@@jeffreyermino5510 Read your bible before you make a statement like that....(i'm paraphrasing) Jesus said in the bible many false prophet wil come but the one that recognize me as Messiah is truely a spirit of truth ( prophet).... sooo tell me who is the only one recognize Jesus peace and blessings upon Him as a Messiah? Our beloved Mohammed peace and blessings upon Him.
So that they may know YOU, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, of whom you have sent. *Using the same logic in other sentences* : So that they may know YOU, the only true Principal of this school, and, the Teachers, of whom you lead. So that they may know YOU, the only true President of this country, and Female X, of whom is your wife. *What Christians is confused with* : Because Jesus Christ says "YOU, the only true God, *and* Jesus Christ," then this means that he is also the One true God as well, along with the Father. *What Christians don't realize is* : If the verse was to mean that Jesus Christ was the same true God as the Father then its sentence would be structured like this.... "So that they may know YOU *and* ME, the only true Gods." *Conclusion* : Christians misread in applying their understanding of the word 'and'. You don't say "so that they may know YOU, the only true President of this country, and Female x, of whom you love as your wife" and say that his wife is also the President *UNLESS* it says, "so that they may know you AND your wife, the true Presidents of this country."
@@shoottothrill1 Nah. The only reason why we wont be able to understand the bible the way you do is because biblical english and classical english are completely different. So different in fact that not even english speakers can understand it unless they are told to forget their english knowledge.
@@shaami8622 . Not really, all religious texts are a product of their time when language was communicated differently just take the difference between Greek & Latin as an example. The point made about Psalms being a poetry style is a good example of this because poets were the historians of the past. Things get written to convey a message to your audience and it's for them to find that for themselves. me personally I approached looking at all of this from a historical perspective which is the only way I can understand most of it.
Bob has no shame. How many lies would it take to for him to feel shame? I say nothing. When somebody stops respecting God, the one who created them, there is nothing that is left to have a respect for.
Jesus saying he's the good shepherd. In what way is that equal to him saying he's the one and only true God of Isreal??? Seriously??? What a weak argument Bob!
@@armourofgod6310 who told you Jesus said that and not the father? That's in the old testament correct. Jesus is not metioned in the old testament. So where do you get that nonsense from. Jesus worshiped God. Explain that one lol.
Mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good, except God alone." John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." Bob's argument: Since only God can be called good, then Jesus must be God, because he's called the good shepherd. Problem with Bob's argument: The words used in Greek are different. Both are translated to mean "good", but the verses use different Greek words. Mark 10:18:4 agathon & Mark 10:18:8 agathon John 10:11:4 kalos & John 10:11:7 kalos agathon according to Strong's Greek 18: A primary word; 'good'. kalos according to Strong's Greek 2570: Properly, beautiful, but chiefly good, i.e. Valuable or virtuous. Because kalos can have different meanings, there's no case to be made: the words differ, and this is problematic for Bob's argument. It would've worked if the words were the same, but since they're different, then the translation of kalos into "good" is selective, and can just as well be interpreted to mean something else (such as virtuous or beautiful). Synonyms in languages often have a very similar meaning, but in most cases, there will be a subtle difference in the etymology, application, form, and meanings in common usage, which is why the other word exists in the first place. It's rare to have two different words in a language with the exact same meaning. Bob's argument doesn't hold up. His arguments tend to be weak anyway. And his argument leads to a performative contradiction. Replace "good" with "God" in both verses. Jesus denies being God, and says that God alone is God, and then he says that he is God, the shepherd. These statements contradict one another. He's either God, or he's not. He can't both be God and not God simultaneously. Bobbie points out that God describes Himself as a shepherd in Ezekiel. This is just another weak (supporting) argument. According to that logic, any man who's described to be a shepherd (or actually is one), should therefor be divine. Likewise, God is described as being the husband of Israel, so is every husband God? Is every father a deity? Bob's point has to be dismissed. The confidence with which he's preaching this utter nonsense is quite impressive. Listen to his nonsense: (God being described as a shepherd) "is an archetype in the Jewish paradigm". It's not an archetype, it's a similitude. It's hardly a paradigm, as this analogy isn't that common at all. It appears, but to say it's a paradigm is unwarranted. I'd much sooner put God being the Lord and/or Owner as a paradigm. God as Lord (of creation) isn't an analogy either, but a proper name and title and attribute. Bob's just full of crap, throwing fancy words around to appear more clever than he actually is. Bob argues that God is the First and the Last in the Old Testament, and Jesus is the First and the Last in the New Testament. The latter is from the Book of Revelations, which is basically an unknown author recording a dream he had. In the dream, Jesus (quote, unquote) says that he's the First and the Last. To take this and claim that: "Jesus said that he was the First and the Last" is unacceptable. It isn't Jesus speaking; just some unknown person attributing statements to Jesus, based on a weird dream he's had. We can completely deconstruct this argument from a rational theological perspective, but since the 'quote' doesn't actually originate from Jesus(as), then that will suffice. This just goes on and on. Nonsense upon nonsense, supported by nonsense. In my opinion, it's just a weak and futile attempt to argue for an anthropomorphic, polytheistic theology that isn't supported whatsoever by the ancient Hebrew literature. Bob fails miserably.
do you know greek not seen many muslim that know greek and kalos and agathon can mean samething and shepherd is a title god is called husband of israel which only god can do not normal human being it has metaphorical meaning even then and jesus wasnt denying he was good he trying to make the questioner think if i am good then you should see me as god because only god is good he didnt say i am not good only god is good and no revelations is by john and it is a prophetic revelation and in it jesus is speaking if you reject revelation reject Muhammad revalation too and it is not polythiestic together they make one god and besides rejects divinity doesnt lead to islam you can be jehovah witness or unitarian if you have prove muhammad prophethood
Even if Jesus pbuh came back and SLAPPED Butthurt Bob the Liar and told him I AM *NOT* GOD !!! Butthurt Bob would still say NOTICE he said I AM so you ARE GOD!! 🤦🏽🤦🏾♀️🤦🏿🤦🏻♀️🤦🏼🤦♀️
Only Bob can formulate an idea that Jesus said i am God in the verse where person approached Jesus and said " O My Good teacher what i must do to inherit an eternal life?" Jesus said " Why are you calling me good when there is none good but God alone! How in the world can any rational person interpret that to mean that Jesus said I am God? Imagine a person comes to you and He or She says the same thing to you "O My good teacher what do i have to do to Inherit eternal life", and you say Why are you calling me good when there is none good but God alone. This statement by that person would in today's language be " Hey man don't you know i am just a teacher and just a man, Only God is completely good and none else.
Bob was correcting Mansur's erroneous assertion that Jesus *commanded* the rich man in the story "don't call me good". Rather, Jesus *asked* "why call me good?", *confirms* "no one is good except God alone" and *asserts* the man knows the 10 commandments. The rich man, who called Jesus "good teacher" does not answer Jesus' question. He makes no explanation of why Jesus is "good". Instead, the rich man asserts himself and boasts, that he has obeyed the 10 commandments since he was young. Jesus responds that he needs *"only one thing"* to give up his riches *"and follow me"* . Remember the rich man's original question, "what must I do to receive eternal life?". The rich man walked away. He ignored Jesus not once but twice, in not answering Jesus' question to him and rejecting Jesus' instruction to him to give up his previous life and belief and follow Him. Jesus comments "how hard it will be for rich people to enter the Kingdom of God". Jesus asks "why". Like Mansur, the rich man failed to understand the significance of that question.
@@latexcitizenx He was asking a man why do you call me good when there is none good accept God alone. Then Man repeated the question again knowing fully well that Jesus did not like this man to call Him good. So, "Man asked again "O Teacher what do i have to do to do to inherit eternal life".
@@godisgreat2135 What I notice is that the rich man did not repeat his original question. Please, give reference to the verse. While I agree that the rich man dropped "good" when addressing Jesus a second time, I notice also that rather than directly, sincerely and truthfully, answer the question Jesus asked of him, he made judgement that this question was instruction, and asserted his obedience to the 10 commandments. Jesus does not force his original question, or question the rich man's assertion of obedience to the commandments. He then gives his answer to the the Rich man's question, which is to give up his riches and follow "me".
The more I learn about christianity the more I get confused. Apparently Jesus talk about himself when he refers to 'god', and when he refers to 'the father', and when he refers to 'the son'. What a great paradox!
Because you are compering bible with Qur'an brother their is different between this two.the different is love and hate ,Jesus and religious,saved and deeds.
Hmd , exactly, I am also confused , perfect word that should used is PARADOX. FATHER IS ONLY TRUE GOD , FATHER SENT JESUS , FATHER KNOWS THE LAST HOUR , FATHER IS ONLY GOOD .
Man I love Mansoor ♥️ Good on Bob to have improved significantly with his debating with regards to respect. I hope inshallah he embraces Islam one day. I'll never give up on Bob, and neither should any of you. He might very well become a Muslim.
Yes I too love mansoor with coming with utter foolishness in counter argument thinking he has outsmarted Bob but rather humiliated himself further even to an extent of a fool...
if you really thought bob won you are the fool. Also jesus doesnt even at all claim to be God by calling himself good because when he says only god is good he uses the word agathos for good, and when he calls HIMSELF good he uses the word kalos. agathos and kalos have similar but different meaning and since it was translated from aramaic to different words, clearly jesus meant two different things, like good and kind, or anger and hate.@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu
@@AbdullahArguer This is why God said I will trap the so called wise in their wisdom coz God's foolishness is much greater then so called wisdom of man, clearly you haven't understood the gospel, when the man came to Jesus & said Good teacher, jesus did not say don't call me good rather said why do you call me good? There's a question mark ❓behind & jesus continues no one is good except my father in heaven so the reader here need to think why did the man called jesus good coz the man had not seen the father but the son doing good he understood what it means to be good that's the reason jesus said The father is in me & I in the father the Muslims don't understand these verse coz Muhammad the demon following his master Iblis ( Shaitan) has blocked their mind to understand the truth...
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu he doesnt need to say dont call me good just him questioning the mans decision to call him good shows it was bad, i understand the i and the father are one thing but if the son and the father are one in essence the verse that says the father is the only true God is a complete contridiction, also no god is not a fool and doesnt have foolishness. So for your argument to work you must believe that the son IS COMPLETELY the father and the father is COMPLETELY the son, not persons, but no trinity just 3 titles for the same god
@@AbdullahArguer Let me get you busted in one sentence of yours as I read you say jesus said, 'The only true God is Father' do you believe those words of Jesus if so then you don't believe in Allah coz in kor'an Allah is father to none, defend yourself now the ball is in your court...
😂 @ Mansur saying to the cartoon character at the end, “Congratulations of making Jesus the Father. This is a Christian heresy.” Mansur is truly brilliant.
he is deceptive Christians dont believe Jesus is the father but the son yet Muslims want Jesus to say he is only true god of israel christians only believe jesus is god in unity with the father and spirit not on his own
Yes I love Bob too the way he screws these abdools & humiliate them they have no truth to defend so they start crying to their moon God hubal called Islamic allah...
The ayah he asked for taking hadeeth «وما آتاكم الرسول فخذوه وما نهاكم عنه فانتهوا» Surat al hashr , ayah 7.....alhamdu le Allah every question has an answer very logical in sweet Islam..
Bob wants a Qur'anic verse to mention the following of ahadith (recorded actions and sayings of Prophet Muhammad pbuh): The believers are] those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find written down with them in the Torah and the Gospel, commanding them to do right and forbidding them to do wrong, making good things lawful for them and bad things forbidden for them, relieving them of their heavy loads and the chains that were around them. Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the Light that has been sent down with him are successful. (Surat al-A`raf: 157)
Even if Jesus pbuh came back and SLAPPED Butthurt Bob the Liar and told him I AM *NOT* GOD !!! Butthurt Bob would still say NOTICE he said I AM so you ARE GOD!! 🤦🏽🤦🏾♀️🤦🏿🤦🏻♀️🤦🏼🤦♀️
Mansur whenever he starts his 3mins to answer : bismillah and answers all bobs claims Bob as he starts his statement :didn't answer my questions . ...Repeats
@Allhumdolilla For Islam Was Jesus created? This the muslim logic. In the BEGINNING was the WORD, and the WORD was WITH GOD and the WORD was WAS GOD. How did God create the earth?....He SPOKE and it was. = His WORD. Last time I checked allah's word is ETERNAL and SEPARTE from allah. Now you can see Jesus is ETERNAL ...AMEN!!
@Allhumdolilla For Islam Hello,, is that why Jesus said BEFORE Abraham was I AM. He was there BEFORE creation. He can down in flesh form. John 1:14 And the WORD BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us... Lol, even your prophet ''let the cat out of the bag'' about the divinity of Jesus. I do believe it says in sura 4:17 a MESSENGER of allah, AND HIS WORD, which HE bestowed on mary, AND a SPIRIT proceedING from HIM. Is allah's WORD eternal? Is allah's WORD seprarate from allah? Did you catch the SPIRIT proceedING..meaning continuing ALWAYS So now we have the FATHER(GOD) the Son= Jesus and the HOLY SPIRIT BAMM the Triune God. Oh and Merry Christmas
That's how people who are in darkness (zolom) will not be able to distinguish between a stick and a snake (will not be able to distinguish between truth and falsehood), he will think of a snake as a stick and then he holds the 'stick' then his hand is pecked, then he dies. Indeed, those who are in darkness are the disbelievers, who will only deceive by their own stupidity, but are not aware of themselves. This is also what Socrates once described about cavemen who live in darkness, never seeing light, making it difficult to accept the truth. So blessed is he who is in the bright light, he can tell the difference between a stick and a snake. So that he is safe. Greetings to Bro Mansur and everyone who follows the bright light's lead.
Guys do you what is funny about this debate is it when bob or cartoon starts to talk a cow from behind says yeahhhhhhhhhh yeaaaaohhhhhhh 😂😂. I dont know why bob or cartoon having a cow with him in the park and cow is holding a camera 😂😂
Yar mansur bhai u bashed him hard.. may Allah’rabul’izat give u highest ranks in jannah.. may Allah accept your righteous preaching and reward u in best way possible ♥️
John 5:19. Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself...........; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
I remember once rabbi Tovia Singer said, " The reason that church doesn't teach their students Hebrew as we Jews teach to our childrens is just because if they read the original word of God in Hebrew, they'll leave church immediately and embrace Jerusalem." Enoichi, Enoichi... "I am", "I am" Think for a moment, use your mind, if God wants to make a connection to the people that there is no one else besides him, there is no Trinity, there is no other divine person besides me, what would God replace in the entire Bible? Or think you're God and you're writing a Bible for the world that there is no other person besides me, what you'll write? Answer...
biblehub.com/hebrews/1-9.htm Remember the Isaiah verse about YHWH being the first and the last, none was with him and none after him, yet the son has companions and a god? Conclusion, Jesus Is Not the true god of israel...
Bob claimed that- Jesus asked his disciples as the following: "You have to honour me as you honour God". Bob concluded from that : Jesus is God. Honouring Jesus in this way itself points to Jesus and God being different! For example, if I ask someone to give me as much respect as he does to my father, can that make myself my father! This is the level of absurdity which is covered in the name of mysterious Trinitarianism!
that just shows distinction which is what trinity teaches if you give your father the same respect it means there is a special link between you too thats need to be respected in the same way that is what jesus says you honor the son like you honour the father same way
Strange how people can actually fight for things they formulate themselves, the clear evidence they ignore, but somehow draws their own conclusions of scripture that does not give any such indications as to what they make. May Allah guide them to the straight path in sha Allah ameen
from this debate what i say to BOB is... i pray to you BOB to start and read Al-Quranulkarim from beginning until the last word of it... and 1 day hoping, he getting Hidayah from Allah swt and who ever reading this (non muslim). we want the right path in our life... In Shaa Allah...
Bob tried the best arguments from Bible No Christian scholars ever brought them but they were not clear and explicit as it should be from Jesus P himself therefore BOB lost this debate. Mansur provided all proof from BIBLE to refute BOB.
15:13… you can see them shaking their heads and he’s not even finished….. they’re ready to deny and mid interpret the claims of Christ. Someone please explain to the Muslims that Jesus NEVER SAYS I am God In DIRECT WORDS ! He said in in many INDIRECT ways. Omg
When we hear the disbelievers speak, we see how true the following verses of the Qur'an are. - "Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment." - (Qur'an, Al-Baqarah, The Cow [2]:6+7 of 286)
ALPHA AND OMEGA REFUTED.. - (Revelation 1:1) The REVELATION of Jesus Christ, which GOD GAVE HIM to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated {it} by His angel to His bond-servant John, (NRSV) >>Remember, that God gave this Revelation to Jesus Christ. If Jesus is "God" who is in heaven, why need another God to gave him this Revelation??? This only shows that God is different, distinct, and separate with Jesus. -( Revelation 1:8) “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” (NRSV) >>This verse pertains to God our Creator and not to Jesus (peace be upon him), because the word which is said "Alpha and the Omega" is link to the word "The Lord God" and "the Almighty. Never did Jesus was referred or was called "the Almighty" because this words only to be referred to the One and Only True God. He is the First which has no beginning and He is the Last which has no end..
Since Bob was talking about the book of Revelation, Alright case closed!: We agree that the god of Christianity is a Lamb god. Revelation 5: 6. "Then I saw a lamb, looking as if had been slain, standing at the centre of The throne" Ok! You have seen a lamb. Let's see how this lamb's looks like.... 7. "The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes,.." What? 7 horns and 7 eyes?? This is freaky! And I'm just curious, I wanna know more about this Lamb... 15. "The 4 living creatures said 'Amen'...." Said Amen? Amen to who to the Lamb? To the Animal?? Ok!! 14. "..... And elders fell down and worshipped." Revelation 17:14 "They will wage a war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them..." Why? "...Because He is the Lord of lords and the King of kings. ..." The Lamb here is the Lord of lords and the King of kings.
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4063 It was narrated that Al-Hasan said: "The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'" أَخْبَرَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بِشْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدٌ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنِ الْحَسَنِ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " مَنْ بَدَّلَ دِينَهُ فَاقْتُلُوهُ " . قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ وَهَذَا أَوْلَى بِالصَّوَابِ مِنْ حَدِيثِ عَبَّادٍ . Allah give permision to kill. Jesus christ give forgivness. I follow jesus christ.
Since when was Yahweh known as Jesus to Moses and the Israelites? Notice how Bob kept saying Yahweh or Jesus making it clear that he believes they're 2 different entities. Let's not forget that Paul never met Jesus so how is he telling people that Jesus claimed to be alpha and omega when even the 4 gospels don't record him uttering this statement despite being from 'eye witnesses'. How did Paul come by it? Simple refutations
start from 5 minutes and you see that br mansur have some mistaken about the verse but he still manage to correct himself from the help of their cameraman but then Bob the builder out of nowhere comes to attack br mansur mistake that br mansur himself already corrected. The meaning is still the same. Jesus questioning why someone is call him good is basically the same of Jesus implies that he shouldn't be called the good because if he were meant to be called "The Good" then why he even questioning.
Also in minute 13 Bob says that mansur "narrowed the categories of permissible evidence" mate thats the topic. either you misunderstand,doesn't listen,or just stupid.(pick one because you can't pick all of them otherwise you wouldn't worth to be listened to)
@@jawadiahmad7180 I don't think you understood the point being made Jesus is questioning why he was called "good" as a point of reflection Jesus is asking this question as he recognises himself as good (referring to himself as the "good" shepherd in another chapter) and he wants the questioner to make the connection that if he is good and only god can be good, then Jesus must be god i hope this makes sense and clears up any confusion from the debate
Subhanallah, how can someone keep ignoring truth, d dude agreed that Jesus said the father is the only true God in the Bible and yet he's coming form all angles to disprove what Jesus's said.
How confused are these people? On one hand there's jesus saying hes the good Sheppard and the first and the last...but at the same time he blatantly says father is the only true God. I know which statement is black and white and which is ambiguous lol
Problem with Christianity is this. 2 central doctrine of Christianity is not mentioned in the Bible they have. Assumed or only implied vaguely. Impossible to present in any intellectual debate 1.Trinity 2.Jesus as God
He is emphasizing so much about “ i am good” let’s see what Jesus said ab good Mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
"Good master, what shall I do for eternal life? And Jesus answered, "Why do you call me GOOD? NO ONE is GOOD except GOD ALONE"" Imagine that man called Jesus "God" what would be the response of Jesus, if that man called 'God'. Like .. "God (Jesus), what shall I do for eternal life? And God (Jesus) answered "NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE" Is this a joke?
May i suggest that we have the Jews around whenever such debate take place, as Bob many times misquoting and put words in the Jews mouth when debating about god.
I loved to see bob arguing. Which is bring the christianity into confusing religion. Thank you bob, your argument, your interpret and your way of thinking is absolutly ignorant
People arguing over man made religion, my question is, why did God make so many different religions and know that humans will kill each other over which one is correct, allot of questions that can not be answered, so I do believe in God based on the beginning of the Universe, something can not come from nothing, but I think God just created everything and left it be, I could be wrong or I could be right, who knows???
diffrence between bible and the Quran
Bible: according to...
Quran : Allah says..
Nice 1
Allah says?? Are you sure, Who speaking to your Prophet? proclaiming Angel of Gabriel..
Jeffrey Ermino the quran is the word of god. God gave it to jabriel to send down to mohamed.
that was clover well done 🙂
@@jeffreyermino5510 Read your bible before you make a statement like that....(i'm paraphrasing) Jesus said in the bible many false prophet wil come but the one that recognize me as Messiah is truely a spirit of truth ( prophet).... sooo tell me who is the only one recognize Jesus peace and blessings upon Him as a Messiah? Our beloved Mohammed peace and blessings upon Him.
Hahahha Bob got dismantled and keeps saying 'dodging questions'. No Bob, he is not.
So that they may know YOU, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, of whom you have sent.
*Using the same logic in other sentences* :
So that they may know YOU, the only true Principal of this school, and, the Teachers, of whom you lead.
So that they may know YOU, the only true President of this country, and Female X, of whom is your wife.
*What Christians is confused with* :
Because Jesus Christ says "YOU, the only true God, *and* Jesus Christ," then this means that he is also the One true God as well, along with the Father.
*What Christians don't realize is* :
If the verse was to mean that Jesus Christ was the same true God as the Father then its sentence would be structured like this....
"So that they may know YOU *and* ME, the only true Gods."
*Conclusion* :
Christians misread in applying their understanding of the word 'and'.
You don't say "so that they may know YOU, the only true President of this country, and Female x, of whom you love as your wife" and say that his wife is also the President *UNLESS* it says, "so that they may know you AND your wife, the true Presidents of this country."
Sorry but he clearly is more out of misunderstanding of what the text he quotes actually means in context.
@@shoottothrill1 Nah. The only reason why we wont be able to understand the bible the way you do is because biblical english and classical english are completely different. So different in fact that not even english speakers can understand it unless they are told to forget their english knowledge.
@@shaami8622 . Not really, all religious texts are a product of their time when language was communicated differently just take the difference between Greek & Latin as an example. The point made about Psalms being a poetry style is a good example of this because poets were the historians of the past. Things get written to convey a message to your audience and it's for them to find that for themselves. me personally I approached looking at all of this from a historical perspective which is the only way I can understand most of it.
@@shoottothrill1 "... look through it in the hystorical perspective", got it. Thanks for the tip.
Alhamdulillah I am a Muslim
Finally Bob the cartoon character admitted there is no clear passage were Christ says he is the God of Israel.
ALHAMD ALLAH
Bob has no shame. How many lies would it take to for him to feel shame?
I say nothing. When somebody stops respecting God, the one who created them, there is nothing that is left to have a respect for.
Prove him wrong!?
Bob is smart...
@@unclelu1173 bob smart with lier smart never read al quran smart talk bad rude to muslim smart with hate islam in his heart.
You don't have to prove him qrong his just a blatant liar
Jesus saying he's the good shepherd. In what way is that equal to him saying he's the one and only true God of Isreal??? Seriously??? What a weak argument Bob!
He was saying because "why do you call me good? None is good but God alone" so if he says he's good, therefore he's God.
I guess when Jesus says ''I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end is also weak argument?
@@armourofgod6310 You mean when he was quoting the Torah?
@@armourofgod6310 who told you Jesus said that and not the father? That's in the old testament correct. Jesus is not metioned in the old testament. So where do you get that nonsense from. Jesus worshiped God. Explain that one lol.
@easin haque lol
Mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good, except God alone."
John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."
Bob's argument: Since only God can be called good, then Jesus must be God, because he's called the good shepherd.
Problem with Bob's argument: The words used in Greek are different. Both are translated to mean "good", but the verses use different Greek words.
Mark 10:18:4 agathon & Mark 10:18:8 agathon
John 10:11:4 kalos & John 10:11:7 kalos
agathon according to Strong's Greek 18: A primary word; 'good'.
kalos according to Strong's Greek 2570: Properly, beautiful, but chiefly good, i.e. Valuable or virtuous.
Because kalos can have different meanings, there's no case to be made: the words differ, and this is problematic for Bob's argument. It would've worked if the words were the same, but since they're different, then the translation of kalos into "good" is selective, and can just as well be interpreted to mean something else (such as virtuous or beautiful). Synonyms in languages often have a very similar meaning, but in most cases, there will be a subtle difference in the etymology, application, form, and meanings in common usage, which is why the other word exists in the first place. It's rare to have two different words in a language with the exact same meaning. Bob's argument doesn't hold up. His arguments tend to be weak anyway.
And his argument leads to a performative contradiction. Replace "good" with "God" in both verses. Jesus denies being God, and says that God alone is God, and then he says that he is God, the shepherd. These statements contradict one another. He's either God, or he's not. He can't both be God and not God simultaneously.
Bobbie points out that God describes Himself as a shepherd in Ezekiel. This is just another weak (supporting) argument. According to that logic, any man who's described to be a shepherd (or actually is one), should therefor be divine. Likewise, God is described as being the husband of Israel, so is every husband God? Is every father a deity? Bob's point has to be dismissed. The confidence with which he's preaching this utter nonsense is quite impressive.
Listen to his nonsense: (God being described as a shepherd) "is an archetype in the Jewish paradigm". It's not an archetype, it's a similitude. It's hardly a paradigm, as this analogy isn't that common at all. It appears, but to say it's a paradigm is unwarranted. I'd much sooner put God being the Lord and/or Owner as a paradigm. God as Lord (of creation) isn't an analogy either, but a proper name and title and attribute. Bob's just full of crap, throwing fancy words around to appear more clever than he actually is.
Bob argues that God is the First and the Last in the Old Testament, and Jesus is the First and the Last in the New Testament. The latter is from the Book of Revelations, which is basically an unknown author recording a dream he had. In the dream, Jesus (quote, unquote) says that he's the First and the Last. To take this and claim that: "Jesus said that he was the First and the Last" is unacceptable. It isn't Jesus speaking; just some unknown person attributing statements to Jesus, based on a weird dream he's had. We can completely deconstruct this argument from a rational theological perspective, but since the 'quote' doesn't actually originate from Jesus(as), then that will suffice. This just goes on and on. Nonsense upon nonsense, supported by nonsense. In my opinion, it's just a weak and futile attempt to argue for an anthropomorphic, polytheistic theology that isn't supported whatsoever by the ancient Hebrew literature. Bob fails miserably.
Amazing you truly deconstructed Bobs' nonsensical argument. Jazakalaahu khayr.
do you know greek not seen many muslim that know greek and kalos and agathon can mean samething and shepherd is a title god is called husband of israel which only god can do not normal human being it has metaphorical meaning even then and jesus wasnt denying he was good he trying to make the questioner think if i am good then you should see me as god because only god is good he didnt say i am not good only god is good and no revelations is by john and it is a prophetic revelation and in it jesus is speaking if you reject revelation reject Muhammad revalation too and it is not polythiestic together they make one god and besides rejects divinity doesnt lead to islam you can be jehovah witness or unitarian if you have prove muhammad prophethood
@@jayd4ever bro stfu please Jesus didn’t even speak Greek 😂😂
Ma sha Allah good explanation. Can I get ur email address?
Even if Jesus pbuh came back and SLAPPED Butthurt Bob the Liar and told him I AM *NOT* GOD !!! Butthurt Bob would still say NOTICE he said I AM so you ARE GOD!! 🤦🏽🤦🏾♀️🤦🏿🤦🏻♀️🤦🏼🤦♀️
Only Bob can formulate an idea that Jesus said i am God in the verse where person approached Jesus and said " O My Good teacher what i must do to inherit an eternal life?" Jesus said " Why are you calling me good when there is none good but God alone! How in the world can any rational person interpret that to mean that Jesus said I am God? Imagine a person comes to you and He or She says the same thing to you "O My good teacher what do i have to do to Inherit eternal life", and you say Why are you calling me good when there is none good but God alone. This statement by that person would in today's language be " Hey man don't you know i am just a teacher and just a man, Only God is completely good and none else.
Bob was correcting Mansur's erroneous assertion that Jesus *commanded* the rich man in the story "don't call me good".
Rather, Jesus *asked* "why call me good?", *confirms* "no one is good except God alone" and *asserts* the man knows the 10 commandments.
The rich man, who called Jesus "good teacher" does not answer Jesus' question. He makes no explanation of why Jesus is "good".
Instead, the rich man asserts himself and boasts, that he has obeyed the 10 commandments since he was young.
Jesus responds that he needs *"only one thing"* to give up his riches *"and follow me"* .
Remember the rich man's original question, "what must I do to receive eternal life?".
The rich man walked away. He ignored Jesus not once but twice, in not answering Jesus' question to him and rejecting Jesus' instruction to him to give up his previous life and belief and follow Him.
Jesus comments "how hard it will be for rich people to enter the Kingdom of God".
Jesus asks "why". Like Mansur, the rich man failed to understand the significance of that question.
@@latexcitizenx He was asking a man why do you call me good when there is none good accept God alone. Then Man repeated the question again knowing fully well that Jesus did not like this man to call Him good. So, "Man asked again "O Teacher what do i have to do to do to inherit eternal life".
@@godisgreat2135 What I notice is that the rich man did not repeat his original question. Please, give reference to the verse.
While I agree that the rich man dropped "good" when addressing Jesus a second time, I notice also that rather than directly, sincerely and truthfully, answer the question Jesus asked of him, he made judgement that this question was instruction, and asserted his obedience to the 10 commandments.
Jesus does not force his original question, or question the rich man's assertion of obedience to the commandments. He then gives his answer to the the Rich man's question, which is to give up his riches and follow "me".
ALHAMD ALLAH for those who have a clear heart and mind can clearly see Bob got EXPOSED.
ALHAMD ALLAH FOR ISLAM
breaking news muslim thinks muslim guy won the debate
how much it it is to take Bob to realize that Jesus was a human messenger and a prophet peace be upon him ,and not a God.
even jesus disiples calling him lord show he was god was any other prophet called lord in old testament do muslims call Muhammad lord
We can say the same thing for the other guy…. When will he understand that Jesus claimed to be God..
this is the janazah of cartoon character 😂😂😂
😀
Bob the 'Gob' not the 'Builder'. The King of creating confusion by twisting debates & only making sense to the senseless.
hhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol XD . THE GOb XD . Goblin
Very well said
The more I learn about christianity the more I get confused. Apparently Jesus talk about himself when he refers to 'god', and when he refers to 'the father', and when he refers to 'the son'. What a great paradox!
Because you are compering bible with Qur'an brother their is different between this two.the different is love and hate ,Jesus and religious,saved and deeds.
Hmd , exactly, I am also confused , perfect word that should used is PARADOX. FATHER IS ONLY TRUE GOD , FATHER SENT JESUS , FATHER KNOWS THE LAST HOUR , FATHER IS ONLY GOOD .
@@gardeneden5777 😂, u made u more confuse .
Remember the debate is on "Does Christ claims in black and white statement that Jesus is the Only true God of Israel"
Man I love Mansoor ♥️
Good on Bob to have improved significantly with his debating with regards to respect. I hope inshallah he embraces Islam one day. I'll never give up on Bob, and neither should any of you. He might very well become a Muslim.
Yes I too love mansoor with coming with utter foolishness in counter argument thinking he has outsmarted Bob but rather humiliated himself further even to an extent of a fool...
if you really thought bob won you are the fool. Also jesus doesnt even at all claim to be God by calling himself good because when he says only god is good he uses the word agathos for good, and when he calls HIMSELF good he uses the word kalos. agathos and kalos have similar but different meaning and since it was translated from aramaic to different words, clearly jesus meant two different things, like good and kind, or anger and hate.@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu
@@AbdullahArguer This is why God said I will trap the so called wise in their wisdom coz God's foolishness is much greater then so called wisdom of man, clearly you haven't understood the gospel, when the man came to Jesus & said Good teacher, jesus did not say don't call me good rather said why do you call me good? There's a question mark ❓behind & jesus continues no one is good except my father in heaven so the reader here need to think why did the man called jesus good coz the man had not seen the father but the son doing good he understood what it means to be good that's the reason jesus said The father is in me & I in the father the Muslims don't understand these verse coz Muhammad the demon following his master Iblis ( Shaitan) has blocked their mind to understand the truth...
@@FrancisFernandes-mv3xu he doesnt need to say dont call me good just him questioning the mans decision to call him good shows it was bad, i understand the i and the father are one thing but if the son and the father are one in essence the verse that says the father is the only true God is a complete contridiction, also no god is not a fool and doesnt have foolishness. So for your argument to work you must believe that the son IS COMPLETELY the father and the father is COMPLETELY the son, not persons, but no trinity just 3 titles for the same god
@@AbdullahArguer Let me get you busted in one sentence of yours as I read you say jesus said, 'The only true God is Father' do you believe those words of Jesus if so then you don't believe in Allah coz in kor'an Allah is father to none, defend yourself now the ball is in your court...
Asalaamailikum rahmatulah warahmatullah! Bob can try to appealed,he was destroyed by brother mansur once again.
وإليكم السلم ورحمة الله وبركاته
I am more muslim than before this video.Alhamdulillah and thanks to brother Mansour.
where muhammad prophethood shown
😂 @ Mansur saying to the cartoon character at the end, “Congratulations of making Jesus the Father. This is a Christian heresy.” Mansur is truly brilliant.
he is deceptive Christians dont believe Jesus is the father but the son yet Muslims want Jesus to say he is only true god of israel christians only believe jesus is god in unity with the father and spirit not on his own
I love Bob... He is a good comedian 😂😂😂😂
We all should respect Bob as a good comedian 😂😂😂😂
And also we should give him an ascar prize for best comedian
Yes I love Bob too the way he screws these abdools & humiliate them they have no truth to defend so they start crying to their moon God hubal called Islamic allah...
*May be the cartoon characters are not logical and consistent* 😂😂😂😂😂
Mansur said him Mr. Cartoon character...hahaha...Bob the builder
Bob got knocked out......
By who 😂?
bob is a liar
lol poor bob. you have to changes your bible first then youll win.
Bob got Bodied.
Bob is majnoon!
What is majnoon brother?
@@MichaelMyerSick crazy
so where is laila ?
1 Peter 1:17
Since you call on a Father who judges each man's work impartially, live your lives as strangers here in reverent fear.
I am the first & the last to belive listen
This layer who goes against his scripture. Brother mansoor taught him
Well. Masha allah. Keep it up.
JESUS is NOT A GOD
OF SON OF GOD
Jesus is a messenger/profhet
not a GOD
The ayah he asked for taking hadeeth
«وما آتاكم الرسول فخذوه وما نهاكم عنه فانتهوا»
Surat al hashr , ayah 7.....alhamdu le Allah every question has an answer very logical in sweet Islam..
Bob wants a Qur'anic verse to mention the following of ahadith (recorded actions and sayings of Prophet Muhammad pbuh):
The believers are] those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find written down with them in the Torah and the Gospel, commanding them to do right and forbidding them to do wrong, making good things lawful for them and bad things forbidden for them, relieving them of their heavy loads and the chains that were around them. Those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the Light that has been sent down with him are successful. (Surat al-A`raf: 157)
Even if Jesus pbuh came back and SLAPPED Butthurt Bob the Liar and told him I AM *NOT* GOD !!! Butthurt Bob would still say NOTICE he said I AM so you ARE GOD!! 🤦🏽🤦🏾♀️🤦🏿🤦🏻♀️🤦🏼🤦♀️
Alhamdulillah I'm Muslim
Mansur whenever he starts his 3mins to answer : bismillah and answers all bobs claims
Bob as he starts his statement :didn't answer my questions .
...Repeats
This was a SMACK DOWN....poor, poor Mansur
@Karl Kani yes it's called SALVATION...everyone needs it, but not everyone wants it.
@Allhumdolilla For Islam Was Jesus created? This the muslim logic.
In the BEGINNING was the WORD, and the WORD was WITH GOD and the WORD was WAS GOD.
How did God create the earth?....He SPOKE and it was. = His WORD.
Last time I checked allah's word is ETERNAL and SEPARTE from allah.
Now you can see Jesus is ETERNAL ...AMEN!!
@Allhumdolilla For Islam Hello,, is that why Jesus said BEFORE Abraham was I AM. He was there BEFORE creation. He can down in flesh form.
John 1:14
And the WORD BECAME FLESH and dwelt among us...
Lol, even your prophet ''let the cat out of the bag'' about the divinity of Jesus.
I do believe it says in sura 4:17
a MESSENGER of allah, AND HIS WORD, which HE bestowed on mary, AND a SPIRIT
proceedING from HIM.
Is allah's WORD eternal? Is allah's WORD seprarate from allah?
Did you catch the SPIRIT proceedING..meaning continuing ALWAYS
So now we have the FATHER(GOD) the Son= Jesus and the HOLY SPIRIT
BAMM the Triune God. Oh and Merry Christmas
@Allhumdolilla For Islam so WHO is Jesus Father?
@Allhumdolilla For Islam so your saying Jesus never existed BEFORE He came in flesh form? Love to hear this one;)
The most hilarious one is the one who say ya ya ya 🤦🏻♂️🤣
That's how people who are in darkness (zolom) will not be able to distinguish between a stick and a snake (will not be able to distinguish between truth and falsehood), he will think of a snake as a stick and then he holds the 'stick' then his hand is pecked, then he dies. Indeed, those who are in darkness are the disbelievers, who will only deceive by their own stupidity, but are not aware of themselves. This is also what Socrates once described about cavemen who live in darkness, never seeing light, making it difficult to accept the truth.
So blessed is he who is in the bright light, he can tell the difference between a stick and a snake. So that he is safe.
Greetings to Bro Mansur and everyone who follows the bright light's lead.
was that holly ghost at the back that said yeeeeaaa, yeeeeeaa,
That's a zombie making sounds, or a cow
Yeah it was the holy spirit aka the shaytan
Bob is the kind of guy that can give you 100 definitions of the color of a stone. 🤣
this is the prove that God is great and will forever be great stay blessed mansur
Mashallah brother Mansur may Allah bless you abundant
Guys do you what is funny about this debate is it when bob or cartoon starts to talk a cow from behind says yeahhhhhhhhhh yeaaaaohhhhhhh 😂😂.
I dont know why bob or cartoon having a cow with him in the park and cow is holding a camera 😂😂
Bob got knocked out! Lol
i love bob! He has so much energy haha.. May Allah brinh him to the straight path
Ameen.
Who loves somebody he is the same of him
Yar mansur bhai u bashed him hard.. may Allah’rabul’izat give u highest ranks in jannah.. may Allah accept your righteous preaching and reward u in best way possible ♥️
Bob should have retired after this debate
John 5:19. Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself...........; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.
I remember once rabbi Tovia Singer said, " The reason that church doesn't teach their students Hebrew as we Jews teach to our childrens is just because if they read the original word of God in Hebrew, they'll leave church immediately and embrace Jerusalem."
Enoichi, Enoichi... "I am", "I am"
Think for a moment, use your mind, if God wants to make a connection to the people that there is no one else besides him, there is no Trinity, there is no other divine person besides me, what would God replace in the entire Bible?
Or think you're God and you're writing a Bible for the world that there is no other person besides me, what you'll write? Answer...
13:25 Why doe’s Sicko Soco keep making noises like a dying Cow??? 🤔🤦🏽😂
Bob the liar.can not anser it
Mad mad bob the LIAR
How can you people commenting not see that Mansur is avoiding the questions from the Christian.
because they are muslim and the muslim guy must always win and be right
Hebrews 1:8
"But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."
biblehub.com/hebrews/1-9.htm
Remember the Isaiah verse about YHWH being the first and the last, none was with him and none after him, yet the son has companions and a god? Conclusion, Jesus Is Not the true god of israel...
Correct… and in John Jesus says “glorify in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began”….
Bob , you just nail it everytime 🎉🎉🎉!
i love islam ..ilove mohammad (saw) as a propet and ilove ALLAH as a true and only one true GOD..
The Jewish concept and Islamic concept of God is the worthy of worship as Bob earlier admitted that "Jewish concept Monotheism".
Funny...I can hear the voice of evil saying yeah...yesss..like a moaning....
"Ladies and gentlemen Mansur has not answered the question"
Even tho he clearly heard him answer. I mean how can someone be soo dumb.😆
Bob claimed that- Jesus asked his disciples as the following: "You have to honour me as you honour God".
Bob concluded from that : Jesus is God.
Honouring Jesus in this way itself points to Jesus and God being different!
For example, if I ask someone to give me as much respect as he does to my father, can that make myself my father!
This is the level of absurdity which is covered in the name of mysterious Trinitarianism!
that just shows distinction which is what trinity teaches if you give your father the same respect it means there is a special link between you too thats need to be respected in the same way that is what jesus says you honor the son like you honour the father same way
Strange how people can actually fight for things they formulate themselves, the clear evidence they ignore, but somehow draws their own conclusions of scripture that does not give any such indications as to what they make. May Allah guide them to the straight path in sha Allah ameen
Ameen.
Alhamdulilah for Islam
from this debate what i say to BOB is... i pray to you BOB to start and read Al-Quranulkarim from beginning until the last word of it... and 1 day hoping, he getting Hidayah from Allah swt and who ever reading this (non muslim). we want the right path in our life... In Shaa Allah...
*Bob the LIAR aka Bob the Cowboy Builder adds a new alias as Bodger the Dodger!*
Subhanallah Allah hu Akbar
Allah is the greatest Alhamdulilah
Bob tried the best arguments from Bible No Christian scholars ever brought them but they were not clear and explicit as it should be from Jesus P himself therefore BOB lost this debate. Mansur provided all proof from BIBLE to refute BOB.
No wonder why so many Christian became atheist and agnostic. Christianity is the other name of greatest confusion
15:13… you can see them shaking their heads and he’s not even finished….. they’re ready to deny and mid interpret the claims of Christ.
Someone please explain to the Muslims that Jesus NEVER SAYS I am God In DIRECT WORDS ! He said in in many INDIRECT ways. Omg
When we hear the disbelievers speak, we see how true the following verses of the Qur'an are. - "Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment." - (Qur'an, Al-Baqarah, The Cow [2]:6+7 of 286)
ALPHA AND OMEGA REFUTED..
- (Revelation 1:1) The REVELATION of Jesus Christ, which GOD GAVE HIM to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated {it} by His angel to His bond-servant John, (NRSV)
>>Remember, that God gave this Revelation to Jesus Christ. If Jesus is "God" who is in heaven, why need another God to gave him this Revelation??? This only shows that God is different, distinct, and separate with Jesus.
-( Revelation 1:8) “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” (NRSV)
>>This verse pertains to God our Creator and not to Jesus (peace be upon him), because the word which is said "Alpha and the Omega" is link to the word "The Lord God" and "the Almighty. Never did Jesus was referred or was called "the Almighty" because this words only to be referred to the One and Only True God. He is the First which has no beginning and He is the Last which has no end..
Since Bob was talking about the book of Revelation,
Alright case closed!: We agree that the god of Christianity is a Lamb god.
Revelation 5:
6. "Then I saw a lamb, looking as if had been slain, standing at the centre of The throne"
Ok! You have seen a lamb. Let's see how this lamb's looks like....
7. "The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes,.."
What? 7 horns and 7 eyes?? This is freaky! And I'm just curious, I wanna know more about this Lamb...
15. "The 4 living creatures said 'Amen'...."
Said Amen? Amen to who to the Lamb? To the Animal?? Ok!!
14. "..... And elders fell down and worshipped."
Revelation 17:14
"They will wage a war against the Lamb, but the Lamb will triumph over them..."
Why?
"...Because He is the Lord of lords and the King of kings. ..."
The Lamb here is the Lord of lords and the King of kings.
it is metaphorical representing jesus
Sunan an-Nasa'i 4063
It was narrated that Al-Hasan said:
"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"
أَخْبَرَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بِشْرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا سَعِيدٌ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ، عَنِ الْحَسَنِ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم " مَنْ بَدَّلَ دِينَهُ فَاقْتُلُوهُ " . قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ وَهَذَا أَوْلَى بِالصَّوَابِ مِنْ حَدِيثِ عَبَّادٍ .
Allah give permision to kill.
Jesus christ give forgivness.
I follow jesus christ.
Since when was Yahweh known as Jesus to Moses and the Israelites? Notice how Bob kept saying Yahweh or Jesus making it clear that he believes they're 2 different entities. Let's not forget that Paul never met Jesus so how is he telling people that Jesus claimed to be alpha and omega when even the 4 gospels don't record him uttering this statement despite being from 'eye witnesses'. How did Paul come by it?
Simple refutations
bob did better in this debate now he has defeated humza,mansur,shamsi, ali dawah and muhammad hijab now they are all running only hashim is doing good
start from 5 minutes and you see that br mansur have some mistaken about the verse but he still manage to correct himself from the help of their cameraman but then Bob the builder out of nowhere comes to attack br mansur mistake that br mansur himself already corrected. The meaning is still the same. Jesus questioning why someone is call him good is basically the same of Jesus implies that he shouldn't be called the good because if he were meant to be called "The Good" then why he even questioning.
Also in minute 13 Bob says that mansur "narrowed the categories of permissible evidence" mate thats the topic. either you misunderstand,doesn't listen,or just stupid.(pick one because you can't pick all of them otherwise you wouldn't worth to be listened to)
@@jawadiahmad7180
I don't think you understood the point being made
Jesus is questioning why he was called "good" as a point of reflection
Jesus is asking this question as he recognises himself as good (referring to himself as the "good" shepherd in another chapter) and he wants the questioner to make the connection that if he is good and only god can be good, then Jesus must be god
i hope this makes sense and clears up any confusion from the debate
NO..... Bob the Lier Clown..... NO😂😂😂
Subhanallah, how can someone keep ignoring truth, d dude agreed that Jesus said the father is the only true God in the Bible and yet he's coming form all angles to disprove what Jesus's said.
I dont know or understand why the trinitarian concept is so confusing to muslims!
The more christians talk the more we think its full.of nonsense..thanks bob lol
How confused are these people? On one hand there's jesus saying hes the good Sheppard and the first and the last...but at the same time he blatantly says father is the only true God. I know which statement is black and white and which is ambiguous lol
Problem with Christianity is this.
2 central doctrine of Christianity is not mentioned in the Bible they have.
Assumed or only implied vaguely.
Impossible to present in any intellectual debate
1.Trinity
2.Jesus as God
He is emphasizing so much about “ i am good” let’s see what Jesus said ab good Mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.
he is making him think the significance of what he is saying he didn't say i am not good no one is good except god alone
Jesus said No one comes to the Father except through me.
It has to be "the only true God".. Not only "God"... What the hack? What difference does it make? God is God..
Mansur is the smartest
The strategy is.. Bob just want have video from this disscussion, edited, cut 2 cut, then show to their channel.
"Good master, what shall I do for eternal life? And Jesus answered, "Why do you call me GOOD?
NO ONE is GOOD except GOD ALONE""
Imagine that man called Jesus "God" what would be the response of Jesus, if that man called 'God'. Like .. "God (Jesus), what shall I do for eternal life? And God (Jesus) answered "NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALONE"
Is this a joke?
May i suggest that we have the Jews around whenever such debate take place, as Bob many times misquoting and put words in the Jews mouth when debating about god.
the jews will say christianity and islam both false jesus is false messiah you dont need jews they rejected muhammad in medina and today
Mansur is a disrespecting bully!!!
Father is not going to be the judge but the son on the judgement day. Koran also says that.
Wan Tok yes you’re correct he’ll be the judge of the Christians whom said he is God
Dont you say they are one?so if the son is the one who judge then the father and the spirit will judge
@@mennavanessa you are wrong the only one who will judge is allah (islam)
The cameraman from the christians team is very childish.
I loved to see bob arguing. Which is bring the christianity into confusing religion. Thank you bob, your argument, your interpret and your way of thinking is absolutly ignorant
To address some one politely you say”why you calling me good” instead of “don’t call me good” which a bit harsher
And disciples of Jesus pbuh were very beloved to him so he was addressing them with respect
People arguing over man made religion, my question is, why did God make so many different religions and know that humans will kill each other over which one is correct, allot of questions that can not be answered, so I do believe in God based on the beginning of the Universe, something can not come from nothing, but I think God just created everything and left it be, I could be wrong or I could be right, who knows???
People make religions. The only Religion of God is Islam. See where Christian, Buddha, Hindu, Jew names come from.
Wow the cartoon character destroyed the other guy
sorry to say but bob's arguments are truly weak
Thank you Bob.
Father was honoured Jesus by honour killing.
No offense.
About (the alpha and the omega) verse
U know that john was dreaming while all of this happening. it was all a dream,jesus didnt say it in real life
Bob the Builder , what a name, is he body builder or building builder ? Or Lie builder.
Ask bob better get back to building like he had too... 🤦♂️🤦♂️
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