The Art of Memory: Is It Really The 5-Star Memory Improvement Book Some People Claim?
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- The Art of Memory is one of the most successful memory improvement books.
But is it any good?
Is it even really a memory improvement books at all?
Above all, did Frances Yates use mnemonics herself?
We're taking a deep dive into one of the most popular books on memory of all time.
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Video Chapters:
0:17: 📚 Intro to the 'The Art of Memory' by Francis A. Yates, who never tried the memory techniques she wrote about.
2:43: 🤔 Questions about being a writer contributing to good memory.
4:45: 📚 Various mnemonic strategies and their connection to Giordano Bruno's cosmological ideas, with some disagreement regarding whether Bruno was a Hermeticist.
7:02: 📚 The Art of Memory is a valuable resource for learning about the history of memory techniques, but may not be the best for improving memory skills.
9:50: 💡 The art of memory is a craft, science, and martial art of the mind that involves critical thinking and using memory to make better decisions and solve problems quickly.
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Interesting as ever.
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Maaaaaaan, it looks like the stars are aligning for me 💪🏻😎
I was about to start reading Frances Yates from cover to cover. So far, I only read a few chapters here and there about Llull and Giordano Bruno.
But instead of drowning in theory and descriptive stuff, I think your recommandation of tackling (more seriously) the fundamentals wIll be my priority for now.
I still firmly believe that the Art of Memory is a classic and should/must be read by anyone being serious about the mnemonics tradition.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the hermeticism links Dr Yates tried to establish between the Memory Masters, especially Bruno.
I personally think it was overexposed and overexagerated.
The same point of view was shared in one of your podcasts with Scott Gosnell.
That's basically what I suggest in this video review.
Things like hermeticism are coming back into vogue, and have a seductive power, perhaps due to placebo effects and confirmation bias.
As for the stars aligning, for those who love memory, I do all I can to keep our "solar system" of mnemonists and techniques rolling through the video skies... it's a full-time effort and thanks as ever for your support of the initiative!
Marsha Keith Schuchard has written on similar topics.
Restoring the Temple of Vision: Cabalistic Freemasonry and Stuart Culture
Masonic esotericism and politics: the "ancient" Stuart roots of Bonnie Prince Charlie's role as hidden Grand Master
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Glad to show my support whenever I can 👍🏻
Congrats on another video that did not disappoint AT ALL.
Frances Yates made phenomenal contributions to the Ars Memoriae and its revival, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be critical about what she wrote.
I myself felt like the esoteric and hermetic claims linked to the Ars Memoriae were exaggerated and lacked convincing proofs.
I'm more with Scott Gresnel on this matter than John Michael Greer, who is regardless of this disagreement, nothing short of brilliant.
I hope you get to interview Mary Carruthers anytime soon Dr Metivier. She's 82 now, and I have no doubt that a podcast with her will be as enjoyable and informative as the ones with Lynne Kelly, Tyson Yunkaporta, Martin Faulks etc... if not even more MEMORABLE 😊
Sounds interesting and thanks for mentioning it.
How much specifically would you say is devoted to practicalities of the art of memory? A review I've just read says that it's interesting but quite speculative on many matters.
Thanks @TheBigSavvyBoss.
I'll see if I can get hold of her, but Im expecting it might not be an option. Especially with so many other things going on and my slightly OCD need to... you know... actually prep for the majority of the interviews I do.
Hi Anthony, what intellectual habit can we do in free time that doesn't take so much energy and foucs ?
Love your work ❤️
Thanks for your kind words.
I’m not aware of anything that doesn’t require a high quality of focus. Trying to dodge being focused is the opposite of the MMM’s mission for enjoying a fully exercises mind.
Regarding energy, using memory techniques properly will reduce unnecessary expenditure. And thanks to the excitement and pleasure using memory creates, it basically feels like it’s creating more energy than you’re burning.
So using memory techniques while reading is what I’s recommend, and if focus and energy are approached as problems when they are actually solutions, perhaps solutions will be found elsewhere. Diet, exercise, sleep, etc.
Does this way of looking at things help you out?
Read, fiction, non-fiction, any reading is good.
I would like to ask you, Mr. What is the best way to get rid of negative thoughts? Is it by not looking at their details and not analyzing them, or defining them and understanding the essence of the problem?
As a matter of fact, I gave tips on that in this TEDx Talk:
th-cam.com/video/kvtYjdriSpM/w-d-xo.html
I go deeper into more angles on the strategy in a book called The Victorious Mind.
You've got so many books in your background! Did you read all of them?
There are very few that I haven't read. Sometimes people send me books for review on this show without thinking about the kinds of topics covered here and such books may go unread.
I wish I could see the titles of all of the books on your shelves.
What would you do with the list if you could?
Hello, do you think mnemonics are required? It is only required when we don't know the reason behind any word. When we know the reason of anything or any word behind it then mnemonics have less importance. What you say Anthony metivier
I am aware of no Mnemonic Police that ever require their use.
But the best of the best have used and continue to use mnemonics. If they're good enough for everyone from Aristotle to Ricky Jay, they're good enough for me.
I also think that this is partially correct. There are two types of learning. Passive learning which is similar to just listening or reading and there is active learning which is similar to practicing or doing some exercises or home work. Active learning is much better than passive learning as Confucius said "I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand" but I believe there is still no reason for not using mnemonics. One extra good thing is 2 good things
Hyperphantasia I just started reading about it, I think I do have it I am able to recall images in my head but I'm not as good as Mike Ross, I can recall entire floor plans from houses I went to a once years ago or my trachers classrooms from middle school (I'm graduated)
Is there a way to get tested or see if I actually do?
My fullest discussion of the aphantasia issue and how I started seeing images is here:
th-cam.com/video/y0Z88TSKejw/w-d-xo.html
Hope it helps you out!
Cant wait for the premier but i have a question?could you combine memory palaces with higher orders of blooms taxonomy such as applying analyizing and evaluating information and if so?how would you go about doing it.i know this is irrelevant but i think its an interesting concept.and i also want to thank you for the amazing work you do.apologies for copying the comment. I just really want to hear your answer on this.
I would suggest exploring a Memory Wheel that has the taxonomy on it. There's an example of something similar here:
th-cam.com/video/Opmb-mU-KPI/w-d-xo.html
It's pretty shocking that Yates claims to have not even used the Palaces. If any other author said something like that about their own subject....?
LoL
Problem is that since guild culture was replaced with “enlightenment” era schools, a vast number of institutions are packed with “teachers” who cannot do what they are teaching.
I don’t mention this in the video, but she also seems not to have understood that Bruno eventually uses (more or less) standard Memory Palaces in favor of the Memory Wheel. I’m not convinced he ever used Memory Wheels for memory anyway, apart from generating images, but even in his book on statues, that use is gone.
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I recall in one of your replies to my comments that you mentioned the mnemonics of Giordano Bruno, and that they were right there hiding in plain sight!
Obviously someone who never used the techniques wouldn't have recognized them duh.
Can't wait for your new book on the infinite memory palace of Giordano Bruno to come out, or the course, or both 😀.
I'll take everything.
But maybe you should consider as part of your projects to rewrite the Art of Memory, adjusting things where we think Frances Yates went astray (sometimes even blunt and not respectful) and getting even deeper into the interpretation of the tradition and its great Masters, especially with what we have in hand now: the works of Hugh of Saint Victor, the books of Giordano Bruno, a better understanding of Aristotle's account on memory and recollection etc
And the best of all, it will be an Art of Memory written by a true practitioner and expert of the art 🔥
Thanks for this.
I basically do a bit of responding to what she did in the Bruno book. I also thought of calling it "The New Art of Memory," but the Bruno book is really about the implications I see in Bruno for people who use memory techniques - including outcomes to avoid.
There is also already a book called "The New Art of Memory"... maybe if I do one with that title I will call it Ye Olde Arte of Memoria...
But I have other ideas, as you know, including putting memory into novels and so on. It's just super-complicated and very hard to make sure it's worth reading.
Plus, I've got a new game I've been working on since 2017 that I finally figured out how to make work. I can't believe it took me so long to see it, but I finally had the insight that made it work.
Coming soon!
All memory techniques are good but only for short term not for long term
Thanks, but not true. I just had two hours of conversation in German and most of my vocab and turns of phrases used the MMM. And I can chant dozens of slokas, songs and poems anytime you like, not to mention hapax legomenon, all thanks to mnemonics.
Just not as discussed in The Art of Memory for the reasons explained in this video.
Thanks for replying. Which is your best MMM book ?
The Victorious Mind has generated the most amount of reviews and interesting results for people serious about mastering their memory. It's on Amazon.
Do you think Kabbalah's Tree of Life was a memory system?
Even if it wasn't deliberately used as a mnemonic system, it's spatial characteristics completely correspond to why and how the Memory Palace technique works.