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In Fracesco’s defense… I doubt he was ever supposed to be a villain. Sure, he was supposed to be Lightning’s rival for the race, but he never cheats and actually seems horrified by all the accidents with the Allinol.
You make a good point with the Johnny argument. But I am somewhat disappointed that mor'du was not higher. After all, he was a big threat whenever he was on screen. Though My statement is not to deny your good points, still good job.
Yeah if anything, Francesco is pretty much a "nicer" version of Chick Hicks. At least he doesn't try to physically assault the other cars and even grows to respect Lightning at the end
Zurg was never meant to be a real villain hes just a toy like them but advertised as the antagonist for Buzz in their "story". But hes just another person or toy like them lol. Sure they could have delved further into him thinking hes meant to be the villain just like how Buzz thinks hes an actual space ranger...but it's not really necessary either. Not every Pixar movie needs a super villain or even main antagonist. He was there for more lighthearted comedy. That's all. Besides Stinky Pete is there as the bigger "villain" with his greedy behaviour.
What makes it worse is they make a nod to that throwaway line in the movie itself If Zurg were an actual robot warlord, that would be fascinating as well. Because he has no feeling toward the heroes, and has no qualms with putting their lives at risk or even ending them if it happened. They're just *insects* in his way
Personally I've always had an issue with how charles muntz was handled in UP. It's one of the few times where i think a sympathetic villain would have been the better option because his backstory is actually really sad. He has his entire reputation destroyed over something that wasn't his fault and tries to fix it and over time slowly decends into madness over his obsession. I always thought it was a bit lame that they just make him generic evil man when his motivations are actually really understandable
I mean, he was alone for God knows how many years, with only the company of his dogs. I think it makes sense he went crazy and paranoical to the point of killing the explorers who went there (thinking they were after his bird) though a redemption arc would be interesting, to say the least.
@@FranciscoPetrucioJunior I'm not saying it doesn't make sense in fact that's kind of my problem. His backstory fits too well for a sympathetic villain but the movie doesn't do anything with it beyond "I'm evil now"
The funniest thing about the Underminer is when the cops are tearing into Bob and Helen with the whole "everything is insured" spiel. This implies that things like giant drill tanks, arson, and multiple buildings getting destroyed at once is completely normal, but super heroes are the "bad guys"
That was the same shit on the first one, bob and frozone saved a bunch of people from a building that was on fire and instead of praise they get a gun to the face
Something i really like about AUTO is the design; Pixar made a literal ship steering wheel robot intimidating af 💀 Also, another thing funny about AUTO is how the Buy n Large corporation made AUTO, a steering wheel robot who's only purpose is to be the ship's autopilot, and decided "you know what? Let's also give him an electrical taser."
One way it could be seen is how it could've been a protocol added to AUTO to prevent any reason to return to Earth as they followed the order to not return to Earth. So they would add the defense protocol to AUTO to neutralize any target so they don't gain any control over the Axiom to return to Earth. Another reason could be for if any rogue passengers try to attack the ship and take control, AUTO could be able to defend themself and neutralize the enemy. They probably had to take many precautions when building the Axiom as they made this in order to make this new home for all of civilization as safe as possible, but AUTO took the order very seriously as programmed to and caused the entire main conflict of the film and used the defense protocol to not let anything drive them away from their orders.
43:28 something I wanna add about this line. Chef Boyardee was a real person. Hector Boiardi was an immigrant who helped low income families during the the Great Depression by selling jars of sauce to families. Pasta is and was pretty cheap, so it was a way for families to feed themselves during these times. He would establish his brand later on under the name Chef Boy-ar-dee so that Americans could pronounce it easier. There's more to the story, but what's important is that he was a real person who has fallen from the public eye to become just another mascot for cheap food. Sound familiar? The context makes this line a pretty devastating burn to be honest.
@@kociarzultimate384I get your point but this argument ignores that he calls all the characters in the list villains regardless of whether or not the character is more of an antagonist than a villian, this includes Sid.
I honestly don’t blame Schafrillas for forgetting about Miles Axelrod in his twist villains video. It makes no sense for him to be the lemons boss. Why would you sabotage your own business?
They already had an entertaining villain in the form of Professor Z. Yeah this is one of those times where they thought "oh making him the main villain would be too easy" and decided to shoot themselves in the foot.
I still say Screenslaver had a good option. It should have been both siblings. Winston is the guy in the mask and the brains behind the scheme, and Evelyn is the one behind the technology of the plan. They are faking crimes and putting real people in danger to make a point as to why superheroes need to come back. It plays off that same issue of the first movie, if idolizing people but not learning the lessons you need to, but also comes to a different conclusion while getting similar results. Syndrome made an issue and solved it himself while deeming no one else fit to be a hero. The Deavors could have been making issues and solving it through heroes to show why they are needed, which could leave a more powerful message at the end about doing the right thing for the right reasons.
Very much agreed. If the first movie tells the tale of how bitter hatred stemming from disappointment in meeting your idol can lead a person down a dark path, the second could tell a tale on how blind idolatry can turn into dangerous fanaticism.
My favorite part about Ercole is his "we are afraid of you" speech. Like, the other humans in the film were after sea monsters due to fear of the unkown, and it was actually understandable. Put yourself in their shoes: were you really be willing to bet those supposedly monstrous sea beings were peaceful? But Ercole KNOWS Luca and Alberto are harmless children, but he uses the fear everybody, understandably, has of them to justify HIS greed and hate (he only wants to kill them because A: He wants the prize money and B: He hates their guts). Plus, the way he says that without a twinge of fear in his voice is what sells it for me.
17:18 As a senior in high school who is going to college, I know firsthand that people like Johnny aren't a trope of a dead type of person. They still exist, and are insufferable.
I feel like I should point out, that The Underminer was the main villain in a Incredibles Video Game, known as The Rise of the Underminer. While it's not considered Canon, it's something to consider at least.
Something I noticed a while ago about Toy Story antagonists is that they are all defeated with humiliation. Sid is horrified and humbled, Stinky Pete is taken in by a child who definitely won't keep him mint, Al gets the wind knocked from his sails by losing his big sale, Lotso is made a laughing stock on the front of a truck, and Gabby Gabbie is hit with cold hard reality about the fickle nature of children.
Syndrome is hands down Pixar's best villian. I love everything about him. Design,character,motivation and voice. I also love the fan theory that he was actually working with the US Government,helping them eliminate the super's,giving them an excuse to terminate the expensive program that relocates them as shown in Incredibles 2,and giving them more money to spend elsewhere. Syndrome gets revenge on supers,the government gets to terminate the program.
Yeah syndrome is easily the best villain in the entire Pixar catalog and this is coming from a character who is voiced by the same actor who plays Dave Seville in the live action chipmunks franchise how do you go from syndrome to Dave in the span of three years that’s honestly kind of amazing
1:47 - Again, I might have to repeat this. If Cars 2 is meant to be an hour-long television special of Mater's Tall Tales called Agent 00Mater, then we would be A LOT more forgiving I think.
Here's an idea. What if Finn and Holly actually took Mater seriously when he said that he wasn't a spy and since he's a bit too far in to just have him back out like nothing happened, decided to make him their eyes on the ground by watching the race from Lightning's pit crew? You'd probably have to change a lot about the story at that point but then again it wasn't a very good story to begin with
I hate Screenslaver the most since everything about him before the reveal is actually really damn good. The "cyberpunk Riddler" aesthetic you referred to is a really fun aesthetic for a villain and the whole "monologue," for lack of a better word, while Elastagirl is following the transmission is one of the best villain scenes for me in recent memory. But once the twist happens it all goes to shit and I cannot properly explain how disappointed I was.
Monsters University even makes things even more interesting with the whole backstory of how they all met. Further proof that Randall wanted revenge on Sully was the line: "That's the last time I lose to you, Sullivan!" Which led me to believe that Randall held a grudge against Sully way before Monsters Inc.
Even though I think Monsters University is inferior overall, I really like how Randall started off as Mike's roommate only to turn to the dark side (one flaw of this movie however is that this transition for Randall is entirely offscreen). Then when you rewatch Monsters Inc, the line "you don't know how long I've wanted to do that to you, Sullivan" line is much more impactful because you're able to connect more dots
@@kflip11 I totally understand seeing that movie as inferior, it does have a pacing issue, but I've always loved Monsters University as a prequel. Mike was a great comedic voice in the original, but adding some flesh to his character and challenging his self confidence was necessary to fully round him out (ha). With Monsters at Work also in play, the franchise is a pretty well done series about a world with a clearly biased social structure that needed to change and the duo who put in the effort to create a kinder reality. Of course, the bulk of that work was done in Monsters Inc, but the other two entries show us 1) how the previous social structure left incredibly capable monsters at a disadvantage for things they can't control and 2) how the process of changing this social structure was, in fact, a complicated process requiring people to make major changes to their lives and thought patterns.
@@unknown_limes It also retconned Mike saying how he and Sully were friends since they were kids. Unless he considers college-age to be "kids", but I don't think they're at that point of life in Monsters, Inc.
30: Miles Axelrod (His existence makes no sense in “Cars”) 29: Mor’du (I felt nothing throughout this whole movie) 28: Jangles the Clown (“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself”) 27: Thunderclap (Like the movie, he is forgettable) 26: Curse Dragon (This giant monster poses a threat while also being funny) 25: Darla (I hate this stupid little girl WAY TOOOOO MUCH) 24: Zurg (A great villain in Toy Story 2 ruined by the retcon) 23: Johnny Worthington (Nothing more than a bully, but a great bully) 22: Professor Zundapp (Brings some enjoyment to this garbage film) 21: Ercole (More psychotic than any other Pixar bully) 20: Jerry (I just plain love this character in Soul) 19: Jackson Storm (Not the worst, but not bad either) 18: Dean Hardscrabble (So satisfying when she gets proved wrong) 17: Al Wiggin (He’s growing on me over the years) 16: AUTO (Very underrated imo, contrasts Wall-E as scary to Wall-E’s kind nature) 15: Gabby Gabby (Everyone loves a sympathetic villain) 14: Anton Ego (A FOOD CRITIC brings some of the most intense & satisfying moments) 13: Chick Hicks (Micheal Keaton made him enjoyable to hate) 12: The Underminer (A fun villain with not nearly enough screentime) 11: Screen Slaver (Pixar screwed up some things with her) 10: Chef Skinner (Not actually evil, but somehow very scary) 9: Stinky Pete (A very important character to the Toy Story series) 8: Mr. Waternoose (At this point, twist villains were still cool) 7: Charles Muntz (This old man is surprisingly sadistic lol) 6: Ernesto De La Cruz (A twist villain done right. He’s scary and cunning) 5: Sid (This psycho truly terrified me as a kid) 4: Randal (Steve Buschemy+Charismatic Villain Monster=Perfection) 3: Lotso (How is this cute, inviting Teddy Bear so evil?) 2: Hopper (Now this is a villain! A real villain!) 1: Syndrome (The perfect definition of a super villain)
Something I think Caco gets right with the twist villian is that Ernesto dosent really change as a character. His motive stays the same durring the movie he's just pushed further.
Syndrome is even more messed up when you realize almost every eliminated hero was AT mr and mrs incredibles wedding, he tried to murder everyone close to them leading up to the extermination of mr incredible
Not to mention it's his (because it's also his fault Bomb Voyage got away and the train incident happene), the government's and the people's fault that the Supers went into hiding. Allowing villains like him to track them down and kill them one by one.
The more I think about it, the more the original Monster's Inc (the factory) sounds like something out of a horror novel. A company dedicated to scare (and so, traumatize) children just to harvest their screams and use them as an energy source. That's messed up on so many levels and that's even before considering kidnapping.
I actually quite like Professor Zundapp. He's pretty entertaining and so are his underlings, and the engine torture scene makes him rather intimidating. If Cars 2 was more like it's start/that scene/etc, it would have been better, I think.
i like how you specified that thunderclap is a nyictosaurus, but then called him a dinosaur instead of a pterosaur. us paleo nerds had a nice laugh at that one XD
True, but the fact that Mater was actually right about Miles being the mastermind just reinforces how dumb of a villain Miles was. His plan was ridiculously impractical and convoluted.
Didn’t think about this until recently, but Waternoose's twist reveal was hinted at during the very beginning of the movie. In the commercial he says "MI is prepared for the future" and "Research into new energy techniques." The footage shows a monster using VR during the second line to make you think that's what he meant, but he was really subtly hinting at the Scream Extractor operation
In my opinion, the best Pixar villain is Joy from Inside Out. Seriously, her obsession with keeping Riley happy is both understandable and dangerous at the same time. It carries the film‘s themes perfectly while not making her unlikeable at all. She is the hero and the villain at the same time. And that’s what makes her so great.
@@pjklockner5683thats kinda like calling Woody the villain of Toy Story because he tried killing Buzz, have you seen the second half of Inside Out where she learned that other emotions matter?
I knew Evelyn was the Screenslaver because in one scene, when her brother was playing the projector of the superhero damage-I believe that was what was going on-she appeared in the freaking shadow of the darkened room.
@katherinesmallbean3594 From what I heard from one critic, that was another dead giveaway. I think it would've been better if the Screenslaver had been a politician and wanted the supers gone because out one damage caused his or her family to be killed by one of the destructions caused by a superhero-but that was Buddy when he tried to be a hero and has caused damage that got ppl killed. This politician is so full of rage and fear that his/her new family would be killed again if supers were reinstated and decided to use technology to make the supers look bad. But there's a flaw in the system and now the Screenslaver kidnaps Evelyn, who also feels that ppl depend on supers too much but would never go as far as killing them but still wants to help her brother, but makes it look like she's the villain. But, she isn't.
1. Lotso 2. Syndrome 3. Ernesto De La Cruz 4. Randall Boggs 5. Anton Ego 6. Hooper 7. Charles Muntz 8. Stinky Pete 9. Mr. Waternoose 10. Chef Skinner 11. Al McWiggin 12. Sid Phillips 13. Dean Hardscrabble 14. Johnny Worthington III 15. Chick Hicks 16. AUTO 17. Jackson Storm 18. Darla Sherman 19. Gabby Gabby 20. Ercole 21. The Cursed Dragon 22. Thunderclap 23. Mordu 24. Professor Zundap 25. Screenslayer/Evelyn Deavor 26. Zurg/Buzz Lightyear 27. Miles Axelrod
Auto has been my favourite Disney/Pixar villain since I first watched Walle and still is. Though I 100% agree with your list because I like Syndrome just as much and wanted him to return in the second movie (don’t ask how, I don’t know).
Doesn't anyone find it weird that in all 2 of The Incredibles movies, every villain, major and miner, have no superpowers? Syndrome didn't have superpowers, The Underminer didn't have superpowers, Screenslaver also didn't have any superpowers. I think it would've been really interesting if the villain in The Incredibles 2 was a former super that turned on the people she once swore to protect because she sacrificed everything for the city, only for a law to be made that outlawed her and everyone like her. They wouldn't even need to change much, just make the Screenslaver be able to mind control people with powers instead of tech and change the backstory to match the character.
I would also like to know a little bit more on the origin of superheroes in that universe, as well as their powers. Were they government projects? Or something else entirely?
@@FranciscoPetrucioJunior Maybe it's like personality, we're just born with it, everyone has one, and all of them are different from one another. The powers of the Parr family match their individual personalities. Bob has super strength because he's headstrong and the foundation of his family, Helen is stretchy like elastic because she's adaptable and will become anything if it helps her family, Dash has superspeed because he's impulsive and energetic, Violet has forcefields and invisibility because she's shy and likes personal space, and Jack-Jack has everything because he holds the most potential for greatness.
It's interesting that there's countless Superheroes in the Incredibles world, but every Villain that we've seen, whether they be main antagonist or background character, are not "Super"Villains. More akin to Batman villains, people using gimmicks.
An argument could be made that Syndrome is a Super with genius intelligence, given his multitude of very technological gadgets, but it's certainly possible that his genius is mundane compared to being able to throw cars across a few blocks.
@@thesardonicrenegadeThen again even Batman has enemies with actual superpowers such as Clayface, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy and Killer Moth after he sold his soul and became Charaxes. Copperhead sold his soul, too.
Maybe it's just me, but if I ever worked at a daycare and saw a 2 year old playing with a toy like buzz lightyear or the potato heads, I'd try to get them away from the kids. Buzz is probably too advanced for a kid that age, and the potato heads are literal choking hazards. With that bring said, I don't have much experience with kids.
Nah, nah, you're right. I'm a preschool teacher, and 1) those toys are definitely not safe/age appropriate, and 2) those teachers are doing absolutely terrible at their job if the kids are playing that rough. Toddlers gonna toddler, but part of our job is discouraging destructive behavior as early as possible. Kids who rip their toys apart will not fare well in higher levels of school
For me, the problem with Evelyn Deavor (Screenslaver) is that her motivation seems to conflict with her actions. She doesn't want heroes to come back but she helps her brother to bring them back. I get that it's for the twist but, we don't see any hints of villainy or shadiness from her, outside of her talk with Elastigirl about society, until she reveals herself in the third act. Not mention her reason for hating supers makes no sense. She hates them because her dad decided to call supers for help during a burglary but was killed, because supers were just outlawed. Why is she upset at them? It's not their fault he died. The supers were forced by the government to go into hiding and her father didn't know that so that's why he called. Even then, it was his choice not to call the police. I beat that if he called the cops instead, she'd probably be upset at them and not supers.
She was mad because her father trusted supers more than he trusted himself. Understand this: she believes people have blind trust in supers. Her father, despite having a godanm secret room, chose to try and call heroes that he knew were illegal. And about her helping her brother: her brother had money, influence, and a growing social support. Even if she didn't help him, he'd eventually succeed. She was just making sure he (and no one for that matter) was going to be able to do that
I mean Syndrome’s motivation was also pretty stupid when you think about. He basically mass murdered a bunch of retired heroes just because his favorite told him to get lost after he interfered and nearly got killed from getting involved in his extremely dangerous job while he was just a young kid.
@@FranciscoPetrucioJuniorthat's her father's fault for not installing the super phone INSIDE his panic room and instead near the front entrance for no fucking reason.
Maybe I’m old fashioned but Screenslaver and Zurg… should’ve just been… Screenslaver and Zurg? Not everything needs to be a twist or subversion. You can just have an evil villain or a giant scary robot with goals and morals you couldn’t possibly understand? When I saw the previews for Lightyear, I was so excited because Zurg looked fucking awesome. This giant towering, 13 foot menace. But no. He had to be some stupid lame twist in a boring as hell movie
I will say this about Incredibles 2: It handled feminism a lot better than the Barbie Movie did. In the Barbie movie, everyone was whiney and one sides, while in this one, you see a stay at home mother get back into the field and deal with the changes that comes with being a woman. But never did she assume her husband or any man she meets as a representation for all men.
49:11 uh... what? Pathetic need for profit? Man, he's in the hole. The city needs energy. The livelihood of hundreds and their families rely on him. Rely on the company staying open. If Waternoose knew about the power of laughter, I have no doubt he'd have gone completely into that instead. Because he's not a villain because he has bad intentions, he's a villain because his desperation has pushed him to do horrible, inhumane things.
He was a villain for banishing Mike and Sully as well as trying to frame them at the end and before all that he was the one that banished Abnormable as reveled in Monsters at Work
54:45 Another point to Syndrome's design, this scene especially goes to show how Pixar can take a goofy design detail like buck-like teeth and still have creepy and disturbing scenes.
The reason Zurg was such a terrible villain in my opinion is because he suffers from the Same problem as the rest of the movie ignoring the previous buzz lightyear material that made the characters so popular to begin with the Toy Story series and even the lightyear cartoon spin off and in the cartoon series Zurg was a great villain because he had a great blend of a great voice actor good comedy and still manages to be threatening and the movie just throws it all away
42:58 So basically he's the food critic version of Armond White (excluding the part where he turns around after eating Ratatouille). Syndrome is my favorite animated movie villain. He's a great mind that doesn't accomplish anything because of his own ego and his ego is second to none and that is what gets him destroyed in the end, he thinks he's the only one he needs while the Incredibles learn the value of teamwork and family.
Did you say that Thunderclap loses scary points... because he lost to a t-rex? That's saying Ghengis Khan is less successful a warrior since Oppenheimer said "look at this thing I made".
I love how you still try to bring up positives even with the lower entries on the list. It feels like you are giving each a shot and not instantly ripping on them
@L3gion_Mizuka25 He said antagonist, not villain. Yes, he was likely oblivious to his evil actions but he was still the "big bad" of the first movie. He was the main cause of the conflict in it.
another thing about auto that was it is following orders as the phrase "good soldiers follows orders" implies that it will do anything to prevent breaking the order its like order 66 aside from the jedi massacre that followed sue
I’m one of the few fans of incredible 2 but I really think the screensaver or underminer had way more potential as the villain than the one we actually got.
Good video but I think Lotso is ranked too low. I'd rank him above Sid. I know what Sid mutilates all the toys but Lotso is more meancing and less reformable. Also I'd rank Lotso above Dean Hardscrabble, yeah she is an antagonist to Mike and Sully but I wouldn't call her that much of a villain just a college administrator with a cold-hearted personality. I'll be honest though that the top 10 all are ahead of Lotso. You made a good case for Al for example. Some like Syndrome, Randall, the Prospector and Waternoose are obvious top villians.
Honestly I think auto is kind of overrated it’s just for some reason he kind of angers me I mean he’s a really good villain and a decent wall for the heroes to overcome but the movie was so many great elements to it story They really dropped the ball with the bill and like when he has a rebuttal against captain be McRae he’s only just following his directive like why couldn’t he have his own personality like AI robots can make for such interesting villains but first a movie with so many great things to its name why would they stop with the freaking villain but I don’t think he’s bad he’s just not great I think he’s good
My ranking: Emperor Buzz 2/10 Abby Gabby 2/10 Thunderclap 4/10 Ercole 5/10 Chick Hicks 5/10 Al 5/10 Evelyn Douvor/Screenslaver 5/10 Jackson Storm 5/10 Mor'du 5/10 Sid Philips 6/10 John Wartington III 6/10 Dean Hardscrabble (a.k.a. Principal Centepide) 6/10 The Underminer 6/10 Sir Miles Axelord 6/10 Professor Zundapp 6/10 Curse Dragon 6/10 Stinky Pete 7/10 Charles Muntz 7/10 AUTO 7/10 Anton Ego 8/10 Lots-o-Huggin' Bear 8/10 Mr. Waternoose 8/10 Ernesto Del La Cruz 8/10 Chef Skinner 9/10 Hopper 9/10 Randall Boggs 9/10 Syndrome 10/10
In all honesty, I see Mor’du as the embodiment of what people *think* bears are like. Evil, man eating, merciless and mindless killing machines. When in reality they’re quite the opposite. Yes they attack us sometimes, and yes, sometimes, *very rarely* they do actually eat a human being. But it’s actually very rare for an attack to happen, let alone it be a predatory attack. Bears are more likely to run away from a person and just want to be left alone. So I honestly really love Mor’du as a character and a villain. Even if he gets biased points from me because my favorite animal are bears 😅
*honestly I thought the 1 spot would be the omnidroid, I understand why you picked syndrome. But why I think the omnidroid should be the number 1 spot for me is the fact that it reminds me of ultron from the mcu movie, where this artificial intelligence gets even more smart just like stark and even causing an island to rise and almost cause extinction. For the omnidroid it’s basically like ultron if he had no voice and had more of a ball. The omnidroid is able to learn from it’s previous models and even turned on its creator and the only thing that could defeat it is itself.*
Anton Ego is one of the best redemption stories in all of Pixar when one remembers the sheer fundamental reason of becoming a food critic in the first place I call it The Nostalgic Comeuppance that finally removed his spiteful mentality at least for Gustau's
6:34 Hell yeah, Feminism !! Same here, I a Demi-Asexual, Closeted Trans, Lesbian, in a Transphobic, Acephobic, Family, which is Difficult… Anyway, It’s always nice to see Feminism in Media~^^ 22:34 Yeah…Those Dummy Henchmen are horrifying… Also, anyone else remember the Plush Rush!? 28:04 Yeah, Lotso is like a Fascist dictator, that theory of Sunnyside Daycare being like Auschwitz, and Lotso kinda gives that H!tl£r vibe… so yeah… I see that… 31:17 Babydoll headed…Robotic spider…Thing… Always terrified me… It’s freaky… But you feel bad for it… Sid is a *_MENACE!!!_* 38:37 Hopper is definitely a seriously scary villain for a Kids movie… And his death is horrific, especially to me, we don’t see it, but it’s obvious what happens, the Mother Bird gave Hopper to her Baby Birds, they tore him apart and ate him alive as he screams… 43:50 I was waiting for this creepy Ego Food Critic, he is high up on the list. Exactly as I expected !! 46:03 Stinky Pete gaslighting… Yeah… I can feel that… 48:02 Mr Waternoose is _Definitely_ one of the best Pixar villains~ 49:47 Randall, one of my *_FAVORITE_* Villains, he has such a creepy and cool vibe, he can use Stealth, His basically a Chameleon, it’s soooooooo cool !! {Like Chameleon + Millipede = Randall} And I think his Scream capture Invention cause a Nightmare I had… Well his Invention mixed with a Mind Brain sucking Machine, under a Kids Playplace… Yes this was a Dream I had once… It was definitely scary…
3:56 is it bad that this example of the "bad comedy limper than a deflated tire" actually made me snicker? 😭 Something about the "ur good!!" kinda got me.
Francesco is less of a villain and more of a rival or opponent that taunts mcqueen. I found there back and forth pretty interesting honestly as even though they resort to those kind of remarks, he still does things fairly in order of sportsmanship. Too bad he wasnt the main focus as a "villain" and that the rest of the movie was terrible
Did he say that the underminer didn’t have much to do with the story? He’s the reason the family got arrested and led them to take the offer from Winston out of desperation due to the fact that they were going to be homeless in 2 weeks
This video has made me realize just how often Pixar incorporates the theme of 'never meet your heroes' into their movies, like godd-mn!? Just how many times can one company pull off the same theme in so many different ways and types of idols. From music singers to super heroes.
Miles Axelrod's entire plan it terrible, if he's selling a faulty fuel then the cars are gonna blame him! For example: if I started selling donuts that made people explode, they wouldn't blame donuts as a concept, they would blame my specific donuts. His career would be over no matter what he does! But if he instead sold alternative fuel for real then he would probably make way more money!
Zurg's twist in Lightyear was my main gripe about the Lightyear movie. Admittedly I didn't like at first that Tim Allen wasn't going to voice Buzz and wasn't going to see the movie ever, but...I saw Zurg and my inner fangirl made me change my mind. :P And I actually liked the movie but maybe I'm simple to please, as someone who doesn't enjoy more mature films. I seem to like movies that most people absolutely hate, lol. Side note: There's actually a novel version of the movie as well, and in it, Zurg is not just a "man in mecha suit"; He's actually a giant robot. Though in the book, he's supposedly killed (for good) while in the movie, if you wait through the credits (ALL OF THEM), you'll see that Zurg survived his final battle against Buzz, as his eyes flash back on while floating in space. If there's somehow a Lightyear 2, I hope to DEATH that Zurg is not "Old Buzz" again, and that he is his own entity once more. This was my fave design for him, twist aside, and I want to see more.
I would suggest ranking the Walt Disney Animation Studios villains next, but 1 - that would take such a long time to make, and 2 - you already made your top 5 best and worst of them.
No offense but Al McWiggin from Toy Story 2 is not the only human Toy Story Villian because isn't Sid from the first Toy Story film a human as well (I still love Pixar)
6:27 - 6.45 I've unsubscribed from your channel months before this video, and this moment doesn't make me regret that. This sounds like a pretentious jab at a film from someone who follows TV Tropes like a bible. The second film has a focal female hero and villain, so what? The first did the same but with the gender swapped. Not to mention Elastigirl being chosen over Mr. Incredible was contextualised by more consistent and less destructive history records - something unrelated to gender unless you try to disingenuously stereotype it. Needless to say, it's bad-faith criticism pretending to sound intelligent or logically interpret something.
I agree, I love this guy’s and Shafrilla’s vids except when they decide to bring up real world politics when it’s not necessarry. It comes across like they’re trying to politicize these family movies that aren’t meant to be political and judging them on whether or not they feel validated by them. It’s an issue I have with right wing movie review channels too just keep your political opinions to yourself.
I seem to notice a pattern in the more down to earth villains always seeming to represent the commodification of some form of art or passion; toys, cuisine, racing, music, education, the only outlier has to be P. Sherman whose just sort of a jovial idiot.
During my first watch I thought that Syndrome actually was a Super. Having a superpower doesn't neccessarily have to be a physical one. Super intelligence is def a thing and I thought Syndrome had it. Think about it, he not only made enough extraordinary technology and gadgets to fund his big ass company AND island. But he did this in 15 years!! He build his empire in 15 years! That is insane. If the movie would have had a twist in the end where it's revealed that Syndrome is in fact a Super, I would have bought it immediately. Nevertheless, the movie is fantastic as it is!
Super power by default is usually more than the ordinary. You can argue that intelligence is a super power but with syndrome he's in the same level as Richthofen from BLack ops Zombies, they're IQ smart in human level but compared to Brainiac or Flash who are basically living computers are beyond human smarts
I’m surprised that AUTO managed to make it so high up. Though I think it could have made AUTO more interesting if it tried to come up with a counter argument with the captain for why the Axiom can’t return to Earth as a more sociological attempt to follow its orders. Like say, they can’t go back because one single plant isn’t enough to sustain a human population when it’s the only sign of life in an otherwise dead planet. Or that humanity will just repeat the same mistakes twice making no difference in the end, so the Earth just might better off without humans.
Screenslaver is such a dumbass villain. Like, her motivations dont make sense, she blames superheroes for her father's death, but like, her dad was the one that wanted to be saved by heroes, he died bc they were outlawed by the government. They should have put like, her dad had an argument with a hero and the hero killed him or smth
Here's another clue that hints that Axelrod wasn't electric And that's the fact that he is 2010 Land Rover Which at the time there weren't any electric Land Rovers
Screenslaver could have been neat if there was no twist or the twist was that he didn't exist as anything more than a performance about super heroes and whatnot :v
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In Fracesco’s defense… I doubt he was ever supposed to be a villain. Sure, he was supposed to be Lightning’s rival for the race, but he never cheats and actually seems horrified by all the accidents with the Allinol.
Yeah He’s just cocky
and easily gets flabbergasted when someone zooms by him
@@DakkaScrappa I mean if you saw a giant jet going to buy you a new speed would you be shocked
You make a good point with the Johnny argument. But I am somewhat disappointed that mor'du was not higher. After all, he was a big threat whenever he was on screen. Though My statement is not to deny your good points, still good job.
Yeah if anything, Francesco is pretty much a "nicer" version of Chick Hicks. At least he doesn't try to physically assault the other cars and even grows to respect Lightning at the end
I still believe Zurg would've been better if they made him Buzz's father like how he originally is
Zurg was never meant to be a real villain hes just a toy like them but advertised as the antagonist for Buzz in their "story". But hes just another person or toy like them lol. Sure they could have delved further into him thinking hes meant to be the villain just like how Buzz thinks hes an actual space ranger...but it's not really necessary either. Not every Pixar movie needs a super villain or even main antagonist. He was there for more lighthearted comedy. That's all. Besides Stinky Pete is there as the bigger "villain" with his greedy behaviour.
Yup.
Or, like in the Cartoon series, he lies about being his father as a tactic to catch him off guard
@@MrAnimater_Vr Facts.
What makes it worse is they make a nod to that throwaway line in the movie itself
If Zurg were an actual robot warlord, that would be fascinating as well. Because he has no feeling toward the heroes, and has no qualms with putting their lives at risk or even ending them if it happened. They're just *insects* in his way
Personally I've always had an issue with how charles muntz was handled in UP. It's one of the few times where i think a sympathetic villain would have been the better option because his backstory is actually really sad. He has his entire reputation destroyed over something that wasn't his fault and tries to fix it and over time slowly decends into madness over his obsession. I always thought it was a bit lame that they just make him generic evil man when his motivations are actually really understandable
I mean, he was alone for God knows how many years, with only the company of his dogs. I think it makes sense he went crazy and paranoical to the point of killing the explorers who went there (thinking they were after his bird) though a redemption arc would be interesting, to say the least.
@@FranciscoPetrucioJunior I'm not saying it doesn't make sense in fact that's kind of my problem. His backstory fits too well for a sympathetic villain but the movie doesn't do anything with it beyond "I'm evil now"
@@Cyberleader672
They had the idea of him being sympathetic but it was scrapped
A deleted scene reveals they originally wanted to redeem him , but apparently, two men just talking at the climax wasn't gonna fly at Pixar
Out of all the villains of Pixar muntz deserves a redemption arc the most
The funniest thing about the Underminer is when the cops are tearing into Bob and Helen with the whole "everything is insured" spiel.
This implies that things like giant drill tanks, arson, and multiple buildings getting destroyed at once is completely normal, but super heroes are the "bad guys"
That was the same shit on the first one, bob and frozone saved a bunch of people from a building that was on fire and instead of praise they get a gun to the face
@@BigJ2006To be fair they found them in a jewelry store and looked like comic book thiefs
Something i really like about AUTO is the design; Pixar made a literal ship steering wheel robot intimidating af 💀
Also, another thing funny about AUTO is how the Buy n Large corporation made AUTO, a steering wheel robot who's only purpose is to be the ship's autopilot, and decided "you know what? Let's also give him an electrical taser."
Tho this day, I still have no idea who tought that was a good gadget for an autopilot. On what kind of fucked situations does it need one of those???
I always assume it was meant for use on some technology in the ship, like some kind of an emergency electrical charge, and not against humans
One way it could be seen is how it could've been a protocol added to AUTO to prevent any reason to return to Earth as they followed the order to not return to Earth. So they would add the defense protocol to AUTO to neutralize any target so they don't gain any control over the Axiom to return to Earth.
Another reason could be for if any rogue passengers try to attack the ship and take control, AUTO could be able to defend themself and neutralize the enemy. They probably had to take many precautions when building the Axiom as they made this in order to make this new home for all of civilization as safe as possible, but AUTO took the order very seriously as programmed to and caused the entire main conflict of the film and used the defense protocol to not let anything drive them away from their orders.
43:28 something I wanna add about this line. Chef Boyardee was a real person. Hector Boiardi was an immigrant who helped low income families during the the Great Depression by selling jars of sauce to families. Pasta is and was pretty cheap, so it was a way for families to feed themselves during these times. He would establish his brand later on under the name Chef Boy-ar-dee so that Americans could pronounce it easier.
There's more to the story, but what's important is that he was a real person who has fallen from the public eye to become just another mascot for cheap food. Sound familiar? The context makes this line a pretty devastating burn to be honest.
That's really interesting, I never knew that!
I think it’s honorable to be remembered alongside Chef Boyardee, as long as you’re remembered. Providing food for the hungry and poor is a noble deed.
To this day, Syndrome remains the best Pixar villain. While Pixar has some other great villains, Syndrome tops all of them for me.
He’s the og Titan/Hal Stewart from Megamind for me.
I havent finished the video but this better not be a spoiler, this was the first comment I saw on my screen
I read that as spamtom for some reason
@@littletrilly900 I haven't seen the whole video so I can't say. I just wanted to leave a comment when the video just got uploaded to TH-cam.
No the best is Anton Ego
‘Being the only human Toy Story villain’- wait did we not just talk about Sid?😂
I'm going to assume he meant "adult human", hence the emphasis on his size at the beginning of the description
i was gonna say the same thing XD
There is different between villain and antagonist, villains are evil, antagonists are problem, Sith was unaware he was hurting living beings
@@kociarzultimate384I get your point but this argument ignores that he calls all the characters in the list villains regardless of whether or not the character is more of an antagonist than a villian, this includes Sid.
I’m just realising that now 😂
I honestly don’t blame Schafrillas for forgetting about Miles Axelrod in his twist villains video. It makes no sense for him to be the lemons boss. Why would you sabotage your own business?
You know there was a villain from Batman: The Animated Series called Joker's Wild that accomplished what Cars 2 failed at.
I don’t think he forgot, he just didn’t want to talk about him at all. Which is fair
They already had an entertaining villain in the form of Professor Z. Yeah this is one of those times where they thought "oh making him the main villain would be too easy" and decided to shoot themselves in the foot.
I mean, to be fair, Schaf really REALLY doesn't like that movie so I'm sure he knew, he just didn't want to talk about it
He's playing 4D chess
I still say Screenslaver had a good option. It should have been both siblings. Winston is the guy in the mask and the brains behind the scheme, and Evelyn is the one behind the technology of the plan. They are faking crimes and putting real people in danger to make a point as to why superheroes need to come back. It plays off that same issue of the first movie, if idolizing people but not learning the lessons you need to, but also comes to a different conclusion while getting similar results. Syndrome made an issue and solved it himself while deeming no one else fit to be a hero. The Deavors could have been making issues and solving it through heroes to show why they are needed, which could leave a more powerful message at the end about doing the right thing for the right reasons.
Very much agreed. If the first movie tells the tale of how bitter hatred stemming from disappointment in meeting your idol can lead a person down a dark path, the second could tell a tale on how blind idolatry can turn into dangerous fanaticism.
My favorite part about Ercole is his "we are afraid of you" speech. Like, the other humans in the film were after sea monsters due to fear of the unkown, and it was actually understandable. Put yourself in their shoes: were you really be willing to bet those supposedly monstrous sea beings were peaceful? But Ercole KNOWS Luca and Alberto are harmless children, but he uses the fear everybody, understandably, has of them to justify HIS greed and hate (he only wants to kill them because A: He wants the prize money and B: He hates their guts). Plus, the way he says that without a twinge of fear in his voice is what sells it for me.
17:18 As a senior in high school who is going to college, I know firsthand that people like Johnny aren't a trope of a dead type of person. They still exist, and are insufferable.
im sure he's that college athlete
I feel like I should point out, that The Underminer was the main villain in a Incredibles Video Game, known as The Rise of the Underminer. While it's not considered Canon, it's something to consider at least.
Something I noticed a while ago about Toy Story antagonists is that they are all defeated with humiliation. Sid is horrified and humbled, Stinky Pete is taken in by a child who definitely won't keep him mint, Al gets the wind knocked from his sails by losing his big sale, Lotso is made a laughing stock on the front of a truck, and Gabby Gabbie is hit with cold hard reality about the fickle nature of children.
Syndrome is hands down Pixar's best villian. I love everything about him. Design,character,motivation and voice. I also love the fan theory that he was actually working with the US Government,helping them eliminate the super's,giving them an excuse to terminate the expensive program that relocates them as shown in Incredibles 2,and giving them more money to spend elsewhere. Syndrome gets revenge on supers,the government gets to terminate the program.
Yeah syndrome is easily the best villain in the entire Pixar catalog and this is coming from a character who is voiced by the same actor who plays Dave Seville in the live action chipmunks franchise how do you go from syndrome to Dave in the span of three years that’s honestly kind of amazing
To be fair, Jason Lee and David Cross are the best part of those movies
@@deadgalaxy1 well your only half right David cross is easily the best part but Jason lee on the other hand is not
1:47 - Again, I might have to repeat this. If Cars 2 is meant to be an hour-long television special of Mater's Tall Tales called Agent 00Mater, then we would be A LOT more forgiving I think.
Or be a standalone sequel or spin-off
Also I actually like Cars 2
Yeah, it wasn't bad... but didn't fir the tone of the franchise at all (and the plot has a few "whoopsie-daisies" here and there as well.
Here's an idea. What if Finn and Holly actually took Mater seriously when he said that he wasn't a spy and since he's a bit too far in to just have him back out like nothing happened, decided to make him their eyes on the ground by watching the race from Lightning's pit crew? You'd probably have to change a lot about the story at that point but then again it wasn't a very good story to begin with
I hate Screenslaver the most since everything about him before the reveal is actually really damn good. The "cyberpunk Riddler" aesthetic you referred to is a really fun aesthetic for a villain and the whole "monologue," for lack of a better word, while Elastagirl is following the transmission is one of the best villain scenes for me in recent memory. But once the twist happens it all goes to shit and I cannot properly explain how disappointed I was.
Finally someone gives auto the respect he deserves
Monsters University even makes things even more interesting with the whole backstory of how they all met. Further proof that Randall wanted revenge on Sully was the line: "That's the last time I lose to you, Sullivan!" Which led me to believe that Randall held a grudge against Sully way before Monsters Inc.
Even though I think Monsters University is inferior overall, I really like how Randall started off as Mike's roommate only to turn to the dark side (one flaw of this movie however is that this transition for Randall is entirely offscreen). Then when you rewatch Monsters Inc, the line "you don't know how long I've wanted to do that to you, Sullivan" line is much more impactful because you're able to connect more dots
@@kflip11 I totally understand seeing that movie as inferior, it does have a pacing issue, but I've always loved Monsters University as a prequel. Mike was a great comedic voice in the original, but adding some flesh to his character and challenging his self confidence was necessary to fully round him out (ha). With Monsters at Work also in play, the franchise is a pretty well done series about a world with a clearly biased social structure that needed to change and the duo who put in the effort to create a kinder reality. Of course, the bulk of that work was done in Monsters Inc, but the other two entries show us 1) how the previous social structure left incredibly capable monsters at a disadvantage for things they can't control and 2) how the process of changing this social structure was, in fact, a complicated process requiring people to make major changes to their lives and thought patterns.
@@unknown_limes It also retconned Mike saying how he and Sully were friends since they were kids. Unless he considers college-age to be "kids", but I don't think they're at that point of life in Monsters, Inc.
Hopper is terrifying. Glad he got a high rank. Also, AUTO is literally just GLaDOS from the Portal games. In a good way, both are awesome.
Nah, AUTO is HAL not GLaDOS. There's not a tinge of humanity or sass from that repurposed Wii kart steering wheel
30: Miles Axelrod (His existence makes no sense in “Cars”)
29: Mor’du (I felt nothing throughout this whole movie)
28: Jangles the Clown (“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself”)
27: Thunderclap (Like the movie, he is forgettable)
26: Curse Dragon (This giant monster poses a threat while also being funny)
25: Darla (I hate this stupid little girl WAY TOOOOO MUCH)
24: Zurg (A great villain in Toy Story 2 ruined by the retcon)
23: Johnny Worthington (Nothing more than a bully, but a great bully)
22: Professor Zundapp (Brings some enjoyment to this garbage film)
21: Ercole (More psychotic than any other Pixar bully)
20: Jerry (I just plain love this character in Soul)
19: Jackson Storm (Not the worst, but not bad either)
18: Dean Hardscrabble (So satisfying when she gets proved wrong)
17: Al Wiggin (He’s growing on me over the years)
16: AUTO (Very underrated imo, contrasts Wall-E as scary to Wall-E’s kind nature)
15: Gabby Gabby (Everyone loves a sympathetic villain)
14: Anton Ego (A FOOD CRITIC brings some of the most intense & satisfying moments)
13: Chick Hicks (Micheal Keaton made him enjoyable to hate)
12: The Underminer (A fun villain with not nearly enough screentime)
11: Screen Slaver (Pixar screwed up some things with her)
10: Chef Skinner (Not actually evil, but somehow very scary)
9: Stinky Pete (A very important character to the Toy Story series)
8: Mr. Waternoose (At this point, twist villains were still cool)
7: Charles Muntz (This old man is surprisingly sadistic lol)
6: Ernesto De La Cruz (A twist villain done right. He’s scary and cunning)
5: Sid (This psycho truly terrified me as a kid)
4: Randal (Steve Buschemy+Charismatic Villain Monster=Perfection)
3: Lotso (How is this cute, inviting Teddy Bear so evil?)
2: Hopper (Now this is a villain! A real villain!)
1: Syndrome (The perfect definition of a super villain)
"Pixar screwed up some things with her" Then why is she at 11 tho-
Something I think Caco gets right with the twist villian is that Ernesto dosent really change as a character. His motive stays the same durring the movie he's just pushed further.
Syndrome is even more messed up when you realize almost every eliminated hero was AT mr and mrs incredibles wedding, he tried to murder everyone close to them leading up to the extermination of mr incredible
Not to mention it's his (because it's also his fault Bomb Voyage got away and the train incident happene), the government's and the people's fault that the Supers went into hiding. Allowing villains like him to track them down and kill them one by one.
The more I think about it, the more the original Monster's Inc (the factory) sounds like something out of a horror novel. A company dedicated to scare (and so, traumatize) children just to harvest their screams and use them as an energy source. That's messed up on so many levels and that's even before considering kidnapping.
The similarities to Jessie’s story with Lots’o is definitely intentional. To show the other side of that longing for companionship. A dark side.
I always hated the new Zurg. His design actually looks awesome, but his "twist" was stupid as hell.
I actually quite like Professor Zundapp. He's pretty entertaining and so are his underlings, and the engine torture scene makes him rather intimidating. If Cars 2 was more like it's start/that scene/etc, it would have been better, I think.
Hopper is my favourite but Randall and Waternoose are underrated. Shame more Pixar movies now don't have villains at all!
From Great Villians to Twist Villians to No Villians
Yes but honestly not all of their movies need villains
i like how you specified that thunderclap is a nyictosaurus, but then called him a dinosaur instead of a pterosaur. us paleo nerds had a nice laugh at that one XD
Ya know, I'm just happy he didn't say pterodactyl.
"conveniently turned detective"
Hang on, Mater has a vast knowledge of motor parts. It was established as soon as he was reintroduced in the movie.
True, but the fact that Mater was actually right about Miles being the mastermind just reinforces how dumb of a villain Miles was. His plan was ridiculously impractical and convoluted.
Didn’t think about this until recently, but Waternoose's twist reveal was hinted at during the very beginning of the movie. In the commercial he says "MI is prepared for the future" and "Research into new energy techniques." The footage shows a monster using VR during the second line to make you think that's what he meant, but he was really subtly hinting at the Scream Extractor operation
It’s a shame Jason Lee doesn’t voice more characters, he’s a really good actor
In my opinion, the best Pixar villain is Joy from Inside Out.
Seriously, her obsession with keeping Riley happy is both understandable and dangerous at the same time. It carries the film‘s themes perfectly while not making her unlikeable at all. She is the hero and the villain at the same time. And that’s what makes her so great.
That's deep dude
@@octomemes1451 Thank you, yes.
She’s not a villain at all
@@quangamershyguyyz7166 She supressed all other emotions, especially Sadness.
@@pjklockner5683thats kinda like calling Woody the villain of Toy Story because he tried killing Buzz, have you seen the second half of Inside Out where she learned that other emotions matter?
Idea: 5 Movies That Are Like Subnautica
List:
5. Finding Nemo
4. 20K Leagues Under The Sea
3. The Meg
2. The Abyss
1. Avatar The Way Of Water
For those who don't understand, Old Buzz is not the real Zurg
Rewatch the movie and you'll hear lots of hints showing how Old Buzz isn't Zurg
but that means sitting through the film again, and i really didn't enjoy it enough for that
If only they kept the idea of zurg being buzz’s father from Toy Story 2. Yet he’s still my G.O.A.T.
@@BuryMeWithVaporZurg is also the GOAT for me. He is my favourite villain ever!
I did pick up on it through the film but evidently 99% of people didn’t. Still doesn’t make the film good.
I knew Evelyn was the Screenslaver because in one scene, when her brother was playing the projector of the superhero damage-I believe that was what was going on-she appeared in the freaking shadow of the darkened room.
Don't her outfits also go from white to black over the course of the movie too? I could've sworn that was a thing.
@katherinesmallbean3594 From what I heard from one critic, that was another dead giveaway.
I think it would've been better if the Screenslaver had been a politician and wanted the supers gone because out one damage caused his or her family to be killed by one of the destructions caused by a superhero-but that was Buddy when he tried to be a hero and has caused damage that got ppl killed. This politician is so full of rage and fear that his/her new family would be killed again if supers were reinstated and decided to use technology to make the supers look bad. But there's a flaw in the system and now the Screenslaver kidnaps Evelyn, who also feels that ppl depend on supers too much but would never go as far as killing them but still wants to help her brother, but makes it look like she's the villain. But, she isn't.
1. Lotso
2. Syndrome
3. Ernesto De La Cruz
4. Randall Boggs
5. Anton Ego
6. Hooper
7. Charles Muntz
8. Stinky Pete
9. Mr. Waternoose
10. Chef Skinner
11. Al McWiggin
12. Sid Phillips
13. Dean Hardscrabble
14. Johnny Worthington III
15. Chick Hicks
16. AUTO
17. Jackson Storm
18. Darla Sherman
19. Gabby Gabby
20. Ercole
21. The Cursed Dragon
22. Thunderclap
23. Mordu
24. Professor Zundap
25. Screenslayer/Evelyn Deavor
26. Zurg/Buzz Lightyear
27. Miles Axelrod
Auto has been my favourite Disney/Pixar villain since I first watched Walle and still is. Though I 100% agree with your list because I like Syndrome just as much and wanted him to return in the second movie (don’t ask how, I don’t know).
My favorite villian is King Candy/Turbo. I love his voice and how good of a twist he was.
Who is Turbo?
@@mardenborough.The villain from Wreck-It-Ralph
Doesn't anyone find it weird that in all 2 of The Incredibles movies, every villain, major and miner, have no superpowers? Syndrome didn't have superpowers, The Underminer didn't have superpowers, Screenslaver also didn't have any superpowers. I think it would've been really interesting if the villain in The Incredibles 2 was a former super that turned on the people she once swore to protect because she sacrificed everything for the city, only for a law to be made that outlawed her and everyone like her. They wouldn't even need to change much, just make the Screenslaver be able to mind control people with powers instead of tech and change the backstory to match the character.
I would also like to know a little bit more on the origin of superheroes in that universe, as well as their powers. Were they government projects? Or something else entirely?
@@FranciscoPetrucioJunior Maybe it's like personality, we're just born with it, everyone has one, and all of them are different from one another. The powers of the Parr family match their individual personalities. Bob has super strength because he's headstrong and the foundation of his family, Helen is stretchy like elastic because she's adaptable and will become anything if it helps her family, Dash has superspeed because he's impulsive and energetic, Violet has forcefields and invisibility because she's shy and likes personal space, and Jack-Jack has everything because he holds the most potential for greatness.
It's interesting that there's countless Superheroes in the Incredibles world, but every Villain that we've seen, whether they be main antagonist or background character, are not "Super"Villains. More akin to Batman villains, people using gimmicks.
An argument could be made that Syndrome is a Super with genius intelligence, given his multitude of very technological gadgets, but it's certainly possible that his genius is mundane compared to being able to throw cars across a few blocks.
@@thesardonicrenegadeThen again even Batman has enemies with actual superpowers such as Clayface, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Solomon Grundy and Killer Moth after he sold his soul and became Charaxes. Copperhead sold his soul, too.
“being the only human Toy Story villain”
Well he isn’t
You gotta love basic writing flubs like that, lol.
Maybe it's just me, but if I ever worked at a daycare and saw a 2 year old playing with a toy like buzz lightyear or the potato heads, I'd try to get them away from the kids. Buzz is probably too advanced for a kid that age, and the potato heads are literal choking hazards.
With that bring said, I don't have much experience with kids.
Nah, nah, you're right. I'm a preschool teacher, and 1) those toys are definitely not safe/age appropriate, and 2) those teachers are doing absolutely terrible at their job if the kids are playing that rough. Toddlers gonna toddler, but part of our job is discouraging destructive behavior as early as possible. Kids who rip their toys apart will not fare well in higher levels of school
For me, the problem with Evelyn Deavor (Screenslaver) is that her motivation seems to conflict with her actions. She doesn't want heroes to come back but she helps her brother to bring them back. I get that it's for the twist but, we don't see any hints of villainy or shadiness from her, outside of her talk with Elastigirl about society, until she reveals herself in the third act. Not mention her reason for hating supers makes no sense. She hates them because her dad decided to call supers for help during a burglary but was killed, because supers were just outlawed. Why is she upset at them? It's not their fault he died. The supers were forced by the government to go into hiding and her father didn't know that so that's why he called. Even then, it was his choice not to call the police. I beat that if he called the cops instead, she'd probably be upset at them and not supers.
She was mad because her father trusted supers more than he trusted himself. Understand this: she believes people have blind trust in supers. Her father, despite having a godanm secret room, chose to try and call heroes that he knew were illegal. And about her helping her brother: her brother had money, influence, and a growing social support. Even if she didn't help him, he'd eventually succeed. She was just making sure he (and no one for that matter) was going to be able to do that
I mean Syndrome’s motivation was also pretty stupid when you think about. He basically mass murdered a bunch of retired heroes just because his favorite told him to get lost after he interfered and nearly got killed from getting involved in his extremely dangerous job while he was just a young kid.
@FranciscoPetrucioJunior that's still not the heroes fault. Her dad being an idiot is
@@FranciscoPetrucioJuniorthat's her father's fault for not installing the super phone INSIDE his panic room and instead near the front entrance for no fucking reason.
Maybe I’m old fashioned but Screenslaver and Zurg… should’ve just been… Screenslaver and Zurg? Not everything needs to be a twist or subversion. You can just have an evil villain or a giant scary robot with goals and morals you couldn’t possibly understand? When I saw the previews for Lightyear, I was so excited because Zurg looked fucking awesome. This giant towering, 13 foot menace. But no. He had to be some stupid lame twist in a boring as hell movie
I will say this about Incredibles 2: It handled feminism a lot better than the Barbie Movie did. In the Barbie movie, everyone was whiney and one sides, while in this one, you see a stay at home mother get back into the field and deal with the changes that comes with being a woman. But never did she assume her husband or any man she meets as a representation for all men.
49:11 uh... what? Pathetic need for profit? Man, he's in the hole. The city needs energy. The livelihood of hundreds and their families rely on him. Rely on the company staying open. If
Waternoose knew about the power of laughter, I have no doubt he'd have gone completely into that instead. Because he's not a villain because he has bad intentions, he's a villain because his desperation has pushed him to do horrible, inhumane things.
He was a villain for banishing Mike and Sully as well as trying to frame them at the end and before all that he was the one that banished Abnormable as reveled in Monsters at Work
@@nicholassims9837 yes, that is correct. That's why he's a villain. The desire to not go bankrupt is not villainous.
@@MasterofInterspace what makes him a villain is slienceing others like un fair banishments or frame ups
34:10 “Being the only human Toy Story villain” meanwhile earlier with Sid
54:45 Another point to Syndrome's design, this scene especially goes to show how Pixar can take a goofy design detail like buck-like teeth and still have creepy and disturbing scenes.
The reason Zurg was such a terrible villain in my opinion is because he suffers from the Same problem as the rest of the movie ignoring the previous buzz lightyear material that made the characters so popular to begin with the Toy Story series and even the lightyear cartoon spin off and in the cartoon series Zurg was a great villain because he had a great blend of a great voice actor good comedy and still manages to be threatening and the movie just throws it all away
42:58 So basically he's the food critic version of Armond White (excluding the part where he turns around after eating Ratatouille).
Syndrome is my favorite animated movie villain. He's a great mind that doesn't accomplish anything because of his own ego and his ego is second to none and that is what gets him destroyed in the end, he thinks he's the only one he needs while the Incredibles learn the value of teamwork and family.
talking about The Underminer
"He's a Minor villain"
Heh.
XD
Did you say that Thunderclap loses scary points... because he lost to a t-rex? That's saying Ghengis Khan is less successful a warrior since Oppenheimer said "look at this thing I made".
I love how you still try to bring up positives even with the lower entries on the list. It feels like you are giving each a shot and not instantly ripping on them
How about a villain ranking of Sony Pictures Animation and Don Bluth movies?
screenslaver was a few script edits away from being a damn good twist villain, shame that didn't happen
34:11 “Being the only human Toy Story antagonist.” Hadn’t you just reviewed Sid from the first movie?
he wasn't really a villain tbh he just a creative kid who crafts toys and he might be mean to his sister but that like every older sibling i guess
@L3gion_Mizuka25 He said antagonist, not villain. Yes, he was likely oblivious to his evil actions but he was still the "big bad" of the first movie. He was the main cause of the conflict in it.
another thing about auto that was it is following orders as the phrase "good soldiers follows orders" implies that it will do anything to prevent breaking the order its like order 66 aside from the jedi massacre that followed sue
I’m one of the few fans of incredible 2 but I really think the screensaver or underminer had way more potential as the villain than the one we actually got.
0:26 - Sir Miles Axlerod (Cars 2)
4:10 - Evelyn Douvor/Screenslaver (The Incredibles 2)
6:54 - Emperor Buzz (Lightyear)
8:27 - Thunderclap (The Good Dinosaur)
10:23 - The Underminer (The Incredibles)
12:13 - Chick Hicks (Cars)
14:04 - The Curse Dragon (Onward)
15:37 - Mor'Du (Brave)
17:06 - Johnny Wartington III (Monsters University)
19:02 - Jackson Storm (Cars 3)
21:24 - Abby Gabby (Toy Story 4)
23:44 - Ercole (Luca)
25:23 - Ernesto Del La Cruz (Coco)
27:54 - Lots-o Huggin' Bear (Toy Story 3)
30:18 - Sid (Toy Story)
32:15 - Dean Hardscrabble (Monsters University)
33:59 - Al (Toy Story 2)
35:39 - Chief Skinner (Rattatoile)
37:58 - Hopper (A Bug's Life)
40:28 - Charles E. Muntz (Up)
42:41 - Anton Ego (Rattatoile)
45:16 - Stinky Pete (Toy Story 2)
47:50 - Mr. Waternoose (Monsters Inc.)
49:42 - Randall Boggs (Monsters Inc.)
51:58 - AUTO (WALL-E)
54:07 - Syndrome (The Incredibles)
Someone should pin this comment to make it more easy for viewers
Hopper and Syndromes death traumatised me as a kid , which therefore makes them the best for me
I have some several villains I love
Examples:Lotso,Pete,auto,zurg and hopper
Thank you! Auto is so underrated
Who is more evil and better villain?
Hopper (Bug's Life) vs General Mandible (Antz)
Hopper.
Good video but I think Lotso is ranked too low. I'd rank him above Sid. I know what Sid mutilates all the toys but Lotso is more meancing and less reformable.
Also I'd rank Lotso above Dean Hardscrabble, yeah she is an antagonist to Mike and Sully but I wouldn't call her that much of a villain just a college administrator with a cold-hearted personality.
I'll be honest though that the top 10 all are ahead of Lotso. You made a good case for Al for example. Some like Syndrome, Randall, the Prospector and Waternoose are obvious top villians.
Honestly I think auto is kind of overrated it’s just for some reason he kind of angers me I mean he’s a really good villain and a decent wall for the heroes to overcome but the movie was so many great elements to it story They really dropped the ball with the bill and like when he has a rebuttal against captain be McRae he’s only just following his directive like why couldn’t he have his own personality like AI robots can make for such interesting villains but first a movie with so many great things to its name why would they stop with the freaking villain but I don’t think he’s bad he’s just not great I think he’s good
My ranking:
Emperor Buzz 2/10
Abby Gabby 2/10
Thunderclap 4/10
Ercole 5/10
Chick Hicks 5/10
Al 5/10
Evelyn Douvor/Screenslaver 5/10
Jackson Storm 5/10
Mor'du 5/10
Sid Philips 6/10
John Wartington III 6/10
Dean Hardscrabble (a.k.a. Principal Centepide) 6/10
The Underminer 6/10
Sir Miles Axelord 6/10
Professor Zundapp 6/10
Curse Dragon 6/10
Stinky Pete 7/10
Charles Muntz 7/10
AUTO 7/10
Anton Ego 8/10
Lots-o-Huggin' Bear 8/10
Mr. Waternoose 8/10
Ernesto Del La Cruz 8/10
Chef Skinner 9/10
Hopper 9/10
Randall Boggs 9/10
Syndrome 10/10
In all honesty, I see Mor’du as the embodiment of what people *think* bears are like. Evil, man eating, merciless and mindless killing machines. When in reality they’re quite the opposite.
Yes they attack us sometimes, and yes, sometimes, *very rarely* they do actually eat a human being. But it’s actually very rare for an attack to happen, let alone it be a predatory attack. Bears are more likely to run away from a person and just want to be left alone.
So I honestly really love Mor’du as a character and a villain. Even if he gets biased points from me because my favorite animal are bears 😅
PLEASE make a ranking of kaiju villians/monsters it will be an honor
Hahaha! Callin Al the "only human Toy Story villain". You didn't need to do Sid that dirty!
*honestly I thought the 1 spot would be the omnidroid, I understand why you picked syndrome. But why I think the omnidroid should be the number 1 spot for me is the fact that it reminds me of ultron from the mcu movie, where this artificial intelligence gets even more smart just like stark and even causing an island to rise and almost cause extinction. For the omnidroid it’s basically like ultron if he had no voice and had more of a ball. The omnidroid is able to learn from it’s previous models and even turned on its creator and the only thing that could defeat it is itself.*
Hopper... cold-blooded.
Syndrome is great! But there's just something MEAN about Hopper. Cruel and malicious.
Johnny Worthington lll reminds me of that guy from The Extremely Goofy Movie.
Anton Ego is one of the best redemption stories in all of Pixar when one remembers the sheer fundamental reason of becoming a food critic in the first place I call it The Nostalgic Comeuppance that finally removed his spiteful mentality at least for Gustau's
55:31 cough cough ᴱˡᵒⁿ ᵐᵘˢᵏ cough cough
6:34
Hell yeah, Feminism !! Same here, I a Demi-Asexual, Closeted Trans, Lesbian,
in a Transphobic, Acephobic, Family, which is Difficult… Anyway, It’s always nice to
see Feminism in Media~^^
22:34
Yeah…Those Dummy Henchmen are horrifying…
Also, anyone else remember the Plush Rush!?
28:04
Yeah, Lotso is like a Fascist dictator, that theory of Sunnyside Daycare being
like Auschwitz, and Lotso kinda gives that H!tl£r vibe… so yeah… I see that…
31:17
Babydoll headed…Robotic spider…Thing… Always terrified me…
It’s freaky… But you feel bad for it… Sid is a *_MENACE!!!_*
38:37
Hopper is definitely a seriously scary villain for a Kids movie…
And his death is horrific, especially to me, we don’t see it, but it’s obvious what happens, the Mother Bird
gave Hopper to her Baby Birds, they tore him apart and ate him alive as he screams…
43:50
I was waiting for this creepy Ego Food Critic, he is high up on the list. Exactly as I expected !!
46:03
Stinky Pete gaslighting… Yeah… I can feel that…
48:02
Mr Waternoose is _Definitely_ one of the best Pixar villains~
49:47
Randall, one of my *_FAVORITE_* Villains, he has such a creepy and cool vibe,
he can use Stealth, His basically a Chameleon, it’s soooooooo cool !!
{Like Chameleon + Millipede = Randall}
And I think his Scream capture Invention cause a Nightmare I had… Well his Invention
mixed with a Mind Brain sucking Machine, under a Kids Playplace… Yes this was a Dream I had
once… It was definitely scary…
3:56 is it bad that this example of the "bad comedy limper than a deflated tire" actually made me snicker? 😭 Something about the "ur good!!" kinda got me.
37:01 what skinner does in the movie even mirrors how Disney and Pixar operate nowadays
Francesco is less of a villain and more of a rival or opponent that taunts mcqueen. I found there back and forth pretty interesting honestly as even though they resort to those kind of remarks, he still does things fairly in order of sportsmanship. Too bad he wasnt the main focus as a "villain" and that the rest of the movie was terrible
The Incredibles 2 villain was so painful obvious it literally hurt
Did he say that the underminer didn’t have much to do with the story? He’s the reason the family got arrested and led them to take the offer from Winston out of desperation due to the fact that they were going to be homeless in 2 weeks
btw do you think that proffesor zundapp was a better villain then sir.miles axelrod?
This video has made me realize just how often Pixar incorporates the theme of 'never meet your heroes' into their movies, like godd-mn!? Just how many times can one company pull off the same theme in so many different ways and types of idols. From music singers to super heroes.
Miles Axelrod's entire plan it terrible, if he's selling a faulty fuel then the cars are gonna blame him! For example: if I started selling donuts that made people explode, they wouldn't blame donuts as a concept, they would blame my specific donuts. His career would be over no matter what he does!
But if he instead sold alternative fuel for real then he would probably make way more money!
12:07 hehe
"Miner" villain
do you know what really grinds my gears
Zurg's twist in Lightyear was my main gripe about the Lightyear movie. Admittedly I didn't like at first that Tim Allen wasn't going to voice Buzz and wasn't going to see the movie ever, but...I saw Zurg and my inner fangirl made me change my mind. :P And I actually liked the movie but maybe I'm simple to please, as someone who doesn't enjoy more mature films. I seem to like movies that most people absolutely hate, lol.
Side note:
There's actually a novel version of the movie as well, and in it, Zurg is not just a "man in mecha suit"; He's actually a giant robot. Though in the book, he's supposedly killed (for good) while in the movie, if you wait through the credits (ALL OF THEM), you'll see that Zurg survived his final battle against Buzz, as his eyes flash back on while floating in space.
If there's somehow a Lightyear 2, I hope to DEATH that Zurg is not "Old Buzz" again, and that he is his own entity once more. This was my fave design for him, twist aside, and I want to see more.
I would suggest ranking the Walt Disney Animation Studios villains next, but 1 - that would take such a long time to make, and 2 - you already made your top 5 best and worst of them.
No offense but Al McWiggin from Toy Story 2 is not the only human Toy Story Villian because isn't Sid from the first Toy Story film a human as well (I still love Pixar)
6:27 - 6.45
I've unsubscribed from your channel months before this video, and this moment doesn't make me regret that. This sounds like a pretentious jab at a film from someone who follows TV Tropes like a bible. The second film has a focal female hero and villain, so what? The first did the same but with the gender swapped. Not to mention Elastigirl being chosen over Mr. Incredible was contextualised by more consistent and less destructive history records - something unrelated to gender unless you try to disingenuously stereotype it.
Needless to say, it's bad-faith criticism pretending to sound intelligent or logically interpret something.
I agree, I love this guy’s and Shafrilla’s vids except when they decide to bring up real world politics when it’s not necessarry. It comes across like they’re trying to politicize these family movies that aren’t meant to be political and judging them on whether or not they feel validated by them. It’s an issue I have with right wing movie review channels too just keep your political opinions to yourself.
He is indeed a miner villain 👽
I seem to notice a pattern in the more down to earth villains always seeming to represent the commodification of some form of art or passion; toys, cuisine, racing, music, education, the only outlier has to be P. Sherman whose just sort of a jovial idiot.
During my first watch I thought that Syndrome actually was a Super. Having a superpower doesn't neccessarily have to be a physical one. Super intelligence is def a thing and I thought Syndrome had it. Think about it, he not only made enough extraordinary technology and gadgets to fund his big ass company AND island. But he did this in 15 years!! He build his empire in 15 years! That is insane. If the movie would have had a twist in the end where it's revealed that Syndrome is in fact a Super, I would have bought it immediately.
Nevertheless, the movie is fantastic as it is!
Agreed. As the years passed since the movie was new, I started to come to that conclusion too.
Super power by default is usually more than the ordinary. You can argue that intelligence is a super power but with syndrome he's in the same level as Richthofen from BLack ops Zombies, they're IQ smart in human level but compared to Brainiac or Flash who are basically living computers are beyond human smarts
I must be the only one who genuinely liked Evelyn Deavor/Screenslaver lol
I’m surprised that AUTO managed to make it so high up. Though I think it could have made AUTO more interesting if it tried to come up with a counter argument with the captain for why the Axiom can’t return to Earth as a more sociological attempt to follow its orders. Like say, they can’t go back because one single plant isn’t enough to sustain a human population when it’s the only sign of life in an otherwise dead planet. Or that humanity will just repeat the same mistakes twice making no difference in the end, so the Earth just might better off without humans.
If you have the curse dragon why isnt Terry from Soul included ?
Screenslaver is such a dumbass villain. Like, her motivations dont make sense, she blames superheroes for her father's death, but like, her dad was the one that wanted to be saved by heroes, he died bc they were outlawed by the government. They should have put like, her dad had an argument with a hero and the hero killed him or smth
Here's another clue that hints that Axelrod wasn't electric And that's the fact that he is 2010 Land Rover Which at the time there weren't any electric Land Rovers
Your avatar has no bussiness being that cute, like wtf
Screenslaver could have been neat if there was no twist or the twist was that he didn't exist as anything more than a performance about super heroes and whatnot :v