Patreon EXCLUSIVE | This Is A Dialogue | The Joe Budden Podcast
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Emotions run high in this Patreon-exclusive episode as the gang covers a wide spectrum of topics. Joe starts by sharing a story of some wigs he bought for Melyssa before they discuss whether she is low maintenance after a planned trip was canceled. The JBP then unpacks one of Mel’s past relationships, if guy friendships are stronger than female friendships, + more!
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Joe is the master at moving the goal post and contradicting himself, shit is classic😂😂😂
Fr🤣
Everytime 😂
He is a narcissist and gaslighter . Liar is an understatement
@frankiecarter9430 You sound like you know the man personally, not!
The wig segment SENT ME! When Joe said “Mel… are you doing this on purpose?” 😂😂😂😂😂
This episode went from therapeutic to pure foolery 😂
The transition was insane!
Because joe can never admit when he is wrong
1:17:49 Where the fucking the ex convo starts between Ish and Joe.
I dont GAF what no one say...This is 1000% the best pod in the land.😢😢😢 I haven't seen Men publicly acknowledged a woman's feelings and or happiness on a public platform ever. Mel needed this session with her brothers. I hope she felt heard in this moment!!! Her person is out there!!! They will find each other in due time. Open yourself up to Happiness. Love y'all 💜💜💜
Ish killed it by the way. But Mel like most women have a difficult time handling the truth......
Her person is Ish. I’m just waiting for the day they realize it.
Mel person is Mel. She was a video model, treated a certain way, she was a model, a actress, she is used to be catered to, appeased by men. Anytime a man does not appease her, she finds fault, but basically its appeasement. Mel has stated she have dated men of all types, plenty, the common component is Mel. If genuine live and aff3ction cannot be found, you start with the common denominator, it's always Mel.
Women get recognized and represented all over platforms. Even have their own. That's what made kevin samuels a favorite for men. We finally had sum1 advocating for us.
This might be my favorite episode so far. I applaud Mel's openness. I'm sure being open about something so personal in front of hundreds of thousands of people isn't easy. And the last 30ish minutes had me dying 😂.
mine toooo. love the transparency and the safe space they created for her.
Dog I may have to be patron
@@axa5005😊
Flip was amazing in this episode. Really put the depth of his mind on display, and greatly helped make this a classic episode. Greatest pod in the world.
Ish: “Let me finish”
Joe: “I don’t want to”
😂😂😂😂😂
I died 😂
This Patreon right here is why Joe picked Flip! Much respect for flip!! LOVED his
analytical take. ❤
flip's serious side is quite literally a gift that he should give the world more of. you can always see it in how loyal he is with friends but help mel open up and speak about something like that was different.
Deadass that made me really fw flip heavy
I said the same thing; but not so eloquently….
He does , just on his own platform ..
Facts
Flip is good at that for sure
I can't say this enough, having 6 people on the pod is really nice. I feel like it gives a really good balance of opinions
I agree, but not enough. I wish there was another woman’s perspective so Mel doesn’t get drowned out in misogyny as often. As well as another male perspective that is more emotionally intelligent.
@@99chavis Omg yes, it's getting hard to watch them speak over her. I agree one more maybe off camera the way Parks is would be a great fit
Probably one of the best podcast episodes ever produced by Budden. This is easily the best episode, post Rory & Mal era. Deep and thought provoking.
I don't even watch them dudes anymore
And this is why we are faithful listeners, and this is why this podcast is #1
Facts this is so 🔥🔥
The Ish analogies allow me to accept his seat. Nigga is a poorly articulated gold mine. Lol
“But when you put that tea bag in”
Wow Mel and ice admitting the bottle was their therapist was so real and raw for them to openly admit. Kudos to them! This was a great episode
Y’all really brought tears to me. I felt Mel’s attitude towards joy soooo deep. Also so nice to hear Flips insight. He’s intuitive and sweet. Really really lovely episode. Thanks guys, keep up this amazing work. The shows been my favourite for yonks and the improvements with this new team are outstanding. Grown people, grown tall, real connections and energy. I appreciate all of you, here’s your flowers 💐 💐💐💐💐✊🏾💓
Same
I appreciate how Joe was quiet and attentive in letting parts of this episode unfold without rushing them or interrupting. I loved this episode for the vulnerability and connection in it.
Nah he kept interrupting Mel as she was obviously trying to get some things off her chest.
People I hope you agree with me that this was such a heartfelt episode. So many people - including me - relate with Mel's situation and approach. We have been hurt so much that we cope by never really attaching, and detaching easily. It's unhealthy but we believe we need to do that to protect ourselves. And the one time we don't do that and let our guard down, we are disappointed so badly that we become even more guarded.
So doing the same thing to someone else that was done to you? Got it
🎉
@@AmbassadorofSalemLmao you misunderstood the entire thing & u sound like a crybaby. It’s life.
Literally almost everyone does it.
Joe is funny when he gets caught. He’s the master at gaslighting, moving the goalposts, changing the topic when he’s caught red handed. This also explains the tension between Joe and Ish, I knew Joe was jealous of ice but didn’t know why…now we know
Why
There’s no tension man lol
Joe will never admit when he did some werido shit🤣
You regurgitated everything they just said
Now go back to to that TAXSTONE INTERVIEW HE DID!!! People was hating on tax for going off in JOE 😂😂😂😂😂
This episode is iconic. It's wild. The emotional 🎢 of it all.
This episode is a microcosm of what the JBP is. Emotional, Hilarious, and Chaotic. Best pod in the world
Perfect description 💥
Flip demonstrated that he’s the most emotionally intelligent member of this podcast staff. And so much love and props out to M4. This was therapeutic and inspiring.
He always been that watch his pod flip da script. Majority of his interviews are in depth
The same guy who didn’t know about a woman’s ovulation cycle? Lol
@@Skyfall22 Emotional intelligence is not sex education/reproductive education. They’re completely different things.
So true about flip! Who woulda thunk it?
He's not he reads people well. He himself is emotional all the time
The way you guys ain’t leaving us empty handed during your break is legendary. Great episode
Gotta give it to Mel for sharing that story. She is exactly right. Why get excited over anything. But it is a sad existence so big up to flip for bringing that convo up
My male platonic bestie always tells me like it is. He says “You always say no one protects you… but I’m protecting you by telling you to leave that ninja alone.” I don’t listen but he is right. His friendship means everything to me.
Never thought JBP would make my eyes water with a knot in my throat trying not to cry from having an emotional epiphany. Loved it
you and me bothhhhh. very eye opening and low-key triggering lmao
I lost my mom last year and know exactly what Mel was speaking of. People withdraw and I had to cut so many people out.
Right! I felt the same 👊🏾
And then cry from laughter minutes later 😂😂
This episode was sooo fire!! I’ve learned something about Joe in some of these debates he has with Ish. Joe gives vague explanations of his views initially and then when he’s about to get pinned, he pivots his view, which changes the dynamic of the conversation. For this debate in particular, I gave it to Ish lol. Good stuff fellas! Mel’s transparency piece was insightful and I believe she helped a lot of people who struggle with pessimism.
Flip & Mel cooked this episode. This podcast keeps getting better & better. 🙏🏾
Yes.
Sending you love and healing energy Mel! I’ve followed you on your journey for years, and I respect you for being transparent with class. ❤️🩹💜
Flip saying I’m sorry at the end of Mel’s telling of her story brought tears to my eyes. 😢
That was deep
Same I hope Mel taking care of herself. Flip might be a wild dude but he super loyal when it comes to his friends and that’s so dope to see
Yeah I’m in tears 😢
Time stamp i was listening at work lol didn't see lol
Time stamp please!!!!
Joe and Ish arguing over they ex’s was classic there still some feelings there 😂
Easy to see how these niggas fell out for 6 years
Ish was heartbroken joe was with his ex Love 😂😂😂😂
Ppl like u are gaslighters. If u haven't got beat up already for it, u will b4 u die. They were definitely not arguing over their exes Joe didn't wanna admit he said something n went against it. N ish kept repeating it but they totally ignored him n went a different direction n that's what was getting him pissed. But ima let u cook tbo
They are both in their feelings over some some old box that neither of em hitting no more. Somebody knocking the bottom outta both of them chick's and they In there catching feelings on the pod😅
@@mopar_keys men shouldn't laugh at a man's pain
Mel. Sorry for your loss. It’s amazing to understand. I lost my mom to cancer too. I wish I could give you a hug. I know Flip only has good intentions, but everyone deserves love and happiness. Hope and faith is something we learn and become better at. Because of this lesson, you have become stronger but please never give up on hope. God bless ❤
This was a great conversation. I applaud Mel for being brave enough to be so vulnerable in an open platform. Also, the guys having this conversation with Mel and coming from a place of honesty and love is priceless.
Queenzflip is really the ODB of the group. I been peeping. He’s extremely cultured and well read. And thoughtful. So much smarter than he’s given credit for
FOR REAL! He has a lot of wisdom
I agree..we all love the addition of Flip.
Very true!
Factssss he is legendary
He plays the wild , lit character / role to suck people in…he’s much deeper and a great addition to the pod
Dang big ups for Mel. Not even much of a fan of her but the emotional maturity and being able to keep calm to exude her perspective is phenomenal.
I’m so glad Melissa is on this show, so many of us can identify with her. I appreciate Joe for letting this rock.😊
He never let's it rock on the main pod. There's a More On Mel swxtion that's even deeper. Sad honestly be sure that woman has been thru hell. You can Google her accident and see her laid out on the road with people holding her head together so her brain won't fall out. I wish they would give her the safe space more
I love Melissa she's my idol.
OMG! This was a therapy session at best!!! I just want to hug y’all! But I love the support and love here! As a therapist I wish some of my clients could experience this kind of love and support from their loved ones.
This episode made me cry. Mel, I see you. I am you. Shout out to Flip. I feel like he was the only one that empathized...FELT her pain. Everyone else seemed to be more concerned about making their points. I know they meant well, tho.. This was an excellent episode.
My mother's death still ways heavy on me and that was 6 years ago. I feel you Mel
I felt the same way almost as if they were making excuses for the way dude treated her instead understanding her emotional
Investment. I got teary eyed because i lost my mom and had to take care of her during her illness so i understand Mel completely 😢❤
Honestly, watching them do that made me realize the flaws in myself at time. Us men have the tendency to be so concentrated in the ''solution'' or extracting the lesson out of the experience that we can sometimes completely miss what is going on right before our eyes. The point wasn't more important than empathizing with the full context and attempting to understand why Mel came to that conclusion. I recently had an argument with a close female friend and at some point while I was reiterating my point for perhaps the 100TH time I looked up and realized she was crying, at that moment I had a bit of an epiphany, and realized I care wayyyy more about her than I do about this argument and while trying to show her where some of what she was saying may not have made complete sense I literally was neglecting to see her and notice how much the conversation was hurting her until it came out in tears. To be clear I don't think men should coddle women's feelings and tell them what they want to hear but I think we can do a better job of incorporating empathy in certain conversations.
@@viperboi9459 wow. ❤️
@samj8617 They weren't making excuses. They were telling her the way she viewed the relationship might not have been the way he was viewing it
Y’all going crazy with these Patreon Exclusive drops! Salute!!!
Yooo they been blowin minds wit these pat exclusives n i thought it was gn be a dry week cuz of they vaca shiiit we been gettn blessed everyday yall go on vaca more 😂😂
They showing out frfr! And I'm here for it. 🙌🏾🔥
Shit we pay for y’all get for free 😂😂😂😂
Broke ass ppl can’t pay for patreon
On ig they said they dropping 5 this week
“Ronald Isley” 🤣🤣 & ish ran with it lmfaooo
Great episode on how much respect and professionalism all display on the pod. That’s how you argue, you yell out your points and maintain a loyal friendship. Keep laying out the blueprints to this, best podcast hands down.
Joe buying and picking out the wigs for Mel is absolutely insane 😭 nah Joe is a great boss man
Mad insane and hilarious
Facts!!
Cartoon man sketch it up
Ya know I think the best part of this cast is how different each person's ideology is.
The variety and range is amazing!
This episode was fire!!!!! The group therapy session had me in tears, I totally related to every word shared! Thank you 😢🙏❤
This Just Might Be One Of The Greatest JBP Episodes Ever! 💯🙌🏾 Salute to the whole cast Amazing Job!
Mel had me in tears because I adopted that mindset overtime as well due to past situations. And it's so hard to reprogram your mind once you've actually been through those type of let down because it leaves you so openand vulnerable and with the knowing of what could happen it makes so much harder
What a range of emotions!! One of the best episodes dead or alive 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This episode made me subscribe to Patreon 100% it was so raw filled with up & down emotions I LOVED IT!
JOE SAID "She had to have had to FINAGLE" lol!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow! Incredible show! Salute Flip showing his emotional maturity & brotherly advice for Sister Mel. Salute Mel for being strong enough to discuss her vulnerabilities. This show was really healthy for many people dealing with the grief of relationships ending and the minds defence mechanism to protect one's heart/emotions from future pain. Great discussion. I appreciate Joe for letting Flip do his thing without interruption, which shows his sensitivity to the situation in real time. Peace & Power to all JBP crew & fans. 👊🏾🙏🏾
I’m in stitches😂😂😂😂 this whole Mel wig segment is GOLD! Joe said she looked like a 🦝 😮😂
LMAOOO🤣
YO THIS MIGHT BE ONE OF MY FAVOURITE EPISODES SINCE WATCHING JOE BUDDEN PODCAST, IT’S SO INSIGHTFUL AND PERSONAL. I LOVE THIS, I GOTTA GET ON PATREON!!
Great honest & raw conversation, more of this please
This is the kind of conversation I'm here for - you think you're talking about yourself - but you're literally talking about EVERYBODY. Thank you for having the courage
Philosopher Flip in his bag today…I want an episode like this for everyone
LMAO THAT SCREAMING MATCH IS HILARIOUS
When Flip said "How is a Ni99@ name in China" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Flip saying to Joe “ what I tell you about talking like that in front of me” when Joe said he had “Ds” in his phone is the funniest realist moment in JBP history. Had me crying laughing 😂
Flip dropped a gem. Mel detaches so easy from expectations to the point that she'll manifest subpar experiences. I think that detachment is to protect her from disappointment. I know if Mel read this, she'd feel where I'm coming from. Universal Laws!
This is deep as shit
@@KemetShamar huh? She said something colorist?
@@KemetShamarhow is she a colorist and have said she and admitted to dating all kinds of people and different colors
@@KemetShamarDemons can’t become angels?
@@KemetShamar How do you know all of that though? And do you think compassion is conditional? I guess it's the humanity in me that see's beyond all this stuff that trips ya'll up.
1:43:33 love this pod. I’m laid up in the hospital. Just had a colostomy (shit bag) reversal. So glad y’all give me life in this sad ass building.
Get better soon
Wow this episode was so deep , raw and open! And I’m sure this resonates with a lot of people what was discussed!
Wow Flip is introspective and thought-provoking when he wants to be lol. It's nice to see, aside from the turn up and yelling. My heart goes out to Mel because I totally understand where she's coming from and I relate. I wish her the best in the future. Props to y'all for creating a safe space for this dialogue.
This episode got me signing up for patreon! Love y’all forreal!
Joe with the WARNING SHOT - 1:45:18 to 1:45:27
Ish playing dumb and calling Joe bluff - 1:45:30 to 1:45:32
Joe hititng Ish with the gut shot and he start getting EMOTIONAL - 1:45:34
Look at Mel and Flip 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Flip. Kudos brotha. This brings a new light to the POD We need more of it. Don’t shy away from this ❤
I think Mel is right. If you are dealing with someone, and that person is going through something traumatic, you should at least be honest and have the decency to tell them that you want to leave due to whatever reason
-Too early in the relationship
-Not enough emotional bandwidth
To ghost someone or slowly distancing themselves during that is really scummy
I agree
7 monthS? Nah I'm out.
She's right and I agree but that don't mean it's realistic to expect or do.
She wasn't even In a real relationship.
Big ups to QueenzFlip for analyzing Mel’s feelings and having empathy to open up to her in private, salute!
Thats how you know its genuine
😂😂😂😂😂😂 YOU NIGGAS IS DIFFERENT
@@onemanarmy1873your name is "one man army", you niggas don't exist
😂 When the guys get da going, Mel just be sitting there like, 🙄 “these ninjas” lmao 😂
One of the best episodes ever ❤ much love from
Australia 🇦🇺
I absolutely feel for Mel and she's super strong. This was such a great episode and I'm glad to see that the crew are so supportive of her and each other. This is definitely a true gem of an episode. And I'm a solidified Melody!
Why do you feel for her?
@@blissdad13 Is this intended to be a legitimate question or is this meant to be one of those questions where you act like you're oblivious but the real intent is to spark a debate because you disagree with my statement? I'm not trying to be funny either.
@@kris6865 serious question.
What about her is strong?
She was shown to be rude and inconsiderate in this episode.. not bothering to send the wig back after joe went out of his way to send it to her.. not even bothering to respond. For weeks. Hella inconsiderate. Not bothering to respond regarding the braid connect either. That's clearly her get down.. Hella rude.. is that what you consider strong? Basically.. she asked for favors.. using her pretty privilege.. got them.. and ghosted.. as far as not responding.. then she talks about being upset.. that hee rich funny looking dude that she was in a long distance relationship with for a mere 7 months.. ghosted her. I bet he she was hella rude and inconsiderate to him as well. Id bet real money on that! Notice all she talked about was what she needed and what she was going through... She said nothing about what he needed... nothing..
And she has no idea how he experienced being with her. None.......
How about we hold everyone accountable for their own bs.. even if they are pretty.. she is exactly where her personal choices led her to be..
Oh yeah... and she didn't even use the gdamm wigs he sent her. Which is Hella high maintenance..many of her points showed this.... she is not low maintenance.. which is perfectly fine.. shes a baddie.old baddie.. but still a baddie...she gets to be high maintenance.. but it does show lack of true self awareness.. and women with low self awareness, get ghosted...somebody is gonna have to tell em theyre trash.. butnit aint gotta be me!!!.. just saying.. I enjoyed this episode. Bless.
Quite possibly one of the best JBP episodes ever. Such a great sense of family. Really appreciate Mel for being vulnerable
BESTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!
Ish and Joe fighting about fuckin each others work is hilarious
The dog just enjoying life is hilarious.
This conversation is amazing. Big ups to Flip for analyizing Mel's feeling and big ups to Ish for holding it down when it comes to the fellas pov.
Any guy that Mel brings up about dealing with, where they did something shady or corny, the guys argue her, about how they made her feel. Airplane guy, long distant guy, her date that she was late meeting, and the guy that bought her and her friends drinks. 🙄
If I told my friend something and they kept spinning it on me, I would just mute up ad well!
Yeaaa that’s facts
Flip is the only one that looks out for her in that regard
These dudes love picking on her
And it’s corny Af
This was deep. Y'all went to another level. I teared up a couple of times. 😢😊
The whole wig segment is hilarious and outta pocket😂😭😂😭😂
Mel just taught me so much thru her being able to have this convo with a room full of men & cameras I applaud her. We don’t always realize what beautiful woman think because u have to be around to long to figure out there flaws
Flip not only helped Mel, he helped me too! I’ve lived my WHOLE life detached. Due to family experiences. I have only lived to survive. At 50yrs old, I wanna FEEL it ALL. WOW, this was FIRE!
"But you're welcome..." "But you're yelling at me for it" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If the patreon is giving this, I'm about to subscribe. This episode is everything
I loved this episode!!! I love Mel for finally being vulnerable & being open to hearing her brothers out! I love flip for putting the foolishness aside & brotherly loving on his sis, during her time of need. & Shout out to the other guys for keeping it 💯 with sis! I loved this episode! 💝
I mean at this point I'm barely feeling their vacation 😂😭 keep these Patreon episodes coming please
The chihuahua calmly looking at Ish yelling 😂 🐶
Flip and Ish are the best conversationalists on this pod, they will ask the deep questions and have you talking
Shout out to Dasiy getting sick of Ish and Joe screaming and doing the walk off 😂😂😂. This was really good! May have to become a patreon member for more of this.
Big thanks to the JBP crew for the content 👊🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏾
This was a great conversation. It made me think about a lot and why I am becoming detached
I was not expecting all of this. This show was soooo good but triggering at the same time. I completely identify with Mel. Someone I was in love with left when I got Cancer. Flip really opened my eyes to my detachment style. Whew! This was therapeutic. REALLY good show!!
I’m really sitting in my room crying right now because I can relate to Mel so much
One of my favorite episodes this far! I personally needed this & can relate to Melissa on so many levels. This episode felt like family talkin 🖤
The ending is wild lmao 🤣 😂 this shit turned around at the end.
Sorry for your loss Mel. Mad love to you ❤️
Mel has become a minimalist and thats alright. If she was super ratchet and bougie or uppity then shed be praised.
Joe Budden should go on vacation more often. These patreon episodes been feeding us
Or maybe just sign up for it lol
@@antoinejimerson6303 no.
@@antoinejimerson6303that’s hate
Shyt I n subscribe to the Patreon😂
@@k-way8471😂😂Joe vc
This by far was one of the best conversations I've heard anywhere at anytime. My god
This is a GREAT adult conversation about love, care, respect and connection. About ideals and reality. Walking the fine line between genuine HOPE and practical reality o what a partner can deliver. Welcome to mating n dating n relating in the 21st cent. BTW Ish made a GREAT point about finding out what a connection is really made of when your back is against the wall. And love Flip's exposé of Mel n his relationship. That's rare. That ability to outline a platonic caring friendship.❤
This episode is special. Yall are truly necessary.
This episode was a whole therapy session 🔥
Like every Paetron episode damn near talking about Mel’s relationship issues 😂
I think it’s good for the female fans of her to see someone they admire is going through every day shit JUST like them- very relatable.
Also, for the guys that have been holding on to this fantasy about her and others like her in her industry, it shows them that shit stinks even if it looks sweet 😂
This EPISODE WAS FCKINN HILARIOUSSSS YOOO! This episode got me commenting, NO LIE!!! WAOOOWWWW From the opening of the pod to the Roast Central at the end! THIS ONE GOT IT!!
😢Not me here crying having a full blown therapy session with y’all…Mel describes textbook depression/anxiety/ptsd coping mechanisms & the boys may not understand those things fully (especially without therapy) but because Flip is such an emotional human, he naturally picks up on & applaud him for caring for his friends…& Mel & Ice being so brave enough to open up! I hope the cast genuinely is there for each other as friends because it’s hard to come by, especially when you’re older. Wishing all the best & healing & happiness❤️❤️❤️