I’m native Assyrian of Nineveh , North iraq. We still speak our Aramaic or “sureth” language. We are the Mesopotamian people and love our ancient history ! Hail king Ashur on our flag !
Forgive me if I create a faux-pas but is there a connection between a Syrian and an Assyrian? This question has always been lurking in the back of my head and I'd appreciate any thoughts you might provide toward an answer.
if you assume he's correct in what he's talking about. This is almost entirely opinion, not fact, like most archeology is. Those guys keep telling us we couldn't build the pyramids today for example...we very well could, we just can not justify the expense of doing it which is very different from not being able to do it...and that's just one example of hundreds when it comes to this field.
The real magic is turning such specific and erudite knowledge into raw material for an accessible and interesting video capable of capturing the attention of people around the world. Professor Finkel is the master wizard of pedagogy. A true Indiana Jones of ancient and modern words.
We can extrapolate further, still and say, ultimately, the "magic" with the utmost fidelity to the word, is, in fact, the technology ,which is definitely supernatural and just last millennium would have seemed otherworldly. Not to minimize Finkel or his awe inspiring lucubrations
@@ttacking_you have you read Tish & Pish (How to be of speakingness like Stephen Fry) by Stewart Ferris ? - thy words have stronger aroma than thy breath 😘
I never knew it was possible to make the study of ancient mesopotamian artifacts entertaining and funny while being incredibly informative. What a charming and lovely human 😁
I'm sad that I missed the live lecture but thankyou so much for putting it up on TH-cam. Professor Finkel is always an absolute pleasure to listen too. Thanks Professor!
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will. The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago（it was codified by European missionaries to 1601）： www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/ This is a map of Europe：commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.
@@sarahrosen4985 OH NO!!! Ok - here's the best way to keep up to date: log on to our website and you will find the dates for all of his upcoming events. Here's the link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures
@@sarahrosen4985 here's the website link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures This is THE best way to keep up-to-date. Another option is checking out the "Community" section of the TH-cam channel. We post links there as well.
Equally as divine as Dr Finkel & his presentation subject matter, is the reverent & intriguing community found here in the comments section of this video. Would that I could listen & engage with you all in person. I adore finding beautiful minds, melting in appreciation.
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will. The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago（it was codified by European missionaries to 1601）： www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/ This is a map of Europe：commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.
To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.
Not sure how I ended up being this many years old when I discovered Dr. Finkel but life is exponentially better with this profound knowledge conveyed so expertly.
This was fantastically educational AND entertaining. Some guys will put you to sleep with their droning, but Professor Finkel is fantastically engaging! I'm guessing if you listen to enough of his lectures about the ancient Mesopotamian civilization, that it would be possible to create a work of fiction based on the ancient culture, tradition, and their writings. It would be interesting to see what life and culture was like, brought to life on screen.
Dear Dr Finkel , I have reason to believe you may be a learned wizard yourself. Not of the evil Babylonian sorcerer type, but more of a dumbledoren sage with a heart of gold and stores of wisdom… You are an excellent communicator / teacher, thankyou for your work and sharing your wisdom !!!
Archeology as a dramatic performance: What joy! Thank you so much! If there were teachers everywhere who can do this, there would be no gaps of education anywhere.
I certainly note (and highly appreciate) the lack of infantalizing qualifiers and quasi-religious tribal mockery that has permeated modern discourse. Not even a hint of it. "Magic, crystals, rocks, astrology! Imagine!" Very refreshing to see that non-malfunctioning humans still exist to mentally connect historical incantations and ritualization with modern behavior.
Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and agains the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Fascinating as always. Your lecture sparked a memory for me. I was about eighteen when "The Exorcist" premiered. I read William Peter Blatty's book once I managed to find the courage to crawl from under my bed. In the book, the demon, "Blatty derived the character from Assyrian and Babylonian mythology, where the mythic Pazuzu was considered the king of the demons of the wind, and the son of the god Hanbi." I remember clearly thinking why would a being so powerful fear a couple of Catholic Priests?? It didn't make any sense. I'm sixty-seven today and it still doesn't make sense. But it did make everyone a ton of money and scared the poo out of an entire generation 8-) Something I'm sure good old Pazuzu would take pride in. I get it now. Father Merrin skipped too many Akkadian language classes! 8-D
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will. The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago（it was codified by European missionaries to 1601）： www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/ This is a map of Europe：commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
I suspect that a lot of modern people would recognize the image of the mass produced protective figurines as being angelic in outline, and it makes me wonder at any cultural connections between these and concepts like the Hellenistic guardian daimon and the later guardian angel. I think it would be absolutely fascinating to trace these lines of cultural influence and see what people have done with the idea over time.
angels are derived from assyrian cherubs, so i'm sure this isn't a wild stretch. pretty sure sumerians had a flood myth as well, take that as you will.
I’m so glad scholars are talking about such an essential part of our ancestors culture, magic. I try to do my part by trying to explain Mesoamerican magic. Thank you.
We should understand the mouth expelling and also all the ears listening but not with bended knees like our ancestors and their smiling helplesness with trembling fingers and eyes shut. .. Remembering the old woman Rigelceva babica, die Rigelc Oma: URAH JE DEVET, URAH NI DEVET... im Dorf des Banus, Banja Vas an der Roemerstrasze zur Draufaehre an der Mündung der Bela hinunter....
A Romanian incantation I remember from my grandmother, against "evil eye" (in popular belief, "evil eye" is inflicted by a random admirer, when the admirer is looking/stare at, and liking someone too much, this will make the admired person sick, give headaches to the admired, etc). My grandma was saying this incantation three times, fast pieced and in a whispered low voice, almost unintelligible to the enchanted: Ieși deochi dintre ochi, Din gene, din sprâncene, Din boierignimi, din bojogi, din ficați, De unde cocoș nu cântă, Fată mare nu calcă, Sa rămână [insert the name of the enchanted person here] luminat(ă), curat(ă), Ca de Maica Precista lăsat(ă). Ptiu, ptiu, ptiu! ----------------------------------------- In translation: Get away evil eye, From eyelashes, from eyebrows, From lungs, from liver, From where no rooster sings, And no virgin walks, So [insert person name here] to remain sainted and clean, As if would be from the Virgin Mary. Ptiu, ptiu, ptiu! (onomatopoeic sound mimicking spitting) :o)
A'udhu bi kalimat-Allah il-tammah min kulli shaytanin wa hammah wa min kulli 'aynin lammah" Meaning: I seek refuge in the perfect words of Allah from every demonic entity, poisonous reptile and from every envious evil eye.
Possibly worthy of mention is how the exact depiction of the dog standing up beside the character at @49:29 is a perfect depiction of the dog found in a familiar firestarter from the times of the Kievan Rus spanning from about 900-1390's CE, if not (earlier).
Dr. Finkel if youre reading this thank you very much for your hard work and dedication in your passion. Mesopotamian history is very important for many different religions and cultures. Theres no doubt it is valuable so thank you for everything you've contributed to.
Woooow so cool!!! In Farsi we still use that same language about a worm eating your tooth!!! for example if a child is eating too much candy we would say stop it or worms will eat your teeth! Or if you have a bad tooth and your in pain and someone asks what's wrong? you say worm ate my tooth:)) this is so cool!!!
Making ancient history sexy and intriguing as always. Be thankful for people who breathe life into such topics. It takes effort to compile and humanize lectures on these topics. Make them palatable to you and I. People like this make organic chemistry, electrical engineering, and mathematics, again sexy. Wax poetic about these people. Share them with people who do/don't deserve them. You never know who could be touched.
Whilst a child I slogged through these on my own but didn’t continue,but if I had Prof.Finkel online or as my teacher, I’d have finished as an Assyriologist instead of a generalist.
Dr Finkel, thank you for wonderful overview. I hope that you will cover Babylonian Prayer/Demon Bowls/Traps, which had an exorcistic incantation inside and were buried upside-down under doorways and the quoins of houses. It appears that they needed renewal, but it was risky to remove them, so sometimes they ended up stacked together.
Professor Irving the White! :) Nice to have another lecture :) I wonder if it would be possible to hear about lilitu some day, and whether or not lilitu underwent a change after the change of the focus from early to later period. :)
I remember reading that last bit about the worm when I was 13 - I think it had just been translated, which shows my age. Marvelously brought to life with Finkel's reading!
Great information. I am a major fan history and love to learn, but definitely no scholar. To me it’s fascinating to think of the beliefs and experiences of these people to lead to to such an interesting view of the supernatural.
ive missed your videos an awful lot. i still think you need to challenge more people to a game of ur. and any one i share your ark video with doesn't want to converse with me any longer.😅 i hope you keep going for as long as you can sir, thank you professor irving.
If your lexicon is deficit, or if you aren't paying enough attention, you might think this was was dry, boring lecture. NO SUCH THING! Dr. Finkel clearly enjoyed himself, and spends almost as much time cracking wise as he does dispensing knowledge. So enjoyable.
I’m spending this week at the British Museum & I’m all disappointed when I leave without having spotted The Resident Museum Wizard between the exhibits…
This is very interesting, and even more so as a Hebrew speaker - I think I just found out the sources for several words in my own language! Ashaf n. (Ashipu) - wizard Kishuf n. (Kashipu) - spell, witchcraft Lisrof/Saraf v. (Shurpu) - to burn (btw - Saraf n. can also mean Seraphim) Liklot/Kalu v. (Maqlu) - to roast, e.g. coffee or nuts
I would like to address the "goat like" figure. The tail is longish and down pointing. Goats carry their tales perpendicular to their spines. Sheep's tails hang down. Zackel sheep had horns like that in the twisted V formation. Few Zackel derived breeds still exist but the Racka sheep from Hungary do and have these impressive horns. Not sure if this will cause any eureka moment. Just thought it might be important if this was a sheep or a goat since they traditionally represent different ideas in the Middle East region.
Dr. Irving Finkel, curator at the British Museum of Art in London, one of the greatest specialists in Mesopotamian/ Sumerian Civilization pointed out (as translated from many clay tablets) “demons in Mesopotamia had no heart”. What an interesting analogy to contemporary expression. When we describe loveless person, in the same words, a.k.a. heartless 😮 Wow 😮 Eureka 🎉 #Bogoslowsky 🦁🤴
Meme-la-menu "Any evil at all." 'The depiction of a person in the moment, without attempting to rationalize them.' 'To demonize someone.' Question) What is wrong with practicing magic? Reasoning) To practice means to get good at something. To practice a skill is to master a skill. To master a class there must be tests in that class. In order to have tests there must be test-subjects. To master a class there must be many tests, therefore many test-subjects. In magic (definition. The casting out of a demon) the test subjects are demons. Answer) The practicing or mastering of magic on demons, requires the practicing or testing of magic on people, only if the magician is a over zelouse student or a megalomaniac.
I’m native Assyrian of Nineveh , North iraq. We still speak our Aramaic or “sureth” language. We are the Mesopotamian people and love our ancient history ! Hail king Ashur on our flag !
My best friend is half Assyrian. There's a lot of them in Chicago. Your guys flag is really cool
@@dreamersdisease2481 yes true ! a large population in Chicago, Arizona, Cali !
Forgive me if I create a faux-pas but is there a connection between a Syrian and an Assyrian? This question has always been lurking in the back of my head and I'd appreciate any thoughts you might provide toward an answer.
Long may your people thrive!
Dr. Finkel is my favourite wizard
Irving the white
Perfection
I have no idea who he is but yes.
So say we all
I feel like at any moment he's about to interrupt himself, look me right in the eye and ask if I'd like a cup of tea.
When He leans in and whispers like it’s a secret just between us….. I feel so special.
You're special all right...
Prof Finkel is a genius when it comes to explaining Mesopotamian culture. Thank you for this wonderful lecture.
I've always got time for some Finkel!
if you assume he's correct in what he's talking about. This is almost entirely opinion, not fact, like most archeology is. Those guys keep telling us we couldn't build the pyramids today for example...we very well could, we just can not justify the expense of doing it which is very different from not being able to do it...and that's just one example of hundreds when it comes to this field.
They aren't successful unless the masses are superstitious...
So, it's time for the masses to wakeup to the propaganda of false magic...
FUN FACT: Dr. Irving Finkle was born and grew up in Uruk. Over 6000 years ago. This is why they keep him in the British Museum.
@@BrettonFerguson I'd suspected something like that was the case!
The real magic is turning such specific and erudite knowledge into raw material for an accessible and interesting video capable of capturing the attention of people around the world. Professor Finkel is the master wizard of pedagogy. A true Indiana Jones of ancient and modern words.
So beautifully said. One 🎟️ ticket to dinner & conversation for you sir.
He's not been close to the SAS. I have. My subject's the birth of the Renaissance.
We can extrapolate further, still and say, ultimately, the "magic" with the utmost fidelity to the word, is, in fact, the technology ,which is definitely supernatural and just last millennium would have seemed otherworldly. Not to minimize Finkel or his awe inspiring lucubrations
@@ttacking_you have you read Tish & Pish (How to be of speakingness like Stephen Fry) by Stewart Ferris ? - thy words have stronger aroma than thy breath 😘
@@malaikamillions Is that a laudation or deprecation ?
I never knew it was possible to make the study of ancient mesopotamian artifacts entertaining and funny while being incredibly informative. What a charming and lovely human 😁
Well said!
That's why we're here!
Irving Finkel is one of those people who can't be replaced and whose contribution to their field of research will outlive them.
Finkel is a powerful magician able to dispel the demons ignorance with a beautiful voice.
he exorcizes the demon of idiocy with great force and determination.
He’s the type of wizard who doesn’t even need to use spells and incantations, just persuassion alone is enough.
@@nothisispatrick4644 Our minds and souls are enlighten at his mere presence
God y’all really want to hook up with him that bad huh
It's a true privilege to be able to listen to him and to take part of his exceptional knowledge.
Dr. Finkel has a wonderfully dramatic lighting setup for this topic; he must be protected at all costs as a global treasure.
I'm sad that I missed the live lecture but thankyou so much for putting it up on TH-cam. Professor Finkel is always an absolute pleasure to listen too. Thanks Professor!
log on to our website for all the dates for his upcoming pieces. Here's the link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures
Dr. Finkel's next TH-cam live event is Sunday June 11 at 3pm CST! Looking forward to seeing you there!
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will.
The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago（it was codified by European missionaries to 1601）：
www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/
This is a map of Europe：commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
@@beamazed1162I'd recommend you make an appointment to check for Schizophrenia.
👋👋👋@@beamazed1162
Irving Finkel is a global treasure
It's impossible to learn enough about this culture and time period in one lifetime. Thanks for breaking it down for us Dr.
So glad you enjoyed it.
If everyone had Dr. Finkel as a teacher we would all wiser for it.
First of three new lectures? We are truly blessed
To keep up to date on future events, check our website by using this link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures
You can also check the "Community" section of the channel where we post links as well.
Prof Finkel is a world treasure.
I missed the live, so now I have to turn on alerts for this channel. I never want to miss another Irving Finkel lecture.
I have alerts on and still didn't get one. :-(
you have to book through eventbright. You get a link in your email :)
@@damaracarpenter8316 but how do we get notifications that there is an event so we can go to Eventbrite to register?
@@sarahrosen4985 OH NO!!! Ok - here's the best way to keep up to date: log on to our website and you will find the dates for all of his upcoming events. Here's the link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures
@@sarahrosen4985 here's the website link: www.archaeologynow.org/zoom-lectures
This is THE best way to keep up-to-date.
Another option is checking out the "Community" section of the TH-cam channel. We post links there as well.
I love it when Dumbledore explains arcane magic.
I damn need Dr. Finkle to do a series on Gilgamesh and all its ties to Mesopotamian history
Now THAT is an amazing idea! We're putting it into the hopper!
@@ArchaeologyNow Has this happened yet? Please.
We are all so lucky to have such amazing Akkadian scholars making accessible such important ancient knowledge.
Irving Finkel is my favorite. He has such a passion.
Always love Finkel's lectures. Like a lovely raspberry truffle for the brain.
With a raspberry liqueur filling, obvs
😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
I see a lot of people are familiar with his work. Would you know where to find the largest compilation of his lectures?
@@Wakaflockaflanki'd like to know as well
Delicious
I adore Archchancellor Ridcully's Lectures, they're informative beyond the subject and keep you awake in the most delightful of manners.
Equally as divine as Dr Finkel & his presentation subject matter, is the reverent & intriguing community found here in the comments section of this video. Would that I could listen & engage with you all in person. I adore finding beautiful minds, melting in appreciation.
Nothing more educational and also entertaining than listening to my favourite Jedi Master....😊
I absolutely love listening to this man. If my tutors were as enthusiastic has he is I'd never would have wagged school.
I love hearing his story telling using these facts. If only all teachers were like this.
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will.
The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago（it was codified by European missionaries to 1601）：
www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/
This is a map of Europe：commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
Miracles of Symbols!
Depicted in all the religious scripts and all over every civilization from man day one on the Earth.
By Nura KC Nigeria 🇳🇬🥂
Dr Finkel reminds me of Gandalf. I love the way he makes his lectures so entertaining.
Listened to his Presentation “LIVE” earlier today and now Again ! Yes, It just so happens that I’m a Fan ❗️
3 new lectures from Dr. Finkel! Hurrah!
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Thank you, Dr. Finkel
I appreciate the efforts you put fourth to educate us heathens.
Yes, Dr Finkel! Sad I missed the Live. Watching now! He's the best!
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Not sure how I ended up being this many years old when I discovered Dr. Finkel but life is exponentially better with this profound knowledge conveyed so expertly.
This was fantastically educational AND entertaining. Some guys will put you to sleep with their droning, but Professor Finkel is fantastically engaging! I'm guessing if you listen to enough of his lectures about the ancient Mesopotamian civilization, that it would be possible to create a work of fiction based on the ancient culture, tradition, and their writings.
It would be interesting to see what life and culture was like, brought to life on screen.
I love this man.
Dear Dr Finkel , I have reason to believe you may be a learned wizard yourself. Not of the evil Babylonian sorcerer type, but more of a dumbledoren sage with a heart of gold and stores of wisdom… You are an excellent communicator / teacher, thankyou for your work and sharing your wisdom !!!
the first history lesson that entranced me in grade school was on the Sumerians and Mesopotamia - love this presentation, thank you from canada 🍁
Me, too...and also in Canada!😀👋
I love listening and learning from Dr. Irving Finkel. If i see an upload with him, i must watch. Thankyou Dr. Irving Finkel for sharing your knowlage.
Dr Finkel is just the bomb.. period. I love listening to him.
Thank you Professor Finkel for enlighten me immensely on ancient Mesopotamia.
Who is this man? He’s so wonderful. I could listen to him for hours.
I am greatly comforted to now know that Pazuzu is on our side
When he explains, I actually understand.
Archeology as a dramatic performance: What joy! Thank you so much! If there were teachers everywhere who can do this, there would be no gaps of education anywhere.
I certainly note (and highly appreciate) the lack of infantalizing qualifiers and quasi-religious tribal mockery that has permeated modern discourse. Not even a hint of it. "Magic, crystals, rocks, astrology! Imagine!" Very refreshing to see that non-malfunctioning humans still exist to mentally connect historical incantations and ritualization with modern behavior.
Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and agains the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
Thank you Dr Finkel, you are a guardian angel.
I would give anything to visit this man and have tea and chat about history! My favorite gent!!
Fascinating as always. Your lecture sparked a memory for me. I was about eighteen when "The Exorcist" premiered. I read William Peter Blatty's book once I managed to find the courage to crawl from under my bed. In the book, the demon, "Blatty derived the character from Assyrian and Babylonian mythology, where the mythic Pazuzu was considered the king of the demons of the wind, and the son of the god Hanbi." I remember clearly thinking why would a being so powerful fear a couple of Catholic Priests?? It didn't make any sense. I'm sixty-seven today and it still doesn't make sense. But it did make everyone a ton of money and scared the poo out of an entire generation 8-) Something I'm sure good old Pazuzu would take pride in. I get it now. Father Merrin skipped too many Akkadian language classes! 8-D
Fantastic lectures from our beloved Dr. Finkel.
The world quite needs more men with minds like his.
Brilliant as always, Prof Finkel! Your lectures are always not only fascinating but also wildly entertaining. Cheers!
1. There are not a lot of bronzes unearthed in Egypt. The latest archeology proves that they were built by construction workers, not slaves. Slaves can eat high-quality beef and can be buried near the pyramids. 2. There is no history of bronze wares in Europe, only a very small amount of bronze is fished out of the water or bought from the antique market, so it is impossible to measure carbon 14 (compared with Sanxingdui in China to see what bronze wares can be measured by carbon 14) 3. There is no such thing in Europe Astronomical calendar (there are many observatory sites in China, there are no such sites in Europe, and it takes hundreds or thousands of years of continuous observation, calculation, and accumulation to have a calendar) 4. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, and China has unified weights and measures for more than 2,000 years. Many instruments related to measurement have been unearthed in China. There is no unified weights and measures in Europe, so where does advanced arithmetic come from? History cannot be recorded until there has been no change for thousands of years. For the above points, can anyone overthrow it? If it cannot be overthrown, then ancient Babylon (someone obtained a cuneiform dictionary and translated clay tablets?), ancient Egypt, and ancient Greece are all false. Ancient Rome was a very small place not a great empire, let alone a civilization. If you look at the technology of the Song Dynasty in China and the Sanxingdui site, you will know the reason. Note that the first steam engine-driven car was also in China, but it is a pity that the Ming Dynasty, the creator of civilization, was stolen by barbarian Manchus and European missionaries, and rewritten the real history. 6. If Babylonian civilization is as great as described in textbooks, why is writing still written on clay tablets? Why not use noble sheepskin? 7. There is no such a grammatical dictionary for cuneiform, which can allow ordinary people to translate these clay tablets into modern characters. If there is no such dictionary, then they can make fakes at will.
The ancient nautical chart of ancient Egypt is marked as Babylon, which is the map of China 600 years ago（it was codified by European missionaries to 1601）：
www.loc.gov/item/2010585650/
This is a map of Europe：commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geographia_by_Ptolemy,_Aphricae_Tabula_III,_1540_Basel_edition_-_Maps_of_Africa_-_Robert_C._Williams_Paper_Museum_-_DSC00625.JPG
The World is such a better place for having Prof Finkle in it.
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Mr Finkel, I could listen to you talk all day every day.
I suspect that a lot of modern people would recognize the image of the mass produced protective figurines as being angelic in outline, and it makes me wonder at any cultural connections between these and concepts like the Hellenistic guardian daimon and the later guardian angel. I think it would be absolutely fascinating to trace these lines of cultural influence and see what people have done with the idea over time.
angels are derived from assyrian cherubs, so i'm sure this isn't a wild stretch. pretty sure sumerians had a flood myth as well, take that as you will.
I’m so glad scholars are talking about such an essential part of our ancestors culture, magic. I try to do my part by trying to explain Mesoamerican magic. Thank you.
We should understand the mouth expelling and also all the ears listening but not with bended knees like our ancestors and their smiling helplesness with trembling fingers and eyes shut. .. Remembering the old woman Rigelceva babica, die Rigelc Oma: URAH JE DEVET, URAH NI DEVET... im Dorf des Banus, Banja Vas an der Roemerstrasze zur Draufaehre an der Mündung der Bela hinunter....
A Romanian incantation I remember from my grandmother, against "evil eye" (in popular belief, "evil eye" is inflicted by a random admirer, when the admirer is looking/stare at, and liking someone too much, this will make the admired person sick, give headaches to the admired, etc).
My grandma was saying this incantation three times, fast pieced and in a whispered low voice, almost unintelligible to the enchanted:
Ieși deochi dintre ochi,
Din gene, din sprâncene,
Din boierignimi, din bojogi, din ficați,
De unde cocoș nu cântă,
Fată mare nu calcă,
Sa rămână [insert the name of the enchanted person here] luminat(ă), curat(ă),
Ca de Maica Precista lăsat(ă).
Ptiu, ptiu, ptiu!
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In translation:
Get away evil eye,
From eyelashes, from eyebrows,
From lungs, from liver,
From where no rooster sings,
And no virgin walks,
So [insert person name here] to remain sainted and clean,
As if would be from the Virgin Mary.
Ptiu, ptiu, ptiu! (onomatopoeic sound mimicking spitting)
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That learning came from muslims even the spitting part we say after a verse against the devil
A'udhu bi kalimat-Allah il-tammah min kulli shaytanin wa hammah wa min kulli 'aynin lammah"
Meaning: I seek refuge in the perfect words of Allah from every demonic entity, poisonous reptile and from every envious evil eye.
I second the idea that The Exorcist is "most upsetting" and not worth watching. Another great lecture!
Dr. Finkel is a legend!
A most interesting lecture and as always Dr Finkel is a marvelous speaker.
Possibly worthy of mention is how the exact depiction of the dog standing up beside the character at @49:29 is a perfect depiction of the dog found in a familiar firestarter from the times of the Kievan Rus spanning from about 900-1390's CE, if not (earlier).
Dr. Finkel if youre reading this thank you very much for your hard work and dedication in your passion. Mesopotamian history is very important for many different religions and cultures. Theres no doubt it is valuable so thank you for everything you've contributed to.
Irvin Finkel is a Rockstar! He is the most important historian today.
Thank you for using black background like a pro. My respect doubled.
Thank you from a native Assyrian village in Iraq Dr. Irving
Woooow so cool!!! In Farsi we still use that same language about a worm eating your tooth!!! for example if a child is eating too much candy we would say stop it or worms will eat your teeth! Or if you have a bad tooth and your in pain and someone asks what's wrong? you say worm ate my tooth:)) this is so cool!!!
Niceee
Making ancient history sexy and intriguing as always.
Be thankful for people who breathe life into such topics. It takes effort to compile and humanize lectures on these topics. Make them palatable to you and I.
People like this make organic chemistry, electrical engineering, and mathematics, again sexy.
Wax poetic about these people. Share them with people who do/don't deserve them.
You never know who could be touched.
It would be nice to see a documentry on shared influences and philosophies of the Mesopotamians and other cultures.
Whilst a child I slogged through these on my own but didn’t continue,but if I had Prof.Finkel online or as my teacher, I’d have finished as an Assyriologist instead of a generalist.
What a treat to discover this !
Dr. Finkel lectures are my favorite unintentional ASMR.
Such an amazing scholar and communicator.
Discovered this video after a night out at the bar. Glad I did. Thank you! Very powerful visual material for my music work.
Well...spend a little more time on our channel! The weather is great!
Dr Finkel, thank you for wonderful overview. I hope that you will cover Babylonian Prayer/Demon Bowls/Traps, which had an exorcistic incantation inside and were buried upside-down under doorways and the quoins of houses. It appears that they needed renewal, but it was risky to remove them, so sometimes they ended up stacked together.
Professor Irving the White! :) Nice to have another lecture :) I wonder if it would be possible to hear about lilitu some day, and whether or not lilitu underwent a change after the change of the focus from early to later period. :)
I loved the lecture, Dr. Finkel!
I remember reading that last bit about the worm when I was 13 - I think it had just been translated, which shows my age. Marvelously brought to life with Finkel's reading!
This is brilliant . A great lecture thank you
Wikipedia mispelled Ashipu too guys. If you want to find it on there, you spell it Asipu. Another great video Dr. Finkel. You are my super hero...
Great information. I am a major fan history and love to learn, but definitely no scholar. To me it’s fascinating to think of the beliefs and experiences of these people to lead to to such an interesting view of the supernatural.
I loved the narration of the tooth extraction
ive missed your videos an awful lot. i still think you need to challenge more people to a game of ur. and any one i share your ark video with doesn't want to converse with me any longer.😅 i hope you keep going for as long as you can sir, thank you professor irving.
The first time I saw “space magic” in action I was in shock and awe. It has been impossible to turn away now the flame has been lit.
If your lexicon is deficit, or if you aren't paying enough attention, you might think this was was dry, boring lecture. NO SUCH THING! Dr. Finkel clearly enjoyed himself, and spends almost as much time cracking wise as he does dispensing knowledge. So enjoyable.
I think you mean "deficient".
I'm so glad he cleared up the reputation of Pazuzu
Great lecture Dr. Finkel.
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Dr. Finkel brightens my day, while speaking of Eeevil 😊
Something I knew nothing about! Wonderful!
At 16 I did my GCSE Textiles project on the art of ancient Mesopotamia. NO idea why, or where that idea came from.
I’m spending this week at the British Museum & I’m all disappointed when I leave without having spotted The Resident Museum Wizard between the exhibits…
This is very interesting, and even more so as a Hebrew speaker - I think I just found out the sources for several words in my own language!
Ashaf n. (Ashipu) - wizard
Kishuf n. (Kashipu) - spell, witchcraft
Lisrof/Saraf v. (Shurpu) - to burn (btw - Saraf n. can also mean Seraphim)
Liklot/Kalu v. (Maqlu) - to roast, e.g. coffee or nuts
I would like to address the "goat like" figure. The tail is longish and down pointing. Goats carry their tales perpendicular to their spines. Sheep's tails hang down. Zackel sheep had horns like that in the twisted V formation. Few Zackel derived breeds still exist but the Racka sheep from Hungary do and have these impressive horns. Not sure if this will cause any eureka moment. Just thought it might be important if this was a sheep or a goat since they traditionally represent different ideas in the Middle East region.
sounds worth noting to me
Dr. Irving Finkel, curator at the British Museum of Art in London, one of the greatest specialists in Mesopotamian/ Sumerian Civilization pointed out (as translated from many clay tablets) “demons in Mesopotamia had no heart”.
What an interesting analogy to contemporary expression. When we describe loveless person, in the same words, a.k.a. heartless 😮
Wow 😮
Eureka 🎉
#Bogoslowsky 🦁🤴
Dr. Finkel is the grandfather I never had
Thanks for transporting us to the past Finkel.
Meme-la-menu
"Any evil at all."
'The depiction of a person in the moment, without attempting to rationalize them.'
'To demonize someone.'
Question)
What is wrong with practicing magic?
Reasoning)
To practice means to get good at something.
To practice a skill is to master a skill.
To master a class there must be tests in that class.
In order to have tests there must be test-subjects.
To master a class there must be many tests, therefore many test-subjects.
In magic (definition. The casting out of a demon) the test subjects are demons.
Answer)
The practicing or mastering of magic on demons, requires the practicing or testing of magic on people, only if the magician is a over zelouse student or a megalomaniac.
My dagger gets to go out on more than just a Saturday night. 😮
It's so great to learn from Gandalf.
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