I fell in love with the GS the moment I laid my eyes on one but could never afford it. Thanks to your videos I at least, get to experience what it's like to ride in one. More two-wheeled power to you TMF! Cheers!
Couldn't agree more, I used to hate the look of the sticky out cylinders but then when I wanted a change from the tiger 1050, one of my mates said at least have a demo. Instantly loved it from the word go, it does everything I want a bike for, short or long rides I don't see me wanting to own anything else at present. Cheers for the vid, Karl.
Hi Karl - you obviously have brilliant taste (you may know I went from a Tiger 1050 to the GS as well). I loved the planted nature of the ol' Tiger and the engine was a peach, but the handling on the GS is in another league....as is pretty much everything else. Thanks for stopping by.....TMF
Another great video. Thanks for posting. I have a 2014 GS exactly like yours (except I have the spoke wheels) and absolutely love it. Your top 10 pretty much matches mine. I'd add the speed shifter (make the list into top eleven things?) which, IIRC you also retrofitted as I have. For anyone considering buying a GS, I think your videos are an excellent reference. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks again Sean - I find the Gear Shift Assist Pro a little clunky on the GS, although I love the downshifting the upshifting is nowhere near as good as on my Ducati or Triumph and have caused me one or two hairy moments with the gear failing to engage and the bike lurching at high speed....maybe I need to get mine looked at by the boffins at BMW...
Mr. Flyer, so glad you said the Gs is comfortable, after safety that’s my most important feature. I’m a short guy and the weight being low is a real benefit for me just sat on a 2019 1250 Gs in the store and although I was on the balls of my feet it felt very manageable. I may just buy it.
Totally agree with your top 4 TMF; not only is the electrickery good, it's easy to use and you don't have to dive into a multitude of sub-menus. Great pair of videos, well done👍 Cheers, Andy
+Andrew Tofts Thanks Andy, yes agreed, although the switchgear is a bit flimsy the usability of the electronics is great, completely agree (especially when compared with say the KTM equivalents)....thanks for watching and stopping by once again - TMF
+Mapother78 ....it all depends what you want the bike for, the MTS is a much quicker bike than the GS but on all other counts IMO the GS is the better bike (with the exception of looks!)....hope you agree! All the best - TMF
Thanks for doing this. I have the same model as you and the "Hate" video gave a wrong impression. It's a great bike and apart from the clunky g/b it is superb. Chris
No worries - I had posted loads of "love" videos before that one, I was surprised just how much people didn't like the "hate" one which was intended as being tongue-in-cheek as far as the title was concerned....oh well, one down to experience!
I had three bikes in mind, the R1200GS, Triumph Explorer or the Multistrada after 9 years on an FJR. Main use is going to be to tour Europe 2 up each year plus weekends away. I did also think about the RT but wanted something a little different this time.
my wife overheard your review and commented that 'he' isn't saying anything I don't already know...! there you go, a pillions point of view. My view, it's a truly awesome bike, so well balanced and has presence on the road, which I need on my daily commute. nice one TMF, thanks for a positive review.
Fantastic review! I don't own a bike but I want one and my mountain biking pals all have the 1200GS and rave about them. I need a Cafe Racer too though as and when. I've subscribed and look forward to watching many more. ATB Pete
Great video. 1, I love the road presence on the GS, I feel like Moses parting of the seas sometimes lol :-) 2, plus and minus, the amazing amount of stuff you can get for them :-0 there's always something else to add ;-)
i was so looking forward to seeing part ll 😃 thank you for sharing your inpressions on the GS. there are so many awesome things about the GS. you are right. it is hard to get them sorted in a top ten list... your video just started my weekend and i m just about to go on a ride with a friend of mine. so enjoy your weekend! by the way i did not dislike your 10 negativ things video about the gs 😉 cheers Tom
Thanks Tom, enjoy your ride....I'm guessing the weather where you are is better than the weather here....light drizzle now and deteriorating into the weekend :0(
Recently my 800 GS Adventure was in the shop for service and I took the shops 1200 GSA for the day. Everything you read and hear about the 1200 is true. It is a spectacular machine. So different from the 800, both good and bad. Glad you did a follow up to the top 10 dislike video awhile back. Was starting to think you didn't like the big old girl!!! Hated to give the 1200 back when mine was ready, now looking for an excuse to get one!!
I've got an '09 RT-P and I love the balance too, even at walking pace its easier to ride than my CBR 125, and its so flickable as well, was a massive surprise when I brought it, especially on the twisties
Yes the RT (I think) handles even better than the GS - the same lovely low down weight but somehow the engine seems smoother - if/when the GS goes it'll either be for another GS or an RT.....
Well the engine on my bike has been through 66k and since changing the oil last week (only had the bike for 3k miles) its so smooth I could almost fall asleep on it. Just make sure you keep the sidestand switch clean, mine stranded on the M6 by Stafford this afternoon, easy clean out once recovered though
I was wondering, if you had a good relationship with your bmw dealer, if so would you be able to take a gsa out for a comparative review, I know there are loads of reviews of it out there but I would like your perspective. Cheers
I tried the R9T, GS and GSA all on the same day. I actually found the GSA the easiest to ride. Ok, so it's seriously big, but any thing over 2 mph the weight disappears - so the low centre of gravity would be my number 1 too. The other thing I found was turning on the main headlight and fog lights - no one can say didn't see you. On the test ride traffic got out of the way when filtering, plus being high up makes it surprisingly good for filtering - as the gaps seem to open up - they need to, as it is wide. Anyway the guy at the dealership knew he had a sale as soon as I walked back in :) They had two white full specced GSAs sitting there. As for the "hates" - like you - cleaning it, lots of little bits that are hard to reach.
Yes agreed, these bikes have great presence on the road, especially with the auxiliary lights and panniers, like you say, not really an excuse to say "I didn't see you" although let's not rely on that as a safety tactic....!
I think that the No.1 thing about the GS is that it can the be the one and only bike for almost everything you might want to do. Want to go across Europe? You got it. Want to have a bit of offroad fun? It can cope with it pretty easily. Want to hit some b-roads and push it a little more? It will give a smile and you won't shit your pants. And if you take the panniers off and lower your expectations a bit, it can work in an urban environment as well
To be clear, that wasn't criticism on your video and on your list. Just making another point for the GS. Very interesting couple of videos, keep it up! The opinions of owners matter ten times what the magazines and the experts say.
Thanks for that, first trip was to Brackley bike festival, with the daughter on the back, she complained about the BMW top box had no back rest, so on this one the top box had one fitted (as you later fitted to yours) she complained it was too hard, looks like I am on a no winner with her!
Cheers Nick and yes good point - I admit I don't miss cleaning the chain on this one! ...although I do think the shaft drive is partly responsible for a slightly agricultural gear change....
+TheMissendenFlyer That you for all your time and effort in making such great a really informative videos 👍 they really helped in my decision to buy the GS. Just go back from a 70mile ride in big Cumbrian rain! Rain mode worked a treat even on the cattle grids 😬😬 and with brand new tyres! Can't wait to do some serious touring and maybe a bit off road!! Thanks again Stan 👊
I would more than happily ride it up to you anytime TMF.........I'm serious, would be lovely to see an honest review and comparison. What do you think.....just 4000 on her.
Good luck with your test Alan, they don't make it easy! You'll love the GS, although you might want to try something smaller/lighter for a few months whilst you learn your craft??
Absolutely live your videos mate, especially the ones regarding the Mighty GS. This is my dream bike and i absolutely fell in love more with it through your channel and the videos you made about it. Im soon to be 36, never rode motorcycles in my life (always was fascinated by them, tho) and decided to get my drivers licence. Now, that i finally got it, my quest for my first bike begins. No, it wont be the GS but at some point of time it will be :) Thanks, looking forward to your future videos. Question: Would you ever recommend the GS as a beginners bike?
Hi Sinisa - so glad you find my videos of interest, thanks for the kind words...much appreciated. Due to it's size and weight I wouldn't recommend the GS as a first bike....would be a great second one though! Congrats on passing your test, if I was in your position I'd buy a second hand 600-800cc bike to start with, live with it for a year and gain confidence, then move on to the mighty GS!
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Wow, tnx for the reply :) And thank you for the congrats :) Yup, i was thinking the same thing - i have my eyes on a used Kawasaki zr7 or ER5 maybe as my first bike. Drive it for a season or two then jump onto something serious. Of course, there are always financial questions, but the GS is my goal :) Keep it up with the videos and have a nice day! Cheers!
That makes sense n honestly if I weren't married I would have bought the big beemer . I did look at them but they were a bit more then I wanted to spend at the time . Anyway I enjoy ur videos so keep them coming and safe travels ...
you mentioned the multistrada as a comparison in this video and i am really thinking of buying one within the next weeks, may i ask you for your honest feedback about it ?!
+Raid Alshinibr Great bike, very quick but a little too tall/top heavy for my liking - check out my review in my reviews playlist (sorry don't have the link to hand..answering this via my phone!)
Good video I like the BMW's but just curious have you considered the triumph explorer ? I own a tiger 800 and find it to be a very nice bike but never rode a beemer so I can't really compare
Well I bought the GS before the big Trumpet was on the scene - it does seem to be a nice bike but more recent comparisons I have read in the press seem to still put the GS ahead of the big Tiger - I think the little 800 is in a class of it's own, a cracking bike by all accounts with that wonderful Triple engine....I'd take one of those over the new Yamaha Tracer any day :0)
Why not get yourself down to a BMW dealer and try one mate? the GS sits between the 2 weight wise and has a different character from the triple. The latest Explorer is an improvement on the previous one but cost wise is now closer to the GS. Both are great bikes but which one is better for you only you can decide.
Seeing as you're a Triumph man, I'd suggest you give the latest Explorer 1200 a test ride. I've got the 2015 model and can't really fault it. By all accounts the 2016 version is leaps ahead of it with all the "electrickery" you could ever want. Whether it's better than the GS, as someone else has said here is, something each individual has to decide for him/herself.
To be honest (and as you say I am a Triumph fan so please don't take this the wrong way) - I see the Triumph Explorer as a copy of the GS, as I said in the video, for me I'd rather have the real thing! ...not intending to criticise your choice of bike, just a personal thing... thanks for stopping by - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Fair enough. We can't all like the same bikes. Regarding the explorer being a copy, one could argue that all bikes (save perhaps those that are the first of their category) are all copies. I tend to like bikes that are the best at what they do and also fit my budget. I preferred the styling of the Explorer and it fit my budget while doing most of what the GS could... Different strokes for different folks as they say.
A great pair of videos. I hope I find the GS as comfortable as many say it is. I'd love to hire one to do the West coast of the States. Do you have any longer trips planned at all at the moment? I guess it'd be hush-hush even if you did. I'd love to see you do a decent Euro trip - down to the Med, or similar. I did enjoy your French tour. Keep up the good work! Cheers.
Thanks Rob - been a busy year flying so not too much chance for bike tours although I do have 4 days put aside next month to go somewhere...not sure where yet Wales/Scotland/Ireland or Europe beckon...depends on what the weather is doing. Stay tuned! Thanks for stopping by once again, all the best - TMF.
Ah fair dues. Good to hear you've managed to get some flying in. What were you flying out of curiosity, I think your last aircraft's number was up last I heard. I'm keen to get some time on a composite based plane, like a DA40 etc... I hear great things about them. 140kt cruise etc. Beats the Warrior's 90-93kt that's for sure.
Well you are right and our TB-10 has been scrapped (at least we believed it had but notice in this month's pilot magazine the outfit we sold it too as scrap claim they are going to get it flying again!).....so it's been PA28's for me this year, luckily I have a couple of mates that let me fly theirs, one a Warrior and one a Dakota so I'm keeping current. I flew a DA40 in Canada a couple of years back, great fun...
Ah that's interesting. They're hoping to revive it, eh. Was a pretty good-looking airplane IIRC. Nice, Canada - plenty of good flying to be done over there. Hope to visit Banff and BC one day. Great stuff TMF, thanks for answering my questions, have a great weekend!
Yeah it was out of BC (Edmonton) that I flew the DA40 as it happens....also visited Banff/Jasper (all the touristy bits of the Rockies) - would be brilliant to do by bike as well as light aeroplane....
Greetings from LA! thank you so much for these really informative and witty videos. I have been riding for two years now. Went from a Yamaha v star 650 to a Yamaha road star 1700 and I'm not a fan. On the freeway the RoadStar is just too loud even with ear plugs and full face helmet. After an hour ride my back kills me even with backrest! So I'm going sell both bikes and get a used GS1200. I think the engine noise will be much less and less wind too hopefully. Any specific years you can recommend or anyone else?? I'm probably looking between 2005-2010 for my budget. Then maybe after a few years save up for a newer model.
+moondog33 Hi Moondog33....I loved my time riding in LA last year, very envious of you! I think, just go for the newest model you can afford and you won't go far wrong...if you can stretch to a post 2013 liquid cooled model then do so as the bike was transformed with the new engine. Good luck with your search..all the best - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply and yes LA weather is great for bike riding. LA drivers though not so much as most are on their phones completely distracted. Will have to check out your LA vids now! Thanks for advice on looking for used GS. 2013 model would be nice - maybe I can find a good deal somewhere across the country and ride back to LA. :)
Good stuff - in case you couldn't find it the LA trip starts here >> th-cam.com/video/uAp5tluNKY8/w-d-xo.html then th-cam.com/video/5pn43N94F00/w-d-xo.html and if you're still awake >> th-cam.com/video/ZkzdQQ569yk/w-d-xo.html :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer Cheers for the links, I already watched the one of you carving 'The Snake' on Mulholland Highway! That's close to where I live - Great scenery and friendly biker culture. Looks like you adapted to the Cali lifestyle very quickly :) Btw- Your videos have inspired me to book a GS 1200 demo ride with BMW Burbank next week. I can't wait to get rid of my Yamaha Road Star. I currently wear a Shoei Qwest Helmet, NoNoise earplugs and anything over 65mph on the freeway is like a pneumatic drill going off inside my head from the engine noise and stock pipes. I want to do long 10 hour trips in the saddle to the national parks and I can't take more than 30 mins on the Road Star with the crazy ringing in my ears. I think the GS will have the power and comfort without the deafening roar. Thanks again for all the great posts. I have been watching a few every evening.
Hey moondog33 good stuff - well I only really have any experience of the liquid cooled models so (despite what you said) I have to recommend a post 2013 model!! Sorry I'm not much help.....all the best - TMF
I'm doing a tour of Japan next year with Edelweiss and one of the bikes there offering is the 1200GS (never ridden one) . Now since I'm a short arse and my 1200RS has a lowered seat so i dont do the tippy toe thing, can you do the same with the GS? And in your opinion is this the bike i should be looking at for the 16 day tour?
Wow, sounds a great tour Michael - you can indeed have a low seat on a GS (I have) and as you would expect I would say, it is the ideal bike for such a tour. If it helps I'm 5'8" by the way.......have a fab trip!
What about handling? ( the kg’s?) nr one in cornering in for instance the Eifel ( germany) But i hate it that there is no room for your helmet(‘s) the paniers are to small for my neotec. I changed it so now i use my Buell toppanier on my bmw or my Buell xb12x
When I bought the GS the GSA was still the old model (ie not liquid cooled) + I didn't need the extra fuel tank range or weight and I didn't much like all the scaffolding required to carry panniers - the "standard" GS fits the bill just fine for me....
+TheMissendenFlyer Still loving mine, thanks for step by step fitting tips. Agree with all your comments about Gs, the complete all rounder :) Top videos 👍
I agree they are expensive beasts but out of all my bikes it's the one I use most - it's the work horse of my "fleet" and if I could only have one bike, this would be the one......you might have different uses in mind of course. Thanks for watching and for stopping by once again....it's been ages since I heard from you! All the best - TMF
Hi, I was wondering, if you have a good relationship with your bow dealer, if you could take a gsa out for a spin and do a comparison? I know there are many reviews of it but I would like your perspective. Cheers
I would love to have a ride on a GSA - I don't really have the type of relationship with my dealer (bar visits once a year for servicing) to just get them to lend me a bike to review, that said, I have wondered about asking them and letting them know that I'm on You Tube and have had several people asking....so you never know...stay tunes regardless just in case!
Yep seen that one, although not sure why as I have the three Vario panniers on mine! Would have made more sense for me to wander out to the garage and look at mine ;-)
Yes good point - I admit I don't miss cleaning the chain on this one! ...although I do think the shaft drive is partly responsible for a slightly agricultural gear change....
Hi Simon, I have to disagree in that I ALWAYS check my blind spot (or I probably wouldn't be here now!!). I only need to glance my eyes to the mirrors or check over my shoulder and am always aware of what's around me before any overtake, lane change or turn.....so I suspect it's because you don't see any movement of my head or due editing that you've concluded that I don't.....
At 6:10 you discuss how the Ducati Multistrada is 'Top Heavy'... I have to disagree my friend. I've ridden a 2015 1200GS, and own a 2015 Multistrada, and both bikes are very well balanced. I'm amazed at how 'flickable' the Multistrada is... Very nimble!!! Any bike will tip over if you can't reach the ground.
Just my opinion, I felt much more unstable on the MTS at stand-still than the GS, and yes I am only 5'8" so this may only apply to shorties like me.... Thanks for stopping by once again, all the best - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Agreed that the GS is a tad 'lighter' at a stand-still with it's lower CofG. However, keep the MTS verticle and there is no issue. No disrespect intended my friend... I respect everyones opinion... ✔
I have the lowered seat fitted and I can get almost flat footed both sides if it's just me on the machine - fully flat footed if I have luggage or a pillion...height isn't an issue on this bike for me (it is on some)...and the balance is so good slow moving traffic or filtering just isn't a problem...
I fell in love with the GS the moment I laid my eyes on one but could never afford it. Thanks to your videos I at least, get to experience what it's like to ride in one. More two-wheeled power to you TMF! Cheers!
Thank you SuperLubot - that's a very nice thing to say, appreciate it....all the best - TMF
Ive got the Adventure and I totally agree with you. It just does everything so well !!
Glad we concur!
It was due to this video that I just bought a 1200 GS. Love it just as the MissendenFlyer. Thanks for that. Well done videos! Ride safely, all!
Nice one Peter - if only I were on commission!
Couldn't agree more, I used to hate the look of the sticky out cylinders but then when I wanted a change from the tiger 1050, one of my mates said at least have a demo. Instantly loved it from the word go, it does everything I want a bike for, short or long rides I don't see me wanting to own anything else at present. Cheers for the vid, Karl.
Hi Karl - you obviously have brilliant taste (you may know I went from a Tiger 1050 to the GS as well). I loved the planted nature of the ol' Tiger and the engine was a peach, but the handling on the GS is in another league....as is pretty much everything else. Thanks for stopping by.....TMF
great video about the GS again ,mine is a bit older than yours but I love mine too, keep up the good work great informative channel
Thank for the kind words Carl - all the best - TMF
Another great video. Thanks for posting. I have a 2014 GS exactly like yours (except I have the spoke wheels) and absolutely love it. Your top 10 pretty much matches mine. I'd add the speed shifter (make the list into top eleven things?) which, IIRC you also retrofitted as I have. For anyone considering buying a GS, I think your videos are an excellent reference. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks again Sean - I find the Gear Shift Assist Pro a little clunky on the GS, although I love the downshifting the upshifting is nowhere near as good as on my Ducati or Triumph and have caused me one or two hairy moments with the gear failing to engage and the bike lurching at high speed....maybe I need to get mine looked at by the boffins at BMW...
Mr. Flyer, so glad you said the Gs is comfortable, after safety that’s my most important feature. I’m a short guy and the weight being low is a real benefit for me just sat on a 2019 1250 Gs in the store and although I was on the balls of my feet it felt very manageable. I may just buy it.
You won’t regret it - popular bike for good reason!
Totally agree with your top 4 TMF; not only is the electrickery good, it's easy to use and you don't have to dive into a multitude of sub-menus. Great pair of videos, well done👍 Cheers, Andy
+Andrew Tofts Thanks Andy, yes agreed, although the switchgear is a bit flimsy the usability of the electronics is great, completely agree (especially when compared with say the KTM equivalents)....thanks for watching and stopping by once again - TMF
Thanks, TMF. I've just put a deposit down on one after owning a Multistrada. Watching your video reassured me that I've made the right decision.
+Mapother78 ....it all depends what you want the bike for, the MTS is a much quicker bike than the GS but on all other counts IMO the GS is the better bike (with the exception of looks!)....hope you agree! All the best - TMF
Thanks for doing this. I have the same model as you and the "Hate" video gave a wrong impression. It's a great bike and apart from the clunky g/b it is superb. Chris
No worries - I had posted loads of "love" videos before that one, I was surprised just how much people didn't like the "hate" one which was intended as being tongue-in-cheek as far as the title was concerned....oh well, one down to experience!
Thanks for the videos, looking to change my bike and they have been a great help. 👍
What are you after Peter?
I had three bikes in mind, the R1200GS, Triumph Explorer or the Multistrada after 9 years on an FJR. Main use is going to be to tour Europe 2 up each year plus weekends away. I did also think about the RT but wanted something a little different this time.
test riding a 2016 R1200 GS saturday! Can't wait to see what it is all about
Have your cheque book handy Jake! Enjoy ;0)
my wife overheard your review and commented that 'he' isn't saying anything I don't already know...! there you go, a pillions point of view. My view, it's a truly awesome bike, so well balanced and has presence on the road, which I need on my daily commute. nice one TMF, thanks for a positive review.
All (bar one) of my reviews are positive!! Did you see this one from a while back for example? :0) >> th-cam.com/video/SZW6zh6NFPU/w-d-xo.html
Bought a GS today because of this video.
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You'll not regret it Tim! Love mine as you know.....
Fantastic review! I don't own a bike but I want one and my mountain biking pals all have the 1200GS and rave about them. I need a Cafe Racer too though as and when. I've subscribed and look forward to watching many more. ATB Pete
Thanks Pete and great to have you along!
Great video.
1, I love the road presence on the GS, I feel like Moses parting of the seas sometimes lol :-)
2, plus and minus, the amazing amount of stuff you can get for them :-0 there's always something else to add ;-)
Yes good points both Richard, I completely get the Moses analogy - cheers for watching and for stopping by once again...all the best - TMF
Nice video. Informative and to the point. What about the gearshift assist pro?.you do have the g. Assist pro on your bike?
Love your videos!
Thank you!
Yeh man awesome machine. Wing mirrors look as they do the job real good too.
Tcrs ✊
Yes they do, no complaints there, should have added the mirrors to my top ten list! Cheers for watching - TMF
i was so looking forward to seeing part ll 😃
thank you for sharing your inpressions on the GS.
there are so many awesome things about the GS. you are right. it is hard to get them sorted in a top ten list...
your video just started my weekend and i m just about to go on a ride with a friend of mine.
so enjoy your weekend!
by the way i did not dislike your 10 negativ things video about the gs 😉
cheers Tom
Thanks Tom, enjoy your ride....I'm guessing the weather where you are is better than the weather here....light drizzle now and deteriorating into the weekend :0(
+TheMissendenFlyer you are right again. 26 degrees dry sunny and only a few clouds.... just perfect.
cheers
Really enjoy all of your videos and presentations. I would be interested in a video of how you make them. Cheers.
Thanks Steven - Nothing complicated but maybe one day I will do just that - thanks for the idea.....
Recently my 800 GS Adventure was in the shop for service and I took the shops 1200 GSA for the day. Everything you read and hear about the 1200 is true. It is a spectacular machine. So different from the 800, both good and bad. Glad you did a follow up to the top 10 dislike video awhile back. Was starting to think you didn't like the big old girl!!! Hated to give the 1200 back when mine was ready, now looking for an excuse to get one!!
Yeah they are superb machines...surely that's excuse enough :0)
I've got an '09 RT-P and I love the balance too, even at walking pace its easier to ride than my CBR 125, and its so flickable as well, was a massive surprise when I brought it, especially on the twisties
Yes the RT (I think) handles even better than the GS - the same lovely low down weight but somehow the engine seems smoother - if/when the GS goes it'll either be for another GS or an RT.....
Well the engine on my bike has been through 66k and since changing the oil last week (only had the bike for 3k miles) its so smooth I could almost fall asleep on it. Just make sure you keep the sidestand switch clean, mine stranded on the M6 by Stafford this afternoon, easy clean out once recovered though
I was wondering, if you had a good relationship with your bmw dealer, if so would you be able to take a gsa out for a comparative review, I know there are loads of reviews of it out there but I would like your perspective. Cheers
...thumbs up and chocks away!
I tried the R9T, GS and GSA all on the same day. I actually found the GSA the easiest to ride. Ok, so it's seriously big, but any thing over 2 mph the weight disappears - so the low centre of gravity would be my number 1 too. The other thing I found was turning on the main headlight and fog lights - no one can say didn't see you. On the test ride traffic got out of the way when filtering, plus being high up makes it surprisingly good for filtering - as the gaps seem to open up - they need to, as it is wide.
Anyway the guy at the dealership knew he had a sale as soon as I walked back in :)
They had two white full specced GSAs sitting there.
As for the "hates" - like you - cleaning it, lots of little bits that are hard to reach.
Yes agreed, these bikes have great presence on the road, especially with the auxiliary lights and panniers, like you say, not really an excuse to say "I didn't see you" although let's not rely on that as a safety tactic....!
I am being resold on the GS, great ob, gently used one for me due to budget but damn...gotta really think of this as my bike!
They are great machines - I love mine more every time I ride it!
I would love to hear your take on the RS. I like both and am considering buying one some day when the kids hit college.
...well stay tuned - you never know, I may get to ride one at some point (would love too!)! Thanks for stopping by - TMF
Great video
Thank you :0)
Very interesting presentation !
Is that a good or bad thing Graham??? ;0)
A very good thing , as we all benefit from your experience...
I totally agree with your top ten. Especially number 1! I tell my friends its like riding a hot knife thru butter.
Great stuff Ron - I'm glad we concur! Thanks for stopping by - all the best - TMF
I think that the No.1 thing about the GS is that it can the be the one and only bike for almost everything you might want to do. Want to go across Europe? You got it. Want to have a bit of offroad fun? It can cope with it pretty easily. Want to hit some b-roads and push it a little more? It will give a smile and you won't shit your pants. And if you take the panniers off and lower your expectations a bit, it can work in an urban environment as well
Yes good point - should have made my top ten, agreed....
To be clear, that wasn't criticism on your video and on your list. Just making another point for the GS. Very interesting couple of videos, keep it up! The opinions of owners matter ten times what the magazines and the experts say.
No problem at all - no criticism damage inflicted :0)
Ease of servicing would be high up on my list. I can service the GS my self in a few hours.
You're a lucky man - can you come and do mine and save me a few quid?? ;0) Thanks for watching.....TMF
A good couple of videos to watch, just sold the F700gs for a R1200GS love it
Good decision Vince :0)
Thanks for that, first trip was to Brackley bike festival, with the daughter on the back, she complained about the BMW top box had no back rest, so on this one the top box had one fitted (as you later fitted to yours) she complained it was too hard, looks like I am on a no winner with her!
Hmm, I know how daughters are...how old are we talking???
24 about time she learnt to ride
Great review(s) as ever. I echo the shaft-drive question. Don't you miss cleaning and adjusting the chain ;)
Cheers Nick and yes good point - I admit I don't miss cleaning the chain on this one! ...although I do think the shaft drive is partly responsible for a slightly agricultural gear change....
+TheMissendenFlyer just taken delivery of the latest euro 4 model and the gearbox has been upgraded / improved no more clunking in the lower gears 👌
Result!
+TheMissendenFlyer That you for all your time and effort in making such great a really informative videos 👍 they really helped in my decision to buy the GS.
Just go back from a 70mile ride in big Cumbrian rain! Rain mode worked a treat even on the cattle grids 😬😬
and with brand new tyres!
Can't wait to do some serious touring and maybe a bit off road!!
Thanks again
Stan 👊
Glad the mighty GS is working out for you Stan, definitely a bit of a Swiss army knife and a darn fine one at that! All the best - TMF
Totally agree. I have 4 bikes but this would be my choice if I only had 1....off to USA in 2 weeks with Richy Vida etc
Looking forward to watching your adventures! Say hi to Richy from me....have a great time - TMF
Fantastic mate, please can you do a review of the adventure model sometime.......you'll love it. Kind regards.
Love too - when I can I borrow it ;0)
I would more than happily ride it up to you anytime TMF.........I'm serious, would be lovely to see an honest review and comparison.
What do you think.....just 4000 on her.
I'm just learning to ride. This is the bike for me and watching this video has only confirmed that. Rollon passing my test etc.
Good luck with your test Alan, they don't make it easy! You'll love the GS, although you might want to try something smaller/lighter for a few months whilst you learn your craft??
Thank you.
You're welcome!
excellent .
Thank you...
Absolutely live your videos mate, especially the ones regarding the Mighty GS. This is my dream bike and i absolutely fell in love more with it through your channel and the videos you made about it. Im soon to be 36, never rode motorcycles in my life (always was fascinated by them, tho) and decided to get my drivers licence. Now, that i finally got it, my quest for my first bike begins.
No, it wont be the GS but at some point of time it will be :)
Thanks, looking forward to your future videos.
Question: Would you ever recommend the GS as a beginners bike?
Hi Sinisa - so glad you find my videos of interest, thanks for the kind words...much appreciated. Due to it's size and weight I wouldn't recommend the GS as a first bike....would be a great second one though! Congrats on passing your test, if I was in your position I'd buy a second hand 600-800cc bike to start with, live with it for a year and gain confidence, then move on to the mighty GS!
Wow, tnx for the reply :) And thank you for the congrats :)
Yup, i was thinking the same thing - i have my eyes on a used Kawasaki zr7 or ER5 maybe as my first bike. Drive it for a season or two then jump onto something serious. Of course, there are always financial questions, but the GS is my goal :)
Keep it up with the videos and have a nice day!
Cheers!
Cheers - will do! All the best - TMF
That makes sense n honestly if I weren't married I would have bought the big beemer . I did look at them but they were a bit more then I wanted to spend at the time . Anyway I enjoy ur videos so keep them coming and safe travels ...
Thanks Davyboy - I'm curious as to what being married has to do with it?? Don't tell me your afraid of your wife???
+TheMissendenFlyer Women are expensive.;-)
+TheMissendenFlyer Women are expensive.;-)
You don't always have to rent them by the hour ;0)
You're right there!!! ....ahem, not that I would know of course....
I agree as a GS-rider! But the panniers? Are the BMW's the way to go?
+Marcel Hoogeveen Definately, they are expensive but great bits of kit....check out my review of them....
you mentioned the multistrada as a comparison in this video and i am really thinking of buying one within the next weeks, may i ask you for your honest feedback about it ?!
+Raid Alshinibr Great bike, very quick but a little too tall/top heavy for my liking - check out my review in my reviews playlist (sorry don't have the link to hand..answering this via my phone!)
Good video I like the BMW's but just curious have you considered the triumph explorer ? I own a tiger 800 and find it to be a very nice bike but never rode a beemer so I can't really compare
Well I bought the GS before the big Trumpet was on the scene - it does seem to be a nice bike but more recent comparisons I have read in the press seem to still put the GS ahead of the big Tiger - I think the little 800 is in a class of it's own, a cracking bike by all accounts with that wonderful Triple engine....I'd take one of those over the new Yamaha Tracer any day :0)
Why not get yourself down to a BMW dealer and try one mate? the GS sits between the 2 weight wise and has a different character from the triple. The latest Explorer is an improvement on the previous one but cost wise is now closer to the GS. Both are great bikes but which one is better for you only you can decide.
Great video - what is the road you are riding on?
Thanks Waltham - various roads around the Princes Risborough/Chinnor area in South Bucks/Oxon....
Seeing as you're a Triumph man, I'd suggest you give the latest Explorer 1200 a test ride. I've got the 2015 model and can't really fault it. By all accounts the 2016 version is leaps ahead of it with all the "electrickery" you could ever want. Whether it's better than the GS, as someone else has said here is, something each individual has to decide for him/herself.
To be honest (and as you say I am a Triumph fan so please don't take this the wrong way) - I see the Triumph Explorer as a copy of the GS, as I said in the video, for me I'd rather have the real thing! ...not intending to criticise your choice of bike, just a personal thing... thanks for stopping by - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Fair enough. We can't all like the same bikes. Regarding the explorer being a copy, one could argue that all bikes (save perhaps those that are the first of their category) are all copies. I tend to like bikes that are the best at what they do and also fit my budget. I preferred the styling of the Explorer and it fit my budget while doing most of what the GS could... Different strokes for different folks as they say.
Exactly!
The video started at no4 ? Thanks Shane
Is part 2
A great pair of videos. I hope I find the GS as comfortable as many say it is. I'd love to hire one to do the West coast of the States. Do you have any longer trips planned at all at the moment? I guess it'd be hush-hush even if you did. I'd love to see you do a decent Euro trip - down to the Med, or similar. I did enjoy your French tour. Keep up the good work! Cheers.
Thanks Rob - been a busy year flying so not too much chance for bike tours although I do have 4 days put aside next month to go somewhere...not sure where yet Wales/Scotland/Ireland or Europe beckon...depends on what the weather is doing. Stay tuned! Thanks for stopping by once again, all the best - TMF.
Ah fair dues. Good to hear you've managed to get some flying in. What were you flying out of curiosity, I think your last aircraft's number was up last I heard. I'm keen to get some time on a composite based plane, like a DA40 etc... I hear great things about them. 140kt cruise etc. Beats the Warrior's 90-93kt that's for sure.
Well you are right and our TB-10 has been scrapped (at least we believed it had but notice in this month's pilot magazine the outfit we sold it too as scrap claim they are going to get it flying again!).....so it's been PA28's for me this year, luckily I have a couple of mates that let me fly theirs, one a Warrior and one a Dakota so I'm keeping current. I flew a DA40 in Canada a couple of years back, great fun...
Ah that's interesting. They're hoping to revive it, eh. Was a pretty good-looking airplane IIRC. Nice, Canada - plenty of good flying to be done over there. Hope to visit Banff and BC one day. Great stuff TMF, thanks for answering my questions, have a great weekend!
Yeah it was out of BC (Edmonton) that I flew the DA40 as it happens....also visited Banff/Jasper (all the touristy bits of the Rockies) - would be brilliant to do by bike as well as light aeroplane....
Greetings from LA!
thank you so much for these really informative and witty videos.
I have been riding for two years now. Went from a Yamaha v star 650 to a Yamaha road star 1700 and I'm not a fan. On the freeway the RoadStar is just too loud even with ear plugs and full face helmet. After an hour ride my back kills me even with backrest!
So I'm going sell both bikes and get a used GS1200. I think the engine noise will be much less and less wind too hopefully. Any specific years you can recommend or anyone else??
I'm probably looking between 2005-2010 for my budget. Then maybe after a few years save up for a newer model.
+moondog33 Hi Moondog33....I loved my time riding in LA last year, very envious of you! I think, just go for the newest model you can afford and you won't go far wrong...if you can stretch to a post 2013 liquid cooled model then do so as the bike was transformed with the new engine. Good luck with your search..all the best - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the reply and yes LA weather is great for bike riding.
LA drivers though not so much as most are on their phones completely distracted.
Will have to check out your LA vids now!
Thanks for advice on looking for used GS.
2013 model would be nice - maybe I can find a good deal somewhere across the country and ride back to LA. :)
Good stuff - in case you couldn't find it the LA trip starts here >> th-cam.com/video/uAp5tluNKY8/w-d-xo.html then th-cam.com/video/5pn43N94F00/w-d-xo.html and if you're still awake >> th-cam.com/video/ZkzdQQ569yk/w-d-xo.html :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer Cheers for the links,
I already watched the one of you carving 'The Snake' on Mulholland Highway!
That's close to where I live - Great scenery and friendly biker culture. Looks like you adapted to the Cali lifestyle very quickly :)
Btw- Your videos have inspired me to book a GS 1200 demo ride with BMW Burbank next week.
I can't wait to get rid of my Yamaha Road Star.
I currently wear a Shoei Qwest Helmet, NoNoise earplugs and anything over 65mph on the freeway is like a pneumatic drill going off inside my head from the engine noise and stock pipes.
I want to do long 10 hour trips in the saddle to the national parks and I can't take more than 30 mins on the Road Star with the crazy ringing in my ears.
I think the GS will have the power and comfort without the deafening roar.
Thanks again for all the great posts.
I have been watching a few every evening.
Hey moondog33 good stuff - well I only really have any experience of the liquid cooled models so (despite what you said) I have to recommend a post 2013 model!! Sorry I'm not much help.....all the best - TMF
I'm doing a tour of Japan next year with Edelweiss and one of the bikes there offering is the 1200GS (never ridden one) . Now since I'm a short arse and my 1200RS has a lowered seat so i dont do the tippy toe thing, can you do the same with the GS? And in your opinion is this the bike i should be looking at for the 16 day tour?
Wow, sounds a great tour Michael - you can indeed have a low seat on a GS (I have) and as you would expect I would say, it is the ideal bike for such a tour. If it helps I'm 5'8" by the way.......have a fab trip!
Thanks for the info
I have a question for you sir. I have a 2016 1200gs could you please tell me what type of front wheel stand I need for it?
Thank you.
Not sure I understand, you mean paddock stand??
You have to lift the front end when you change a tire right?
Yes but surely you can do that enough on just the centre stand can't you??? (I usually take mine to a dealer to replace tyres)....
What about handling? ( the kg’s?) nr one in cornering in for instance the Eifel ( germany)
But i hate it that there is no room for your helmet(‘s) the paniers are to small for my neotec.
I changed it so now i use my Buell toppanier on my bmw or my Buell xb12x
Because it carries the weight low - much better than any other big ADV bike....
What kind of windscreen is that? I know you mentioned it but I couldn't quite make out what you said.
It's an MRA Vario Screen - I've used them on several bikes - check out my first review of one here >> th-cam.com/video/AhzZWzVLNIw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. Might be time to upgrade from the stock shield on my 2012 GS.
just curious, why did choose this bike over R1200 GSA?
When I bought the GS the GSA was still the old model (ie not liquid cooled) + I didn't need the extra fuel tank range or weight and I didn't much like all the scaffolding required to carry panniers - the "standard" GS fits the bill just fine for me....
I can agree with the list, the balance is superb. Maybe you fogot the cornering, wich I think is exaptional for this type of bike.
Yeah I should have made more of the handling, it is superb - as I said...too many good things to list!
Well I'm sure some people can, but I can't embarrass sports bike riders even when I'm on my sports bike!
Yes definitely - I think your riding improves after each track day or training/experience like that you do...and will do...cheers - TMF
You know, the one handed front end lift. Like Pit Bull brand and the like.
Aha, I see, I use an Abba stand for that on my other bikes, but given the GS has a centre stand I don't really see the need for one??
What's your suspention and seat setup on this bike TMF? Standard height suspension and seat or modyfied? Just asking coz I am the same height as you.
+Vstm Yes I have standard height suspension with the low seat and I can pretty much flat foot her.....
Cheers TMF. One more thing does the low seat option compromise any of the comfort on long distance touring?
Hi,
Have you taken the Arrow can off and why ?
Andy
Yes I have, I found it too noisy on longer trips.TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer
Still loving mine, thanks for step by step fitting tips.
Agree with all your comments about Gs, the complete all rounder :)
Top videos 👍
Only thing that puts me off is the price vs how much use I would get out of it
I agree they are expensive beasts but out of all my bikes it's the one I use most - it's the work horse of my "fleet" and if I could only have one bike, this would be the one......you might have different uses in mind of course. Thanks for watching and for stopping by once again....it's been ages since I heard from you! All the best - TMF
Hi, I was wondering, if you have a good relationship with your bow dealer, if you could take a gsa out for a spin and do a comparison? I know there are many reviews of it but I would like your perspective. Cheers
I would love to have a ride on a GSA - I don't really have the type of relationship with my dealer (bar visits once a year for servicing) to just get them to lend me a bike to review, that said, I have wondered about asking them and letting them know that I'm on You Tube and have had several people asking....so you never know...stay tunes regardless just in case!
Interesting - I had head the GSA was smoother/more planted on the road due the extra weight....extra seat height I can do without!
I really like the BMW Panniers :-o Especially seeing how poor the Honda ones are!!
Yes they are good, did you see my review of them sometime back? >> th-cam.com/video/J4CqYQsVqAs/w-d-xo.html
Yep seen that one, although not sure why as I have the three Vario panniers on mine! Would have made more sense for me to wander out to the garage and look at mine ;-)
Two parts my mistake Shane
No worries.....
I think you missed the driveshaft as a number, or what do you think.
Yes good point - I admit I don't miss cleaning the chain on this one! ...although I do think the shaft drive is partly responsible for a slightly agricultural gear change....
Agreed...forgot that one...
Well at least I gave you a thumbs-up... lol
Good man!
I've noticed that you never check your blind spot when overtaking or look behind you, why is this ?
Hi Simon, I have to disagree in that I ALWAYS check my blind spot (or I probably wouldn't be here now!!). I only need to glance my eyes to the mirrors or check over my shoulder and am always aware of what's around me before any overtake, lane change or turn.....so I suspect it's because you don't see any movement of my head or due editing that you've concluded that I don't.....
Notification first
Well done ;0)
At 6:10 you discuss how the Ducati Multistrada is 'Top Heavy'... I have to disagree my friend. I've ridden a 2015 1200GS, and own a 2015 Multistrada, and both bikes are very well balanced. I'm amazed at how 'flickable' the Multistrada is... Very nimble!!! Any bike will tip over if you can't reach the ground.
Just my opinion, I felt much more unstable on the MTS at stand-still than the GS, and yes I am only 5'8" so this may only apply to shorties like me.... Thanks for stopping by once again, all the best - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer Agreed that the GS is a tad 'lighter' at a stand-still with it's lower CofG. However, keep the MTS verticle and there is no issue. No disrespect intended my friend... I respect everyones opinion... ✔
+TheMissendenFlyer Also... the suspension and seat can be lowered on the Multistrada for the vertically challenged...
+TheMissendenFlyer Whoopps... Edit: Vertical... silly me 😳
you're 5'8" right...???
isn't the bike height an issue in slow moving traffic...??
can you get both your feet planted easily..??
I have the lowered seat fitted and I can get almost flat footed both sides if it's just me on the machine - fully flat footed if I have luggage or a pillion...height isn't an issue on this bike for me (it is on some)...and the balance is so good slow moving traffic or filtering just isn't a problem...
+TheMissendenFlyer thanks a lot....I'm in the search for an adventure tourer....
+AussieRider thank you mate.....I'm 5'11"...... now I'll just probably go & book my GS..
No, you have to lift the front. Just want to take the wheels off myself and then take them to the dealer for the tire change to save some money.
i just wonder if you are on Facebook?
Not as The Missenden Flyer no....
+TheMissendenFlyer okay ... that s why i couldn t find TMF on Facebook 😂
No............ THE No.1 reason is, after all is said and done.............. It's MINE!