No the hell he’s not. He simply said he staying out of it he’s not there. Same way we all should feel until he’s found guilty! Oh.. except she never pressed criminal charges…
Any girl can say anything with the way yall think.. you don't even see women as being capable humans, it's like some people look at young woman as being autistic, I was offered drugs at 21 and said no
Salute to us non patronees, I almost was tempted to cop it but after those snippets dropped of Joe being on the ledge, I confirmed to myself that I’ll never buy that shit..PS it ain’t broke, I just don’t have an extra 4-10 hours to listen to extra content with safe takes & plea cops!
@@harlemkid144Thank you, people can't even listen carefully and sees that they not whit those allegations but most people on here or life would stand against police beating a blk men wrongfully, so I should call them coward?
Joe has definitely come on that podcast and criticized ppl for allegations he got from blogs before 100%….he’s protecting that relationship and he danced around it
@fearismanmade so I have to watch the whole thing to comment?????lol I could’ve had enough when it was getting dry…apparently a bunch of others felt the same as me so that makes you weird for standing on the other side. Bitch
Joe is selective. With both his accountability and his outrage. Especially when it’s someone he knows or respects. We know this. His comments and stances are completely expected.
Joe there's nothing wrong with freak offs if both parties are consensual about it. Drugging, Beating, Harassing, Coercing, Blackmailing someone to do a freak off and spreading the footage is the illigal part of the whole thing. Let's not act stupid.
The whole reason the entretaiment industry is a shit hold and people are abused on the daily is because nobody stand up against this people, they are always protected. Is about time people stop working to protect Diddy.
What they are saying is everyone gets asked the same questions on the casting couch. Some stay and some leave. Now if someone set you on fire, made you kiss a crocodile, every time they saw you stuck their finger in your ass then put in your mouth would you stay? No me either. I am not victim shaming, I am honestly at what point are you a willing participant? It just seems odd to me.
Ice is the only one that stood on business. Shout to him. Joe is a weirdo and obviously terrified of losing that Diddy relationship. He himself is an abuser so of course he would make excuses for another abuser.
See Mal handled the Diddy thing correctly. Called Diddy out for his nasty behavior and called the whole “culture” out for when it comes to people in the culture they have to defend them but, if it was a actor or politician the whole pod would dissect the issue and do a deep dive. However since it’s Diddy they scared and trying to protect their overall industry relationships.
No one watches Mal dude. The JBP is the number one podcast, that diddy actually watches. The consequences are different. It goes beyond industry relationships.
So you are saying Joe a BIG OL USSY then. TY for validating my point and imagine caring what people watch or dont watch on their free time. Go back to being an imbecile ON THANKSGIVING. @@IsaAC-ct5rx
Ya gotta pick a side either Diddy run shit, snd can get people touched or he cant and some people want to see whats going on cause thats their peoples. Just like years ago when Joe was in tis very same position
Joe didn’t want to speak on it because he does the same things Diddy was accused of. He doesn’t think Cassie is a victim. The invalidating started as soon as he said “I like freak-offs.” Sad
this comment is so true that I’m gonna post it again…because WE CAN dictate the way the pod goes. also shame on Ish for asking why the JBP has to be the “sacrificial lamb”?!? like they weren’t named #1 hip-hop podcast of the year
I'm hearing a bunch of people say they cancelled Patreon and people are taking a break from the pod. I think I'm just off of it Hearing Joe joke on Cassie and then talk about love for FOs. Ice wasn't with none of that. Ice wasn't rolling wit it. This episode was hard to hear as a man.
The last month of pods been trash, & the way Joe responds to the Cassie situation just added the garbage cherry on top, Joes just become a talking head at this point, basically admitted this episode we should no longer look to him for substance outside of the let’s get the views up hot takes he provides every now & then & even a lot of those seems premeditated to me
If the next person allegedly blows up people cars in their driveways I am sure he will and people acting like they would not do the same to wave the Truth Teller banner for the internet is super duper CAP 🧢!!!!
@@brothernumpceecap!! Joe always talks big about he keeps the same energy and had beef with real street dudes he ain’t back down, he ain’t scared blah blah he not like the other pu**y podders, etc…
For them to compare a freaky night of exploration to what Diddy is alleged of doing is nuts. Cassie claims she didnt want to take part in these things nor did she enjoy them. One report said she was crying before hand and throwing up at the thought. Yall really tried it smh
@jussamaru4153 I'm not rolling bro. They are described as very toxic. Even if she did like 50/50 the other 50% she didn't like is wayy too much anyone should have to endure
Im no Diddy fan right, but how do we know she didn't enjoy and then started feeling some type of way after not saying she doesn't have that right but is that really fair if u have fun then later say I hated do u get to sue? Now she may be telling the truth and Diddy may be a nasty man but do we really know or are we just chosing sides based off past alleged behavior and hip hop heads know what I'm talking bout but whatever I'm gonna say I don't know who's lying or telling the truth so I don't know shit and I don't think most people know anything about the TRUTH either
Shout out to Mal for being solid as always and having the balls to be a real man. Joe got y’all out here looking like industry puppets. He knew his checkered past better not speak up.
Yall thought puff was guilty no matter how fast slow or if he ever settled. Yall really need to stop acting like things that aren't evidence are evidence.
With Joes stance moving forward they shouldn't talk about anybody elses scandal. Went off on Jada Pinkett Smith, etc. This is an example of how our culture limits growth. Yall have dogged people out now its Diddy you have all this professionalism.
Normally I go against ICE, I always ride with Ish. But today, ICE is the truth, Joe constantly does hypocritical stuff. I'm super surprised that Flip didn't go absolutely nuts. My guy Ish, is not holding his normal stance and it's nasty
@@KingKalidoryou & these dumbasses on this Pod think its about view. It’s about exposing someone who has sexually assaulted women & men too , got ppl killed, lord knows what else. He so big in the industry everyone too scared to speak up. They been saying tht about Puff since the 90s lol,
What was described as a freak off in the law suit was without her consent, under coercion and broke the law. Men don’t have to try hard to understand that. Stop it
Joe's whole rant could've just been cut down to "diddy is richer than me and i don't want to risk that business relationship and also i'm scared that he'll press me if i say anything" Dude tries so hard to sound smart and calculated about not standing on the morals he claims he has. That's it. You either keep it 100 or don't. Either way, own it like a man
53:35 the way how Flip pushes the mic away from him😂 Joe is so full of it. I would've respected it so much more if they didn't speak about it at all. Joe just spews so much ignorance. I gotta take a break from pod.
He couldn't wait to talk shit about DJ envy, he even pressed his co-hosts to dog pile. So I can agree with people saying he has selective outrage. He frequently gives Flip hell for not wanting to speak negatively about his friends... Yet Joe takes the same stance.
I wish they would have done their research on the Cassie topic. It was too late for her to file criminal charges due to the statute of limitations. But Joe over here insinuating that she’s disingenuous. From the sounds of it he’s already picked Diddy’s side. Either he doesn’t believe her or he’s being performative because he know Diddy watching
But she is disingenuous. If someone does the things diddy is ALLEGEDLY accused of to you in let’s say dec 12 of 2008, and you didn’t file a report, press charges and have that person tried in court on Dec 12 of 2008, and years person who wronged you that you willingly didn’t press charges on years ago becomes a billionaire and all of a sudden you wanna file a lawsuit for money (because that’s what she file for, a settlement not to put diddy in jail) that is 1000% disingenuous and a form of self disrespect cause why wait when you could went to the police the min it happened to you? Because she wanted to keep the good times rolling until she had enough. That’s the truth, you lil internet warriors refuse to accept that all Cassie is, is a gold digger and a diva (the female version of hustler).
Every since Joe went to that Diddy party, where he said he disappeared for 2hrs supposedly got lost in the mansion.....he's been dressing different and wearing a cape for anything Diddy.....go back and listen to his Diddy party experience 😂
I’ve been waiting for someone to say this. Cause the way he is caping for Diddy and belittling FO as if it’s nothing, I am appalled. I’m like how he gonna call out Drake a few weeks ago with passion about him dating young girls and here we have Diddy’s abuse stories of how he treated young girls for decades and this is what Joe does? I’m like the only conclusion I can come too, is perhaps he was engaging in said FO perhaps with Diddy, during the times he was up at his mansion. Cause I can’t imagine him protecting him this much for anything else. Diddy either had him bent over or he was engaging in abusive shit with Diddy.
@@Derrickneal1352 Nobody will ever drag Charlamagne or Nore for it. They only want to hear it from Joe and not the people that are actually currently signed under Puff
As he should. Why should he jeopardize anything because strangers on the internet who are mostly losers want him too ? Especially when there is no hardcore evidence and she opted for money over justice.
When it’s a partner, husband or boyfriend that commits those acts against you it is extremely hard to get a DA to even file the charges AND it puts the victim under attack again…this keeps happening because we can’t get men to hold each other accountable. If men just gave their homeboys shade when they knew this was happening it would help a lot.
Better idea would be for Cassie to become an activist but she took the money and will continue to shut the fuck up until the money is spent. The fucked up thing is we only heard these things since the beginning of the Diddy era and it gives Robert Kelly vibes
@@ifesinachiorijekwe10 because he's always hung his hat on integrity, morals, etc. Why stop that on THIS situation in particular? He tears up MAD other people on this podcast based on accusations
Yes because Rory and mal didn’t get a job from diddy at any point … they don’t owe diddy nothing ….im sure if jayz was to be in the same position mal would be quiet aswell🤷🏽♂️
19:21 Why? Because JOE has said he's the voice of the Culture! You can't be the voice, when your associates AREN'T involved. Then when they are, you clam-up. We all know Joe had his OWN abuse allegations a couple of years ago. He has to be quiet. I just wish he would say that versus this nonsense he's spewing.
My biggest issue with this is if Joe doesnt want to talk thats fine, but just say that instead of lieing that the pod only talk about music, which is totally false
Nobody knows how long Cassie has been fighting this. We only know when it got to this explosive part. I remember a while back when the husband was talking recklessly to and about Puffy.
Joe know that the only reason people was hounding him for his opinion is because he has the strongest opinions on everybody else but now he wanna handle diddy with care
Man this guy really thinks people are dumb 🤦🏽♂️ he has had no problem speaking on anybody else who’s been accused of all types of lewd, heinous and criminal activity, but now all of a sudden he’s afraid of things being chopped up and misinterpreted🤦🏽♂️ now speaking on it so fast wouldn’t be “the right timing” 🤦🏽♂️ now he needs proof to give an opinion on things when he’s been doing it for all the years he’s had a pod🤦🏽♂️ ok man
Joe not talking about Diddy just confirms what a menace Puff is. If you like it or not, Joe is the most outspoken person in that industry. So him being that uptight speaks volumes. Let's not forget, there are pictures of Joe attending some Diddy parties. You never know what goes on bts...
What’s disgusting is how they are discussing Cassie’s role in all of this as if it was voluntary. I get what they are saying but she didn’t seem to want to be moving in those type of circles only puff
It ain’t gotta be about entertainment! We want to have the discussion period! It’s about putting the bs in our community idc how famous or rich they need to be outed
Yeaaa I think Joe is missing the part of where his voice can make a difference ….hopefully he wakes up one day and sees the positive influence his platform can have
That's not what that means....that's like saying dudes pay for puzzy can't get none for free. Sometimes its about convenience not accessibility. Him paying could just possibly have been the long term cheaper route much like buying puzzy in the long run ends up being the cheaper route. Cause he could have paid for lawyers,kept going back and forth to court for a year or more,plus the whole media coverage blocking any other potential deals during the legal process. Paying 30 million might have been just the cheaper option by leaps and bounds.
@@jeromejenkins151 nah bruh, innocent people who have access to the lawyers Diddy has access to, do not pay out money like this IMMEDIATELY after the public finds out without 1)her having actual proof and witnesses and 2) there is truth to the allegations. These are basic facts.
@@jeromejenkins151paying that when she originally asked would’ve been cheaper n saved him some embarrassment. He didn’t think she had it in her which if u do those things to somebody you already think they’re weak or that no one would believe them. That book would’ve definitely did more than 30 million just based on the details that were filed. N I’m pretty sure he paid more than that to make sure she doesn’t say anything else. But as u can see it only takes one person to bring everybody out. You think he’s gonna fight or settle with the new law suit or future law suits against him to take the cheaper route
He was found guilty convicted felon very different scenario. I was hoping she took him to criminal court so he can get what was due for all those decades of bullshit he got away with but she didn't I understand her but she was the only one that could have took him down but now he's just free it's a sad situation but I understand joe for removing that part once they settled
Cause they too p*ssy to go to the police and press charges. Closed mouth don’t get fed. If you don’t say sh*t don’t expect sh*t to happen. It’s weird how we’ve been “believing all women” since the 70s feminist wave and yet so many “victims” have somehow never found justice. Stop the bullsh*t and speak up or suffer in silence. Make your bed or don’t but either way that’s all on you.
It’s tricky because clearly Diddy could mess up everything Joe has built if he tackles this wrong. But you literally have to choose between your professional relationship and moral compass.
Proof that Diddy is so powerful he can shut a grown ass man up.. but that same grown ass man wants to act like it’s unbelievable that he had a 19 year old girl under his control
@@zephaniahmcdaniels he is but he knows how huge his platform. So many ppl wanted his take on the subject for a reason. If this situation is about anyone other than Diddy we know he'd be all over it
@@zephaniahmcdaniels Joe has been very transparent. He says things like "if an artist can deliver some slaps, then he wouldn't care about all the other things they're saying about that artist". He openly gave a list of people that he would never say anything bad about on several occasions even on Everyday struggle. He never said he was perfect. People used criticize him on Everyday struggle also cuz they say things like "Joe did not keep the same energy when such and such finally showed up on the show". He was always criticized for one thing or the other. People just forget about things in the past and act like he changed
Joe talking like somebody knowing he did some vile ish back in his day. This is nuts... shout out to Flip for keeping out of this 🐈 popping segment. They full of ish. Honey combs got them shook.
This is all so disappointing, I was abused from 18-20 I was a college student and I dropped out bc of it. I protected him from going to jail and that’s always haunted me. But if he was rich and unlikely to be found guilty bc he can afford good representation. You BET I’d take a couple million dollars bc that would probably hurt him more!! And it will afford me to have a better life!!! But he’s not rich and I protected him so I’ll never get SHIT. Good for Cassie usually I can take all the annoying things y’all say but this is too much
There was ALOT of vacillating when it came to Diddy. Even Flip didn’t add much insight! Goes to just what control and power Diddy {may} has cuz we’ve seen the JBP have very volatile opinions on similar topics involving other male celebrities. Just wanted Cassie to have peace and justice. Happy Thanksgiving JBP! 🦃💐🧡💛🤎
What alot of people dont realize is the process of a criminal investigation and trial can be just as if not more traumatic for the victim.. noone wants to sit in front of the world and describe in detail being sexually physically or even emotionally abused. Sometimes civil cases and just exposing the person is enough for some people so the world is aware or who he really is behind closed doors
@@MussoliniLondon Then Joe said that when he spoke to AK he was petrified after his Puff comments. Being that open about someone of Puffy's stature and with Cassie accusing him of that shit that hasn't been proven in court could open you up to a nasty lawsuit of your own. Joe getting roasted for tiptoeing around the subject is hypocritical seeing if they were in his shoes they probably would have done the same. Joe had to do what he had to do in order to protect his bread at the end of the day.
@@gunnyo50 Tbh Joe's joking about the petrified thing, he meant it in a way where AK's scared that Diddy will blow up his car too, AK was joking about it all through the week how he would have to hire security and start riding bikes etc, but I definitely believe Diddy did it, he needs Jail
Lmao Joe saying “I don’t have any evidence of him doing stuff “ 😭😭😭like you had evidence on all the people you gossiped on or just made content for the pod
Joe always on the side of the abuser cause you can't talk about Diddy because you don't know what's going on but had no problem kicking Meg back in for the past 3 years while also not knowing what was going on, he weird
This was my least favorite pod this year, so that's giving it grace. A room of men can't speak on sexual assault, the victims, or the rap industry without having survivors of sexual assault or professionals on the subject in the room. These are 50-year-old men who still grace strip clubs, refer to vagina as "nah-mean?", and objectivity anything with a BBL. This room will never be built for adult topics like what Puffy has been accused of. Keep it on Wale.
Joe Budden does not appreciate or see that people he calls brokies and that he doesn’t care about have turned paying patronies on to the pod in the first place. You need the non-paying customers as much as the paying customers. You gotta start understanding that mister Joe!
Joe worked hard to make his hip hop opinion valuable just to say his opinion doesn’t matter
Thank you!!!!
🎯
If you know Joe You know
Yall will be alright lol
Because in reality, it doesn't it just seems like it does. He knows that, the fans don't
I have so much respect for Ice. He’s the only one not joining Joe in making fun of Cassie’s abuse.
No the hell he’s not. He simply said he staying out of it he’s not there. Same way we all should feel until he’s found guilty! Oh.. except she never pressed criminal charges…
Any girl can say anything with the way yall think.. you don't even see women as being capable humans, it's like some people look at young woman as being autistic, I was offered drugs at 21 and said no
What abuse?
When did they make fun 🤔
To the people that liked this comment, delete ya selves
Salute to us non patronees, I almost was tempted to cop it but after those snippets dropped of Joe being on the ledge, I confirmed to myself that I’ll never buy that shit..PS it ain’t broke, I just don’t have an extra 4-10 hours to listen to extra content with safe takes & plea cops!
Facts
Only joevengers do that patreon bullshit. 😂😂
You’re not missing anything. There are just a bunch of men that abuse women over there and give each other high fives for doing so.
They almost got me too G
I peeped that too...fuk patreon
This whole thing made me unsubscribe from patreon and I’ll never give a dime to the Jbp. Real men stand against sexual abuse.
It’s still accusations tho. None of us know the truth. Him settling does not admit to guilt.
It’s still accusations? You don’t look yourself in the mirror and sleep well at night do you?
@@harlemkid144the moment he settled it stopped being just accusations
@@harlemkid144Thank you, people can't even listen carefully and sees that they not whit those allegations but most people on here or life would stand against police beating a blk men wrongfully, so I should call them coward?
@@d.o.z.e.shaolin7497 I work over night and sleep like a baby all day fam. My life good
Joe has definitely come on that podcast and criticized ppl for allegations he got from blogs before 100%….he’s protecting that relationship and he danced around it
He thinks he trending more than diddy right now . He has CTE
No “obligation”? Tf are you talking about. We all have an obligation to be stand up individuals.
@@d.o.z.e.shaolin7497he said there’s no obligation to speak about, not about being a stand up individual
So is your position that he should do tht moving forward? Or that he shouldn't have done that in the past?
@fearismanmade so I have to watch the whole thing to comment?????lol I could’ve had enough when it was getting dry…apparently a bunch of others felt the same as me so that makes you weird for standing on the other side. Bitch
Joe is selective. With both his accountability and his outrage. Especially when it’s someone he knows or respects. We know this. His comments and stances are completely expected.
I think you'll think twice too when you know someone you know blow up somebodys car 😂😂😂
🥴😬🙃 I can’t wait till this blows over. They got Joe ouchea looking moist 🥹😅
Isn’t everyone?
Right with that being said I gotta unsubscribe
This is a mad big L for Joe.
Joe and Ish really found a way to make Diddy the victim in this. Now that is talent.
If Cassie just wanted money and not justice than diddy is a victim of a shake down. Cassie dumbass chose to be with diddy for money.
There’s a version of there real thoughts
@@LordSmiththegodak
@@LordSmiththegod only Ice kept it real...... Joe was making jokes he still didn't address diddy in those leaked clips.
You see it too!
“Not knowing all the details” never stopped them before…lol
Bingo lol
Remember folks, even “entrepreneurs” have bosses they fear 🤷🏽♂️
Real
UHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dame Dash is undefeated
@@Yapliteshe proves his point over and over again years later!
Damn 😳 so true
Joe there's nothing wrong with freak offs if both parties are consensual about it. Drugging, Beating, Harassing, Coercing, Blackmailing someone to do a freak off and spreading the footage is the illigal part of the whole thing. Let's not act stupid.
The whole reason the entretaiment industry is a shit hold and people are abused on the daily is because nobody stand up against this people, they are always protected. Is about time people stop working to protect Diddy.
Do you know what accusations mean🤔
Cmon Joe it’s different.
They love to act stupid
What they are saying is everyone gets asked the same questions on the casting couch. Some stay and some leave. Now if someone set you on fire, made you kiss a crocodile, every time they saw you stuck their finger in your ass then put in your mouth would you stay? No me either. I am not victim shaming, I am honestly at what point are you a willing participant? It just seems odd to me.
Ice is the only one that stood on business. Shout to him. Joe is a weirdo and obviously terrified of losing that Diddy relationship. He himself is an abuser so of course he would make excuses for another abuser.
How “far” does joes diddy relationship go? Joe spoke about rubbing on his dog sexually. Plus the gay stuff
@@Heyyall332The INDUSTRY is scared to speak on diddy...excluding 50.
If I felt this way about a person I wouldn't waste my energy commenting under there podcast
Ice & Flip*
@@thechamp818dstyou water your energy on commenting under a strangers post tho? Be real, the comment section here for a reason
when flipp says don’t touch me.. I die with laughter !
See Mal handled the Diddy thing correctly. Called Diddy out for his nasty behavior and called the whole “culture” out for when it comes to people in the culture they have to defend them but, if it was a actor or politician the whole pod would dissect the issue and do a deep dive. However since it’s Diddy they scared and trying to protect their overall industry relationships.
You watch Mal podcast 😅
No one watches Mal dude. The JBP is the number one podcast, that diddy actually watches. The consequences are different. It goes beyond industry relationships.
So you are saying Joe a BIG OL USSY then. TY for validating my point and imagine caring what people watch or dont watch on their free time. Go back to being an imbecile ON THANKSGIVING. @@IsaAC-ct5rx
Ya gotta pick a side either Diddy run shit, snd can get people touched or he cant and some people want to see whats going on cause thats their peoples. Just like years ago when Joe was in tis very same position
@@IsaAC-ct5rx lol number 1 but scared to speak on issues
Joe didn’t want to speak on it because he does the same things Diddy was accused of. He doesn’t think Cassie is a victim. The invalidating started as soon as he said “I like freak-offs.” Sad
You’re twisting what he’s saying
Not sure how many ways Joe has to tell us he don’t give af about us before we start making it affect his bottom line
this comment is so true that I’m gonna post it again…because WE CAN dictate the way the pod goes. also shame on Ish for asking why the JBP has to be the “sacrificial lamb”?!? like they weren’t named #1 hip-hop podcast of the year
Comment of the year 👏🏿
No lies being told here. Joe has always said "fuck them fans" why we all laughed and still supported
I'm hearing a bunch of people say they cancelled Patreon and people are taking a break from the pod. I think I'm just off of it
Hearing Joe joke on Cassie and then talk about love for FOs.
Ice wasn't with none of that. Ice wasn't rolling wit it.
This episode was hard to hear as a man.
The last month of pods been trash, & the way Joe responds to the Cassie situation just added the garbage cherry on top, Joes just become a talking head at this point, basically admitted this episode we should no longer look to him for substance outside of the let’s get the views up hot takes he provides every now & then & even a lot of those seems premeditated to me
Wow, all of a sudden Joe is afraid of speaking his mind? The JBP should keep that same energy with the next person.
Exactly he always claim hes number 1 the podfather guess everyone a boss till diddy pulls up
If the next person allegedly blows up people cars in their driveways I am sure he will and people acting like they would not do the same to wave the Truth Teller banner for the internet is super duper CAP 🧢!!!!
@@brothernumpceewhich means Joe knew all along, believes it and is acting accordingly.
@@brooklynmedina7676facts joe been know and acting accordingly
@@brothernumpceecap!! Joe always talks big about he keeps the same energy and had beef with real street dudes he ain’t back down, he ain’t scared blah blah he not like the other pu**y podders, etc…
Joe went out like a pure SUCKA on this episode!
He been that…
100%@@declass9481
He Been That ….. Same Man That Said “ Well I Might Like To Get My Ass Licked Here Or There “ he’s one of diddys fun boys at that party
For them to compare a freaky night of exploration to what Diddy is alleged of doing is nuts. Cassie claims she didnt want to take part in these things nor did she enjoy them. One report said she was crying before hand and throwing up at the thought. Yall really tried it smh
I think Cassie liked 50/50 of those things. I think he strung along her dreams as a artist
@jussamaru4153 I'm not rolling bro. They are described as very toxic. Even if she did like 50/50 the other 50% she didn't like is wayy too much anyone should have to endure
@@AveryB.0 of course I'm not denying the fact He don't be on some weirdo shyt. What I'm saying she could have settled because of the lifestyle
@@jussamaru4153I ain't rolling either. I read that shit. None of that shit sounded consensual. It weird out here bro
Im no Diddy fan right, but how do we know she didn't enjoy and then started feeling some type of way after not saying she doesn't have that right but is that really fair if u have fun then later say I hated do u get to sue? Now she may be telling the truth and Diddy may be a nasty man but do we really know or are we just chosing sides based off past alleged behavior and hip hop heads know what I'm talking bout but whatever I'm gonna say I don't know who's lying or telling the truth so I don't know shit and I don't think most people know anything about the TRUTH either
Joe wanted to Diddy bop around that subject so bad
Right. Take that.
"Diddy bop" I see what you did there 😮
No pause "Press Play"
Check the leak
And he did lol
Shout out to Mal for being solid as always and having the balls to be a real man. Joe got y’all out here looking like industry puppets. He knew his checkered past better not speak up.
Facts
That part
Ask mal a question about Jay z
Nobody cares about what Mal has to say
Everyone is selective - It’s the media.. Plenty of topics Mal was silent on..
Joe is very vocal about how he doesn't like sex traffic and rape victims fighting with lawsuits but ain't talking about how quick Puff settled that
No Defamation lawsuit, no pushback no nothing. He paid that woman and wished her a happy ever after lol
Yall thought puff was guilty no matter how fast slow or if he ever settled. Yall really need to stop acting like things that aren't evidence are evidence.
Joe mad he paid his net worth😂😂
@@mixtapeweezy6871man shut up , defending that creepy MF
Did you listen to the podcast or nah 🤔
The Diddy situation is above Joes pay grade 🤣😂
With Joes stance moving forward they shouldn't talk about anybody elses scandal. Went off on Jada Pinkett Smith, etc. This is an example of how our culture limits growth. Yall have dogged people out now its Diddy you have all this professionalism.
Stop listening then…EverY media outlet is selective… Don’t hold Joe to different standards… Puff settled a civil suit not a criminal suit…
Normally I go against ICE, I always ride with Ish. But today, ICE is the truth, Joe constantly does hypocritical stuff. I'm super surprised that Flip didn't go absolutely nuts. My guy Ish, is not holding his normal stance and it's nasty
Flips eye roll when joe budden thinks Diddy is going to kill him is hilarious 😂
Yet, people think he had Kim killed.
That was laughable
Shout out to Ice for being the only one to keep it real. The rest are acting like they’ve never heard any of the creepy or sus things about Diddy 😒
and plus kept pressuring Ice to listen to R. Kelly
Joe literally gave all the excuses in the world just to say he ain't coming at Diddy cuz they cool lmao just like we thought
If you had a podcast would you call out your boy just for views?
@@KingKalidor I would just keep it real and say that's my man's fk yall
@@KingKalidoryou & these dumbasses on this Pod think its about view. It’s about exposing someone who has sexually assaulted women & men too , got ppl killed, lord knows what else. He so big in the industry everyone too scared to speak up. They been saying tht about Puff since the 90s lol,
@@KingKalidordon’t get into the business in the first place tf? We put our trust into you what is this?
@@KingKalidoryou don't do it for views, you do it cause that's simply what should be done?? Lmao
What was described as a freak off in the law suit was without her consent, under coercion and broke the law. Men don’t have to try hard to understand that. Stop it
Joe's whole rant could've just been cut down to "diddy is richer than me and i don't want to risk that business relationship and also i'm scared that he'll press me if i say anything"
Dude tries so hard to sound smart and calculated about not standing on the morals he claims he has. That's it. You either keep it 100 or don't. Either way, own it like a man
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JBP always gets credit for not putting an ad in their pod every 10 mins. Tried watching some of these other podcasts and the shit is pure cringe.
53:35 the way how Flip pushes the mic away from him😂 Joe is so full of it. I would've respected it so much more if they didn't speak about it at all. Joe just spews so much ignorance. I gotta take a break from pod.
Facts
The whole NY scared to talk about Diddy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ice might be the realistic on this show. He might be the only guy up there to take on Diddy subject head on
He couldn't wait to talk shit about DJ envy, he even pressed his co-hosts to dog pile. So I can agree with people saying he has selective outrage. He frequently gives Flip hell for not wanting to speak negatively about his friends... Yet Joe takes the same stance.
Man says I'm holding people accountable today....Unless it's Diddy😂😂😂
I wish they would have done their research on the Cassie topic. It was too late for her to file criminal charges due to the statute of limitations. But Joe over here insinuating that she’s disingenuous. From the sounds of it he’s already picked Diddy’s side. Either he doesn’t believe her or he’s being performative because he know Diddy watching
But she is disingenuous. If someone does the things diddy is ALLEGEDLY accused of to you in let’s say dec 12 of 2008, and you didn’t file a report, press charges and have that person tried in court on Dec 12 of 2008, and years person who wronged you that you willingly didn’t press charges on years ago becomes a billionaire and all of a sudden you wanna file a lawsuit for money (because that’s what she file for, a settlement not to put diddy in jail) that is 1000% disingenuous and a form of self disrespect cause why wait when you could went to the police the min it happened to you? Because she wanted to keep the good times rolling until she had enough. That’s the truth, you lil internet warriors refuse to accept that all Cassie is, is a gold digger and a diva (the female version of hustler).
No it’s not. New York City doesn’t have statue limitations on sexual assault or rape.
The filing wasn’t only about rape. The Adult Survivors Act in which her allegations fell under was about to expire, you can look all of this up.
Every since Joe went to that Diddy party, where he said he disappeared for 2hrs supposedly got lost in the mansion.....he's been dressing different and wearing a cape for anything Diddy.....go back and listen to his Diddy party experience 😂
episode #?
@@ChicoDustyI'm sitting here waiting 👀🧐
I remember that ep.
I’ve been waiting for someone to say this. Cause the way he is caping for Diddy and belittling FO as if it’s nothing, I am appalled. I’m like how he gonna call out Drake a few weeks ago with passion about him dating young girls and here we have Diddy’s abuse stories of how he treated young girls for decades and this is what Joe does? I’m like the only conclusion I can come too, is perhaps he was engaging in said FO perhaps with Diddy, during the times he was up at his mansion. Cause I can’t imagine him protecting him this much for anything else. Diddy either had him bent over or he was engaging in abusive shit with Diddy.
Damn I remember that one super old, back when he was doing state of the culture
Joe scared to death of diddy. If this was another person they would have had a deep dive on all that shit
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Facts
Yeah he is
Joe is going to maintain his Diddy bag by all costs
Fact
Watch Charlemagne wont say anything negative to Puff either!
@@Derrickneal1352 Nobody will ever drag Charlamagne or Nore for it. They only want to hear it from Joe and not the people that are actually currently signed under Puff
As he should. Why should he jeopardize anything because strangers on the internet who are mostly losers want him too ? Especially when there is no hardcore evidence and she opted for money over justice.
Joe don't want Tahiry getting any ideals😂😂😂😂
LMAO
This aged well, she a abuser too.
Mal is the type of stand up honest guy any woman would be proud to have. He can be trusted! Mal has integrity!!
Have more respect for flip after this for calling out joe in the start of the pod
Called out Joe then proceeded to be radio silent. Flip kept his opinion to himself the entire segmentm
@@raisondetra5652Flip will crash his car himself with his wild skits before he allow his car to be bombed 💣 by Mr.Freakoff😂
When it’s a partner, husband or boyfriend that commits those acts against you it is extremely hard to get a DA to even file the charges AND it puts the victim under attack again…this keeps happening because we can’t get men to hold each other accountable. If men just gave their homeboys shade when they knew this was happening it would help a lot.
The homeboys be in on the freakoffs, why would they hold them accountable. A better question is, do women understand the depths of men?
Better idea would be for Cassie to become an activist but she took the money and will continue to shut the fuck up until the money is spent. The fucked up thing is we only heard these things since the beginning of the Diddy era and it gives Robert Kelly vibes
The only one that feels more vindicated than Cassie right now is 50 Cent
He got the industry acceptance he so desperately wanted and hasn’t unspread his ass cheeks ever since.
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Not too much on Joe!
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Why should he, cause you said so?
@@ifesinachiorijekwe10 because he's always hung his hat on integrity, morals, etc. Why stop that on THIS situation in particular? He tears up MAD other people on this podcast based on accusations
Rory and Mal did talk about Diddy and went in on him. It was a good convo
Yeah cause they aren’t Joe Budden lol
Yea they not important or a mainstream platform. They can say what they want. But let it be Jay Z turn…Mal will be silent af
@@kalpha4364 that's true he does shut up when it comes to jay
Because they keep it REAL !! And , they ALWAYS HAVE ‼️
Yes because Rory and mal didn’t get a job from diddy at any point … they don’t owe diddy nothing ….im sure if jayz was to be in the same position mal would be quiet aswell🤷🏽♂️
19:21 Why? Because JOE has said he's the voice of the Culture!
You can't be the voice, when your associates AREN'T involved. Then when they are, you clam-up.
We all know Joe had his OWN abuse allegations a couple of years ago.
He has to be quiet.
I just wish he would say that versus this nonsense he's spewing.
Not Joe getting mad because he's scared to speak about Diddy
HE DONT WANT HIS CAR BLOWN UP. LET JOE JUST CRACK HIS JOKES AND CRITUQUE HIS R&B
I think joe purposely told mel to stay home this pod, cause that would’ve been interesting to hear Mel’s take 😩
My biggest issue with this is if Joe doesnt want to talk thats fine, but just say that instead of lieing that the pod only talk about music, which is totally false
Justice for Cassie
Been foreseeing for a week joe was gonna tapdance around the diddy situation to biblical proportions
Never been the same since that Fedora 😂
Joe Joe, I almost got the patreon till I saw the snippets of how you dnt care about the patreon members. How can I buy into that
the silence after Joe said he likes freak offs too was crazyy
If we're being honest.... Most men like freak offs
especially his comments about the girls also being fucked up.... like what's going on w this pod
Joe saying has aged LIKE MILK.
welcome to the industry PC version of the JBP for the 2024! It's been a ride big dawg Salue✌🏿
Nobody knows how long Cassie has been fighting this. We only know when it got to this explosive part. I remember a while back when the husband was talking recklessly to and about Puffy.
She left a good dude for lavish life
Left ryan leslie because she wanted the "good life".
@@askellpositive okay ... and?
Joe know that the only reason people was hounding him for his opinion is because he has the strongest opinions on everybody else but now he wanna handle diddy with care
Man this guy really thinks people are dumb 🤦🏽♂️ he has had no problem speaking on anybody else who’s been accused of all types of lewd, heinous and criminal activity, but now all of a sudden he’s afraid of things being chopped up and misinterpreted🤦🏽♂️ now speaking on it so fast wouldn’t be “the right timing” 🤦🏽♂️ now he needs proof to give an opinion on things when he’s been doing it for all the years he’s had a pod🤦🏽♂️ ok man
Joe wants the number #1 spot but doesn’t want the responsibility that comes with it.
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Joe not talking about Diddy just confirms what a menace Puff is. If you like it or not, Joe is the most outspoken person in that industry. So him being that uptight speaks volumes. Let's not forget, there are pictures of Joe attending some Diddy parties. You never know what goes on bts...
BTS... Between the sheets? Oh no JOE! RUN HUNNIE! 🌈 🏃🏾 💨
Buddens isn't all that outspoken, he just has a loud voice. And people have been saying weird stuff about puff for a long time.
No. Joe has skeletons also and just minding his business
@@blackmcbain3145 yooo stop lmao
@@whayes8084 this is also true.
It’s safe to say that Mel was right when she gave her perspective pods back about Ish and Joe.
Joe downplaying Diddys definition of freak offs to match shit he’s done WITH CONSENT.
Joe had plenty to say about that white party he wasn’t even at
That’s when that cape got put on
Joe is staying in the mindset of innocent until proven.
Staying with the facts only
" I'm holding ppl accountable today, some people " 😂
You don't know about Diddy, but reports every story and give in depth opinions about any nucca from Atlanta and the South based solely on allegations
Not that Joe cares but I’ve lost a lot of respect for him. Actually expected better from him
What’s disgusting is how they are discussing Cassie’s role in all of this as if it was voluntary. I get what they are saying but she didn’t seem to want to be moving in those type of circles only puff
It ain’t gotta be about entertainment! We want to have the discussion period! It’s about putting the bs in our community idc how famous or rich they need to be outed
😂😂😂😂😂 facts. The topics at hand aren’t entertaining lol
Yeaaa I think Joe is missing the part of where his voice can make a difference ….hopefully he wakes up one day and sees the positive influence his platform can have
@1:50:16 YES! s/o Living Single and one of the greatest/most infectious opening themes ever made.
He so scared to speak on it. It’s actually quite funny
Bottom line is, if Diddy was innocent he would not have paid the money. Simple
That's not what that means....that's like saying dudes pay for puzzy can't get none for free. Sometimes its about convenience not accessibility. Him paying could just possibly have been the long term cheaper route much like buying puzzy in the long run ends up being the cheaper route. Cause he could have paid for lawyers,kept going back and forth to court for a year or more,plus the whole media coverage blocking any other potential deals during the legal process. Paying 30 million might have been just the cheaper option by leaps and bounds.
@@jeromejenkins151 nah bruh, innocent people who have access to the lawyers Diddy has access to, do not pay out money like this IMMEDIATELY after the public finds out without 1)her having actual proof and witnesses and 2) there is truth to the allegations. These are basic facts.
@@jeromejenkins151paying that when she originally asked would’ve been cheaper n saved him some embarrassment. He didn’t think she had it in her which if u do those things to somebody you already think they’re weak or that no one would believe them. That book would’ve definitely did more than 30 million just based on the details that were filed. N I’m pretty sure he paid more than that to make sure she doesn’t say anything else. But as u can see it only takes one person to bring everybody out. You think he’s gonna fight or settle with the new law suit or future law suits against him to take the cheaper route
Ish's take is so nasty, I'm positive he had different energy for R.Kelly. Joe openly said to throw R.Kelly under the jail, keep the same energy.
Ish’s takes are always nasty
He was found guilty convicted felon very different scenario. I was hoping she took him to criminal court so he can get what was due for all those decades of bullshit he got away with but she didn't I understand her but she was the only one that could have took him down but now he's just free it's a sad situation but I understand joe for removing that part once they settled
Man Joe was tap dancing his ass off around that Puff story 😂
Glad Mel said FTN for the day 💪🏾💯
Everybody thumbs down this episode to teach Joe a lesson
Statistically, most victims of assault NEVER get justice….
Cause they too p*ssy to go to the police and press charges. Closed mouth don’t get fed. If you don’t say sh*t don’t expect sh*t to happen. It’s weird how we’ve been “believing all women” since the 70s feminist wave and yet so many “victims” have somehow never found justice.
Stop the bullsh*t and speak up or suffer in silence. Make your bed or don’t but either way that’s all on you.
It’s tricky because clearly Diddy could mess up everything Joe has built if he tackles this wrong. But you literally have to choose between your professional relationship and moral compass.
Proof that Diddy is so powerful he can shut a grown ass man up.. but that same grown ass man wants to act like it’s unbelievable that he had a 19 year old girl under his control
@@taylorhilei Joe always hung his hat on integrity & morals as well. That's what makes this crazy imo. He's independent of all of this stuff anyway
@@zephaniahmcdaniels he is but he knows how huge his platform. So many ppl wanted his take on the subject for a reason. If this situation is about anyone other than Diddy we know he'd be all over it
@@zephaniahmcdaniels Joe has been very transparent. He says things like "if an artist can deliver some slaps, then he wouldn't care about all the other things they're saying about that artist". He openly gave a list of people that he would never say anything bad about on several occasions even on Everyday struggle. He never said he was perfect. People used criticize him on Everyday struggle also cuz they say things like "Joe did not keep the same energy when such and such finally showed up on the show". He was always criticized for one thing or the other. People just forget about things in the past and act like he changed
All respect loss. This Joe is 🐱🐈.
He also has almost similar allegations. lol if you fine with him having them then you can’t be mad at Puff
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@@Musa-ut6cebut youre here…. So does that mean you’re fine with it ? 🤔
Flips fans being called Flippas is hilarious 😂😂
Don’t touch me is funny every time 😂😂
😂😂😂😂 classic
Y’all all up there scared of Diddy 😂😂😂
Joe talking like somebody knowing he did some vile ish back in his day. This is nuts... shout out to Flip for keeping out of this 🐈 popping segment. They full of ish. Honey combs got them shook.
This is all so disappointing, I was abused from 18-20 I was a college student and I dropped out bc of it. I protected him from going to jail and that’s always haunted me. But if he was rich and unlikely to be found guilty bc he can afford good representation. You BET I’d take a couple million dollars bc that would probably hurt him more!! And it will afford me to have a better life!!! But he’s not rich and I protected him so I’ll never get SHIT. Good for Cassie usually I can take all the annoying things y’all say but this is too much
God Bless You. 💛💛💛
Joe 🕺 ! All those times they spoke on other people's drama, now he wanna say he's not speaking on it because there's no proof. Come on Joe!!
2:25 I LOVE Flip, he don't cut Joe any slack 😂😂😂
Let's GO!
There was ALOT of vacillating when it came to Diddy. Even Flip didn’t add much insight! Goes to just what control and power Diddy {may} has cuz we’ve seen the JBP have very volatile opinions on similar topics involving other male celebrities. Just wanted Cassie to have peace and justice. Happy Thanksgiving JBP! 🦃💐🧡💛🤎
The Tap Dance Boys.
flip pushed the mic away; i wanted to hear his take. he was gonna keep it real.
What alot of people dont realize is the process of a criminal investigation and trial can be just as if not more traumatic for the victim.. noone wants to sit in front of the world and describe in detail being sexually physically or even emotionally abused. Sometimes civil cases and just exposing the person is enough for some people so the world is aware or who he really is behind closed doors
Rory & Mal SPOKE ABOUT IT!😅😅
NO ONE IN THE POD UNIVERSE DIDN'T.
Akademiks probably went in the most, peoole are actually scared 😂
@@MussoliniLondon Then Joe said that when he spoke to AK he was petrified after his Puff comments. Being that open about someone of Puffy's stature and with Cassie accusing him of that shit that hasn't been proven in court could open you up to a nasty lawsuit of your own. Joe getting roasted for tiptoeing around the subject is hypocritical seeing if they were in his shoes they probably would have done the same. Joe had to do what he had to do in order to protect his bread at the end of the day.
@@gunnyo50 Tbh Joe's joking about the petrified thing, he meant it in a way where AK's scared that Diddy will blow up his car too, AK was joking about it all through the week how he would have to hire security and start riding bikes etc, but I definitely believe Diddy did it, he needs Jail
Lmao Joe saying “I don’t have any evidence of him doing stuff “ 😭😭😭like you had evidence on all the people you gossiped on or just made content for the pod
Joe always on the side of the abuser cause you can't talk about Diddy because you don't know what's going on but had no problem kicking Meg back in for the past 3 years while also not knowing what was going on, he weird
Well he’s put his hands on women too and even caused a miscarriage so it’s not that surprising
What part of Meg is a liar are you not comprehending ???
This was my least favorite pod this year, so that's giving it grace. A room of men can't speak on sexual assault, the victims, or the rap industry without having survivors of sexual assault or professionals on the subject in the room. These are 50-year-old men who still grace strip clubs, refer to vagina as "nah-mean?", and objectivity anything with a BBL. This room will never be built for adult topics like what Puffy has been accused of. Keep it on Wale.
It’s not too late to take this down Joe 😂
Thanks for the Thanksgiving upload y'all
Joe Budden does not appreciate or see that people he calls brokies and that he doesn’t care about have turned paying patronies on to the pod in the first place. You need the non-paying customers as much as the paying customers. You gotta start understanding that mister Joe!
So we end friendships for asking for the books.... but we save friendships if they beat a trick. Damn
Whew!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Joe dont want his car BLOWN up, I feel it
Holding shorty like a 85 inch is wild 😂😂😂
Shoutout to the “Flippas” 😂😂😂