Whoever coached actor Machio on hand and finger positions (I think it was Arlen Roth) did a great job. That and good film editing creates a convincing allusion that Ralph's character is actually doing those arpeggios. Great scene.
lol he isn’t playing any of it. I just watched what he is playing in real time and it’s terrible hahaha. Amazing how easy it is to fool the ears and eyes. Steve and Rye Cooder I think is his name were the only two that played in this duel.
While I admire both this guitarists I used to love Vai's part more (not the ending solo yes I know he played the Paganini part) but as I grow older I love the grittiness of Ry Cooders parts this scene never gets old
The flamingo guitar portion of the duel is called "Eugene's Trick Bag" and was written and played by Steve. It was based on 'Caprice No. 5,' by Nicolo Paganini. It also appears on his "The Elusive Light And Sound, Vol. 1" 2002 compilation album.
I wrote some lyrics for this duel. I really liked this movie. What I like about the movie and this duel, is that it is letting you hear how relevant all music is. Starting from the beginning, it is all relevant and evolved into, all genres, aka the blues, Jazz, Rock and roll, etc. The movie causes a person that loves music in general, to become interested in other styles or genres of music.
Indeed!! It was probably the most influential movie of my youth if only because it introduced me to both the blues and classical Guitar! It really expanded my taste in music.
The last 23 minutes if "Crystal Voyager" a movie released in December 1973 inspired lots to pick up guitar. Although not a movie as such "the Meeting of The Spirits" inspired me as did an early Miles Davis album " in a silent way" 1969 Anything can inspire anyone , if it's good it's good. ;~)
Steve Vai actually did all the guitar for this scene. He worked with Ralph Macchio so it would look like he was really playing. The song in this movie by Ry Cooder is called Feeling Bad Blues and was in the scene where Francis left.
no, Ry Cooder did the Ralph Macchio's part in this duel, with exception of the classical part which was Vai.(Arlen Roth also did some of the slide work in the movie and also coached Macchio on hand positioning on the guitar.
For anyone watching this who either think or say that it's Steve Vai Vs Ry Cooder, I have some news for you.... it's not! Steve Vai had pre-recorded both guitar parts for the battle scene in the movie and they can be heard on Steve's "Ellusive, Light and Sound Vol. 1" album as I had a copy of this album. There were 2 guitar battles performed and recorded for the movie, but the director Walter Hill chose to not include the first guitar duel because he thought it wasn't relevant to the plot of the movie, but the Audio tracks from the battle are on the same Album mentioned here, Titled 'Fried Chicken', (Named after Ry Cooder's back up singers Chicken Skin Music" who performed "Somebody's Calling My Name") and 'Butler's Bag. The last chord of Eugene's Trick Bag is actually is 2 guitar overdub. The chord is played with the high note on a clean tone when Steve used the neck pick up as an extra fret on the high E string and the rest of the chord been overdubbed/mixed with Steve's other guitar with the clean distortion tone.
Total bullshit! Ry Cooder is one of the greatest slide players and guitarists ever and Steve Vai does not have the ability to play like Cooder. Not dismissing Vai as he is also a great talent.
I have both the movie soundtrack albumn as well as Steve Vai's Ellusive Light and Sound albumn that features all of the guitar duel tracks, including the head cuttin' duel "Fried Chicken" that was deleted from the movie. Do some research.
Ry Cooder did the soundtrack for this movie, but he didn't play slide during this scene. It was played by Arlen Roth in Ry's style....He most likely played the classical part too.
God I love that scene. Yeah sure there are issues with it like how most slide players use a different tuning from classical players but who cares? It's still a bone chillingly amazing scene with some incredible music.
I like how the fuckin harmonica guy I forgot his name I haven't seen this movie in a long ass time just starts turning around slowly in amazement when eugenes trickbag begins
Connie', The story of selling one's soul to the devil for some sort of special skill, or short term gain, goes waaaay back before Robert Johnson. One of the most prominent examples is the Faustus legend.
Ry played on the soundtrack, and he may have played Machio's slide parts here, but I think the Paganini solo Ralph plays at the end was actually Vai in the studio. He had to use a Whammy pedal for the high part at the end.
Vai is an interesting guy...pure guitar nerd and Zappa band member (now guitar god) & Cooder may as well be crowned king of World Music. He brought Tex/Mex, Hawiian, Cuban, African and Indian music to the USA on top of his awesome slide work and tasty mandolin. Both guys very dedicated to the craft.
I thought this was a duel between Vai and Cooder, but after reading these comments I can actually hear Vai more in the slide part, they kinda sound like Ry's licks but they sound a little bit more like Steve's
Just a note - Ry Cooder (The legend) pretty much wrote the soundtrack and won an award for best original soundtrack. The "Duel" scene features a lot of Stevie, but the "Machio" part is played by Ry Cooder and Jorge Calderon. The classical fret riffs are unmistakably Jorge where the slide riffs are 100% Ry. I don't get caught up in who's better or best because they all play better than I ever could after years of studying. I seen someone mention Joe Satriani and respectably so, he is that good and a classically trained guitarist. And yes, Jimmy Page is a legend as is Angus and Eddie. I just with people would realize how good people like Ry Cooder, Satriani, Junior Brown, Chet Atkins, and yes. even Slash are. And I really mean no offense so forgive those I upset.. but once you learn how good the classical masters are, the quicker you realize how much Hendrix had to learn. He had skill, he had talent, and he would have been amazing. But the fact is, he was stuck in three cord land.
Totally agree when it comes to, shall we say, range of accomplishment. I've watched people like Vai and Malmsteen and, as a huge Hendrix fan, seen the difference in achievement and asked myself what that difference actually is. The answer I came to was that no matter how fast or technically/musically able someone is, it's not all about that. I'm blown away almost every time I watch Hendrix. I'm impressed when I watch the likes of Vai, I'm utterly bored and rolling around laughing when I watch Malmsteen. As you get to the of that, all be it short, list you see an increase in ego and desire to impress. Hendrix can't be beaten in his ability or sound or style. No one, no matter how good can better him at what he could do, never mind what he couldn't. And who knows what he'd have gone on to do? He was a one off. He changed everything. He died just as he was progressing musically. And look at it like this; standard strat, three pedals, Marshall amp. You can't beat or mistake his sound/style
GetsumJ I agree Getsum J. But as much as I think Vai is a great guitar player, he has his head firmly implanted high up his arse. For that reason, I cannot wam to him. I am glad he got his arse kicked in the movie. It must have been terribly hard for him to accept that role. And for that I give him huge respect.
Bruce Donnellan how would you name this specific kind of blues?, i really like the beat but I can't find any song like this one (or dom't know where to look).
I've never thought to put a name to this piece of music. There is rock mixed with some blues and even some classical and it has been put together really well. Because the movie is about blues and Steve Vai plays a rockin guitar, I guess I would call it rockin blues. If I feel it, thats good enough for me.
Matias Mena. There is plenty out the Matias. Search more of Ry Cooder and Steve Vai to start with. You probably know these names already, George Thorogood, Jeff Healy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Z.Z. Top all have some stuff like what you're looking for. Keep searching, you will find it. If not, try playing some yourself, you can do it.
that is good to know ,because someone told me that vai played everything.i guess they were wrong,and i've never seen vai play slide! although i'm shure he has.
The blues is the souls soul the rest is just basic music played fast or slow! thats why the folk blues soul gave so much to good old rock and roll! pop,rap and the hybrid crap has no soul but it takes a life time to realize it! God bless Rock/Blues/Folk
Ry Cooder??? Ralph Macchio!!! Crossroads is a 1986 musical comedy-drama film starring Ralph Macchio, Joe Seneca and Jami Gertz, inspired by the legend of blues musician, Robert Johnson.
The Devil and Robert Johnson: Did the Blues Legend Really Sell His Soul at the Crossroads? "How could this kid, who was lousy enough to get kicked off the stage in Robinsonville, return just a year later as the most talented blues guitarist in the Delta? To the stunned crowd in Banks, Mississippi, there was only one explanation - Johnson had made a deal with the devil." entertainment.howstuffworks.com/devil-and-robert-johnson.htm
You all should listen to Niccolo Paganinis 24 caprices..change your lfe..This a segment of the 5th Caprice...Jason Becker rips the whole thing on here in youtube..the10th caprice is even harder to play...
let's get the story straight.... Steve Vai is an incredible guitar player,you have to be to play and record albums with Frank Zappa.....but everyone starts somewhere and Via took guitar lessons from Joe Satriani..
man! can someone do a tutorial from the beggining till 2:36?....i really love this song and want to learn it...thanks in advance!!!....or does Vai has a tutorial about it ? thnx!
It's Paganini at the end actually, not Mozart. Well, it's Vai's take on a famous Violin piece Paganini wrote. Paganini was a violinist from the early/mid 1800s who was so fucking good, people thought he sold his soul to the devil for his talent. Story sound familiar?
I always come back to this duel!! Shock and awe every time I watch it. Thrilling guitar work. I can’t believe this was 35 years ago!!!!!
Whoever coached actor Machio on hand and finger positions (I think it was Arlen Roth) did a great job. That and good film editing creates a convincing allusion that
Ralph's character is actually doing those arpeggios. Great scene.
lol he isn’t playing any of it. I just watched what he is playing in real time and it’s terrible hahaha. Amazing how easy it is to fool the ears and eyes. Steve and Rye Cooder I think is his name were the only two that played in this duel.
This still gives me chills after 30 years...
What a heart-catching blues, so amazing played!!! It is something bright & uncanny! Super!
While I admire both this guitarists I used to love Vai's part more (not the ending solo yes I know he played the Paganini part) but as I grow older I love the grittiness of Ry Cooders parts this scene never gets old
The flamingo guitar portion of the duel is called "Eugene's Trick Bag" and was written and played by Steve. It was based on 'Caprice No. 5,' by Nicolo Paganini. It also appears on his "The Elusive Light And Sound, Vol. 1" 2002 compilation album.
I wrote some lyrics for this duel. I really liked this movie. What I like about the movie and this duel, is that it is letting you hear how relevant all music is. Starting from the beginning, it is all relevant and evolved into, all genres, aka the blues, Jazz, Rock and roll, etc. The movie causes a person that loves music in general, to become interested in other styles or genres of music.
This movie is unbelievable and was highly underrated. Still my favorite in a music movie. Kudos to Ry Cooder for this gem.
Indeed!! It was probably the most influential movie of my youth if only because it introduced me to both the blues and classical Guitar! It really expanded my taste in music.
The last 23 minutes if "Crystal Voyager" a movie released in December 1973 inspired lots to pick up guitar.
Although not a movie as such "the Meeting of The Spirits" inspired me as did an early Miles Davis album " in a silent way" 1969
Anything can inspire anyone , if it's good it's good.
;~)
Eddie Van Halen vs Steve Vai guitar duel would be bad ass.
Steve Vai actually did all the guitar for this scene. He worked with Ralph Macchio so it would look like he was really playing. The song in this movie by Ry Cooder is called Feeling Bad Blues and was in the scene where Francis left.
no, Ry Cooder did the Ralph Macchio's part in this duel, with exception of the classical part which was Vai.(Arlen Roth also did some of the slide work in the movie and also coached Macchio on hand positioning on the guitar.
Sounded awesome in the theatre!🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
RY COODER is a genius guitar player,this is what years of practice sounds like,damn what a six stringer he is
Cuttin' heads is the best part of this whole damn movie!
I wish wars were replaced by guitar duels
I love you
I also love you
Yes please.
I definitely love you. Great idea!
But then what about the 3 year old asian prodigies?
The Mozart? is actually Paganini 5th Caprice. Awesome clip, I love this movie.
For anyone watching this who either think or say that it's Steve Vai Vs Ry Cooder, I have some news for you.... it's not!
Steve Vai had pre-recorded both guitar parts for the battle scene in the movie and they can be heard on Steve's "Ellusive, Light and Sound Vol. 1" album as I had a copy of this album.
There were 2 guitar battles performed and recorded for the movie, but the director Walter Hill chose to not include the first guitar duel because he thought it wasn't relevant to the plot of the movie, but the Audio tracks from the battle are on the same Album mentioned here, Titled 'Fried Chicken', (Named after Ry Cooder's back up singers Chicken Skin Music" who performed "Somebody's Calling My Name") and 'Butler's Bag.
The last chord of Eugene's Trick Bag is actually is 2 guitar overdub.
The chord is played with the high note on a clean tone when Steve used the neck pick up as an extra fret on the high E string and the rest of the chord been overdubbed/mixed with Steve's other guitar with the clean distortion tone.
Total bullshit! Ry Cooder is one of the greatest slide players and guitarists ever and Steve Vai does not have the ability to play like Cooder. Not dismissing Vai as he is also a great talent.
I have both the movie soundtrack albumn as well as Steve Vai's Ellusive Light and Sound albumn that features all of the guitar duel tracks, including the head cuttin' duel "Fried Chicken" that was deleted from the movie.
Do some research.
William Dines Thanks for your information man, very imformative. I just like the music man.
Thanks for that info! It's eargasm in anycase :)
The first part of the duel (head cutting) was Steve Vai and Ry Cooder (playing the slide part)
Ry Cooder did the soundtrack for this movie, but he didn't play slide during this scene. It was played by Arlen Roth in Ry's style....He most likely played the classical part too.
Love this duel by two great legends.
God I love that scene. Yeah sure there are issues with it like how most slide players use a different tuning from classical players but who cares? It's still a bone chillingly amazing scene with some incredible music.
I just have to say the part at the end was a caprice by paganini not mozart
Correct. Caprice #5. You should see how classical guitarists play it!
flickrmark Ok show me, I'd love to see it!
conniemadjohnnie Tried to put link here but failed. Damn. Anyway, enter "Paganini Caprice 5 Eliot Fisk". Audio only. He's insane ;-)
It's pretty sick man
24th Caprice, right? I wanted to be sure also.
Now THAT, is a fucking jam session !
Hm, what can I say ... Maybe it my jaw drpped under my knees? Or it that the trio is so excellent, no words are needn't? I think so!
one of my favorite movies, got me playing guitar slide
Good Lord, almost 30 years ago....
I like how the fuckin harmonica guy I forgot his name I haven't seen this movie in a long ass time just starts turning around slowly in amazement when eugenes trickbag begins
Shows how much I know... Thanks!
I love when I hit the right note and an orchestra spontaneously plays along with me.
I love Vai & Cooder 😎🎸
the slide work is Cooder the Paganini is all Vai. called Eugene's trick bag.
Connie', The story of selling one's soul to the devil for some sort of special skill, or short term gain, goes waaaay back before Robert Johnson. One of the most prominent examples is the Faustus legend.
I simply love it 😍
Superbe film, sur la route du blues. J'ai la vidéo mais il me semble n'être à ce jour pas sorti en DVD !
friggin Mark is a Nut analyst cant just sit back and enjoy life. Most awesome piece of music ever....dueling bangos is 2nd...awesome talent...
What does it really matter anyway? It's some awesome stuff Right?
Ry played on the soundtrack, and he may have played Machio's slide parts here, but I think the Paganini solo Ralph plays at the end was actually Vai in the studio. He had to use a Whammy pedal for the high part at the end.
Delightful. . . .
uhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! muitooooooo doiiiiiiiido!!!!!!!!
Exactly my sentiment Mick. Not FULL version
Vai is an interesting guy...pure guitar nerd and Zappa band member (now guitar god) & Cooder may as well be crowned king of World Music. He brought Tex/Mex, Hawiian, Cuban, African and Indian music to the USA on top of his awesome slide work and tasty mandolin. Both guys very dedicated to the craft.
Ry did the soundtrack for this movie....he didn't play the slide in this scene. Arlen Roth played....
I thought this was a duel between Vai and Cooder, but after reading these comments I can actually hear Vai more in the slide part, they kinda sound like Ry's licks but they sound a little bit more like Steve's
Still sounds Da same! Perfect
the film is called Crossroads with Ralph Macchio
MR, ARLIN ROTH, GREAT GUITARIST SELF TAUGHT,
USED TO WRITE A LOT FOR RAGS IN THE 80s, TREMENDOUS
PLAYER AND TEACHER.
Soul always wins.
+sherall123 Soul with Technique ;)
Two of the best in the world!
It was a great movie.
Strava, dear Boys!
There is no "e" in Ry, but a great track :)
perfect ....... !!!!!!!
This track is all Vai.
Just a note - Ry Cooder (The legend) pretty much wrote the soundtrack and won an award for best original soundtrack. The "Duel" scene features a lot of Stevie, but the "Machio" part is played by Ry Cooder and Jorge Calderon. The classical fret riffs are unmistakably Jorge where the slide riffs are 100% Ry. I don't get caught up in who's better or best because they all play better than I ever could after years of studying. I seen someone mention Joe Satriani and respectably so, he is that good and a classically trained guitarist. And yes, Jimmy Page is a legend as is Angus and Eddie. I just with people would realize how good people like Ry Cooder, Satriani, Junior Brown, Chet Atkins, and yes. even Slash are. And I really mean no offense so forgive those I upset.. but once you learn how good the classical masters are, the quicker you realize how much Hendrix had to learn. He had skill, he had talent, and he would have been amazing. But the fact is, he was stuck in three cord land.
Totally agree when it comes to, shall we say, range of accomplishment. I've watched people like Vai and Malmsteen and, as a huge Hendrix fan, seen the difference in achievement and asked myself what that difference actually is. The answer I came to was that no matter how fast or technically/musically able someone is, it's not all about that. I'm blown away almost every time I watch Hendrix. I'm impressed when I watch the likes of Vai, I'm utterly bored and rolling around laughing when I watch Malmsteen. As you get to the of that, all be it short, list you see an increase in ego and desire to impress. Hendrix can't be beaten in his ability or sound or style. No one, no matter how good can better him at what he could do, never mind what he couldn't. And who knows what he'd have gone on to do? He was a one off. He changed everything. He died just as he was progressing musically. And look at it like this; standard strat, three pedals, Marshall amp. You can't beat or mistake his sound/style
Spot on!!
GetsumJ I agree Getsum J. But as much as I think Vai is a great guitar player, he has his head firmly implanted high up his arse. For that reason, I cannot wam to him.
I am glad he got his arse kicked in the movie.
It must have been terribly hard for him to accept that role.
And for that I give him huge respect.
When I hear music that makes me pick my harmonica up and blow some blues, I know the music is GOOD.
Bruce Donnellan how would you name this specific kind of blues?, i really like the beat but I can't find any song like this one (or dom't know where to look).
I've never thought to put a name to this piece of music. There is rock mixed with some blues and even some classical and it has been put together really well.
Because the movie is about blues and Steve Vai plays a rockin guitar, I guess I would call it rockin blues.
If I feel it, thats good enough for me.
Yeah. but, I meant the part after Vai loses and everybody celebrates. I really want to listen more music like that "party-ish blues".
Matias Mena. There is plenty out the Matias. Search more of Ry Cooder and Steve Vai to start with. You probably know these names already, George Thorogood, Jeff Healy, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Z.Z. Top all have some stuff like what you're looking for. Keep searching, you will find it. If not, try playing some yourself, you can do it.
Matias Mena gfgctff
I wanna learn this duel on acoustic... it is possible.
Ry Cooder plays Macchio's guitar part in the movie.
fantastično !
I believe Steve Vai actually played all the parts on this...Ry Cooder did the incidental music through the film and was credited with the soundtrack
Le duel final est trop top... asta la vista baby
The end is Caprice 24 composed by Paganini. It was played by Vai.
that is good to know ,because someone told me that vai played everything.i guess they were wrong,and i've never seen vai play slide! although i'm shure he has.
Someone should made this a DLC for Guitar Hero or Rock Band for sure... I'd stay playing this.
buenisimo
brilliant playing know cooder not vai till now but i think full marks go to the producer ?
Cool slide guitar playing by young Jari Litmanen, legendary glass ankle.
and i giggle
Beauty
what if find fascinating is they compliment each other with background rhythm while other plays lead to keep the beat goin
if vai is the debbil, that truly does make satch god :D
Merci steav
The blues is the souls soul the rest is just basic music played fast or slow! thats why the folk blues soul gave so much to good old rock and roll! pop,rap and the hybrid crap has no soul but it takes a life time to realize it! God bless Rock/Blues/Folk
What have we learned here? Rock beats Blues, and Classical Beats Rock.
... Steve Vai & Ry Cooder - Crossroad Blues Duel ...
I just wish this is what bars were like today.
This scene was called Eugenes trick bag.
this video is only half on the original "duel"
I believe Steve Played both parts.
Não é a versão completa. Já começa na metade
Actually the last part is not Mozart. It is Paganini's violin caprice no. 5.
I'm sorry but if I was about to become a slave I don't think I'd be this calm, dancing and singing along...
Oh the guitar work by Vai is amazing as well :P
本物を見てみたい〜アップありがとう
Ry Cooder??? Ralph Macchio!!! Crossroads is a 1986 musical comedy-drama film starring Ralph Macchio, Joe Seneca and Jami Gertz, inspired by the legend of blues musician, Robert Johnson.
The Devil and Robert Johnson: Did the Blues Legend Really Sell His Soul at the Crossroads?
"How could this kid, who was lousy enough to get kicked off the stage in Robinsonville, return just a year later as the most talented blues guitarist in the Delta? To the stunned crowd in Banks, Mississippi, there was only one explanation - Johnson had made a deal with the devil."
entertainment.howstuffworks.com/devil-and-robert-johnson.htm
3:13
Anyone know the red guitar name it sounds great
You all should listen to Niccolo Paganinis 24 caprices..change your lfe..This a segment of the 5th Caprice...Jason Becker rips the whole thing on here in youtube..the10th caprice is even harder to play...
Steve Vai did all the guitar work. Ry cooder had a song in the movie.
RY SURE LOOKS DIFFERENT IN THIS VIDEO !!
At the end of the duel, Vai's character can't duplicate his opponent's playing, and his head explodes.
Karate kid is one talented fucker :))
He doesn't play this solo ;)
I know, i was joking :))
To be honest he's not a very good martial artist either. lol
RALPH MACHIO SUCKS!!!!! RY COODER PLAYED EVERYTHING IN THIS MOVIE EXCEPT THIS PART... Both Parts Were played by Steve Vai...
Chad Bedwell Wow , I did not know that!
Loads missing of this video. Like Jack Butler trying to copy the Mozart bit. And the deal with the devil (dude in the hat) before the duel.
let's get the story straight.... Steve Vai is an incredible guitar player,you have to be to play and record albums with Frank Zappa.....but everyone starts somewhere and Via took guitar lessons from Joe Satriani..
man! can someone do a tutorial from the beggining till 2:36?....i really love this song and want to learn it...thanks in advance!!!....or does Vai has a tutorial about it ? thnx!
it was the Niccolò Paganini song not mozart
Ralph Machio, King of The Delta Blues. He obviously learned a lot from Blind Lemon Rutland.
why cant steve hit that note? he has 22 frets, 44 pick ups and a floating trem?
+10000! i know, right? david gilmore might have been a challenge, watch echoes live at pompeii.
Neil McIntosh 44 pick ups?! Wow, how does he insure them all?
all this guitar was recorded by steve vai, ralph machio did nothing. but i love this movie, williie brow
its just a movie, people!!
It's Paganini at the end actually, not Mozart. Well, it's Vai's take on a famous Violin piece Paganini wrote. Paganini was a violinist from the early/mid 1800s who was so fucking good, people thought he sold his soul to the devil for his talent. Story sound familiar?
Yup... Paganini Caprese 5 if I remember correctly. And it is indeed Vai playing it.
스티브바이 정말 기타리스트들의 기타리스트 ...
A little thing. Ry Cooder isn't named "Rye". :)
It's Head Cuttin Duel.
its not mozart... its paganinni.
Did the camera come with the 2 fruit tin options.
what kind of music its the first jamm of Steve Vai?