Psychoanalyst puts Brexit Britain on the couch. Part 2: Former Conservative minister Nick Boles

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  • @Fishingadventureuk
    @Fishingadventureuk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A very principled person indeed if you agree with him or not

    • @sterlingforever4913
      @sterlingforever4913 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did the right thing, stepping down because he couldn't accept the will of the people.

    • @anderslee99
      @anderslee99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is he bollox!

    • @maxfriis
      @maxfriis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @StonkingDave Nowhere in the world are politicians foolish enough to put a referendum on a issue that has no democratic backing. Ohh - they did in the UK i guess.

    • @alipaf2002
      @alipaf2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boles claimed £930.60 in Parliamentary expenses for Hebrew lessons so that he could better communicate with his Israeli boyfriend Shay Meshulam

    • @glyntutt1586
      @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @alipaf2002 : yep...... career politicians interested in promoting themselves and their personal ideas.
      Welcome to the revolution...... these days are gone!
      Brexit!

  • @adampowell5376
    @adampowell5376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I agree that the Brexiters are living in collective mental breakdown.

    • @chrisjmirvine4980
      @chrisjmirvine4980 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adam Powell comedy gold

    • @adampowell5376
      @adampowell5376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisjmirvine4980 I don't understand what you are trying to say.

    • @glyntutt1586
      @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Russian Troll so Im told : yep keep telling yourself that people like me are thick and stupid and I will keep voting against the establishment.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@glyntutt1586 You're voting against your own interests, not against the establishment. The 'establishment' will benefit from a hard Brexit - if they are rich it will give them greater freedom to invest in tax havens or low wage economies without being subject to the same financial regulations they are now. Those who really care about the nation as a whole are more concerned about the impact a hard Brexit will have on ordinary people and their livelihoods. Besides it looks as though we will be more under the thumb of the USA once we leave. If we want deals with them, they will want us to follow their aggressive foreign policies and accept their lower standards on food, animal welfare, environment and public health as well as buying goods from them rather than backing or starting our own industries.

    • @glyntutt1586
      @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@@heliotropezzz333 : What utter drivel - Project Fear all over again. It is the grass roots of the country; people from all warps of life who voted Brexit. The Establishment is not currently representative of the people and Brexit is a Revolt against what it has become.
      One key advantage of Brexit will be the greater democratic Freedom we will have to determine our political Policy.
      You assume too much about the EU - have you ever lived in France, Italy, Germany or Spain (countries with working economies, or at least were working)?
      You varied points are well argued from a central Policy making socialist standpoint, but please listen to us Brexiteers - we want our democratic systems to represent us and we want to hold our lawmakers to account. Brexit will not change the Famer Market movement, and I hardly see how much more corrupt the fianncial system will become by not being in the EU (thank God we don't have the €EURO!!).
      As for deals with other countries, I hardly think that, as there is no current FTA with the USA and the EU, we need to rush into anything without having a clear policy after we have left the EU.
      I do wish that the fearmongering would stop. The world will continue rotating, people will still want to sell us their produce etc.. Can you at least come up with something original?
      What is wrong with voting for altruistic reasons as opposed to my interests? I'm 47, I care little about my future, the path is now defined. But I do worry about my children's future and the society they will live in - are you honestly advocating the world we live in currently is okay?

  • @adampowell5376
    @adampowell5376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have no appetite for either junk food or junk politics. Brexit is junk politics.

    • @anderslee99
      @anderslee99 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's funny - as us Brexiteers have no appetite to be ruled by Juncker!

  • @Geffo555
    @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Nick Boles is one of the few Tories who refuse to go along with this populist madness. The others just have no principles I guess.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Russian Troll so Im told. A union of sovereign member states.
      Regime?

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Russian Troll so Im told. Do you mean like our own government's Universal Credit or Blair's decision to join the invasion of Iraq? Do you mean like Dominic Cummings determining Brexit strategy without being elected? Do you mean like Mark Carney having control over interest rates?
      Governments and councils are elected. They then make decisions and appoint agents without consultation.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Russian Troll so Im told. Dominic Cummings is not an MP yet he's now at the heart of government. Lord Chancellors don't have to be MPs. Your argument simply dissolves when considering the power of Senior Civil Servants who are also appointed. And they can also be removed by those democratically elected. This is just the nature of all governments. They are voted in but then run and appoint as they see fit.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Russian Troll so Im told. No, we can't "sack" the government. Neither can we sack Mark Carney or permanent secretaries. Those appointed by the EU or our own government can be replaced though.
      Ursula von der Leyen, OUR new EU president was elected in by the way. Not directly by us, but by MEPs.
      Boris Johnson was elected as OUR new PM. Again not by us but by members of the Conservative Party.
      At least Ms von der Leyen's selection wasn't influenced by children.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Russian Troll so Im told.You have a peculiar definition of sacking. Do employees get a set 5 year period? Can I only get kicked out if all my colleagues take a vote? (I'm retired though)
      You seriously need some better arguments. Bit hard when something like Brexit is so based on feelings rather than facts.

  • @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
    @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The five stages of grief are: Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance - The remain campaign have gone through all five. But in reverse.

  • @patricaomas8750
    @patricaomas8750 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Didn't he just explain a salesman

  • @foppo100
    @foppo100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem is once we are down the road of no return I.E.Brexit it will take years to come to the conclusion the country has dropped a baulk.

    • @Iazzaboyce
      @Iazzaboyce 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you couldn't be more wrong. The people of the UK have never been interested in the EU. Probably less than 20% are willing participants - unfortunately these people have had control of the main political parties. When the UK leaves these people will be politically defeated.

    • @gio-oz8gf
      @gio-oz8gf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iazzaboyce 20% are willing participants? Yet another random figure plucked out of the air. I reckon 85% are willing participants.

    • @foppo100
      @foppo100 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Iazzaboyce I find that strange. to say that the people are not interested in the E.U when the U.K has been part of the E.U for a very long time.The U.K is an European nation it has never been anything else.Where does that figure of less than 20 percent comes from? The U.K is not some off shore Island linked to the U.S is it? So when you travel through mainland Europe if you have you have no interest whatsoever? I was always interested why the Brits drove on the left had different ways but always thought of them as Europeans.I have lived here for more than fifty years I must have been wrong after a long time.

    • @Iazzaboyce
      @Iazzaboyce 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gio-oz8gf If you look at the 2014 UK/EU elections the turnout was 35.6% - presumably in 2016 around half of those voters voted to end their participation in the EU - so, that would leave around 18% who are willing participants in the EU political project... How did you arrive at your '85%' figure?

    • @Iazzaboyce
      @Iazzaboyce 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foppo100 I haven't said the UK people do no wish to be European, or that they do not want to participate in Europe, or that they are disliking of European people. I would not say any of these things because I know they are not true. What I did say, is the UK people are not very interested in the political antics of the European Union. I know that most people in the UK would prefer countries in Europe to be independent democracies working with each other to reach agreements in areas of mutual interest.

  • @sierrapapa9932
    @sierrapapa9932 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My proud and full support to all the Brexiteers, i'm gonna call you freedom fighters , why not at the end of the day is what you are.My admiration to the Great Britain and their institutions, and my best wishes to you all . I whish I was born in the UK now !. God bless you all !!

    • @genericusername3212
      @genericusername3212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Sierra Papa
      On behalf of the nation I thank you for your kind words of encouragement and support.
      God bless you and yours.
      🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @sierrapapa9932
      @sierrapapa9932 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Randle McMurphy Sure! it's called LIBERTY and tastes sweet and as far as I know it's the same old flag but with the power to decide by itself .

    • @tuga9999
      @tuga9999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you just to stupid to understand how stupid you are!!!!

    • @mikesutton4433
      @mikesutton4433 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, Boris Johnson will be quite free to hand us over to the US - John Bolton is telling us how painless it will all be when we do what Daddy trump tells us and how quickly it can all be done. We're being told that we can be Singapore-on-Thames, but Bolton wants us to be Puerto Rico in the North Sea.

    • @kevinallsop5788
      @kevinallsop5788 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikesutton4433 You obviously think Trump is going to be re-elected then.

  • @NickMusselle
    @NickMusselle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    crikey, an MP that has integrity,

    • @thewatchman6074
      @thewatchman6074 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How can he be? He's defying the will of the majority.

  • @heliotropezzz333
    @heliotropezzz333 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting the way he thinks people will react to a political candidate being 'likeable' and react on an 'emotional level'. Most people I know, myself included, would want to know about political policies of the candidate's party and also take their previous record into account.

  • @carusmike
    @carusmike 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    youtube is great, little snippets of very occassional reminders why I refuse to watch channel 4 news on the tv. 8 minutes was a bit tough though.

  • @alipaf2002
    @alipaf2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boles claimed £930.60 in Parliamentary expenses for Hebrew lessons so that he could better communicate with his Israeli boyfriend Shay Meshulam

    • @peteradaniel
      @peteradaniel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe they should just start paying politicians more.

    • @alipaf2002
      @alipaf2002 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peteradaniel more ? you know much it cost and is that an excuse that he cheated.

  • @additionaddict5524
    @additionaddict5524 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You mean ex conservative

  • @6thi874
    @6thi874 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well that was boring.

  • @twistaumhc91
    @twistaumhc91 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the 'junk love' writing he refers to on Bill Clinton?

  • @ilidiocarmona4827
    @ilidiocarmona4827 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    look....a honest politician.....look kids,you don´t see this very often.

    • @glyntutt1586
      @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really? other than this interview, his track record in Parliament is one of denial - a true Remoaner representing as staunchly Brexit constituency (I voted for him and for Brexit. He has now lost the support of the local Tory Establisment, so I will either vote Brexit Part or Tory next time …. along with a load of my friends and other party supporters).
      It is easy to be honest with yourself after you know you failled, it is a shame he could not be honest when he was on teh Tory benches.

  • @hopethisworks1212
    @hopethisworks1212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why not get a proper scientifically based psychologist to do this programme if you want this report to be taken seriously? I suppose you are relying on the masses thinking that Psychoanalysis is some general term for describing psychology rather than the outdated unscientific Freudian mumbo jumbo that it really is. Academia sees Psychoanalysis as of historic interest only and so should we all, especially producers of news programmes.

    • @Gillemear
      @Gillemear 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thoughts entirely. At points she is literally putting words in his mouth ("act of freedom")

    • @jmolofsson
      @jmolofsson 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are totally right, that "on the couch" in the title is misleading, at best.
      This kind of interview would need a better term, since it is a valuable kind of reportage.

  • @jackarrows1436
    @jackarrows1436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    WTF🤪 let's go

  • @jamesatkinson2988
    @jamesatkinson2988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Feeble man! Should fit in well to the Laboured Party... HaHaHa!!!

  • @andrescasado5975
    @andrescasado5975 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    EU is a peace project

    • @kevinallsop5788
      @kevinallsop5788 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is wanting to raise a European army then? Why did Macron (the midget) say the EU needs an army to stand up to America?
      Why has France re-introduced conscription?
      Why is Germany considering re-introducing conscription?
      Sounds like sabre rattling to me.

    • @DM-rp9ik
      @DM-rp9ik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Albert Pike how?

  • @PlebPolitics
    @PlebPolitics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This melt has never been a Conservative. He's also not relevant anymore either Channel 4, this the best you could do?
    ~Labour voter for almost 20 years.

  • @jimin-somerset5904
    @jimin-somerset5904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I sense the interviewer is left wing as most intellectuals are . . . I’m sorry for Nick & his health problems but I struggle with his dedication to the European project . . . ever closer union, the aim of cancelling state Vetos, qualified majority voting, one finance minister, unified taxation system, the €, the ECJ to make final decisions on laws, an EU army & their intransigence when it comes to dealing with the UK.

    • @tuga9999
      @tuga9999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you just to stupid to understand how stupid you are!!!!

    • @mikesutton4433
      @mikesutton4433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which brings us to matter of Scotland. Many Scots feel that the government of UK is being run by and for the English. I think that total independence for Scotland will be a swift and inevitable result of Brexit - and one that people who talk about "Britain" being free of Europe actually mean "England being in charge of Britain." So not long before the Union with Scotland is undone and surely the unification of Ireland cannot be delayed that long either - the determination of the hardline Protestants will hold that back for a while, but eventually they will be out-populated by the Catholics and left behind by the secularists and the pragmatists.
      And then there will be just England and Wales. When the Welsh will want out, I don't know - it's trickier for them. But I would also note that "freedom" for the English Faragistes does not really mean anything good for the North of England. Here we know that we are merely a useful place for military manoeuvres and (soon) collecting water that can be piped south. The government in London is not very interested in the North. Dominic Raab will know even less about the North of England than he does about Dover. When a border whose shape he probably couldn't draw on a map is no longer a vague thing which has "Welcome to Scotland" on it, but an international frontier with border patrols and inspections and tariffs, then he is going to start appreciating the problems in Ireland. Northumberland will then a front-line county where England (no longer the UK) meets the EU again. And he will care as little about Northumberland as he does about Northern Ireland.
      Our island will be divided again, but London will still run the rest of England for the benefit of London and the South-East. Sunderland is going to discover that London didn't give a sh*t about it before Brexit and won't give a sh*t about it after Brexit. Some people think that the votes in Sunderland to leave the EU was partly a revenge of the manufacturing industry on the financial services sector - "See how you like being given a good kicking." I fancy the satisfaction will be short-lived. Sunderland will just be left to rot by the permanent Tory government of England while they try to maintain living standards for Esher and Walton (MP Dominic Raab).
      England, whose England?

    • @jimin-somerset5904
      @jimin-somerset5904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Carlos Marques if you notice I wasn’t rude about any individual . . . I’m not really sure what I’m stupid about . . not being a fan of Brussels/EU ??

  • @davidclifford5124
    @davidclifford5124 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What on earth was that all about? It was embarrassing to watch. Yes, it was another reminder of why I never watch Channel 4 News.

  • @phildobson8705
    @phildobson8705 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol *Nick Boles, remainer, has been given a social worker!* His anti-social behaviour of Knocking on doors & "trying to make people think he's a nice guy" whilst plotting sabotage?

  • @glyntutt1586
    @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I voted for him. I wrote to him twice this year. He is a turncoat. He is still my MP.
    I have told him that I will not vote for him again.
    He is no longer in the political game, like many MPs both in the Tory Party and teh Labour Party, Brexit is a watershed and we need people in Pariulament who will follow the manadate of the electorate.
    Bye Bye Nick.
    Bring on Brexit - with or without a deal.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Boles is not a turncoat, he just has principles and refused go along with something he knows is wrong.

    • @glyntutt1586
      @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@@Geffo555 : I am sorry to inform you that in his first response to my letter in January, that he categorically refuted my observation that I thought that he would vote against the PM's deal due to comments he had made in Palirament in January 2019.
      At the 3rd presentation of the PMs deal, he voted against it and also voted for a proposal to take 'no deal' off the table.
      This demonstrates that he is a convicted Remain voter who wishes to thwart Brexit (like so many MPs) but is not honest enough to say so.
      Since then the Grantham and Stamford Conservative associations worked out that he was no longer committed to the voice of the consituency.
      Nick is a has been - no not even a member of his beloved COnservative party.
      I am so sad when I see another career politician fail…… not.
      He should go and get a proper job now.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glyntutt1586. Like I said, he refused to go along with something he knows is wrong. The majority of economists regard it has wrong. The majority of directors regard it has wrong. No-deal is not a plan or a strategy. Neither is it democratically justified. A no-deal is just a hole the country falls into as a result of the government's failure to secure anything worthwhile. Why are we having to spend billions on this? Why are we gambling?

    • @glyntutt1586
      @glyntutt1586 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@@Geffo555 - But that is not his role, he represents a Leave Constituency and has thwarted the outcome of the referendum.
      If you are referring to the CBI or the Institue of Directors, they do not represent the vast majority of business leaders and as for Economists so what - they get it wrong all of the time.
      No-Deal during negotiations is always a strategy even if neither party will leave the negotiations with that outcome, but to say that no-deal is not a possible outcome is weak.
      Democratically justified???? let us see at the next GE if we have not left the EU.
      Remember the people voted for political reasons, the Economy serves the people, not the other way around.
      and also staying in the EU is not a bed of roses either - in fact the problems in Italy make Brexit look insignificant to the future of the EU.
      Whatever you think of Brexit, good old Nick is finished as a politician.

    • @Geffo555
      @Geffo555 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@glyntutt1586. You don't seem to grasp the responsibilities of an MP. They are elected to exercise their judgement and knowledge in the BEST interests of their constituents, not simply follow a prescribed doctrine. And Consider Kate Hoey. She represents Vauxhall, which was 77% remain. Has she been forced to adopt a remain stance?

  • @chandabrozio7287
    @chandabrozio7287 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s really a challenge to listens to that conversation which eventually says nothing.

  • @ronantonio3631
    @ronantonio3631 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great
    Another opinionated COUGAR podcast.

  • @mustang7845
    @mustang7845 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    its mps like this pillock who have tryed to scupper brexit he should be sacked

    • @tomjsmith000
      @tomjsmith000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      mustang7845 sacked from what?