What They Don't Tell You About Orcs - D&D
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What they don't tell about Oni? One thing I can tell is they and ogres inter-bred an new species of monster known as ogrima
A Demonic-Orc Lord Riding A Red-Shadow Dragcolich With an army of Orc-death knight
...This is how one of my player Who was A Half-orc paladin Became After starting A war With the Gods Who Want him to sacrifice his wife to save their portfolio and promote their religion
it was Fun DM-ing a campaign about slaying a dragon that turned into a war against the god's
should do tieflings soon
The cat was the best piece of lore ive ever saw lol
it was a displacer beast
I just assumed it was my internet being bad again, so I tabbed back over and saw a cat staring at me. Good times.
Yep! El Gato stole it.
"orcs reject notions of racial purity, they proudly welcome ogres trolls, half-orcs..." ... and CATS :)
I thought I was seeing things lol glad someone mentioned it.
12 years old human: I need an adult.
12 years old orc: I am an adult!
36 year old me: I need an adult!
@@BNRmatt you've stumbled on the horrible truth of human existence - there are no adults. Only children who somehow grew old.
@@BNRmatt 36 year old orc: I am an Elder Warrior ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Omg.. I laughed too damn hard at this
12 year old elf :Googo gaaga
>>looks at title.
>>looks at length.
a lot apparently.
Huge let down...I love D n D but Warhammer and 40k Orks just shit all others.
@@nofuxgivens2797
Well, Warhammer's Greenskins (no matter if Fantasy, 40k, or Age of Sigmar) are literally Mushroom Monsters that burst from the ground and reproduce pretty much by Budding. No need for unfortunate implications towards rape and such, when Orcs literally just exist to fight and kill.
@@nofuxgivens2797 Why do Warhammer fans gotta boast about the most arbitrary things everywhere they go?
@@ChiefBloodrain because I love being annoying.
@@ChiefBloodrain Because fanboys are assholes
Grey Orcs: Even savages have standards.
Mountain Orcs: WAAAAAGH!!
Embrace the WAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH!!!
Reject Humanity. Return to WAAAAAAAGH!!!
3.5 Orogs: Ugh... surface plebians. Hand me my copy of "The Art of WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!" please and the finest lichen wine.
I would like, but I don't want to tamper with perfection.
So instead;
**WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!**
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
"Orcs gather in tribes that exert their dominance and satisfy their bloodlust by plundering villages, devouring or driving off roaming herds, and slaying any humanoids that stand against them. After savaging a settlement, orcs pick it clean of wealth and items usable in their own lands."
So, they're basically adventurers?
Yes but there ugly so it’s worse
@@hanster.gun.3438 So, they are adventurers, but they all look like back-of-the-house employees?
@@hanster.gun.3438 Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
They used to be, but they took an arrow to the knee.
@@donaldcarey114
Haha!! Damn dragons could swoop down at any time
I didn't know the common housecat had a lore tie-in with the orcs, thank you MrRhexx. That is truly something that you don't see in the monster manual.
Could've been a Taborc. 😆
The housecat is one of the most dangerous animals mountain orcs use to guard their homes.
It is said a cat is what is born when a troll and a tribble mate 😏
ha
OH NO, the dreaded attack by the god "cat" that appears in so many DnD games! They show up out of nowhere, and encompass a large part of the map. Impossible to defeat, and can destroy any party member (by knocking them over, or to the floor)
In our campaign we are constantly harassed and fucked with by some greater eldritch diety that takes the form of a cat. He plunges us from plane to plane and restores us from death with severe mental breakdowns
The catrasque has taken appears many timesim our campaigns. Demanding nip and treats
Truely the most powerful diety, and the gods intervention is completely random
Play with cats in Dwarf Fortress to witness true horror, then.
Rhexx: *Blazing through his script for Orcs.*
Domestic Tabaxi: *WAAAAAAAAAAAGGH!!!*
That's a rabbit hole you don't really want to go in
the grater WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
WEZ NEEDZ A WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH BOYZ!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!*
MrRhexx you missed the entire race of Ondonti Orcs. They're technically extinct but like most things in D&D, it was written open ended. There were 13 tribes of peaceful Ondonti orcs living under the worship of Eldath the godess of peace until the Zhentarim came and collected them for slaves. Supposedly there's still 1 tribe hidden in the Shattered Lands though.
Good campaign for a half orc would be stirring those peaceful slave Orcs into rebellion. Hmm I might try and run that thanks for the idea bro
I was scrolling through some Orc lore to see if I couldn’t find some logical way to have an orcish/half-orcish Paladin of Eldath (that didn’t just leave their tribe), I’m actually stunned. I’m 100% stealing this, thank you so much my friend. You have saved me many more hours of scrolling.
This made me think about something I've never thought about before. In Disney's Sleeping Beauty Maleficent had an army of pig soldiers under her. But now I realize those were Orcs.
They might be an orc/goblin mix since they are tiny.
One is also missing an eye.
@@BlazingAzureTheta Orcs and Goblins were one and the same. The modern Orc is largely a mix between the LOTR Orc (which was really more what we would think of as a Goblin) and the Uruk-Hai (which are super soldier Orc and Elf half breeds).
Edit: I've been made aware that I'm mistaken, please don't take this comment as a source on uruk hais
@@Yous0147 technically, in the Hobbit (the book) they were goblins. Orc was the hobbit (race and cultural) word for goblin at first, but as time went on, he wrote them as the separate races within the same species. Hence the separation between Goblin Town and the Orc army, plus the descriptions slowly becoming different as time went on. It's very interesting, I could write a whole thesis on it just from the four core books and the silmilarilan.
@@pakkenpk5598 2 core books and silmarillion (just being dumb because technically LOTR is one book)
My orc character is an orc who’s adopted by a wizard. The orc is a sorcerer but is so dumb it believes it’s a wizard.
What does he chant when he casts fireball? I need to know.
@@lillyapidastra8759 probably waaargh waagh
@person person This. I will use this for my next Sorcerer.
They prefer wild game over humanoids.*
*Except Halflings, never pass up a nice juicy Halfling.
Are Halflings even worthy of being called humanoids, though?
If anything, they’re just fat, hairless badgers - they even live in borrows!
- Some Orc, probably
@Kat Murphy yeah you do have some hair
I can totally see orcs considering creatures below 4 feet fair game. Also, I imagine Halflings taste rather good by humanoid standards for some reason.
@@sandwichmonster7067 "Short Pork"
Especially the legs... They don't need their legs...
Thanks for leaving in your cat interrupting you. That made my day.
Me the whole time: Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww- Yes. Ahem... Orcs.
24:09
The Fighter: Agh those claws
The Sorcerer: Agh that face
The Bard: Ooh that body
That face and those claws would stop a freight train right in its tracks, but that body. Mmmm delicious.
Bard: *"I like'em Large and Extra T H I C C"*
@@shellknight1323 is aku a bard?
That bard must really have a long nails fetish
I know this is really late but...
To be honest aside from the freakishly long nails and gargoyle face, that she orc does have a rather nice, toned but not too muscular HOT body. Those thighs look like they could crush puny human skulls with ease! (just gotta cover up that face..)
Gruumsh One-Eye: "You have captured many slaves, slaughtered many of the other races, won many victories!"
Orc: "Actually we lost the past three battles, half the horde is dead."
Grummsh One-Eye: "Those were not defeats, they were trials of strength! Now my followers must breed indiscriminately...but not with Elves!"
Orc: "No hot Elf women? Damn...What do we do with them?"
Gruumsh One-Eye: "Sacrifice them to me to prove your strength! Frailty and weakness are not part of my people!"
Orc: "Okay..."
Gruumsh One-Eye: "Now, as a bonus, if you pluck out one of your eyes I might give you magical powers!"
Orc: "That's a pretty big risk for a 'maybe.' Having two eyes really helps with the depth perception when I'm raiding. Doesn't that make me more vulnerable?"
Gruumsh One-Eye: "Fine! No slim chance of magical spells for you. Behold, a harem of trolls and ogres!"
Orc: "F--- this, I'm gonna worship Bane...or maybe Cyric, He's not this crazy."
Gruumsh One-Eye: "I heard that!"
Canonically the horniest race of them all.
Kobolds make a close second. Their mating cycle occurs every 40 days.
@@Nyrufa yeah but, generally they tend to be less about pleasure about it. Kobolds it's more casual sméx for the sake of reproduction rather than relief of libido.
The reason I know the meaning of the word “fecund” was from reading the description of orks in the first edition as “belligerent, invasive, and fecund”.
@@andrewjohnson6716 Hilarious.
"The Porks never evolve." My GM starting something he wasn't prepared to defend from all sides.
I mean he isn't wrong given that a lot of these races seem to just be divinely made.
Orc lore: *rape is swept under the rug*
Also orc lore: torture, genocide and slavery? Yeah that's cool, that's fine.
2020 everyone
well, one of those thing isn't fun for game sessions
@@icekitty11 and torture and slavery are? Things like torture rape and other heinous actions imo are all equally good ways to start conflict and to make the bad guys more menacing and hateable. If I hear in my dnd game that some orcs have been doing these disgusting things, my barbarian character will more than happier to save the day and beat the orcs in to a fleshy green pulp.
Yeah I don't got a problem with it, love myself some actually monstrous monsters
Rape is a lot more uncomfortable and personal for most, and I think it's a lot more likely for someone who has been raped in the past to play D&D than victims of the other things (and, this should go without saying, but people generally don't like being reminded of extremely traumatic events in their life)
"OI BOIZ, WE GIT DA BIGGUNS IN DIS ER...WAAAAAAGH!!!"
Dude, your videos are of such high quality! They make me feel like I'm watching a documentary and even the longer ones can hold my attention until the end without getting boring, kudos to you, keep up the good work!
half-orc: "I'm only a half-orc so I need to work very hard to earn my place in the tribe"
orc: "dang, that guy's really good at fighting and pillaging"
orc chief: "I'm going to make that guy my right-hand man"
also 34:48 the first edition Ogre Mage art here is hilarious
You mean at 34:14 - 34:20 ?
Oddly enough, orcs seem more accepting of half-orcs than elves of half-elves
@@asdfghjk1576 duhhh, elves are elvees for a reason
"Have you heard of the high elves?"
Orcs have been, and will always be my favorite D&D race, and I always play a half orc, or an orc if permitted.
The feature "aggresive" is very orcish. I prefer it more than "savage attacks".
Orcs are my favorite fantasy race! I especially like how varied they can be. You can have savage orcs, honor-bound orcs, civilized orcs, beastrider orcs, fanatic orcs, and anything else you can think of all in the same gameworld and it won't feel strange.
Heck, AJ Pickett even made a video about how to include WH40K orcs in a DnD campaign.
My favorite take on Orcs is that of Orsimer from "The Elder Scrolls." D&D is cool and all, but it feels more like you're being railroaded to have them just be mindless mooks at times.
I kinda thought the same of the orsimer. Sure they have smithing going for them, but they get stereotyped really hard as brutes and very little else. Never played TES 3 or 4 so maybe they have more interesting orsimer NPCs I'm not aware of.
I like to create worlds where no creature(aside from celestials and demons) is inherently good or evil, though can still be self centered pricks. Hell I like to make some hybrids, like orc/solar angel, orc/elf, ghoul/elf, a half human thats a genasi, but the djinn parent is a hybrid of two random djinn races and the genasi inherits aspects of both djinn grandparents.
@@ShadowPa1adin
Only if you’re not willing to let them be more than that!
The beauty of D&D is that the rules and lore is guides, not definitive.
You’re allowed to make all sorts of exceptions to the rules and create new tribes and races!
@@anthonyrowlodge5357 totally agree, i lean in the societal based evil and good. In my world all races have the same range of evil and good, if a different distribution along that range, for instance a mind flayer caring for things less intellegent than it is more uncommon than other creatures being good natured but they still can and most humanoid races are going to be good or bad based on societal pressures and individual experience
"... In fact, a 12 year old orc is concidered an adult, for all intents and purposes..." Dwarf Fortress be like that
Humans through most of history: "How is that unusual?"
Ayyy another fellow player 😄
Praise be to Armok
@@tylerdavault9604 Kind of narcissistic, but ok XD
@@voxlknight2155 the legendary jumping spider man with 5 shields would like to have a word 🤣
Discord Moderators be like.
'These figurines are LITERALLY sick.'
* Proceeds to let his cat lick said sick and presumably contagious figurine *
You, Monster! X(
Rhexx cat: I HUNGER HUMANOID!
D&D Orc:We can tame and ride polar bears
Elder Scrolls Orc:Wait we can do that!?
Warhammer Orks: You see my cart goes fast because it is painted red!
Level 60 WoW orc riding a giant undead dragon: PATHETIC.
I have an idea for my own fictional world where Orcs rule a massive empire due to being master aviators. It’s purely as a Porco Rosso reference.
*What They Don't Tell You About Cats - MrRhexx* .
I demand cat video neow.
So does this tabaxi tempest cleric..
You posted this as soon as I started thinking about d&d
Same
You too think about DnD all the time?
The real trick is to just never stop thinking about D&D
@@TheRevanpl Yes, I do.
I hope you do something interesting for Christmas like holidays in the DnD universe
Thats a cool idea
I agree!! This a fantastic idea.
Great idea 👌
The EGTW has a bunch of holidays
All you need to know about Orcs; "Zug Zug"
"Quit poking me."
ME NOT THAT KIND OF ORC
Bakshaa!
Dabooo!
"Something to doing?"
Bogloss!
Lol "reproduce". That's one way to say it.
@starshipeleven nahh they rape
The snuggle with a struggle.
@@johannesvonmalos7505 am I going to hell because this got a laugh out of me? na probably the other thing
@@SpaceElvisInc probably dont worry though ill bring the snacks.
@@johannesvonmalos7505 Definitely going to hell for laughing at that
With all this in mind, then with stuff like Dream of the Blue Veil and Spelljammer, imagine the sheer culture shock a Faerfunian would experience in a a world like Eberron.
In his world, an Orc is a vicious creature no better than a beast. But here, the Orc over there might be a celebrated war hero who is venerated for saving multiple civilian lives during the Last War. The sheer WTF energy he would be experiencing would be unfathomable.
Orcs have been one of my favorite minions since Shadow of Mordor. The "Middle Earth: Shadow" games really fleshed out the idea of a pragmatic mastermind turning them into an effective war machine with a little help from magic, as well as allowing a look into the politics and lifestyle of an orcish community
Gotta give head pats for your cat's contribution!
For some reason I want to know about humans. I just really do.
Humans...they are fucking everywhere the end.
@@adorablecockroach5131 only downfall human dark vision
Any plans on doing an episode about the Astral Plane? I think that'd be a pretty cool topic to explore
The Golden tether.... If you get a chance to read the older sets, though many rules have changed, Travelling in the astral plane is described rather well in the "Immortal" set from the 80's
I favor this. Descriptions of the Astral Plane are always vague and simultaneously a fantasy take on human altered consciousness. Or super-consciousness. Or sub-consciousness. I don't know. :P
He already did
@@Zeri_is_Waifu He did one about "space" and one about Astral Dragons, but not one specifically about the Astral Plane.
@@jessicachannel3098 Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look into those!
I am going to bring back the pig faced Orcs for my future campaigns. I really love the aesthetic of old school fantasy.
I wonder what a half-dragon orc would look like, how would the stats go together?
In 5e? Just apply the half dragon template onto the orc of your choice
Pig dragon
Dragonblood sorcerer half orc with out the magic.
I imagine they’d look hella badass
@@sandwichmonster7067 *adds another character to the stack*
“What is best in life, Conan?”
“To crush your enemies; drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of women.”
“This is good!”
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One sees a lot of comments on orcs’ practices being “problematic” or “unfortunate.”
Orcs are not problematic: they are carnal creatures. They do night raids with NO TORCHES and no parley. The word you’re looking for is SCARY!
They are VIKINGS!
"orcs are a staple of medieval fantasy."
ah yes, the floor is made out of floor
ah yes, water is wet
Fire indeed hot
Floors are not made out of “floor”
Jhuan V. Sales water is only wet if you’re not totally submerged in it.
Hiro Fedora fire is only hot in perspective
"NOBODY likes orcs!"
*looks at Borky the Orcy from Unexpectables*
Me: we sure about that?
It’s time to get orky
As someone who read most of Salvatore's books, I was really happy to hear king Obold being mentioned
I'm happy that you posted this video, i read countless people complain about how orcs and drow are treated like our real life races for some reason. As a DM it makes me think about using orcs or any evil race now... Thanks to your video I'll be sure to let my players know about the 4 races of Orcs in D&D.
It’s not a bad thing that this discussion is brought up, because it IS regressive to believe a whole race of people would be a monolith, because it suggests that your genetics dictate your personality and behaviour into basic things like good or evil.
Of course there’s the gods and all that, but that’s a writing issue trying to plug up holes in lazy/misguided world-building decisions, sure you can say they’re evil because of their gods, but the comparison to real-life racism can’t be erased that easily.
What I’m saying is; don’t be afraid to branch out and explore other options, maybe the races AREN’T inherently evil, but its their culture that guides them to these decisions, and maybe there’s more to them that what’s known. Don’t let what’s written stop you from thinking about these implications, cause they’re gonna be there unless something changes about how we see fantasy stuff like this.
TLDR; Old Dnd is racist af, so it’s not a bad thing to change stuff
@@sky-blue9450 as a DM i have always mentioned that's how they are raised to be evil, there are exceptions of course. I base this in the books of R.A salvatore, No drow is BORN evil. But most societies are evil inclined.
I love adding GOOD communities of Orcs/drow in some far away hidden places, but these are the exceptions, the beauty that if you are raised with love and care you can be a great person and not a douchebag orc/drow that wants to kill and enslave. Remember the goddess eilistraee, she wants drows to grow in kind loving places like that :}
@@Kyser666 Exactly and it's a great way to throw your players off and teach a lesson. 😄
@@Kyser666 that’s wonderful to hear! Like I said (or at least implied), a beings race shouldn’t determine who they are, it doesn’t happen for humans so why should it be different for fantasy races? It’s all about culture and the environments these people learn to live in, and that’s what makes world-building so interesting!
I’m glad to hear that you’re already aware on how to make a world more diverse and interesting, simply by showing that there ARE outliers. It’s a step in the right direction within this very complex discussion, so good on ya dude.
Alternatively just go the Berserk route and make it "This, too, lies within the currents of Causality".
Love the cat meows
Me to, it came out of nowhere.
The lord of light himself took the eye of the Orc's principal deity. That's why they have the minor penalty in sunlight.
If you want to take my awsome elf-orcs, you'll have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
What they don’t tell you about Orcs?
*That orcs are sexy*
This is probably the strangest thing. In a lot of japanese fantasy orcs are literally just pigs, pink to brown skin with normal piggish features or boar features. I originally thought it was just an artistic choice but I guess there are definitely some potential origins if Dnd also pushed the idea of Orcs being basically pigs too.
4:33 What a fancy way to say that he declares WAAAGH!
I love the term “Citizen Ork” lol.
WOOOOOW that part about the grey orcs and the portal reminds me ALOT of WoW and the darkportal/draenor
26:20 I understand that these are uncomfortable topics, but i think that the 5e lore for the half-orcs is a bit too lame.
yea like for characters that are half orcs one of the biggest thing is well saying it bluntly "were you a product of rape?" how does that effect your character? does that drive them in some way, like I got two ideas in my head right now along. like the idea of a half orc rouge that goes around to orc encampments trying to free slaves to save people from the fate of their mother sounds like a solid start for a character background
@That Guy I can imagine making a Half-orc who has guilt as a driving motivation. Imagine being born as a Half-orc but you are raised by a loving mother. The fact that your beloved mother only birthed you because she was violated by raiding orcs might make you feel guilty for being born. Instead of becoming a villain, you become a paladin of Torm so that you can protect the innocent and fight the depraved.
I understand the aversion but I find most people are just too squimish around the subject. Rape is a bad thing obviously but the topic shouldn't be avoided in a game like DnD when you're being emersed in the world.
Now there's obviously taking it too far as I've seen in PLENTY of horror stories where it's fetishized by dms or players against other players, but... Come on they're orcs, and the world is full of assholes who take slaves, it's gonna happen.
Its because 5e is talking about Gray Orcs and not Mountain Orcs for the potential origin of half-orcs. Its not like 5e has completely retconned that specific origin for the race, it just gives players another possible origin for there character. Was your half-orc character a product of Mountain Orcs raiding human settlements or were they a product of an alliance between Gray Orcs and human barbarian tribes? Hell, maybe your character is second or third generation half-orc and your character comes from a tribe/community of half-orcs. For me personally, not restricting a characters origin to one thing is always a good thing in a roleplaying game.
@@smuggrog9821 But why would they talk about the grey orcs when they aren't even in the same continent as 5E? It all just feels like oversensitiveness being hamfisted into a race that should be unabashedly evil.
Suprise cat pictures! 🐈😍
Sidenote:
You, sir are a treasure throve of lore 😃.
Wish I had found this channel sooner, I love the enthusiasm you do your videos with, keep it up man 👍.
Always loved orcs and half orcs. Hope to see videos on half breeds
Yes! Make a video about how races like tieflings work
That would be a welcome category, not just the inclusion of the half-breed as an aside in it's 'parent' entry.
@@pixelcat5725 Bards or warlocks play with a devil
So you've done elves and now orcs.
Dwarfs next? :D
I believe he's done Halflings and Gnomes also. I think he did do Dwarves, but I'm not sure and don't care to check at the moment. 😅
He also did Kobolds
@@ravenholm9166 Well Kobolds aren't one of the classic 5 races of D&D, but yes he did. I voted for him to on Patreon. 😉
@@megamanx466 He has not done dwarfs.
Been eagerly waiting as they're my favorite race.
"rockeaters"
Makes a campaign based around players being different breeds of mountain Orc that are on an endless quest to bring the deadliest pets back to their tribe’s lair
Lore on the dwarves would be the best thing ever!
when the cat showed up I lost it. Like a reverse jumpscare.
Shouldn't use it in my game?
Let's see the bard try to sleep his way out of this situation:
The chief takes such a liking to the bard, the chief would like a clever son just like him.
Except the chief feels like getting a female to actually submit is the bard's problem, and also hilarious.
I shall call the adventure "Death or Snoo Snoo".
You have my respect sir
I'm going to keep this in my back pocket for the next "I roll to seduce" bard I get in a game.
@@BNRmatt I suggest the rest of the party gets long rests, can trade and restock equipment, generally have a good but unremarkable time. Then let the other players play the orcets if they want to.
Have them challenge the bard to all sorts of things bards aren't good at, but orcs are. Like wrestling, hunting, lifting heavy things, face punching, farting the loudest, etc.
If the bard starts the next adventure at 1/2 hit points, and at least two levels of exhaustion, while the rest of the party are as fresh as spring chickens, you did it right.
The idea is the snoo-snoo is inevitable, but this is one of the few times the females get to be dominant. So they make it fun... for themselves at least.
If the bard remains a good sport, throughout the entire ordeal, he makes a lifelong friend of the tribe. Some of his kids might even come to visit, to learn from Papa in a few years.
(Spoilers):
Death or death by snusnu.
Idk sounds meh more like the bard is the one who just wants to get laid no matter what that's why he came to the orcs but the chief is confused and is giving him the benefit of the doubt
Personally, while I find the 'rapey' aspect of their culture to be pretty nasty, I do think it makes for an interesting kind of conflicted character for a half-orc. Maybe it's just my own personal flair for complexity, but I think it makes a character more interesting if trying to be good, or darker if trying to be evil.
Or maybe it's just because I like to factor the psychology of a character into their motivations and actions more than most folks do.
@insrtcowjoke You're right..... while listening to the video it was very cringe for him to say "you shouldn't be including that in any roleplays" ..... like, wait, what? You can burn down entire villages with people inside them..... you can raise corpses by necromancy of tortured victims...you can destroy kingdoms by betrayal.... you can commit genocide... you can tie peoples' bones to your shoulders....... and that's all fine for roleplays.... but you can't write evil people doing rape? Why? All of the above are worse than rape... why allow all of them but not the latter?
@@laertesindeed Do not take this as me disagreeing with you, for in fact I do agree. However, the probable reasoning is that firstly, roleplay is memorable not just for you, but others at the table; and especially in this day and age where rape is considered a wholly terrible concept, you would most likely make everyone feel extremely uncomfortable at the table, even as a DM explaining an npc's actions. Secondly, almost all the actions you described consist of actions where it is "non memorable" for the npc or player. "Oh I killed another village" "oops a fire started" "Lets kill the King cos his motives are kinda sus or we're just evil" and so genocide or murder occurs. However rape is something that normally doesnt lead to killing afterwards, unless lets be honest the rapist is smart cos less evidence.
So the npc or player that was on the receiving end remembers it further and the repercussions and mental problems that can be inflicted by the DM onto the npc that the party may then have to deal with, can make it a larger issue overall than just killing the blacksmith and his family, thus being thrown out of town.
To clarify for any would-be jump-the-gunners, I do not condone rape, this is purely fictionally speaking and if a campaign is already consisting of genocide, murder and so on, then carnal pursuit, even through force is most likely not far from a villain's mind. Take Genghis Khan for example, a serial rapist who also pursued death, murder and conquership.
@@cristianday7372 You prefaced your reply to me by suggesting that what you were about to say is not what you actually believe or propose.....and that seemingly you were going to present somebody else's opinion to me as if it should change my mind. So in that sense the reaction I am having is.....I suppose......not aimed at you; but aimed at this hypothetical person. But my reaction to that hypothetical person is an overwhelming ethical revulsion......what the frelling frell should I react to someone who thinks that burning an entire village alive and slavery and genocide and torture and necromancy capturing someone's magical fictional soul for torture and causing terror to all their living friends and relatives.... is "not memorable" !??!?!?!? Not as bad as having sex with somebody that doesn't want to have sex and leaving...?!?!?!?!?! That would make me more than just uncomfortable. I would honestly report that person to the police for testing in psychopathy or other neurological disorders. And I would ask them to leave my property never to return. That person's opinion is genuinely shocking and harmful......
@@laertesindeed To clarify, what occurs during most dnd sessions? Combat. Whether its long haul, kingdom-wide slaughter, or general bandit killing, or monster slaying. It has been proven time and time again that humans can easily become blanked and emotionally numbed to the supposed horrors of combat, slaughter, murder and so on if consistently exposed to it. However, rape is uncommon, rarely explored in dnd comparative to combat, and therefore suffers much less exposure to general parties.
Therefore, to return to the original point, in comparison to murder and genocide etc, rape and much closer-to-home issues have a greater impact on the great majority of players as a whole and therefore are seen as much more taboo around the table, even if those acts are much more likely to occur in historical accuracy.
@@cristianday7372 I'm sorry but.... no. You're basically saying 2 + 2 = 5. Which is not true. It is contrary to reality. Either you don't allow "ANY" unethical actions in your fictional DnD campaign.....or you allow any of them to happen and make the character deal with their bad reputation and anybody wanting vengeance against them for their unethical behavior thereafter.
Glad to see a new video! You do the best Lore videos for Monsters in D&D. I have come to share them with just about every DM I know for insight into their own campaigns. Thank you for the work you do. I know monetization is a motivation but no one gets to your level without passion too. Glad your part of this community :)
I like that this is a longer video.
Bro! I've been waiting for this video since I discovered your channel !!!
Thank you
My first reaction to pig headed Orcs is from an anime back in 2015.
Or 'Legend of Zelda' 1986. 😅
@@megamanx466 yup, Ganondorf has got to be a shapeshifting orc
@@BlitzkriegBryce Yep, he did in the LoZ games after the first. Basically, he became more crafty. 😄
@@megamanx466 I think that’s also why his human form has such a defined, elongated nose and angular features as opposed to rounded. It’s the opposite of his orc form.
Was the anime “Gate”?
*This came in super handy for my Orc campaign ... A Half Orc who hunts down other orcs*
Orcs are the first example of "getting the pretty treatments" they started out as pig heads, but as time goes on they wanted the Orc's to be F-able so they started making them more humanoid and eventually they became prettier and prettier.
Wow 5th edition really left some key stuff out
Great work been watching since the beginning of the Skyrim days always get excited seeing your notifications keep up with the good work
You probably won't notice this but honestly I appreciate your videos so much, if I cant sleep I put on the dnd playlist and it helps me relax, thank you so much, not to mention how much it helps with building my dnd campaigns
I often get DnD orcs mixed up with 40k orcs and keep getting it into my head that it's the DnD orcs that are a type of fungus.
WAIT WHY IS THE SECOND EDITION ORC LAWFUL EVIL?!
Because 1e and 2e AD&D orcs were 'Lawful' and meant to be organized troops for 'Dark Lords' and other BBEG's, right down to having 'ranks' like sergents, lieutenants, etc. The trouble is that they were very hard to distinguish from Kobolts, Goblins, and Hobgoblins that were all also Lawful Evil. Starting with 3e, they became more Chaotic and tribal, as opposed to militaristic, to distinguish them from the Grots and Hobgrots. Advanced orcs (those of the large orc cities) are still of the older Lawful, in order to maintain the control and organization needed to 'run' such citadels. The current common raider orcs are reduced to brute force thugs with a limited mantra of 'Kill it. Eat it. Breed it. Kill it.'
Isn’t it because of the distinction between grey orcs and mountain orcs Rhexx was talking about?
@@mega-bustershepard5537 Indeed. I have this surmising on the possibilities of a "what if" 2nd Edition...
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Original D&D orcs took a lot of inspiration from Tolkien's values about orcs: Orcs are meant to stand in for industrialized imperialism. Orcs in LotR don't just keep slaves, they establish massive, American South style chattel plantations. Orcs build factories, orcs have explosive weapons.
Orcs are basically the Soviets, the Nazis, the British Expeditionary Force, and the Confederates all slammed together and then ramped up to the point of parody.
I guess if you pledge to be chaotic then that’s not true chaos. Perhaps what looks to be random chaos to outsiders is actually some sort of belief/cultural system... idk
40 minutes long? You've been a busy boy Mr. Rhexx I love to see it
My current dnd character is a half orc with grey skin. I just gave him grey skin as a design choice, but he matches incredibly with the description of grey orcs. I had no idea grey orcs where their own special breed and I love it when stuff fits together on its own.
*_" What they don't tell you about Baldurs Gate 3. "_*
lol
Finally, I love this series!
4:27 you mean a WAAAAGGGHHHHH right? because that just sounds like fancy talk for a WAAAAGGGGHHHHH
Dis umie don’t know wha’ a WAAAAAAGH is!
The "pig thing"
A long time ago and far far away (Harvard), *The Harvard Lampoon* wrote a parody of Lord of the Rings called Bored of the Rings. In one scene Frito and Spam were in a "gentlemen's club" in which the waitresses wore pig masks. The evil Narcs infiltrated the club and as a disguise wore pig masks. Ever since then Orcs were described as having pig like faces.
Tolkien, the originator of Orcs, only said they were large goblins.
I'm personally a fan of doing something more Tolkien-related on my games, linking them to Elves. My Orcs usually evolved from elves somehow, either by foreign interference or by choosing this destiny in a feud similar to (or even the same as) the Drow.
On some of my settings Orcs are actually far less evil (although still war-loving) and culturally count fully as elves, being more inclined to be friendly with their fair cousins than hostile.
This take includes turning down the low-int thing, since Tolkien Orcs are more savage than dumb. They are even regarded as excellent at the crafts they take on, like mining and building complex torture devices, and they are shown to have things like food and medicine that, although opposite to elven crafts in that they are foul to every sense, they are actually just as high quality in effectiveness.
Usually on those settings I make the Orcs as the source of the Duskblade and most Melee/Arcane combinations as a companion to the elvish Arcane Archer archetype.
Also that orc city mentioned in the video.Sounds like a peaceful version of Orsinium if it were not surrounded by hostile human kingdoms and sacked several times. :P
WAAAGH!
That cat at the end......I must PURCHASE!!!
I just recently discovered your channel and I'm loving it bro! I'm pretty excited to work my through your video backlog. Great work!
MrRhexx how do you do it? these videos are amazing!
Orcs are generous, caring lovers.
MrRhexx, you should probably restyle your main page a bit, every time I look at it I almost think 'oh dear i misclicked onto a skyrim page' before going to the videos page and going 'wait no its D&D videos'. Also, love your stuff, been watching since you did big fights in Skyrim!
9:40 Did I just have a stroke? Why do I smell toast?!
The most powerful of all the races. The common house cat! All fear its power!
It sounds like Obould Many-Arrows may actually be an Orog and not know it. He is constantly described of being vastly more intellegent than his Orc brethren, and that he is gifted in the skill of strategy.
Even though it's not a part of the typical 5e story lines, I would really like to know about the history of the gray orcs, so I hope you do another video with all the additional information, as usual your videos are awesome
Orog, when they were originally introduced, were a hybrid of ork and ogre, thus playing to their aspect of breeding with anything.
Wait. What? Random cats?!
Didcha know there are no orcs in Dragonlance?
19:32 The imaskar empire would like to have a word with you sir!
I get that these long videos are a pain in the a** to make but damn they are good! Always get excited when I see a new one
I've got two questions for characters I might bring up to upcoming campaigns:
1. Since we are talking about orcs. If an orc (mountain orc) in his bloodlust killed straglers running into a forest and a god, demigod, creature of the forest, etc magically turned him from chaotic evil to lawful neutral (don't like alignments but this is the shortest explanation possible). What would be the god/creature that would do the deed?
2. One of my character projects is an order domain cleric grung that wants to rebuild his nearly extinct clan but first has to prove himself worthy of being a golden frog. Is there a god of kings/rulers in dnd? Couldn't find one in 5e so maybe older editions would have one. If not, who'd you go for?
Edit: If any other kind souls want to help please go ahead. Chances are you know more than I do about the lore.
Maybe too late, but still.
1)Any kind of Fey(for shits and giggles) OR Yondalla, if this orc was killing halflings. There is a wonderfull spell named "Curse of Yondalla" that turns a humanoid into an infant, so clerics of Yondalla(or other nice people) could restart his life and make him a decent person. Maybe Eldath(goddess of peace and pacifism) or...dunno. To kill an orc is to make this world a favor. Magical transformation(or divine intervention) is nuanced in some ways. But if you need something more trustrworthy - exposure to Lawfull neutral plane of existence. But remember, if the change is made bay something non-divine it is likely to be reversed by other effects. A way back.
2)Siamorphe. Goddess of aristocracy and all this power-stuff.
@@user-pe6vd9kx7h it's never too late! Thanks for the info! Yondalla is interesting and the exposure to the Lawful neutral plane of existance is a pretty good idea! Fey was my first choice as well but those fuckers are mostly chaotic last time I checked so whatever changed him would have done proabably just to fuck with him, which I'm not opposed to. I thought I read somewhere about Luthic, Orc goddess of fertility, being not as evil and more towards neutral. Being kind of a counter-balance to the other war-mongering gods of the orcs so they don't just all die and go extinct. Maybe she'd want to betray to the other gods of the pantheon so orcs don't have to fuck like rabbits in order to not go extinct and free them from their cursed rage. That'd be a bit more homebrew tho cause I can't find where I got that from.
also Siamorphe is a great match! Can't believe I didn't find it! Thank you so much! My warlock is still alive, for now, We are fighting Tiamat next session so might need to bring on of these to the campaign sooner than anticipated xD
I mean alignment is basically a Fundamental force of creation... well more so for beings connected to Gods and the Outer Planes. Its more closer to a Christian Theologians idea of Abstractia, where the Outer Planes are overwhelmingly what Alignment they are but the difference blurs the more you get to the material plane, where all concepts mix.
The wait is finally over!!!
I WAS NEEDING THIS TODAY OMG THIS IS GREAT! Thank you so much!