I think your initial inclination with Winnipeg was correct: 3-7 in their last 10 with 4 straight losses with no significant changes in their roster health to explain such an implosion.
I think the losses of Ehlers and Samberg are alot more significant than what is being said... our PP doesn't work without Ehlers and the work Samberg does in the D zone makes a difference every single game he plays. He does the small things that go unnoticed. We also have illness and other undisclosed injuries that haven't been made public at this point. If you look at the Vegas and Dallas games, both games were tied until the last 10 mins of the games and our guys couldn't battle back after those teams took the lead. Think what needs to happen is if we are tied with 5 or less mins to spare, put our strongest D players out there on the ice and take it to OT. And if the goalie is pulled, once the boys score one, get the goalie back in. We could have built on that 3-1 last night if Helle was back in net instead of letting it go to 4-1.
@@phyllis5256 I agree with much of this, though I don't see much of the Jets. In particular, Ehlers is a key guy, period. I don't understand why people haven't seemed to grasp that when it's been obvious to me for I don't even know how many years now.
For the canes it is "the other shoe dropping". The run in the beginning was a happy surprise but now their weakness is showing from the off season moves.
@@XaqLiebling Sharks had a big winning streak last year too, I'm not too concerned that we will still get a top 5 pick this year. What this tells me mostly is next year might be really good and we might be ahead of schedule. Celebrini by himself is a game changer, especially after the trade deadline pieces might be sold
I’ve been a Sharks fan for nearly 2 decades now. I’ve never been so excited for this team, Celebrini brings a championship energy. The future looks bright.
As a sharks fan, we're still very realistic of where the team is. That said... This season so far has been "gravy". The buzz is growing, more tickets are being sold... They're being talked about (finally!!) on local sports radio. The sharks are the only bay area team that's on their way up.. the franchise has a big opportunity with that.
With the Jackets, Im definitely in the concerned column. BUT Im also happy we are doing well enough that i can even have enough expectations of the team to BE concerned. Its a strange feeling.
Another dad on my kid's bantam is is a huge Red Wing fan. Angry is a perfect spot for them. He is so flippin angry about Detroit right now. As a Sharks' fan, I just get a double-delight seeing the kids play well and seeing him rage!
Sorry but Pittsburgh is still panicking, and they should be. They are an awful team, and we aren’t fooled by a modest 4 game winning streak. Even one of those games we blew a 3 goal lead, and one of them we almost blew a 5-1 lead. The defense is terrible, might be the worst penguins defense core I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, and both goalies are over 3.00 GAA and under .900 sv%. That’s just absurdly bad.
If you've been watching the sharks and are a fan of hockey, even if you root for another team, it's hard not to jump on that bandwagon right now. They're fun to watch.
Dallas has played well recently, but Seguin out for the season while Robo and Johnston are still struggling in the Pavelski vacuum definitely warrants ok-at-best in the vibes category. We're all waiting for the trade deadline.
I hope so, when Georgie is in net, it could be 4 goals on five shots or 1 goal on 28 shots. He is the most inconsistent goalie in the league and I might need a new liver if he stays as the starter.
@@CamGoldberg3796 He's never close to Vezina. His wins are often the result of the Avs scoring 4+ goals. This season, he is actually negative on saves over expected. I think the Avs save % is 31st in the league. JA may have potential, but he also tends to give up early goals, and often does not stop the bleeding if he goes in in relief of Georgia. That is the same in reverse, too. Last night at least, Wedgewood came in cold, barely having time to introduce himself to the team after the trade, and shut the door for the rest of the game. You could see the Avs skaters gain confidence as the game progressed.
RE: Nashville~~~ trying to remember the last time any team broke the bank with contracts to high-value free agents and it actually worked out.. It's one thing to add a superstar in the offseason but spending dumptruck loads of money on several of them almost never works out. Hard to buy chemistry, as they say.
Closest would be St Louis in 2018, though the names were not as high profile. But that’s the reason when all the experts were picking Nashville I was a doubter. Even if you pick all the right players, it takes awhile to figure out where they will fit on your team. And that’s even ignoring that their pickups were older in an NHL that is constantly getting younger and faster
@@woodsie22 Agree, Predicted Nashville, in this forum, would be a " Bust " & they are. Took a lot of heat with my post, however one cannot expect superstar results from aging veterans.
With the Avs, I feel like they've been playing every first period with an empty net. And it's hard to be a defenseman when you don't feel your gt is solid back there.
As a Chicago fan, I’m flirting with anger only because we’ve seen that this team is *capable* of being competitive, but the inconsistency has been maddening-and for me, the coaching has been majorly head-scratching. Look, no one is picking Chicago for the playoffs. But with the way the team has showed it *can* play, and the number of leads the Hawks have taken into the third only to acquiesce and wind up losing, the fact of the matter is we should be significantly closer to a .500 team than we are. For a team that is desperate to find mojo where it can get it, these kinds of results have just been nightly gut punches.
The problem that I have with the Hawks is that they seem to think 5 wins more than last year will be a good improvement! Look at how quickly other teams are improving around them.
@@tomk.3428 No arguments here. I think they're going to start feeling that heat. Specifically, I think Richardson and the GM Davidson are going to start feeling it. Hawks fans are (kind of) patient. But they're not that patient.
As a sharks fan I concur! We are estatic which the growth and development of this team with high optimism because we still have 5-6 impact and players developing in the minors. on top of this next year Sharks have a huge amount of cap space. No playoffs this year… but it’s something we can seriously discuss for 25/26.
So. Avs need a goalie that is good enough. The goalie doesn't have to be lights out. Just good enough. Avs won with Kuemper, who's not exactly a lights out goalie. He was just good enough. And for Avs fans wanting Gibson, not gonna happen. He has a no trade clause and he's making 6.4 this season. Avs can't afford it and he has to approve the trade anyway
With Vancouver. I'm very happy. Considering all the injuries and all the players that have been in and out of the lineup, they've been able to stay afloat and stay in the hunt. DeBrusk has found his game. Pettersson is playing very well, and Quinn Hughes is doing well.
With the Avs: as a Devils fan, we watched our defense play very different last season, from a lack of goalie confidence, and it hurt all aspects of our game. Can’t send D in to pinch or press, can’t play free in the neutral zone, can’t be aggressive against forecheckers or guys coming across the line. Just hurts everything.
As a ducks fan, I would have probably put them one row down to Panic. Im just not convinced we’ve made a huge stride as apposed to last year. Our offense still feels weak, and we don’t have a clear Star. It just seems very boring, despite the young talent we have. We don’t have that one player who everyone is excited about and is making great plays every game. We are facing two playoff teams back to back, so goodbye to .500. That, and no news on trades despite having over 20 mil in cap space is frustrating. It feels like no one wants to come here.
I'm a Leafs' fan, who's overall happy. The Leafs have been a hearty hockey team, nothing glamorous playing a lunch pail gang style. If they keep working, keep getting wins, and bring this throughout to the playoffs, I'm happy.
I think you could make the argument that panic is the first stage of grief, it just passes to denial so quickly that it isn't counted or gets counted as part of denial.
I personally would've put the Isles in the Anger category. Lou's legendary passivity has singlehandedly put that team in the doldrums, and the fact that there's been zero indication that he's going anywhere has been drawing no small amount of ire from the Isles fanbase. The moves that need to be made simply aren't because Lou refuses to pull the trigger, and as long as he remains sitting in the GM seat, I don't see that team going anywhere.
Definitely know some fans that panicking a little as a Chicago fan, but as you said we were not expecting anything this season realistically. We wanted to be better than last year and have a better team which I think we did not by like 300% but we have improved and are still rebuilding
Definitely concerned for Carolina. Losing against the panthers and then being dominated by the kraken is not a good look. Things could be worse though. Coach rod didn’t seem too happy.
Right on with the jets. This has to change tonight. If they cant get at least 3 goals, not to mention a win, against buffalo tonight, im in panic mode. PERIOD!
With the atlantic, is it that Buffalo, Ottawa, Detroit and Montreal aren't getting any better, or is it that Florida, Tampa, Toronto and to a lesser degree Boston get better every year as "destination" clubs?
as a bruins fan, not Boston. You want hard playoffs, its a decent place (assuming they make it, tho im still skeptical) you want a tittle tho? go somewhere else, Bruins dont win championships.
Coming from a Blackhawks fan, I can say confidently that there is a lot of panic from the fan base. Sure we weren’t necessarily expected to be a playoff team, but at this point with all of the moves we made during the offseason, there was certainly an expectation for the team to take that next step forward. And they’ve showed it in a lot of games, including their losses this season that they can hang with some of the better teams in the NHL. And for them to be in last place in the overall standings right now?There’s definitely panic for the future of this organization.
As a Chicago fan, I basically agree with Shannon. With so many of our prospects playing in Rockford right now, it's hard to be too concerned. I just want Richardson to stick with a top line so Bedard can get comfortable with his linemates.
I'm a Bruins fan and watched tonight. The Blackhawks didn't win, but I saw a lot of quality play from them. Their defense corps looks like a thin spot, but overall there seems to be great potential for this team. Hang in there :-)
In the times of matchfixing in Polish football (a.k.a. "soccer") we had a coach here, who tasked with saving a particuarly weak team, used to say: "there's nothing to train here, we gotta make some calls" - meaning: I will call my contacts and see if we can fix some results. Seeing that little red phone in the bottom row always makes me crack a smile.
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. They mopped the floor with us. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
Minnesota should be one tier lower on this index as of December 4th for 2 reasons; 1) Jonas Brodin could very easily be out long term if he doesn’t find some back relief, he’s already been out more than 2 weeks. 2) Eriksson Ek could be out medium term after taking a knee on knee yesterday. He’s listed week to week Not even mentioning Zucc who is a few more weeks out, Jacub Lauko who is a few weeks out… Minnesota is basically on life support as far as their starting roster goes. This will test Hynes’ structure like it hasn’t been yet this year. If Gus wasn’t our starting goalie we might be a bubble team at this date, with some of the injuries we’ve accumulated. Hynes already should be looked at as a Adams candidate but if they get through these injuries and stay top 3 in the central he should basically be a heavy lock
i still think it's early enough in the season and considering they were a playoff team last year and they sort of upgraded over the off season smashville should be more in the anger category for attempting to buy chemistry which never works in hockey
I might put the Caps in the second row. They have been winning and they are better than last year. However, Ovi is out and while he has started skating, this is the most severe injury of his career. I think the goaltending has been pretty good, though not including the San Jose game, they have been allowing more goals as a team than I'd like to see. Maybe some anger with no Capital being selected for the 4 Nations Face-Off. They're leading the Metro for crying out loud!!
Thanks for the video! Mostly good but I think the Pens might be more concerned because even the four wins doesn't have them in contention. We'll see if you drop them down in a couple of weeks.
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
As a Leafs fan, how can anyone argue that I shouldn't be happy as Larry? Everything might come crashing down next week or worse, next playoffs but that happens every year. Worrying never helps. Gotta live in the moment.
Wings fan here, yeah lots of anger for sure but slipping into apathy. Until they start winning Little Caesars Arena isn’t getting any more of my money.
As a Flames fan, I'm happy. No one expected them to do anything this year and all I wanted was to see them be competitive. Even if they do fall off a cliff, we weren't supposed to be good this season anyway.
Great Video, as usual, Shannon - I think that we can pull My Chicago Blackhawks out of the waiting & move them into a bit of A Panic, given Chicago has Fired Luke Richardson. I don't know if you did this before the Chicago Coaching Change (I hope that you say).
As an Isles fan, I'm definitely in anger mode but never in waiting for a phone call mode. I have seen this team turn it around before and we are close to getting Barzal, Duclair, and Pelech back. If we can weather the storm for a little longer, look out.
I think the main question for the Islanders this year is: Is Cole Eiserman for real or is he Bellows & Wahlstrom chapter 3. If he's the real deal, and I hear he's doing pretty good in the NCAA, there's hope for the future. Does he play one more year in college or does he come up next year?
@TheHockeyGuy Shannon, I agree with almost everything you posted for you panic index. Only ones I'm wavering on not are the Kings (overachieving) and Avalanche (have the horses to improve in the standings)... 1000% agreement are where you put the Rangers. If they are not in panic mode, when will they? I say if they lose at least 2 of the next 3 games. I was already saying through the last 4 games through Monday's embarrassing loss to the Devils, still nothing has been done yet. Fan frustration will boil over if the Rangers drop ALL of their upcoming games to the Penguins, Kraken and Blackhawks. Sure is possible. And IF it does, it will get really really ugly. Maybe benchings, Chris Drury losing his job or Peter Laviolette losing his. I don't support a coaching change.
Honestly feels like the kings have been underachieving standings wise considering how many games they’ve lost against bottom feeder teams. They seem to play very well against top tier teams which is good
I don't know what psycho has Toronto out of the top row. They're top 5 in points percentage, I think tied for 5 when you made this video. Arguably the best goaltending tandem in the league. Defense looks solid. Matthews is back. This team is good
I’m not necessarily happy with the Bruins but I’m definitely a little relieved to be back over .500 My second favorite team in Columbus is SO much fun to watch these days, very hopeful for their future!
With the mindset of this finally being the drop off year for Boston, they haven’t been doing too bad minus a couple rough games. Still like their cores chance to turn it around
A scolding Homer Simpson face for the, “I’m disappointed in you boy!” category and the Rangers shield prominently and maybe permanently magnetized therein. Just a thought.
I understand the desire to have Chicago in the East, even if I can't find a realignment to do that that makes sense. However, no matter how you align the conferences, they will only be in one division.
The Red Wings are absolutely anger inducing right now. I've never seen a team of theirs with potential be so gutless night after night. Yzerman is looking more and more like a fraud.
Fla seems to be somewhat inconsistent. however I would not dismiss them by any means. Flyers are my team and I am not unhappy with them, actually I am slightly surprised. Too many missed opportunities from my point of view.
Panic Index video.. Classic choice, wearing THG Hat & H2G2 jersey. Just need a small NHL logo towel over the shoulder. (one of the small ones players wipe their visors with would work nicely.)
Thoughts...WPG. I think they are hitting a slide similar to what VGK did last year after an unsustainable start. The Jets don't have any obvious problems, so I think they'll pick it back up soon...On the other hand...CAR... 😒 ...What is so frustrating is that, while they seem to always have an embarrassment of riches on the front line, and often the back as well, they have never - NEVER - invested in top shelf goaltending. I like Kochetkov, but he's still a young guy. He needs to learn behind somebody more polished, and Andersen (when he's available) to me is not that guy...LAK. Man, whatever the Kings did after that sputtering start worked. Solid everywhere now...SJS. I was saying earlier in the season that once they got Celebrini chemically involved in the offense that it would, more than anything, change the way opponents' defenses play the Sharks - opening up far more holes at the net. The same way McDavid effs with defenses, Celebrini does the same. He'll be a fountain of assists going forward, and he has complimentary parts around him as well...I am done...
Definitely agree with Detroit being in Anger position. Can't PK, can't really defend, and the offense is mediocre on good nights. I cannot fathom this roster sometimes, and honestly even with a coaching change I don't know if there is even a "new coach bump". Downgrading from Walman and Gostisbhere to Petry and Gustaffson was a mistake. Edvinsson has been good with Seider, and it seems that Chairot and Holl have stabilized a little. Still need some improvements there. I am okay with the goaltending right now. But my primary concern is the PK and 5on5 offense. Not enough speed and forechecking. Lots of BS dump and pray/go for change boring hockey style and it is losing them games. I would not be surprised to see the Wings in the lottery, along with a negative view shift towards Yzerman at this point. He has had a lot of years to get things worked out, and I know there is a lot of talent in the minors and all that, but that does not help them now when it really matters.
as a leafs fan, the leafs definitely are not panicking. seems like berube lit a fire under their ass, well that and it being a contract year for tavares and marner, they're playing great.
Chicago is getting annoyed. They'll blow out Dallas 6-2, but then blow 2 goal leads and lose to Philly and Minnesota and blow 2-1 leads against San Jose and Anaheim, all those leads going into the 3rd period. I know this team isn't playoff worthy but come on they should be closer to .500 then they are now with this lineup. I will add an asterisk as 2024 overall for Chicago sports fans has been lets just say.... a bit rough
The Flyers should always be in the concerned slot, no matter how well they're doing. Sincerely, a cautiously optimistic Flyers fan with more cautiousness than optimism...
I'm on board with the Penguins placement. For one, pre christmas winstreaks are a Pens tradition and also... I think most Pens fans have kind of adjusted their expectations at this point. See where it goes this year, maybe kick the Rangers out of a playoff spot which would be very funny, maybe even make the playoffs, or not, then tank next year. It's all good =)
As far as the game in Calgary was concerned, CBJ looked to me like they hit the emotional wall; everything after that opening goal was taken off the board was just listless. I might've put them a row up until after the game tonight in Edmonton. That's the point at which I'll start being "concerned." Also, as a fan, who cares. This is already so much better than we ever expected. I might look back at this season with some objectivity in April. But for now, no panic whatsoever. The kids are making strides, Werenski is a dark horse Norris candidate. The defense is something like half a goal better in xGA than the past two seasons. Elvis' numbers aren't good but he's passing the eye test.
I have mild concern for Minnesota. There are some significant injuries piling up. But that said the underachievers are overachieving this year. It's still hard for me to believe that the team is as good as their record. Next year may be bonkers for the Wild!
Sorry Bardown, THG is the king of Panic Indexes
I watched that very TSN video and came away quite unimpressed particularly when compared to THG's own panic-index ones.
@@wainber1 corwin leaving just killed the vibe
Sorry, not sorry!
@@leogiancola8925totally.
Absolutely!
Tons of anger in Buffalo
I hope Richard Panik is doing well
He's kalm
"Ah Richard Panik, I haven't heard that name in a long time" -👴🏻
@@Retr-vc4wn "Of course I know him; he's me."
@@Retr-vc4wn
The Hawks could use him now.
Blackhawks legend Richard Panik
He could play on a line with Bedard and Teravainen right now!
I think your initial inclination with Winnipeg was correct: 3-7 in their last 10 with 4 straight losses with no significant changes in their roster health to explain such an implosion.
I think the losses of Ehlers and Samberg are alot more significant than what is being said... our PP doesn't work without Ehlers and the work Samberg does in the D zone makes a difference every single game he plays. He does the small things that go unnoticed.
We also have illness and other undisclosed injuries that haven't been made public at this point.
If you look at the Vegas and Dallas games, both games were tied until the last 10 mins of the games and our guys couldn't battle back after those teams took the lead. Think what needs to happen is if we are tied with 5 or less mins to spare, put our strongest D players out there on the ice and take it to OT. And if the goalie is pulled, once the boys score one, get the goalie back in. We could have built on that 3-1 last night if Helle was back in net instead of letting it go to 4-1.
@@phyllis5256 I agree with much of this, though I don't see much of the Jets. In particular, Ehlers is a key guy, period. I don't understand why people haven't seemed to grasp that when it's been obvious to me for I don't even know how many years now.
Dude you are awesome! So glad this channel popped up in my feed
For the canes it is "the other shoe dropping". The run in the beginning was a happy surprise but now their weakness is showing from the off season moves.
As a Sharks fan I'm panicking because we're winning games and we WERENT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT THIS YEAR
I was really hoping for a top 4 pick this year, then next year start showing progress. I feel like we're 2 years ahead of schedule
Sharks are still 4th last by points percentage, they could easily still pick top 5 next draft
If they win, let em ride, but sharks should avoid buying at the deadline..
I wish you'd give us a few wins as we can't do anything right now. From a jets fan
@@XaqLiebling Sharks had a big winning streak last year too, I'm not too concerned that we will still get a top 5 pick this year. What this tells me mostly is next year might be really good and we might be ahead of schedule. Celebrini by himself is a game changer, especially after the trade deadline pieces might be sold
Havent been this happy to be a sharks fan since 2019.
I’ve been a Sharks fan for nearly 2 decades now. I’ve never been so excited for this team, Celebrini brings a championship energy. The future looks bright.
Celebrini is better than Bedard and Canadians can fight me.
I'm a Capitals fan, whatever that's worth.
So bright you gotta wear shades.
The future is teal!
@@jacobeberhardt1649They are Canadian tho
@jacobeberhardt1649 Celebrini is Canadian too?
As a sharks fan, we're still very realistic of where the team is. That said... This season so far has been "gravy".
The buzz is growing, more tickets are being sold... They're being talked about (finally!!) on local sports radio.
The sharks are the only bay area team that's on their way up.. the franchise has a big opportunity with that.
Fun fact: panic is part of the bargaining phase
Lots my fellow Detroit fans doing a lot of bargaining right now.
With the Jackets, Im definitely in the concerned column. BUT Im also happy we are doing well enough that i can even have enough expectations of the team to BE concerned. Its a strange feeling.
Canes are collapsing. They need to get it together
Another dad on my kid's bantam is is a huge Red Wing fan. Angry is a perfect spot for them. He is so flippin angry about Detroit right now. As a Sharks' fan, I just get a double-delight seeing the kids play well and seeing him rage!
“Panic, the lost stage of grief” by Shannon Skanes
With the expectations Nashville had coming into this season I'd put them in anger/panic. Otherwise good board 👍.
I will say the mood in Philadelphia is pretty good right now
Sorry but Pittsburgh is still panicking, and they should be. They are an awful team, and we aren’t fooled by a modest 4 game winning streak. Even one of those games we blew a 3 goal lead, and one of them we almost blew a 5-1 lead. The defense is terrible, might be the worst penguins defense core I’ve ever seen in my lifetime, and both goalies are over 3.00 GAA and under .900 sv%. That’s just absurdly bad.
You’re going to beat the rangers too I fear
As a Sens fan, I was angry several years ago. I’m now utterly desperate.
If you've been watching the sharks and are a fan of hockey, even if you root for another team, it's hard not to jump on that bandwagon right now. They're fun to watch.
Dallas has played well recently, but Seguin out for the season while Robo and Johnston are still struggling in the Pavelski vacuum definitely warrants ok-at-best in the vibes category. We're all waiting for the trade deadline.
I'm hoping Dallas can make a deal before prices go up at the deadline
The Scott Wedgewood era has arrived in Denver.
I hope so, when Georgie is in net, it could be 4 goals on five shots or 1 goal on 28 shots. He is the most inconsistent goalie in the league and I might need a new liver if he stays as the starter.
@ Vézina or AHL
@@CamGoldberg3796 He's never close to Vezina. His wins are often the result of the Avs scoring 4+ goals. This season, he is actually negative on saves over expected.
I think the Avs save % is 31st in the league. JA may have potential, but he also tends to give up early goals, and often does not stop the bleeding if he goes in in relief of Georgia. That is the same in reverse, too.
Last night at least, Wedgewood came in cold, barely having time to introduce himself to the team after the trade, and shut the door for the rest of the game. You could see the Avs skaters gain confidence as the game progressed.
@timdowney6721 No. Its either Georgie plays like a Vezina candidate or like an AHL goalie. There's no in between
Haha!! 😂
I thought that Nashville would be playing better than this, considering what they added in the off-season.
RE: Nashville~~~ trying to remember the last time any team broke the bank with contracts to high-value free agents and it actually worked out.. It's one thing to add a superstar in the offseason but spending dumptruck loads of money on several of them almost never works out. Hard to buy chemistry, as they say.
Closest would be St Louis in 2018, though the names were not as high profile. But that’s the reason when all the experts were picking Nashville I was a doubter. Even if you pick all the right players, it takes awhile to figure out where they will fit on your team. And that’s even ignoring that their pickups were older in an NHL that is constantly getting younger and faster
Kind of reminds me of the Rangers deadline a couple years back when they added Kane and nobody gelled
@@woodsie22 Agree, Predicted Nashville, in this forum, would be a " Bust " & they are.
Took a lot of heat with my post, however one cannot expect superstar results from aging veterans.
With the Avs, I feel like they've been playing every first period with an empty net. And it's hard to be a defenseman when you don't feel your gt is solid back there.
Feeling is kinda mutual. Georgie doesn't trust the defense and he tries to hard.
@@soulknife20and vice versa. the second he is pulled they play a different game
yeah man like im getting frustrated with the ”bad d” argument. 5v5 theyre a top10 team in scoring chance%
@@Nathanielhiggerson66Yeah. It's a vicious circle.
@Nathanielhiggerson66 Overall yeah. But watching the games, they have the worst lapses at the wrong time.
As a brand new hockey fan, I'm really enjoying your content. Thank you!
As a Chicago fan, I’m flirting with anger only because we’ve seen that this team is *capable* of being competitive, but the inconsistency has been maddening-and for me, the coaching has been majorly head-scratching. Look, no one is picking Chicago for the playoffs. But with the way the team has showed it *can* play, and the number of leads the Hawks have taken into the third only to acquiesce and wind up losing, the fact of the matter is we should be significantly closer to a .500 team than we are. For a team that is desperate to find mojo where it can get it, these kinds of results have just been nightly gut punches.
The problem that I have with the Hawks is that they seem to think 5 wins more than last year will be a good improvement! Look at how quickly other teams are improving around them.
@@tomk.3428 No arguments here. I think they're going to start feeling that heat. Specifically, I think Richardson and the GM Davidson are going to start feeling it. Hawks fans are (kind of) patient. But they're not that patient.
As a sharks fan I concur! We are estatic which the growth and development of this team with high optimism because we still have 5-6 impact and players developing in the minors. on top of this next year Sharks have a huge amount of cap space. No playoffs this year… but it’s something we can seriously discuss for 25/26.
So. Avs need a goalie that is good enough. The goalie doesn't have to be lights out. Just good enough. Avs won with Kuemper, who's not exactly a lights out goalie. He was just good enough.
And for Avs fans wanting Gibson, not gonna happen. He has a no trade clause and he's making 6.4 this season. Avs can't afford it and he has to approve the trade anyway
Great stuff as always
I think, for this season at least, Utah deserves its own category as far as fans are concerned: Happy to Be Here.
With Vancouver. I'm very happy. Considering all the injuries and all the players that have been in and out of the lineup, they've been able to stay afloat and stay in the hunt. DeBrusk has found his game. Pettersson is playing very well, and Quinn Hughes is doing well.
Flames ahead of the oilers in the standings enough to make me happy lol
@@generalimlerith8356 as a Panthers fan, me too
That's how oil is supposed to burn!
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Go Flames Go!
@ hell yeah 🔥
With the Avs: as a Devils fan, we watched our defense play very different last season, from a lack of goalie confidence, and it hurt all aspects of our game. Can’t send D in to pinch or press, can’t play free in the neutral zone, can’t be aggressive against forecheckers or guys coming across the line. Just hurts everything.
As a ducks fan, I would have probably put them one row down to Panic. Im just not convinced we’ve made a huge stride as apposed to last year. Our offense still feels weak, and we don’t have a clear Star. It just seems very boring, despite the young talent we have. We don’t have that one player who everyone is excited about and is making great plays every game.
We are facing two playoff teams back to back, so goodbye to .500. That, and no news on trades despite having over 20 mil in cap space is frustrating. It feels like no one wants to come here.
SHARKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm a Leafs' fan, who's overall happy. The Leafs have been a hearty hockey team, nothing glamorous playing a lunch pail gang style. If they keep working, keep getting wins, and bring this throughout to the playoffs, I'm happy.
Watching this video after my team gets shut out by Montreal
I think you could make the argument that panic is the first stage of grief,
it just passes to denial so quickly that it isn't counted or gets counted as part of denial.
I personally would've put the Isles in the Anger category. Lou's legendary passivity has singlehandedly put that team in the doldrums, and the fact that there's been zero indication that he's going anywhere has been drawing no small amount of ire from the Isles fanbase. The moves that need to be made simply aren't because Lou refuses to pull the trigger, and as long as he remains sitting in the GM seat, I don't see that team going anywhere.
Lou and the special teams coaches have to go
Definitely know some fans that panicking a little as a Chicago fan, but as you said we were not expecting anything this season realistically. We wanted to be better than last year and have a better team which I think we did not by like 300% but we have improved and are still rebuilding
Definitely concerned for Carolina. Losing against the panthers and then being dominated by the kraken is not a good look. Things could be worse though. Coach rod didn’t seem too happy.
Right on with the jets. This has to change tonight. If they cant get at least 3 goals, not to mention a win, against buffalo tonight, im in panic mode. PERIOD!
Jets fans be like ✈️🔥☠️
With the atlantic, is it that Buffalo, Ottawa, Detroit and Montreal aren't getting any better, or is it that Florida, Tampa, Toronto and to a lesser degree Boston get better every year as "destination" clubs?
as a bruins fan, not Boston. You want hard playoffs, its a decent place (assuming they make it, tho im still skeptical) you want a tittle tho? go somewhere else, Bruins dont win championships.
LGW!!!! LETS GO WILD!!!!
Coming from a Blackhawks fan, I can say confidently that there is a lot of panic from the fan base. Sure we weren’t necessarily expected to be a playoff team, but at this point with all of the moves we made during the offseason, there was certainly an expectation for the team to take that next step forward. And they’ve showed it in a lot of games, including their losses this season that they can hang with some of the better teams in the NHL. And for them to be in last place in the overall standings right now?There’s definitely panic for the future of this organization.
As a Chicago fan, I basically agree with Shannon. With so many of our prospects playing in Rockford right now, it's hard to be too concerned. I just want Richardson to stick with a top line so Bedard can get comfortable with his linemates.
I'm a Bruins fan and watched tonight. The Blackhawks didn't win, but I saw a lot of quality play from them. Their defense corps looks like a thin spot, but overall there seems to be great potential for this team. Hang in there :-)
i would put flyers in happy because they have played well 😄
In the times of matchfixing in Polish football (a.k.a. "soccer") we had a coach here, who tasked with saving a particuarly weak team, used to say: "there's nothing to train here, we gotta make some calls" - meaning: I will call my contacts and see if we can fix some results. Seeing that little red phone in the bottom row always makes me crack a smile.
@5:25 THG asks "Is there anger in Nashville, is there panic in Nashville?" I dunno, but I can say there is no joy in Mudville.
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. They mopped the floor with us. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
Minnesota should be one tier lower on this index as of December 4th for 2 reasons;
1) Jonas Brodin could very easily be out long term if he doesn’t find some back relief, he’s already been out more than 2 weeks.
2) Eriksson Ek could be out medium term after taking a knee on knee yesterday. He’s listed week to week
Not even mentioning Zucc who is a few more weeks out, Jacub Lauko who is a few weeks out…
Minnesota is basically on life support as far as their starting roster goes.
This will test Hynes’ structure like it hasn’t been yet this year.
If Gus wasn’t our starting goalie we might be a bubble team at this date, with some of the injuries we’ve accumulated.
Hynes already should be looked at as a Adams candidate but if they get through these injuries and stay top 3 in the central he should basically be a heavy lock
i still think it's early enough in the season and considering they were a playoff team last year and they sort of upgraded over the off season smashville should be more in the anger category for attempting to buy chemistry which never works in hockey
Ek is week to week. Wild fans are entering the panic zone
Brodin, Zucc, Ek all weeks out. No way we’re on the top of this chart. Tier 2 or 3 easily
I might put the Caps in the second row. They have been winning and they are better than last year. However, Ovi is out and while he has started skating, this is the most severe injury of his career. I think the goaltending has been pretty good, though not including the San Jose game, they have been allowing more goals as a team than I'd like to see. Maybe some anger with no Capital being selected for the 4 Nations Face-Off. They're leading the Metro for crying out loud!!
_Teams in PANIC or ANGER:_
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😡 11:05
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Find myself overly distracted with a desire to find that Mythbusters Bull in a china shop clip.
Colorado is the Panickiest of all panic right now
Thanks for the video! Mostly good but I think the Pens might be more concerned because even the four wins doesn't have them in contention. We'll see if you drop them down in a couple of weeks.
Thank you.
Hey! Don't panic! Love the sweater Shannon! Where'd you pick that up? I might have to grab one for myself. I love Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
I would consider bargaining to be the panic aspect in the stages of grief
Carolina fan- concern mainly in net but I just felt like we didn’t really play well at all against Seattle. We’ll see what happens when Colorado comes to town.
The Canes were worse than awful against the Kraken but a correct call on goalie interference and the final score is probably 4-2 Carolina.
@ precisely. Goaltending is always a major concern with this team it seems
You're NOT old. From a 77.
As a Leafs fan, how can anyone argue that I shouldn't be happy as Larry? Everything might come crashing down next week or worse, next playoffs but that happens every year. Worrying never helps. Gotta live in the moment.
As a Wings fan I can confirm.. ANGERY
Wings fan here, yeah lots of anger for sure but slipping into apathy. Until they start winning Little Caesars Arena isn’t getting any more of my money.
As a Flames fan, I'm happy. No one expected them to do anything this year and all I wanted was to see them be competitive. Even if they do fall off a cliff, we weren't supposed to be good this season anyway.
Great Video, as usual, Shannon - I think that we can pull My Chicago Blackhawks out of the waiting & move them into a bit of A Panic, given Chicago has Fired Luke Richardson. I don't know if you did this before the Chicago Coaching Change (I hope that you say).
As an Isles fan, I'm definitely in anger mode but never in waiting for a phone call mode. I have seen this team turn it around before and we are close to getting Barzal, Duclair, and Pelech back. If we can weather the storm for a little longer, look out.
I think the main question for the Islanders this year is: Is Cole Eiserman for real or is he Bellows & Wahlstrom chapter 3. If he's the real deal, and I hear he's doing pretty good in the NCAA, there's hope for the future. Does he play one more year in college or does he come up next year?
@@RRaquello Give him one more year. He will be a good one.
@TheHockeyGuy Shannon, I agree with almost everything you posted for you panic index. Only ones I'm wavering on not are the Kings (overachieving) and Avalanche (have the horses to improve in the standings)... 1000% agreement are where you put the Rangers. If they are not in panic mode, when will they? I say if they lose at least 2 of the next 3 games. I was already saying through the last 4 games through Monday's embarrassing loss to the Devils, still nothing has been done yet. Fan frustration will boil over if the Rangers drop ALL of their upcoming games to the Penguins, Kraken and Blackhawks. Sure is possible. And IF it does, it will get really really ugly. Maybe benchings, Chris Drury losing his job or Peter Laviolette losing his. I don't support a coaching change.
Honestly feels like the kings have been underachieving standings wise considering how many games they’ve lost against bottom feeder teams. They seem to play very well against top tier teams which is good
@@unique_package5370 Your expectations of the Kings is way too high.
I don't know what psycho has Toronto out of the top row. They're top 5 in points percentage, I think tied for 5 when you made this video. Arguably the best goaltending tandem in the league. Defense looks solid. Matthews is back. This team is good
THANKS
I’m not necessarily happy with the Bruins but I’m definitely a little relieved to be back over .500
My second favorite team in Columbus is SO much fun to watch these days, very hopeful for their future!
sharks fan here and im happy as hell.
The Islanders are treading water until Barzal, Duclair and Pelech are back
That's only part of their problems. Lou has badly mismanaged the cap and traded all prospects away.
im waiting for chicago draft pick but at this point that will probs be blacked out too
With the mindset of this finally being the drop off year for Boston, they haven’t been doing too bad minus a couple rough games. Still like their cores chance to turn it around
A scolding Homer Simpson face for the, “I’m disappointed in you boy!” category and the Rangers shield prominently and maybe permanently magnetized therein. Just a thought.
I haven’t started the video yet, but as a preds fan we are past panic and are actively angry
I understand the desire to have Chicago in the East, even if I can't find a realignment to do that that makes sense. However, no matter how you align the conferences, they will only be in one division.
The Red Wings are absolutely anger inducing right now. I've never seen a team of theirs with potential be so gutless night after night. Yzerman is looking more and more like a fraud.
What an awesome Jersey!
Fla seems to be somewhat inconsistent. however I would not dismiss them by any means. Flyers are my team and I am not unhappy with them, actually I am slightly surprised. Too many missed opportunities from my point of view.
Great channel. Go Sharks!
Panic Index video.. Classic choice, wearing THG Hat & H2G2 jersey.
Just need a small NHL logo towel over the shoulder. (one of the small ones players wipe their visors with would work nicely.)
Thoughts...WPG. I think they are hitting a slide similar to what VGK did last year after an unsustainable start. The Jets don't have any obvious problems, so I think they'll pick it back up soon...On the other hand...CAR... 😒 ...What is so frustrating is that, while they seem to always have an embarrassment of riches on the front line, and often the back as well, they have never - NEVER - invested in top shelf goaltending. I like Kochetkov, but he's still a young guy. He needs to learn behind somebody more polished, and Andersen (when he's available) to me is not that guy...LAK. Man, whatever the Kings did after that sputtering start worked. Solid everywhere now...SJS. I was saying earlier in the season that once they got Celebrini chemically involved in the offense that it would, more than anything, change the way opponents' defenses play the Sharks - opening up far more holes at the net. The same way McDavid effs with defenses, Celebrini does the same. He'll be a fountain of assists going forward, and he has complimentary parts around him as well...I am done...
Definitely agree with Detroit being in Anger position. Can't PK, can't really defend, and the offense is mediocre on good nights. I cannot fathom this roster sometimes, and honestly even with a coaching change I don't know if there is even a "new coach bump". Downgrading from Walman and Gostisbhere to Petry and Gustaffson was a mistake. Edvinsson has been good with Seider, and it seems that Chairot and Holl have stabilized a little. Still need some improvements there. I am okay with the goaltending right now. But my primary concern is the PK and 5on5 offense. Not enough speed and forechecking. Lots of BS dump and pray/go for change boring hockey style and it is losing them games. I would not be surprised to see the Wings in the lottery, along with a negative view shift towards Yzerman at this point. He has had a lot of years to get things worked out, and I know there is a lot of talent in the minors and all that, but that does not help them now when it really matters.
as a leafs fan, the leafs definitely are not panicking. seems like berube lit a fire under their ass, well that and it being a contract year for tavares and marner, they're playing great.
Chicago is getting annoyed. They'll blow out Dallas 6-2, but then blow 2 goal leads and lose to Philly and Minnesota and blow 2-1 leads against San Jose and Anaheim, all those leads going into the 3rd period.
I know this team isn't playoff worthy but come on they should be closer to .500 then they are now with this lineup.
I will add an asterisk as 2024 overall for Chicago sports fans has been lets just say.... a bit rough
Buffalo blowing a 4-0 lead is peak Lindy Ruff.
Kings in the top row! I love it.
the phone represents teams like Buffalo who just phone it in.....
Have The 'Nucks play the five-game home stand in the Rink on Renfrew! It can't possibly make things any worse!
The Flyers should always be in the concerned slot, no matter how well they're doing. Sincerely, a cautiously optimistic Flyers fan with more cautiousness than optimism...
On behalf of Detroit Red Wings fans, I can confirm that we are indeed in the anger category. 😅
I'm on board with the Penguins placement. For one, pre christmas winstreaks are a Pens tradition and also... I think most Pens fans have kind of adjusted their expectations at this point. See where it goes this year, maybe kick the Rangers out of a playoff spot which would be very funny, maybe even make the playoffs, or not, then tank next year. It's all good =)
As far as the game in Calgary was concerned, CBJ looked to me like they hit the emotional wall; everything after that opening goal was taken off the board was just listless. I might've put them a row up until after the game tonight in Edmonton. That's the point at which I'll start being "concerned." Also, as a fan, who cares. This is already so much better than we ever expected. I might look back at this season with some objectivity in April. But for now, no panic whatsoever. The kids are making strides, Werenski is a dark horse Norris candidate. The defense is something like half a goal better in xGA than the past two seasons. Elvis' numbers aren't good but he's passing the eye test.
As a Wings fan, yeah we're getting angry.
I have mild concern for Minnesota. There are some significant injuries piling up. But that said the underachievers are overachieving this year. It's still hard for me to believe that the team is as good as their record. Next year may be bonkers for the Wild!