Yup new whirl odor s h i t. This whirl and universe we exist in and life we live and human history and origins is absolutely nothing like we have been taught and led to believe and trust in. Knowledge truly is power. The fact you and I just have to take other people's word for it about the simple fundamentals of who, what and even where we humans are, puts us all at a huge disadvantage. Same goes for having to seek answers out externally from others about who you are, whats happens after deat' nd where you're from
@@spikytoaster if you are not learning AI and becoming an AI Dev. you are not evolving, you are going back to a caveman state.... Ohhh look a shiny thing. evolving As humanity yes but at an individual level nope.
it's videos like this that are reminding me of Bill Joy's article "Why The Future Doesn't Need Us" from 2000, reminding me that it's coming true more and more every day.
Its good. Devs now days are too focused on agendas instead of content. I have more faith in AI creating the next big game over corporations. Until the AI becomes corporate owned of course. . Then we know it's over. .
The all "Humans didn't make it" is wrong, everything was taken from sonething Humans made, even the AI itself. You can't run a Simulation of Doom if Doom was never made by Humans. I don't like the use of AI in Games right now and I can imagine it's only getting worse. With Unreal Engine many Developers already create soulless Terain just to have something to show for. While it should only help to build a better Map that is then made good by a Human Hand, many of them skip the last Part. If they get AI working like a Game Filter I can already see many Companies rereleasing old Titles for new Game Prices, only with a AI-Filter included. Tech gets better but everything else seems to get worse sadly with AI.
I imagine the filters will become open source and freely distributed so maybe they can be ysed by people lije reshade so it doesn't become too much of a problem
i can see people using this as a filter after rendering the scene, to enhance visuals. we can already do DLSS with RTX. when GPU comes with as much as Tensor cores as CUDA at an affordable price.
This is one of those cases where I feel it's all hype, as I see data persistence and coherence being quite challenging. I don't think the goal of replacing conventional games with AI-generated interactive videos is realistic in the short or medium term. I can imagine other, more useful integrations before this approach; it just seems like pure smoke to me. Let’s keep in mind that, in a way, AI researchers sometimes end up not fully understanding how the very systems they created work.
Have you seen AI Minecraft? We ain't nowhere near that level. And frankly, that's a good thing. A.I is constantly reinterpreting and isn't bound by hard parameters. Meaning, it will always be inconsistent. This video, as energetic as it is, explains A.I as more like a 'filter' for what already exists, rather than something that is independently creating new games. And even with 'games' that it makes, your input is entirely subjective to the a.i and will become lost in translation as the A.I continues to reinterprete your actions.
This is the most practical way I've seen anyone put it - thank you for this. You are 100% spot on when you say "...as more like a 'filter' for what already exists, rather than something that is independently creating new games." These models are not generating brand new, never before seen by man or machine material, they are simply regurgitating the infinite combinations of everything they were trained on which all originated from us. That's not to diminish the technical feat of what is happening under the hood, but these aren't the "Computer, invent for me a game!" levels of fantastical thinking machine so many seem to believe.
Did you see the 2D to 3D AI generation that Adobe (I think) just showcased? Drew a little warrior on his side, fighting a dragon, and then used AI to turn him around (in 2D) and the image perfectly lined up with what hadn't even been drawn.
simple answer, the current tech of AI is not capable of making jack shit of a game that could be fun. If AI advances, well, then only then, but they would be a reflection of what we would like as a whole, removing any ounce of creativity, and since that's a crucial part of games, I don't think fun ai generated games would happen in our lifetime, at least for most of us.
@Raulikien AI can also stomp you in a chess game. Because winning a chess is a search problem, a tedious task. And it's been like this for 3 decades. Stop it.
@@proxyjan Is art a tedious task too? Because AI can create pretty amazing songs (suno V4), images are basically indistinguishable right now and video is on the way. Maybe you gotta realise that we are just pattern finding machines and AI is way better at that except in some very specific domains for now.
@@Raulikien AI can and already is better than idiots like you, no questions there. I don't claim AI won't do things as good as humans, I claim they can't do better than all humanity. Of course AI can do stuff just like a 12 year old moron playing with their instruments after 4 years private lessons
@@Raulikien you see, we humans have a range of consciousness and IQ and etc. it's not just humans vs robots. For example, a 12 year old kid is capable of creating beautiful music, probably has already. You are putting humans into one category and saying they can do these, and AI can also do these and even better, on average of course. The problem with that argument is huge. AI is catching up from the bottom of the barrel, on average again. They sometimes achieve interesting breakthrough like discovering cancer, but you don't know and don't pretend to know how much of it is credited only to the AI and how much of useful information gathered in thousands of years by humans was fed to the algorithm. You are a little confused my friend, and you will come up with outrageous statements again if you look too narrowly into the situation. Machine learning mimics human brains and they can do it better because of unlimited memories and processing power of course, but the efficiency deficit is laughable right now. A child can tell a cat apart from a dog by seeing it once. The best machine learning algorithm right now needs thousands of even millions of data to train to be able to do the same thing. Of course after that, they can do it even better than humans. But efficiency is the key. They are running on electricity by nuclear energy while humans eat an apple and can come up with general theory of relativity. Scientists, unlike you, are baffled by complexity of human brains, and are scratching the surface of brain power for current AI technologies. I don't claim we don't get there one day though, but what we see these days are just stories and imaginative fantasies.
What I want to know is why actual game devs aren't using Ai to make games better, like bots are still so lame in all games, how about anti cheat that actually works. The answer must be that AI isn't as amazing as our tech bro's want us to believe.
Yeah, I don't buy it whatsoever. to be honest, I think it's complete bs. Our computers are straight up nowhere near fast enough to generate a game at 60fps+ with minimum input lag 1080p+ that has object permanence, can have any sort of complex systems, and doesn't hallucinate a shit ton. For this to be even slightly possible, we'd need our pcs to be unfathomably faster, which would be impossible in many human life times (if ever) unless we find a completely different way to make computers that makes them unfathomably faster (if anyone says quantum computers then no, quantum computers are complete dogshit, and won't ever be anything other than dogshit). Like with computers, to make this in any way possible, we would need to fundamentally change how ai works, which I guess maybe it'll happen, I just personally doubt it. The best we've got so far is the ai doom. Runs at 20fps at 240p, with a shit ton of input lag. that also haluvinates a shit ton and doesn't have object permanence, not only this but doom is a really simple game, plus it's a game that ALREADY EXISTS. They put into it as much training data as they physically can, all the while making it the easiest game to be made by ai, and it still turned out shit. Again, another fundamental fact of ai, is that it can only generate things it had already seen, and to generate that thing, it needs a LOT of training data. Good luck making an ai game which not only has yhe bare minimum of being 60fps+ with minimal input lag, 1080p+ that has object permanence, doesn't hallucinate a shit ton, has any sort of complex systems that finally isn't just a complete rip-off of anyther game that already exists (by rip-off I mean an exact 1x1 copy).
What's cool about living in a dystopian society? You can't be over the age of 30 or you'd have the ability to reflect on just how phones how changed and ruined our society. You're most def not over 40 'cause then you'd have the ability to reflect on how the internet has changed and ruined our society. You actually fucking promote photorealistic VR as "cool" without being CAPABLE of understanding this will make a generation of physically and mentally weak MORONS with not only sociopathic traits but PSYCHOPATHIC traits.
What this video completely lacks is an understanding of how AI actually works. The actual tech behind AI generation hasn't changed in YEARS. It's all still just based on predictions as to what the next "frame" or "word" or "audio sample" could be, given the previous inputs. Predictions will never be 100% correct. Especially in the context of game engines and game design. Hallucinations are something we will never be able to fully control, but consistency is very important to a game engine. ChatGPT is out for how long now? It's just text based and we still do not get consistent answers. Sure, they hold up over two to three answers, but they fall apart very quickly. Building game demos with AI? Maybe in a few years. But i bet that there will never be an ai that you can give a prompt and them play that very specific game for hours on end. It will morph, change rules, swap visuals every few frames. It will never be fun enough to replace actual games for long. Not to speak of running out of training data at some point if no one programs actual games anymore.
Are we witnessing the death of human creativity, or are we witnessing the birth of creative accessibility? Does it mean anything to create something with no skill?
Good question! I don't think humans can take any credit for the "creativity" of content produced by machine learning. These fake artists didn't do anything. They just typed a sentence and the AI algorithm produced something based of trillions of items it was trained on. The AI is just trying to predict content based on what it has already seen. There is no skill to it whatsoever. Not spending years to understand anatomy, color theory and composition. If anyone can do art on a similar "level", it ceases to be amazing or valuable.
@htpkey I agree the presence of AI generated media isn't good for us because it removes all of the novelty from high quality media, but I also believe we're past the point of no return... Optimistically I think we'll find new ways to find beauty in things, particularly in the demonstration of skills rather than the final product.
iunno just because I put my kid's finger painting on the fridge doesn't mean I prefer it over something you'd find in a museum. Both can be cool in their own way.
@@tycho25 Im not against AI as a whole. I work in software development. I also like to be creative with my drawing and (miniature) painting, it takes up a lot of my hobby time. I think AI can really help artists automate the mundane tasks in the production of art, but unlike many techbros, I don't think AI can replace artists entirely.
you're witnessing a fad that will die out in like 10 years when people realise that we need to fundamentally change how ai works (if that would even be possible) for it to make playable games that don't run at 20fps 240p with at least 1s of input lag, have no object permanence, can't generate any complex systems, can't generate anything that isn't a 1x1 copy of a game that already exists, and lastly, one that doesn't hallucinate a shit ton.
I think it's good - if it's used well. I can imagine someone using an AI like that to inspire the style they want for a game's world. Being able to go... "Make a hooded and robed figure walk through a steampunk city fo rme. Add more neon lighting and make the streets grimy... and put more people in the crowds. Okay... That's good. Record that for me." Then they can go and work with their software to try to re-create that look and feel. It could make development easier and make it easier to overcome writer's block, or inspire new things.
AI isn't necessarily limited to generating picture frames. It can be used to generate 3D models, environments, levels, characters, all in real time, which are then fed to the conventional game engine to be rendered normally by your GPU. A procedural generation enhanced by AI so it doesn't look as repetitive as today's procedually generated games. Another application -- the world, characters, and everything else is handcrafted, but exists in the form of low-poly skeletons in the game engine. The final picture is rendered using AI, "painting" it over the low-poly meshes, using their coordinates as an ancor points. So you get a realistic image, while the underlying world is still crafted by artists like in normal game.
AI generates, and humans direct.. Thats the real democratization of game development to give everyone easy access into game development through AI and learning alongside with AI.
AI lacks soul, not just literally, but you can physically see that it's missing something. I've yet to see ANY AI art that inspires me in the least. It feels uncanny af. Until they can get past that somehow, i'm not worried about AI taking over entertainment.
It can create 10000x faster than us and if 1 of those is better, then it already has created something better than humans. Therefore, it's already hear, we are just having trouble seeing it through all the noise. Give it time... Like 18months...
AI can have it's place in games. Look at what they've done with mods which use generative voice AI. Where characters can respond to anything you say to them. Amazing potential for RPG and single player immersion
You mean it's given us bots that reply in the most nihilistic, depressing, beaten down, soulless way? Try to ask one of them how they're doing or where to find this and this place or idle chit chat. They're response is always something depressing or they turn super paranoid on you. YEAH! What a great contribution we can do WITHOUT!
I love the idea of immersion in a historical representation which didn't exist, but fear such technology will be used by the big games studios to crank out AI generated dross at minimum cost.
i don't see how ai can create games through just video footage alone. unless they teach it how to create game objects and polygons and models and place them correctly in the scene (even if low poly) and use both the ai filter and polygons to make it realistic, that could work.
AI is definitely capable of writing a full code for a game alltough they would have to perfect that first, but real time generating while you play wouldn't make sense and it's not something you want. Imagine every time you turn 180 with your character the world transforms, or you see a house in front of you and as you get closer it's suddenly just a rock.. You want to step into the car in front of you but suddenly it joins with the road haha
It's very cool. And I already know for a fact hand made will be preferred over AI made. That's how it's always been with every piece of tech we're discovered/invented that's changed our society massively. Just as factories produce chairs, carpenters still do as well. It does price a lot of people out of it, but Indie games will always exist, be priced cheaper, and overcome AAA bs. Just as comedians are safe despite AI being capable of comedy, people prefer people over artificial. Always have and always will.
05:42 not really, it cant produce those without having learned on human element stuff. so its not removing the human element, far from it. Its learning and building upon yes, but the equation cannot produce doom, without doom existing and having learned it as a dataset.
personally, I don't find it worrying or scary. people say that it will make artists obsolete, but I don't think it's possible for a machine to reproduce the human element of great art. And even if it can one day, a person still has to make that machine, so wouldn't the machine in and of itself be the art? I look forward to the day they make some breakthrough in quantum computing and we can have the holodeck from star trek, and a game I could make from a prompt would be 10x better than the slop these big developers shovel out every year. What's so scary about that?
AI is simply just a way to reduce game development time, which developers definitely need nowadays. I feel like the industry standard is much, MUCH higher than what the developers are capable to accomplish within the expected time frame. Games take 10s - 100s of millions of dollars to make and they take 5 - 10 years on top of that. That's why many big studios crunch to finish the games on time and sometimes they still have bugs. It's still early for these new AI games, but I think the AI assisted coding, model generation, music, sound, etc... is about to take off soon.
I think it's good that AI can speed up and skip the process of lots of developing, adding much more room to content, imagine a Monster Hunter AI game. The time needed to add 90 monsters could be speed up and have 300 added instead. The downside is that most devs nowadays are indie shit, only cares about making money with these games since the income is endless.
Not sure if it will be better but I'm pretty certain it'll make more games even more generic, boring and bland then they already are. And it's pretty bad already. And has been for quite some time now.
Why would anyone want this thought? Seriously. There really isn't much in terms of reasoning outside of profit. How we visualize/share/create experiences for each other is one of the key elements that separate us from the rest of the creatures drifting through space on this rock. Why would you ever want to eliminate that? Sure, anything generated could invoke something in some but ultimately it's artificial and doesn't connect you to someone else. It is no longer special to anyone but those that generated it. Do we want that sort of lonely interaction with the world. One where we can't discuss TV shows or games because they've been catered to us? idk - defeats the entire purpose imo.
This is literally just style transfer and it's old as fuck as an ML technique. It was impressive in 2012 when CNNs were all the rage but now?
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Doesn't it scare me? Why why would I be scared? Humanity needs to be replaced, its flawed and unsalvagable. We've absolutely peaked as a species, tech improves but we've been spinning our wheels since Babylon, chasing one superstition and myth to the next. Creating AI that's better than us is the only lasting positive thing the human race can possibly accomplish before we destroy ourselves. And if we don't, we'll simply be forgotten entirely. That scares me far more than something like AI and robots, which have been an inevitability since before I was born. The only way AI is scary is if you sleepwalk through most of life believing the fairy tales we invent about our own importance.
@@florianschneider3982 Do you understand how machine learning works? It needs tons of data to learn from, then it produces results based on that data. It is by it's very nature derivative and uncreative, without any vision.
@@htpkey thats just learning in general. humans also need humans to learn how to draw or write a story. once you saw enough diffrent styles youll eventually make a mixture of those stiles you learned and call it your own. the same thing that ai does. your problem is not what or how its doing it, the problem is that its machine is doing it in minutes where people needed years.
Integrating ai with game engines will be the future, devs must then only program the physics and various gameplay aspects. Visuals will be completely generated by AI.
Is not impresive at all . Not even close to what , us humans can do . Ai without humans is like a rock without ground . It will just stand there forevere :)))) . And tbh...they look ugly AF , these generated images games etc .
This comment section and overall general reception to AI is honestly hilarious how many people dont want change and dont want evolution. Like do you all really want to just never have better tech? Like sorry that graphicsa and technology as a whole are getting better? I dont get why yall act like just because AI does a great job generating things that its the end for art and everything else. Has no one realized that AI is meant to be working WITH humans. Anything made purely by AI especially in an art space is going to be bland which is why you as a human can fill in the spots where the AI messed up. Smh...this must've been what it was like when computers came out and everyone was screaming bloody murder...
I have been recently bombarded with videos hating on AI on my TH-cam homepage. Let's just say I wanted to rip my hair off my scalp. My faith in humanity just ain't getting restored. These people show exactly why we, humans, are just bloodthirsty moronic monkeys that have access to almost alien technology (and weapons of mass destruction). AI is fantastic, and yes it will replace many jobs. This is the cost of progress. Saying AI = bad just because it will replace us all is just acting in bad faith. This loathing behavior happens all the time something new and groundbreaking happens I guess. I can easily imagine painters saying that photography wasn't real art because you no longer needed to spent multiple days even years on a single painting anymore, tracing every paint stroke.... a machine did it all for you. Thankfully there were those who embraced the new technology and made photography an art form. And then after that it only got better, picture quality improved, and then we got Cinema, an art form, which lead to the invention of TV, and now we have high quality cameras in our pockets at all time. Anyone on Earth is now able to take footage of reality, and immortalize moments that would otherwise be forgotten in time. Progress is beautiful. The ones who say AI = bad, because "iT's UgLy" are even worse, they literally have 0 braincells. Don't bother with these people, they are small minded and are unable to see beyond their own benefits and their own little bubble. I think the hate has been getting worse lately because AI image generation is essentially better, cheaper, and faster than 99% of artists in the job market. The timing of it is absolutely comedic too as they are all getting fired because the global economy is in recession and all those rounds of layoffs have nothing to do with AI replacing them .... yet. The corporate world has already spoken they don't need as much of em' no more. They can now focus on true talent that will use these incredible AI tools to produce even better art.
BS! and what you're showing is recorded gameplay videos that been then put in Runway gen 3 to transform it.... nothing but wishful thinking but its not realistic, we're not there yet
Wow mind-blowing. Wish The Matrix becomes real! The best solution to future gaming is making graphics cards obsolete. Cloud gaming is not successful because Nvidia is probably keeping it out of business cause otherwise they will go out of business.
AI more like Ai don't want to play a computers vision of a game
Edit: AI change my mind this is sick:)
Scary, cool.... but scary
but cool
The world is changing and its lowkey scary
Yup new whirl odor s h i t.
This whirl and universe we exist in and life we live and human history and origins is absolutely nothing like we have been taught and led to believe and trust in. Knowledge truly is power. The fact you and I just have to take other people's word for it about the simple fundamentals of who, what and even where we humans are, puts us all at a huge disadvantage. Same goes for having to seek answers out externally from others about who you are, whats happens after deat' nd where you're from
How? Do you wanna be a caveman and never evolve?
@@spikytoaster if you are not learning AI and becoming an AI Dev. you are not evolving, you are going back to a caveman state.... Ohhh look a shiny thing. evolving As humanity yes but at an individual level nope.
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it's videos like this that are reminding me of Bill Joy's article "Why The Future Doesn't Need Us" from 2000, reminding me that it's coming true more and more every day.
Its good. Devs now days are too focused on agendas instead of content. I have more faith in AI creating the next big game over corporations. Until the AI becomes corporate owned of course. . Then we know it's over. .
The all "Humans didn't make it" is wrong, everything was taken from sonething Humans made, even the AI itself.
You can't run a Simulation of Doom if Doom was never made by Humans.
I don't like the use of AI in Games right now and I can imagine it's only getting worse. With Unreal Engine many Developers already create soulless Terain just to have something to show for. While it should only help to build a better Map that is then made good by a Human Hand, many of them skip the last Part.
If they get AI working like a Game Filter I can already see many Companies rereleasing old Titles for new Game Prices, only with a AI-Filter included.
Tech gets better but everything else seems to get worse sadly with AI.
Ideally, AI would just let us cut out any sort of financial motivation to creative endeavours i.e. cut out the "middle-man"
True. This video is miss representing AI's capabilities immensely
I imagine the filters will become open source and freely distributed so maybe they can be ysed by people lije reshade so it doesn't become too much of a problem
i can see people using this as a filter after rendering the scene, to enhance visuals. we can already do DLSS with RTX. when GPU comes with as much as Tensor cores as CUDA at an affordable price.
This. Block out a level and put a filter on top of it.
This is one of those cases where I feel it's all hype, as I see data persistence and coherence being quite challenging. I don't think the goal of replacing conventional games with AI-generated interactive videos is realistic in the short or medium term. I can imagine other, more useful integrations before this approach; it just seems like pure smoke to me. Let’s keep in mind that, in a way, AI researchers sometimes end up not fully understanding how the very systems they created work.
this is scary, unreal, yet revolutionary ...
Have you seen AI Minecraft? We ain't nowhere near that level. And frankly, that's a good thing. A.I is constantly reinterpreting and isn't bound by hard parameters. Meaning, it will always be inconsistent. This video, as energetic as it is, explains A.I as more like a 'filter' for what already exists, rather than something that is independently creating new games. And even with 'games' that it makes, your input is entirely subjective to the a.i and will become lost in translation as the A.I continues to reinterprete your actions.
This is the most practical way I've seen anyone put it - thank you for this. You are 100% spot on when you say "...as more like a 'filter' for what already exists, rather than something that is independently creating new games." These models are not generating brand new, never before seen by man or machine material, they are simply regurgitating the infinite combinations of everything they were trained on which all originated from us.
That's not to diminish the technical feat of what is happening under the hood, but these aren't the "Computer, invent for me a game!" levels of fantastical thinking machine so many seem to believe.
Did you see the 2D to 3D AI generation that Adobe (I think) just showcased? Drew a little warrior on his side, fighting a dragon, and then used AI to turn him around (in 2D) and the image perfectly lined up with what hadn't even been drawn.
simple answer, the current tech of AI is not capable of making jack shit of a game that could be fun. If AI advances, well, then only then, but they would be a reflection of what we would like as a whole, removing any ounce of creativity, and since that's a crucial part of games, I don't think fun ai generated games would happen in our lifetime, at least for most of us.
And yet AI is already discovering new proteins. "But it's not creative man! It doesn't have a soul" (luddite doesn't even know how to describe a soul)
@Raulikien AI can also stomp you in a chess game. Because winning a chess is a search problem, a tedious task. And it's been like this for 3 decades. Stop it.
@@proxyjan Is art a tedious task too? Because AI can create pretty amazing songs (suno V4), images are basically indistinguishable right now and video is on the way. Maybe you gotta realise that we are just pattern finding machines and AI is way better at that except in some very specific domains for now.
@@Raulikien AI can and already is better than idiots like you, no questions there. I don't claim AI won't do things as good as humans, I claim they can't do better than all humanity. Of course AI can do stuff just like a 12 year old moron playing with their instruments after 4 years private lessons
@@Raulikien you see, we humans have a range of consciousness and IQ and etc. it's not just humans vs robots. For example, a 12 year old kid is capable of creating beautiful music, probably has already. You are putting humans into one category and saying they can do these, and AI can also do these and even better, on average of course. The problem with that argument is huge. AI is catching up from the bottom of the barrel, on average again. They sometimes achieve interesting breakthrough like discovering cancer, but you don't know and don't pretend to know how much of it is credited only to the AI and how much of useful information gathered in thousands of years by humans was fed to the algorithm. You are a little confused my friend, and you will come up with outrageous statements again if you look too narrowly into the situation. Machine learning mimics human brains and they can do it better because of unlimited memories and processing power of course, but the efficiency deficit is laughable right now. A child can tell a cat apart from a dog by seeing it once. The best machine learning algorithm right now needs thousands of even millions of data to train to be able to do the same thing. Of course after that, they can do it even better than humans. But efficiency is the key. They are running on electricity by nuclear energy while humans eat an apple and can come up with general theory of relativity. Scientists, unlike you, are baffled by complexity of human brains, and are scratching the surface of brain power for current AI technologies. I don't claim we don't get there one day though, but what we see these days are just stories and imaginative fantasies.
Keep AI a tool. Not an agent.
It shall be so
What I want to know is why actual game devs aren't using Ai to make games better, like bots are still so lame in all games, how about anti cheat that actually works. The answer must be that AI isn't as amazing as our tech bro's want us to believe.
Yeah, I don't buy it whatsoever. to be honest, I think it's complete bs. Our computers are straight up nowhere near fast enough to generate a game at 60fps+ with minimum input lag 1080p+ that has object permanence, can have any sort of complex systems, and doesn't hallucinate a shit ton. For this to be even slightly possible, we'd need our pcs to be unfathomably faster, which would be impossible in many human life times (if ever) unless we find a completely different way to make computers that makes them unfathomably faster (if anyone says quantum computers then no, quantum computers are complete dogshit, and won't ever be anything other than dogshit).
Like with computers, to make this in any way possible, we would need to fundamentally change how ai works, which I guess maybe it'll happen, I just personally doubt it. The best we've got so far is the ai doom. Runs at 20fps at 240p, with a shit ton of input lag. that also haluvinates a shit ton and doesn't have object permanence, not only this but doom is a really simple game, plus it's a game that ALREADY EXISTS. They put into it as much training data as they physically can, all the while making it the easiest game to be made by ai, and it still turned out shit.
Again, another fundamental fact of ai, is that it can only generate things it had already seen, and to generate that thing, it needs a LOT of training data. Good luck making an ai game which not only has yhe bare minimum of being 60fps+ with minimal input lag, 1080p+ that has object permanence, doesn't hallucinate a shit ton, has any sort of complex systems that finally isn't just a complete rip-off of anyther game that already exists (by rip-off I mean an exact 1x1 copy).
This feels a bit more like a giant ad...
most probably paid
If this type of tech gets integrated into VR applications it’s gonna be so cool but also very scary.
What's cool about living in a dystopian society?
You can't be over the age of 30 or you'd have the ability to reflect on just how phones how changed and ruined our society.
You're most def not over 40 'cause then you'd have the ability to reflect on how the internet has changed and ruined our society.
You actually fucking promote photorealistic VR as "cool" without being CAPABLE of understanding this will make a generation of physically and mentally weak MORONS with not only sociopathic traits but PSYCHOPATHIC traits.
What this video completely lacks is an understanding of how AI actually works. The actual tech behind AI generation hasn't changed in YEARS. It's all still just based on predictions as to what the next "frame" or "word" or "audio sample" could be, given the previous inputs.
Predictions will never be 100% correct. Especially in the context of game engines and game design. Hallucinations are something we will never be able to fully control, but consistency is very important to a game engine. ChatGPT is out for how long now? It's just text based and we still do not get consistent answers. Sure, they hold up over two to three answers, but they fall apart very quickly.
Building game demos with AI? Maybe in a few years. But i bet that there will never be an ai that you can give a prompt and them play that very specific game for hours on end. It will morph, change rules, swap visuals every few frames. It will never be fun enough to replace actual games for long. Not to speak of running out of training data at some point if no one programs actual games anymore.
9:32 music Used: Moog city 2 by C418 from Minecraft
Does anyone else get nauseous watching these AI videos?
WHATTT?!?!! AI IS READY THIS ADVANCED? last week we just saw ai minecraft (it's minecraft ver. dementia) but now we got this?!!?! WHATT?!
Are we witnessing the death of human creativity, or are we witnessing the birth of creative accessibility? Does it mean anything to create something with no skill?
Good question! I don't think humans can take any credit for the "creativity" of content produced by machine learning.
These fake artists didn't do anything. They just typed a sentence and the AI algorithm produced something based of trillions of items it was trained on. The AI is just trying to predict content based on what it has already seen.
There is no skill to it whatsoever. Not spending years to understand anatomy, color theory and composition. If anyone can do art on a similar "level", it ceases to be amazing or valuable.
@htpkey I agree the presence of AI generated media isn't good for us because it removes all of the novelty from high quality media, but I also believe we're past the point of no return... Optimistically I think we'll find new ways to find beauty in things, particularly in the demonstration of skills rather than the final product.
iunno just because I put my kid's finger painting on the fridge doesn't mean I prefer it over something you'd find in a museum. Both can be cool in their own way.
@@tycho25 Im not against AI as a whole. I work in software development. I also like to be creative with my drawing and (miniature) painting, it takes up a lot of my hobby time.
I think AI can really help artists automate the mundane tasks in the production of art, but unlike many techbros, I don't think AI can replace artists entirely.
you're witnessing a fad that will die out in like 10 years when people realise that we need to fundamentally change how ai works (if that would even be possible) for it to make playable games that don't run at 20fps 240p with at least 1s of input lag, have no object permanence, can't generate any complex systems, can't generate anything that isn't a 1x1 copy of a game that already exists, and lastly, one that doesn't hallucinate a shit ton.
Finally a new Video from the cutting edge, i wish it was about physics Simulations though
I think it's good - if it's used well. I can imagine someone using an AI like that to inspire the style they want for a game's world. Being able to go... "Make a hooded and robed figure walk through a steampunk city fo rme. Add more neon lighting and make the streets grimy... and put more people in the crowds. Okay... That's good. Record that for me." Then they can go and work with their software to try to re-create that look and feel. It could make development easier and make it easier to overcome writer's block, or inspire new things.
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AI isn't necessarily limited to generating picture frames. It can be used to generate 3D models, environments, levels, characters, all in real time, which are then fed to the conventional game engine to be rendered normally by your GPU. A procedural generation enhanced by AI so it doesn't look as repetitive as today's procedually generated games.
Another application -- the world, characters, and everything else is handcrafted, but exists in the form of low-poly skeletons in the game engine. The final picture is rendered using AI, "painting" it over the low-poly meshes, using their coordinates as an ancor points. So you get a realistic image, while the underlying world is still crafted by artists like in normal game.
"Gently Whispers: humans wearn't here" my feelings articulated
AI generates, and humans direct..
Thats the real democratization of game development to give everyone easy access into game development through AI and learning alongside with AI.
I think it'll just enable anyone to make a handcrafted masterpiece game. Basically ever man a game studio director.
AI lacks soul, not just literally, but you can physically see that it's missing something. I've yet to see ANY AI art that inspires me in the least. It feels uncanny af. Until they can get past that somehow, i'm not worried about AI taking over entertainment.
AI is something lazy people use, a huge copy paste machine where very very few are willing to go further. People get satisfied with very little...
Imagine an ai overhaul of cooking mamma. With physics!!!!
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It can create 10000x faster than us and if 1 of those is better, then it already has created something better than humans. Therefore, it's already hear, we are just having trouble seeing it through all the noise. Give it time... Like 18months...
AI can have it's place in games. Look at what they've done with mods which use generative voice AI. Where characters can respond to anything you say to them. Amazing potential for RPG and single player immersion
You mean it's given us bots that reply in the most nihilistic, depressing, beaten down, soulless way?
Try to ask one of them how they're doing or where to find this and this place or idle chit chat.
They're response is always something depressing or they turn super paranoid on you.
YEAH! What a great contribution we can do WITHOUT!
I love the idea of immersion in a historical representation which didn't exist, but fear such technology will be used by the big games studios to crank out AI generated dross at minimum cost.
i don't see how ai can create games through just video footage alone.
unless they teach it how to create game objects and polygons and models and place them correctly in the scene (even if low poly) and use both the ai filter and polygons to make it realistic, that could work.
AI is definitely capable of writing a full code for a game alltough they would have to perfect that first, but real time generating while you play wouldn't make sense and it's not something you want. Imagine every time you turn 180 with your character the world transforms, or you see a house in front of you and as you get closer it's suddenly just a rock.. You want to step into the car in front of you but suddenly it joins with the road haha
Art is always been about what people value, people won't value such games the same way they don't value well made games, AI will always be a assistant
It's very cool. And I already know for a fact hand made will be preferred over AI made. That's how it's always been with every piece of tech we're discovered/invented that's changed our society massively.
Just as factories produce chairs, carpenters still do as well. It does price a lot of people out of it, but Indie games will always exist, be priced cheaper, and overcome AAA bs. Just as comedians are safe despite AI being capable of comedy, people prefer people over artificial. Always have and always will.
I love my hand made car
05:42 not really, it cant produce those without having learned on human element stuff. so its not removing the human element, far from it. Its learning and building upon yes, but the equation cannot produce doom, without doom existing and having learned it as a dataset.
personally, I don't find it worrying or scary. people say that it will make artists obsolete, but I don't think it's possible for a machine to reproduce the human element of great art. And even if it can one day, a person still has to make that machine, so wouldn't the machine in and of itself be the art? I look forward to the day they make some breakthrough in quantum computing and we can have the holodeck from star trek, and a game I could make from a prompt would be 10x better than the slop these big developers shovel out every year. What's so scary about that?
AI is simply just a way to reduce game development time, which developers definitely need nowadays. I feel like the industry standard is much, MUCH higher than what the developers are capable to accomplish within the expected time frame. Games take 10s - 100s of millions of dollars to make and they take 5 - 10 years on top of that. That's why many big studios crunch to finish the games on time and sometimes they still have bugs.
It's still early for these new AI games, but I think the AI assisted coding, model generation, music, sound, etc... is about to take off soon.
8:37 ah yes my favourite game "DIOTY DAAD"
There was a lot of AI generated videos based on Project Zomboid damn
what is that beautiful song/voice in the beginning? if anyone knows please let me know.
props for using slowya roll's music !
I think it's good that AI can speed up and skip the process of lots of developing, adding much more room to content, imagine a Monster Hunter AI game. The time needed to add 90 monsters could be speed up and have 300 added instead.
The downside is that most devs nowadays are indie shit, only cares about making money with these games since the income is endless.
This is what i was waitin for .....can finally make my own game
What an exciting time to be alive
Cool but i think Upscaling textures with ai is in my opinon better.
Why companies fucking obsessed to make game realism? We play game to escape the real world and enjoy imaginative World
Why the hell would that scare me? That's the entire point of AI
Not sure if it will be better but I'm pretty certain it'll make more games even more generic, boring and bland then they already are.
And it's pretty bad already.
And has been for quite some time now.
Why would anyone want this thought? Seriously. There really isn't much in terms of reasoning outside of profit. How we visualize/share/create experiences for each other is one of the key elements that separate us from the rest of the creatures drifting through space on this rock. Why would you ever want to eliminate that? Sure, anything generated could invoke something in some but ultimately it's artificial and doesn't connect you to someone else. It is no longer special to anyone but those that generated it. Do we want that sort of lonely interaction with the world. One where we can't discuss TV shows or games because they've been catered to us? idk - defeats the entire purpose imo.
AI is a mimic.
Can't really worry when most of them suck
Maybe james cameron's dream is warning from the future,and he made it into a movie
Good, Ai will revolutionise the entire planet.
This is literally just style transfer and it's old as fuck as an ML technique. It was impressive in 2012 when CNNs were all the rage but now?
Doesn't it scare me? Why why would I be scared? Humanity needs to be replaced, its flawed and unsalvagable. We've absolutely peaked as a species, tech improves but we've been spinning our wheels since Babylon, chasing one superstition and myth to the next.
Creating AI that's better than us is the only lasting positive thing the human race can possibly accomplish before we destroy ourselves. And if we don't, we'll simply be forgotten entirely. That scares me far more than something like AI and robots, which have been an inevitability since before I was born.
The only way AI is scary is if you sleepwalk through most of life believing the fairy tales we invent about our own importance.
4:01 Backrooms 💀
Good can’t live with out bad it’s been around forever one can’t live with out the other until lone or the other leave don’t see that happening
Beautiful.
This is so bad.
Why?
@@florianschneider3982 it only copies things already made/ it cant be original or creative. its the definition of slop
@@MrEnterthehole How did you come up with that idea that's obviously wrong.
@@florianschneider3982 Do you understand how machine learning works? It needs tons of data to learn from, then it produces results based on that data.
It is by it's very nature derivative and uncreative, without any vision.
@@htpkey thats just learning in general.
humans also need humans to learn how to draw or write a story.
once you saw enough diffrent styles youll eventually make a mixture of those stiles you learned and call it your own.
the same thing that ai does.
your problem is not what or how its doing it, the problem is that its machine is doing it in minutes where people needed years.
these would maybe be cool for texture packs but right now these still look terrible
I think its bad. Soulless.
Integrating ai with game engines will be the future, devs must then only program the physics and various gameplay aspects. Visuals will be completely generated by AI.
its souless i no no wanna
Nah, it will get even better.
If the game is good I don’t care 🤷🏽♂️
Is not impresive at all . Not even close to what , us humans can do . Ai without humans is like a rock without ground . It will just stand there forevere :)))) . And tbh...they look ugly AF , these generated images games etc .
This comment section and overall general reception to AI is honestly hilarious how many people dont want change and dont want evolution. Like do you all really want to just never have better tech? Like sorry that graphicsa and technology as a whole are getting better?
I dont get why yall act like just because AI does a great job generating things that its the end for art and everything else. Has no one realized that AI is meant to be working WITH humans. Anything made purely by AI especially in an art space is going to be bland which is why you as a human can fill in the spots where the AI messed up.
Smh...this must've been what it was like when computers came out and everyone was screaming bloody murder...
I have been recently bombarded with videos hating on AI on my TH-cam homepage. Let's just say I wanted to rip my hair off my scalp. My faith in humanity just ain't getting restored. These people show exactly why we, humans, are just bloodthirsty moronic monkeys that have access to almost alien technology (and weapons of mass destruction).
AI is fantastic, and yes it will replace many jobs. This is the cost of progress. Saying AI = bad just because it will replace us all is just acting in bad faith. This loathing behavior happens all the time something new and groundbreaking happens I guess. I can easily imagine painters saying that photography wasn't real art because you no longer needed to spent multiple days even years on a single painting anymore, tracing every paint stroke.... a machine did it all for you.
Thankfully there were those who embraced the new technology and made photography an art form. And then after that it only got better, picture quality improved, and then we got Cinema, an art form, which lead to the invention of TV, and now we have high quality cameras in our pockets at all time. Anyone on Earth is now able to take footage of reality, and immortalize moments that would otherwise be forgotten in time. Progress is beautiful.
The ones who say AI = bad, because "iT's UgLy" are even worse, they literally have 0 braincells.
Don't bother with these people, they are small minded and are unable to see beyond their own benefits and their own little bubble.
I think the hate has been getting worse lately because AI image generation is essentially better, cheaper, and faster than 99% of artists in the job market. The timing of it is absolutely comedic too as they are all getting fired because the global economy is in recession and all those rounds of layoffs have nothing to do with AI replacing them .... yet. The corporate world has already spoken they don't need as much of em' no more. They can now focus on true talent that will use these incredible AI tools to produce even better art.
Wow
would it be better then concord?
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Keeps saying "reimagined" while showing generated lets play videos essentially 😂😂
BS! and what you're showing is recorded gameplay videos that been then put in Runway gen 3 to transform it.... nothing but wishful thinking but its not realistic, we're not there yet
Please rename the video. A channel called "Cutting Edge" shouldn't refer to new technology as "worrying". Just look at history, change is a constant.
right? the amount of fear and anger I see people have in the comments towards AI is depressing. Like cavemen getting upset about agriculture
@@lazercat7725 Unga unga tech bad because someone else told me
Wow mind-blowing. Wish The Matrix becomes real! The best solution to future gaming is making graphics cards obsolete. Cloud gaming is not successful because Nvidia is probably keeping it out of business cause otherwise they will go out of business.