Thank you! It was quite the process. I was very fortunate in that none of the bolts broke off. I hope that all of your projects are going well if you have any you’re working on.
Admire your tenacity. Good job. When I “renovated” my late in-law’s 85 LTD CV I found the TV bushing had totally disintegrated. I purchased a new one (plastic) and recall having a heck of a time getting it installed. Cannot remember how I managed to get it in place but I did manage to do so. There are several FB Groups dedicated to the old 70’s and 80’s LTD Crown Vics. One of the better groups is “The 1979 - 1991 Ford LTD Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis Quality Group”. I posted my Crown Vic on that site recently. Good luck!
Thank you for the encouragement Timbo! I really do appreciate it. It can sometimes get discouraging trying to figure out what to do when I feel lost in a forest of information, sometimes conflicting. I think I did see your post on the fb group and it’s a great vehicle. I hope all is going well for you and have a merry Christmas.
Good on you to take on this challenge! You are very patient. Don't forget that at least two of your extra bolts aren't your fault because of the aftermarket pump with it's missing holes. So now you probably have only 3 bolts left? I would keep them all in the glove box or somewhere safe and monitor once in a while for looseness/coolant leaks. You did the right thing to loosen up all the other bolts to try to get the bolt to fit in. It could be that none of the remaining bolts fit because the bolt that was supposed to go at that spot was inserted elsewhere. If I'm not sure if I'll remember where a bolt goes, I try to reinstall it temporarily back in it's hole or label it Perhaps you could get a Chilton's or a Haynes manual, that way you will have a better idea where things go? Even better would be a service manual.. As for the air lock, on my old 97 Buick Skylark, there were some purge valves you could press to get the air out of the system. What helps is to squeeze the top radiator hose with the cap off, this sometimes helps to get the air out. I would definitely invest in a temperature gauge because I think that generation of the Crown Vic has only "dummy" lights that turns on when the car overheats and it's too late by then. Perhaps this could be a video idea.
Thank you very much. I try and stay positive and approach it as a learning opportunity which helps. The good news is I think I got all the extra bolts accounted for. I had bought three new ones with the water pump, it used two less than the old one, and there are two on the silver bracket thing that I need to install so we should be good on that. I just need to put those two back in and all of them should be where they need to be. :) Getting a temperature reader is a very good idea. I think I will do that when I get some more money for it. The good news is I drove it around for about an hour yesterday and then touched the radiator cap and it felt fairly cool to the touch and still had all its coolant in it so I think it’s staying cool while running. I appreciate the idea for the next video :)
@@gwe87 Right on! You can now say that you are more mechanically inclined than most millenials and probably even 99% of the zoomers haha. You probably have more logic too, because mechanics involves more smarts than the average person gives credit for. From now on, will all your new car related videos be posted on the Gary channel or do I have to subscribe to the red cap mechanic channel?
I have had the water pump out of my 84 because it was leaking out of the bottom of the gasket. my car had about 50,000 miles three years ago and the original aluminum water pump was still shiny. i used an air ratchet for as much as i could and it helped to speed up the process. the biggest problem i ran into was that was the timing cover was aluminum and the steel bolts were oxidized and rusted together. because steel and aluminum are dissimilar metals. i ended up breaking two bolts off and we had to weld the bolt back together and heat up the timing cover until they loosened up. and once i got it back together started to put the pulley on i found out we got the wrong water pump. so i had to tear it back apart. all in all it tool two days of work after school and i haven't had any trouble with it since.
That is an amazing story of perseverance! I was so extremely fortunate that none of my bolts broke off because I don't know how I could have gotten them out (I don't have a welder). I don't know if you still have the car (I hope you do) but I have found that presoaking all of the components a day before in a lubricant like WD-40 or PB Blaster really helps to get the process to be much smoother. Well... at least as smooth as you saw in the video. A lot of the bolts were still very seized in their spots but with a little rocking back and forth and percussive mechanics, they thankfully came out. I didn't know that any of the 84s came with aluminum parts; I thought that they were all iron and steel back then, so that is really cool to know. I hope your car is running well!
@gwe87 not to that extent. Replacing a water pump on a small block chevy takes half the time and a quarter the tools. Ford almost make up for it by putting the distributors on the front of the motor.
I did find it very accessible to have the distributor on the front of the motor, so that was a big plus! I suppose that if you know what you're doing then any job is a lot easier though :) I'm getting there!
Don’t be discouraged, water pumps are difficult!
Thank you! It was quite the process. I was very fortunate in that none of the bolts broke off. I hope that all of your projects are going well if you have any you’re working on.
Admire your tenacity. Good job. When I “renovated” my late in-law’s 85 LTD CV I found the TV bushing had totally disintegrated. I purchased a new one (plastic) and recall having a heck of a time getting it installed. Cannot remember how I managed to get it in place but I did manage to do so. There are several FB Groups dedicated to the old 70’s and 80’s LTD Crown Vics. One of the better groups is “The 1979 - 1991 Ford LTD Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis Quality Group”. I posted my Crown Vic on that site recently. Good luck!
Thank you for the encouragement Timbo! I really do appreciate it. It can sometimes get discouraging trying to figure out what to do when I feel lost in a forest of information, sometimes conflicting. I think I did see your post on the fb group and it’s a great vehicle. I hope all is going well for you and have a merry Christmas.
Good on you to take on this challenge! You are very patient. Don't forget that at least two of your extra bolts aren't your fault because of the aftermarket pump with it's missing holes. So now you probably have only 3 bolts left? I would keep them all in the glove box or somewhere safe and monitor once in a while for looseness/coolant leaks. You did the right thing to loosen up all the other bolts to try to get the bolt to fit in. It could be that none of the remaining bolts fit because the bolt that was supposed to go at that spot was inserted elsewhere. If I'm not sure if I'll remember where a bolt goes, I try to reinstall it temporarily back in it's hole or label it Perhaps you could get a Chilton's or a Haynes manual, that way you will have a better idea where things go? Even better would be a service manual..
As for the air lock, on my old 97 Buick Skylark, there were some purge valves you could press to get the air out of the system. What helps is to squeeze the top radiator hose with the cap off, this sometimes helps to get the air out. I would definitely invest in a temperature gauge because I think that generation of the Crown Vic has only "dummy" lights that turns on when the car overheats and it's too late by then. Perhaps this could be a video idea.
Thank you very much. I try and stay positive and approach it as a learning opportunity which helps. The good news is I think I got all the extra bolts accounted for. I had bought three new ones with the water pump, it used two less than the old one, and there are two on the silver bracket thing that I need to install so we should be good on that. I just need to put those two back in and all of them should be where they need to be. :)
Getting a temperature reader is a very good idea. I think I will do that when I get some more money for it. The good news is I drove it around for about an hour yesterday and then touched the radiator cap and it felt fairly cool to the touch and still had all its coolant in it so I think it’s staying cool while running. I appreciate the idea for the next video :)
@@gwe87 Right on! You can now say that you are more mechanically inclined than most millenials and probably even 99% of the zoomers haha. You probably have more logic too, because mechanics involves more smarts than the average person gives credit for.
From now on, will all your new car related videos be posted on the Gary channel or do I have to subscribe to the red cap mechanic channel?
@ I’ll post them to both :)
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Thank you :)
1:45:36 - Evil Dead cabin arrival vibes. Sweet ride, and nice job get'n'er goin'!
Just need to find me a nice Delta 88 and the visual will be completed :)
I have had the water pump out of my 84 because it was leaking out of the bottom of the gasket. my car had about 50,000 miles three years ago and the original aluminum water pump was still shiny. i used an air ratchet for as much as i could and it helped to speed up the process. the biggest problem i ran into was that was the timing cover was aluminum and the steel bolts were oxidized and rusted together. because steel and aluminum are dissimilar metals. i ended up breaking two bolts off and we had to weld the bolt back together and heat up the timing cover until they loosened up. and once i got it back together started to put the pulley on i found out we got the wrong water pump. so i had to tear it back apart. all in all it tool two days of work after school and i haven't had any trouble with it since.
That is an amazing story of perseverance! I was so extremely fortunate that none of my bolts broke off because I don't know how I could have gotten them out (I don't have a welder). I don't know if you still have the car (I hope you do) but I have found that presoaking all of the components a day before in a lubricant like WD-40 or PB Blaster really helps to get the process to be much smoother. Well... at least as smooth as you saw in the video. A lot of the bolts were still very seized in their spots but with a little rocking back and forth and percussive mechanics, they thankfully came out. I didn't know that any of the 84s came with aluminum parts; I thought that they were all iron and steel back then, so that is really cool to know. I hope your car is running well!
Try, the thermostat
Because Ford.
I've not worked on other brands of cars yet. Do Chevy's not have that pile up issue?
@gwe87 not to that extent. Replacing a water pump on a small block chevy takes half the time and a quarter the tools. Ford almost make up for it by putting the distributors on the front of the motor.
I did find it very accessible to have the distributor on the front of the motor, so that was a big plus! I suppose that if you know what you're doing then any job is a lot easier though :) I'm getting there!
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As always!