes in their face to make yourself feel better
My husband and I have been married for 55 years. We are very blessed!
Congratulations?
That is awesome. What’s your secret for making it work?
♥♥♥
What in the world does that have to do with this situation at all? Are you drunk?
@@kymerwin8870she’s been with the same man for 55 years, ofc she’s drunk 😂
As someone that has friends who constantly complain about their significant other, it really drives you crazy.
All other things to the side, this guy has the creepiest smirk I have seen in a long time. Probably since the Dahmer documentaries. My opinion.
Agreed
He reminds me a lot of a young Jack Nicholson (in this case, maybe The Shining). Even his voice and the famous "Kubrick Stare"
I agree!
Best case scenario, he's a serial cheater, worst case he's a grapist! Why would anyone want to stay with that 🤮
Lose, lose situation. He constantly deflected. The fact the nanny was very young gave me the creeps!
Because she is scared to support herself. Sometimes you stay because you think you need them
@@katybenson4172"ScArEd To SuPpOrT hErSeLf"?? If they divorced then she would literally be in the same boat because she would receive alimony and child support so I don't buy that excuse
@@aimee6580 He drugged her and took it from there. Why would she want such a creep?
@@Naturefan354 Her parents pay them between $3000.00 to $6000.00 a month because he does not support his family. He is a looser that she should lose.
"he's very convincable and believing" dear gosh she's not the brightest and he knows that and is taking advantage of her kindness and good heart. So sad
I actually said convincable out loud and had a giggle! 😂
I ran out of sympathy very quickly. She is bringing up her children to see his behaviour as perfectly acceptable. That is on her.
No matter how many times you try to give this creep the benefit of the doubt he just screws it up by opening his mouth.
Would love to see where they ended up 20yrs later....
We never find out the outcome!
He's what I call a "smooth talker". I've warned my daughters to watch out for that type, along with the charmers. Those are some no good is ever going to come from this type of men...
I call him a narcissist with a too high opinion of himself!
@LisaDonnelly-w1b exactly. He thinks so highly of himself he thinks he can talk his way around anything. Unfortunately he has a stupid wife who fills his ego and helps fuel his opinion of himself and his narrative he created in his head.
Yes, a smooth talking narcissist. If he does have “a very good doctor”, he’s just using what he learns from them to manipulate his wife. When his wife says “we’re destined to be together”, that sounds like it might be something he’s put in her ear. She needs to take a look around and ask herself why other women (numerous nannies and her best friend) don’t like being around when he’s there. Beyond that she has to ask herself why she wants to be with a serial cheater, groomer, rapist and abuser. No amount of smooth talking could make this man worth it to me. She has to get her own therapist and build her ego enough to realize that being alone is not as scary as being with this sort of man.
@@AL-bv7jt you are absolutely right! People like that aren't quite wired right, so they mimic what they perceive as the correct emotion at that moment. He is mimicing normal behavior because he himself doesn't have real emotions. It's dangerous.
Liar and a cheat!
When he started attacking his wife and her best friend, his true colors started showing. His mask slipped, and his wife would be a fool to believe that he's changed.
I agree!
He turns every situation from looking at him to look at someone else. He’s not taking ownership of anything. He. Has. Not. Changed.
He's the type that will kill her! His abuse will creep back in and get worse! He won't change, look at his patterns! Hes immature & selfish and he needs to grow up! He said he wants the "American Dream" and thats what he is living now! He would say & fake act anything & everything to get out of having to live in his dad's barn which is just like guys up here that live in their dads basement! I had a physically violent & mental & emotional abusive ex-husband that still hasnt changed for 30 years! In our marriage he got the married teenage nanny pregnant & got our family home into forclosure! His alcohol & pot consumption & bad behavior has never changed!
Lady love your children enough to get out away from this liar and cheater!
I gave mine a chance after similar circumstances 27 years ago. I wish I hadn’t. He said he changed but all he did is learn to hide it even better. 40 years of marriage this year and I’m finally getting a divorce because I caught him again.
I'm so sorry you went through this
I am glad you are getting yourself out of a nasty situation. The same happened to me after a 15 year relationship. He cheated once before we married and I made the mistake of taking him back. I did try to dump him but his persistence worked to my my detriment. He cheated again and made sure to say that If I hung on tight he would come crawling back. He got me to use my charge card to buy alot of furniture , new ACs, stereo equipment before I knew he was cheating. I called movers while he was at work and took everything I bought with a few extra items to make up for the interest I would pay. We had no kids which made it easier becase I didn't need to deal with him.
I'm sorry 🫂
Sorry but you will be so much happier loving and respecting yourself ❤
I'm so sorry, Jill. You deserve better. Get everything you can from him in the divorce and go live your life.
He chose everyday to waste your time and your youth because he only cares about himself. Treat him with the same level of concern now that it's over and get yourself a good settlement. No feeling sorry for him.
He’s so childish and petty, lying so easily, what a drop kick.
He sees a female counselor? Good lord
My thoughts exactly😅😅😅
Drug abuse, adultery, teen nanny’s! Who is taking care of these poor kids? They shouldn’t be married or have kids! Ugh
BRING ON the NANNIES! I’d love to hear their version of events!
That young man is very very very very very very immature and she should not marry him again for her own sanity😮
If he had an Affair with a teenage nanny why isn’t he in jail?
She was 18
@ Thanks for clarifying, because after I heard the wife watched the husband put pills in her mouth, I assumed when Dr Phil said teenage girl, that she was under 18 would be more believable on why she allowed it, but that was not the case.
Because he is a white Male and a smooth talker…probably talked his way out the charges or knew the police. 😊
The husband is an idiot and the wife is not far behind. He is a liar for sure and he thinks he is really so clever.
@@teehee83that was pretty racist!
He just wants to gain her trust again so he can start lying and cheating again.
He’s love bombing because he needs supply and he has no other to get what he needs so he’s settling for her. Until someone else comes along.
This dude has an answer for everything. Even the little comments and little diggs he throws out there is telling. 😮
He is a jerk and she is an idiot by thinking he has changed.
His aggressive nature is disgusting. You don't hit, scream or swear at your woman no matter what. She should be very worried - and I think she is 💗
What more does this lady need to leave this man? Even if he ONLY put a drug in a teenagers mouth I’d be gone for good. Doesn’t matter how much therapy how how much he’s “changed.” That along with everything else is insane. He needs to be locked up.
Her and her friend there are both on those same drugs every adult up there is a mess and I feel so sorry for those children!
He uses gaslighting and cognitive dissonance to confuse his victims. He’s a narcissist. He. Has. Not. Changed. He is hoovering and love bombing his wife. The best friend sees though it and Dr. Phil has questioned him in such a way that his mask is falling and he’s revealing his unchanged true self to his wife.
Praying for the children🙏
I'm disgusted to know this man is a fire fighter.
A changed man😂😂😂
The wife should stop dragging everybody into her problems and emotionally draining her friend and family onlt to go back
I had a friend just like her. She kicked her husband out and wanted a break, she cheated on him multiple times and tried justifying it by saying he abandoned her...then once she found out he moved on with someone else after a year she went bolistic and wanted him back. This is after she ran this man into the mud like crazy, even calling the kids school and removing him as an emergency contact etc. she would also always criticize my husband for no reason at all I assume because she was very unhappy. I drew boundaries multiple times and she wouldn't be respectful. One day I just decided to block her on everything. How could I expect her to be a friend when she betrays her own kids and husband. Take this tip, if someone is always unloading their emotional baggage onto you, they are Not your friend.
Narcissistic blame shifting gaslighting causing confusion
Yes, my thoughts too.
Absolutely on point
Brandon is a manchild. Messing with a teenage nanny is a deal breaker. She needs to run. My husband cheated on me with a crackwhore and i took my kids dogs furniture and moved into a apartment.
Just by the way this guy talks to her friend would be enough to make me RUN. Woah, what a mean spirit... only thing he cares about is having the last lash.
She needs to leave him. He needs to go😡
He’s not changed. He will go back to cheating once she takes him back.
There's something really "off" about him. It's pretty scary how unable he is to understand his own behavior. That's normally how psychopaths etc are.. If she ever goes missing we know what happened to her.
Everything's "in the past" with a narcissist.
Yes everything except your faults which are mild in comparison
Completely believe the nanny his eyes tell the truth almost a smug look. She knows he did this why stay you have kids how long before he turns on the kids
He’s a dangerous, malignant narcissist. Red flag city 🚩
why in the world would any wife/mother in this day and age, hire a young nanny. Hello!! Hire a good older lady who is retired who could be like a grad mother influence. Wise up honey!
I'm a woman in her mid fifties and I COMPLETELY AGREE! Working women, don't be so nieve and reckless. It's not fair to put a young, gorgeous woman who is practically living in your home in front of your husband in the place where his guard is completely down. And no, I in no way am excusing a father/husband cheating in this scenario. However, putting wise safeguards into your home takes temptations off the table. Roles reverse, if you have good-looking male lodger who deeply listens to a wife, satisfies her emotionsally, and also makes her laugh, it has a similar effect that having an 18 Yr old girl with a low cut top can have on a bloke! Let's be smart people.
Why would any women stay married to a man she couldn't trust around another women? Don't blame the young nanny who just wants to do her job.
Maria Shriver
She mentioned she had had shoulder surgery.
The bad thing is, I remember a case here where the 53 year-old woman was caught severely beating the couple's son. It's hard to trust ANYone in your home that isn't family.
I love when the people call out the show for doctoring up scenes like him doing push ups. It’s so funny.
Its called a dramatzion.. to show thats what he does.
Dear girl, run for your life!!
She should have hired her mother as a nanny.
No she shouldn't have married that man!
@ that would have been prior to the Nanny hiring. Yes, bad choice for a husband.
She should be able to trust her husband
What makes you think her mother wants to cook clean and babysit all day? Tf 🤦
@ I know sarcasm is hard to spot in written text, should have been a little more obvious. My point was she likely made a bad decision when she chose to hire an 18 year old nanny who, I’m guessing, was probably quite attractive. Hiring a nanny that looked more like her mother would have been a better option.
This guy is the definition of predator.
He definitely has an m.o. with those pain killers. Yeah, the stripes he has are rarely changed. He’s extremely defensive, unapologetic at the crucial moment on this show…nah, he has not changed, period. What he has done to an 18 year old hired as a “Nanny”, drugging her with pain killers is a criminal offense! He’s not owning up to that at all, bottom line he has NOT hanged. Put this piece of trash to the curb permanently. He’s just trying to recoup his reputation, nothing more. He shows no signs of love for his wife, doesn’t even try to hold her hand. She needs to be re-sensitized to feelings of real love. I fear she has on a coat of armor for protection from all the abuse she has had to live through and doesn’t realize or remember what it’s like to have have a man sincerely love her for her. It would be so beautiful for her to heal from all the wrong and really appreciate herself and go on to live a really love filled life. I hope that happens for her and the wonderful children who deserve that kind of life also.
The first step is accountability and he’s not even doing that!
He hasn't changed, he's gotten more sneaky, crafty." Two wrongs don't make a right but what if she goes out and have "fun?"
Omg the looks he gives her friend when shes talking is kinda scary 😮
Because she has his number and he doesn’t like it.
He definitely still wants to sleep with the wife’s best friend
Absolutely!
Brandon should've had a lie detector....
When is DR Phil do a 'where are they now?
When they were doing the interviews at the beginning of the show, I could see it by the smirk on his face that he would definitely do it again. Js
Imagine staying with someone who says that stuff to your best friend?
Heidi is 1000% on point with her feelings on this dude. My ex husband acted the exact same way when I discovered his cheating. And as a victim of a narcissistic partner, I will say, go with your gut. If you have that nagging feeling, do some research.
Every time he talks about the affair he starts smiling. He’s not sorry. I hope the wife can gather the strength to leave.
Just because other people may engage in the same types of behavior does not make it OK or justifiable for you to do the same
That wife is so gullible. He is a BIG FAT LIAR. Get it now?
Looks likke narcistic victim behavior
It is the atraction of the lovebommming with a low selfestime
I don't know about once and always. I cheated when I was in my late teens and twenties. I was a coward and selfish. I eventually realized that if I don't want to hurt anyone, then just don't do it. Easier said than done, of course, but we Always have a choice. I never cheated again. I hope I continue making the right choice.
You were young though and learning life as you go about living it,at least you realised you didn't want to be that person and gained knowledge an understanding from that mistake an it's helped you become who you are today,and you can also help someone else goin through or thinking of goin through with cheating as you no from experience.we make mistakes all throughout our lifetime I think they main thing is that you always learn from each mistake and hopefully the older ypu get the more an more time passes between mistakes
Everyone needs a best friend like that
Ugh. Narcissist. Run girl RUN.
Constant deflecting to Heidi. "Did you guys call me names? Yes. There has been name calling from everyone"
HE HAS NOT CHANGED !!! I DON'T BELIEVE HE WILL CHANGE, THIS TRULY LOOKS LIKE HIS PERSONALITY. 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 YOU WILL BE SORRY 🙏 😢😢😢❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Poor kids😮 these people are just nuts!!! All of them should just move on for the sake of the children 🙄 😒 0
I don't like anyone in this triangle.
Why is the wife still with this jerk 😂
He is most definitely not changed and I don't think he will ever change.
This smirking person is very active in getting his way.
He is a very vocal manipulator; he makes sure he'll live his life HIS way.
He lies, defends, deflects, gaslights, blame shifts, threats, cheats, twists everything around, turns people against each other, is extremely mean and vicious, insults, barks and bites.
And then he'll lie, deflect and defend some more and more and more in a complete word salad.
Damn, he even is horrible to his 5-year-old stepdaughter (same-old sad story, as always).
Just the 5 nannies...yeah right, I'm positive that there were, no: ARE many more women. I am sure that he tries to seduce every woman (under a certain age) he comes in contact with. With, or without drug facilitated sexual assault.
There is also this dangerous vibe he is carrying.
He could kill, if his wife tells him that she's moving out of state, or something like that.
Amy's friend Heidi is a very good friend. She is golden!
I hope Amy will follow her well advice to stay away from butt-face.
Amy, protect yourself and your children, RUN!
Just dump him get custody of kids let him be miserable, cheat all alone. If she’s stupid enough to stay let her go
Cheater will always cheat, for the wife run away as far as you can he could hurt you and your children god forbid . That man is a control freak and a narcissist .
This guy is a real DH
Narcissist 101
If this guy is as innocent as he says he is, then why would he want to be with a woman who is "conspiring" against him?
‘Very convincible’ and ‘very believing’? I think she means ‘very convincing’ and ‘very believable’🤣
Both the ex wife and ex husband are stuttering and circling around their answers. Big flag they aren’t giving the full answer
Brandon probably cheated on her the whole time
What is wrong with this woman. How blind is she about her husband. Woman run for your life.
Read up on coersive controll
I think an I could very well be wrong,she was a popular an pretty as young girl an had alot of attention,an I think it's knocked her self esteem an confidence as it would alot of females but I think its hit abit harder for her coz she'll be more in her head questioning herself an doubting herself,imagine being someone who gets lots of attention could probably of dated any boy she wanted,who then gets with a man who she probably believed was her Prince charming coz he probably was completely different in the beginning til he got her,married her,got her pregnant,and somewhere along the line after feelin like he'd got her an she was hooked under his spell,he let his real self be seen by her,she's probably questioning why isn't she good enough for him to treat her good,he must be cheating coz she isn't pretty enough,or satisfying his needs,then he turns his charm on an off leaving her holding onto the person she thought she married,he's probably made he feel worthless an that she'll get no one else,men like him can cause real horrific trauma to a woman,some never get back to who they were before an some have to have years of therapy,an the few who soon as they get out find themselves again.hes what she's nos,he's her safe person/place as bad as he is,she's probably trauma bonded
Why is the best friend living in the same house. She seems way too enmeshed in the situation. She should just keep her distance and continue being a supportive friend to her friend rather than giving ultimatums.
A true friend supports you period. Not just when they do what you want them to
Cheaters never change. Period.
Narcissists are worse than demons 😈 😢😢😢
How horrible!
The friend has just taken over the household
This guy is ice cold. Run
Ginger needs to get out of their marriage.
This guy really showed his true colours with the nasty low blow comments to the friend. He's totally made numerous passes at her
And you can tell he still wants her.
Conditional friendship is not a friendship. How dare her, won’t be her friend if he is in her life. One supports their friends, even if you don’t like their decisions.
Classic sociopath. My aunt was one. Overmedicating me n stealing my whole college fund then asking how im doing to the rest of my family
when a man like that cheats with babysitters, he's always a cheater