I don’t suppose you ever found a way to make the steering less sensitive with a controller? You used to be able to adjust the saturation and dead zone in the old supermodel ini file from 2012, but it doesn’t seem to work now
Yes I have, and I have configured this for every game with this pre config. Some games have a native analogue calibration function in their test menus under 'Volume Settings'. You'd think that would be for audio but it's for analogue calibration. Some racers do not have a native analogue calibration, this is where the InputJoy1XSaturation option comes in. I tested everything. Just use the pre configuration and you'll see just how much better it controls
@@warpedpolygon excellent stuff, looks like a helluva lot of effort you put into getting everything working, not sure if you’ll know the answer to this but did you ever have any luck getting force feedback to work with a wheel? Just couldn’t get it to enable with my Logitech G29
Dude, your channel is a goldmine. I've been using these emulators for awhile, but I honestly immediately ditched my Supermodel setup (which was like 2 years old and outdated) for yours. Thank you SO much for making these amazing videos, and thank you even more for passionately making this pre-setup version of Supermodel.
Maaate, figuring out what was going on with that took ages. The input test essentially "lies" about it's analog range which caused some confusion. Glad it helped man!
I started off with 720p but I'm surprised at how well my extremely aged i7920 + GTX1060 6G is handling these games. glass-like smoothness in Daytona 2, which was my most anticipated game of all Model 3 games. I'm very impressed and happy :) Thanks a bunch for your work. Those emucr links for Sega Model 3 UI are very suspect though! I set out to find a different download location for the same version of the UI (emu-france, I think was the website) because I don't want to risk a virus.
Thank you so much for the tutorial and the config files. Now I need to force anisotropic x16 and anti-aliasing ON. This being an OpenGL application, I assumed those could be forced on from Nvidia Control Panel, no sweat. Oh how wrong I was. Maybe Nvidia Inspector will do the trick. Gonna keep trying. Great channel BTW. Just subscribed.
@@warpedpolygon I find I can force both if I use the legacy 3D engine. The new one has some other issues apart from that: for instance, Sega Rally 2 aspect ratio is wrong (i.e. a bit squeezed). Also, I was expecting to be able to select manually a 4K resolution so that it gets supersampled down to my monitor's 1080p, which produces a sharp and clean image free of jaggies. But alas, it doesn't work as expected and the picture gets all wrong and zoomed in, so the highest resolution I can select is 1920x1080...
@@oldnewpixel the way it scales resolutions is strange. I know more work is currently being put into the new 3d engine. TBH i don't mind a jaggie here and there. Fingers crossed for some AA
Thank you for putting all of this together! Just FYI I copied the whole thing to my steam deck and got it to run pretty nicely within Steam via Proton. Just a shame that development has stopped on the SuperModel UI.
Thanks for the suggestion but I have already done this for SR2. I set it to 69, as you still don't get glitches and it's a more stable frame rate than set at 100 on lower end hardware.
Hi! Thank you so much for all the great work! I just set up everything and Spikeout worked like a charm and looked incredible. I then started Daytona 2 and Sega Rally 2 and on both games steering worked but gas and brake did not. Strangely even the start button didn't seem to be working correctly. My initial guess was it's because I'm using a PS4 controller and the app that converts it into xinput, and that is screwing up somehow. My other guess is that I mistakenly copied over all the files from the UI set. Do you have any additional ideas? Again great work!
Thanks for the setup....I messed up my settings months ago, and couldn't get many of the games to work correctly. On star wars trilogy the x axis are inverted (left goes towards the right etc)how do I change that?.Many thanks fella👌👌
@@rsb3609 Change cabinet type in the test menu to "U/R" (Upright). Is the short version, the long winded explanation as to why is below lol. I had a 'great story bro' moment Ok just tested and looks good on my end. If you have only used the .ini file and not used the NVRAM files as well, Star Wars 'Cabinet Type' will be 'deluxe' by default. This has a different y axis due to the inputs being different on the Upright Cabinet version, which is what the pre configured nv file has set. You want to use the U/R (Upright) setting as it doesn't have any issues with the feedback lever and skips the feedback lever check on boot.
Because in some games like Ocean Hunter I want to use the mouse instead of the joystick, what options do I need to change in the config? With this setup mouse did not work and gamepad made the cursor uncontrollable
Hi fantastic video and it's got me wanting to play lost world again. Does anyone know if it works with the sinden light gun or dolphin bar or even both at the same time. 2 player would be brilliant. Thanks
@@warpedpolygon thanks for coming back to me. Just found your channel. Very helpful and appreciated. I've already subbed and look forward to more videos from you. Thanks again
Would you be able suggest an hardware (cpu graphics card) setup to buy? I remember the old days emulators would run too fast on newer hardware or other glitches. My kids have gotten into arcade games from the random old machines still existing at tourist spots
First off WOW!!! I found this channel last night and it is about to send AMAZING WORK!!! I have set up most of my sega model 3 which was a complete pain in the arse as you say ! but I haven’t changed any of the languages and some of the controls on some of the games . I have been reading the comments and looking at the controls on the images for launch box that you provide Is there a way to make Star Wars not inverted, so up is up down is down et cetera Also, the ones that use a keyboard and mouse can they be used with a xbox one controller lone the rest and with the light gun games are they ready configured for sinden light guns and because it’s in 4K resolution, do I simply just go to the gun calibration per game and adjust as needed? The question I have is, I’ve got my games running at 4K on my TV which took a lot of fiddling around to get it working. if I swap my files for your ones will it mess up the 4k widescreen? And if so, which files are the ones that change the language settings controls and the test menus as there most important. Once again, thank you so much for this I will add comments in the other videos with questions about that certain platform Thanks Danny
Star Wars should be UP is Up etc already if using the pre config. You can change the inversion in the .ini file or by changing the cabinet type to Upright. The resolution for the pre config is 1920x1080 but you can change this in the UI to 4K. its the NVRAM files that have all the game test menu settings. My recommendation would be to setup my preconfiguration and adjust it from there. Star Wars will be correctly inverted and everything setup just right. Do this separately and keep your current build just in case. You can change the light gun games to be used with a controller in the .ini file, and change the resolution to 4K. I can provide some stuff that you can copy and paste to do this if needed.
It's a great emulator and UI and I really like the Model 3 games, but there are so many steps and so many wrong places and files to get to that it's super frustrating to get the thing working. How do you even enter the test menu on the games to change the country settings? I have an older emulator for model 3 but F1, F2 or F3 don't get into the test menu. Thanks
A godsend, finally found a way to try out Daytona USA 2 and Scud Race again. Do you know how to change the amount of laps for each course in these games? 8 laps might be too much for the Advanced and Expert courses for my people lol
Thanks man! Yeah just go into the games test menu and change number of laps per course. It'll be listed as Novice, Advanced and Expert, change each one to what you want it to be.
@Warped Polygon wow I'm blind it's in my face lol, do I use xinput (xbox series s) buttons or keyboard to navigate the menu? I can't seem to use the menu before the game boots like a chump lol
Fantastic. As far as I know, I have had everything for Star Wars Trilogy Arcade working well the past year... EXCEPT, needing the controls up/down reversed for both the Boba Fett and Darth Vader lightsaber battles. I'm using a yoke controller. Everything else is great! I can't access the original SM3 test screen (maybe I don't know the proper way in?) Perhaps you know? Much appreciated.
When I try to use the Configs on Steam Deck / Arch Linux, I get "Error: uknown input system: dinput". Is there something missing I need to install? I did add the xinput package from Arch linux. Guessing it's because I am using the compiled binary on Linux, not an exe. Update1: I got basic things working with using "sdl" for input method, but need to figure out the controls. I can't seem to hide the crosshair though. When I move left joystick on my PS4 controller, I see and can use the crosshair there, but the one in the center stays. Maybe that is P2?
Hi. I use your settings and pretty much every game runs great . but when i run ski champ. I am stuck in the 1st person view and cant seem to change views. I have tried differnt setting in the ski champ ini confog file and also had a look inside the test menu on ski champ but there is no option to place the camera behind the skier. i have ski champ set on free play. the start button and the red B button on my xbox one controller both do the same action ( button 3) within the test menu. Any Ideas on how to get the change view button action working properly.? Much appreciated.
You need to hold X (Far View) or A (Mid View) or B (1st Person) at the same time as starting/coining up the game. It will auto start when credits are added so hold your desired view button and press Select. Don't use the start button to start this game. Supermodel emulates this to be the B button causing 1st person mode to be used. The only instructions on how to view change were printed on the actual arcade machine. There's no in game prompt or anything. So this is pretty much unknown to most.
Without having a sinden to test with it is pretty difficult to say. I would recommend a Sinden specific build and check out www.youtube.com/@TitchgamerRG for the best Sinden Tutorials
I can't get past the "network board not found error" tried pressing rt to enter the service mode but nothing happens! Is there a way to do this outside game? I'm using xbox one controller.
Thank you very much! I am finally able to play those classic SEGA games after a very long time! I just wanna ask: you mentioned that sega model 3 can run also non-merged mame roms, but where should I put those? I tried to put those in the ROMs folder but the emulator doesn't show them. Could you help me please?
more than likely the mouse index is in the incorrect place. if you arent using 2 players you can delete the rawinpt type for the light gun games. in the ini file at the top you'll have per game settings. Delete the rawinput line from all the light gun games and you'll have no issue with windows mouse indexing. I'm thinking I need to provide separate 1 player ini file for those not using 2 players or actual lightguns. hope this helped
@@warpedpolygon Damn U Responsive Lol And Yeah When I Get Home Imma Test It Out I Know U Had The Extensive Knowledge So I Had To Check But Everything Else Works Like A Charm That Change From " analog gun" To " Gun" Worked Well For Lostworld L.a. Machines Is The Only One Ever Gave Me Issues
I've done this per game for the racers. Towards the top of the ini there are the per game settings. Find the one you want and chanhe the analogsensitivity line. 100 is default
Hi, if I get a reply soon that would be awesome (as I need this setup for a games day at my school tomorrow) but I have made a generic 2p arcade controller and we want virtual fighter 3 working. Is it easy to remap the controllers?
This is excellent thank you for your hard work on this. May I ask about 2 PLAYER MOUSE SUPPORT? When plugging in 2 mice they control the same curser in windows but only one works in the emu... Should I be using something like Mousemux to get 2 cursers? How do I register them as mouse 1 and 2?
@@warpedpolygon ah ok cheers. In testing I can't get the second mouse to work sadly, I wonder if it's because one is wired and one is bluetooth. Or I've not assigned them properly
@@manaboutsound so mix and matching probably is the issue here. 2 wired mice will defo work as long as they are the first 2 mouse devices plugged in, from having none plugged in (including any bluetooth devices). you'd need to treat the bluetooth mice the same. there is a way to find out what the second mouse is registering as but needs a long description and a little effort on your end. lemme know if you can be arsed lol
@@manaboutsound me too, they just updated so you can have 2 running on the same instance of software, so I'm buying two. Titchgamers Retro Gaming is the guy for proper sinden setup
Thank you for making this. I think I followed everything correctly and I can get games to run but they run very fast. Is there a way around that? Also, can this be run through Launchbox or am I going to run into issues?
You are not the first person with this issue. Do you have vsync on and or throttle? The other guy this happened to said setting power pc frequency to 200 helped. However, I managed to recreate this issue when I set my NVIDIA graphics setting to lowish but when I reverted back to performance it worked fine. Check ya vsync is on and if so then check ya performance settings with your graphics card and set to the highest setting if not already.
@@warpedpolygon thank you for the quick reply. Vsync was on. I didn't notice a difference with the throttle setting but shifting the Power setting from 69 to 200 did the trick! I also was able to point Launchbox to the UI file by using all file types in the search. It was originally only showing Supermodel so it wouldn't work. I have to rechoose the game in the UI but no biggie. Next experiment, changing the racing games to my Fanatec wheel and pedals. Hopefully changing inputs in the UI only affects the selected game.
@@warpedpolygon thank you so much my friend! Can you double check LA machine gun because it does not work as the other light games due. It’s not registering the movement. Only the firing. I would love to have that one work.
@@warpedpolygon It’s from amazon, EasySMX Wired Gaming Controller,PC Game Controller Joystick with Dual-Vibration Turbo and Trigger Buttons for Windows PC/ PS3/ Android TV Box/Tesla(Bl. It works great with your model 2 build and is set up just like Xbox controller. It just won’t work on any games. Lightgun games are great though. Really frustrating me. Lol. I need your help.
This emulator looks amazing in HDR and with reshade, and works great with my xbox gamepad. I can play the games fine and they look great, however, I've noticed I'm unable to hit "escape" and exit the emulator until I mouse click on the screen. Immediately when I do that, the HDR no longer works, but I'm able to exit the game. Can someone tell me how to exit with the gamepad or the escape key, without having to interact with the mouse? Thanks if you can help!
I dont use reshade so unable to help on this one. Exiting with the controller is possible in BigBox but will need a AHK with esc bound to whatever you want if you are using supermodel outside of BigBox
@@warpedpolygon thanks, the script I’m using works with every other emulator I have, but its not working with this one. Actually it does work, if I mouse click on the screen first, but I’m looking for a script to avoid doing that. For some reason it seem like the main overlaying window is not active with the supermodel emulator until I mouse click on it, I can control games fine, but just can’t close them out properly if that makes sense? I’d love to see the script you use for Bigbox that closes supermodel with game pad. Thanks if you can help :)
I don't know why but, when I tried to play Daytona USA 2 everything was zoomed in and really slow for some reason. Can you please tell me what the hell is wrong here I'm so frustrated and confused.
Hi thanks a lot for this,I downloaded it and it works great,finally I can play scud racer without over twitchy controls,it drives perfect with my xbox controller. By the way the Romset I put in the roms directory,there is about 4 different versions of scud racer and only one version seems to work I think it's the scud plus version,does that mean my Romset is the problem or doesn't the emulator support the other 3 versions of scud racer,there is an Australian version a plus-a version and one other but only the scud-plus works
Hi scudplus rom works and loads great but the scud rom,scudplusa rom,scuddx and scudau roms they try to load it comes up saying drive board initialising and then goes to say cancelled network board not present What would be causing that do you think.
@@garryw1974 by not using the NVRAM files :) Use those to fix or........Go into test menu of the game then select 'game assignments' and 'change link' ID to 'SINGLE'
Great work! I have the supermodel sega model 3 emulator working perfectly when I use the supermodel UI. I have been trying to run supermodel out of launchbox though and I am running into an issue. Everything works perfect when i run from the UI, but when I run from Launchbox using the supermodel.exe executable file, the audio never works on any sega model 3 games, no matter what settings I use. Does anyone know what the issue might be, and has anyone had success with everything working perfectly, including audio, and running from launchbox? Any tips on getting the audio to work when running Supermodel out of Launchbox?
I can't get the Sega Model 3 UI. Most of the links don't work and the two that do look really dodgy and are asking me to install browser extensions. Are there any alternative places to download it?
Would this work too for the NVRAM file on Star Wars Trilogy? "clear the nvram so you have 0 credits and then set the nvram as read only. It wont track high scores but prevents the black screen if you accidentally leave credits in." Thank you!
@@warpedpolygon thank you happy new year! What should I configure for the start button in order to get beyond the first screen? When I said it to free play, it won’t let me get beyond the intro screen unless I use my keyboard. I really just want to use a pre-configured button from the machine. Thanks again.
If I wanted to use the Model 3 emulator (and even the Model 2) in my arcade cab, does this pre-config complicate things for me? Should I be looking for something else?
Depends on the arcade setup you have. The NVRAM files may be of use but the control configuration is setup and tested with a controller and mouse. The racing games are setup for analogue input and if you are just using a joystick it wont work. Everything here is useful to you apart from controls for arcade setups.
Will the NVRAM file fix the issue that I am having with Battle of Yavin not fully playing after it loads? It just goes to black with sound in the background after it gets past the x-wing fighter profile. Thank you so much!
Yes, it will help. That issue is a known bug. If you have unused credits from a previous play session on your current play session this can happen. Setting to free play stops this from happening. Also if you smash buttons while it's loading up it can do the same thing
@@warpedpolygon Sir, my problem is that I put Supermodel and Sega Model 3 on a new computer and I am trying to connect it to an old Star Wars Trilogy machine that had the original arcade machine in it. This machine did not work anymore and my son who is autistic loves this game. So... I have a couple problems. To connect the game to the buttons that play the game I am stuck to a keyboard. I can get one button to map to an event button on a USB encoder board I installed. The other button maps to a coin button. So, if I use your NVRAM hack it will not have a button to load a coin initially and then you are stuck watching the opening scene with it showing FREE PLAY on the bottom. So I reinstalled everything without your hack and it loads with one credit. My son can keep hitting the credit button that I mapped out which is fine but I would rather it load with free play so I don't get a black screen when the game loads to the Battle of Yavin. I hope this makes sense and my wife and I would really appreciate any advice. Happy Christmas. Cheers!
@@cfitt The event button is the start button when in free play mode. It is mapped to right click on the mouse. Are you using a mouse to play? Merry Christmas to you too
@@warpedpolygon no, I am trying to use the existing buttons from the arcade and have tried to map them from a usb encoder. I’ll try again but the event button I did map successfully did not let me enter the game on free play. Thank you!
Sir, thank you so much for your help. I hope I am not bothering you but I believe your NVRAM file will work I was just hoping to have the two buttons on the machine we have be the event buttons that start the game. This does not seem to happen. The game stays on the Free play opening screen. Any suggestions? Thank you!
For the games to go silky smoothly, just download Custom Resolution Utility and set up the video. I will write out a complete table.Just go through manual timing. Parameters Active: 1920 pixels 1080 lines ,Front porch: 48 pixels 3 lines , Sync width: 32 pixels 5 lines , Back porch: 80 pixels 22lines , blanking: 160 pixels 30 lines , Total: 2080 pixels 1110 lines. section Frequency . Refresh rate: 58.199 hz , Horizontal :64.600khz , Pixel clock: 134.37 MHz. Works on standard led lcd monitor. Have a nice day.
once again, top top work mate, its works a treat!! right...... i do have an issue, nothing youve done, but you may be able to help. this is happening on both model 2 and 3 emulators on steam deck, data is not being saved, no big deal, except sega rally 2 requires a certain amount of time and plays to unlock the celica and delta from SR1, again, no problem with normal sega rally 2, both cars are present, but SR2 delux they are not unlocked and because of the no save issue, i cant unlock them....... can you help?? help me okey won benobi, youre my only hope hahaaha ;)
@@warpedpolygon they are completely different games mate. deluxe has different handling, car speed and liveries and was the 1st version of SR2, but it took years for peeps to sus out how to get it working on supermodel. I prefer the handling and repsol escort WRC over the later version...... but i cant unlock my beloved celica hahahaa. the game data not saving is an issue with linux, everything works fine on windows, and im having the issue with both M2 and M3 emulators. if need be ill just have to play it more on PC to unlock the extras ;)
@@toweleeielite well i certainly missed that one. I'll have to update the configs to include it now. What's the unlock criteria? I can't remember for the life of me
@@warpedpolygon this is the big unknown. its supposed to be 4 weeks and 100 plays, but i had tem unlocked on the normal version well quicker than 4 weeks, another site says 1000 plays. toi be safe id go 1000 plays and 1000 hours...... cant go far wrong there. and nice one btw, youre a star mate ;)
@@warpedpolygon FYI mate, the save game issue is due to the way the steam deck closes the application. if i dock the deck hahaa, and then exit the emulator via the escape key everything is fine and data is saved, any other way and the emulator thinks its had a crash and dumps the new data.....
@@warpedpolygon A = shift 1 B = shift 4 X =shift 2 Y = shift 3. That is what my original daytona usa and daytona usa 2001 buttons are mapped too but may vary for others
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I don’t suppose you ever found a way to make the steering less sensitive with a controller? You used to be able to adjust the saturation and dead zone in the old supermodel ini file from 2012, but it doesn’t seem to work now
Yes I have, and I have configured this for every game with this pre config.
Some games have a native analogue calibration function in their test menus under 'Volume Settings'. You'd think that would be for audio but it's for analogue calibration. Some racers do not have a native analogue calibration, this is where the InputJoy1XSaturation option comes in. I tested everything.
Just use the pre configuration and you'll see just how much better it controls
@@warpedpolygon excellent stuff, looks like a helluva lot of effort you put into getting everything working, not sure if you’ll know the answer to this but did you ever have any luck getting force feedback to work with a wheel? Just couldn’t get it to enable with my Logitech G29
@@garycormack Sorry mate only controller support at the moment. If I ever get a force feedback wheel I'll cover it.
@@warpedpolygon ok cool, thanks for the advice about the volume configuration, I really wouldn’t have thought that refereed to analogue calibration.
Just use the pre config. I've done all that for you
Dude. This video is a treasure. You made this painless. Finally I can play Model 3 in the best way possible. Congrats to the Supermodel team as well!!
Dude, your channel is a goldmine.
I've been using these emulators for awhile, but I honestly immediately ditched my Supermodel setup (which was like 2 years old and outdated) for yours.
Thank you SO much for making these amazing videos, and thank you even more for passionately making this pre-setup version of Supermodel.
These videos are great! I've put off setting these separate arcade system emulators for a while, I think it's finally time to get to them. Subscribed!
Yeah man do it ive made it easier than ever
Very nice. Thank you very much. I've used Supermodel for years, but the controls were always a pain.
Cheers mate. Controls took a while to completely figure out. Glad it helped
Thank you so much! For years I could never figure Supermodel out, this was so easy! I can now finally play VF3 in HD.
Stoked!
Great job. I had these set up before on Hyperspin, but something broke when I went to Launchbox. This saves me some time.
Glad it helped!
Thank you Polygon, I can finally play something other than virtual fighter for this system.
Hope you enjoy it!
Amazing video! I think the hardest thing for me in the past had been not having a UI. This is great!
Thanks man. Yeah it's hard to find.
@MBJ84 can you provide me the ui file?
what a good supermodelmodel gui the launchbox people released! that seems in the information.
It wasn't made by the LaunchBox guys. It was made by one man who also made the UI for the Model 2 Emulator. The guy is a don.
Thank you! I kept wondering why Daytona felt f'd up for so long and couldn't figure it out
Maaate, figuring out what was going on with that took ages. The input test essentially "lies" about it's analog range which caused some confusion. Glad it helped man!
Thank you very much! I can finally play my long lost childhood game, Scud Race!
Superb video. This is how an instructional video should be made: Simple and to the point!
I started off with 720p but I'm surprised at how well my extremely aged i7920 + GTX1060 6G is handling these games.
glass-like smoothness in Daytona 2, which was my most anticipated game of all Model 3 games. I'm very impressed and happy :)
Thanks a bunch for your work. Those emucr links for Sega Model 3 UI are very suspect though! I set out to find a different download location for the same version of the UI (emu-france, I think was the website) because I don't want to risk a virus.
Thanks for the kind words. In my updated video i mention that the ui has no good links anymore.
Gonna make an updated setup guide with no ui involved
@@warpedpolygon Oh, nice. I look forward to that video.
Great work! Thanks so much
No worries dude
Everything worked on the first shot... hell of a guide! Thanks 🏆
That's what I like to hear
I wanted to say thank you so much. Wow this made my life so much easier!
Glad it helped!
seriously thank you for this saved me alot of headache
Thanks mate. It really does save a lot of time
Thank you so much for the tutorial and the config files. Now I need to force anisotropic x16 and anti-aliasing ON. This being an OpenGL application, I assumed those could be forced on from Nvidia Control Panel, no sweat. Oh how wrong I was. Maybe Nvidia Inspector will do the trick. Gonna keep trying. Great channel BTW. Just subscribed.
Yeah its not so bad at higher resolutions. Maybe in the future the devs will get it in the emu natively.
@@warpedpolygon I find I can force both if I use the legacy 3D engine. The new one has some other issues apart from that: for instance, Sega Rally 2 aspect ratio is wrong (i.e. a bit squeezed). Also, I was expecting to be able to select manually a 4K resolution so that it gets supersampled down to my monitor's 1080p, which produces a sharp and clean image free of jaggies. But alas, it doesn't work as expected and the picture gets all wrong and zoomed in, so the highest resolution I can select is 1920x1080...
@@oldnewpixel the way it scales resolutions is strange. I know more work is currently being put into the new 3d engine. TBH i don't mind a jaggie here and there. Fingers crossed for some AA
man! you are a real king, thanks so much! works perfect!!!
You're welcome!
@@warpedpolygon works with Logitech g27?
Cheers Dude. Always put off SM3 as could never get my head around it.
Thank you for putting all of this together! Just FYI I copied the whole thing to my steam deck and got it to run pretty nicely within Steam via Proton. Just a shame that development has stopped on the SuperModel UI.
awesome! glad to hear it's working on steam deck. The UI is useful but the ini file is where all the magic happens
I would also recommend setting the frequency to 100 for Sega Rally 2, stops the car polygons from looking glitchy on some systems
Thanks for the suggestion but I have already done this for SR2. I set it to 69, as you still don't get glitches and it's a more stable frame rate than set at 100 on lower end hardware.
Hi! Thank you so much for all the great work! I just set up everything and Spikeout worked like a charm and looked incredible. I then started Daytona 2 and Sega Rally 2 and on both games steering worked but gas and brake did not. Strangely even the start button didn't seem to be working correctly. My initial guess was it's because I'm using a PS4 controller and the app that converts it into xinput, and that is screwing up somehow. My other guess is that I mistakenly copied over all the files from the UI set. Do you have any additional ideas? Again great work!
If using a ps4 controller you can use the dinput ini and it'll work like a charm.
cool I'll try that. You Rock!@@warpedpolygon
@@lknox1123 make sure you don't use any programs to make it think its an xinput controller. Just use the ini and don't use ds4 windows
Thanks for the setup....I messed up my settings months ago, and couldn't get many of the games to work correctly. On star wars trilogy the x axis are inverted (left goes towards the right etc)how do I change that?.Many thanks fella👌👌
Is it doing that with my pre config?
@@warpedpolygon Yes mate.only on the mouse......sorry forgot to mention that.
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Change cabinet type in the test menu to "U/R" (Upright). Is the short version, the long winded explanation as to why is below lol. I had a 'great story bro' moment
Ok just tested and looks good on my end. If you have only used the .ini file and not used the NVRAM files as well, Star Wars 'Cabinet Type' will be 'deluxe' by default. This has a different y axis due to the inputs being different on the Upright Cabinet version, which is what the pre configured nv file has set. You want to use the U/R (Upright) setting as it doesn't have any issues with the feedback lever and skips the feedback lever check on boot.
@@warpedpolygon Spot on fella!!!! Works like a charm.Thanks....👏👏👏
Because in some games like Ocean Hunter I want to use the mouse instead of the joystick, what options do I need to change in the config? With this setup mouse did not work and gamepad made the cursor uncontrollable
I have the exact same problem. I can't use the mouse at all and my Xbox 360 pc controller is basically unusable, it's ultra sensitive.
Are you still having this problem?
Hi fantastic video and it's got me wanting to play lost world again. Does anyone know if it works with the sinden light gun or dolphin bar or even both at the same time. 2 player would be brilliant. Thanks
Yes this is using rawinput for both players. be sure to correctly assign the mouse index
@@warpedpolygon thanks for coming back to me. Just found your channel. Very helpful and appreciated. I've already subbed and look forward to more videos from you. Thanks again
Would you be able suggest an hardware (cpu graphics card) setup to buy? I remember the old days emulators would run too fast on newer hardware or other glitches. My kids have gotten into arcade games from the random old machines still existing at tourist spots
that depends on budget, requirements etc. I'm running a 10 year old potato myself. amd 8350 and 1gb 960
First off WOW!!!
I found this channel last night and it is about to send AMAZING WORK!!!
I have set up most of my sega model 3 which was a complete pain in the arse as you say !
but I haven’t changed any of the languages and some of the controls on some of the games .
I have been reading the comments and looking at the controls on the images for launch box that you provide Is there a way to make Star Wars not inverted, so up is up down is down et cetera
Also, the ones that use a keyboard and mouse can they be used with a xbox one controller lone the rest and with the light gun games are they ready configured for sinden light guns and because it’s in 4K resolution, do I simply just go to the gun calibration per game and adjust as needed?
The question I have is, I’ve got my games running at 4K on my TV which took a lot of fiddling around to get it working.
if I swap my files for your ones will it mess up the 4k widescreen?
And if so, which files are the ones that change the language settings controls and the test menus as there most important.
Once again, thank you so much for this I will add comments in the other videos with questions about that certain platform
Thanks Danny
Star Wars should be UP is Up etc already if using the pre config. You can change the inversion in the .ini file or by changing the cabinet type to Upright.
The resolution for the pre config is 1920x1080 but you can change this in the UI to 4K.
its the NVRAM files that have all the game test menu settings.
My recommendation would be to setup my preconfiguration and adjust it from there. Star Wars will be correctly inverted and everything setup just right. Do this separately and keep your current build just in case. You can change the light gun games to be used with a controller in the .ini file, and change the resolution to 4K. I can provide some stuff that you can copy and paste to do this if needed.
@@warpedpolygon thank you that’s great but I will do is save my files just in case and then try and see what happens. Thank you
It's a great emulator and UI and I really like the Model 3 games, but there are so many steps and so many wrong places and files to get to that it's super frustrating to get the thing working. How do you even enter the test menu on the games to change the country settings? I have an older emulator for model 3 but F1, F2 or F3 don't get into the test menu. Thanks
Use this, its all been done for you.
A godsend, finally found a way to try out Daytona USA 2 and Scud Race again. Do you know how to change the amount of laps for each course in these games? 8 laps might be too much for the Advanced and Expert courses for my people lol
Thanks man! Yeah just go into the games test menu and change number of laps per course. It'll be listed as Novice, Advanced and Expert, change each one to what you want it to be.
@Warped Polygon wow I'm blind it's in my face lol, do I use xinput (xbox series s) buttons or keyboard to navigate the menu? I can't seem to use the menu before the game boots like a chump lol
@@sheeeeeeeit3786 5 and 6 on the keyboard are test and service. Test selects and service navigates
Ahh you're amazing, seriously appreciate the hard work you put in for us plebs 🙏🙏🙏
Thanks I was able to Enjoy Starwars and Emergency Ambulance
You're welcome
Nice one man! how can I disable screen flash in the light gun games?
Which games are you getting flashing on as none of them flash anyway?
The lost world is interesting to play in 16:9 display .... Wlil try later!
It plays well
Has anyone found the Sega Model 3 UI files? I can't seem to find any of the links that still work.
The UI seemingly have gone from existence. I'll be putting together a LaunchBox build so no need for UI
@@warpedpolygon when and where can we get ui files from?
Fantastic. As far as I know, I have had everything for Star Wars Trilogy Arcade working well the past year... EXCEPT, needing the controls up/down reversed for both the Boba Fett and Darth Vader lightsaber battles. I'm using a yoke controller. Everything else is great! I can't access the original SM3 test screen (maybe I don't know the proper way in?) Perhaps you know? Much appreciated.
cheers mate, 5 is test and 6 is service
I hope you could answer this: when ever i press load rom, it tells me that it can't open the zip
It's not unzipping the file for some reason. Do all ya other files unzip ok?
no
One question, how do you access the game menu (set game difficulty, number of rounds, round time, etc.?)
Test is 5 and Service is 6 on your keyboard. Watch out tho as some games clear their test menu data when certain settings are changed.
@@warpedpolygon Thanks!
When I try to use the Configs on Steam Deck / Arch Linux, I get "Error: uknown input system: dinput". Is there something missing I need to install? I did add the xinput package from Arch linux. Guessing it's because I am using the compiled binary on Linux, not an exe.
Update1: I got basic things working with using "sdl" for input method, but need to figure out the controls. I can't seem to hide the crosshair though. When I move left joystick on my PS4 controller, I see and can use the crosshair there, but the one in the center stays. Maybe that is P2?
Impossible to register in the forum to get your file. What a pity ! Super work by the way bravo !
Did you manage to get an account?
@@warpedpolygon no they have never sent to me the confirmation 😕
Hi. I use your settings and pretty much every game runs great . but when i run ski champ. I am stuck in the 1st person view and cant seem to change views. I have tried differnt setting in the ski champ ini confog file and also had a look inside the test menu on ski champ but there is no option to place the camera behind the skier. i have ski champ set on free play. the start button and the red B button on my xbox one controller both do the same action ( button 3) within the test menu. Any Ideas on how to get the change view button action working properly.? Much appreciated.
You need to hold X (Far View) or A (Mid View) or B (1st Person) at the same time as starting/coining up the game. It will auto start when credits are added so hold your desired view button and press Select.
Don't use the start button to start this game. Supermodel emulates this to be the B button causing 1st person mode to be used.
The only instructions on how to view change were printed on the actual arcade machine. There's no in game prompt or anything. So this is pretty much unknown to most.
@@warpedpolygon Excellent. worked like a charm. All games work great now with your settings. 10/10 😎
Awesome. Glad to hear. Enjoy :)
Hello will this config work with Sinden Light guns for the lost world?
Without having a sinden to test with it is pretty difficult to say. I would recommend a Sinden specific build and check out www.youtube.com/@TitchgamerRG for the best Sinden Tutorials
@@warpedpolygon I imagine it will work since it work with a mouse
@@naehpmil7951 give it a go and let me know
I can't get past the "network board not found error" tried pressing rt to enter the service mode but nothing happens! Is there a way to do this outside game? I'm using xbox one controller.
Thank you very much! I am finally able to play those classic SEGA games after a very long time! I just wanna ask: you mentioned that sega model 3 can run also non-merged mame roms, but where should I put those? I tried to put those in the ROMs folder but the emulator doesn't show them. Could you help me please?
Follow the steps at 8.06 you'll need to point the emulator to where they are
P E R F E C T. Thank you !
Cheers mate!
L.A. Machines Still Giving Me Trouble With The Aiming Cursor Any steps I may Have Missed With That
more than likely the mouse index is in the incorrect place. if you arent using 2 players you can delete the rawinpt type for the light gun games. in the ini file at the top you'll have per game settings. Delete the rawinput line from all the light gun games and you'll have no issue with windows mouse indexing. I'm thinking I need to provide separate 1 player ini file for those not using 2 players or actual lightguns. hope this helped
@@warpedpolygon Damn U Responsive Lol And Yeah When I Get Home Imma Test It Out I Know U Had The Extensive Knowledge So I Had To Check But Everything Else Works Like A Charm That Change From " analog gun" To " Gun" Worked Well For Lostworld L.a. Machines Is The Only One Ever Gave Me Issues
Please can you tell me how to change the steering sensitivity.
I've done this per game for the racers. Towards the top of the ini there are the per game settings. Find the one you want and chanhe the analogsensitivity line. 100 is default
none of the foldrs you mentioned were in the ui download,2021 04 21 download with only a couple of links working now
Just checked. All working fine with the first download link and all files present
Hi, if I get a reply soon that would be awesome (as I need this setup for a games day at my school tomorrow) but I have made a generic 2p arcade controller and we want virtual fighter 3 working.
Is it easy to remap the controllers?
its not a quick and easy procedure . follow along with this part from an old guide th-cam.com/video/DpiDpDMwLhA/w-d-xo.html
This is excellent thank you for your hard work on this.
May I ask about 2 PLAYER MOUSE SUPPORT? When plugging in 2 mice they control the same curser in windows but only one works in the emu... Should I be using something like Mousemux to get 2 cursers? How do I register them as mouse 1 and 2?
Just using 2 mice straight up with no extra software should work. Is this with all 3 of the light gun games or just Jurassic Park?
@@warpedpolygon ah ok cheers. In testing I can't get the second mouse to work sadly, I wonder if it's because one is wired and one is bluetooth. Or I've not assigned them properly
@@manaboutsound so mix and matching probably is the issue here. 2 wired mice will defo work as long as they are the first 2 mouse devices plugged in, from having none plugged in (including any bluetooth devices). you'd need to treat the bluetooth mice the same. there is a way to find out what the second mouse is registering as but needs a long description and a little effort on your end. lemme know if you can be arsed lol
@@warpedpolygon Thanks man, tried two wired mice and got it working! Excellent stuff. After all that I've got my eye on some Sinden lightguns now
@@manaboutsound me too, they just updated so you can have 2 running on the same instance of software, so I'm buying two.
Titchgamers Retro Gaming is the guy for proper sinden setup
game load success but nothing happen.... what to do now?
there's an extra step in the setup with the new versions. check the LB page now as I have just updated the instructions
Thank you for making this. I think I followed everything correctly and I can get games to run but they run very fast. Is there a way around that? Also, can this be run through Launchbox or am I going to run into issues?
You are not the first person with this issue. Do you have vsync on and or throttle? The other guy this happened to said setting power pc frequency to 200 helped. However, I managed to recreate this issue when I set my NVIDIA graphics setting to lowish but when I reverted back to performance it worked fine. Check ya vsync is on and if so then check ya performance settings with your graphics card and set to the highest setting if not already.
@@warpedpolygon thank you for the quick reply. Vsync was on. I didn't notice a difference with the throttle setting but shifting the Power setting from 69 to 200 did the trick!
I also was able to point Launchbox to the UI file by using all file types in the search. It was originally only showing Supermodel so it wouldn't work. I have to rechoose the game in the UI but no biggie.
Next experiment, changing the racing games to my Fanatec wheel and pedals. Hopefully changing inputs in the UI only affects the selected game.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
You are welcome!
How would you go about disabling the gun cursors in Jurassic park lost world? Is this something that can be set in the .ini file? Thank you very much🙏
In the UI set Crosshairs to NONE
@@warpedpolygon thank you so much my friend! Can you double check LA machine gun because it does not work as the other light games due. It’s not registering the movement. Only the firing. I would love to have that one work.
Got it to work. Wrong inputs. Still having trouble with controller recognizing Daytona 2, etc. tried in all different USB ports also.
@@statuecollector5723 What controller are you using?
@@warpedpolygon It’s from amazon, EasySMX Wired Gaming Controller,PC Game Controller Joystick with Dual-Vibration Turbo and Trigger Buttons for Windows PC/ PS3/ Android TV Box/Tesla(Bl. It works great with your model 2 build and is set up just like Xbox controller. It just won’t work on any games. Lightgun games are great though. Really frustrating me. Lol. I need your help.
hello please how to use my fighter stick ?
xinput or dinput?
Is there a similar UI or tutorial for Mac?
I don't think so. I'll never use Apple products so not sure what you can do
This emulator looks amazing in HDR and with reshade, and works great with my xbox gamepad. I can play the games fine and they look great, however, I've noticed I'm unable to hit "escape" and exit the emulator until I mouse click on the screen. Immediately when I do that, the HDR no longer works, but I'm able to exit the game. Can someone tell me how to exit with the gamepad or the escape key, without having to interact with the mouse? Thanks if you can help!
I dont use reshade so unable to help on this one. Exiting with the controller is possible in BigBox but will need a AHK with esc bound to whatever you want if you are using supermodel outside of BigBox
@@warpedpolygon thanks, the script I’m using works with every other emulator I have, but its not working with this one. Actually it does work, if I mouse click on the screen first, but I’m looking for a script to avoid doing that. For some reason it seem like the main overlaying window is not active with the supermodel emulator until I mouse click on it, I can control games fine, but just can’t close them out properly if that makes sense? I’d love to see the script you use for Bigbox that closes supermodel with game pad. Thanks if you can help :)
wow thank you!
You're welcome!
I don't know why but, when I tried to play Daytona USA 2 everything was zoomed in and really slow for some reason. Can you please tell me what the hell is wrong here I'm so frustrated and confused.
Is your 'scale and layout' in Windows settings above 100%?
Hi thanks a lot for this,I downloaded it and it works great,finally I can play scud racer without over twitchy controls,it drives perfect with my xbox controller.
By the way the Romset I put in the roms directory,there is about 4 different versions of scud racer and only one version seems to work I think it's the scud plus version,does that mean my Romset is the problem or doesn't the emulator support the other 3 versions of scud racer,there is an Australian version a plus-a version and one other but only the scud-plus works
scud and scudplus both work on my end and I only use those as the others have no exclusive content. what issue are you having with scud?
Hi scudplus rom works and loads great but the scud rom,scudplusa rom,scuddx and scudau roms they try to load it comes up saying drive board initialising and then goes to say cancelled network board not present
What would be causing that do you think.
@@garryw1974 by not using the NVRAM files :) Use those to fix or........Go into test menu of the game then select 'game assignments' and 'change link' ID to 'SINGLE'
Great work! I have the supermodel sega model 3 emulator working perfectly when I use the supermodel UI. I have been trying to run supermodel out of launchbox though and I am running into an issue. Everything works perfect when i run from the UI, but when I run from Launchbox using the supermodel.exe executable file, the audio never works on any sega model 3 games, no matter what settings I use. Does anyone know what the issue might be, and has anyone had success with everything working perfectly, including audio, and running from launchbox? Any tips on getting the audio to work when running Supermodel out of Launchbox?
Nevermind, got it working! I had too many extra option parameters in Launchbox, I removed those, and now I am good to go on Launchbox!
Nevermind, got it working! I had too many extra option parameters in Launchbox, I removed those, and now I am good to go on Launchbox!
Awesome. Because everything is set in the .ini file no extra parameters are needed
I can't get the Sega Model 3 UI. Most of the links don't work and the two that do look really dodgy and are asking me to install browser extensions. Are there any alternative places to download it?
Supermodel Forums is the best alternative :)
Would this work too for the NVRAM file on Star Wars Trilogy? "clear the nvram so you have 0 credits and then set the nvram as read only. It wont track high scores but prevents the black screen if you accidentally leave credits in." Thank you!
If you agree, how do I do this please? Thank you again!
Just use Free Play. That generally fixes the issue. All these games have been set to free play with this configuration.
@@warpedpolygon thank you happy new year! What should I configure for the start button in order to get beyond the first screen? When I said it to free play, it won’t let me get beyond the intro screen unless I use my keyboard. I really just want to use a pre-configured button from the machine. Thanks again.
If I wanted to use the Model 3 emulator (and even the Model 2) in my arcade cab, does this pre-config complicate things for me? Should I be looking for something else?
Depends on the arcade setup you have. The NVRAM files may be of use but the control configuration is setup and tested with a controller and mouse. The racing games are setup for analogue input and if you are just using a joystick it wont work.
Everything here is useful to you apart from controls for arcade setups.
Will the NVRAM file fix the issue that I am having with Battle of Yavin not fully playing after it loads? It just goes to black with sound in the background after it gets past the x-wing fighter profile. Thank you so much!
Yes, it will help.
That issue is a known bug. If you have unused credits from a previous play session on your current play session this can happen. Setting to free play stops this from happening. Also if you smash buttons while it's loading up it can do the same thing
@@warpedpolygon Sir, my problem is that I put Supermodel and Sega Model 3 on a new computer and I am trying to connect it to an old Star Wars Trilogy machine that had the original arcade machine in it. This machine did not work anymore and my son who is autistic loves this game. So... I have a couple problems. To connect the game to the buttons that play the game I am stuck to a keyboard. I can get one button to map to an event button on a USB encoder board I installed. The other button maps to a coin button. So, if I use your NVRAM hack it will not have a button to load a coin initially and then you are stuck watching the opening scene with it showing FREE PLAY on the bottom. So I reinstalled everything without your hack and it loads with one credit. My son can keep hitting the credit button that I mapped out which is fine but I would rather it load with free play so I don't get a black screen when the game loads to the Battle of Yavin. I hope this makes sense and my wife and I would really appreciate any advice. Happy Christmas. Cheers!
@@cfitt The event button is the start button when in free play mode. It is mapped to right click on the mouse. Are you using a mouse to play?
Merry Christmas to you too
@@warpedpolygon no, I am trying to use the existing buttons from the arcade and have tried to map them from a usb encoder. I’ll try again but the event button I did map successfully did not let me enter the game on free play. Thank you!
Sir, thank you so much for your help. I hope I am not bothering you but I believe your NVRAM file will work I was just hoping to have the two buttons on the machine we have be the event buttons that start the game. This does not seem to happen. The game stays on the Free play opening screen. Any suggestions? Thank you!
none of the links are working/have the file anymore as of 6/9/2023
Updated setup guide th-cam.com/video/qFeNAZOQos4/w-d-xo.html
I'd love to see this running on Steam Deck. Steam OS
people have confirmed this does work on steamdeck
Thanks!!!
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For the games to go silky smoothly, just download Custom Resolution Utility and set up the video. I will write out a complete table.Just go through manual timing. Parameters Active: 1920 pixels 1080 lines ,Front porch: 48 pixels 3 lines , Sync width: 32 pixels 5 lines , Back porch: 80 pixels 22lines , blanking: 160 pixels 30 lines , Total: 2080 pixels 1110 lines. section Frequency . Refresh rate: 58.199 hz , Horizontal :64.600khz , Pixel clock: 134.37 MHz. Works on standard led lcd monitor. Have a nice day.
Thanks so much man. So does this match everything up with the original timings?
once again, top top work mate, its works a treat!! right...... i do have an issue, nothing youve done, but you may be able to help. this is happening on both model 2 and 3 emulators on steam deck, data is not being saved, no big deal, except sega rally 2 requires a certain amount of time and plays to unlock the celica and delta from SR1, again, no problem with normal sega rally 2, both cars are present, but SR2 delux they are not unlocked and because of the no save issue, i cant unlock them....... can you help?? help me okey won benobi, youre my only hope hahaaha ;)
The nvram file should save automatically. Is there a reason to play the deluxe version over the standard?
@@warpedpolygon they are completely different games mate. deluxe has different handling, car speed and liveries and was the 1st version of SR2, but it took years for peeps to sus out how to get it working on supermodel. I prefer the handling and repsol escort WRC over the later version...... but i cant unlock my beloved celica hahahaa. the game data not saving is an issue with linux, everything works fine on windows, and im having the issue with both M2 and M3 emulators. if need be ill just have to play it more on PC to unlock the extras ;)
@@toweleeielite well i certainly missed that one. I'll have to update the configs to include it now. What's the unlock criteria? I can't remember for the life of me
@@warpedpolygon this is the big unknown. its supposed to be 4 weeks and 100 plays, but i had tem unlocked on the normal version well quicker than 4 weeks, another site says 1000 plays. toi be safe id go 1000 plays and 1000 hours...... cant go far wrong there. and nice one btw, youre a star mate ;)
@@warpedpolygon FYI mate, the save game issue is due to the way the steam deck closes the application. if i dock the deck hahaa, and then exit the emulator via the escape key everything is fine and data is saved, any other way and the emulator thinks its had a crash and dumps the new data.....
Probably yes
This is cool and all, but the gear shifter being mapped to the joystick is AWFUL
What would you prefer?
@@warpedpolygon A = shift 1 B = shift 4 X =shift 2 Y = shift 3. That is what my original daytona usa and daytona usa 2001 buttons are mapped too but may vary for others