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There's a place in jannah for those who stops arguing even if he is right.
Mashallah my brother thank you for the Beautiful reminder
@@SomaliSpeakers Jazakallah khair brother.
@@bms789654 may Allah bless you and your family and guide us all Ameen
We have to unite upon the truth
@@savageman2167 Wa 'alaikum as-Salām wa Raḥmatullāhi wa Barakātuhu
It really breaks my heart to see Muslims fighting like that 😔 they can solve their problems in private and correct each other's mistakes kindly and calmly .
Its not the first time
@@MrJoker-sq9xj unfortunately 😕
Instead of fighting unbelievers fight each other! 💔
@@AbdulazizAljuhanii religion of peace
@@AbdulazizAljuhanii So you people do hate non believers then complain about Islamophobia
calling each other brothers isnt just a word, it has a meaning, and a purpose to behave like brothers ali and shamsi
Brother shamshi is behaving like a brother, ali is not.
@@Eleidig007 they both aren't lets be fair
Even brothers fight and argue. What siblings don't.
@@Eleidig007 shamsi is behaving good, brother ali and hamid have alot of pride which shamsi doesn’t he stays humble in this situation i can see it
Short one is call him a Muslim he have gold Teath look his hair stail
At first when I saw this video, it confused and made me upset to see two brothers who do dawah fighting. Now coming back to this video after 3 years, I can clearly see that Shamsi and the brothers with him were absolutely upon the haqq and have always called the people to the truth and busy people with beneficial knowledge, and not busy the people with drama and reaction videos like we see with some duaat today (may Allaah guide us and them)
haqq. same with me
Brother, it's not only about being upon the truth, also with the way they deliver their dawah counts as well. Shamsi always claim that he's following the salafs way, but we all know that the more knowledge salafs acquired, the more they became humbled. Imagine, calling your own brother an Innovator? What rights does he have to do that? He's always aggressive in his dawah. Is this really the way of the Salaf? The Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalaam was known to have the best of character and people accepted Islam because of that. May Allah subhânahu wata'ala forgive us our sins and accept our deen from us. Ameen.
@@abdulsamadibrahim4929 what are you on about??
@@abdulsamadibrahim4929 he spent a lot of time giving naseeha to ali dawah and co and they never listened and they lied and they slandered so if he has evidence of their innovation which he explains in the video that ali never addresses, he’s got the right to call him out on it. The mubtadi are not our brothers
@@bonk2065 Akhi did you even know that Ali was a revert in the first place? Shamsi wasn't there when he converted to Islam. I know he has converted long time but what does Allah subhânahu wata'ala says about being patient? I repeat no matter the amount of knowledge Shamsi has consumed, he doesn't have the right to do takfeer on his own Brother, he's not a Scholar for crying out loud. Someone waited for his brother going to 8 years and even more just to give him naseeha. But in our own time today, if the young Muslims went to seek knowledge, the next is to be doing takfeer of everyone. Lemme repeat again, we were told that when the Salafs acquire more knowledge, they become more humble. I don't see that quality in him. He's always aggressive to state his point and that is very bad. This can't be the way of the Salaf.
This was so pointless. Everyone talking and nobody listening.
Pls read about Pastor Pierre Oult....
Ali listened
So the little guy asked a question but didn't let Ali answer. You cannot ask a question and force an answer you like.... Let the man answer his way for goodness sake this was just annoying, this little dude in front of Ali shouting at everyone interrupting them but expecting everyone to be silent when he speaks????? No self control
welcome to speakers corner!
I dont think anyone can talk when shamsi is around, he asks a question for 2 hours and expects a yes or no answer, looks like the tactics of a coward.
Imagine non-muslims watching this because as a muslim, even this worries me..
Why are you afraid for a Christian to watch this? If your religion is true, then let anyone know about it.
Terwase Gusha because they’re on a platform and should know better than to fight about petty things. If they wanna act like little boys, they shouldn’t step up and act like spokespeople
PYS ILL it’s not petty things. Ali is deceiving the masses and spreading misguidance. shamsi is exposing him
@@HannaKass you are not right. We cannot allow pencils like Ali Dawa to claim lies about our religion. We have to openly fight him with arguments. This is the way the scholars did before our time.
Turn to Jesus and you won’t have this nonsense!!
This shows, knowledge is nothing without akhlaq.
Wallah so true
Truuuuuuuue 😭
True
This is why imam Ali a.s says
Courtesy is the physical manifestation of intellect.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
You can see over the years Ali Dawah changed a lot.
But, Shamsi is firm and consistent, Ma shā Allah.
True, its because Shamsi's brain stopped evolving many years ago.
@@sunny5610 Yeah, we don’t believe in evolution.
@@sunny5610😂😂
@@nonijoshi1082Astaghfurillah never say those disgusting words again
@@HabibiHussi Ali is a content creator whereas shamsi is the real deal for Islam
Shaytaan must have enjoyed himself while watching this
Init😂😂
Very entertaining yes
Mark 3:24-26
King James Version
24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
Don't know about shaitan but I was rolling around the floor laughing
Be honest yourself. Can you trust ali dawah? Why his wedding questionable?
Legend has it Ali Dawah is still standing in the same spot saying “let me speak” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Brother Shamsi wasn't fair to brother Ali.. he asked a question and won't let Ali answer.. really sad
@@squallleonheart8494 he used a silly tactic Were he takes too Long to answer and talks about 100 different things
@@squallleonheart8494 because he didn't plan on answering it in the first place! He was Using the Talk-Strategy where you avoid answering questions by speaking too much about other non relevant stuffs
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣hahahahahaha I'm rolling kkkkkkkkkkkk
Can't lie, hurts me to see things like this irrespective of who is right and who is wrong, sort your differences out in private and move forward
Shamroze Butt. They should sort out their differences from where this decadent cult comes from
@@bakgatfromgb whatever you say Bruce
@Ibrahim Zulfiquar I'm not okay with it I just prefer not to waste my time arguing with someone as ignorant as him, these are the people who have little to no knowledge of Islam yet have an opinion on it, you should refrain aswell
@@shamrozebutt2615 I may not have enough about Islam as you do, but I sure as hell know more about the Quran than YOU do!!
@Ibrahim Zulfiquar Thank you. I know that the leader of my "cult" is my creator YHWH
shamsi came storming in like john cena up in this corner 😭😭😭
Fr😂
Bro his screams would be my next alarm fr😂😂
Hahaha
*Abdulhamid: Isn't interested in Haq, he's complicating things due to his ignorance and he's just there to mock and heckle! this is not a grown-up Muslim's way!!*
@Mr Chow He's algerian, he's passionate. especially about the foundation.
Pls read about Pastor Pierre Oult....
Exactly i hate his interrupting soo much i cant describe🥲
what a shame, give a nice image of islam or stay at home .
The facts is that what is written is apperently gods Word.
But how do we not understand...
Why does it divider us
@@abshirahmed99 only bidah and shirk divides us
Exactly..
Facts
What divides us; for example in this situation is probably an agent claiming to be a female muslim knowing exactly how to cause fitnah between the brothers... open your eyes, also ali jumping to conclusions and brother shamsi calling him names is not so great but the devil won't enter a house which is empty so they must be more careful
If the prophet (saws) would see this ... he would probably tell them all to go their homes and hold their tongues. These guys, it's sad.
You're wrong because when people spread false and aquidah of ikhwan muslimun, your have to correct them brother stop mixing proof with ikhwan speech. Kheyr incha Allah.
@@mabderahman. There's a place in jannah for those who stops arguing even if he is right. This says it all.
@@liquille No it doesn't. Allahu 'Aza Waa Jal wants us to unite upon the Haq and that's what Shamsi is trying to do. Do you understand the poison Ali Dawah is spreading?
@@mohammedharis9588 No it doesn't? Oke kid, you're done. Go talk to a wall.
@@liquille You used a hadith to try and justify the innovated principle of Al-Ikhwān Al-Muslimūn. Are you ok?
“My silence towards the idiot is indeed an answer.” (Imam Shafi’i)
That's cute
...but that's also condescending
@@marioluigi9599also very effective
@@Peace.king913 go to hell
@@marioluigi9599the best advice toward peoples
Brothers it's simple. Defend the deen of Allah and your love for the deen of Allah is greater than pleasing the people. Be just. Our brother Shamsi is showing gheerah for this deen. It's nothing personal. The "team" needs to reflect and not be so emotionally charged. May Allah guide us all. Making dua for all of you to unite upon the TRUTH and may Allah protect the Muslims. We are living in scary times, the knowledgeable are few, and the ignorant are many.
بارك الله فيك
When we speak to non Muslim, we are more respectful.
And should you not be respectful to non-muslims??🤔
@@eire3215 of course we should. But we should not give special treatment to someone just because they are not Muslim.
@@mahmud9490 special treatment and respect are 2 diffrent things...
@@eire3215 everyone should be treated with respect.
@@mahmud9490 exactly my friend...
May Allah bless shamsi and all brother folowwing quran and sunna with good comprehension , from france .
Yeah because he spread truth instead of bidaa and speech like we are alla brother let's forget our mistake and agree in what we are same ikhwan speech sorry for my English stop spreading falsehood man and lies against brother's
@@mabderahman. nothing truthful about slandering against mufti menk and Dr Zakir.
@@Unityfm78 sorry but "mufti "menk isn't a reference and naik made a mistake then I don't know if he repent for that or no , and monk sit with ahlu bidaa this is known
@@mabderahman. government operative.
@@mabderahman. he will be exposed soon in front of his friends and handlers.
Without any dabout shemsi is the BOSS.
Correct brother
It's heart breaking to see our brothers in islam arguing like this, al hamdullilah I keep myself to myself and try and improve myself in my deen.
Jazak Allah Khair.. This is all non sense.
Yusha.R come to Christ I pray! Ask him for revelation and dreams and he will show you the truth! And the truth will set you free of this cult of Islam. Peace to you..
@@leelifeson9150 La ilaha illalla muhammadur rasulullah. I don't need speakers corner to dictate my Faith in A Mighty God.. Who even your god (Jesus Alayhi Salam) prayed to..Speakers corner is for people who want to live in frustration and division.. My faith is too strong to be bent by this new brand of comparing religions or sects/denominations..im very religious but speakers corner should be banned and Christian heckling in the park should be seen as biggest disgrace.
All religion is divisive with internal inconsistences and arguments. And that's because it's man made. Free yourself; forget all this stuff.
Lee Lifeson we respect your religion please don’t call our religion a cult
The reason why I have named this location “fitnah corner” rather than speakers corner. Is because it not only produces angry and rude people at the cost of their own reputation (not that I think they really care). But it turns people away from the deen of Allah. These people have a lot to answer for.
İ quite like it cos i learn some too, but i just hate it when this happens.
Shamsi is a good brother who is knowledgeable even though I disagree with him on certain matters. Ali Dawah is a clown for saying a woman left Islam because of Shamsi.
Rather He should’ve this is the very reason it puts people of because we argue amongst ourselves. It’s not the way of our prophet saw and he gave the best dawah and is the most influential person to have existed
He didn't say a woman left islam because of shamsi.
He said a woman left islam because of muslims fighting each other.
@@darksecrets8953 no one left, all lies
Ali behaved in a manner that befits a Muslim. I basically understood nothing because of Shamsi's shouting. I don't know what they were arguing about but I respect Ali much more after this video. Obviously we all make mistakes, so Insha'Allah this is not a true representation of brother Shamsi. May Allah guide us all.
@@globeskimmer7685 how did he actual act? Fake? Misusing someone’s death for own benefit? Without knowledge? 👍🏼😅
2 years later and Ali needs Dawah still hasn't planned anything🤣🤣🤣
I wonder what’s going to take presence first….his marriage documentary being completed in totality or the meeting with Sheikh Fawzan (hafidullah)
Everyone sould understand that there is a huge difference between someone who knows just how to talk and convince people... And someone who studied (أصول الفقه)
صلاح الدين what are shamsis qualifications in deen, one Christian guy asked him this question in one and video and he walked off
Sayed778 *who said you have to be qualified in order to speak the truth? The difference between shamsi and ali dawah is night and day when it comes to knowledge if u want to go that route what are the qualifications of ali dawah?*
@Ikraam
I agree wallahi, most of people don't like the true scientific content, they just want to hear good stories from people who knows how to play with words
Ali dawah doesn't even memorize the quran, and he talk about knowledge and فقه
اخوي صلاح وش مشكلة شمسي وعلي ووش يتجادلون فيه بالتفصيل لأني ما افهم اللغه
There was no benefit in this. No one is being allowed to speak fully. Very frustrating. May Allah guide us all to right path and save us from arguing.
Allah is dead...
@@kembekanana na thats just according to Christanity due to Jesus being God and Jesus dying. Which means God died. Sorry bro Islam doesn't teach this.
@@abdulkhan534 Allah is dead, and that is why you are confused..
Then we have about 700 different Quran, so this shows that allah is dead...
@@kembekanana May Allah Guide You My Brother 🙏
@@abdulkhan534 Sorry Chief, allah is dead. If you want life, come to Jesus Christ, who died and rose again on the third day.
Sad times to have muslims brothers going against each other like this, there was no respect shown. Everyone taking over each other and not actually listening to what each one has to say. If you don't agree it's fine leave and go home respectfully instead of proving to each other who is right and who is wrong, it's so embarrassing. We can agree to disagree on views and this what this should have been instead of having cheap shots at each other. Allah guide all of us and whom he wills to enter paradise Ameen
Muslims have been fighting each other since the sahaba times actually because of Salaf vs people of desires and whims
Speak with evidence
Came back to this 2 years later... I understand much more of what's happening... One has knowledge and experience while the other has experience and no knowledge...
who is what?
@@sabrina0505 Shamsi with the knowledge and experience, Ali with the experience and much lesser knowledge. Would you agree?
@@mohammadmukhtar1666agreed
@@mohammadmukhtar1666yea bro too obvious Eid Mubarak by the way🤣💪🏾
@@japnanekoli981 Eid Mubarak brother
May Allah help us to resolve all the conflicts among Muslims and unite us! Aameen
Aameen
😂😂😂 Shaitan 😈 really enjoyed that.👏😂😂😂 WITHOIT LIES ISLAM DIES.😈😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Luke 24: 44 Now He said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” 45 Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and He said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day, 47 and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem. 48 You are witnesses of these things. 49 And behold, I am sending forth the promise of My Father ...
"that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” The jews that not believe in Jesus do also have these Scriptures, so it cannot been corrupted for Jesus. Is Jesus falsely made up so that He fits into it? No, it makes more sense that Scriptures were prepared for Jesus and that God prepared the coming of Jesus.
John 14: 21 He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.” 22 Judas (not Iscariot) *said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.
John 8: 12 Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, “I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.”
Lying is haram at islam you idiot!
Allah said in Quran :
O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allah is Ever Well-Acquainted with what you do.
Sura : Nisa - verse : 135
Use bombs kabooooom lol
Meanwhile atheists, Christians and Jews are eating popcorn, laughing their butts off behind the camera.
Lmao, nice way to disguise an insult and then hide behind "well atleast myself..."
@John Le really? Maybe you can teach me something.
@John Le nope, no lie there. You should read the bible and the many different versions of Jesus' rising from the dead. And how can Jesus be subjected to torture, hunger, thirst, and even death if he is God (in Christianity). Unless you are a Jehova's Witness, you would believe that Jesus is God right?
Strange, I thought they were all Muslims ? Not one v one v one v one ??
@John Le no deception. If a God tells you how things work, and the people don't follow a prophet and furthermore want to kill that prophet. Then whatever God chooses to punish them with is up to Him.
But if you want to go by that logic. Then isn't the God in the Bible a mass murderer who kills innocent babies, women and donkeys? And by extension wouldn't Jesus then be a liar and a deceiver if he claims to love all and love thy neighbor, but then he commands Moses to kill innocent women, babies and donkeys?
I’m a Sikh and what’s appalling is that no one got in between this argument and reminded them that they should be fighting the enemies of Islam and not their own brothers. Truly sad situation
your right
So what people have disagreements we are humans we need to confront the issue and problem
Falsehood should be battled
The way in which that's done depends on who it is
@Tan The One God, the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad
BIG facts.
Shamsi entry is legendary. Subhan Allah
No
@@just9935he's confronting a person of bid'ah, how is it anything but legendary?
This is a sad situation for the Muslim Umma.
Rather this should of been done in private, off camera, if it was that necessary.
Insha'ALLAH may ALLAH (SWT) keep helping us to bring us together and keep us united as one Umma, Ameen.
@Ata Assefa
Im sorry that i have to disagree with you on this one.
If only you understood what you are saying.
Islam is the most beautiful way of life.
Insha'ALLAH, may ALLAH (SWT) guide you to Islam, the straight path, Ameen,
and ALLAH (SWT) knows best.
Ameen brother and your right.
If this is representative of the ummah then we're in trouble. If you take these guys as an example for the ummah then you're in serious trouble and need to reflect deeply from whom you're taking your deen from.
You think it's "should of" 🤣
@@MrRiz157 did you forget that after Rasul (s.a.w.) left this earth, immediately best of shababs argued with each other for earthly reasons .. you know what happened.. It means best of amongst us are allowed to argue with each other.. both can be right but both can also be wrong.. we are all human..
Wallah you guys can be a power house in speakers corner if you guys stuck together but instead you are embarrassing yourselves
So true man, I used to look up to each of these guys individually, watched so many of their videos, thought UK is awesome with these guys, but how after all that dawah u lost the humility, we should be so kind to each other EVEN in disagreements
@M.J.Y he says he's improving his self. Also whenever he walks away ppl think he's running whereas it is said to walk away from the ignorant
When it comes to drama Ali is the king .. but brother Shamsi has knowledge, that's why he wins every single debate.
I think Shamsi is the king of drama, maybe you need to clean your eyes
@@alexsmith2766 shut up alex
@@alexsmith2766 Haitham Al Haddad and Yusuf Estes are innovators
@@ponderingspirit1475 what does that have to do with my comment? please pay attention and read carefully
@@alexsmith2766 you're saying Shamsi is the king of drama, but in reality it's Ali. Ali Dawah thinks he associates with people who are Sunni, but in reality they are Ikhwani/Suroori or Ash'ari/Jahmi, as is the case of Haitham Al Haddad and Yusuf Estes. This issue between them could be resolved simply if Ali learned about Al Wala wal Bara' and how the Salaf dealt with innovators
Alhamdulilah for salafi and the warrior Shamsi may Allah protect him and raise his ranks in dunya and Ahkirah Amin
Whenever Ali messes with shamsi all he gets is a bloody nose . Shamsi is a man of knowledge.
stop making "fitna" pls
@Yasmin Yarwood aslam alaykum brother can you link the video about the girl ?
Shamsi is a real man mashaAllah he only speaks with sources from books and knowledge, whereas the Ali is just making unnecessary drama fr, no valid points at all from him
Knowledge? Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha 🤡
@@232police can you stop dividing two Muslims. It creates fitnah
*Soon everyone will come to the park to only see our brothers fighting each other*
May Allah SWT guide us all to the righteous path
*This made our prophet SAW(peace be upon him) the most upset and anger upon his ummah*
May *Allah SWT* guide us
@Noah Wells did your parents or grandparents send you a postcard from hell and you know this? If you carry like this you will be joining your islamaphobe peers there too
Please add A'meen at the end of your duas please
Muppets will behave like muppets. Are these your representatives?
Sign of Jahelia , A Muslim would walk away from this dead end argument by saying Allah knows the best.
Not muhammed it would have been a war 😂
@@kingsamial838 hes the first to show this kind of great patience. Go read up on his life insha Allah.
@Yung Prodigy if the roadman turned into an imam then he'd have good character insha Allah.
Aphro brainwashed much 🤣🤣
@@kingsamial838 could be me could be you. The difference lies in sincere contemplation.
Ali dawah for 32 Mins : can i speak
😂
It is not funny but embarrassing situation for Muslims
Bro i love shamsi he got so much knowledge just answer the questions and dont go around...
Me too
Shamsi may allah make you stand on the truth even if you are the only one mash allah
Ma shaa Allah ما شاء الله and not Mash Allah
Correct the typing error akhi
As if he holds the truth . The only and ultimite truth only god knows .
sofia el that’s you assuming your own things we all allah holds the truth but i personally think shamsi is right why are you changing my statement as if I said shamsi holds the truth
@@abuabdullah1972 May Allah keep our brother Shamsi steadfast upon the truth
ibn Muhammad amiin
“Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is only [left] to Allah; then He will inform them about what they used to do.” - 6:159
That is about Jews and Christians who have divided themselves into sects.
@@abdul-ur6vq muslims are doing the same thing though
@@toasted_donut2308 follow the Quran and sunnah and everything will be good إن شاء الله
Verse #
Allah said hold on to the rope of Allah and do not divide
What is the rope of Allah? It’s Quran and Sunnah and the way of sahaba
That’s why it’s important to warn against those who split from the saved sect (Quran and Sunnah) Allah said only the party of Allah will be successful
Those who water down Quran and Sunnah and misguide others and promote people of innovation and innovators have to be warned against
For the first time i have seen Ali being humble n humbled at the same time 😂😂
This is really shame for us Muslims when other people sees Muslim arguing each other instead of preaching. Grow up man!
S Hassan
I am curious, kind of wanted to know where Ali originated from? I mean, Shamsi is from Algeria, Mohamed Hijab hailed from Egyptian parents but, this kid Ali ( he insults the terminology “ Da’wah”) so I won’t attach Da’wah to his name).........?.........
Today, this Akhira Zaman time, we see a Muslim ( one who claims to pows, pleases, passionate & adheres to none but Allah) belittles another Muslim .....A Muslim brother who struggles against faceless , fate-less & faithless enemies, then what is our obligations a) to pray for guidance from Allah for all who disrespect fellow Muslims? or B) to curse & ask Allah to strike the haters or c) to file a complain @ the courts from the very country he or his family hailed from to let the Ullama of that country to see his personal behavior or d) to send delegation of girls including the girl he lied about her to grill him about his purpose of da’wah?
@@givemeabreakplease7415 brother is 21st century so they see the Western people use any names on their children. So they say why can't we use Da'wah as as a name! So you understood.. so like I said these are kids who gain little knowledge of Deen and they start preaching in the Corners Speaker..
Jesus is logic and without him you have outing but foolishness!
S Hassan
I can understand brother ان شاءالله will pray for them to behave ان شاءالله
41:35)
وَمَا يُلَقَّاهَا إِلَّا الَّذِينَ صَبَرُوا وَمَا يُلَقَّاهَا إِلَّا ذُو حَظٍّ عَظِيمٍ
(41:35)
And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint,- none but persons of the greatest good fortune.
Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn Abbas explained this Ayah:
"Allah commands the believers to be patient when they feel angry, to be forbearing when confronted with ignorance, and to forgive when they are mistreated. If they do this, Allah will save them from the Shaytan and subdue their enemies to them until they become like close friends.''
He is a Turkish Kurd.
Alhamdulillah you guys have been doing good job by being Soldiers of Allah, please resolve your issues the way our Prophet have thought us.
May Allah bless you all & make peace between the brothers in Islam, Aameen
Most of speaker corner goes like this.
Man 1: let me speak , let me speak speak, let me speak
Man 2: answer my question
Man 1 : let me speak
answer my question!
And the hand gestures lol
Exactly 😶
Your a layer, your not real Muslim. Do you accept it? Give me zakat.
😂😂😂😂
SubhanAllah Alis "Can i speak?😢" was so frustrating to listen to😂 Didnt answer anything shamsi asked in the start, cuz he knows hes wrong. May Allah guide us all
This is not an issue of knowledge, it is an issue of akhlaaq. It is clear who is engaging their ego and who is not.
very clear indeed
Knowledge is key and it’s clear who is knowledgeable
Well said brother.
I think Brother Shamsi is Really Person of knowledge....... Love him ❤❤❤
How ? Because he declares everyone to be an innovator ?.. who’s ur favorite English speaking sheikh ?? I guarantee you he’s an innovator in shamsi eyes
@@Gufaaco if they go against sunnah then it's good to point it out before other people are misguided. Do you not agree with that? If you hear a famous english sheikh make a mistake reciting the Quran are you not going to correct him? My point is that mostly english speaking sheikh's help spread information and teachings of islam to the new reverts and you can guess how much a mistake can affect some ones life.
@@legitskillz3359 but when a person hears a Quran reciter recite MELIK instead of MAALIK (in surah Fatiha) the student may try correct him. But little does he know about the different ways of reciting the Quran. Similarly in this occasion you see shamsi pointing at people with claiming people are innovators which are way higher than his grasp.. things that major scholars have had disagreements with. Such as voting, who is shamsi that hasn’t studied under any single scholar to make his judgement and say whoever disagrees is an innovator
@@Gufaaco I would understand your point if shamsi never supported his claims but he always does not like the other side who are trying to find faults with shamsi and his people for petty reasons
@@legitskillz3359 to the layman the evidence he brought would sound solid .. but what about the other hadiths that contradicted it.. this is where scholarly knowledge comes in . We should always leave issues of ijtihaad to the scholars and his own scholars have said this. In hospitals the tough tasks (operations)are given to decorated doctors and not the nurses . But to a person that knows nothing about biology the nurse will sound as if he/she knows what there doing.
Muslims unite with the kalimah, Quran, Sunnah. This is sad.
*theres no unity upon misguidance*
😭😭😂
@@Randomhandlename Then why did the christians and jews live amongst the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and Sahabas Radiyalahuanhum
This is heartbreaking. May Allah keep us firm.
wallahi this is nonsense from to day I stop following you guys,
Ali Dawah... Such an actor.. keeps saying "can I speak ... Can I speak..."!!!
Shamsi speaks logically and has proofs. Ali speaks EMOTIONALLY, and has nothing.
@@PabloHasan_ 🙃🙃🙃🙃 read read brother. I see the emotions are coming out of you.
Qurab and islam is emotional for muslims. Ali has knowledge. Shamsi spreads wrong things.
OKAY
@@ggvv9700 and it's wrong from you to speak wrong about people
This is how and why the Arabs were divided and prophet Mohammad was from their kind. As a muslim we should be one and not like this.
*theres no unity upon misguidance*
Shamsi is very knowledgeable and upon the Haqq. He is definitely someone to learn from.
The way of the Salaf Insha Allah
Why can't they have a proper discussion without having 50 people interrupting every second.
Lol are you mad..This is islam your talking about..
Eire 32 u seem mad.
@@Ihavemadeit999 I just say what i see...
@@eire3215 i am not talking about islam. It is just annoying when half of the "dialogue" is people interrupting.
@@eire3215 you need to look at your own culture for violence...levels to this civilisation ting
I have never seen A 40+ old man behaving like A Kid. Abdul Hamid is embarrassment
He keep screaming pretending to be strong man, seriously they should have a serious respectful conversation without screaming, cutting, anything. The Salafi brothers will destroy them. This is not Christianity, the Ikhwanis are a shame upon the ummah.
Don't lie look I'm sure u will be like what u saying a 40 year old child
How about shamsi acting like a child calling people donkey etc? Standard boot licking hypocrisy here.
@@I.M.CROW. Shameful all of you.Bé mature and wise.INSYAALLAH I hope everything will be settled.Dont belittle each other.
Come on. We shouldn’t say that about the brother even if you think it’s true. He’s our Muslim brother regardless.
I am with shamsi
thats why prophet said islam will be devided into morethan 72.
Don't pick sides bru
Brothers, its not important who said what! Please dont argue. Youre both doing great dawah, may Allah SWT reward you a lead you on the way to friendship.
Shamsi is funny .these guys ain't ready for him wit the knowledge ma'shallah
Can Abdul Hameed ......
Just go away!
Can the boot licker go away stop interrepting him while he was trying to have a disscussion. Guy was scared with his boot licker gang and dont want to talk lol
@@coolnew42007 please be just. The discussion was between Ali and Shamsi, so there was no need for Abdul Hameed to keep butting in. Ali is well known for being able to make a point. Im sure you wouldnt like it if someone was stood behind you and kept butting in while you were attempting to have a conversation.
@@hollaifyahearme5771 Akhi are you blind. Does shamsi always have to bring his boot licking army with himself to have a debate with someone, isnt him and the cameraman enough. Shamsi approached Ali even though Ali was minding his own business. So Shamsi butted in. Also he said he doesn't want to debate people of bida but he was debating abdul hamid and Ali but when bro hajji showed up all of a sudden he doesnt he dont want to debate people of bida. Be just lol
Notice how everyone went silent and listened once Shamsi started talking, straight facts.
Because he screams and talks over everyone .. but then he tries walking away when people talk over him .
@@may-bothisissakoolface6116 No, he walks away when he realizes he’s talking to a donut.
@@may-bothisissakoolface6116 he doesn't listen to the ignorant that's why he walks away
@@teenagesalafi9498 😂😂😂 he runs away
@@jijijkbibjjbjgk bro wait what ??? Your username
Says the madakhali are worse then rawaafida
Are you serious???
First of all there is no such thing called madakhila
The ikhwanul muslimiin first used this name to insult the salafis
Saying the salfis are just followers of sheikh Rabiic ibnu hadi al madkhali a Saudi salafi scholer
This name is only a propaganda
Second how dare you compare salfis to Shia Rafida ???
I think you are Shia
We are in 2024 three years have passed since this video, and Ali dawah has not gone to a sheikh faouzane
Bro I really love chamsi one of the realist Muslims out there in my opinion.
Calling someone the realist is not an opinion tho 🤔
@@7hevybutsh78 to me it is 😂
@@7hevybutsh78 some think he is fake ,so .....if that's not an opinion than what it is hhh
@@ABRock6 well i dont think its funny tho.. Thats my "opinion". But if its a matter of haqq nd deen like shamsi said himself many times well then its a serious matter. So if he is the realist in your eyes. You know you shouldn't be laughing about this matter. Its sad how this all got twisted.. Im not a scholar or such. But this matter should been dealt with without camera's nd such. People from our oummah r enjoying this nd picking sides or having an "opinion". Deen nd they way humanity (Muslims) should practice it the right way is not about who the realist is. The realist is our prophet s.a.w.
@@ABRock6 masalama brother
Shamsi has destroyed these 2 drama queens alhumdulillah. Seriously these 2 guys have embarrassed themselves with their utter ignorance and emotions.
@*** 9:25 Ali got finished. Just a couple of his misguidance and he couldn't deal with it.
Southern Realist
21 hours ago
Bro shamsi is the man of knowledge. He also has splitted mohammed hijab in to pieces! Stay strong shamsi!
@@fareerforsuk6609 brother don't let that get to the top of your head that quickly mate, you're feeding ego into the brother too fast, why don't you listen to the real learned man, the scholars who have studied this religion for all their lives. It'll be better for you.
*** *Ali dawah shakes women hands and says its permissible*
Zafar Warrior *asrar rashid is misguided and got destroyed by abdurahman*
When Shamsi Talk the guys make laugh this is how ignorant are.. I am From Pakistan But Shamsi is on Right
What has your nationality to with it?
@@abdulazeem5443 what does u mean ?
Who cares where you are from or the scrwminv shamsi
To every brothers who thinks that their dheen is their most valuable possession
Please study Arabic and listen directly from Sheikh fowzan , ibn baz, ibn uthaimeen ,...,... Rahimahumullah and read the books of the salaf
And you will know
Spend the time learning Arabic than listening to fellow brothers whom are not scholars
I swear Hamid is so annoying. he likes to interrupt shamsi and even ali
Wallah, he looks like an unstable man.
You two are backbiting him... you are eating his flesh while he is dead...
@@moazdaza7275 is he dead?
lol....
I Don't know if you are aware of the following...
"O you who believe! Avoid much suspicion, in deeds some suspicions are sins. And spy not neither backbite one another. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his dead brother? You would hate it (so hate backbiting). And fear Allah, verily, Allah is the One who accepts repentance, Most Merciful" (Quran 49: 12)
In Islam backbiting someone is as disgusting as eating his flesh after his death...
@@moazdaza7275 bro why are you so emotional? You know this is youtube right? Look at the other comments. All i said is he was annoying. Dont get too emotional brother.
Forget the argument, where’s the social distancing
Thank you
What about the people who were at the beaches legit 2 3 days ago
@@op-xz2pw proven distancing not screaming in others faces .
@@juliehammonds3658 huh? How was the ppl on the beaches proven to be socially distanced? Its a shame because obviously Muslims celebrating eid was more likely to spread the Virus. But, nothing u cab do for the ignorant
@@op-xz2pw was on tv all on net media fooling u all by way pics taken people live areas said was not how tv showed it people with own familys
Ali you and your group have too much problem, I have been watching your videos for long time, you are just trying to create problems, I am from Sierra Leone, you have just analysing people cases and made your own judge and post your videos online, and Islam is not like that bro, if your brother do a mistake call him in pravite and advice him, but is not good for you to analyse somebody mistakes and put it on TH-cam bro, Islam is not call like that bro
Medomilla Bangura he talks to the privately first but either they ignore what he says or just continue creating problem. The videos are last resort
It depends on the mistake. If it is something public, affecting people and that person doesn't accept private advice, it is then necessary to advise publicly.
Reeha how do you explain namsi making Tab’dee on Hijab, Ali, Muneer, Hajji etc? That’s a matter the SCHOLARS only can have a say in. Take your time I’m waiting...
Reeha Not taking sides here sis, just simply stating the TRUTH as you should too.
Shamsi my icon he always right keep it up shamsi...for giving right message to other muslim and non muslim great Islameans submission to god do good deeds and moral values should be high.. like shamsi today has better knowledge
This is sad, two of my favourite people on TH-cam dakwah arguing.
True 😢
Exactly ;(
Wallahi
@Mohamed Milady Fr why would anyone listen to Shamsi 🤢
@Mohamed Milady I have watched his videos in the past and the only thing I got out of them is that he’s really loud and likes to yell instead of having a peaceful talk where I can actually hear both sides
Ali Dawah... Open challenge... "Can I speak... Can I speak..." He says this for 20 minutes... And does not answer brother shamsi
Shia people like to be attractive for the camera..
Because he is not allowed to answer every time he tries to speak he interrupts him
@@km_1s882 haha.
Brothers we are all Muslims we shouldn’t be fighting. Jannah is for all Muslims
Read this article brother
www.abukhadeejah.com/it-is-distasteful-when-we-warn-and-speak-against-the-other-sects/
th-cam.com/video/_fNwU7lo7j0/w-d-xo.html
*They Accuse Us Of Separating And Dividing*
Shaykh Muhammad Nasir Uddeen Al-Albaani [رحمه الله] said:
❝Nowadays, those who criticise us by saying that you people separate and divide!
We ask them, we separate what from what?
We are callers to the Book and the Sunnah and the Manhaj of the Salaf As-Salih, so are you with us?
If he says, 'I am with you', so therefore we have not separated and divided.
If he says, 'No I'm not with you', so therefore then you are the one who has separated from us!❞
[Silsilah Al-Huda Wa Noor, (Tape: 200) | Translated By Abbas Abu Yahya Miraath al-Anbiyya]
The wouldnt hear you or us
They will keep doin slandering, attacking each other in the name of dawa.
And put video in youtube, and islam haters will laugh on us...
I gave advice many many many times and in every video. But they wont listen
Just let them be.. Even they making islam have more bad image. ALLAH will take care of it
May allah guide all of us
seraz victoria Ina lillahi wa ina illeyhi raaji’oon!!! Absolutely and thank you my fellow believer. Is this what Islam is today??Wallahi as a Muslim i’m REALLY embarrassed & emotionally disturbed by what i witnessed & not only this video but multiple ones like it!!! Where’s the TAQWAH of ALLAH?? Where’s the TOWHEAD of ALLAH??? Where’s the SUNNAH of our beloved NABI S.A.W??? Ina lillaahey wa ina illeyhi raaji’oon... Ya Allah forgive our brothers who might be sincere in their hearts and might be misguided blindly and unknowingly. Ya Allah show us the ummah of Nabi Muhammed s.a.w the TRUE HAQQ YA RABBI🤲😰😭.. Alaahuma ya muqallibal quluub thabit qalbi al’llaa diinik.. WALLAHI no doubt we are in aakhiru zamaan! Ya Allah ya rabbi guide us to your TRUTH STRAIGHT PATH and give us a beneficial knowledge. Ameen
Now we know how difficult it was for Moses alaihissalam to deal with the actions of Nabi Khidir..
Why cant ali and shamsi settle whatever their disagreement in a good way? This make everything looks bad
I think the issue is with ego
So damn embarrassing.
I find it really really sorry that Islam does not solve the problem with ego?
@@pessimistkai5569 The problem is not Islam, the answer is Islam.
@@pessimistkai5569 Islam promotes dialouge and friendship, these internet people need to return to Islam
Camera man didn't know about Deen until shamsi came subhan Allah
Stop chatting nonsense, the brother was simply telling Ali to answer the question he was evading.
@@ponderingspirit1475 They're both fools primarily because this was absolute disgusting. These people, including Shamsi, are more tolerant of non-believers, in actual fact they show non-believers far more respect. Shamsi was his attitude and Ali with his ambivalence. These brothers would have been better off not talking to each other, in actual fact, half these corner speakers are better off not talking because the words they say and there insinuations are repulsive.
@@ponderingspirit1475they weren’t even letting him speak 10 seconds without interrupting
Why the hell do you guys do this kind of stuff on camera? What image are you giving to Islam with this? What will the non-Muslims think of Islam?
There is a thing named الولاء و البراء
اللهم أرنا الحق حقّاً و ارزقنا اتباعه و أرنا الباطل باطلًا و ارزقنا اجتنابه🤲🏻
عن ماذا يتناقشون ارجو الرد
If Shamsi and Ali give dawah together it will be better
I like them both 💟
May Allah unite them together ❤️
Upon Qur'an and Sunnah. You should add that to Dua akh
@@ponderingspirit1475 everyone follows Qur'an and sunnah only. It's the methodology in which they understand.
Ali Dawah needs Dawah.
Can they not just sit in a room without a large group and talk? Just an idea...
it should like that.
No they are just like the Sahaba creating chaos
@@tz6706 what do you mean bro
(وَاعتَصِموا بِحَبلِ اللَّهِ جَميعًا وَلا تَفَرَّقوا)
يا أخي يمكن أن تلخص لي من فضلك عن ماذا يتجادلون أنا لا أتحدث الإنجليزية لذالك لم أفهم شيئا
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I'm heart broken !!!, I'm rn watching it and this whole argument is shaking the Ummah ! 💔
Bad look on Islam. L’s everywhere huge egos
Bad look on Ahlul Bid'aa
Shame on them.
L for using the phrase “L”
Jayceon Ronwin but....nvm
Shamsi: “Answer the question.” Ali: “Let me-...”. Shamsi again: “ANSWER THE QUESTION”. Ali: “Okay so-...” Shamsi: “ANSWER THE QUESTION.” Honestly this is embarrassing this kind of talking is wrong and goes against Islamic principles, this is quarrelling not debating. Absolutely shocking and stupid.
True!
Lmaooo
It was against Islam to debate your fellow muslim. They must have forgotten that.
straw man. ali was talking about unrelated things and shamsi called him out on it
Because we have Dome fakers amoung us ,like Ali dawah
shamsi is smart, may Allah protect him, and may Allah guide all them in the video.
Shamsi is arrogant
And very disrespectful towards others
Not only that but shamsi speaks quran and Sunnah according for the understanding of sahaba and he warns against people of misguidance and those who water down Islam
@@Randomhandlename only your opinion. Shamsi is very arrogant and a nationalist. Algerican nationalists are in hell?
He may be more knowledgeable but he lacks manners.
He follows the right path and the correct deen and manhaj obviously
But his only problem is his severe infatuation with the cult like following in salafi publication
May Allah protect me and Brother Shamsi from evils. ameen.
Our brother do you and Shamsi have anything in common?? If he were to analyze your religion in sure he will also accuse you off being an ignoramus or an innovator. Please be careful how you make dua, it's better you make dua for all Muslims to be guided.
Ali dawah is an evil man he’s an ikhwani
@@neilcastro836 صح برغم انا مع شمسي لأنه من اهل الحديث
Muslims arguing amongst each other..amazing dawah, what examples are we setting?
I stand with Shamsi, seriously you have to warn people of someone if you advice him and refused to correct himself.
We need to call people if they are innovators especially when there are non muslims who don't really know Islam. if someone is Takfiri then he's not following the Quran nor the Teaching of the Prophet PBUH nor the Sahaba. imagine if a non muslim comes accross this mindset he wouldn't think twice before rejecting islam, I mean, if you commit a major sin then you are no longer a muslim? you can be killed ..... Astaghfiru Allah.
IF you truly want to identify who is right and who is wrong, just listen to their arguments and see who has Dalil, proofs, Shamsi always speaks with verses from the Quran, Hadiith and even Athar (what is reported about the Prophet PBUH and the Sahab) and he always always quotes a scholars while the others simply argue with their feelings and logic.....
O Allah, let us see the truth as truth and bless us to follow it and let us see the falsehood as falsehood and bless us to refrain from it.
Shamsi got a lot if Knowledge Mashallah
Shamsi isn’t on the true path of the salaf which is Ahmadiyya bruv.
@@hbrotha1866 so tell us the truth?!!!!!!!!!!
Always Shamsi his sayings from the Qur’an and Sunnah, then the Companions, then scholars
@@Alharthiharth Aisha used to breastfeed men
Chapter: Breastfeeding An Adult
Narrated A'isha 'Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet (saw) and said 'O Messenger of Allah (swt), I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abo Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me', The Prophet (saw) said: "Breastfeed him!", She said: "How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man!?" The messenger of Allah (swt) smiled and said 'I know that he is a grown man!'. So she did that, then she came to the Prophet (saw) and said "I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abo Hudhayfah after that. And he was present at the battle of Badar. Ref: Sunnah Ibn Majah, chapter. 36, hadithnumber 1943, page 113.
@@Alharthiharth shamsi is murtad.
@@hbrotha1866 this hadith is not in sunan ibn majah. Did u just randomly referenced it lol?
But Abdul Hameed was the one butting in at every sentence Shamsi was saying. Im an neutral outsider and that was my observation
Yeah they hate Shamsi because he expose them
@@SaidMetiche-qy9hb Shamsi is jahil. To him only few crownies of his cult are true muslim.
@@mahmoodsayeed4 come on brother,i see abdul hameed like christian behaviour.shouting and heckling.so shame.dont be like double standard.
Mariati Mutalip I don’t care I wasn’t taking Abdul Hameed side or defending him but I don’t like Shamsi’s cult for their treatments to other Muslims. I don’t live in UK so I don’t know what you’re talking about. What I see in Speaker’s corner video of Christian missionaries I no way condone.
@@mahmoodsayeed4 you are *jaahil* , a big jaahil.
Shamsi is on haqq. We don't have to compromise on deen with our subjective feelings.
Allah’s Messenger (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) said: “My ummah will divide into 73 sects, all of them will be in the Fire except for one, and that is the Jamā’ah.” It was said, “And who are they, O Allah’s Messenger?” He (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) responded, “That which I and my Companions are upon today.”
Now....
So how many will be in hell fire? 72
And how many are on the straight path? *just 1*
You said "To him(shamsi) only few crownies of his cult are true muslim", right?
And Prophet (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) said only 1 sect of Muslim will be saved from hell fire which means very few will be true muslims.
So now, can you dare to use this your same jaahil ideology when.... Prophet (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) said out of 73 muslim sects only 1 is right !!?
خلاصة الموضوع إلي لابس أزرق إسمه علي دعوة يقلك يجوز التعاون مع اهل البدع ويقول شيخ صالح الفوزان سيؤيد كلامه 😂 والله شر البلية ما يضحك
Shamsi killed it!👌🏼👌🏼😂
He did. He literally killed it for all of us with shouting, name callings and disrespect. If you're his fan please don't cut my head off for not agreeing.
@@googleanassundala5912 He's openly said in multiple videos of his that him shouting is just a part of his personality and he apologizes if it comes off as rude and obnoxious. he's even said that he's working on it so idk why you're trying to assassinate his whole character. theres no such things as fans, we listen to him in SC because he always refers back to the quran and sunnah and always speaks the truth and if he makes a mistake he would always make it apparent
@@googleanassundala5912
Oooh I find cute Muslim crying here 😂
Hey cute put in your mind that we are not the same if we are all of us will go to Jana or nare and no when will cut offf your head except me 😂 cryles
We should boycott them all
If the people of truth remained silent about the people of falsehood, the people of falsehood would have thought that they were right
Very debatable you have to know what context your talking about most people today won't tell the truth about their work place Deen is a very big subject because here's a bomb for you Allah turns who he likes you telling the truth or staying quiet doesn't alter the plan of Allah the job of these two is to spread the Deen with what you know if it is false then those who say they are more knowledgeable should present the knowledge behind closed doors away from the public must be done with respect honour and humbleness most students coming from the Saudi school mentality just wanna win points put brothers down ,know many brothers who were full on practicing brothers then they bumped in to Saudi trained students and drifted they have forgotten the saying of the beloved prophet pbuh when they said take the middle path
This not gd for Islam
Islam will be fine. I am a Christian and I don’t let people like this change the way I view the good Muslim brothers I have.
Nor do I let it make me Anti-Islam.
These guys at Speakers Corner have a big following because of the internet but they don’t speak for all of Islam.
@The Truth Really but what do you know about them. And please do not say a thing unless you have a full understanding of it. Peace🙏
@@elrifle24 thnks
"The most perfect believer in his faith is the one with the best morals." (Narrated by At-Tirmidhi. See Ash-Shahihah)
Wallahi, Allah azza wa jalla always tests human morality from various perspectives. People who have knowledges, Allah tests it with pride. Wealthy people are tested by the attitude of not wanting to give sadaqah. People who have the power to lead are tested by certain things. All human beings trials.
May Allah forgive us all, Amin.
Wallahualam..
I fear Allah . I fear Allah .
Lol are you telling me mohammad had good morals??? Are you serious???
@@eire3215
which Mohammad? If the Mohammad you mention is our beloved prophet, Mohammad shallahu alaihi wa salam, he is a praiseworthy morality... Any problem?
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said:
خَيْرُكُمْ إِسْلَامًا أَحَاسِنُكُمْ أَخْلَاقًا إِذَا فَقُهُوا
The best of you in Islam are those with the best character, if they have religious understanding.
Source: Musnad Ahmad 9880, Grade: Authentic
سبحان الله . قال الله تعالى : ( ادْعُ إِلَى سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ) النحل/ 125.
Shamsi is on Haqq.
waLlahi Akhi
True
Tell me ur a dum* madkhali that suck tawaghit without telling me: