The REUNION of Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings Episode 2 Review

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  • Sonic X Shadow Generations: Dark Beginnings Episode 2 explores the bonds of Shadow the Hedgehog with some surprising connections.
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    Sonic the Hedgehog[a] is a video game series and media franchise created by the Japanese developers Yuji Naka, Naoto Ohshima, and Hirokazu Yasuhara for Sega. The franchise follows Sonic, an anthropomorphic blue hedgehog who battles the evil Doctor Eggman, a mad scientist. The main Sonic the Hedgehog games are platformers mostly developed by Sonic Team; other games, developed by various studios, include spin-offs in the racing, fighting, party and sports genres. The franchise also incorporates printed media, animations, feature films, and merchandise.
    Naka, Ohshima, and Yasuhara developed the first Sonic game, released in 1991 for the Sega Genesis, to provide Sega with a mascot to compete with Nintendo's Mario. Its success helped Sega become one of the leading video game companies during the fourth generation of video game consoles in the early 1990s. Sega Technical Institute developed the next three Sonic games, plus the spin-off Sonic Spinball (1993). A number of Sonic games were also developed for Sega's 8-bit consoles, the Master System and Game Gear. After a hiatus during the unsuccessful Saturn era, the first major 3D Sonic game, Sonic Adventure, was released in 1998 for the Dreamcast. Sega exited the console market and shifted to third-party development in 2001, continuing the series on Nintendo, Xbox, and PlayStation systems. Takashi Iizuka has been the series' producer since 2010.
    While Sonic games often have unique game mechanics and stories, they feature recurring elements such as the ring-based health system, level locales, and fast-paced gameplay. Games typically feature Sonic setting out to stop Eggman's schemes for world domination, and the player navigates levels that include springs, slopes, bottomless pits, and vertical loops. Later games added a large cast of characters; some, such as Miles "Tails" Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, and Shadow the Hedgehog, have starred in spin-offs. The franchise has crossed over with other video game franchises in games such as Mario & Sonic, Sega All-Stars, and Super Smash Bros. Outside of video games, Sonic includes comic books published by Archie Comics, Fleetway Publications, and IDW Publishing; animated series such as The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog (1993), Sonic X (2003-2006), and Sonic Prime (2022-2024); a live-action film series distributed by Paramount Pictures; and toys including Lego construction sets.
    Sonic the Hedgehog is Sega's flagship franchise and one of the bestselling video game franchises, selling over 140 million units by 2016 and grossing over $5 billion as of 2014. Series sales and free-to-play mobile game downloads totaled 1.6 billion as of 2023. The Genesis Sonic games have been described as representative of the culture of the 1990s and listed among the greatest of all time. Although later games, notably the 2006 game, received poorer reviews, Sonic is influential in the video game industry and is frequently referenced in popular culture. The franchise is known for its fandom that produces unofficial media, such as fan art and fangames.
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  • @BritBox777
    @BritBox777 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +122

    If Black Arms are a hivemind of Black Doom DNA, then even one surviving alien could become a new Black Doom. We thought he was finished because all the aliens got blown up with Black Comet... but what if this larvae is still alive? Shadow is getting nightmares in view of the ARK and he needs to go "check" something, right? What other reason could Black Doom's return be found on the ARK unless that larvae is all that remains. Just fuel for thought you might enjoy!

    • @bbguy2245
      @bbguy2245 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nah what's happened it time eater has already taken black doom to the present. Shadow starts investigating and the game starts on the ark. Then when black doom starts messing with him he ends up in white space

    • @BritBox777
      @BritBox777 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@bbguy2245 While possible, that does mean a LOT of what's been set up would be for nothing. And I don't think Ian writes that way. Not to mention the larvae is shown to (possibly) have escaped containment in the manga. Shadow doesn't seem worried about Time Eater at all in the opening of Space Colony Act I, but he IS chasing after a Doom's Eye that's trying to escape the ARK, saying "I won't let you get away". So it seems more likely Time Eater doesn't even show up until after Black Doom has revived and escaped, then Shadow gets thrown into white space. As a bonus, the only time we've seen Black Doom in non-eye form is a hologram projection in the trailer. Meaning the "time of his resurrection" he mentions in the trailer could be... literally him trying to regain his strength and return, which Shadow needs to prevent. If Time Eater just pulled him back from the past, none of that would be needed.
      Sure, it's just a theory, but I think there's a lot of evidence this was Ian's plan ever since he introduced that larvae for the manga months ago.

    • @TheHallow31
      @TheHallow31 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      "Hey, Shadow! It's me again! I've got some fun new sin ideas!"

    • @bbguy2245
      @bbguy2245 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@BritBox777 Ian flynn isn't that smart. It makes no sense to have black doom return as a main villain in a game about time travel just to be brought back in present day.
      This is ESPECIALLY backed up by the fact space colony ark act 1 happens in the PRESENT not the past based on what we are seeing so far as rouge we know still makes it to the party

    • @BritBox777
      @BritBox777 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@bbguy2245 I don't follow what you mean. We know Space Colony Act I happens once Shadow gets to the ARK after the shorts, when was that doubted? Doesn't change anything. Also, Ian is a smart guy, give him a break.

  • @FowaJCT
    @FowaJCT 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +70

    9:15 Sonic didn't know his friends were throwing him a birthday, it was supposed to be a surprise.

    • @ZachaRicO
      @ZachaRicO 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Maybe Tails asked her to invite Shadow, then.

    • @BritBox777
      @BritBox777 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Even if Sonic didn't know, Rouge knows he would want Shadow to come even if he won't admit it.

    • @AdamSelvig
      @AdamSelvig 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ZachaRicOtails did

    • @EvelynWn
      @EvelynWn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      The original generations game did suggest that Sonic usually figures out the surprise parties are happening before hand. He claims they got him this time, but I didn't really think he sounded all that convincing. Even if they really did surprise him this time, it confirms that Tails usually throws Sonic a surprise party. So even if he didn't know when or where it was happening he could still assume it was going to happen and ask her to talk Shadow into it.
      That being said, I still think she's doing it because she wants Shadow to get out and have some fun. The dude did just tell her the Black Arms may have survived. Black Doom emotionally manipulated Shadow last time. It's got to be rough on him to wonder.

  • @JohnDoe-dw3hj
    @JohnDoe-dw3hj 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    That giant Egg Pawn is the Egg Breaker from the Shadow the Hedgehog game. The one that says "You know what they say, the more the merrier"

    • @jessiebell6884
      @jessiebell6884 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JohnDoe-dw3hj he's turned the sky into a fuchsia Windows background.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Seeing team dark makes me so happy because I miss this team so much.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Glad to see they canonized the commander’s Archie name.
    I’m pretty neutral on that book, it’s not my cup of tea but I appreciate it as a part of Sonic’s legacy and it’s nice to see some element of it finally get some acknowledgment in modern canon.

    • @Rishi123456789
      @Rishi123456789 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love the Archie Sonic comics and the Archie Knuckles comics. I still ship Knuckles with Julie-Su to this day. lol

  • @giorgimamalashvili4220
    @giorgimamalashvili4220 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    3:24 justified reaction

  • @Chaos_867
    @Chaos_867 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    I’m so sad there will only be one episode left and we might never get this art and animation style again.
    SEGA MAKE A SONIC SHOW WITH THIS LEVEL OF ANIMATION AND WRITING

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Or better yet how about for the next big 3d sonic game have the cutscenes be animated in a artstyle similar to this

    • @Chaos_867
      @Chaos_867 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah that would be awesome

  • @jackskirata4819
    @jackskirata4819 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Theory: During one of the Black Comet’s passes, Black Doom met with the ancients to seize the Emeralds. When the Ancients fought back and kept the emeralds. Black Doom sold them out to The End.

    • @Jamfrog35
      @Jamfrog35 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      love that theory

  • @EvelynWn
    @EvelynWn 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Your comment on Maria hugging Shadow like Amy did made me realize that the last person to hug Shadow before Amy was probaby Maria. And that he probably thought of Maria immediantly when he realized he was bring hugged... Maybe even instinctively assumed it was her at first. And now im sad.

    • @davidbeer5015
      @davidbeer5015 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And would play into the fact that when Amy hugged him, he didn’t react or move, probably in shock or some emotional flashback to Maria.

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    If they got the name from Archie Sonic, it's probably Ian Flynn sneaking it in since he would have been the one who named the GUN Commander back in the Archie days. He probably just put in the name he had given the character previously and Sega had no objections or didn't notice or care.

  • @RaiginAnimator
    @RaiginAnimator 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    3:24 PUP YOU ALMOST MADE ME SPIT OUT MY CEREAL BROOOO

    • @fl0837
      @fl0837 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so much for level-headed fanboy lol

    • @technorave555
      @technorave555 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@fl0837he is Fanboy Supervillain, after all

  • @KaleBennett
    @KaleBennett 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    I think more exposure to this series has helped some elements grow on me, even if it's still not my preferred style. I think this episode all around was much more enjoyable with the emotions in the opening and the Team Dark dynamic. I'm looking forward to part 3

  • @TheZeroNeonix
    @TheZeroNeonix 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love that shot of the larva's eye over Shadow's reflection. Symbology.

  • @agentomecha634
    @agentomecha634 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I like the little detail of the Egg Pawns dawning the Samurai look from Aquarium Park in this animation. It’s a cool attention to detail as Sonic Generations took place right after Sonic Colors in the timeline.
    Overall part 2 was another great animation. It’s nice to see Team Dark fighting together again and exploring more of Shadow’s past on the Ark. It’s also cool to see the GUN Commander again and to see them use his name from the Archie Comics. Looking forward to seeing what part 3 will have in store.

  • @robertkovarna8294
    @robertkovarna8294 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Correction. Sonic Team had said every time we've seen the Moon, its always been facing the undestroyed side. The animations here are just highlighting that yes, the moon still is destroyed partially. And I'd actually love if new Sonic games even if they don't show the shattered side, still have the little saturn like ring of debris around it. A good compromise if they do so.

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Or maybe they could have the broken half the moon be replace with an artifical moon piece as a little reference to sonic x

    • @MatthewCobalt
      @MatthewCobalt 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thinking about it now... Why can't we have it (almost) both ways?
      With the reduced Mass of the moon, it could easily be said that its rotations are no longer aligned so that one face is only visible.

  • @blackfox4138
    @blackfox4138 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm REALLY hoping that Rouge plays a bigger role in this game. I've always said, Rouge is Shadow's best friend. Her extroverted flirtatious nature pairs so well with his brooding introversion, and you really do get the sense that both of them care real deeply for each other. Shadow will always help Rouge without question, and Rouge will always work to help Shadow become a better person. I'm really hoping they involve her more with Shadow moving forward.

  • @brickzoneanimations8395
    @brickzoneanimations8395 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This Episode was fire! Rouge's Voice Actress is definitely improved since Dream Team, Omega sounds amazing! and the action is unparalleled! Im speechless on how good and amazing this is! also I like how everytime rouge gets excited she gets a sparkle in her eye!

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It seems like Megan Hollingshead should have been a good Rouge had 4Kids cast her as such.

  • @TB-fe4up
    @TB-fe4up 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Dark beginnings is really epic. They confirmed that Gun comander have the same name like in the Archie comics. And Team Dark is back. This is one of the best thing we ever got from Sonic series.

  • @takeruneverborn4740
    @takeruneverborn4740 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Not gonna lie Pup seeing Team Dark Back Together Wrecking Badniks and A Egg Smasher was Awesome Sauce from Start to End also love how Shadow just Sigh when Rouge states she help him out in exchange he comes to Sonic Birthday Party in shadow mind he really does have more important things to deal with in that moment in time

  • @featherguardian6023
    @featherguardian6023 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Didn’t expect to see another Flashback to Shadow and Maria with Abe that’s the Current GUN Commander that was like a Brother to Maria and despite Shadow After her Passing but it’s unclear if they both let go of the Past and if the Commander will be in Sonic X Shadow, he’ll I love how Rouge and Onega are Protrayed that it will seem that this Prologue will end with Shadow going to the Ark, plus Shadow is more than a Alien Weapon and Maria Knows This, 10 out of 10, Sega are Cooking with these Animations.

  • @Stevemaster67
    @Stevemaster67 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    3:24 That was so unpredictable 😂😂😂

    • @hamzamohamed6774
      @hamzamohamed6774 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I literally thought it was a different person that was screaming

    • @Stevemaster67
      @Stevemaster67 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@hamzamohamed6774 fr even when he reacted to Mephiles he didn't sound like himself

    • @hamzamohamed6774
      @hamzamohamed6774 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Stevemaster67 mainly because his normal voice is pretty mature

  • @PepperMistAnimations
    @PepperMistAnimations 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    When you hyped about Team Dark, I HYPED TOO!!!!
    And I'm so glad you mentioned the Amy and Maria parallels!! Amy is such a fundamental part of Sonic stories and it just sucks whenever she is replaced with someone else for that scene with Shadow's change of heart (Sonic X and now Movie 2). But I'm just glad that in the main game Canon she still did what she did 💗
    Awesome review!!!
    (Not a shipper either but...I can see the Shadamy appeal so much too lmao 😆🖤❤)

  • @meganshaw1949
    @meganshaw1949 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Agreeded. ShadAmy is sweetly awesome ❤️💕.

  • @EthanLR
    @EthanLR 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Tackle hug theory FTW

  • @jackhumphries1087
    @jackhumphries1087 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    6:44 that’s actually the egg breaker from shadow the hedgehog

  • @KOTSOSMC2002
    @KOTSOSMC2002 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The only potential issue with future levels (Sunset Heights, Chaos Island and maybe other future levels like Lost Hex or Dodon Pa's planet) in SxS Gens is the inclusion of future events and characters. Lost Hex, Chaos Island and Dodon Pa's planet are safe of any ruined timeline consistency definitely but I'm worried about Sunset Heights. Shadow visiting Sunset Heights in the future (and he'll know it's the future cause obviously it is, what he'll experience will not have happened yet) while the Eggman Empire is taking over the city with a whole army and probably Infinite's there as well, a guy he very openly does not know of in Sonic Forces: Episode Shadow, the whole story of the DLC being built around Infinite hating Shadow while Shadow doesn't even know who he is, are inconsistencies that cannot work under any context whatsoever.
    Shadow encountering Infinite ANNIHILATES that whole thing. Shadow would know of the Eggman Empire's upcoming attempt at world domination, maybe the Phantom Ruby's resurgence and of Infinite's upbringing and we're supposed to believe he'd do NOTHING with that information. Maybe that's why he went after Eggman's bases around Sunset Heights' vicinity and took out Jackal Squad but that's a stretch to say the least.

  • @SmashProX
    @SmashProX 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "We never got along."
    That doesn't mean Sonic hates him. It just means that Shadow's difficult to handle, which is true with nearly everyone except Rouge.

  • @truemetalsonic
    @truemetalsonic 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    that was a very good reaction to team dark coming back together - i replayed it 3 times because it caught me off guard.

  • @CaptainF123
    @CaptainF123 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This episode was SO GOOD
    Iwas brought to tears when the Kid GUN Commander said "Tell that disgusting Black Creature to get out of my sight" Phenomenal writing 😭😭 #KnowingSmile

  • @relaxedhoodie7309
    @relaxedhoodie7309 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    “OH MY GOD. YES. YES. WE’VE NEVER BEEN SO BACK” on god Pup. Me too dude. Me too.

  • @THEagleAssassin
    @THEagleAssassin 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Did anyone notice Rouge wasn’t moving her wings to fly at the end of the short? Can she float in the air now without any assistance?! Probably budget limitations if I had to guess.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      To be fair, has she ever been seen actually flapping her wings? 👀 I think it's just a cartoon logic thing.

    • @Bestmotion2389
      @Bestmotion2389 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I know, right?
      It reminds me of this video with the bird not flapping wings th-cam.com/video/Nyf79SI0U9Q/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0YjxAEgh6Y8zBDUy

    • @THEagleAssassin
      @THEagleAssassin 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ChannelPup sonic prime did a better job animating Rouge, but they most likely had a better budget.
      I was also thinking “cartoon logic,” but honestly it’s just being cheap on Sega’s part.

    • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL
      @kaxcommentssomethingREAL 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      wasn't this also a thing in Sonic X or am i thinking wrong?

    • @THEagleAssassin
      @THEagleAssassin 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@kaxcommentssomethingREAL not sure, but I think it’s good animation to have Rouge actually flap her wings to fly in the air.

  • @MiniflickATC
    @MiniflickATC 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    3:27 "level headed fan boy"

  • @soundaryasahoo4581
    @soundaryasahoo4581 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Well don't know if they should do this or not.... But they should make this kind of animations for each games to coverup the plot holes.....

  • @FineArtsMusic
    @FineArtsMusic 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The new intro song is giving baby one more time Britney Spears vibes with the piano motif 😂. Anyways, nice video

  • @danielsalazar9163
    @danielsalazar9163 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If Shadow Generation is any indication of what the next Sonic game may look like then I can’t wait to be blown away what they’ll do.

  • @PluckyInc
    @PluckyInc 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i subscribe to the idea that the villain of the game is technically Black Doom, just that the Shadow we see throughout Sonic Adventure 2 is actually the result of a altered timeline. when Maria hugged shadow he had brief PSTD attacks and what seems to be a personality shift towards being more certain and confident. but the intercom mentioned that multiple subjects escaped to the weapons room (assuming it's not any artificial chaos. and the biolzard was probably at the basement, sedated by the master emerald altar). but Shadow for some reason mentions GUN appearing much earlier. maybe originally Shadow in an original timeline was created slightly later but before Gerald originally handed the Gizoid to GUN.
    it makes sense since he presumably based some kind of Soul-implanting process from the creation of Shadow, to curb the Gizoid's impulses. in Battle, it was mentioned that he handed GUN the Gizoid to keep them off his back about Project Shadow. i'd think the alternate timeline, Gerald injected himself, then Maria with the Larva's DNA in the hopes of generating generational antibodies to fight against Maria's condition, before creating Shadow.
    this version of Shadow loses Gerald and Maria by GUN, or possibly during the Gizoid attack and blames them for their deaths. he lives for over 50 years until Shadow the Hedgehog starts, where Black Doom reveals that he has Maria and Gerald's souls, and can reincarnate them as pseudo-humans. but the deal goes sour when humanity assumes that Shadow was an alien all along (mirroring Omega's sealing of shadow in the bad future of 06). Shadow kills Black Doom and becomes the new head of the black arms race, escaping into space. where he finds the Time Eater which is revealed to have chrono-singularital properties that calls out for other Black Arms (implying that it's a psionic death-scream).
    Alternate Shadow/Doom leaves Doom canisters in white space for our shadow to find, in the attempt to take over his body. when our Shadow initially has memories, that the other shadows' memories flowing in. he notices the events what occured happened much differently. the time echoes started after Sonic defeated Eggman at the end of Colors, where our version of the Time Eater is controlled by eggman, enabling Alternate Shadow to coax the Larva into transmitting visions to Shadow.
    Shadow will be in white space and see his allies, as well as Gerald/Maria to pull him closer. advertising/ingame dialogue will make you think that Black Doom came back, but it's Alternate Shadow. they'll also state that the Black Arms race are a mindhive polyglot where the only way to make sure they're not a threat is to eliminate their collective (the black comet), as well as the head (Black Doom). presumably Time Eater died of natural causes, creating what'd eventually became The End, whereas The End was sealed off entirely when the ancients sealed him inside the Starfall Islands' cyberspace, causing the Black Comet to spawn Black Doom.
    i'd just guess *somehow*, Alternate Shadow prodded Black Doom just enough to get him to tell Gerald to just implant DNA inside a hedgehog only, this time. and to tell him that there are 7 Chaos Emeralds. with the assumption that the Larva existed in both scenarios, but the Space Colony Ark remains intact too. maybe Original Shadow remembers the Larva, because Alternate Shadow may have *eaten* the Larva so his Black Doom doesn't reappear.

  • @evergreen_kate
    @evergreen_kate 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a Shadouge fan, I still respect and admire the Shadamy ship. It makes sense given their characters, but so just love the Shadouge dynamic so much.

  • @stanzacosmi
    @stanzacosmi 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    8:55 When I think "We never got along" i don't think "I hate this guy". personally when someone says "We never got along" it means "the two of us butt heads alot." Which considering how often they seem to fight in both the games and the comic. It doesn't mean they can't be friends or respect eachother or anything, it just means "Hanging around for too long could get us into a fight"
    Especially considering the line when shadow abandons the true hero route in shadow the hedgehog last second he says that he's not siding with the black arms, he just doesn't like sonic.

  • @chubbz5873
    @chubbz5873 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    6:28 who wouldn't

    • @hamzamohamed6774
      @hamzamohamed6774 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
      both of you

  • @joshuasanderson7359
    @joshuasanderson7359 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I gasped when the commander was shown. They're making such good stuff with these

  • @bensboneyard6379
    @bensboneyard6379 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love seeing the sonic games draw influences and inspirations from other sonic media

  • @badollies
    @badollies 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    seeing team dark in action again feels so right! action is so fire and character portrayal is on point

  • @darkchaos3474
    @darkchaos3474 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You’re forgetting that Sonic’s birthday party was a surprise party

  • @Axxidous
    @Axxidous 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve been saying for a long time that Amy is a parallel of Maria. I also said that they could have included her in the third movie if they wanted to by taking that route. Having her talk to Sonic when he is having a moral dilemma. And then talk to Shadow later, but also clearly being a parallel to Maria.
    In their first interaction in SA2 he doesn’t look bothered by her, hugging him.
    And, in fact, going forward, he is only ever seemed to be fond of her. And I don’t mean in a romantic manner. But he IS the one who bought Hot Honey tickets for her birthday. lol

  • @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730
    @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't exactly expect to hear Nya's voice coming out of Rouge, especially in the line, "I'm gathering intel for G.U.N.!". If any Ninjago character's voice and personality would fit Rouge I would assume it would be Skylor's.

  • @SoranotRoxas
    @SoranotRoxas 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    *The voice acting is really too good, and the animation is absolute peak. Ian Flynn 🐐 and Sega is cooking bro!* 💯🔥

  • @sonicblazer820
    @sonicblazer820 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How tf did I not know roger voices omega now! I even watched the tails tube episode and rewatched it recently and only knew about it cuz he was unfiltered!

    • @hamzamohamed6774
      @hamzamohamed6774 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yo I actually didn't know that

  • @faz10do
    @faz10do 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just listened to episode 156 of sunset city, And honestly nick was right I believe it was gonna come out on Thursday but something got screwed up

  • @altreon3608
    @altreon3608 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:53 this animation has to be a reference to both Twin Lightning Shiver from Naruto and the punch SS3 Goku did to fat Janemba that sent him into the jelly bean pile in Fusion Reborn

  • @Twilord_
    @Twilord_ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My fan theory with The Commander having grey hair as a child is that he also had a terminal illness... a different illness to Maria and he actually was successful cured. Granted I have always kinda loved the idea that GUN brainwashed a child to be their mouthpiece and help the cover-up... only for it to bite the entirety of humanity in the ass because he was having a break down when humanity needed him most.
    Also that is the Egg Breaker from Shadow 1.

  • @TheLsp2011
    @TheLsp2011 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We need to have an entire series dedicated to Team Dark going on various missions, or just overall interacting. While Shadow may not fully admit it, Rouge and Omega are the only ones he could deem as close friends.

  • @fam3871
    @fam3871 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:02 That DOES look amazing 🤯

  • @sheriefwoodard8686
    @sheriefwoodard8686 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    4:37 Huh. That’s a good point they even dress similarly

    • @mazkeraid4039
      @mazkeraid4039 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Noooot even close!

  • @TheHallow31
    @TheHallow31 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Shadow fans eatin' like it's Thanksgiving.
    Someone pass me a fork!

  • @Miju001
    @Miju001 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I actually like that Sonic and Shadow dislike each other! I'm with you that they felt unnecessarily antagonistic in the TailsTube, and that it's nice to see the whole dynamic around Rouge nudging Shadow to go to Sonic's birthday party. But I think Sonic and Shadow also inherently get on each other's nerves, while at the same time respecting each other in a way that no one else really can.
    They're very similar in certain aspects, like how they'll always stay true to themselves without listening to what other people say, but at the same time they disagree on the specifics, like with Sonic generally having a more heroic demeanor. I think those differences make it so that they can never really see eye to eye unless one of them were to compromise on their ideas; and those similarities mean that they know the other would never do that, because they themselves wouldn't either. Their dislike for each other doesn't reflect their opinion of each other; and in fact it's kind of the opposite, they're as adamant as they are about their distaste for each other only because of the strong understanding and respect for each other's position.

  • @jessiebell6884
    @jessiebell6884 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    From what I can gather, the extent of Karen Strassman's "extreme political views" came down to her liking a couple of Trump tweets. That's. . . Not that extreme, to be honest, even if I don't know the content of those tweets. You were right saying a person won't become better by having people lobbying to have their job taken away, but in this case, I'm not even sure "becoming a better person" is a necessary change when I and a lot of others just don't have that information to begin with and so can't pass judgement. I'm willing to bet nobody in this comment section has met her in person, so the outrage feels incredibly forced to begin with.

    • @Dmarkea315
      @Dmarkea315 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is how I feel about people hating on J. K. Rowling. like, there’s no way that y’all actually know who this person is. They take their stance on a political issue, and people immediately say that they’re a terrible person because the stance they took doesn’t line up with their own stances?? … Is that really it? I’m getting increasingly concerned that ‘the public’ is hating on people just for voicing their opinions… though, now that I say that, Im remembering that the Sonic community has kind of been doing that for a while now…. I don’t know, I’m just concerned.

  • @megashadow1390
    @megashadow1390 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Shadamy? Oof bro i wouldn't get my hopes up

  • @rubydragoon720
    @rubydragoon720 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    11:37
    I'm so glad people like you are calling out this kind of nonsense, while yes its not ideal rallying for someone to lose their livelihood over their views and opinions is something; I personally will not defend or stand behind, that's a subject I'll leave alone as.. it can get messy.

    • @Goobywoobygoo
      @Goobywoobygoo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      He didn’t call it out he said it was valid…

  • @IconPNG
    @IconPNG 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The way you tackled the Karen's topic was really respectful and unlike a lot of people I've seen around. Profund respect to you and your work dude!

  • @SoranotRoxas
    @SoranotRoxas 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a much better voice performance from Rouge than whatever the heck dream team was 😅

  • @EdgarChikara
    @EdgarChikara 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    5:25 when was Sonic X ever cannon? Lol

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      It kinda served at the time to fill in some of the blanks with Sonic continuity. It has long since been decanonized though, that was just a lil' joke.

  • @angrybrony
    @angrybrony 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:24 is that the loudest his been in a vid holy shit.

  • @sonicrespinned
    @sonicrespinned 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    3:28 I honestly didn’t recognize you for a moment lol 🤣

  • @McKnighty
    @McKnighty 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who’s gonna tell Channel Pup that the only reason the GUN commander is named Abraham in the short was because the same person who wrote Archie also wrote this short…
    and not because SEGA cares about Archie…

  • @indicidian7179
    @indicidian7179 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love sonic X but it was never cannon its always been its own continuity

  • @thegamingembassy1543
    @thegamingembassy1543 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We are back. Missed Omega. Like Omega said, I call dibs.

  • @xiiiunmetal
    @xiiiunmetal 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I hope GUN Commander Abe is a boss fight in the game.

  • @darkron288
    @darkron288 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i haven't really kept up with sonic for a bit, i tuned out after 2006 and only really paid attention to the movies plus frontier, so this is the first time hearing rouge's new va, and its so bad, like she sounds too young and bubbly to play rouge, rouge is clearly meant to the be the sexy cat burglar type and this voice does not match rouge's design at all, i think they really do need to hire another va for rouge's next apparence

  • @Toysonicandfriends2
    @Toysonicandfriends2 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That giant egg pawn is the egg breaker mech from shadow game

  • @fandomlover6778
    @fandomlover6778 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ngl I really want Karen to be a rouge va but her voice just doesn’t sound like rouge to me I feel Kathleen connected with rouge and I always will see Kathleen as rouge the bat heck I even like kazumi evans for her performance on prime I feel they knew who rouge is

  • @ng3176
    @ng3176 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:23 sonic didn't do shit tho, he didn't even know they were throwing a party for him in Gens, so this was probably at the request of Tails or funnily enough Amy.

  • @keelanbarron928
    @keelanbarron928 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    9:43 the problem wasn't "how are those stages gonna be in the game", it is "the time eater thing was about eggman undoing his mistakes from his past and sonic travelling through his past, so why would eggman undo something he hasn't lived through with forces and frontiers?". People keep trying to justify it in terms of the story when, in reality, it's because the assets were already done, and they just wanted to put them in there to buff up the gametime. There's no actual reason for why sunset heights and chaos Island is in the game aside from that, and people trying to justify it just makes them look like idiots.

  • @superbowser2715
    @superbowser2715 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    team dark

  • @SHMidlerPlays
    @SHMidlerPlays 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just thought about something, do we know if anything had happened to that Black Arms larvae from the first minute of this Dark Beginnings episode? And maybe that is how Black Doom managed to survive, I literally just thought about this as I was watching this video

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think that's exactly what that's all about.

  • @midnighttheumbreon
    @midnighttheumbreon 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love both SonAmy and ShadAny they are both really good ships!
    bur yeah ship stuff as side that episode was great I love dark beginnings!

  • @nathanielvaughn6728
    @nathanielvaughn6728 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can't exactly decanonize Sonic X if it was never canon to begin with. But if the movies can be _added_ to canon...

  • @HdNinjaMsBrickStudio
    @HdNinjaMsBrickStudio 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Under 1 hour gang (52 minutes)

  • @AalimAamaneeMuhammadRabiu
    @AalimAamaneeMuhammadRabiu 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every one will regret saying that sonic is bad

  • @ChibiSteak
    @ChibiSteak 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:07 fin.

  • @danmiddleton4581
    @danmiddleton4581 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What if they're reconning where sonic Gens takes place? Maybe Frontiers happened a week ago and shadow was there longer ago.
    But then that retcons the flashback cutscene when Eggman and Robotnik reaveal thenselevs how he was left in space after Colours 🤔 I don't know

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They could just make the excuse that places like sunset heights or chaos island are places from the future

  • @AdamSelvig
    @AdamSelvig 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Team dark returns

  • @sabretoothtiger4314
    @sabretoothtiger4314 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    6:28, AYO?

  • @frickerrific2813
    @frickerrific2813 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wait? Omega was Roger?! Bros does a WAY BETTER Omega than Sonic WTF!

  • @TheFainter94
    @TheFainter94 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sinxe sonic birthday psrty is a surprise im whilling to do a hard bet it was actually amy who asked rouge to invite shadow, she wouls easy be the one to tske a lead into making a sonic birthday party

  • @CHANIMATES
    @CHANIMATES 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What happened to the into anyway grate video can't believe archie sonic gun commander is cannon 😅 also you know rouge is a minor right lol

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Rouge definitely isn't a minor. 😂 Don't be ridiculous.

    • @PlatformPanic8369
      @PlatformPanic8369 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They definitely said she was 18 multiple times

  • @BlazeNeon1
    @BlazeNeon1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can they reanimate sonic x with this art style

  • @DOSFrost
    @DOSFrost 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So wheeeen are we gonna get a sonic game that looks like this?
    These are 3D models
    And I'm so tired of the brand safe and bland clay-looking models

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I think a sonic game with a cel shaded artstyle would look so cool

  • @KaleBennett
    @KaleBennett 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:43 Is this revenge for making fun of you being British?

  • @jskywalker58
    @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't heard about this til watching this video what is it about rouge's voice actor political views that got people upset?

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    is shadow going for amy because she reminds him of his dead childhood friend really better than amy stalking sonic becaise she just has the hots for him? :/

    • @PepperMistAnimations
      @PepperMistAnimations 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No, he has a soft spot for her because she has a kind heart like Maria AND because thanks to her he was able to remember that his purpose was not rooted in evil - but rather in hope for happiness.
      That being said, he's hardly "going after her" since they unfortunately hardly ever interact in games and related media 🤷‍♀️

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      like pup i'm not much of a sonic shipper myself but i'm more of a tails x amy shipper

  • @Mumbo_Jumbo11
    @Mumbo_Jumbo11 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    First comment can I get a pin?also love your content

  • @hydrocityshark
    @hydrocityshark 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m surprised that people want Karen Strassman out of the picture due to her political views, it’s not even related to her performance skills. By that logic, only one political party is allowed to have employment.

    • @jskywalker58
      @jskywalker58 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what is her political views exactly i haven't heard about this til watching this video

    • @hydrocityshark
      @hydrocityshark 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jskywalker58 I found this out recently, Strassman has right-wing views on vaccination and has liked some of Donald Trump’s tweets on election fraud.

  • @irkendragon
    @irkendragon 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm still not into this VA as Rouge, she's just too high pitched and young sounding for me, too close to Amy. I want VA's closer to the original SA2 actors for both Rouge and Shadow. But Strassman definitely did a better job this time around compared to Dream Team. Her voice in Dream Team was unbearable.

  • @Goobywoobygoo
    @Goobywoobygoo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I bet if Karen constantly posted about gay race communism you wouldn’t have any issues with that…

    • @TheHallow31
      @TheHallow31 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      People just gotta learn to separate art from artist.
      I personally don't give two figs what someone's political leanings are, just so long as they do a good job in the role they're given.

    • @PepperMistAnimations
      @PepperMistAnimations 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheHallow31 This 👆👏

  • @subaraz
    @subaraz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay, that scream was so unnecessary.

    • @JohnDoe-dw3hj
      @JohnDoe-dw3hj 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No it was totally necessary

    • @subaraz
      @subaraz 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JohnDoe-dw3hj Close enough.

    • @PepperMistAnimations
      @PepperMistAnimations 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Man got *me* hyped up with that scream, let the man be happy! 😆

  • @SpyroTigerDovefan34
    @SpyroTigerDovefan34 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Seeing team Dark makes me feel ashamed to be a Shadow fan. Seriously, why do people love this team when it makes no sense for Shadow as a character post-SA2?

    • @PepperMistAnimations
      @PepperMistAnimations 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Because it's a band of misfits who are not afraid to do good via the wrong means. They're anti-heroes. And the fact that Shadow can find kinship with them and open his heart to even more people thanks to them is character accurate for him. He's not a selfish, bad a$$. He's just a confused guy who started off with the wrong foot.

    • @SpyroTigerDovefan34
      @SpyroTigerDovefan34 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PepperMistAnimations eh, I feel the whole trope of the 'band of misfits' and 'edgy loner who actually has a lot of friends' are both overused. Shadow, IMHO, would be better suited to have no friends or team behind him and still good by any means necessary. A Shadow who does things on his lonesome, without any pushing or prodding from characters like Rose or Rouge, is far more than the one who has to be pushed into doing certain activities by such characters

    • @PepperMistAnimations
      @PepperMistAnimations 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@SpyroTigerDovefan34 But he's not being pushed into anything. Exactly like in this scene, he's doing his own thing and has his own motive but whenever they all meet up they are a coordinated group who won't stop each other from achieving their objectives.

    • @SpyroTigerDovefan34
      @SpyroTigerDovefan34 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PepperMistAnimations I would prefer if he had destroyed the base on his own and moving on when he realized there was nothing to gain. This is just nostalgia-baiting with no real character growth when it comes to Team Dark. Get rid of Team Dark and what changes in this episode?

    • @PepperMistAnimations
      @PepperMistAnimations 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SpyroTigerDovefan34 It changes that you want to take us back to the Shadow '05 era. The, "I do this alone" brooding loner, which is NOT who Shadow is. Rewatch the ending of Adventure 2, the Shadow you want is a Shadow with character assassination like in IDW during the Metal Virus (which was *horribly* executed).