Nitpicking Brownells XBRN16E1 Retro AR Rifle (Beat The Heat By Reviewing This Colt XM16E1 Clone)
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- Its way too hot out to actually shoot, so lets take a look at and nitpick the old XBRN16E1 from Brownells. We'll compare this Colt XM16E1 semi-auto clone with an original SP1 and also a M16A1 built from a parts kit. Just how faithful of a replica is this rifle anyway?
Here is our earlier review and nitpick of Brownells BRN601 (Colt Model 01 USAF clone):
• Brownells BRN-601 Retr...
And here is the video where Jay fixed the green furniture too, why not?
• Painting Brownells 601...
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I'm a simple man. I see Misha uploaded a new video, I click it.
He’s done it 1.3k times. Time to graduate from simple to connoisseur.
The dimple in the "push-pin" is a guide for a tool. Think of the original M-16 sights. To adjust them you use. A 5.56 round.
My BASIC training in 1989 featured M16A1 s. Never really bonded with the A2 the way I did with the A1. The triangle grips were much better than the A2 round and ribbed for your pleasure ones. Viet Nam era rifle, still qualified expert.
The triangle handguards are notorious for breaking, that's why you see so many M16/M16A1s retrofitted with A2 handguards. I do like the grip of the triangle handguards better though.
I loved the a2!!! Felt like a real battle rifel I had both
You are well rounded AF in the historical attributes of these fine weapons!
Ahhhh.... MORE AR15 material, presented by Misha (big ol' Smile on face ensues). :D
I have the A1 version. Really like it. I wish they still made them cause I was going to buy the E1 as well.
I'd be curious to see one of the Brownells A1s compared to the new H&R (PSA) A1s. Both seem to be fine rifles.
Mike from Nodak Spud is the President of H&R and he is using the same manufacturing as the Nodak Parts and he supplied Brownells with the components for their rifles
@@Droodog127 he supplied the receivers, IIRC. Brownells manufactured the rest. I don't know if they're still following that arrangement, however, as I HOPE he has access to greater manufacturing capabilities than what he had at NDS. I also wouldn't be surprised if both companies took different approaches on how to implement modern parts and materials in an effort to cut costs.
@@LAHFaust looks like Mike is subcontracting components of better quality like the hand guards , I got a set of their new carbine clones and they are near to Colt and Colt Canada construction
I found a surplus E1 upper a long time ago and ended up putting it on a retro Brownell's lower. It's a joy to shoot and carry. If the Army had developed a flattop version of this rifle with some type of lightweight rail system (and with a faster rifling twist), it would be a perfect rifle today.
I’ve had that exact rifle since they came out. Too bad brownells retro line is done for but the H&R retro lines through PSA has more than taken up this mantle. Mine has been nothing but an excellent weapon. Zero issues and shoots M193 ball in the ~2.5 MOA for 5 shot groups fairly consistently. I put a brownells retro scope on it which is also awesome for what it is.
Would love to see y'all review an H&R (PSA/NDS) sample of AR-15. Doesn't matter which, just any at all would be pretty sweet.
Maybe some day, anything's possible.
Just finished up a C8 clone buddy. Triad rail! Passed up on a couple retro uppers last couple week. A Colt A1 upper with FN USGI A2 barrel, might still grab that one for a C7 clone. 723 colt upper but it was a parts rebarrel sp1 receiver and 723 barrel
Snapping together a BCM4 upper with a 20” Faxon Gunner 1:8” with the ODG A1 forend. F marked A2 post. Bravo BCG. AP Gen 2 lower.
I wanted the 1:8” with M4 ramps and a flattop
I get being historically accurate but I wanted something lends itself to the past but can run modern optics of my choosing, and a carry handle when I wanna scratch that itch.
Just rambling 😊
A Canadian C7A1 clone might scratch your itch and also have some history at the same time.
@@misha5670I just think they are one of the most comfortable firearms made. Kind of like a Fender Stratocaster is to the 🎸 🌎
Not only aesthetically pleasing but functional. I have CN4 palsy, 1 year post op. I am still relearning how to see and in order for me to keep both eyes open I need an upright shooting position. Eventually I will get an optic mounted atop an A1 upper. I like building to suit my needs.
I subscribed for your knowledge on my A3 M1 and everything you care to share about. Keep up the great content. I have always been an enthusiast and up until Covid had only armed myself with a 10/22 and said Stratocaster. I am getting my based small arms in my safe and eventually hope to collect some thing worth collecting. I think you’re a very underrated guntuber. Very knowledgeable, no fluff, on point and extremely well-spoken.
Always enjoy listening to you rattle away. Stay safe my friend
It would be nice if you could do a review like this of different reproductions like the ones from palmetto seeing how close to the original they are. Thanks always love the videos
Why doesn’t Brownells still produce the retro series of M16’s? They sold a shitload of them, why don’t they reintroduce them!?
Because they were sourcing their uppers and lowers from Nodak Spud. Nodak Spud was bought by JJE Capital Holdings, the parent company for Palmetto State Armory. PSA now sells a retro series of M16 variants under the trade name Harrington & Richardson. Harrington & Richardson was at one time a supplier of M16s for the U.S. military during Vietnam, along with Colt and GM Hydramatic. When Harrington & Richardson went out of business their assets and trade name went through multiple hands - Marlin, Remington, until eventually being bought by JJE. All that to say if you want a rifle like this the Harrington & Richardson line from PSA is the way to go. Many reviews have stated that the quality has improved under PSA compared to the Brownells contracts, and big plus for the collector is that since H&R was a legit supplier you'll get a "clone correct" roll mark as well. Additionally these rifles are coming in a little bit cheaper as well.
@@w.r.harvey7751 Thanks!
The only thing I change about your setup is adding a Brownells Retro 4x scope like they use back in the day.
Love these pieces... i think you'd like the new dirty bird mcfa lower being that it feels really nice in the hands, plus the function of bolt lock and release is amazing being the price point
Well done on this rifle.
I picked up the Colt-branded XM16E1 reissue. It's a nice improvement on the earlier M16A1 they did. For example, they now roll mark the barrel with "MP" and "12". For a 1967 gun, most things are correct and you get the real markings which set it apart from the Brownells. There are still a couple of errors though, like the pivot pin lug not being counter bored and (as you pointed out on the Brownells equivalent) the front sling swivel uses a rivet instead of a roll pin.
Yes, I like! Yes, AR deep dive, GO FOR IT!
That's crazy Misha alot of my uppers have had dimpled pins. And it never crossed my mind to beable use a bullet tip.. and one more thing I would like to pick up a bayonet for a ar15. How do they differ from ak bayonets. What's the proper name for standard ar15 bayonets. I'm more of a full blown ak guy. But my army buddy keeps me running drills with ARs so I'm comfortable with both aks and ars. I like my ar15s. But I love my aks they are just way cooler and I love the history behind kalashnikovs. They have always kept my attention
18:47 No? It's .315 I believe on the SP1. Definitely not .230 its larger than the standard .250 milspec pins not smaller. The hole spacing is also slightly different but its close enough that an offset bushing(or two offset bushings if modifying the SP1 lower to accept a milspec pin upper) can allow use of a milspec pin upper on SP1 lower or vice versa.
My intention was to say .320. Sorry if i misspoke; prefer to the video's description lol.
took 3 years but I finally got a Chrome serrated bolt carrier for my XM16E1 now all original less the lower
Brings me back Misha. BTW That RAS ammo is probably Tula ammo in my experience. I actually haven’t had any reliability issues with Tula
After searching and searching for several years, I have found only two manufacturers of reproduction handguards that fit absolutely perfect and are shaped exactly as originals. One has a rougher texture but is otherwise exactly the same and the other is smoother and also has a perfect shape. The Brownells handguards and every other manufacturer are all wrong and don't even fit the metal handguard endcaps properly. Sadly one of those two are now currently discontinued and the company went out of business. Only new old stock is left.
Could you share some good places to look for them? Thanks
In 1973-1979, we used M-16A1 loved it ,it was light and accurate. I'd bet my life with it. US Army 🇺🇸 🪖 🫡
Added a 1968 SP1 to my collection, it had the half moon bolt carrier with undercut exposed firing pin, anti misfire hammer with firing pin catch cut. Bolt and carrier were in horrible condition, caked with carbon and deep pitting, picked up the chrome BCG from Brownells on sale, SP1 is slab side lower with large front screw/pin, upper has no shell deflector or forward assist. Does have A1 birdcage with split washer and the straight D ring and A1 with trap door butstock with non pivot sling ring. I did rebuild the old bolt and carrier with a new firing pin, extractor spring, extractor, and saved all the old parts too.
What is your SP1's serial number?
@@misha5670 SP118-XXX series
A 118000 serial around be around 1979. Common mistake; thinking the serial prefix is 'SP1'. It is not. it is 'SP'. So the early guns were 5 digits starting with a '0'. Around 1968, you had SP10000, five digit, not six.
Palmetto States H&R Line of AR’s are Using The Nodak Spud Upper Receivers 604 and M16E1/A1 Now 😀
My OCD was increasing throughout the video in direct correlation to Hobo the Cat meowing and not having the door opened for him.
At first, it was a phantom sound that I thought I heard nearby. By the end I was twitching, hoping someone opened the door for him.
Love the review breakdown. 👍
“It came in my hands” 😅
I can't believe he didn't see that coming.
@@LAHFaust😂
Thank you
Hi Misha, quick question for you: I was wondering your thoughts between the barrels on the Colt Model 601 and 602, basically the 1in14 and 1in12 twist rates, the differences and the advantage and disadvantages of both. From what I read on a blog 1in14 was more destructive since the round started tumbling the moment it made contact as opposed to the 1in12 stats tumbling after a few inches penetration, the 1in12 is 40% less damaging. I also read 1in12 is more accurate than 1in14 (using the 55gr round) at 100 yards, and the 1in12 will travel farther and more accurate way farther down range. I was wondering your thoughts on this and what you may know about those two twist rates. thanks ! I want to eventually do a retro full length rifle build and maybe 1in14 being more rare twist rate and for the curiosity and hype at the range with watermelons and coconuts with the 55grs rounds. Just a thought.. Looking for some feedback and suggestions. :D
I sense that Colt took quite a gamble when they acquired the rights to the AR, tooled up their factory and mass produced the rifle.
Guess what, speaking of mentioning the FN FAL… if the US military were to adopt the FAL instead of the T44 [M14], the FAL too can also be surpassed by the AR15, and it’s largely because of the interest by the US Air Force. So, it doesn’t matter whether it’s the M14 or the FAL… and we’ll still have the AR15 unless if the AR10 were to not exist.
😀😮😮😮😀😎 Love The AR Rifles Misha 😀😎
The flashing is from the parting line of the mold the casting was made in. I worked in 2 different foundries to know how castings are made.
Who sells the shiny chrome bolts?
Nothing like a real colt I do not trust these guns who knows were they are made and of what
Resale value will be much better on a colt hodge podge parts gun no thanks
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バイポット、、、な、懐かしい。
You can send it to me Misha
hi again Mishaco, do you think it would be possible to get a full auto M16 from Vietnam as they are still keeping stockpiles from all the captured weapons ? Any estimates on the price of a reissued refurbished piece ?
In the US at least they can't import them legally for the civilian market. Although everything but the stripped lower can be(even FA M16 parts).
He cannot get.
I've seen deactivated ones in Europe from European stores,they can't fire but I would love to have one.
@@davidschaadt3460 funny thing is I think functional full auto lowers are legal in some european countries and theyr'e bigtime illegal in the US. But the uppers tend to be illegal in said countries that allow the lowers.
@@davidschaadt3460 Arkansas is close to Europe but oddly not Europe.
I had an early Colt SP1Sporter.I made a nice profit selling it in '96 .But it haunts me every day. At 68 I might try to find another.,or an early style clone.🪖🪖