Please remember that the eye relief / scope shadow while shooting is also dependent on the position of the scope on the gun, as well as the gun itself. Therefore, the same scopes actually perform different on different guns. There is actually a difference when using a picatinny raiser, for example, but it requires a lot of testing to find the optimal gun/scope/mount type (different dovetail mounts also have different heights and eye reliefs)
The Bravo is one of my favorite sights this wipe. Far better than the HAMR, and perfect when you don’t wanna spend the money for a Razor or Vudu on your gun build, or if you want less zoom than 6x.
bravo is my choice cause i hate putting reflex on top, im using bravo with canted 4x acog is pretty good too, but it would be better if that shitty rmr was as good as dp or ff
Just a correction, eye relief and eye box are different things even if they are related in that there would be scope shadow if they’re not right. Eye relief is the distance of the eye to the ocular. In tarkov, this would cause the scope shadow of the gun at rest, when not firing. It means that the optic is not properly positioned vis-à-vis the eye which causes the shadow. Eye box is the lateral and vertical movement of the eye from the ocular. This is something like the bobbing of the eye to the eye piece. This would then be relevant in full auto as the scope wouldn’t be in the perfect eye box while in recoil, hence causing scope shadow.
the picture in picture issues come with all scopes that have a backup sight by default, examples are AUG A1 optic, Elcan irons. If you are using a scope that can mount a backup optic, you won't get the lag, like Bravo or HAMR
I can say that the tac30 is unfortunately utterly unusable with NVGs; it used to only be usable with the armasight NVGS before the NVG rework, but now it is worse on all NVGs in addition to being horrible with the armasight. Truly sad as a night enjoyer, and previously a tac30 enjoyer
For the NcStar, its a bug thats been there for about 4yrs that I just recently learned about. Basically what is going on when you use the red dot on top of it, is the game still thinks you are either using the 3x or 9x scope. This has the affect as well on your turning speed which is severely reduced while using the red dot, as if you were scoped in and trying to look around. Hopefully it gets fixed eventually. 4 yrs is quite a long wait as is.
The PU is the best because of all the chads you clapped along the way while zoomed into that scope… Remember one shot mosins to the thorax? Back when I was but a little Timmy, naked in the bushes one shotting Altyn+Slick+Meta M4 man with nothing but a Mosin and and LPS round 🤩😂
hey giga think you could ever do a zoom comparison with some of the more extreme zooming scopes? it seems to me like the scopes with really high levels of zoom don’t actually zoom as much as they say they do. you can see this with the nightforce at 9:04
What's interesting is that they're ALL over the place. A lot of them aren't anywhere close to what they advertise. It's something BSG should address whenever (if) they do the rest of the scope rework they talked about some years ago@@Gigabeef
Valday is also very light compared to other scopes. I specifically use Valday on SVDS because it’s already a really heavy gun but with lightweight components you can min max its weight.
@@1975MANDORyes it does. When you go into a raid already super heavy and then you find a bunch of loot it becomes basically impossible to move without stims, lol.
I’ve been saying for ages. It is insane how Vudu and Razor are only expensive because everything else, more or less, is implemented like shit. Also, the horrid recoil that we have right now screws over most optics because you lose the sight picture when that initial kick occurs. Curious to see what happens with the recoil changes.
Informative! Edit: One suggestion, might be nice if each time you talk about a optic, you show the icon in the inventory like in the stims video. Itd help us newbies that dont know all the names yet!
I think a pk-as in this game would be a cool edition, it would function like a dovetail "monstrum" sight, and its drippy as hell and could be mounted on an aks74un
A lot of these scopes are much better now with the recoil rework, just to let everyone know who is coming to this video! I am sure Giga has mentioned it already, but here it is anyway! Good luck in your raids gamers!
I really don't like how all LPVO in Escape from Tarkov work like a Elcan Spectre, where there is 1 step up, like a toggle between the lowest 1x and highest 4x-6x-8x mode. In reality, these modern LPVO have true variable zoom, meaning that the zoom level can be adjusted very accurately and incrementally in a smooth fashion by either twisting the scope body in some way or by some other interface. On the 1x-8x Schmitt & Bender, you can see these markings on the top of the scope that would indicate all levels of zoom, which correspond to the 1x all the way up to 8x, but in game it only responds as the Spectre Elcan would with only allowing a fixed 1x or 8x setting. I should be able to scroll my mouse wheel and smoothly zoom in from 1x all the way up to 8x.
@@mikedebakker5820 depends on fire mode and fov, if he is using the triangle classic rainbow six siege acog with high fov, he is likely to get better performance than a simple 1 x or monstrum while also being able to snipe if need be, for full auto id use lazer hipfire or canted sights. On top of that with having a stable constant zoom level will help you get used to bullet drop and speed faster and land more accurate and consistent shots.
for scopes like the razor it's shadow and eye relief are heavily dependant on the scope mount and what gun it is on as well, on the SCAR using a razor is just not good because of how far the scope sits forward unlike on something like a Mutant
I think they should add more magnifier to red dot options more to game. don't know if they don't want since it would probably become meta. but I think its stupid that there isn't more of those choices
I'm still appalled by the fact that BSG decided to balance scopes by eye relief and clear/muddy dot. I mean this is abhorrent. Almost none of the single red dots have clear dot, unlike real life.
I think some people choose HAMR because of the visual recoil on the reddot on top is lower than using it alone, plus the scope itself serves as some sort of telescope
You should show the item in question at the same time as youre naming it for visual people. Hard to keep track of which scope youre refering to by name only if you're new
i perfer ACOG over KMZ for snipping on budget. i mostly use Gornostay and the bullet is too slow for any thing further than 170m so x4 is more than enough and the KMZ has too much shadowing and the reticle is just weird
i'd disagree about EOTec HHS-1 scope. the 3x ofc is a bit shaky and not that good indeed, but what i've found out that i was using it as normal EXPS3 scope as the best hollow one, and then sometimes switching to the 3x was quite useful. was very handy for example on interchange while doing quest and killing 40 scavs, as sometimes it's very convenient to have a little bit of magnification. just treat it as good hollow scope last wipe i was using specter a lot, but never actually did this wipe -- somehow i feel that it takes too much of the screen, borders are too thick and cover lots of space i mean, and the visible area is fairly small too. although i like the reticle it has. for zoom on sniper rifles i usually go with schmidt&bender 1x-8x or sometimes 3x-12x.
Tarkov realism will always hurt certain optics, because they're meant to go on machine guns, not rifles. That's why even though they have good zoom and clarity, the reticles and/or housing of the sight is chonky. Throw that on a PKM or RPD and it'll make a lot more sense after 40 rounds.
Hi gigabeef. Your videos are amazing. Would you mind next time putting the thumbnail of the scope you are reviewing on the screen? I dont know most of these scopes by name and it would be helpful to recognize them by their thumbnail or image icon
Love these tutorials but please, for the love of God, where do those magnificent spreadsheets come from ? I bookmarked the armor one that you, so kindly shared on one of your videos, but completely unable to locate any of the others.
I've got nothing interesting to comment in particular, just wanted to let you know that the content has been amazing recently, thank you for making theese videos.
If I find a scope, it would be nice for the game to tell me what gun I can put it on. AND DONT TELL ME TO CLICK COMPATIBLE WITH because everytime I do that there's just a dash.
Why is nobody talking about the description error of the scope magnification, almost every scope in the game has different magnification than the description says.
I still feel like ... the game should be balanced in a way that you DONT want to use full auto with a big af sniper scope on your gun when ADS´ing. It turned the decision from "Do I want a 1x scope for CQC or a long range scope for open areas" into "just always take something that has both" with no real downsite as money is way too easy to get right now. Makes canted sights feel almost useless now (besides the ergo bug)
Do people actually try and full auto with the larger magnification scopes? You talk a lot about how bad the full auto is with the 3x - 4x scopes but honestly any engagement where I need that magnification I personally wouldn't be full auto'ing. Am I doing it wrong? I generally have three distinctly different gun types and scopes that I choose to go with them, bolt-action snipers, semi auto rifles/DMRs, and lastly anything full auto like an SMG/AR. Bolt action snipers its all about being able to quickly and reliably line up shots so something with variable magnification and a good sight picture is all that is needed. Semi auto anything I want to have options for close and medium/long range depending on the map so any of the variable zoom scopes with a 1x option or a medium range scope with a canted red dot are good. For 99% of the maps and engagements I find myself in with these I nearly always like the Monstrum 2x (I'm trying really hard to use other scopes but this just fits so well for any semi auto guns) Full auto guns come in two types really, SMGs that can't really do long range so red dot/holo sights all the way, and assault rifles that can full auto up close or semi auto at range. And I have similar requirements to the semi auto/DMRs in that I want flexibility but it needs to be able to full auto at close range without losing sight picture. This is where I tend to use the HAMR/Bravo4s as my go to
I really wish the game wouldn't naturally zoom everything. It should just be through the optic nothing in your peripheral should change and even within the scope theres always an artificial zoom that shouldn't happen.
You can do this - are you aware of the trick that lets you not zoom the screen? Bit fiddly and depends on your keybinds but i do it with free look and gradual lean. The idea is to get the optic "stuck" on the unzoomed mode
@Gigabeef yeah yeah I'm aware of it, I'm more meaning for it to be by default for everybody. It would tone down some of the really long range shots unless someone had a higher powered zoom. But yeah that trick, but for everybody.
It is baffling to me how badly BSG butchers scope reticles. HAMR, ADO, ACOGs, Specter, Bravo, March Tactical, Kiba Prism (formerly Primary Arms Prism, licensing issue), are just completely wrong. The SB 1-8 is good so they can definitely do things correctly.
I just don't understand why the reticles aren't accurate to real life. The Bravo and HAMR have tiny reticles but in game they take up the whole scope. And the 3.5x ACOG? Absolutely bastardized, I feel bad for it.
There is an issue with the ELCAN that isn't present on other scopes. I thought it would be fixed by now but apparently it hasn't been, or at least I can still see it in this video. It seemingly defaults to some other FOV that is way larger than normal. As a result its 1x mode is actually something like 0.8x, zooming you *out* instead of in. That makes it basically useless because you could instead just use something with fixed magnification and a laser and save money that way.
I don’t mean to hate but this isn’t really an accurate representation of best optics. Again it may explain what scopes may be better on a AR, but say you use an semi or a sniper rifle a lot of the optics you may use on the AR can be excessive and or not sufficient.
The fact that you and others focus on, partially, the full auto performance / visibility makes me want to stay away from this channel. Sure, most of the playerbase uses full auto too often just to get a lucky hit and rarely tap and that's why many of those idiots miss their shots. If you spray with full auto with anything else than hipfire or a 1x scope you're doing something wrong... Also I know that I'm part of the tiny plaerbase that Doesn't use meta builds or follow what youtubers / streamers say. I started playing the game when you didn't have any content creators that posted guides and whatnot so you'd have to come up with your own plans and ideas.
Good Vid always, although one thing i would have liked to have seen is how these scopes stack up at night, as some while great during day raids, can be utterly terrible at night with NVG's due reticle glare.
Pretty much all if not all the magnified optics that don’t have thick areas of illumination like the tac 30 are usable at night now. They changed how much things glare at some point.
I had a quick look into it but as far as I can tell all the scopes darken in night settings. The nvg scope is probably your best bet for clear night shooting tbh
The Elcan's 1x zoom is actually 1.5x, I think. It's actually kind of handy that way, having irons, 1.5x, and 4x. There are also two variants, at two different (but similar) price points that tend to fluctuate.
One aspect you didn't test is how the reticle works with NVGs. There are some optics which are impossible to use with NVGs either because the reticle is too bright or unlit / too dark. One problem with the Elcan is those "backup iron sights".
What is with that optic with the reticle coming off the top? Also, ELCAN DR is my fav optic in games cuz the reticle is amazing. though in this game, that eye relief is a doozy
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Please remember that the eye relief / scope shadow while shooting is also dependent on the position of the scope on the gun, as well as the gun itself. Therefore, the same scopes actually perform different on different guns. There is actually a difference when using a picatinny raiser, for example, but it requires a lot of testing to find the optimal gun/scope/mount type (different dovetail mounts also have different heights and eye reliefs)
Do you have some setups you prefer that you wanna tell us about?
The Bravo is one of my favorite sights this wipe. Far better than the HAMR, and perfect when you don’t wanna spend the money for a Razor or Vudu on your gun build, or if you want less zoom than 6x.
bravo is my choice cause i hate putting reflex on top, im using bravo with canted
4x acog is pretty good too, but it would be better if that shitty rmr was as good as dp or ff
The Sig one, right? Not the Vulcan night scope?
I kinda like the Vulcan, but rn ima try the Sig on your req. thanks.
Just a correction, eye relief and eye box are different things even if they are related in that there would be scope shadow if they’re not right.
Eye relief is the distance of the eye to the ocular. In tarkov, this would cause the scope shadow of the gun at rest, when not firing. It means that the optic is not properly positioned vis-à-vis the eye which causes the shadow.
Eye box is the lateral and vertical movement of the eye from the ocular. This is something like the bobbing of the eye to the eye piece. This would then be relevant in full auto as the scope wouldn’t be in the perfect eye box while in recoil, hence causing scope shadow.
the picture in picture issues come with all scopes that have a backup sight by default, examples are AUG A1 optic, Elcan irons. If you are using a scope that can mount a backup optic, you won't get the lag, like Bravo or HAMR
bravo and hamr still have the fps loss on the zoomed scope
all scopes do, i'm talking about the backup 1x options they come with@@nanee9391
@@nanee9391he's talking about no fps drop using the 1x scope on the hamr and bravo.
You should of added in how good they work with nvgs. As someone who don’t play all the time it’s hard to remember what works the best with them
I can say that the tac30 is unfortunately utterly unusable with NVGs; it used to only be usable with the armasight NVGS before the NVG rework, but now it is worse on all NVGs in addition to being horrible with the armasight. Truly sad as a night enjoyer, and previously a tac30 enjoyer
For the NcStar, its a bug thats been there for about 4yrs that I just recently learned about. Basically what is going on when you use the red dot on top of it, is the game still thinks you are either using the 3x or 9x scope. This has the affect as well on your turning speed which is severely reduced while using the red dot, as if you were scoped in and trying to look around. Hopefully it gets fixed eventually. 4 yrs is quite a long wait as is.
Elcan with its back-up irons does the same, its more of an oversight rather than a bug
Nah the PU is the best scope period
Point blank period
It's honestly such a vibe to use that scope.
I hate it
It's drippy as hell and the shadowing is non-existent - until you lean... I think it is a great scope yeah
The PU is the best because of all the chads you clapped along the way while zoomed into that scope…
Remember one shot mosins to the thorax? Back when I was but a little Timmy, naked in the bushes one shotting Altyn+Slick+Meta M4 man with nothing but a Mosin and and LPS round 🤩😂
hey giga think you could ever do a zoom comparison with some of the more extreme zooming scopes? it seems to me like the scopes with really high levels of zoom don’t actually zoom as much as they say they do. you can see this with the nightforce at 9:04
The zoom for the razor and vudu is also incorrect iirc so seeing a video sharing that would be nice.
I agree..the 16x and the 25x basically look the same.
Maybe.. Not sure how interesting it would be though. I know Tower has done a lot of work on this, he's somewhat of a specialist
There was a reddit post that calculated the true zoom based off pixel count
What's interesting is that they're ALL over the place. A lot of them aren't anywhere close to what they advertise. It's something BSG should address whenever (if) they do the rest of the scope rework they talked about some years ago@@Gigabeef
Valday is also very light compared to other scopes. I specifically use Valday on SVDS because it’s already a really heavy gun but with lightweight components you can min max its weight.
weight doesnt matter in tarkov much
@@1975MANDORyes it does. When you go into a raid already super heavy and then you find a bunch of loot it becomes basically impossible to move without stims, lol.
@@1975MANDOR yea but GigaBeef has a video about it, after that video I started to consider it
I love the Monstrum for a lot of scenarios with short to mid range.
I’ve been saying for ages. It is insane how Vudu and Razor are only expensive because everything else, more or less, is implemented like shit. Also, the horrid recoil that we have right now screws over most optics because you lose the sight picture when that initial kick occurs. Curious to see what happens with the recoil changes.
Informative!
Edit: One suggestion, might be nice if each time you talk about a optic, you show the icon in the inventory like in the stims video. Itd help us newbies that dont know all the names yet!
Fair! The table has them in the order of the video but yes that would have been good to do :)
@@Gigabeef thanks giga! Your guides rock!
I think a pk-as in this game would be a cool edition, it would function like a dovetail "monstrum" sight, and its drippy as hell and could be mounted on an aks74un
A lot of these scopes are much better now with the recoil rework, just to let everyone know who is coming to this video! I am sure Giga has mentioned it already, but here it is anyway! Good luck in your raids gamers!
I really don't like how all LPVO in Escape from Tarkov work like a Elcan Spectre, where there is 1 step up, like a toggle between the lowest 1x and highest 4x-6x-8x mode. In reality, these modern LPVO have true variable zoom, meaning that the zoom level can be adjusted very accurately and incrementally in a smooth fashion by either twisting the scope body in some way or by some other interface. On the 1x-8x Schmitt & Bender, you can see these markings on the top of the scope that would indicate all levels of zoom, which correspond to the 1x all the way up to 8x, but in game it only responds as the Spectre Elcan would with only allowing a fixed 1x or 8x setting. I should be able to scroll my mouse wheel and smoothly zoom in from 1x all the way up to 8x.
love the kmz if youre using the dovetail mount (side ak) you can upgrade the irons and use them as a 1x backup
ACOG is by far my favorite scope in the game. I don't care for the variable zoom scopes at all.
You do you but just know that you're just hurting yourself by not using variable zoom in this game.
@@mikedebakker5820 depends on fire mode and fov, if he is using the triangle classic rainbow six siege acog with high fov, he is likely to get better performance than a simple 1 x or monstrum while also being able to snipe if need be, for full auto id use lazer hipfire or canted sights. On top of that with having a stable constant zoom level will help you get used to bullet drop and speed faster and land more accurate and consistent shots.
@@incediumignis There is no real reason to ever use anything other than a vudu or razer, they're way too strong.
@@mikedebakker5820people like them will never listen don’t bother lol
The small Acog (the x4 one) is a favorite of mine for DMRs or other semi-autos, pair it with a canted or a piggyback red dot and it's great.
I just tried the irons on top the other day, they're hilariously bad. Otherwise awesome mid-range optic.
for scopes like the razor it's shadow and eye relief are heavily dependant on the scope mount and what gun it is on as well, on the SCAR using a razor is just not good because of how far the scope sits forward unlike on something like a Mutant
I think they should add more magnifier to red dot options more to game. don't know if they don't want since it would probably become meta. but I think its stupid that there isn't more of those choices
I'm still appalled by the fact that BSG decided to balance scopes by eye relief and clear/muddy dot. I mean this is abhorrent. Almost none of the single red dots have clear dot, unlike real life.
It‘s 2:40 AM, my pretty girlfriend is sleeping beside me and my ass is watching a tarkov scope comparison…
I think some people choose HAMR because of the visual recoil on the reddot on top is lower than using it alone, plus the scope itself serves as some sort of telescope
It also has the illusion of being cheap beause you buy it in two parts.
You should show the item in question at the same time as youre naming it for visual people. Hard to keep track of which scope youre refering to by name only if you're new
i perfer ACOG over KMZ for snipping on budget. i mostly use Gornostay and the bullet is too slow for any thing further than 170m so x4 is more than enough and the KMZ has too much shadowing and the reticle is just weird
i'd disagree about EOTec HHS-1 scope. the 3x ofc is a bit shaky and not that good indeed, but what i've found out that i was using it as normal EXPS3 scope as the best hollow one, and then sometimes switching to the 3x was quite useful. was very handy for example on interchange while doing quest and killing 40 scavs, as sometimes it's very convenient to have a little bit of magnification. just treat it as good hollow scope
last wipe i was using specter a lot, but never actually did this wipe -- somehow i feel that it takes too much of the screen, borders are too thick and cover lots of space i mean, and the visible area is fairly small too. although i like the reticle it has.
for zoom on sniper rifles i usually go with schmidt&bender 1x-8x or sometimes 3x-12x.
Gigabeef I love your content. You give me the information i wish i knew but will always be too lazy to find out on my own
Tarkov realism will always hurt certain optics, because they're meant to go on machine guns, not rifles. That's why even though they have good zoom and clarity, the reticles and/or housing of the sight is chonky. Throw that on a PKM or RPD and it'll make a lot more sense after 40 rounds.
man is it so weird seeing the old recoil now.
The NPZ P78 is my Shooter Born scope. I use it in combination with a laser.
wheres the pk-aa????
It's a reflex sight, didn't include those here
@@Gigabeef I may be kind of slow
poge@@thesaucelord4999
1P59/69 is the best scope. Love just putting it a VPO and doing budget sniping
Hi gigabeef. Your videos are amazing. Would you mind next time putting the thumbnail of the scope you are reviewing on the screen? I dont know most of these scopes by name and it would be helpful to recognize them by their thumbnail or image icon
Bro! What the hell! Now my bravo scope is gunna go up bc of the thumbnail....bye bye cheap bravo 😢
Man i remember when the tac 30 was cheap as heck and availability at skier level one....
You just have to appreciate all the work these creators put into their videos to make them as high quality as possible, great video!
Love these tutorials but please, for the love of God, where do those magnificent spreadsheets come from ? I bookmarked the armor one that you, so kindly shared on one of your videos, but completely unable to locate any of the others.
I've got nothing interesting to comment in particular, just wanted to let you know that the content has been amazing recently, thank you for making theese videos.
11:38 is this barter still in the game? I don't have it
If I find a scope, it would be nice for the game to tell me what gun I can put it on. AND DONT TELL ME TO CLICK COMPATIBLE WITH because everytime I do that there's just a dash.
I love the hamr even though bravo is clean. Hamr just hits
Why is nobody talking about the description error of the scope magnification, almost every scope in the game has different magnification than the description says.
Great work on the video, I am glad to see a full breakdown with all the new scopes
I still feel like ... the game should be balanced in a way that you DONT want to use full auto with a big af sniper scope on your gun when ADS´ing. It turned the decision from "Do I want a 1x scope for CQC or a long range scope for open areas" into "just always take something that has both" with no real downsite as money is way too easy to get right now. Makes canted sights feel almost useless now (besides the ergo bug)
Thank you Gigabeef. I really enjoy your vids. Many thanks
Do people actually try and full auto with the larger magnification scopes? You talk a lot about how bad the full auto is with the 3x - 4x scopes but honestly any engagement where I need that magnification I personally wouldn't be full auto'ing. Am I doing it wrong?
I generally have three distinctly different gun types and scopes that I choose to go with them, bolt-action snipers, semi auto rifles/DMRs, and lastly anything full auto like an SMG/AR.
Bolt action snipers its all about being able to quickly and reliably line up shots so something with variable magnification and a good sight picture is all that is needed.
Semi auto anything I want to have options for close and medium/long range depending on the map so any of the variable zoom scopes with a 1x option or a medium range scope with a canted red dot are good. For 99% of the maps and engagements I find myself in with these I nearly always like the Monstrum 2x (I'm trying really hard to use other scopes but this just fits so well for any semi auto guns)
Full auto guns come in two types really, SMGs that can't really do long range so red dot/holo sights all the way, and assault rifles that can full auto up close or semi auto at range. And I have similar requirements to the semi auto/DMRs in that I want flexibility but it needs to be able to full auto at close range without losing sight picture. This is where I tend to use the HAMR/Bravo4s as my go to
I like the 3.5x acog the most.
You’re videos have been top tier. No need to watch anyone else imo
any scopes good with nvgs? or do they all just add darkness when on higher zoom
0:32 this is a lie. I put a vudu on my vpo 215 and it still wouldn't full auto
where is Nightforce ATACR 7-35x56 34mm?
I really wish the game wouldn't naturally zoom everything. It should just be through the optic nothing in your peripheral should change and even within the scope theres always an artificial zoom that shouldn't happen.
You can do this - are you aware of the trick that lets you not zoom the screen? Bit fiddly and depends on your keybinds but i do it with free look and gradual lean.
The idea is to get the optic "stuck" on the unzoomed mode
@Gigabeef yeah yeah I'm aware of it, I'm more meaning for it to be by default for everybody. It would tone down some of the really long range shots unless someone had a higher powered zoom.
But yeah that trick, but for everybody.
I like the TAC30 cuz when i use it i don't have frame drop while aiming not like Vude and Razor
nothing is good when you have 70 fps and optic cut it in half
any solution that don't involve selling kidney?
or do i stay on my red dot
As a perpetual timmy. I just use whatever is in my stash, found in raid or from my enemies.
The green russian one the pko i believe is the best and pu is the best long range
Why no thermals?
don't sleep on Acog with the top mount irons for early wipe
i'm going to be referencing this video a lot ty
I miss the old Valaday from like 2 years ago ;(
here waiting for Tarkov to put the option to turn on when i use the scopes.
4x-Pso on ak-102 stay rawdoggin
PSO scope is really good. Full-Auto is honestly a waste of bullets.
1:50 sad that you missed the category: playable with NVG
Good stuff :)
It is baffling to me how badly BSG butchers scope reticles. HAMR, ADO, ACOGs, Specter, Bravo, March Tactical, Kiba Prism (formerly Primary Arms Prism, licensing issue), are just completely wrong.
The SB 1-8 is good so they can definitely do things correctly.
I just don't understand why the reticles aren't accurate to real life. The Bravo and HAMR have tiny reticles but in game they take up the whole scope. And the 3.5x ACOG? Absolutely bastardized, I feel bad for it.
There is an issue with the ELCAN that isn't present on other scopes. I thought it would be fixed by now but apparently it hasn't been, or at least I can still see it in this video.
It seemingly defaults to some other FOV that is way larger than normal. As a result its 1x mode is actually something like 0.8x, zooming you *out* instead of in. That makes it basically useless because you could instead just use something with fixed magnification and a laser and save money that way.
Vuduu and razor sight are not 6x. They are 8x just like the schmidt&bender
Ik it says its 6x but thats a mistake
Valde, Vudu or Acog.
sig tango6t is perfect for me
Iron sights for the win😂
Monstrum 2x and TAC30 are kings
black shadow on scope depending on ergo of the rifle...
top content as usual :D
Basically run vudu or razer if you aren’t poor
I have 6 weapon cases filled with spectres
I don’t mean to hate but this isn’t really an accurate representation of best optics. Again it may explain what scopes may be better on a AR, but say you use an semi or a sniper rifle a lot of the optics you may use on the AR can be excessive and or not sufficient.
And yes I do understand that he explained that he’ll be using the ARs but the title of the video should be different.
Vudu is my optic of choice.
I feel insulted 😢 I've almost exclusively used the VOMZ Pilad and USP for years lol
Where is sig tango
old recoil was big ass
4x with 1x is perfect
What an excellent video. This was INSANELY helpful and useful as a jew player
WHEN ARE U EVER FULL AUTOING WITH A 4X
Possibly the most subjective element in Tarkov.
Tell me you love charts without telling me you love charts >.>
Yep I love charts tbf
Nononono the sigs were already too expensive….
Am i the only one who dosent full auto with scopes?
I have to down vote all these streamer recommendations
Ny scope gonna triple in price t.t i hate you dad
Hammer is gross
The fact that you and others focus on, partially, the full auto performance / visibility makes me want to stay away from this channel. Sure, most of the playerbase uses full auto too often just to get a lucky hit and rarely tap and that's why many of those idiots miss their shots.
If you spray with full auto with anything else than hipfire or a 1x scope you're doing something wrong...
Also I know that I'm part of the tiny plaerbase that Doesn't use meta builds or follow what youtubers / streamers say.
I started playing the game when you didn't have any content creators that posted guides and whatnot so you'd have to come up with your own plans and ideas.
If you use a red dot with a razer scope you're just wrong. I've already killed you with my laser from hip fire before you got the stupid red dot up.
Good Vid always, although one thing i would have liked to have seen is how these scopes stack up at night, as some while great during day raids, can be utterly terrible at night with NVG's due reticle glare.
Pretty much all if not all the magnified optics that don’t have thick areas of illumination like the tac 30 are usable at night now. They changed how much things glare at some point.
Well I'd also like to see which have the darkening bug.
I had a quick look into it but as far as I can tell all the scopes darken in night settings. The nvg scope is probably your best bet for clear night shooting tbh
The Elcan's 1x zoom is actually 1.5x, I think. It's actually kind of handy that way, having irons, 1.5x, and 4x.
There are also two variants, at two different (but similar) price points that tend to fluctuate.
only because of fov decreasing, if you ads with 1x and turn your head you will se same
Do a video on night vision with scopes. Cheers
prokill barter mentioned
I feel like it's not fair to rate the NcSTAR as bad in full auto since it has a built in red dot on top
One aspect you didn't test is how the reticle works with NVGs. There are some optics which are impossible to use with NVGs either because the reticle is too bright or unlit / too dark.
One problem with the Elcan is those "backup iron sights".
What is with that optic with the reticle coming off the top?
Also, ELCAN DR is my fav optic in games cuz the reticle is amazing. though in this game, that eye relief is a doozy