The biggest thing I hate about how Brooke was treated is that she wasn’t learning from a proper teacher. Abby wasn’t a contortionist yet pushed Brooke to bend and stretch her body not knowing the true mechanics of it. Had Brooke learned from a contortionist or proper mentor I don’t think she’d have faced as many issues, which is just awful.
Yes, thank you for this comment. So many people are afraid that contortion will ruin your body, but that’s only if you are being incorrectly trained and aren’t given rest days.
I could’ve sworn that Abby was more so a gymnastics coach hence why in not all but a lot of their dances all the girls are doing some form of gymnastics and contortion moves.
@@tiamarrow6366 yes. her favourite style (and what she's best at teaching) is acro. however, acro is not contortion - smn abby has yet to realise. abby actually only really teaches flexibility in the legs of her students; she clearly knows hardly anything about contortion as a style (which is evident in how she treats - not only - brooke, but dancers like kalani, brynn and lilliana). even w acro, u can tell that her understanding of it is limited and that her preference for it comes from her liking to work w pre-adolescents most and her need to fill her dances w constant tricks. smn people seem to forget is that abby was never the seasoned-professional that she made out. her mother ran the studio whilst she watched from the sidelines, then she dropped out of school at 14 to take over running it - she has no real formal education in dance and was never even a dancer herself; her knowledge mostly extends to just having-watched her mother teach growing up... which is not enough to run a dance studio, but i digress. she literally ran the studio into the ground (eventually filing for bankruptcy) and her studio was a constant revolving door of clientele - most leaving by the time theyre teens, anyway. her choreography is immensely-lacking and she cannot support the talents of students more advanced than your average cute kid just wanting to cartwheel around a stage; hence why she'd bring in incredible dancers like brynn, kalani, camryn and the season 8 team and be unable to win w them. tl;dr - youre correct. furthermore, abby's really only suited to teaching acro, jazz and trick-heavy dances to younger children. anything more difficult and she cannot handle it - hence her always readying to blame the kids for her failures. she's not at all suited to teaching a style like contortion and it's honestly-horrifying imagining the damage she's done to other flexible kids that have come through her studio - at one point in season 3, she literally remarks that it was fine for asia and nia to go on stage unstretched, whilst doing a dance that involved loads of tricks and gymnastics moves
It is so heartbreaking seeing how much Brooke suffered probably the most out of any of the girls because of the amount of acro moves. She was constantly doing.
abby has this weird “show must go on” attitude which maybe comes in handy in certain situations but these are little girls. abby’s teaching methods are full of flaws and it clearly shows in the girls, especially brooke. you’d think a dance teacher would know how to deal with dance-related injuries
Brooke’s injuries are wild! The fact that adults were allowing her to do such flexible movements knowing about her injuries and pain level is really sickening.
ITS DISGUSTING. Not once Abby gave her a lyric dance nor something else like musical theatre . After what the chiropractor said that she would be able to walk again if she kept doing it acro no one cared .
@@lo3497 it’s called a contract, the show was originally going to be a few episodes but it became a series and they all were locked into a contract for 6 seasons. Kelly was able to get out of the contract because of the physical fight between her and Abby.
I’m surprised Maddie’s famous fall on the gym floor wasn’t mentioned. They made it sound like a serious fall when actually she immediately got up and finished the routine.
I’m a licensed occupational therapist. I’ve worked with clients with repetitive stress injuries of the upper extremities (shoulder, elbow, wrists, and hands) in the past. Seeing Brooke’s shoulder dislocate on camera makes my stomach churn. Compared to the other joints in your body, your shoulder joint sucks. That joint is basically hanging on by those ligaments and tendons, and though it allows for excellent range of motion, it’s pretty unstable and susceptible to injury. Stretching them out past a certain point, you would most likely need surgery and intensive therapies from an upper extremity (hand) therapist. I’m just baffled that she never received rest or the proper therapies for her shoulder. And she also fractured THREE growth plates?!? A break, or even just inflammation, of one growth plate is serious enough. But THREE??? I wonder how much taller Brooke would be if she received the proper treatment. Gosh, I feel SO bad for Brooke. 😢
@@kelsey2333 there's also childhood pictures before it happened where both of them were really similar heights and body types, so she probably would have been tall like her
@@overgrownkudzu yeah but fortunately brooke would be gorgeous at any height!!!! I actually type more curvy petite body type like brooke....but being tall and thin is what they want for models typically. Both body types and brooke and paige are gorgeous in their own ways
Yes! I injured my shoulder when I was sixteen, went through PT and surgery and it’s never been the same. You don’t realize how much your shoulder is connected to either. They actually treated my neck for a couple months before realizing it was a torn labrum in my shoulder. Unlike other joint injuries I’ve had, my shoulder will make everything around it hurt. Neck, back, chest, pain down the arm, etc. and you use it CONSTANTLY. Like you said, even when your resting it’s still taking on the weight of your arm unless it’s supported. I can’t imagine how much pain she was in and what she’s going through now. Insane.
I was a level 10 gymnast. I trained 5 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. I had knee surgery for an OCD lesion, and had a stress fracture in my L5 vertebrae that I had for 3 years before going to the doctor. My back will never heal and to this day I can't lay certain ways, run long enough and even cross my legs or they'll get numb. Not to mention the emotional elements that still effect me to this day. Being told to suck it up and to not cry and constantly doing exercises that terrified me. I would even fake being sick when I was younger because I was so scared of beam. I remember the shame I felt when I had to tell my coaches that I was sick or injured. Actual shame, for saying I was hurt. And the MANY times I would compete and train on broke toes and fingers. I quit in my junior year of high school, but I lowkey still have ptsd. I feel so much for what these girls went through. Absolutely awful.
If the production contracts didn’t care about physical harm to everyone, it makes sense why the producers would try to get Kelly to come back to the studio after the fight with Abby.
it's so scary to see how much Brooke's acrobatic talents were exploited by Abby and the producers - this is why contortion/acro is usually reserved for seasoned professionals or younger dancers.
I had the extra navicular bone in my foot like Kenzie does. Anytime I would sprain or strain my ankle, it would take much longer to heal because of the pressure the extra bone puts on the tendons around it. I ended up breaking that navicular bone during a triathlon and wasn't smart enough to stop. This caused me to have to have the bone removed, the real navicular shaved, and the posterior tibial tendon reshaped. I was non-weight bearing for 3 months and in a boot for another 2 months. When I saw Kenzie have the same issues, I wanted to cry for her. An extra bone sounds really ridiculous and not that big of a deal. But the stupid thing caused me issues until I had it removed.
I developed this born too due to all the ballet I did whilst a kid… it was so painful sometimes, now I’m no longer dancing I haven’t had so many issues with it
3:01 My dance teachers always tell us that they are not allowed to let us dance if injured until we are cleared with a doctors note because it’s a liability, and they can get in serious trouble for that so this should almost definitely be illegal or have some consequence against the producers
I’m COMPLETELY amazed at how well ALL THESE AWESOME GIRLS turned out. That show was so TOXIC, from Abby to production crew, that it’s a wonder that not one of them has SNAPPED!! I LOVE ALL THE GIRLS AND AM SO PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM!!! ❤❤❤❤ And I’m obsessed with your vids!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
this is why i don’t like when people encourage melissa’s actions on the show. christi and the other moms on the show have said that melissa would do anything to get her daughter ahead. she was living through her daughters and the lengths she took to reach her goal is so sad sometimes.
Why can’t both be wrong and both be right? Christi has said she is not proud of who she was in the show. They both did really messed up things and I bet wish they could redo.
@@elizabethparvin6090 I have never heard Melissa acknowledge or apologize about the things she did towards Chloe vs Christi where she acknowledged her behavior and apologized several times.
I would like you to investigate possible prescription medication abuse by Abby in seasons 5-7. Her behavior is way too drastically different, especially comparing season 1 Abby to season 5 Abby where she’s dumping her purse all over the floor, and showing up “out of it” to competitions.
It’s insane to me that all the adults around Brooke let her go through so much pain just for the show. I’m not only talking about the producers and Abby, Kelly was told many times that her daughter’s health was at risk if she kept doing the routines they gave her and she let her do it. I don’t care if she was under contract, that’s her daughter’s health. She chose not to break a damn contract over Brooke’s well being.
This show proves how greedy the rich are most of the time. Sacrificing little kids physically and mental health for a few extra coins in the bank? Absolutely descipable and vile.
shows like toddlers and tiaras tend to do the same thing too. children have always been expl0ited in the media and it makes me sick. how can they even sleep at night :((
OMG I'm excited!!!! This is one of the few TH-cam series that I get so stoked about!! How you go through all the research work of finding these unknown details to give to us is amazing!!!! You are THE dance moms truth channel!
A lot of people are saying that there sad Brooke quit dance but I’m glad she did because just like she said here in the video if she continued to do her tricks she probably wouldn’t have been able to walk by the time she was an adult. I just can’t imagine doing something so many times to the point where it has a huge affect on the body that there would be a possibility that you couldn’t walk by the time your an adult. So to those saying that they wished Brooke didn’t quit or are sad about it it’s a good thing she did cause she probably wouldn’t be walking around to this day if she hadn’t.
If they’re not responsible for injuries, there’s no way they should have continued working injured. Abby included. Brooke’s injuries have had permanent damage to her body
Maddie’s stress injury wasn’t the first time we heard about it. It all makes sense when Melissa said maybe Maddie had a similar disorder as Nia I think in s2 or s3 she mentioned it very briefly.
I think she said something not like “I’m surprised Maddie doesn’t have it then” when Holly said that it’s tied to Type A (perfectionist) behavior. She didn’t actually think Maddie had that; she just wanted to make sure everyone “remembered” how much Maddie was a perfectionist. I hate how this show was so manipulative and harmed all the kids physically and emotionally forever. But I think one of the most real things was how much Melissa would do anything for her girls and how much she bragged on them especially Maddie. I don’t think any producer had to spin that or push her to do that.
@@tonicox4005 in the video it literally said she was diagnosed in s1-2 so I think she was trying to bring it up and to relate it to Nia not to take attention away from nias injury.
@@N84Lyfe not with the same thing Nia had though! A repetitive strain injury is not the same as the thing Nia had (I can't remember the name but didn't it cause her to be unable to even walk?)
Honestly, Brooke fought hard to try and keep Abby off of her neck along with pushing herself to perform with all the injuries she had. She just wanted to be a teenager but instead she was rushing her own growth by contorting and straining herself even when she felt like she couldn’t get through a solo. Abby’s mentality of the show must go on is somewhat correct, I can see where her mind is but her pushing this mentality so hard that a dance student had to struggle that much is sort of worrying.
The only quibble I have with this video is the “having to go to competitions while injured”, it may be a studio requirement and not the producers. I did competitive cheerleading for most of life and every squad I was on had a rule that if you were injured and couldn’t participate you still had to attend every game/competition and sit on the sidelines. I was never injured, but there were plenty of times girls were on the sidelines with boots or crutches or casts.
I think this more so had to do with the show making a big deal about the girls being injured and unable to dance rather than actually going to the competitions as a team.
I really do think Paige’s accident affected her dancing drastically especially her technique , if that not had happened and with a little more love from her teacher , I think Paige could have been the Maddie off the team i really do believe that
I’ve seen a few times it mentioned that Paige was Maddie’s competition before the show which makes sense given if Abby thought she was such a weak dancer then why was she in the trio with Chloe and Maddie regularly even before the show when she could’ve chosen someone ‘stronger’
1:05 Paige is seen doing backtucks on the dance floor which is another hard surface in her routines all the time. Brooke may have grace but she had injuries
Even though it wasn’t discussed in the episode,the crew filming Taylor (CADC dancer) crying in pain after breaking her ankle in the Ode to a Clown dance was just terrible of them to do
It all just seems so pointless, too. Like they couldn't have spun an injury/ER trip to be dramatic enough for the show, while still getting the CHILDREN proper medical care? Like did they really think they would lose a bunch of viewership if they let them go to the effing hospital? I just don't get the logic.
None of this is surprising but there should have been laws and regulations in place for these kinds of things I mean destroying someone’s back to the point of them potentially not being able to walk is so unconscionable and this is where things need to be put in place
Oh I have the shoulder thing too. So I know what that feels like. I am by nature hypermobile. I've always been mindful of my back and shoulders when it comes to flexibility, cause they're super sensitive to permanent injuries due to my hypermobility. Cause I do like stretching and being flexible. Just a tip for anyone doing flexibility training: Make sure that whatever place you wanna improve flexibility, you also improve strength. Or else that place, especially joints, will become too flexible and your strength isn't enough to support the flexibility anymore. It's a real issue. I've never done any training on my shoulders, but one of my should also dislocates my simply putting it up, and it still sometimes pops in very painful ways while moving. My left shoulder has been sprained badly before. It's also super sensitive to dislocating bc of that. And I have similar, but less severe issues in places like my hips, my ankles, my back and even my wrists and fingers. I can't imagine the crap Brooke has had to go through with her body. It's sad how so much overuse can cause such severe damage permanently.
probably why she let brooke do the back tuck and not paige is because brooke was more experienced and confident with her standing backs, whereas paige had probably just learned it and hadn’t perfected it
I think Brooke would have been okay to dance after a significant rest as long as she didn't do acro because that was the thing screwing up her back & shoulders like the stuff she was doing was amazing but the human body is not meant to do that. When she's old she's probably really going to suffer
1:05 Abby kn9ws both girls strengths and weaknesses-Brooke was best at acro-, Paige was younger and hasn’t perfected her technique-that’s why she’d allow Brooke n nor paige
That just doesn’t make sense though because she had some a standing back tuck in every routine that she won like make some noise, honey bun, people, I mean she had it perfected before the show even begin
Paige always had a back tuck on the show even before that episode. I think Abby told another kid and was edited to make it seem Paige was at risk one. Chloe was seen about to flip.
This! I’m curious to know how schooling was done after the move to L.A. all the girls except the Zieglers were in regular school. I’m most curious about Nia bc Holly does not play when it comes to education
1:06. I am not an expert, but Brooke might have been taught on how to do back standing tuck and land it safely for years as she does Acro and has specialised whereas Paige’s specialty was more jazz/funk. Having said that, that scene shows cement flooring which would have been risky and not just landing on their feet correctly, if there was any hesitation, there might have been a risk of a concussion if the girls landed on their heads. I am not trying to defend the situation, but from the looks and sound of it, there is not a lot of information.
@@N84Lyfe That is true, but I am wondering if there is a significant difference in terms of landing on a crash mat compared to a stage and does the hardness of a stage translate to concrete?
@@moonwalkerangel7008 definitely but she did her tuck in teachings and on stage the ground they were on was a carpet made of cement but the point is she had it.
Please do an Uncovered episode about panic attacks - specifically ones that weren't recognised. For example, the first episode (I think) where Maddie is "sick", I honestly think that was a panic attack because of all the cameras she wasn't used to because she never missed dance before or afterwards and the way she acts is very similar to how she acted other times she panicked like when she forgot her dance or when she fell on the floor during her dance (also surprised you didn't include in this video the fact that when Maddie fell on her butt, she actually completed her dance, unlike what they showed on the show!)
I’m honestly convinced Brooke has Ehler’s Danlos Syndrome with her hyper mobility and the kind of injuries she’d get. I have eds and my joints will pop out at the most random inopportune times, my feet, ankles, wrists, and shoulders are the worst. When I was young I could do all kinds of contortions without any issues and now opening a bottle of water or standing up from a sitting position cause my joints to pop out.
Just because you have it doesnt mean that anyone else who has similar issues to you has it too if she hasnt already been diagnosed with it by an actual medical professional she doesnt have it point blank
@@midnight_x_edits And you know she doesn’t have it how? I’m not sitting here saying I’m a doctor or making some medical diagnosis, I’m stating that I think it’s POSSIBLE based on things that happened to here compared my personal experiences. Eds affects gymnasts, contortionists, and dancers on such a regular basis that it’s sometimes referred to Cirque du Solei disease. The thing is, eds often gets misdiagnosed because, unless you have the rarer forms, there is no definitive testing. As Dr. Holly said “I’m entitled to my opinion just like you’re entitled to your wrong one”
So in terms of AUDC, Jordyn said on her podcast with Asia that the producers told Jordyn and her mom that she was winning the show which is why she got the biggest bedroom. So the producers either planned it out that Jordyn would be eliminated, or they just wanted drama so they did the flexibility challenge. Like why would you eliminate the “winner” of the show like that, if it wasn’t to create drama?
Reality TV involving children should be some kind of child labor violation imo. These poor kids should be allowed to rest and enjoy their lives, not worry about being forced to work through injuries or stuck in contracts they aren't even old enough to sign.
Unfortunately in my experience these kinds of things happen even when your not in front of a camera, I broke my foot a few years ago, and a danced on it for three days before I even went to the doctor because I didn’t have a doctor note. Even when I was in a boot I also had to go to classes and comps
The scene where Paige does the back tuck, Abby was looking out for her, she told her not to do it because there was cement underneath the carpet but Kelly said well do it I want to eat my lunch. So Paige listened to her mother and not her dance teacher like Abby knew Paige wasn’t going to nail it and she knew Paige was going to be injured either way.
Possibly but some people are predisposed/prone to injury. Kalani isn’t an OG ALDC dancer so it may also be technique/Abby’s teaching method affecting it.
@@goeticfolklore yeah but she had to have some sort of back injury right? dance really does a number on your body and considering the other physical issues kalani had during the show it might be a possibility
@@N84Lyfe Not saying she never had an injury I don't know. However, by the time Kalani was in S4, they were beginning to get stricter regarding labor laws for reality TV. Henceforth, the OG girls likely worked more hours.
@@lookoutforthelittleguy I'm sure she had some form of injury every athlete does. If her issues were as severe as Brooke's could only be verified by herself.
I’m with brook here I have a dislocated shoulder and it pos out and pops in sometimes i can control it sometimes not I’m so happy to see somebody who was gone through it to
Paige: I want to do my standing back tuck Abby: no don't do it and it is cement underneath this carpet like, Abby knew Paige was going to injure herself Kelly: I want to eat my lunch me: like really abby told her not to do it and christi blamed abby when she was in the right telling her not to do it.
Love your channel btw I have an episode idea can you do a video about the minis from season 6 unpopular opinion I loved the minis I’d love to know some background info
it's screwed up how common it is to force child athletes to work through injuries throughout all sports. they really ruin kids' bodies to the point where many have to retire from a sport they dedicated their entire childhoods to in their 20s. (sometimes at the expense of their childhoods too)
Can you please do a dance moms uncovered about the mini team? who's idea was it, behind the scenes, Things that happened off camera, why Peyton Evans left, why the whole team left, etc?
I was a dancer and I've had surgery on my Achilles tendon twice and pop my shoulders and hips out on a pretty regular basis. Like Brooke I have loose ligaments and was a contortionist, and also a pointe dancer
I agree with your comment. However, that was why the contracts had a clause that stated that production were not responsible for injuries, accidents, illness or death.
The idea of this is outrageous. C.p.s. Would/should have stepped in. The idea of not being able to take Paige to the doctor until filming is over is ridiculous. Poor parenting skills and misplaced priorities.
It's show that they weren't allowed to take any kind of bracks from dance cus the porders wanted the show to run like a Broadway show but without a under study and that's a shame on them for doing that to the kids
I know this isn't dance but my son was an All Star Baseball player and did football and basketball as well. When John had an injury immediately his Dad took over and we dictated what would happen after. We didn't sign a contract of course but I don't understand how these moms would sign again and again knowing what would happen. I would pull my kid before I signed up again and again. I think these Moms have enabled this to a point. Ify child was hurt you could forget about it. Don't sign the contract.
I wonder how Abby would of been if producers weren’t so toxic and instigating fights how different things would of turned out cuz that episode of them at the gym inside of a school where Paige had won it was like a different show
Probably the same. People have come out with issues with Abby that took place before dance moms and how she would body shame the girls and post their weight on a board for everyone to see. She was always a pretty crappy person.
Plus while the producers are HORRIBLE Abby said horrible things off camera and made racist remarks off camera. The procedures even had to edit out Abby telling Christy to fix Chloe's eye because even THEY thought that was too far.
The fact that Abby instructed the girls to do backtucks sounds like a form of abuse. It seems like she forced the girls to do it on purpose. The fact that she threatened them to do it is sadistic and is clearly a form of child abuse.
I feel like these moms never actually knew their rights. as if producers actually have the power to stop you from taking your child to the hospital. they can only "force" you to do something if you give them the power to.
You may have already done a video on this, but can I uncover Kira and kalani threatening to leave after she was pulled from the group dance and Alexa taught her a solo?
I know it’s not right, but I don’t feel this is shocking, I’ve grown up in a competitive dance world and competing injured isn’t uncommon and really just life over here in the uk. We had a girl pull out ligaments at a competition, she was in a knee brace for 9 months and still finished the day of competition before she went to the hospital. Children dance in braces/casts/boots/supports ALL THE TIME is it not like that in the US? As a child I once fell and broke my arm on the Thursday and didn’t go to the hospital until Monday so I could attend the two day majorettes competition that weekend and if it was in a cast then wouldn’t have been able to twirl. Think I was about 15 though so older then the kids on the show
When did she miss out on nationals? I know she was kicked off in season 3 Nationals, but that was not due to injury. If it was in season 4, she was in a boot but she did dance at Nationals.
She missed out on the s. 4 dance concert not the nationals competition. Some people have said it was over exaggerated by the producers to provide an explanation why Chloe was not in the dance concert ( she was excluded from the photo shoot for the program book months before that).
these are all absolutely horrible :( I’m no medical professional and in *no way* suggesting that this is the case for Brooke, but I have a connective tissue disorder (and am very very hypermobile) and used to get injured running and doing other sports constantly- and feel so fortunate that it was taken seriously and I was told to stop doing things that would make it progressively worse- and connective tissue disorder or not, pushing anyone through pain, much less a CHILD, is absolutely sick.
You are the only one thinking that im sure she’s seen numerous medical professionals hasnt been diagnosed with it and plus shes already an adult ED is smthn your diagnosed with as a CHILD like a literal infant
I’ve been binge watching all your videos and everytime the picture of them on the bicycles pops up in the beginning I crack up cause everyone knows Abby don’t look like that! Not saying anything about her weight she’s just not shaped like that!😂😂😂
Hello MackZBoss! Do you think you can do an episode on what really happened on season 4 episode 9. The episode the Hylands leave. I am currently watching it and wonder what had really happened that day. I curious on what was staged and what the producers planned.
It honestly and sadly doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. In the competitive world this is sometimes just how it is. (It’s 100% wrong) but I did competitive cheer and my body was ruined by age 15. I’m 22 now and I suffer so much chronic joint pain throughout my entire body. I had so many injuries that never quite healed that I still trained and competed on. Being an athlete is very hard. Adults really overtrain children and run them into the ground.
I have loose ligaments too…can’t believe this kid danced thru all that pain. I have very bad muscular-skeletal issues and a chronic pain disorder. I know how Brooke feels…..i have problems with my knees and ankles dislocating…I can’t believe Abby continued to give her Acro dances knowing she’s messing up this little girls body…
I don’t care who you are or what contracts are in place. You take your kid to the hospital when that sort of injury happens. That’s a major misstep from Kelly.
@@allisonkrueger8330 But the judge would have to be willing to allow the producers to sue. Also, even if they did sue her to me it’s very likely their mom would’ve had to show the courts the medical records to prove they had a reason
I remember the first time I popped my shoulder and knee out I was absolutely screaming all my dad did was pop them back in and tell me to go back to bed 😂😅
Dude she was obligated by contracts with abby AND the show..kelly ended up suing and winning against dance moms production company. They would tell her that they would sue her for everything she owns if she didnt listen to them. You know nothing about dance moms or the law apparently. Kelly and her kids were manipulated and abused by abby and the production company and kelly wanted to leave the show almost from the very beginning but couldn't because she was contract bound. Watch the dance moms uncovered about laws and legal stuff in dance moms if you dont believe me. Theres proof for it all
@@leahsincelejo7641 again, no one can “make” her not take her child to the hospital. Where they physically holding her down? If they literally holding her there, that’s illegal. The producers told her not to leave and she, an adult, obeyed, then complained about it later
@@CoachJulie193 actually they were blocking the door the cast revealed they would lock them in buildings until drama ensued or they got the footage they wanted
The biggest thing I hate about how Brooke was treated is that she wasn’t learning from a proper teacher. Abby wasn’t a contortionist yet pushed Brooke to bend and stretch her body not knowing the true mechanics of it. Had Brooke learned from a contortionist or proper mentor I don’t think she’d have faced as many issues, which is just awful.
Yes, thank you for this comment. So many people are afraid that contortion will ruin your body, but that’s only if you are being incorrectly trained and aren’t given rest days.
I could’ve sworn that Abby was more so a gymnastics coach hence why in not all but a lot of their dances all the girls are doing some form of gymnastics and contortion moves.
@@tiamarrow6366 yes. her favourite style (and what she's best at teaching) is acro. however, acro is not contortion - smn abby has yet to realise. abby actually only really teaches flexibility in the legs of her students; she clearly knows hardly anything about contortion as a style (which is evident in how she treats - not only - brooke, but dancers like kalani, brynn and lilliana).
even w acro, u can tell that her understanding of it is limited and that her preference for it comes from her liking to work w pre-adolescents most and her need to fill her dances w constant tricks.
smn people seem to forget is that abby was never the seasoned-professional that she made out. her mother ran the studio whilst she watched from the sidelines, then she dropped out of school at 14 to take over running it - she has no real formal education in dance and was never even a dancer herself; her knowledge mostly extends to just having-watched her mother teach growing up... which is not enough to run a dance studio, but i digress.
she literally ran the studio into the ground (eventually filing for bankruptcy) and her studio was a constant revolving door of clientele - most leaving by the time theyre teens, anyway. her choreography is immensely-lacking and she cannot support the talents of students more advanced than your average cute kid just wanting to cartwheel around a stage; hence why she'd bring in incredible dancers like brynn, kalani, camryn and the season 8 team and be unable to win w them.
tl;dr - youre correct. furthermore, abby's really only suited to teaching acro, jazz and trick-heavy dances to younger children. anything more difficult and she cannot handle it - hence her always readying to blame the kids for her failures. she's not at all suited to teaching a style like contortion and it's honestly-horrifying imagining the damage she's done to other flexible kids that have come through her studio - at one point in season 3, she literally remarks that it was fine for asia and nia to go on stage unstretched, whilst doing a dance that involved loads of tricks and gymnastics moves
It is so heartbreaking seeing how much Brooke suffered probably the most out of any of the girls because of the amount of acro moves. She was constantly doing.
abby has this weird “show must go on” attitude which maybe comes in handy in certain situations but these are little girls. abby’s teaching methods are full of flaws and it clearly shows in the girls, especially brooke. you’d think a dance teacher would know how to deal with dance-related injuries
Brooke was so talented, cirque de soleil talented.
I’m convinced that stunted her growth
MackZBoss cool TH-cam video 👍👍
@@meme_lashay it's a fact. All the tricks squashed her vertebrae.
Brooke’s injuries are wild! The fact that adults were allowing her to do such flexible movements knowing about her injuries and pain level is really sickening.
All comes down to her mother, who used her kids for fame.
@@lo3497 Kelly tried to escape the contract from the beginning of the show, but unfortunately even with lawyers she could not do it.
@@lo3497 Hello, Abby
ITS DISGUSTING. Not once Abby gave her a lyric dance nor something else like musical theatre . After what the chiropractor said that she would be able to walk again if she kept doing it acro no one cared .
@@lo3497 it’s called a contract, the show was originally going to be a few episodes but it became a series and they all were locked into a contract for 6 seasons. Kelly was able to get out of the contract because of the physical fight between her and Abby.
It surprises me that out of all of Kelly’s lawsuits that she never filed one for Brooke considering how much she was physically hurt.
Unfortunately she can't because they signed a contract that says that the show would not be held responsible for any injuries
I’m surprised Maddie’s famous fall on the gym floor wasn’t mentioned. They made it sound like a serious fall when actually she immediately got up and finished the routine.
Here’s the unedited dance. She is hurt but not as serious as the show made out.
th-cam.com/video/8P7v0HHxCP0/w-d-xo.html
She kept dancing and might not have been seriously hurt but the producers made it look like it hurt a lot more.
I was always shocked that Brooke broke three growth plates.
And yet she still danced beautifully every time she performed 🙌🏼
That’s why she’s so short
@@glsweeney721 No Brooke revealed that her short height comes from her grandmother and her grandmother was a short as she was.
@@haileyparsons3844 Probably, but she could’ve been a little bit taller if she didn’t break them
@@haileyparsons3844 but Paige is tall so...?
I’m a licensed occupational therapist. I’ve worked with clients with repetitive stress injuries of the upper extremities (shoulder, elbow, wrists, and hands) in the past. Seeing Brooke’s shoulder dislocate on camera makes my stomach churn. Compared to the other joints in your body, your shoulder joint sucks. That joint is basically hanging on by those ligaments and tendons, and though it allows for excellent range of motion, it’s pretty unstable and susceptible to injury. Stretching them out past a certain point, you would most likely need surgery and intensive therapies from an upper extremity (hand) therapist. I’m just baffled that she never received rest or the proper therapies for her shoulder.
And she also fractured THREE growth plates?!? A break, or even just inflammation, of one growth plate is serious enough. But THREE??? I wonder how much taller Brooke would be if she received the proper treatment. Gosh, I feel SO bad for Brooke. 😢
Yeah if you look at paige next to brooke now a days, paige is WAY taller.
Ya I listen to Kelly and Christies podcast and it's so messed up that Kelly wasn't allowed to bring her to the doctor immediately. It's so messed up.
@@kelsey2333 there's also childhood pictures before it happened where both of them were really similar heights and body types, so she probably would have been tall like her
@@overgrownkudzu yeah but fortunately brooke would be gorgeous at any height!!!! I actually type more curvy petite body type like brooke....but being tall and thin is what they want for models typically. Both body types and brooke and paige are gorgeous in their own ways
Yes! I injured my shoulder when I was sixteen, went through PT and surgery and it’s never been the same. You don’t realize how much your shoulder is connected to either. They actually treated my neck for a couple months before realizing it was a torn labrum in my shoulder. Unlike other joint injuries I’ve had, my shoulder will make everything around it hurt. Neck, back, chest, pain down the arm, etc. and you use it CONSTANTLY. Like you said, even when your resting it’s still taking on the weight of your arm unless it’s supported. I can’t imagine how much pain she was in and what she’s going through now. Insane.
I was a level 10 gymnast. I trained 5 hours a day, 5-6 days a week. I had knee surgery for an OCD lesion, and had a stress fracture in my L5 vertebrae that I had for 3 years before going to the doctor. My back will never heal and to this day I can't lay certain ways, run long enough and even cross my legs or they'll get numb. Not to mention the emotional elements that still effect me to this day. Being told to suck it up and to not cry and constantly doing exercises that terrified me. I would even fake being sick when I was younger because I was so scared of beam. I remember the shame I felt when I had to tell my coaches that I was sick or injured. Actual shame, for saying I was hurt. And the MANY times I would compete and train on broke toes and fingers. I quit in my junior year of high school, but I lowkey still have ptsd. I feel so much for what these girls went through. Absolutely awful.
I’ve always thought that Brook looked IN PAIN while she was doing those moves,even when it wasn’t said that she was in pain or anything ☹️
It’s sickening how Abby downplayed Brooke’s injuries and acted like she was being whiny when it caused her to still be affected years later
If the production contracts didn’t care about physical harm to everyone, it makes sense why the producers would try to get Kelly to come back to the studio after the fight with Abby.
The fact that Maddie felt like she had to just deal with injuries because of filming is so sad! No child should ever be put in that position!
it's so scary to see how much Brooke's acrobatic talents were exploited by Abby and the producers - this is why contortion/acro is usually reserved for seasoned professionals or younger dancers.
I had the extra navicular bone in my foot like Kenzie does. Anytime I would sprain or strain my ankle, it would take much longer to heal because of the pressure the extra bone puts on the tendons around it. I ended up breaking that navicular bone during a triathlon and wasn't smart enough to stop. This caused me to have to have the bone removed, the real navicular shaved, and the posterior tibial tendon reshaped. I was non-weight bearing for 3 months and in a boot for another 2 months. When I saw Kenzie have the same issues, I wanted to cry for her.
An extra bone sounds really ridiculous and not that big of a deal. But the stupid thing caused me issues until I had it removed.
I developed this born too due to all the ballet I did whilst a kid… it was so painful sometimes, now I’m no longer dancing I haven’t had so many issues with it
3:01 My dance teachers always tell us that they are not allowed to let us dance if injured until we are cleared with a doctors note because it’s a liability, and they can get in serious trouble for that so this should almost definitely be illegal or have some consequence against the producers
I’m COMPLETELY amazed at how well ALL THESE AWESOME GIRLS turned out. That show was so TOXIC, from Abby to production crew, that it’s a wonder that not one of them has SNAPPED!! I LOVE ALL THE GIRLS AND AM SO PROUD OF EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM!!! ❤❤❤❤
And I’m obsessed with your vids!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Hearing Melissa lie about Chloe or try to manipulate drama against her is so disheartening.
this is why i don’t like when people encourage melissa’s actions on the show. christi and the other moms on the show have said that melissa would do anything to get her daughter ahead. she was living through her daughters and the lengths she took to reach her goal is so sad sometimes.
@Reign Dance exactly. It's OK for Christi to be mean to 9 year old Kenzie 🙄
Why can’t both be wrong and both be right? Christi has said she is not proud of who she was in the show. They both did really messed up things and I bet wish they could redo.
@Reign Dance wtf? I was agreeing with you
@@elizabethparvin6090 I have never heard Melissa acknowledge or apologize about the things she did towards Chloe vs Christi where she acknowledged her behavior and apologized several times.
I would like you to investigate possible prescription medication abuse by Abby in seasons 5-7. Her behavior is way too drastically different, especially comparing season 1 Abby to season 5 Abby where she’s dumping her purse all over the floor, and showing up “out of it” to competitions.
I never thought of that. Good point. She could have been on prescription meds. It does make sense. It really does.
I'm surprised that the producers suffered no consequences for doing all of this
It’s insane to me that all the adults around Brooke let her go through so much pain just for the show.
I’m not only talking about the producers and Abby, Kelly was told many times that her daughter’s health was at risk if she kept doing the routines they gave her and she let her do it.
I don’t care if she was under contract, that’s her daughter’s health. She chose not to break a damn contract over Brooke’s well being.
This show proves how greedy the rich are most of the time. Sacrificing little kids physically and mental health for a few extra coins in the bank? Absolutely descipable and vile.
shows like toddlers and tiaras tend to do the same thing too. children have always been expl0ited in the media and it makes me sick. how can they even sleep at night :((
It’s rotten!!
@@lookoutforthelittleguy it goes even deeper than that unfortunately
OMG I'm excited!!!! This is one of the few TH-cam series that I get so stoked about!! How you go through all the research work of finding these unknown details to give to us is amazing!!!! You are THE dance moms truth channel!
1:06 I always assumed she drew the line at Paige doing it because Brooke had been doing it for so much longer
A lot of people are saying that there sad Brooke quit dance but I’m glad she did because just like she said here in the video if she continued to do her tricks she probably wouldn’t have been able to walk by the time she was an adult. I just can’t imagine doing something so many times to the point where it has a huge affect on the body that there would be a possibility that you couldn’t walk by the time your an adult. So to those saying that they wished Brooke didn’t quit or are sad about it it’s a good thing she did cause she probably wouldn’t be walking around to this day if she hadn’t.
If they’re not responsible for injuries, there’s no way they should have continued working injured. Abby included. Brooke’s injuries have had permanent damage to her body
Maddie’s stress injury wasn’t the first time we heard about it. It all makes sense when Melissa said maybe Maddie had a similar disorder as Nia I think in s2 or s3 she mentioned it very briefly.
I think she said something not like “I’m surprised Maddie doesn’t have it then” when Holly said that it’s tied to Type A (perfectionist) behavior. She didn’t actually think Maddie had that; she just wanted to make sure everyone “remembered” how much Maddie was a perfectionist.
I hate how this show was so manipulative and harmed all the kids physically and emotionally forever. But I think one of the most real things was how much Melissa would do anything for her girls and how much she bragged on them especially Maddie. I don’t think any producer had to spin that or push her to do that.
@@tonicox4005 in the video it literally said she was diagnosed in s1-2 so I think she was trying to bring it up and to relate it to Nia not to take attention away from nias injury.
@@N84Lyfe not with the same thing Nia had though! A repetitive strain injury is not the same as the thing Nia had (I can't remember the name but didn't it cause her to be unable to even walk?)
@@wheniwatchtheworldburn3184 fight again it’s similar
@@wheniwatchtheworldburn3184 right*
Honestly, Brooke fought hard to try and keep Abby off of her neck along with pushing herself to perform with all the injuries she had. She just wanted to be a teenager but instead she was rushing her own growth by contorting and straining herself even when she felt like she couldn’t get through a solo. Abby’s mentality of the show must go on is somewhat correct, I can see where her mind is but her pushing this mentality so hard that a dance student had to struggle that much is sort of worrying.
The only quibble I have with this video is the “having to go to competitions while injured”, it may be a studio requirement and not the producers. I did competitive cheerleading for most of life and every squad I was on had a rule that if you were injured and couldn’t participate you still had to attend every game/competition and sit on the sidelines. I was never injured, but there were plenty of times girls were on the sidelines with boots or crutches or casts.
I think this more so had to do with the show making a big deal about the girls being injured and unable to dance rather than actually going to the competitions as a team.
The worst thing i hate about the producers is that they were hiding microfones everywhere,locking the cast in rooms,and making them starve.
I really do think Paige’s accident affected her dancing drastically especially her technique , if that not had happened and with a little more love from her teacher , I think Paige could have been the Maddie off the team i really do believe that
I’ve seen a few times it mentioned that Paige was Maddie’s competition before the show which makes sense given if Abby thought she was such a weak dancer then why was she in the trio with Chloe and Maddie regularly even before the show when she could’ve chosen someone ‘stronger’
1:05 Paige is seen doing backtucks on the dance floor which is another hard surface in her routines all the time. Brooke may have grace but she had injuries
Even though it wasn’t discussed in the episode,the crew filming Taylor (CADC dancer) crying in pain after breaking her ankle in the Ode to a Clown dance was just terrible of them to do
I know. I hope people don’t make fun of her for it. I broke my foot and sprained my ankle day the same time and it really hurts
These episodes are so good wow
It all just seems so pointless, too. Like they couldn't have spun an injury/ER trip to be dramatic enough for the show, while still getting the CHILDREN proper medical care? Like did they really think they would lose a bunch of viewership if they let them go to the effing hospital? I just don't get the logic.
I'm literally obsessed with this channel keep up the good work queen
Babe wake up. A new MackZBoss video dropped
None of this is surprising but there should have been laws and regulations in place for these kinds of things I mean destroying someone’s back to the point of them potentially not being able to walk is so unconscionable and this is where things need to be put in place
Oh I have the shoulder thing too. So I know what that feels like. I am by nature hypermobile. I've always been mindful of my back and shoulders when it comes to flexibility, cause they're super sensitive to permanent injuries due to my hypermobility. Cause I do like stretching and being flexible. Just a tip for anyone doing flexibility training: Make sure that whatever place you wanna improve flexibility, you also improve strength. Or else that place, especially joints, will become too flexible and your strength isn't enough to support the flexibility anymore. It's a real issue. I've never done any training on my shoulders, but one of my should also dislocates my simply putting it up, and it still sometimes pops in very painful ways while moving. My left shoulder has been sprained badly before. It's also super sensitive to dislocating bc of that.
And I have similar, but less severe issues in places like my hips, my ankles, my back and even my wrists and fingers. I can't imagine the crap Brooke has had to go through with her body. It's sad how so much overuse can cause such severe damage permanently.
Every time I open TH-cam I always hope there’s a new video from you
probably why she let brooke do the back tuck and not paige is because brooke was more experienced and confident with her standing backs, whereas paige had probably just learned it and hadn’t perfected it
I think Brooke would have been okay to dance after a significant rest as long as she didn't do acro because that was the thing screwing up her back & shoulders like the stuff she was doing was amazing but the human body is not meant to do that. When she's old she's probably really going to suffer
1:05 Abby kn9ws both girls strengths and weaknesses-Brooke was best at acro-, Paige was younger and hasn’t perfected her technique-that’s why she’d allow Brooke n nor paige
That just doesn’t make sense though because she had some a standing back tuck in every routine that she won like make some noise, honey bun, people, I mean she had it perfected before the show even begin
Paige always had a back tuck on the show even before that episode. I think Abby told another kid and was edited to make it seem Paige was at risk one. Chloe was seen about to flip.
Please do an episode on the girls education!!!
I second this
Yess !!!
This! I’m curious to know how schooling was done after the move to L.A. all the girls except the Zieglers were in regular school. I’m most curious about Nia bc Holly does not play when it comes to education
Great idea!
If I remember this right, they were tutored. Of course, this would be difficult considering they were all different ages.
The way paige was treated was so bad, both the hylands were treated like shit
1:06. I am not an expert, but Brooke might have been taught on how to do back standing tuck and land it safely for years as she does Acro and has specialised whereas Paige’s specialty was more jazz/funk. Having said that, that scene shows cement flooring which would have been risky and not just landing on their feet correctly, if there was any hesitation, there might have been a risk of a concussion if the girls landed on their heads. I am not trying to defend the situation, but from the looks and sound of it, there is not a lot of information.
Paige had her standing back tuck by s1
@@N84Lyfe That is true, but I am wondering if there is a significant difference in terms of landing on a crash mat compared to a stage and does the hardness of a stage translate to concrete?
@@moonwalkerangel7008 definitely but she did her tuck in teachings and on stage the ground they were on was a carpet made of cement but the point is she had it.
And she was seen tucking high.
Please do an Uncovered episode about panic attacks - specifically ones that weren't recognised. For example, the first episode (I think) where Maddie is "sick", I honestly think that was a panic attack because of all the cameras she wasn't used to because she never missed dance before or afterwards and the way she acts is very similar to how she acted other times she panicked like when she forgot her dance or when she fell on the floor during her dance (also surprised you didn't include in this video the fact that when Maddie fell on her butt, she actually completed her dance, unlike what they showed on the show!)
Maddie’s stomach hurt because she hadn’t eaten all day.
That's Child Abuse and Child endangerment. Why did the creators and producers got away with this?
I’m honestly convinced Brooke has Ehler’s Danlos Syndrome with her hyper mobility and the kind of injuries she’d get. I have eds and my joints will pop out at the most random inopportune times, my feet, ankles, wrists, and shoulders are the worst. When I was young I could do all kinds of contortions without any issues and now opening a bottle of water or standing up from a sitting position cause my joints to pop out.
Just because you have it doesnt mean that anyone else who has similar issues to you has it too if she hasnt already been diagnosed with it by an actual medical professional she doesnt have it point blank
@@midnight_x_edits And you know she doesn’t have it how? I’m not sitting here saying I’m a doctor or making some medical diagnosis, I’m stating that I think it’s POSSIBLE based on things that happened to here compared my personal experiences. Eds affects gymnasts, contortionists, and dancers on such a regular basis that it’s sometimes referred to Cirque du Solei disease. The thing is, eds often gets misdiagnosed because, unless you have the rarer forms, there is no definitive testing.
As Dr. Holly said “I’m entitled to my opinion just like you’re entitled to your wrong one”
So in terms of AUDC, Jordyn said on her podcast with Asia that the producers told Jordyn and her mom that she was winning the show which is why she got the biggest bedroom. So the producers either planned it out that Jordyn would be eliminated, or they just wanted drama so they did the flexibility challenge. Like why would you eliminate the “winner” of the show like that, if it wasn’t to create drama?
your videos are fr the best
This is too cruel and heartbreaking😢..kids do not deserve that. Hopefully they all live healthy, happy adult lives now😌❤
Reality TV involving children should be some kind of child labor violation imo. These poor kids should be allowed to rest and enjoy their lives, not worry about being forced to work through injuries or stuck in contracts they aren't even old enough to sign.
I love your videos I've seen them for years never stop ❤❤
Unfortunately in my experience these kinds of things happen even when your not in front of a camera, I broke my foot a few years ago, and a danced on it for three days before I even went to the doctor because I didn’t have a doctor note. Even when I was in a boot I also had to go to classes and comps
That’s messed up, why 3 days tho?
I’m so early! Most times I’m 2/3 years late 😅😅. I love your videos ❤❤
The scene where Paige does the back tuck, Abby was looking out for her, she told her not to do it because there was cement underneath the carpet but Kelly said well do it I want to eat my lunch. So Paige listened to her mother and not her dance teacher like Abby knew Paige wasn’t going to nail it and she knew Paige was going to be injured either way.
7:09 oh boo who poor chloe like Christi doesnt talk about maddie all the time
I wonder if Kalani had the same back problems as Brooke since kalani always got acro tricks to do in group dances and some of her solos.
Possibly but some people are predisposed/prone to injury. Kalani isn’t an OG ALDC dancer so it may also be technique/Abby’s teaching method affecting it.
Probably but she was getting 2-3 dances a week a lot of dancers are not that used to that
@@goeticfolklore yeah but she had to have some sort of back injury right? dance really does a number on your body and considering the other physical issues kalani had during the show it might be a possibility
@@N84Lyfe Not saying she never had an injury I don't know. However, by the time Kalani was in S4, they were beginning to get stricter regarding labor laws for reality TV. Henceforth, the OG girls likely worked more hours.
@@lookoutforthelittleguy I'm sure she had some form of injury every athlete does. If her issues were as severe as Brooke's could only be verified by herself.
I’m with brook here I have a dislocated shoulder and it pos out and pops in sometimes i can control it sometimes not I’m so happy to see somebody who was gone through it to
Paige: I want to do my standing back tuck
Abby: no don't do it and it is cement underneath this carpet like, Abby knew Paige was going to injure herself
Kelly: I want to eat my lunch
me: like really abby told her not to do it and christi blamed abby when she was in the right telling her not to do it.
Love your channel btw I have an episode idea can you do a video about the minis from season 6 unpopular opinion I loved the minis I’d love to know some background info
it's screwed up how common it is to force child athletes to work through injuries throughout all sports. they really ruin kids' bodies to the point where many have to retire from a sport they dedicated their entire childhoods to in their 20s. (sometimes at the expense of their childhoods too)
Can you please do a dance moms uncovered about the mini team? who's idea was it, behind the scenes, Things that happened off camera, why Peyton Evans left, why the whole team left, etc?
For the standing back tuck thing. I assumed Abby was okay with Brooke doing it because Brook had sneakers on. When Paige was barefoot at the time.
I was a dancer and I've had surgery on my Achilles tendon twice and pop my shoulders and hips out on a pretty regular basis. Like Brooke I have loose ligaments and was a contortionist, and also a pointe dancer
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Seriously the producers needs to be sued by all the injuries dancers.
I agree with your comment. However, that was why the contracts had a clause that stated that production were not responsible for injuries, accidents, illness or death.
The idea of this is outrageous. C.p.s. Would/should have stepped in. The idea of not being able to take Paige to the doctor until filming is over is ridiculous. Poor parenting skills and misplaced priorities.
Abby told Paige not to do it because of the cement floor
The fact that they made such a story out of baby Kenzie being injured but never really explain it always makes me so mad
miss seeing you on the videos
Wow, I actually wasn't aware of any of this despite how much background knowledge I've come across about the show.
I feel like I say this about every video...why can't it be longer??!
The fact that brooke was repeadly directed to perform crippling contortion moves doesnt sit right on a much grander scale.
It's show that they weren't allowed to take any kind of bracks from dance cus the porders wanted the show to run like a Broadway show but without a under study and that's a shame on them for doing that to the kids
I know this isn't dance but my son was an All Star Baseball player and did football and basketball as well. When John had an injury immediately his Dad took over and we dictated what would happen after. We didn't sign a contract of course but I don't understand how these moms would sign again and again knowing what would happen. I would pull my kid before I signed up again and again. I think these Moms have enabled this to a point. Ify child was hurt you could forget about it. Don't sign the contract.
They signed one contract for all 6 seasons, Kelly and Christi were able to get out of their contracts but the others weren’t.
@@allisonkrueger8330 How is that true when they didn't know how many seasons there would be? That is kooky.
@@chittyluv2651 they planned the seasons when the show took off
You are wrong and you sound like a kook for reals.
I wonder how Abby would of been if producers weren’t so toxic and instigating fights how different things would of turned out cuz that episode of them at the gym inside of a school where Paige had won it was like a different show
Probably the same. People have come out with issues with Abby that took place before dance moms and how she would body shame the girls and post their weight on a board for everyone to see. She was always a pretty crappy person.
Plus while the producers are HORRIBLE Abby said horrible things off camera and made racist remarks off camera. The procedures even had to edit out Abby telling Christy to fix Chloe's eye because even THEY thought that was too far.
The fact that Abby instructed the girls to do backtucks sounds like a form of abuse. It seems like she forced the girls to do it on purpose. The fact that she threatened them to do it is sadistic and is clearly a form of child abuse.
5:04 even when the freaking chiroprator said directly to Abby that Brooke needs to stop doing so much contortion work she still did it.
This is so sad, they even made maddie dance when she was goanna throw up
I feel like these moms never actually knew their rights. as if producers actually have the power to stop you from taking your child to the hospital. they can only "force" you to do something if you give them the power to.
You may have already done a video on this, but can I uncover Kira and kalani threatening to leave after she was pulled from the group dance and Alexa taught her a solo?
I know it’s not right, but I don’t feel this is shocking, I’ve grown up in a competitive dance world and competing injured isn’t uncommon and really just life over here in the uk. We had a girl pull out ligaments at a competition, she was in a knee brace for 9 months and still finished the day of competition before she went to the hospital. Children dance in braces/casts/boots/supports ALL THE TIME is it not like that in the US? As a child I once fell and broke my arm on the Thursday and didn’t go to the hospital until Monday so I could attend the two day majorettes competition that weekend and if it was in a cast then wouldn’t have been able to twirl. Think I was about 15 though so older then the kids on the show
could you do video on season 7 ❤️
Can you make a video about the contagion dance with Lori Ann? Very weird that they came third and wondering if there's more to the story!
What about Chloe's toe? I feel that should be included too :P She had to miss out on nationals. She was in a boot too.
When did she miss out on nationals? I know she was kicked off in season 3 Nationals, but that was not due to injury. If it was in season 4, she was in a boot but she did dance at Nationals.
She missed out on the s. 4 dance concert not the nationals competition. Some people have said it was over exaggerated by the producers to provide an explanation why Chloe was not in the dance concert ( she was excluded from the photo shoot for the program book months before that).
It wasn’t her toe, she had a buckle fracture in her foot.
Withholding… see Sandi Johnson for details as notes were provided
these are all absolutely horrible :( I’m no medical professional and in *no way* suggesting that this is the case for Brooke, but I have a connective tissue disorder (and am very very hypermobile) and used to get injured running and doing other sports constantly- and feel so fortunate that it was taken seriously and I was told to stop doing things that would make it progressively worse- and connective tissue disorder or not, pushing anyone through pain, much less a CHILD, is absolutely sick.
Ok but I can’t be the only one thinking that Brooke has hEDS (hypermobile Ehlers-danlos syndrome)
You are the only one thinking that im sure she’s seen numerous medical professionals hasnt been diagnosed with it and plus shes already an adult ED is smthn your diagnosed with as a CHILD like a literal infant
I’ve been binge watching all your videos and everytime the picture of them on the bicycles pops up in the beginning I crack up cause everyone knows Abby don’t look like that! Not saying anything about her weight she’s just not shaped like that!😂😂😂
unfortunately a big part of the dance world is dancing no matter what, especially if it's a team situation.
Pediatric PT here- overuse injuries are NOT NORMAL and SHOULD NOT happen in kids.
Hello MackZBoss! Do you think you can do an episode on what really happened on season 4 episode 9. The episode the Hylands leave. I am currently watching it and wonder what had really happened that day. I curious on what was staged and what the producers planned.
It honestly and sadly doesn’t surprise me in the slightest. In the competitive world this is sometimes just how it is. (It’s 100% wrong) but I did competitive cheer and my body was ruined by age 15. I’m 22 now and I suffer so much chronic joint pain throughout my entire body. I had so many injuries that never quite healed that I still trained and competed on. Being an athlete is very hard. Adults really overtrain children and run them into the ground.
I have loose ligaments too…can’t believe this kid danced thru all that pain. I have very bad muscular-skeletal issues and a chronic pain disorder. I know how Brooke feels…..i have problems with my knees and ankles dislocating…I can’t believe Abby continued to give her Acro dances knowing she’s messing up this little girls body…
I don’t care who you are or what contracts are in place. You take your kid to the hospital when that sort of injury happens. That’s a major misstep from Kelly.
She would’ve been in serious legal trouble had she left.
@@allisonkrueger8330 But the judge would have to be willing to allow the producers to sue. Also, even if they did sue her to me it’s very likely their mom would’ve had to show the courts the medical records to prove they had a reason
I remember the first time I popped my shoulder and knee out I was absolutely screaming all my dad did was pop them back in and tell me to go back to bed 😂😅
I’m confused no one can tell me that I CANT take my child to the hospital. Tf ? Walk out ! That’s on Kelly
Dude she was obligated by contracts with abby AND the show..kelly ended up suing and winning against dance moms production company. They would tell her that they would sue her for everything she owns if she didnt listen to them. You know nothing about dance moms or the law apparently. Kelly and her kids were manipulated and abused by abby and the production company and kelly wanted to leave the show almost from the very beginning but couldn't because she was contract bound. Watch the dance moms uncovered about laws and legal stuff in dance moms if you dont believe me. Theres proof for it all
You weren’t on the show so you wouldn’t understand that situation
Kelly wanted to take her but the producers made them wait until filming is over.
@@leahsincelejo7641 again, no one can “make” her not take her child to the hospital. Where they physically holding her down? If they literally holding her there, that’s illegal. The producers told her not to leave and she, an adult, obeyed, then complained about it later
@@CoachJulie193 actually they were blocking the door the cast revealed they would lock them in buildings until drama ensued or they got the footage they wanted
I hate the comments r turned off on certain vids
Once Brooke popped her shoulder out, the acro should’ve been over they should’ve restrained her from doing tricks even if she wanted to try them