Why this is F1 2024’s most controversial car

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  • What looks likely to be F1’s most controversial car of 2024 has been launched with the reveal of Red Bull’s rebranded RB team’s wonderfully titled VCARB 01.
    Whether it’s the new name, the new colours, or the new closer Red Bull collaboration, this team has attracted plenty of attention over the winter and that’s not going to change once its 2024 car hits the track.
    While the driver line-up of Daniel Ricciardo and Yuki Tsunoda is a familiar one having finished last season as team-mates, that’s about as far as the continuity goes for the team formerly known as AlphaTauri formerly known as Toro Rosso.
    Closer ties to the main Red Bull team are the source of obvious grievance among rival teams with McLaren by far and away the most vocal so far, but we expect the complaints to only increase in volume if this car achieves what Red Bull hopes it will.
    0:00 Why this is F1 2024's most controversial car
    1:48 The RB19 inspiration
    4:02 More 'Red Bull 2' than ever
    6:25 Why that is so controversial
    8:43 Why the identity is so controversial
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  • @WeAreTheRace
    @WeAreTheRace  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

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    • @djoetma
      @djoetma 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Start doing some real journalism again, and I'm more than happy to sign up for some proper F1 coverage instead of WTF1-esk BS that you lot have been making over the past year. It's fine you want an entertainment branch and that you bought them (and understandable that the one guy who know a lot about everything racing (Dre Harrison) was laid off), but 'The Race' with all these former Autosport people and I'm sure others, should be able to make content racing fans can actually learn from.

    • @_LUMBAGO_
      @_LUMBAGO_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No

    • @blijvendvertrek
      @blijvendvertrek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@djoetma If you're not learning anything from their podcasts, 'Bring Back V10s' to name one, I'd be surprised. And anything with Mark Hughes in it has a seal of quality by default, IMO.

    • @blijvendvertrek
      @blijvendvertrek 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And how could I go about doing that when I don't have a credit card?

    • @zefro3
      @zefro3 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊​@@djoetma

  • @MrZenzio
    @MrZenzio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1302

    I guess by the end of the season we'll see if they are low-carb or high-carb.

    • @jamie_michelson
      @jamie_michelson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      This needs to be pinned 😂

    • @matthewbarber13
      @matthewbarber13 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I see what you did there 🤣

    • @jkliao6486
      @jkliao6486 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Clearly not V-powered, that's for sure

    • @Developer_33
      @Developer_33 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s the lamest thing I’ve read all day. What are you 10?

    • @cozmic2225
      @cozmic2225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They might be overdrawn

  • @Space_Reptile
    @Space_Reptile 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +617

    it has paint
    scary and controversial for all the teams that revealed liveries so far

    • @gergogorgicze2830
      @gergogorgicze2830 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      not necessarily, it just means they are comfortably below the minimum weight, at the start of the 2022 regulations redbull was significantly overweight, while alfa romeo was almost at minumum. Didnt really reflect their performance did it?

    • @lukasausen
      @lukasausen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@gergogorgicze2830 Redbull is not only racing for wins but also to propagate its brand, they wont remove all their paint, same for alpha tauri, they are a marketing team for visa so its obvious they would have a flanboyant livery to showcase their sponsor.

    • @pavise6333
      @pavise6333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Painting the car should be illegal at this point

    • @arquiJ
      @arquiJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@pavise6333 paint? You innocent young padawan

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let's see how much of it will remain once they hit the first race

  • @DoomDutch
    @DoomDutch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +489

    I already wanted to call "VCARB RB" Toro Rosso, their livery makes me feel vindicated for wanting to do so.

    • @ImreBertalan86
      @ImreBertalan86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I'm still gonna call it Minardi 😁

    • @DoomDutch
      @DoomDutch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ImreBertalan86 Haha, also valid!

    • @jarnorantanen6184
      @jarnorantanen6184 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      wtf is vcarb rb? it is just vcarb

    • @rapidshot3033
      @rapidshot3033 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      CARB

    • @jarnorantanen6184
      @jarnorantanen6184 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that is what i said@@rapidshot3033

  • @ChrisTolf
    @ChrisTolf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    F1 needs to make a 70% paint rule.

    • @C.I...
      @C.I... 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *on carbon fibre parts

    • @GAMER_PUNK247
      @GAMER_PUNK247 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no more like 90% or 100%

  • @TheRaienryuu
    @TheRaienryuu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    Just remember that the only reason this alternative RB team exists is because years ago F1 itself basically begged RB to buy the team. You can't be surprised that a company is just trying to make the best out of it.

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      At this point though its sorta ridiculous. Even more so when Andretti wants to join.

    • @TheRaienryuu
      @TheRaienryuu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@0Synergy I'd love to see them buy out RB for the team and have Andretti take that place. But that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@0SynergyIt has nothing to do with Andretti. Andretti wants to be in as a new team. They don’t even WANT to buy a team.

    • @0Synergy
      @0Synergy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TheRaienryuu I'm talking about the fact that Redbull owns two teams not if Andretti should buy or not, its retarded that a team can have effectively 4 cars and then FOM denies another team entry.

    • @hyperautos14
      @hyperautos14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redlingstein im pretty sure andretti expressed interesting in buying into F1 at some point but that was shot down by F1 management and also no teams wanted to sell, so andretti was forced to go the new team route and got rejected as we all know

  • @thelync228
    @thelync228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +603

    Why do we keep forgetting that F1 begged Red Bull to buy the team back in the day

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reddit circlejerks are infecting YT channels.

    • @AdminAbuse
      @AdminAbuse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

      Yep, they begged Mateschitz but fans and press like to glance over that fact

    • @givemeabreak8784
      @givemeabreak8784 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

      And most of the teams are copying the Red Bull concept but they don't like it if the sister team is copying too 😂😂

    • @dahorn100011
      @dahorn100011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      ​@@AdminAbusethat's not the controversy. The controversy is red bull now being a team of 4 cars, and now has way more wind tunnel time. More than any other team on the grid.

    • @swl0323
      @swl0323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      British media propaganda to shoot Red Bull because they snatch the championship from their favourite driver Hamilton.. remember the point. Anything happen to Red Bull is controversy.. anything happen to Mercedes is reasonable. Best example is full carbon fibre to Mercedes last few years not an issue and suddenly this year become issues. Typical The Race.. first day know them?

  • @Joker210SA
    @Joker210SA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Finally a car without a pre dominant black livery. This season going to be tough to follow with all the cars having similar dark accents

    • @nickmildon6348
      @nickmildon6348 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Maybe Mercedes will go back to silver? I really hope so

    • @Joker210SA
      @Joker210SA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@nickmildon6348 lol jus a silver stripe would be hilarious, or go back to that all black livery from a few yrs ago

    • @Joker210SA
      @Joker210SA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nickmildon6348 dude omg I called it, black livery with a silver stripe 😄 😆 wtf

  • @SoloSailing77
    @SoloSailing77 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

    Teams upset about copying the RB19, better look at their own cars again. Seems everyone are working off the RB design!

    • @user-ie8vk6xy9k
      @user-ie8vk6xy9k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      VCARB is owned by
      Red bull they have the rights too

    • @Hamisxa
      @Hamisxa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@user-ie8vk6xy9k F1 is regulated mate. RBR and RB would be DQd from the Championship if shared confidential info or data

    • @user-ie8vk6xy9k
      @user-ie8vk6xy9k 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thx @@Hamisxa

    • @BrianPhilipDN
      @BrianPhilipDN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but they have all the parts for better correlation

  • @Ranand27
    @Ranand27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Why people started bothering about this team, this team has been exist from 2006. When the others team copying redbull there's no problem but when this team trying to improve there's a lot of hates.

  • @youmy001
    @youmy001 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I call the team "The team formerly knows as Minardi"

  • @gpaje
    @gpaje 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    Its identity is Torro Rosso, even when Alpha Tauri. Hence the throwback colors.

    • @therealquaid1694
      @therealquaid1694 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hopefully Ricardo can sell enough t-shirts to get people used to the new name.

    • @SumbluddyIdiut
      @SumbluddyIdiut 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toro Rosso is literally Red Bull in Italian.

    • @skyhigh6089
      @skyhigh6089 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How difficult is it to spell "Toro"?

    • @gpaje
      @gpaje 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @skyhigh6089 too difficult apparently, though this is a comment section on youtube, does it really matter, do you have to be such a tool about it?

    • @SumbluddyIdiut
      @SumbluddyIdiut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Toro Rosso is Italian for Red Bull.
      Alpha Tauri (ą Tauri) is the red giant star Aldebaran, the brightest star in the constellation of Taurus (Bull).. Hence, Red Bull.
      Their identity has not changed. It has always referred to Red Bull.

  • @p77ws
    @p77ws 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I have been a supporter of this team since Ricciardo took the seat, and I had a feeling that move was part of something way more important. As for the car, I don't have any doubt it will be a serious contender. I am really looking forward to seeing what it can do on track. Exciting times

    • @markw6586
      @markw6586 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Agree.

    • @YosemiteCam
      @YosemiteCam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and if it's very competitive then may take points of Ferrari and co... however if it's too competitive, we know they'll at least move over to let their parent/paymaster red bull cars through!

    • @p77ws
      @p77ws 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YosemiteCam yes, Very good point. I was 100% was on the same train of thought. However, I am hopeful they would just let it play out in that scenario - time will tell

  • @SayoRacing97
    @SayoRacing97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I do actually love this livery
    It feels like a callback to the Toro Rosso liveries from 2017-2019

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    F1 team companies can own two teams, but they refuse to let Andretti in.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Learn abt how and why Red Bull COMPANY has 2 separate teams, ORACLE RED BULL RACING and VISA CASH APP RB, before commenting. It has NOTHING to do with Andretti. Andretti wants in as a new team. The current 10 teams have been in F1 for YEARS. They deserve to be there.

    • @deezynar
      @deezynar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Redlingstein
      You sound touchy about this.

    • @contentsritual8334
      @contentsritual8334 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redlingstein didnt andretti also try to buy into any team but got rejected?

  • @skyeroy29
    @skyeroy29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    i love the sidepods, looks sleek and aggressive. i wonder if Mercedes just put the zero/slim pods in the wrong orientation

  • @Lastname6955
    @Lastname6955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

    I don't think you guys have a leg to stand on in terms of criticising the name when you're sponsored by Stake

    • @jakem5039
      @jakem5039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And they are also sponsored by Aramco

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Sure but they didn't rename themselves Stake the Race.

    • @alexnowis2468
      @alexnowis2468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      The Race has paid advertisements as part of their videos, but I think your comment is unfair. The Race remains The Race, unlike RB & Stake, where the team name is sold to the highest bidder.

    • @4192362
      @4192362 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakem5039are they. should mention it on the tech show podcast

    • @cidiracing7481
      @cidiracing7481 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@alexnowis2468 Which applies to most teams. Ferrari, Williams and McLaren are the only ones that don't.

  • @NTG_XYZ
    @NTG_XYZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    Best livery on the grid this year🔥

    • @j.wdeveaux708
      @j.wdeveaux708 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      So far

    • @salim_abid_
      @salim_abid_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Could be

    • @tommywang8229
      @tommywang8229 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      So far. I still have high hopes for Ferrari and Aston

    • @rapidshot3033
      @rapidshot3033 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not all cars shown yet

    • @stu8758
      @stu8758 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Not hard when the others forgot to paint half their cars

  • @Batters56
    @Batters56 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I think those side pods/engine cover are clearly not simply copy of last years Red Bull. It looks more tightly packaged if anything.
    I’d actually look out for how similar to this the new Red Bull looks!

  • @bean3243
    @bean3243 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Nobody had issues with Haas basically taking everything they could from Ferrari but now it's a problem that VCARB is doing it. Honestly, I could care less, I want one more competitive team. McLaren can cry all they want.

  • @mateivlad4425
    @mateivlad4425 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    All the other teams are bitchin themselves with the non paint liveries.

  • @darrenlawlor1671
    @darrenlawlor1671 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Really hope Yuki ends up in and around the top 6 pack, just for the chaos 😂

  • @f.kieranfinney457
    @f.kieranfinney457 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s hardly the worst name in history. Look back at ‘70s teams if you want some real clunkers.
    For such a slick marketing firm it does seem rather lazy though.

  • @willjackson6522
    @willjackson6522 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    I’m assuming they did such a throwback livery in hopes that it would mitigate some of the onslaught of frustration fans have with the team, which is annoying because I love how it looks

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100%... I've never been this torn before....lol

    • @langbuddha2798
      @langbuddha2798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ShonnDayleeF1 are so funny, like you obviously care more about a name and paint job then you care about anything going on, I’m track 😂😂😂 go back to watch Drive to survive please😂 even the drives can’t stop talking shit about you “fans”

    • @PlaySA
      @PlaySA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      By far the best looking car revealed so far. Mainly the combination of the paint and the sidepods makes it look quite nice

    • @PlaySA
      @PlaySA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@langbuddha2798down, boy. down

    • @toyotaecw
      @toyotaecw 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s only controversial because VCARB RB is more likely to succeed than HAAS

  • @modernkennnern
    @modernkennnern 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I love how you've only mentioned their name in a single video since it was announced, despite talking about it in several 😂

    • @langbuddha2798
      @langbuddha2798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They mentioned the name like 6 times in the first 3 minutes of this video 😂😂😂 they are also trying to keep up their looks after talking that stake sponsor, that’s why they deleted the videos where they were trash talking stakes new team name😂😂😂 the basis is extremely obvious

    • @modernkennnern
      @modernkennnern 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@langbuddha2798 they said RB and "Red Bull's second team", neither of which are their name.
      They did in fact mention their name once in this video, but in a context in which they explicitly stated why they don't normally.

    • @langbuddha2798
      @langbuddha2798 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@modernkennnern not my fault you ant listen, 6 mentions in the first 3 mins of the video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @modernkennnern
      @modernkennnern 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@langbuddha2798I'm in no way pretending like I'm the best listener, but I find it hard to believe I missed it 6 times in 3 minutes while actively listening for it, but you never know 😅
      Could you link to a timestamp? 🫠

    • @modernkennnern
      @modernkennnern 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@langbuddha2798 I'm in no way saying I'm the best listener, but I rewatched the first 3 minutes, and I still couldn't hear a single instance of their name. The only time during the video they mentioned their name was at 9:02.

  • @GuacJuan
    @GuacJuan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Teams complain about Toro Rosso using the maximum parts allowed from Red Bull, but Haas use the maximum parts allowed from Ferrari so I don’t see the issue. Teams can cry all they want. McL, Ferrari, and Williams all had the money to buy Minardi in the early 00’s.

  • @KrystofM
    @KrystofM 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Tbh this vegas Livery looks really good. The best we've seen so far

  • @MikuFan3931
    @MikuFan3931 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    The car is still known as a Toro Rosso to real F1 fans.

    • @jarradchapman4271
      @jarradchapman4271 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Or a Minardi to the oldheads.

    • @AnonymousCaveman
      @AnonymousCaveman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was about to type that 😂​@@jarradchapman4271

    • @MikuFan3931
      @MikuFan3931 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jarradchapman4271 You’re right.

    • @PrefoX
      @PrefoX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "real"... no the team moves partly away from italy and who cares. RB wasnt always RB, do we call them Minardi yet? LIKE THE REAL F1 Fans? xD kids...

    • @Scientist-exe
      @Scientist-exe 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should have stuck with TR

  • @pavise6333
    @pavise6333 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    In the era of bare carbon, this team went against the norm by painting their car

    • @jamesormondroyd1009
      @jamesormondroyd1009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      that's because the only purpose this car serves is to be a glorified billboard

    • @goldenoodles6281
      @goldenoodles6281 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jamesormondroyd1009 can't argue with that at all

  • @sirgobbledygook
    @sirgobbledygook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    It's a bit rich of F1 to beg RB to buy Minardi when it was dying and now think about forcing them to sell when RB is reaping the benefits.
    If you have a prob with toro rosso then tighten the regulations of what you can buy from the makes team.

    • @aloelover6012
      @aloelover6012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uh no? F1 is not thinking of forcing Red Bull to sell the team? That's just angry fans who can't handle the existence of this team all of a sudden. Also, the FIA makes the regulations, not F1, god you really don't know anything and is heavily misinformed... go back to DTS.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good point. But it’s not F1 but jealous F1 fans who are crying abt Visa Cash App RB.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aloelover6012well said

    • @sirgobbledygook
      @sirgobbledygook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aloelover6012 uh okay great aloe lover! Yes F1 isn't asking RB to sell YET! The speculation was mentioned in the video so my opinion is IF F1 uses some shitty rule and does force RB to sell.
      Also every f1 fan and their grandma knows that F1 owned by liberty media doesn't control regulations, its the FIA. Their distinction has become even clearer since Masi and Andretti's entry bid. It was a casual comment... Didn't realise a killjoy would come after me for that. Sensible people would have understood what I meant.
      I used to watch during Schumacher and Barrichello days but I was a kid and didn't understand the rules. Started watching again since 2010 so I'm not a DTS fan but who made you the gate keeper? Probably you have nothing important going in your life and decided to be rude for no reason. It's Sunday, go to church and fix your life.

    • @sirgobbledygook
      @sirgobbledygook 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redlingstein yeah fair enough. Its mainly the fans but also team principals like Zak brown. I'm just afraid that F1 will cave eventually if Torro Rosso start getting podiums.

  • @ericmcmanus5179
    @ericmcmanus5179 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Torro Rosso literally translates to Red Bull. So why is everyone freaking about the second team using the red bull name now?

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly, well said

  • @crztank9298
    @crztank9298 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    It's about as close to the RB19 as Scott is to a journalist

    • @sej8806
      @sej8806 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nearer!

    • @98MTBiker
      @98MTBiker 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not a big fan of him but could you elaborate a bit please? Purely out of curiosity.

    • @3rdGenGuy
      @3rdGenGuy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@98MTBiker f1 journalism is horrible. it's 99% trash and rumors with no substance.

  • @eclypse1259
    @eclypse1259 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The gloss is delicious, compared to the matte look of the past AT car.

  • @oscartaylor7436
    @oscartaylor7436 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Great launch by RedBull! Can’t wait for the RedBull Pro Max launch

  • @DuxDrive
    @DuxDrive 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did you made the renders of the cars? Or got the livery?

  • @justice4g
    @justice4g 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    McLaren scared Daniel's going to get another win before Lando

  • @ericmcmanus5179
    @ericmcmanus5179 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The engine thing is a bit misleading. RB purposefully made TR use Honda to see how they worked before putting them into the main car. They wanted a test run of the new engines.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Correct. After the Renault engine failures, they needed to see how the Honda engines held up before putting them in the RBR cars yes.

    • @jayathranps1319
      @jayathranps1319 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a period where STR had different engines for three years in series.

  • @MythicalRhino97
    @MythicalRhino97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Atleast they’ve got a bit of a colour on the car

  • @ericmcmanus5179
    @ericmcmanus5179 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It always blows my mind that F1 teams will fire a key employee if the team feels they haven't been doing well enough, yet they replace them with a different guy that comes from a team that has been just as disappointing. Find new people if you want a fresh start. Don't just mix and match the same people like it's some "good ole boys" club no matter how poorly they do.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Makkies did work at Toro Rosso in the past….. he RETURNS to the team in fact but with a truck load more of EXPERIENCE and a different set of eyes than when he left. And Bayer is from FIA so he as CEO brings in a truck load of experience and fresh eyes. And the Technical Tremaine from Renault/Alpine has fresh eyes and a lot of technical experience.

    • @mciantar1999
      @mciantar1999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true

    • @ericmcmanus5179
      @ericmcmanus5179 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Redlingstein do you know how many people in F1 that have experience yet never won a single race in their entire career? Experience isn't the most important thing in F1. It's experience mixed with lots of talent.

  • @ken.wenzel
    @ken.wenzel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As whatever company is sponsoring Alfa Romeo or any of their other cars are referred to as Saubers, lets just go with Minardi for this team as a shortcut name, since that is the origin of the team in Italy.

  • @declanl6239
    @declanl6239 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The entire grid taking influence and design ideas/philosophy’s from the RB19, as well as 6/10 teams using some form of redbull/Mercedes/Ferrari parts. It makes zero sense to treat this any different from haas taking every possible part from Ferrari, the only real difference is alphatauri made a lot a lot of progress last year. I’m sure that will be forgotten and any progress they make will be made out to be due to the RB19 parts

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said, I’m glad to read comments like yours here.

  • @YUNGDRAYK
    @YUNGDRAYK 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    it’ll be interesting to see how daniel and Yuki deal with the traits of this car. We saw max destroy everyone but checo struggle. I wonder if we will see something similar in the Visa boys.

  • @User57655
    @User57655 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    8:54 Zach Ashley isn’t Global Head of Brand (which would suggest he is the functional ‘owner’ of the brand), he’s actually Global Head of Brand Partnerships (aka the person who brings to life and manages Cash App’s Brand Partnerships) which is a very different role.

    • @doodoodot
      @doodoodot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      noone cares

    • @cuy50
      @cuy50 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well regardless of his true title or role, he looks like a clown

  • @juvenalmachado7693
    @juvenalmachado7693 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im not a redbull fan but if they manage a 1,2,3,4 this year it'll be a lovely thing to see

    • @YosemiteCam
      @YosemiteCam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and we know which way round the four positions will be regardless of how competitive the red bull second team is

  • @cvayas.
    @cvayas. 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im just going to say it, I'll start calling the new AlphaTauri "VRB". Its easy and catchy.

    • @alaeriia01
      @alaeriia01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm calling them Toro Rosso or Minardi depending on how I feel at the time.

  • @Synystr7
    @Synystr7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The investigation into Horner sounds like someone got disciplined or fired and then they went to the press. "Too controlling"? Dude, he is the boss.

  • @pedroasif6844
    @pedroasif6844 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That livery reminds me of the Nestle Crunch wrapper.

  • @WouldWorkforWoodWork
    @WouldWorkforWoodWork 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, Toro Rosso means something... it's Italian for Red Bull...

  • @yodaddamilkman8422
    @yodaddamilkman8422 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I hope all the commentators this season refer to VCARB as Toro Rosso 😂

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They won’t and you know it. THEY show respect and call it RB as already mentioned in so many official F1 articles on the F1 site.

  • @ForeMoreGolf
    @ForeMoreGolf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Torro Rosso has returned in colour at least

  • @richardlindquist5936
    @richardlindquist5936 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imagine 20 actually competitive cars on the grid! What’s not to like?

  • @krdjmtc
    @krdjmtc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In a few years RB's next name change will be Re Bu

  • @bigmaryhelen
    @bigmaryhelen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LOL. The parts highlighted at 56 seconds as being from last year's RB are totally different...

  • @BadAssEngineering
    @BadAssEngineering 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    For me, they will always be Minardi

  • @simercury515
    @simercury515 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The whole point of their name is to make it as awkward as possible to drop "visa" when referring to the team; as well as improving the team marketability for "events" because it *is* an "RB" F1 car/team. Its basically just Red Bull showing why it is one of the top marketing corps in business. Its hard for me to see commentators not saying "RB Visa" well a race is running.

  • @slevingaius
    @slevingaius 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    What does Horner's misconduct allegations have to do with the launch of VisaBull launch?

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nothing, people nowadays can't be pressed to work harder it seems.
      I'm surprised we don't hear this from the germans at merc. Generally (pun intended), they are ruthless in overworking people 😂😂

    • @Secretlyanothername
      @Secretlyanothername 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because it's the same team that shares four cars.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SecretlyanothernameIts not. Its 2 different teams owned by Red Bull Company. Horner has nothing to do with Visa Cash App RB team. Horner is CEO and Teamboss of Oracle Red Bull Racing team. Maybe learn more in stead of repeating blatant false info.

  • @sterny7341
    @sterny7341 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    “11 teams would dilute the prize money too much” (Redbull literally has two teams and has no plans of selling)

    • @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo
      @elChirrinChirriondelDiablo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Remember when f1 were begging someone to buy minardi?

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Remember when F1 was struggling to expand and were desperate for teams?

    • @91mmafighter
      @91mmafighter 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They also apparently don't remember the pink Mercedes either which was way more controversial@@elChirrinChirriondelDiablo

    • @dahorn100011
      @dahorn100011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@91mmafighterStroll bought as much was permitted under the rules. RP fundamentally wasn't owned by the same entity as Mercedes. That's what the controversy is

    • @user-wy5xe6ht2m
      @user-wy5xe6ht2m 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤡

  • @bertjilk3456
    @bertjilk3456 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's nothing controversial about following the rules! It seems that RB wants to streamline costs after Deitrich Matesich died, so they're just taking the parts that are permitted and also increasing sponsorship for the second team. The car actually looks quite different to the RB19 when compared to some others (looking at YOU, Zac).
    Of course, if it was Lewis' team, I'm sure this channel would have a very different opinion...

  • @thomassosa65
    @thomassosa65 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    The timing (of the investigation) is NOT awkward, it was planned. If you can't beat them on the track, try another tactic.

    • @wesleywallace101
      @wesleywallace101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The investigation is internal lol...they're tryna beat themselves?

    • @groundedgaming
      @groundedgaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Timing of Lewis to Ferrari covering up Andretti getting blocked is much more believable than what you are saying.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Planned by whom?

  • @OCRay1
    @OCRay1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the colors. The visa logo not so much but obviously that’s part of the game

  • @Colevid19
    @Colevid19 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Loving those side pods

    • @jamesfossile9220
      @jamesfossile9220 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same they look so aggressive the way they point up. Whole car looks awesome from the paint, the gloss and the design of the pods and fins up front leading to the floor

  • @dtoften
    @dtoften 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So instead of F1 fans whining for Haas to sell to Andretti, why aren't they whining for Alpha/Toro to sell to Andretti?

  • @upamhandique8773
    @upamhandique8773 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Livery has an old school feel to it.

  • @aimanfitri0iv
    @aimanfitri0iv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    it looks definitely good and I believe it is the none carbon livery this time 😄👍

  • @stunimbus1543
    @stunimbus1543 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When I was young, I didn't realise John Players tobacco was the Lotus title sponsor - I thought the car was just a JPS.
    Title sponsorship doesn't seem like anything new.

    • @jyhan1q94
      @jyhan1q94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think everyone is missing a point.
      Lotus had 76 to 79 branded as John Player Special Mk I to IV. This looks similar to that.

  • @DonLee1980
    @DonLee1980 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mclaren, Aston Martin complain that RB's sister team has copied their older sister's team... Umm.. not like you guys haven't?

  • @seen48
    @seen48 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The side pod looks so different from the RB19? Maybe it’s just how shiny and bright it is? The new look is good and the throwback to a past livery rom Toro Roso. This name is quite ridiculous and going to be hard to hear during races.

  • @ajegelin
    @ajegelin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    How is a car 100% within the rules controversial?

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are LH fans so anything RBR or RB does is controversial to them…

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said

    • @dkeracing9325
      @dkeracing9325 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's because they consider it a potential threat. Unlike Haas.

    • @YosemiteCam
      @YosemiteCam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      are you asking seriously? if you are then I'll answer using soccer instead - imagine you have a person who owns a football team and then buys another team in the same league. that means he could start to potentially share things off field (facilities, electronic equipment, training routines, scouting reports), he could loan personnel (players, coaches, physios) to them (especially when playing your rivals), he could make sure that when his main team plays against his second team, his main team wins as they'll rest key players, etc - now for other teams who can't afford all that stuff, they'll say that amounts to an uncompetitive advantage - and they'd be correct, which is why it's banned.

    • @ajegelin
      @ajegelin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@YosemiteCam they’ve had a second team for 19 years it’s laughable that it’s a problem now

  • @Theo2482
    @Theo2482 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This car looks like a prophecy for what the Ferrari SF-24 will look like! 😅

    • @GameOver-nm2us
      @GameOver-nm2us 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what

    • @lore-lv2yo
      @lore-lv2yo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why?

    • @Theo2482
      @Theo2482 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lore-lv2yo RB inspired aero and SF-23 nose

  • @dethmane
    @dethmane 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Red Bull can have two teams, but Andretti isn't allowed to join the grid. Okay FiA, you keep doing you.

  • @JohnAbrahamsen
    @JohnAbrahamsen 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Toro Rosso was Minardi before. Which had history. Toro Rosso was always the 2nd red bull team.

  • @skiper7795
    @skiper7795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The car looks fantastic ngl

  • @ChrisJR1000
    @ChrisJR1000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i have to admit the livery looks🔥

    • @JohnWiku
      @JohnWiku 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dumpster on fire, that's what you mean 😂😂

    • @laughing5752
      @laughing5752 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JohnWikudisagree, however it's your opinion. You're allowed to be wrong

  • @matthewriley4935
    @matthewriley4935 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Toro Rosso literally means Red Bull in Italian just stick with that.

  • @mintberry6014
    @mintberry6014 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s interesting that teams like Visa RB cash app, HAAS and even Williams are allowed to be on the grid knowing full well that they will most likely never surpass the “main” team…. And Andretti was denied…. I think some teams were scared

  • @Jimmy_Moon
    @Jimmy_Moon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Why mention Christian during this content?
    It should be about the car rather than the drama.

  • @nchmusic99
    @nchmusic99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Stake F1 team should take notes on how to make a good looking livery like this

    • @Blue_Monkey
      @Blue_Monkey 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Formula 1 teams care about 1 thing, money. That also means good performance on track. If the paint has a lot black in it or not does not matter, as long as it is fast and the sponsors are well visible.

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stake is also great, it’s bold

  • @grahamtait8031
    @grahamtait8031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of a TWR Arrows - that was a good looking colour scheme.

  • @Xs2...
    @Xs2... 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is Stefano Domenicali there during the team launch ?

  • @nukers1234
    @nukers1234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What controvers? They just use the rules to the full, and are smart about it... Like everyone else is doing or should do.

  • @mta1864
    @mta1864 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Hilarious. They deny Andretti saying F1 doesn't need 11 teams. Turns out there's only really 9 teams, one with 4 cars.

    • @hjc7429
      @hjc7429 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True but at least alpha tauri was more competitive than haas. Haas needs to sell his team to Andretti

    • @JonathanNichollsjono
      @JonathanNichollsjono 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Andretti cars would just have been a moving chicanes. They would have only a good story to tell in DTS, nothing more.

  • @VemaReed
    @VemaReed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Graphic Designer I can say they botched the front wing (and quite visibly); from the front rendering the ''Cash App" logo on the the right side should've placed symmetrical - ie After the wording -, to match. The way it looks is like the whole front wing is ''skewed'' to one side. Just a thought.

  • @TheKingkingg
    @TheKingkingg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks awesome and good to see Honda clearly. What is controversial when haas, and before Aston Martin rebadged did similar and not same team, or what about drivers switching???

  • @AlexMitoMedia
    @AlexMitoMedia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    y’all are so unserious. unfollowing this youtube rag sheet

  • @swl0323
    @swl0323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    As expected, The Race find anyway to shoot Red Bull. When it happen to Mercedes, they keep quiet😂 Like all carbon fibre use by Mercedes last year, The Race no issue on it but this year suddenly become issue. Now all the internet talking about the good livery, The Race switch the attention to shoot Red Bull. Typical The Race.. still live at Abu Dhabi 2021 😂Remember the point for The Race, anything happen to Red Bull is controversy.. anything happen to Mercedes or Team Hamilton, all is logic 😂

    • @kingofcars369
      @kingofcars369 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bros point: the second the race criticizes red bull, it's got to do with 2021

    • @swl0323
      @swl0323 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Bro, u can check how many video they made just to shoot Racing Bull name.. and how many video they shoot Stake F1.. then u will know how much they hated Red Bull 😂

    • @Loudeboss
      @Loudeboss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed.. shit stirrers

    • @kingofcars369
      @kingofcars369 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@swl0323 maybe try scrolling down next time

    • @kingofcars369
      @kingofcars369 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@swl0323 and RB is pretty bad name anyways

  • @CT37BN
    @CT37BN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you call former Alpha Tauri to V-CARB it wouldn't sound corporate at all but more like another brand of Red Bull energy drink.

  • @nickj1663
    @nickj1663 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Silly name, but gorgeous livery! Lets just hope its fast

  • @Kyuubi840
    @Kyuubi840 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I appreciate that you call this team Arby. I wonder if that's an indication it's a high-carbs car.

    • @jarradchapman4271
      @jarradchapman4271 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Considering Arby's reputation for having 'the meats' in America, I'm sure it'll have not as many carbs as we think.

  • @gargartgocart1
    @gargartgocart1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I mean at least its got paint...................ill take that over the trend of just carbon fiber.

  • @TaralgaBushAdventure
    @TaralgaBushAdventure 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I particularly like the "cogs" graphic at 6:40, which I assume indicates gearbox, where the cogs shown would never mesh and so are useless

  • @Charlie_The_Deer
    @Charlie_The_Deer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My view about all of this:
    Wow, anyways last week

  • @LawVS
    @LawVS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The biggest sticking point is definitely down to both teams having the same shareholders.

    • @OMGitsEOIN
      @OMGitsEOIN 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Law, funny seeing you over here 😂

    • @sgt.thompson98
      @sgt.thompson98 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Ladder Man has been summoned

    • @DrTortoiselle
      @DrTortoiselle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “MICK SCHUMACHER”

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It wasn't when F1 was desperate for team owners.
      Back then, people were grateful.

    • @thainguyen8244
      @thainguyen8244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If you are going that way, should Toto Wolff sell off Williams F1 shares (~$500mil) as he also manages and owns part Mercedes F1?
      Update: Toto Wolff also owns shares in Aston Martin. Aston Martin uses the Mercedes wind tunnel and both teams run the Mercedes F1 engine.

  • @sakhesengwayo
    @sakhesengwayo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Should have named it RB TORRO ROSSO.

  • @BarbaricAvatar
    @BarbaricAvatar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a really nice shade of blue.

  • @DavideAnastasia
    @DavideAnastasia 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let's call it Minardi, and let's stop with this escalation of stupidity

  • @nchmusic99
    @nchmusic99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This livery is miles better than STAKE

    • @ClinicalDecisionYikesYT
      @ClinicalDecisionYikesYT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      miSTAKE

    • @Lastname6955
      @Lastname6955 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You mean the Shrek car? Yeah this is miles clear

    • @techmansa
      @techmansa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THEY BOTH SHIT, this looks like a cigarette box. Suits the position they will be in, a shitty one

  • @martynk5078
    @martynk5078 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just so you know
    FIA Good: Accepted Andretti
    FOM BAD: Greedy Protectionist Commercial Rights Holder Lead by Stefany

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong, FIA didn’t accept Andretti. FIA CHECKED IF THE ANDRETTI PROPOSAL TICKED ALL BOXES, all requirement, that’s all. They gave an administrative okay. They don’t support or okay Andretti as new team. They only checked the proposal. And FOM rejected the proposal COS GM PULLED OUT OF THE PROPOSAL. They didn’t want to supply any engine until 2028. THUS the proposal didn’t tick all the boxes anymore…… In 2028, with GM AS ENGINE SUPPLIER, Andretti can bring in the proposal again. You need to learn the difference between FIA and FOM. And abt what FIA decides or not. In this situation FIA has NO SAY. They only check the administrative side.

  • @MetikalMan
    @MetikalMan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just call it Toro Rosso. I hate title sponsorship.

  • @mstar011
    @mstar011 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why was Stefano Domenicali at the launch for? whats it got to do with him being there? I didn;t see him at all other launches

    • @James-ux9wf
      @James-ux9wf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Vegas I'd imagine. F1 is pushing hard on the marketing there

    • @user-tv9xd1uo6l
      @user-tv9xd1uo6l 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If there was a launch he should have attended it was the 2023 Red Bull one as Ford was getting involved

    • @Redlingstein
      @Redlingstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was in Vegas and F1 has much to arrange there from last year and for the coming years. Domenicali is often at team events. Nothing new.

  • @Johnonayacht
    @Johnonayacht 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The cars aren't painted they are wrapped, and the weight for vinyl is so tiny. I can't believe teams look for the livery to save tiny amounts.

    • @zippo5294
      @zippo5294 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Marginal gains…

    • @maxam2083
      @maxam2083 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      3 kg = 0.3 seconds

    • @re5onance244
      @re5onance244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No they don’t wrap it because the wraps edge would impact the airflow, as well as vinyl requiring constant removal and reapplication to prevent stone chips and minor contact damage. Over 3/4 of the grid is still painted, i believe Mclaren use vinyl for sponsor stickers for a while.
      Also F1 paint is a very thin amount, which is less weight then a full vinyl wrap, which would need to be very complex to reach all the complicated geometry. Every pound matters, as maxam said. With the bigger wheels upping the weight by up to 60kg, the teams are trying to claw back every bit of laptime they can.

    • @ShonnDaylee
      @ShonnDaylee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They are NOT wrapped.

    • @dln.sweeney
      @dln.sweeney 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      McLaren have experimented with wraps but typically just the sponsor logos are vinyl.