What about the Mad King...did he call you a traitor? Did he beg for a reprieve? He said the same thing he'd been saying for hours...burn them all. Love how it is like what the Joker said, in their final moments, they show who they really are.
Imagine how awesome was it, as a Batman fan, to see Gordon actually doing something important and helping Batman after four previous films sidelined him to a cameo.
Or be forced to be black for the sake of inclusion….us black people wouldve been fine if they introduced established black characters like Thomas duke, or any of the foxx family rather than making white ppl look like us
@@San-oe1xv No, Gordon killed him. Bruce had nothing to do with it. It's also not like BvS warehouse. In that scene Bruce purposefully blows up the building and kills those guys. It would be the same if Bruce was the one who destroyed the railroad, but he didn't. Gordon did.
Batman throws his batarang at the window first, I’m guessing to allow wind to enter the car which he then uses as resistance to fly outwards. Nice attention to detail there.
I think this was more so to f@*k with batman fans. Comic wise Al Ghul isn't some theatrical myth, he was literally over 600 years old and "dying" wasn't exactly his first rodeo.
This scene was so iconic. I had a car accident and when it happend and I couldn't do anything, I did the same. Accepting the fate has something chilling
Ra: 'What did you do?' Batman: 'I took the only good cop in Gotham, and... brought him up to my level. It wasn't hard. I just had to give him a black tank.'
@@Ps3rikbr68 North Korean Martial Arts Master, Kirigi from Batman Arkham Origins. About Batman's real identity, Ra's knew for a while after Hugo Strange told him the identity before capturing Bruce Wayne as Political Prisoner and applied protocol ten
"Don't be afraid Bruce" The same words Thomas Wayne said to Bruce before dying. Bruce was Thomas' son, but Batman was Ra'as son in many respects. Bruce often quotes Ra'as ("a criminal is not complicated", "theatricallity and deception are powerful agents", etc), which is a proof of Bruce's respect to Ra'as' methods and analysis, even disagreeing with his goals. Batman Begins is my personal favorite. It created the trend of exploring superheroes' inner self
I've never made that connection between Thomas Waynes' words in the well to Ras' in the train. Very nice catch. One could say that I've never learned to mind my surroundings
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 Touché. In the film storyline, indeed the four of them gave him guidance and love. But in the context of this scene, the resemblance between Thomas and Ra'as is pretty evident
@@ThoughtGaze hello!? it's the Lazarus pit chemicals that restores his super natural powers of a god...it's what keep him alive and and powerfully unstoppable.If you don't what makes ra's al ghoul so powerful then you must not know him at all or why it happens in the comics stores and what not then.
Rás closing his eyes is great. Rás was actually quite a cool guy and in fairness he MADE batman. Definitely one of the coolest villains. Literally never looked scared once.
Well Ras is the son of a sultan, and he is from the Middle East The mentality of middle eastern people are different and Ras was a strong and powerful men.
But, I don't get one thing. Why didn't he jump off the train when he had the chance? Since he isn't injured fatally or anything, he could've escape from the train before it fell off and get somewhere safe. Was it his way of admitting defeat and he accepted death as his fate for his failure?
Ra's: "You're just an ordinary man in a cape, that's why you couldn't fight injustice, and that's why you can't stop this train." Bruce: "Who said anything about stopping it?" "You never learned to mind your surroundings." Ra's: "You've finally learned to do what is neccessary." Bruce: "I won't kill you... but I don't have to save you." My favorite part of the scene.
@@ThoughtGaze Why Ra's Al Ghul of all the people. Bruce bites the hand that feed him. It was Ra's that help him and showed him a path is this what he gets Bruce even burned down his house. And let the man who murder his parents just get away with it.
@@BlackDiamond2718 he did. if you see a person drowning and know you could save them but choose not to out of spite? that's just as bad as murder. so whether you want to call it murder or not is irrelevant. he did something morally equivalent to murder.
@@ThoughtGaze He didn't "murder" Ras Al Ghul. He gave him the option to escape before the train crashed, knowing full well that he could have escaped. But Ras Al Ghul chose his loyalty to the League of Shadows and everything he stood for before his own life. He chose to die on the train.
I love how Ra's al Ghul keeps defeating Batman in fight. First on the ice, where he trains him, second at his mansion, third here in train but Batman does excatly what Ra's did on the ice. He is letting Ra's think he won the fight keeping him away from the train's console. Then that beautiful line comes in ''You never learned to mind your surroundings'' its proof that Batman learns from his mistakes(like where he manage to defeat Bane in round 2)
@don't care "bale is accepted by everyone as best batman". Sorry to burst your bubble but for most Batman fans Affleck is the definitive portayal. Bale's Batman sucked. He just happened to be in great movies
1:49 - 2:09 That's what made *Batman: Begins* one of the best origin stories. His father's last words was *"don't be afraid"* and Batman mastered not fear of bats, but human fear itself. Humans fear being forgotten and death itself...and Batman (though having a plan, it still was *in retrospect* not a solid plan) was willing to die for what he believed in...that's what made this movie significant, to me.
Actually the only other villian I recalled accepted his demise was John Travoltas character in Broken Arrow 1996. He takes a missle head on with a smile on his face.
I like how instead of screaming like normal bad guys in these movies, Ra's accepts his fate by closing his eyes like a true ninja. also, 2:15 is just gold.
- I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you. - Do you know how I've got theses scars ? - No, but I know you've got these ! - Tell me where the trigger is... and then you will have my permission to die. Batman knows how to put an end to a conversation.
@@RShadow12 These guys think that if you're going to be cast as Batman, you somehow MUST do Kevin Conroy voice. Then almost no one would fit the character.
I've been going through a bunch of clips of the Dark Knight trilogy and I've realized something. The music that plays at 2:49 always plays when he defeats the villain. It plays here, when he threw Joker of the building and when Talia's truck went off the over pass.
It's sad that Batman Begins is such an undervalued film that barely gets talked about, because it's actually a very well made film. DC struck gold by getting Nolan as a director.
Actually Nolan went to WB to get funding for Inception. They were like done, but make this superhero trilogy for us in case we lose money on your insane dream movie. Nolan being Nolan decided I am going to reinvent the entire superhero genre. Seems to be a firm believer in the philosophy that anything worth achieving is worth overachieving.
I think it's the best of the trilogy. It had a better storyline in my opinion. There was the making of the superhero, and the imaking of a new generation of the Wayne family? (I have no idea what to call him coming in restarting is life and taking his company back.
2:01 to 2:22 Bruce is smarter than Ra’s anticipated. He DID do what was necessary. 2:36 To 2:45 This always gives me chills. It’s cold yet smart at the same time. 2:53 Now this is accepting your fate.
I've always hated that "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." bit. The effect on the world is the same. This just makes Batman's no killing rule a personal copout for taking responsibility instead of a firmly held belief.
“You are just an ordinary man in a cape. That’s why you couldn’t fight injustice and that’s why you can’t stop this train” idk why that line goes so hard but it does.
You never LEARNED TO MIND YOUR SURROUNDINGS! I swear he says that out of anger, frustration, and succession as his teacher kept reminding him how he keeps failing that test. Now, he can say it back.
That moment at 0:09 marked the climax of the whole scene. Ducard and Batman staring at each other, especially Ducard assessing the gravity of the fight to come. The two of them knew the confrontation would be to the death. It was clearly the very first time Ducard got scared (and maybe secretly proud) of his former student, he would never expect such resiliance and willpower from Batman whom he wrongfully underestimated.
Around 1:25 Ra's goes to boxing stance. Liam Neeson knows that sport and it fits character as well - in stress most familiar is what is being used and Ducard might have known boxing before being indoctrinated.
My dad (RIP) said many years ago that since 'we' didn't 'actually' see Ra's al Ghul die in that train explosion, that he might have survived. But I guess The Dark Knight Rises proved that theory wrong. Too bad my dad didn't live around that time to see the movie for himself to find out.
Fun trivia: Shane Rimmer, the white haired Water technician (1:04) is a DC veteran actor, he was in the first three Christopher Reeve Superman films as a Navy Commander, a NASA controller, and a state trooper.
I love how despite having perfectly good reasons to save Ra's at the beginning and to leave him to die at the end, both ultimately led to the main conflicts of BB and TDKR. Had he done the opposite of what he did in either of the situations, he could have then saved himself a lot of trouble.
I've never understood this pointless debate over whether or not Batman really killed him. Like I guess it's fun to debate to have if you wanna be technical with it, but I don't think it's super important at the end of the day. Bruce saved Ra's at the beginning of the movie. He learned from his mistake and chose not to save him when the time came again, without compromising his moral code. From a writing perspective, it's a satisfying way for your villain to be defeated. I get chills every time Batman glides out of the train.
Actively killing and passively allowing to die are two different things. Maybe they both end up with the same result, but the action in both is different
I agree with the whole it isn’t super important narrative and I personally don’t care myself. This is my first time actually seeing that this was an argument thag was debated (that Batman killed Ra), and to be completely honest, I would side with that notion. Yes Batman didn’t directly kill Ra in the idea of be stabbed his heart or sometbing etc. Etc. However he was the indirect cause. He and Gordon blew up the train tracks and even had a physical fight with him, which he later escaped since he had the right instruments to do so, but in the end leaving Ra defenceless and incapable of running. These things were what lead to The death of Ra, and it was both done by Batman (Bruce) and Gordon, so they’re responsible for his death… As mentioned earlier though, don’t think it’s all that serious.
only Nolan and Liam Neeson can secretly make a compassion, father figure character like Henri Ducard, and turn it upside-down into a vengeful villain as Ra's Al Ghul
@@trueblue6201 true. But it does apply especially to this one. Liam was known for mentor characters. And beginning with that, and switching it, he hadn’t played a villain before, makes him the perfect casting for Ra’s Al Ghul.
@Game Gladi8or Oh he absolutely played villains before Batman Begins. However that was when he was not as much of a star so people are not as aware of those roles.
“You never learned to mind your surroundings!” 2:25 I loved how Batman said this in retaliation of how Ra’s lectured him the first time. Like a son critiquing his father back at him. So poetic, Ra’s was in many ways a father figure towards Bruce in the makings of Batman
0:05 - 0:14 you can see the slight shock on ra's face as he watches his student leap through the window in a bat costume and then stare him down like that
It seems that many are overthinking the moral of the story here when there is none; it's simply a plot echo. The dialogue wasn't intended to allegorize that "murder" by inaction is virtuous; it's more so to echo Bruce's regrettable rescue of Ra's-Al-Ghul earlier in the story, where he unwittingly salvaged the League of Shadow's omnicidal operation on Gotham. Dialogic repetition has been one of Nolan's hallmarks, and it resonated here. I'm not necessarily disagreeing that Bruce's inaction was murderous; I just feel people are overemphasizing the morality of this scene, when you need to look at it amorally to understand its significance.
@@ThoughtGaze Dude, just chill out. Ra's had to die someway. If he saved Ra's, then Nolan would crack his head thinking how to put both Ra's and Joker at the same movie.
@@Ps3rikbr68 i don't care that he basically murdered him. i care about the disconnect between batman and fans of the film that wants me to believe he abides by a no kill rule.
@@Ps3rikbr68 no. in bvs he says we're "criminals"... he doesn't give any false pretense like this batman does. at least that batman killed in self defense. this one murdered ras because he hated him. ras was no risk in that moment yet he let him die and pretends he has "one rule" utter HORSESHIT
Ra's al Ghul is a top villain! He also really has a connection to Batman as it was he who trained him, gave him a lot of valuable advice and tips. Quotes like that theatrics and deception are powerful tools, that you have to be aware of your surroundings when fighting, that you have to do what is necessary and everything. The difference between the two is that Ra's has no qualms and advocates revenge and murder, while Batman stands for justice and is more moral. They share a common past and the same goal, but approach it differently, ultimately leading to Batman having to stop Ra's. But he still takes his advice and the tough training to heart and that's why he can ultimately beat him at his own game. This battle is also very realistic! No huge explosions, no enemies being thrown through the air and so on. Just two men really fighting! And while Ra's gains the upper hand, he ultimately falls victim to his own weapons as Bruce, while not physically defeating him, distracts him with the fight enough to ignore the broken train controls and collapsing overhead rails that precede the train are. A clever move by Batman! He doesn't just defeat his opponent, he causes him to make an ultimately fatal mistake! And also the ending of this fight is very realistic! In most films, the villain would probably still do everything to get out of his position screaming loudly or something! Not Ra's al Ghul! He knows he has no more chances, closes his eyes and accepts the inevitable! Batman, on the other hand, is able to save himself thanks to his suit, again validating Ra's claim that theatrics and deception are powerful tools!
BatBale: I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you...... Batfleck: I won't kill you, I am just gonna hurt you.....Really.....Really Bad!!! Battinson: You are still alive????
the hand to hand combat scenes in the dark knight series were really underwhelming lmao. this fight had so many cuts and was not exciting at all. good acting though
I just came here to comment this! After watching the warehouse scene of BvS, you can't ignore how bad the fighting scenes are in these movies, which are masterpieces in their own right. Hopefully the new Batman movies put the two together.
@@brandonbohannon6985 Nope. Realistic fghts are just as exciting. The problem is that there are so many cuts in between the fight that there is no impact in the hits. It also looks very clumsy to boot. Better direction and cuts would do the trick.
@@Furcapper Ok well yeah I agree with you there, but I see why cristopher nolan did it. I feel like since he tried to make it realistic adding the cuts would make it feel fast paced. In which it did look amazing the first couple of times you watch it but then you notice t more later on.
Liam Neeson is top of the line actor. He’s so good and perfect that “Perfect” is an insult to him. Him along Clint Eastwood, Tome Cruise are the Actor of Actors they simply own everything regarding acting and the media entertainment. Acting was born out of them,
No one ever seems to notice -- when Batman decides not to save Ra's, he's essentially putting his foot right on the line between "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy", which is pretty much his defining characteristic. And a moment later, just before he bat-wings it out of the train car, his eyes roll over to completely white -- just like the Batman from the comics, just like the Batman from the animated series. Christopher Nolan's way of showing that in that moment, Bruce Wayne becomes Batman. Pretty cool little detail there. Love this movie!
I always love watching the fight scenes in these movies, most superhero movies have to use a lot of CGI due to the super powers but here it’s just bone breaking choreographing it’s a nice change of pace
“I won’t kill you...but I don’t have to save you.” That always struck me as such a great line. Because I realized, he’s right. He doesn’t have to save anyone, he just can’t kill them. He’s no Superman or regular superhero who saves people. That’s not what he does. He prevents and protects people from getting hurt and harmed. This is what separates Batman from the pack and gives him and extra dimension. Unlike other heroes, he doesn’t feel the need to save, only to protect. That’s what his mission is, and in this scene, he fulfilled it, meaning he had to do nothing else.
geomatric films I think Batman did that because he was trying to prove the Joker wrong, that he wouldn’t break his one rule and bow down to his level. He wanted to prove to the Joker that not everyone was as twisted and as ugly as he was. In Batman Begins, not only was it a much tighter situation on the train that was about to crash, but Batman didn’t need to prove anything to Ras. Also, it’s unlikely that Batman could’ve saved Ras even if he wanted time.
Bro. He fucking killed in the sequels: he rammed his tumbler at the driver who was driving a garbage truck, killed Harvey Dent by pushing him off, and killing Talia and the driver by shooting missiles at them, and veering them off the road
If you guys notice 2:48...the soundtrack that plays is same when Batman throws Joker off the building in Dark Knight and blows the truck in dark knight rises.
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I love that. No scream. No "NOOOOOOO". No "I'LL BE BACK". Ra's just closes his eyes in acceptance
Deviant Interface 2:56 me too.
Because he know he will be brought back , by league of shadows , in comic Ra's alghul never die
Hell yeah the nolan trilogy are absolute masterpieces
What about the Mad King...did he call you a traitor? Did he beg for a reprieve?
He said the same thing he'd been saying for hours...burn them all.
Love how it is like what the Joker said, in their final moments, they show who they really are.
Hari Gunawan I don’t think there’s a Lazarus pit in the dark knight trilogy
Imagine how awesome was it, as a Batman fan, to see Gordon actually doing something important and helping Batman after four previous films sidelined him to a cameo.
To be fair Gordon is less than helpful in the animated movies and comics I think Bruce or Alfred should train him
@@postsniper-7532 in arkham origins, hes basically one punch man, and same goes for arkham knight
and now they did it again in the new batman, didnt even realize it was gordon
Or be forced to be black for the sake of inclusion….us black people wouldve been fine if they introduced established black characters like Thomas duke, or any of the foxx family rather than making white ppl look like us
How did Gordon help Batman more in the 60s than in the entire Dark Knight Trilogy and Arkham franchise?
"I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." Damn that line gives me chills
Hurray for Manslaughter!
So he indirectly killed him
Reminds me of warehouse scene in bvs
@@San-oe1xv No, Gordon killed him. Bruce had nothing to do with it. It's also not like BvS warehouse. In that scene Bruce purposefully blows up the building and kills those guys. It would be the same if Bruce was the one who destroyed the railroad, but he didn't. Gordon did.
@@teddydunn4435 Batman didn't purposefully blow the warhouse what were you watching. Only a side was the building blew up but that was to save martha.
Batman throws his batarang at the window first, I’m guessing to allow wind to enter the car which he then uses as resistance to fly outwards. Nice attention to detail there.
Movies are so illogical that our mind is trained to not look at it when it's actually there
Yeah but what did he do to so perfectly blowout the back of the train?
@@vrASMR180 I don't understand that either, also at the speed they were going, wouldn't Ra's fall out too because nothing is keeping him in place?
Da69expert1 that'll be pointless. He doesn't have a cape to slide away safely, without which he can't.
@@rojav784 yeah he'd be dead obv, I guess it was bending physics for the sake of the story, to definitively kill off this character
Ra's: "I'll leave plan B to Bane"
Batman: "What"
Ra's: "What"
ha ha
@@OrionThomas30 ho hi hi haa haa hu hi haa haaa...
Stone Cold: "What"
Did your balls drop off
Give me one reason why I shouldn’t have my boy here pull your head off.👊
Perhaps Ra's was wondering why Bruce would shoot a man before throwing him out of a train?
Deshi deshi bashara bashara
Bane voice is so iconic i can’t escape it from reading every single line of his quote
Why did i read that i Banes voice
bob roger bruhhhh fucking same
Because it's more satisfying
Ra's trained Batman.
Batman trained Ra's.
Perfectly Balanced...
SURYA DHEERAJ as all things should be
@@jongetitdunn lmao RIP Thanos.
Ibrahim Ismail F to Thanos
He also trained his daughter, if you get my meaning
@@martinbaranyi2129 Nah he tested her will and endurance...;)
The Nolan trilogy had the perfect casting for villains
Oh, you think villains are your ally. But you merely adopted that opinion; I was born with it, molded by it.
I live for these bane quotes on TH-cam comments 😂😂
Every Villain Is Lemons For everyone
@@rioheat of course!!!
Just not their name pronunciations
Masterpiece. No scream or war cry. He just closes his eyes and accepts his fate.
Love Batman's "mind your surroundings" line at 2:23. Ties back to the same warning Ra's had given him throughout the film.
I think this was more so to f@*k with batman fans. Comic wise Al Ghul isn't some theatrical myth, he was literally over 600 years old and "dying" wasn't exactly his first rodeo.
@@BenDover-id7zg Selina killing Bane in TDKR didn't bother me. But I do really like your suggestion!
Like a Warrior
This scene was so iconic. I had a car accident and when it happend and I couldn't do anything, I did the same. Accepting the fate has something chilling
Batman: "You didn't think I'd risk losing the battle for Gotham in a fist fight with *you?* You need an ace in the hole. Mine's Gordon."
Ra: 'What did you do?'
Batman: 'I took the only good cop in Gotham, and... brought him up to my level. It wasn't hard. I just had to give him a black tank.'
You see train cannot fly coz of gravity, all it needs is to bomb the subway bridge.
this should be way higher
Joker: Don't mind me, I'm just, ah, taking notes.
You see righteousness is like gravity all it takes is a little push
Crashing this train... with no survivors!
"you're a big guy"
"for you"
Abhinav Menon And I am here to fulfill Rha’s Al Ghul’s Destiny.
Jackson If only the lazarus pit is exist in this universe, ahihi
@@tomasu301 Who trained Batman from Arkham City? Because that Ra's didn't know his identity.
@@Ps3rikbr68 North Korean Martial Arts Master, Kirigi from Batman Arkham Origins. About Batman's real identity, Ra's knew for a while after Hugo Strange told him the identity before capturing Bruce Wayne as Political Prisoner and applied protocol ten
“Familiar! Don’t you have anything new?”
“How about this!?” *breaks sword*
Even Ras was lowkey shook lmao
That was nice
I love it when Batman actually uses those fins for something.
@@billyhenerson2871 Also when he throws the joker from the building
@@arachnomech88 he even uses it to break bane's mask.
Now that i think about it, those fins actually played a key role in defeating the main villains of the trilogy.
Man Qui Gon really turned into the darkside after Maul was done with him...
Lol 😂
qualivia 2:51 😆
Well Darth Maul was trained by Magneto so...he learned well.
@@BlackDiamond2718 Ian Mckellen didn't play Sidious
@@xstevenxcorex6 look up ray park
"Don't be afraid Bruce"
The same words Thomas Wayne said to Bruce before dying. Bruce was Thomas' son, but Batman was Ra'as son in many respects.
Bruce often quotes Ra'as ("a criminal is not complicated", "theatricallity and deception are powerful agents", etc), which is a proof of Bruce's respect to Ra'as' methods and analysis, even disagreeing with his goals.
Batman Begins is my personal favorite. It created the trend of exploring superheroes' inner self
As much as I truly love this entire trilogy Batman Begins is by far my favorite entry. Everything about it is just perfect.
I've never made that connection between Thomas Waynes' words in the well to Ras' in the train. Very nice catch. One could say that I've never learned to mind my surroundings
Well Spider Man 2 explored Peter's Inner Psyche too (and it came before BB), so BB was not the first but one of the first.
He actually has 4 father figures in the film...Thomas Wayne, Alfred, Ducard, and Gordon. They all 4 gave him love and knowledge and tried to help him.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 Touché. In the film storyline, indeed the four of them gave him guidance and love. But in the context of this scene, the resemblance between Thomas and Ra'as is pretty evident
Moral of the story: it’s not okay to kill, but it’s okay to leave people to die
That was his way of letting karma deal with him basically.
@@manofsteelgoodmanll7925 yes, the karma of batman holding him down until there was no time to save himself lol
@@ThoughtGaze right cause if he said him again...then he was gonna kill everyone in his path, so that's why bat man could not allow that to happen.
@@manofsteelgoodmanll7925 sorry, is Ras supernatural in this movie? No he is not. a pair of fucking handcuffs would suffice.
@@ThoughtGaze hello!? it's the Lazarus pit chemicals that restores his super natural powers of a god...it's what keep him alive and and powerfully unstoppable.If you don't what makes ra's al ghoul so powerful then you must not know him at all or why it happens in the comics stores and what not then.
Rás closing his eyes is great. Rás was actually quite a cool guy and in fairness he MADE batman. Definitely one of the coolest villains. Literally never looked scared once.
Well Ras is the son of a sultan, and he is from the Middle East
The mentality of middle eastern people are different and Ras was a strong and powerful men.
@@elmaz46 lol ras was not the son of sultan he qas mercenary and he was not from middle east!
@@anantambisht4895 he was from the Middle East! Go and Google and search it up!
@@anantambisht4895Cope
But, I don't get one thing. Why didn't he jump off the train when he had the chance? Since he isn't injured fatally or anything, he could've escape from the train before it fell off and get somewhere safe. Was it his way of admitting defeat and he accepted death as his fate for his failure?
Ra's: "You're just an ordinary man in a cape, that's why you couldn't fight injustice, and that's why you can't stop this train."
Bruce: "Who said anything about stopping it?" "You never learned to mind your surroundings."
Ra's: "You've finally learned to do what is neccessary."
Bruce: "I won't kill you... but I don't have to save you."
My favorite part of the scene.
your favorite part is when he rationalizes why it's okay to murder ras al ghul?
@@ThoughtGaze Why Ra's Al Ghul of all the people. Bruce bites the hand that feed him. It was Ra's that help him and showed him a path is this what he gets Bruce even burned down his house. And let the man who murder his parents just get away with it.
@@ThoughtGaze but he didn't
@@BlackDiamond2718 he did. if you see a person drowning and know you could save them but choose not to out of spite? that's just as bad as murder. so whether you want to call it murder or not is irrelevant. he did something morally equivalent to murder.
@@ThoughtGaze He didn't "murder" Ras Al Ghul. He gave him the option to escape before the train crashed, knowing full well that he could have escaped. But Ras Al Ghul chose his loyalty to the League of Shadows and everything he stood for before his own life. He chose to die on the train.
Ra’s goes out like such a G! Closes his eyes and accepts his death, but never betrays his ideals
0:27 that was so badass, the batman voice sounded so good in batman begins, sad they changed it
I love how Ra's al Ghul keeps defeating Batman in fight. First on the ice, where he trains him, second at his mansion, third here in train but Batman does excatly what Ra's did on the ice. He is letting Ra's think he won the fight keeping him away from the train's console. Then that beautiful line comes in ''You never learned to mind your surroundings'' its proof that Batman learns from his mistakes(like where he manage to defeat Bane in round 2)
It’s “You never did learn to mind your surroundings!”
This movie is different from the fight between them, Batman used to wash Ra's al Ghul every day of the week in comics
Spider-man could have saved the train.
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MR.RANDOM Spider-Man 2 Train
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-Peter Parker
Lol
He's just a kid. No older than my son.
I know everyone shits on bale’s Batman voice, but when he’s mad and yells it’s by far the best live action Batman voice
Nope. Still prefer Affleck's
godot Affleck is no where near Bale
@@frankiemoore9127 no where near as awful as bale I agree. Look Bale is a great Bruce Wayne. But a horrible batman
Especially in the voice department. Even Clooney is better than bale in that department
@don't care "bale is accepted by everyone as best batman". Sorry to burst your bubble but for most Batman fans Affleck is the definitive portayal. Bale's Batman sucked. He just happened to be in great movies
1:49 - 2:09
That's what made *Batman: Begins* one of the best origin stories. His father's last words was *"don't be afraid"* and Batman mastered not fear of bats, but human fear itself. Humans fear being forgotten and death itself...and Batman (though having a plan, it still was *in retrospect* not a solid plan) was willing to die for what he believed in...that's what made this movie significant, to me.
ok
2:49 most badass moment EVER
The music makes it so much better.
And the way batman blank his eyes was so badass
Very freaking iconic I know 👌😎
2:54 The Main Antagonist accepts his death... Just Wow!!
Just like tHAnose
Fuck thanos
Well he won. He got batman to kill him, by leaving him to die with no way out.
@@maciek8159 fuck u
Actually the only other villian I recalled accepted his demise was John Travoltas character in Broken Arrow 1996. He takes a missle head on with a smile on his face.
Imagine if the batmobile said "You have arrived at the wayne tower, that was built by your father "
Gordon: What the F**k
underrated
Batman would know that too before giving the tumbler to Gordon. So, then he wouldn't.
That wouldn’t make any sense
Or just "you have arrived at your father's tower"
@@isaacjohn6053 comments don't have rates shutup bot
There’s always a bigger fish.
Oh shit, wrong movie.
Duel of the fates anybody?
Shit wrong franchise. XD
I will find you.... dammit
Get to the CHOPPA
“I will find you and I will-“
Shit, wrong movie.
Whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you... a *BIGGER FISH*
“I see you took my advice about theatricality a bit...literally”
lel
but we are initiated
I like how instead of screaming like normal bad guys in these movies, Ra's accepts his fate by closing his eyes like a true ninja.
also, 2:15 is just gold.
Yesss!
@@Dragon_Gaming2020 You also did the same thing.
In their last moments people show you who they really are.
@@Dragon_Gaming2020 it’s because ppl have similar opinions. Ever think of that, dipshit?
@@ObiWanKenobi he copied another comment from word to word dipshit
- I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you.
- Do you know how I've got theses scars ?
- No, but I know you've got these !
- Tell me where the trigger is... and then you will have my permission to die.
Batman knows how to put an end to a conversation.
His voice was better in this movie
The Dark Knight was better but the voice was NOT
V J when he said u never learned to mind ur surroundings he sounds like a constipated grandpa
le babouin Maybe because he was just choked lmao. Use some common sense please
@@RShadow12 These guys think that if you're going to be cast as Batman, you somehow MUST do Kevin Conroy voice. Then almost no one would fit the character.
WHERE IS HE
0:31 "Hold on a second, this view across the city is incredible!"
Lmao wtf
"What a lovely, lovely view"
Wow man thats an afk batman lol nice catch!
Lol 😂
it's Chicago. meh
2:49 so no one gonna talk about that amazing score in the background and how it fits perfectly with the scene.
This score is played in every movie in the trilogy when Batman defeats the villain.
@@GoogleUser-lk6xn ik
0:11 Batman glaring and Ra's as Hans Zimmer's score intensifies, is one of my favorite moments in the entire trilogy!
Still remember seeing this masterpiece in the theater ....Most amazing cinematic experience one can get!!!
How was the audience reaction from the ending where joker card shows.
@@miguelgarcia6170 didn't remember exactly but i can tell you than the whole final act was absolute epic in the big screen !!!
I think I watched it 3 or 4 times. This was definitely the best batman movie
Poor guy complimenting the batcar and then scaring him off by shooting a bridge
Batcar ?, I think you mean Batmobile
@Don Juan Tumbler? i think you mean Chick-magnet
Friendly black man approaches to compliment your car and not to steal it.
@@apple54345 Chick-Magnet?
I think you mean Moisturizer.
How about pussy wagon?
I've been going through a bunch of clips of the Dark Knight trilogy and I've realized something. The music that plays at 2:49 always plays when he defeats the villain. It plays here, when he threw Joker of the building and when Talia's truck went off the over pass.
Yes
It's sad that Batman Begins is such an undervalued film that barely gets talked about, because it's actually a very well made film. DC struck gold by getting Nolan as a director.
Better than the dceu
Actually Nolan went to WB to get funding for Inception. They were like done, but make this superhero trilogy for us in case we lose money on your insane dream movie. Nolan being Nolan decided I am going to reinvent the entire superhero genre. Seems to be a firm believer in the philosophy that anything worth achieving is worth overachieving.
@@hardikpanjwani lol
I think it's the best of the trilogy. It had a better storyline in my opinion. There was the making of the superhero, and the imaking of a new generation of the Wayne family? (I have no idea what to call him coming in restarting is life and taking his company back.
@ripvanwinkle91 ngl I am a dc fan too and this batman trilogy is way better than dceu
2:01 to 2:22 Bruce is smarter than Ra’s anticipated. He DID do what was necessary.
2:36 To 2:45 This always gives me chills. It’s cold yet smart at the same time.
2:53 Now this is accepting your fate.
2:01 I just love how Ra's says that and the music goes very well with it too
ra's died as a true ninja he closes his eyes and accept his failure
2:00 This part always gets me
Gary Oldman always gives his all no matter what role he's in, bless
Ignitus!
"I won't kill you........But I don't have to save you." One of the best lines from a hero and it was from Batman.
“Don’t be afraid, Bruce. You are just an ordinary man in a cape. That’s why you couldn’t fight injustice and that’s why you *can’t* stop this train!”
Who said anything about stopping it…
I've always hated that "I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you." bit. The effect on the world is the same. This just makes Batman's no killing rule a personal copout for taking responsibility instead of a firmly held belief.
“You are just an ordinary man in a cape. That’s why you couldn’t fight injustice and that’s why you can’t stop this train” idk why that line goes so hard but it does.
You never LEARNED TO MIND YOUR SURROUNDINGS!
I swear he says that out of anger, frustration, and succession as his teacher kept reminding him how he keeps failing that test. Now, he can say it back.
2:50 they reuse this music when Bruce tosses Joker off the building in TDK...and catch him of course, awesome...
And when he makes the bomb truck driven by Miranda fall into the viaduct
👌👌👌
It’s the good triumphs evil sound effect I guess lol
It's like good guy pulls a "no u" on bad guy.
That moment at 0:09 marked the climax of the whole scene. Ducard and Batman staring at each other, especially Ducard assessing the gravity of the fight to come. The two of them knew the confrontation would be to the death. It was clearly the very first time Ducard got scared (and maybe secretly proud) of his former student, he would never expect such resiliance and willpower from Batman whom he wrongfully underestimated.
Around 1:25 Ra's goes to boxing stance. Liam Neeson knows that sport and it fits character as well - in stress most familiar is what is being used and Ducard might have known boxing before being indoctrinated.
Batman tried spinning that's a good trick
2:15 Commissioner Gordon is so adorable in this
Yes!!!
ras: familiar dont you have anything new?
batman: HOWWWBOOOOATTHIIISSS!!!
0:26
Lidaa latap LMFAOOOOOOOOO, HAAAAAWBOOOTDIIIIIS
You have finally learned to do what is necessary.
Ra's Al Ghul: Familiar! Don't you have anything you? (Strikes him with sword)
Batman: (Dodges sword with gauntlets) How about this?!
Wrist claws are dope.
0:30
That's a look of annoyance.
He's like "Hey You broke my sword."
My dad (RIP) said many years ago that since 'we' didn't 'actually' see Ra's al Ghul die in that train explosion, that he might have survived. But I guess The Dark Knight Rises proved that theory wrong. Too bad my dad didn't live around that time to see the movie for himself to find out.
Peace be upon him. Amen
Douglas Snyder I’m sorry about your father. I hope he rests well
@@mr.johnson9252 Thank you.
RIH (rest in heaven) 🙏🙏
I still feel they left it open. When Bruce sees him in the third movie, maybe it actually was him in person.
Fun trivia: Shane Rimmer, the white haired Water technician (1:04) is a DC veteran actor, he was in the first three Christopher Reeve Superman films as a Navy Commander, a NASA controller, and a state trooper.
2:49 amazing music!
Louiemeister yeah man what's the soundtrack?
Same in TDK when he threw Joker off the building.
Gives me goosebumps man
Also the same when Talia Al Ghul truck crashes in TDKR. (2012).
It’s what we call “when the bad guy is stopped.”
I love how despite having perfectly good reasons to save Ra's at the beginning and to leave him to die at the end, both ultimately led to the main conflicts of BB and TDKR. Had he done the opposite of what he did in either of the situations, he could have then saved himself a lot of trouble.
It's testimony to Ras that, even as a mid-50s man, he can hold his own and defeat a younger man in armour.
Bruce fights like a younger man, with nothing held back. Admirable, but mistaken.
I've never understood this pointless debate over whether or not Batman really killed him. Like I guess it's fun to debate to have if you wanna be technical with it, but I don't think it's super important at the end of the day. Bruce saved Ra's at the beginning of the movie. He learned from his mistake and chose not to save him when the time came again, without compromising his moral code. From a writing perspective, it's a satisfying way for your villain to be defeated. I get chills every time Batman glides out of the train.
God bless your comment.
I especially needed this after have this similar kind of argument with someone. This debate is so dumb and pointless.
Actively killing and passively allowing to die are two different things. Maybe they both end up with the same result, but the action in both is different
@@StyIoire At least you get it.
I agree with the whole it isn’t super important narrative and I personally don’t care myself. This is my first time actually seeing that this was an argument thag was debated (that Batman killed Ra), and to be completely honest, I would side with that notion.
Yes Batman didn’t directly kill Ra in the idea of be stabbed his heart or sometbing etc. Etc. However he was the indirect cause. He and Gordon blew up the train tracks and even had a physical fight with him, which he later escaped since he had the right instruments to do so, but in the end leaving Ra defenceless and incapable of running. These things were what lead to The death of Ra, and it was both done by Batman (Bruce) and Gordon, so they’re responsible for his death…
As mentioned earlier though, don’t think it’s all that serious.
Where’s your particular set of skills now huh Liam neeson?!? 🖕🖕🖕 2:55
The Joker I pee'd my short shorts laughing @ this comment
Tell that to Ledger 😆
@His snake Is liquid Have you seen the movies? that didn't happen
Well he didn’t make taken them, so he didn’t have them yet. :D
He became one with the force!
only Nolan and Liam Neeson can secretly make a compassion, father figure character like Henri Ducard, and turn it upside-down into a vengeful villain as Ra's Al Ghul
I mean Disney does the surprise villain a lot. You also have Get Out, Pyscho, Clue, LA Confidential, Alien, Unbreakable, etec.
@@trueblue6201 true. But it does apply especially to this one. Liam was known for mentor characters. And beginning with that, and switching it, he hadn’t played a villain before, makes him the perfect casting for Ra’s Al Ghul.
@Game Gladi8or Oh he absolutely played villains before Batman Begins. However that was when he was not as much of a star so people are not as aware of those roles.
@@trueblue6201 only thing disney does is suck
@@QuestionmarkTimes2 Spoken like an internet edge lord.
“You never learned to mind your surroundings!” 2:25 I loved how Batman said this in retaliation of how Ra’s lectured him the first time. Like a son critiquing his father back at him. So poetic, Ra’s was in many ways a father figure towards Bruce in the makings of Batman
"I won't kill you - but I don't have to save you." That's manslaughter! DING!
Gordon technically killed him.
And you dont have to save someone if it would endanger your own life ..
Saving someone from suicide is manslaughter?
Todd Garver no. Except Ra's wasn't killing himself, which is how suicides work? :/
The music at 2:49 and Ra's accepting his death is so freakin epic. ❤
Greatest Batman voice in the trilogy is when he said
“ how about this”
Familiar, don't you have anything new?
I won't kill you but I don't have to save you.
One of my favorite quotes of the Nolan trilogy
Agreed! Still gives me goosebumps to this day! Never gets old! ❤
I love that line...
"I won't kill you. But, I don't have to save you."
0:05 - 0:14 you can see the slight shock on ra's face as he watches his student leap through the window in a bat costume and then stare him down like that
As much as I appreciate The Dark Knight as a better film. But Batman Begins is my favorite movie of the trilogy, I can watch it again and again.
ikr! I would watch it every night on my ipod XDXD
Agreed, I always said Batman begins was the better Batman movie but the dark Knight was a better film.
Me too
Resul Gül dying in peace, knowing he's lost to a worthy enemy.
1:20 when I’m walking outside and see a 1998 Honda Civic
"I won't kill you... but you're hospital bills will."
2:25 This scene is just beautiful!
It seems that many are overthinking the moral of the story here when there is none; it's simply a plot echo.
The dialogue wasn't intended to allegorize that "murder" by inaction is virtuous; it's more so to echo Bruce's regrettable rescue of Ra's-Al-Ghul earlier in the story, where he unwittingly salvaged the League of Shadow's omnicidal operation on Gotham. Dialogic repetition has been one of Nolan's hallmarks, and it resonated here.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing that Bruce's inaction was murderous; I just feel people are overemphasizing the morality of this scene, when you need to look at it amorally to understand its significance.
bullshit. people claim this batman has a no kill rule yet he basically murders ras al ghul.
@@ThoughtGaze Dude, just chill out. Ra's had to die someway. If he saved Ra's, then Nolan would crack his head thinking how to put both Ra's and Joker at the same movie.
@@Ps3rikbr68 i don't care that he basically murdered him. i care about the disconnect between batman and fans of the film that wants me to believe he abides by a no kill rule.
@@ThoughtGaze Have u ever watched BvS? That's the one you should worry about.
@@Ps3rikbr68 no. in bvs he says we're "criminals"... he doesn't give any false pretense like this batman does. at least that batman killed in self defense. this one murdered ras because he hated him. ras was no risk in that moment yet he let him die and pretends he has "one rule" utter HORSESHIT
Such an underrated film. Whole trilogy was just incredible.
Ra's al Ghul is a top villain! He also really has a connection to Batman as it was he who trained him, gave him a lot of valuable advice and tips. Quotes like that theatrics and deception are powerful tools, that you have to be aware of your surroundings when fighting, that you have to do what is necessary and everything. The difference between the two is that Ra's has no qualms and advocates revenge and murder, while Batman stands for justice and is more moral. They share a common past and the same goal, but approach it differently, ultimately leading to Batman having to stop Ra's. But he still takes his advice and the tough training to heart and that's why he can ultimately beat him at his own game. This battle is also very realistic! No huge explosions, no enemies being thrown through the air and so on. Just two men really fighting! And while Ra's gains the upper hand, he ultimately falls victim to his own weapons as Bruce, while not physically defeating him, distracts him with the fight enough to ignore the broken train controls and collapsing overhead rails that precede the train are. A clever move by Batman! He doesn't just defeat his opponent, he causes him to make an ultimately fatal mistake! And also the ending of this fight is very realistic! In most films, the villain would probably still do everything to get out of his position screaming loudly or something! Not Ra's al Ghul! He knows he has no more chances, closes his eyes and accepts the inevitable! Batman, on the other hand, is able to save himself thanks to his suit, again validating Ra's claim that theatrics and deception are powerful tools!
BatBale: I won't kill you, but I don't have to save you......
Batfleck: I won't kill you, I am just gonna hurt you.....Really.....Really Bad!!!
Battinson: You are still alive????
In their last moment people show you who they really are -Joker
The way Batman flies off the train is legendary. Saw this movie in theaters and was amazing.
Ra’s: “that’s why you couldn’t fight injustice and that’s why you can’t stop this train!”
Batman: do I look like Spider-Man to you?
the hand to hand combat scenes in the dark knight series were really underwhelming lmao. this fight had so many cuts and was not exciting at all. good acting though
I just came here to comment this! After watching the warehouse scene of BvS, you can't ignore how bad the fighting scenes are in these movies, which are masterpieces in their own right. Hopefully the new Batman movies put the two together.
@@Furcapper Oh yes please!!!!
It's because this batman takes place in a realistic world. This is a realistic fight.
@@brandonbohannon6985 Nope. Realistic fghts are just as exciting. The problem is that there are so many cuts in between the fight that there is no impact in the hits. It also looks very clumsy to boot. Better direction and cuts would do the trick.
@@Furcapper Ok well yeah I agree with you there, but I see why cristopher nolan did it. I feel like since he tried to make it realistic adding the cuts would make it feel fast paced. In which it did look amazing the first couple of times you watch it but then you notice t more later on.
Me and the Boys when there's only one slice of Pizza left.
0:09 is so funny to me. Ra's is probably thinking in his mind, This guy just does not know when to quit.
Eyes of Batman 😡
Batman when leaving Ra's al ghul behind: “I missed the part where that’s my problem.”
Liam Neeson is top of the line actor. He’s so good and perfect that “Perfect” is an insult to him. Him along Clint Eastwood, Tome Cruise are the Actor of Actors they simply own everything regarding acting and the media entertainment. Acting was born out of them,
Seriously The Dark knight trilogy has some of the most iconic and legendary quotes in cinema history, most of them can teach us a lot about ourselves
Man why Batman is the best superhero ever. Best villains, best stories! no other hero can beat up this. Love you DC
Ra's death is like Thanos's. Both accept their defeat with honor. Respect to them both for sticking to their ideals
No one ever seems to notice -- when Batman decides not to save Ra's, he's essentially putting his foot right on the line between "Good Guy" and "Bad Guy", which is pretty much his defining characteristic. And a moment later, just before he bat-wings it out of the train car, his eyes roll over to completely white -- just like the Batman from the comics, just like the Batman from the animated series. Christopher Nolan's way of showing that in that moment, Bruce Wayne becomes Batman. Pretty cool little detail there. Love this movie!
1:51
I love this music
Me too! Hans Zimmer at his best
I always love watching the fight scenes in these movies, most superhero movies have to use a lot of CGI due to the super powers but here it’s just bone breaking choreographing it’s a nice change of pace
Ra's Al Ghul is such a honorable antagonist
Liam Nesson was absolutely killing it with this role.
“I won’t kill you...but I don’t have to save you.”
That always struck me as such a great line. Because I realized, he’s right. He doesn’t have to save anyone, he just can’t kill them. He’s no Superman or regular superhero who saves people. That’s not what he does. He prevents and protects people from getting hurt and harmed. This is what separates Batman from the pack and gives him and extra dimension. Unlike other heroes, he doesn’t feel the need to save, only to protect. That’s what his mission is, and in this scene, he fulfilled it, meaning he had to do nothing else.
But yet batman decided to save the joker when he was falling and he also was completely able to save ra’s without him being much of a threat
geomatric films I think Batman did that because he was trying to prove the Joker wrong, that he wouldn’t break his one rule and bow down to his level. He wanted to prove to the Joker that not everyone was as twisted and as ugly as he was. In Batman Begins, not only was it a much tighter situation on the train that was about to crash, but Batman didn’t need to prove anything to Ras. Also, it’s unlikely that Batman could’ve saved Ras even if he wanted time.
but he literally breaks a window for Ras to jump out of before blowing the train behind him and flying out. He didn’t kill him
@@anubisxelt6895 Nah that's now why he broke it
Bro. He fucking killed in the sequels: he rammed his tumbler at the driver who was driving a garbage truck, killed Harvey Dent by pushing him off, and killing Talia and the driver by shooting missiles at them, and veering them off the road
An alpha way of sending off a villain and an alpha way of a villain to accept defeat...
I love how they finally gave Batman his dignity in these movies
If you guys notice 2:48...the soundtrack that plays is same when Batman throws Joker off the building in Dark Knight and blows the truck in dark knight rises.
02:45 best exit scene ever made on super hero movie
When batman rolls his eyes back before escaping. The white eyes look menacing. Don't know why they don't just have him wear white contacts.
Have you ever tried white contacts? You can nearly see through them, not very good for being a vigilante!
CG is a better alternative than.
I didn’t even notice that before
I've always wondered why they did this...