DOM'S CHARGER FROM TF & TF
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2020
- In this episode, we talk about Dom's Charger from the first movie. There were five Chargers total (if you count the MicRig/Process/Buck car).
The story is confusing because at least one car was a 1969, and the rest were 1970 Dodge Chargers. These cars have changed hands a few times over the years and some have been restored.
This video will explain what we can confirm about how they were used and where they are as of early 2020. - บันเทิง
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Everybody gangsta until you see black charger doing wheelies and burnouts at the same time
NANI??
Car Jesus
It looked dope af as a kid
I don't care if it was fake or not that wheelie still gives me chills the same way it did the first time I seen this movie!
Same here man
Every time I watch it, I feel like I'm watching it for the first time..and I'm being like dam it's still awesome
What gets me is the initial pull away right after he lands the wheelie. The reflection in the Charger's quarter panel of Brian's Supra disappearing is just a killer shot.
@@BiagioBaller
It illustrates just how beastly the car is compared to the Supra
@Methods I just get cringed from it. Screams too much fake with the way it akwardly jerks up, bounces a few times on a set height and after the tires spinning some time it falls down. Not sure if they couldn't just make a stunt car with lightweight engine and a ton of weight in the back to make a real wheelies.
Alex Vaughn my fave shot
Fun fact: The charger that was used in the crash scene would reappear in Herbie Fully Loaded in a junkyard scene.
Source?
@@Roxanne3v www.imcdb.org/vehicle_19420-Dodge-Charger-1970.html
Looks pretty similar to the picture at 4:21
Cars don't fly, dom!
@@vontavius01 thanks man I didn’t have to bother searching for it on TH-cam or Google.
I held the wheelie scene against my father for 20 years. I asked how a car does that he said “hydrolics of course” I though he was wrong for 20 years.. until now. Sorry dad
Well, there are cars that can kinda do that (dodge demon for instance) but it's a movie after all
20Landyn Zimney ha four months later just read this, nice.
GIORGIO sanna lots of torque boys can pick the front wheels up. Ty man
Look up av boyz mustang it wheelies on the street against a Porsche
We finally the specs of the borrowed engine so now some brave soul can build a canonical replica of the Charger. Hooray!
It's been known for ages, in his book and in another video.
Not a bad way to spend $10,000...
Good to hear that even the crashed Charger had a happy ending and went to a satisfied owner
It was visible in Herbie: Fully Loaded (2005)
Also to note in that pipe ramp flip scene, the Supra has a full roll cage in it - still visible across the gap for the targa top - it's the only scene I remember seeing it in, and the fact it's there really drummed home that the Charger flip was genuinely done - someone actually sat in that Supra and had a Charger spiral over the top of them. Insane.
Tim Edmunds back when they did practical stunts. Now it’s mostly CGI.
The thumbs down must be from Johnny Tran.
Hahaha sure, let's see if kenny linder makes his appearance too
Diego Offspring looks like he has
Two thumbs down now, he must have got one of his buddies to do it.
come to my video disrespect my channel
and is cousin
I remember the first time I saw the Stunt One car in person at universal Hollywood. For a 14 year old kid at the time it was kind of a spiritual moment
i know this feeling so well. It's that fantasy meets reality kind of energy. reminds me of the first time smoking weed at 14
"I’ve never driven her.."
"Why not?"
"It scares the shit of me..."
3:33 He seems scared
YO SOZ☑️I feel like IM THE ONE THATS EVERYWHERE Becuz I always see you👀
I never understood the debate about this race. I always thought the Charger was obviously so much faster than the Supra, even Hollywood writers had to come up with a reason the Supra was keeping up... so they had the Charger throw a rod.
Because 2jz Fanboy's cry Everytime they are proven wrong there's one right now re-watching this video just to make sure they heard him correctly the Supra will lose lol 😅
@@dragoneye6642 I read somewhere that Dom actually won that race. Probably either Wiki or Fandom.
This is still my all time favorite car and current life goal, after my daughter... Thanks for the breakdown Craig, you the man.
0:38 paul went "yep i need one of these"
It's amazing how attached to these guys a lot of us became, knowing him only from his movies, i actually had to take a quiet moment to myself when i heard Paul Walker passed, i do that with people i know, but he is the only movie star i've ever done that for, he was a special person. These movies were special.
4:48 the film had the sound reversed. Always bugged me. Butterflies close and RPMs go up. Then butterflies open as the RPMs come down. Plus they open all the way as the RPMs we hear denote only a partial throttle crack type rev up.
Floordford do you mean in the film they close and rpm goes up?
@@johnm3907 For the rippems to go up, the butterflies have to open to let in more air/fuel mixture. Closing the butterflies will decrease the air/fuel mixture causing the engine to drop in rippems. The movie has the sequence wrong.
@Leon Jones Yeah, In simple terms, a throttle body is a butterfly valve placed in between your car’s air filter and intake manifold. Its sole purpose is to regulate the amount of air pushed into the engine, based off of driver input through the gas pedal. That said, when the accelerator is pushed, the throttle bodies (butterflies) open, allowing more and more air to be let into the engine. From there, the engine then adds a proper amount of fuel to achieve a correct air/fuel ratio. I apologize if my original comment was a tad misleading (it is a bit different than the butterflies in a carb), but the effect is still the same, open valve means more air.
@Leon Jones What's your point? Haha they're called butterfly valves too.
@Leon Jones No, your point was just stupid.
I'm a Supra owning JDM guy and even I love that Charger. Wish there was more of it in the movie. Oh, and we are definitely of the same era. I haven't heard the term "stiffy" in years. Lol. Nice.
any pics of the supra?
@@rubel247 Ha, you trying to call him out?...
@@CoDisafishy no just asking because I like to see how people mod them (but also yes i kind of am trying to call him out)
I also love how the Charger and presumably the engine were built back in the day, by Dom’s father and also presumably with parts from that era that wouldn’t be easy to replace. You’d think the car might have a little more sentimental value than to Dom than he seems to display for it when he’s clearly hurt the engine and grabs another gear. I know he wrecks the shit out of it later also but seriously, it just doesn’t make sense. He’s kept this car built by him and his now dead father, in nearly immaculate condition, hidden under a tarp for years and years, managing to keep it in such good condition while he races around Cali in much slower import cars but in a few moments of less than stellar judgement he throws it all away? It doesn’t add up to me, never did.
As far as who won the race, I always assume they aren’t racing straight 1/8th or 1/4 mile runs when they “race”. I’m not gonna pretend to know more than I do but I’d think the Supra might’ve been able to take the Charger on the top end if they raced for say a 1/2 mile or more. I don’t think the Charger would have had the gearing to beat the Supra in a top end, top speed kind of race, certainly it would’ve won a 1/8 or 1/4 mile race but I think it is likely that had Dom really been pushing the Charger with its super low gearing that it would eventually over rev and toss a rod or spin a main bearing just because most big inch V8’s like that can’t handle the super high RPM’s that give you top end.
To bring it back to my world, a built Harley V-Twin engine will most assuredly have the torque to beat a hopped up 4 cylinder Japanese sport bike off the line but the sport bike will always be faster too speed wise. The HD will run out of RPM around 6000 while that little 4 cylinder can wrap as high as 13k RPM, even with 6 speeds in both applications the ability to keep turning the engine faster is gonna give the Jap bike the edge on top end.
Granted there’s more to it but despite the tires I’ve always found that race scene somewhat believable. Even though Dom sets it up as a 1/4 mile race in the film I’ve just chocked it up to another technical error that made the movie more fun. I think it’s entirely possible the writers didn’t have the technical know how to understand how unrealistic this was, I would imagine they had someone telling them the Supra would win in a long distance run but since drag races are traditionally a 1/4 mile the writers probably combined the conflicting information and came up with the scene we saw. If you’ve watched any of Craig’s videos you know the producers and writers weren’t always after technical accuracy.
I never knew that the train was fake all this time! Wow! Makes sense tho since it would've been wayyy too dangerous to try
I love and appreciate this series of videos you've done for us, thanks Craig Lieberman!
Your videos to me are like candies to a child. They make me feel so good!! Thanks Craig!! ✌️🏻
Craig, I'm LOVING these videos! The original F&F movies had such a huge impact on my life and its awesome getting a behind the scenes look from your perspective. Please keep em coming!
🚨These videos have a lot of long awaited information. Thanks for the details and definitely keep it coming.🔥
Thank you again for continuing to make great videos, I’m going through a really dark patch in my life right now and I look forward to these more then you know!
Finally, the video I have been waiting for! I love these stories from Craig, he is terrific at telling them.
900 horses of Detroit Muscle!
The Hero car that’s now owned by a guy in Italy (who actually drag races with it) has a supercharged 528 cubic inch all aluminum Mopar Hemi that produces 950 HP.
@@codyerickson3550 link?
"Jesse has just been shot". But he didn't say he was dead. 😱 😱 😱
Daniel Viglietti with the amount of bullets that went into him, it is highly unlikely that he lived. Plus a majority of them hit his chest, he’s dead.
Been 10 movies since he was killed off. I don't think he's making a returm
Rhys Hopson Remember that this is Hollywood, they’ll bring back Han if they want
@@ggj1987 i... Wouldnt be entirely opposed to han coming back lol, he was one of my fav characters.
@@_Zekken THEY BROUGHT HAN BACK :D
thanks for making the first two films so iconic with the cars you chosen or tried to get in the films. the first two films mean so much to me, cause the memories I get around those two films were great and it brings back memories about friends and I going to car meets and all going to see the films at theaters. thanks ..eric from fl
I just want to say thanks for making these video's! I still remember the hype from the first movie. Before F&F, sport compacts didn't get much recognition.
Always great to hear from you Craig 🤙
I got my son the Fast and the Furious movie model Dodge Charger today for Christmas...he loves it and the cars back story is an extra bonus. Thanks for video!
Just to point out, and i'm speaking from experience here, if he actually threw a rod like that, he still could have downshifted and stepped on it, he would have had about ten seconds before the motor either froze or violently detonated, so he still would have won if it was an actual quarter mile.
Yearite
No
@@getchasome6230 I'm speaking from the experience of putting a rod through the block of a '68 Skylark GS400 at 110MPH, yes, he would have had 5 to 10 seconds.
@@xerodelacroix5552 As someone who's an ase certified master mechanic, and as someone who's blown up multiple motors over years of racing, you're wrong. It might've happened once, but that would be the exception. Most cars when they lose a rod through the block they lose compression on that cylinder(s) and it's over instantly. He wouldn't have won
@@getchasome6230 Apparently you've never seen what rally cars go through. You will see 4AGE's with pieces of the block straight up missing and cars running with no timing chains.
I appreciate that "Spies Like Us" reference, a movie I used to watch with my dad and this reminded me of him
I think the first fast and furious was the best thank you for helping make such a great childhood movie , thanks for taking the time to give us the story’s of them it makes it that much more awesome
These videos are all great thank you!
This the one I been waiting for. I love how the Challenger now looks how the Charger used to look in the 70s
The new Challenger looks like an old Challenger or Cuda not a Charger. The Charger was a much larger car. But the new Charger is a disgrace to the name. Don't get me wrong they are cool cars I just think they are way off calling it a Charger. Don't get me started about the Dart...
4ceof5pades they should of called the current chargers Polaras, as they were basically chargers with slightly different bodywork and available with 4-doors.
The reason they made the Charger 4-doors is so it doesn’t take away sales from the 2 door challenger. The 99 concept charger also had 4 doors but did a far better job at making them look good and blending the rear doors into the body so at first glance you wouldn’t know it had 4 doors.
The new dart (now dead thanks to the crossover craze going on) was originally going to be called the Neon, but it was changed at the last minute to dart to keep more in line with dodge reusing names from the muscle car era. They are supposed to come out with a next gen dart but renamed neon (like it should been called for day one) but I believe those plans have been shelved in favor of the more popular crossovers.
I KNEW THIS VIDEO WAS GONNA COME! Thanx man!
Awesome video series. Thank you for your contribution to the Fast franchise.
Another great video Craig thanks
Keep 'em coming. Love these vids!
Very informative indeed, never thought about some of the items mentioned, especially the fake supercharger! Thanks for sharing
Craig, I love your videos! I actually enjoy them more than the films. I was at the Mecum Auction here in Indianapolis where the stunt 2 car was sold. The owner of the car was really nice to my family and I and even let me sit in the car and fire it up! He gave us some insight on the car but the thing that stood out for me was the double bar setup on the hoop of the roll cage that was on that particular car for the crash. If I remember right that car seemed to do huge money for a smashed up Charger! Pretty cool day!
When i first saw ff (thanks to my parents) When I was 3 or 4 in 05' once I saw the charger for the first time I knew it was special and when I saw the near end of the movie I've always knew and dreamed of having a charger. Still do I hope one day I find a b-body charger. Thank you Craig for uploading this it brought back memories of me and my parents seeing the movie on a vhs when I was little. And thank you again Mr.Liberman for being apart of ff and giving me a passion and love for cars.
Thank you for giving us American gearheads due respect when explaining this car, Mr Lieberman!
I remember seeing the first released promo vid for this movie, and saw the forward wheelie bars before they added the digital smoke!! (That, and knowing what they did in the vid was completely unrealistic, but still got my juices flowing!)
I always watch these when I smoke
Bay Area Coalition good idea! 😃
Lol same here...
These videos always pop up when I'm smoking.
okay cancer
ThyInfamousAssassin I don’t smoke tobacco 😉 Don’t panick, it organic
Thank you for another great video!
Fast & Furious 4 Bonus features has a lot of specs about this car and several others including what they used to build them. Auto Metal Direct supplied a lot of the body components for Dom's 1970 Charger and they used a 350 SBC in some of them mainly because the Hemi is an expensive engine and only a couple of them were really super charged. One of those cars is in Gatlinberg, TN at Star's Garage where they have a ton of movie cars.
My dreams got crushed by watching this video. Your a Legend
I love these behind the scenes story, and I wish I had some of these cars.
I remember that line from Spies Like Us. Great video, thanks for the memories.🤓
Amazing work! Keep it up, I really enjoy your channel.
Thanks Craig for share all of this
Another great vid Craig! Thanks. Just ordered your book, cant wait to reed it!!
Hey craig, I can tell you that a local scrap yard I worked at was frequently contacted by universal to crush some of the movie cars one of which was a charger, I remember looking under the hood and from what I remember it one of the chargers looked like it had 383 in it along with the fake blower
I would've kept it lol
The fake blower went on to be put on the ghost rider 69 charger
Loving the raw footage keen to see what's uploaded next
dont you ever stop making these fast and furious vids nostalgia for days💯
Saw your video got reposted on speed society and is starting to go viral! I hope tour channel gets the exposure it deserves!
The original dodge charger Now is in Torino Italy, and few years ago this car did a real race
another great video as always!
The pic you had for the Belvedere was a Coronet and the pic for the Coronet was a GTX. And you forgot to list the Roadrunner too as a B-Body. Yes the GTX and Satellite are technically a Roadrunner but they're 3 separate models for a reason...
was lots more B bods..Fury was one in early 60's..the Dart was a B bod prior to the A bod years, post tail fin cars..and was a B bod Fury again in the 70's alongside Fury C bodies, lol..
Chrysler Cordoba, Dodge Magnum of the late 70's..I'm sure I am leaving a few out.
Did he mensh Super Bee?
Dodge 330 and Dodge 440 (model designations) early 60's..Polara in that same era prior to it becoming a full size C body.
All the 2 door Plymouth B bodies are Belvederes. They just changed the trim and drivetrains.
I really love and appreciate that you’re doing these videos! I do miss F&F being a lot more about the cars.
Back when the original F&F came out, the common question was...
“What’s the same between a 400hp Supra and a 1000hp Supra?”
“The 12 second time slip”
The reason being was that Supras back then couldn’t hook from a dig. Even a 500hp Charger on slicks would take them pretty easily. Times have changed though.
Times change, but old cars don't. Stock for stock, it's a factory built car with no regulations against a slow 90s economy car with all the regulations
Captain FALKEN
Nothing in my comment mentioned stock cars. There were many ways to get a Charger to hook 20 years ago; everything from slapper bars and drag shocks to 4 links... things that people didn’t do to or weren’t available for Supras at the time.
A 400hp Supra could still put the power down decently, so it’d run a bit quicker than stock; like a 12 sec 1/4. A 1000hp couldn’t put the power down back then, so it’d spin like mad the first half, and back half like a freight train; run like 12 sec with a 140mph trap speed.
I always thought the joke was what’s the difference between a 400 hp Supra and a 1000 hp Supra? Two tenths of a second
I’m just so glad that Dom’s Charger didn’t just explode into a fireball when it hit the truck - like any car crash in any Hollywood movie
That earns a bit of respect
The 2001 F&F S2000/Charger and 89 Batmobile gotta be my favourite cars ever! Another dope video!
Wesley Joel Clarenbach the 89 batmobile was built off a Olds Cutlass frame.
@@CamaroAmx I think I also heard something about a chevy impala frame. Not too sure though
i love these videos so much
Craig we are so lucky to have you share your perspective from behind the scenes to our most beloved franchise. Keep up the great work! Thanks
Arguably the fastest cars in the film, got a ten minute video.
Awesome work as always though
Editing on this video was the best by far
Love your videos
Just some added info for anyone interested.. The wheels we're actually American Racing Daisy 200's. Cragar never made this style wheel only the SS version. The rear tires was Mickey Thompson E/T Street slicks.. bias ply street/strip not a full slick. How do I know.. pause the movie at just the right time before the tires wrinkle when the Charger does a wheelie and you can see the white E/T on the tire. It also had a Grant steering wheel and a B&M Mega shifter for a automatic.. Transmission 727 Torqueflite.
Jeremys66Mustang Thanks for the correction.
The Fred Gibb/Dick Harrell 69 Camaro did actually pull a wheelie while smoking the slicks. Theres a picture of it doing that in an old Hot Rod magazine i have. 😎🏁
Thanks for making these videos Craig. I’d love to meet you in person as you helped mold my childhood when I saw the first two films... I loved cars and still do. Even if you have to break down all the stuff about it.. it won’t stop me from loving the movies, if I ever did meet you in person I would one hundred percent want to talk car with you for at least a solid while and ask if you have any of the cars that got put into the movies or if you miss them or whatever. Either way I’m glad you do these a lot. It’s great work to see be broken down. I would rather know it’s not the real deal sometimes than think it is.. and fun Fact for movie buffs out there: Tim Trella was the guy who did the deadites stunts in Army Of Darkness and has also worked on numerous Judd Appatow films like Superbad
I'm a simple man. I see a new Craig Lieberman video and I just click it.
Hello from Puerto Rico✌️
Love this
I can't tell you how many arguments i got into, because i knew wheelies and burnouts don't mix. Thank you for finally saying it on video
They do happen though just not with THAT much smoke, more of a whisp, and not from spinning right away
Love the vids Craig
Growing up my dad had a car that this charger always reminds me of. 68 big block corvette with a tunnel ram and side exhaust . 600+ HP, monster burnouts. Scared the shit out of me. Pure exhileration.
Thank you for the gread video.
This is literally the car that got me into cars !
Hey Hollywood, My wish list movie: a Pre-quel where we see Dom in High school around 1985. it includes his Dad (played by Vin Diesel) as a Racer of the 70 Charger ... featuring many classic cars in their used car form and throw in some mid 80s foreign cars (call it the quick and the curious).. Imagine a 1986 Toyota dealer with the new Supra in the showroom and out back some classic cars driven by the mechanics... all street racers .. lets get back to the original premise: fast cars racing.
Thank You Craig, I love your stories!!!!
Its a beast and the sound..
Neat! Good shit as always
Love it!
I'm not a mopar fan at all, but there is NO arguing the badass cool factor of that charger period!!!
I know in a prior video you mentioned the Challenger & Yenko from 2F2F were rebuilds from junked cars, but I’d love to hear more about them. Love me some Mopar Muscle (the Camaro ain’t bad either)!!!
One year prior to the procurement of cars. I sold a similar engine that was in my dart I had the 2 1/4 stacker on my mooneyham. Now I wish I kept that dart fully setup.
Having this car in the movie was genius from a marketing standpoint. I think having the imports and the American classic muscle drew in a lot more audience.
Do a video on the train from the final drag scene in the first movie
We made it on a computer. The end.
@@spiritlevelstudios that was like a 1500 hp supra 1/4 mile time
See that’s why it’s awesome to hear first hand accounts of how the train scene was done. I watched 2 separate stories one said cgi the other said models
Awesome car x)
Great content brother!! Appreciate you sharing with us fans!!
Is there gonna be another FnF 10??
🤘thanks again
You should do a video on the 69 camaro and 70 challenger from 2fast2furious. I remember you covered the camaro briefly in an older video, but most of it was related to discussing the way the yacht jump was done.
Craig’s always giving us what we want!
Awesome
So i first saw this when i was 9, just this little nine year old from Scotland who loved cars, he was brought home in an MG meistro, 5 cars later when this film came out was a Honda concerto 1.6 16v and boy when i saw that Charger my brain exploded, when it takes of out of the driveway it gave me chills...like wow, cars can have enough power to do wheelies, its not just motorbikes.....i still want one :(
The stunt 1 car is on the universal lot, part of the studio tour I believe.
I love how all your vids are confirming alot of facts I found whilst scouring the early web before arseholes started making shit up and glorifying facts.
KEEP THEM UP!!!
Doms Charger from F&F 1, the "Gone in 60 seconds" Shelby GT500 Eleanor and the Mad Max Falcon XB V8 Interceptor will always remain my favorit movie cars of all time.
Here comes the boss again
I'm a JDM fanboy (and if I was given the chance to own either the Supra or Charger I'd choose the Supra) but god damn if the Charger isn't one of the best sounding cars!
“So much torque, the chassis twisted coming off the line.”
So why didn’t it twist when Dom stepped on the gas when the light turned green?
Reinforcements? Lol
It could’ve
A prepped track is much stickier than the street???
because family!
Nothing in this film makes sense.