Thanks for sharing the information on the video, very informative. What I thought it was snake skin it was acutely crocodile skin. Amazing what you can learn from others who are willing to share. I wish you a lot of success in your future videos!
Yes the stingray nodules give unmatched durability, it is still going very strong on my watch strap. I think when leathercrafters use good materials they can easily rival high end brands.
You're welcome. When I make a video with this stingray I will be sure to add some stitching. For now, using a round punch chisel is most likely to give you good results compared to a diamond chisel or pricking iron.
Hi, would like to ask, im planning on customing an exotic bifold wallet, but my options are either getting ostrich leg leather bi fold or lizard leather bi fold. Would like to ask for ur opinion. 1. Which will last longer? 2. Which is more durable? 3. Which need to be less taken care off? Thank you, you make awesome videos🙏🏻
Thank you for the suggestion. A zippered wallet with stingray would be interesting. You would likely have to stitch the zipper to the lining and then glue the stingray to the lining after.
I have an ostrich leg that I purchased about a year ago, I wasn't sure how I was going to use it. I was worried about whether it needed backing and if the edges would burnish. You covered all of my concerns. Thank you for this wonderful video. I just subscribed to your channel.
You are most welcome! Of the ones in the video it would be stingray but because the hard nodules can actually make it scratch resistant. For a flexible leather, then shell cordovan (horse) would be the most durable if it can be considered exotic.
@@CARDGAMBIT Unfortunately I do not make products for sale, I currently only make TH-cam videos. I am sure there are other leather workers that would be interested in taking up your commission.
I use sting Ray to cover antique pocket watch cases commonly known as shagreen , do you have any experience in this field, if so any tips or your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I have a longbow I made out of and osage orange tree. I want a handle wrap for it and have a piece of stringray leather (whole large hide actually). Any tips?
That sounds like an interesting project and stingray would be very suitable. My only tip would be to use a baseball stitch on the seam which is good for wrapping handles.
You are most welcome! Conditioners works best for exotic leathers as waxes generally don't penetrate well into the skins. Angelus make a conditioner specific to exotic leathers which I use.
Yes I have some successful projects with stingray held together only by glue. Stitching should be kept to a minimum as it does not look that great over the stingray nodules.
Dude said tilapia are delicious too, I’m like, well so are most of the other ones you mentioned! (Never had stingray tho…is that something people eat?)
Thank you! It is called a dial thickness gauge (0-10 mm model). I use a cheap generic model which works fine, you can find them for around 5-10 dollars on any online marketplace.
Croc, Aligator Lizard, and python skins are difficult to bring to Canada. it has to be with a Cite certificate, but you can buy seal skin online, which is banned in most countries of the world.
@@TeranAtelier Seal leather is gorgeous! I would be great if managed to buy some! Seals are more known for their beautiful fur but they give unique leather too. (And here is another reason why I hate animal protectors...)
@@lukasbejcek8841 Seal products are banned in the EU, USA, and many other countries due to the leather with fur are best when they are several days old and seal hunters hacked to death the animal and take their hide, why it is banned, but only allow to the northern native people to harvest and sell seal products.
@@bazlur-Vancouver Yes it is because of the animal activists’ pressure. But realize it is completely emotional. "Several days old" babies sounds horribly but we kill chickens and many other animal babies. We are on the top of the food chain and I think killing babies is acceptable if it is reasonable from the human perspective (because of the meat quality, the skin quality etc). We may admit killing several days old seals is ethically questionable but at least harvesting older seals should be permitted without restrictions. As a leather and fur lover, I am a little sad that such an excellent skin is getting out of the sortiment. Seals have been hunted for thousands years and they are not endangered. Inuits are allowed to hunt them but they are meeting low demand for the seal products because of the anti-sealing madness. It is a clear example what consequences absurd animal protection can have.
A bit of glue under the scale may help. The prime section of the ostrich leg is the middle section where the scales are completely adhered and the scale pattern is most regular. Exotic skins are all very unique which makes it good and bad, you just need to use and make the most out of the good sections.
@TheGizmoGremlin Carnauba Cream should not be used, the website says it is only for smooth leather. I haven't tried any Sedgwick products, Fiebing's has always been more accessible for me.
It is easy to see if you have the full skin in front of you but might be more difficult if it is already part of a product. For the exotic hides with scales you should be able to see the 3D shape of each individual scale around their edges. Printed scales look flat under close inspection and it will be clear that the scale pattern is simply pressed into originally flat leather.
A very interesting video! I love leather, I use it everywhere where possible! My only exotic piece is my aligator watch strap, but I am going to do more experiments... I hate animal protectors who try to make us wearing exotic leather as much as possible... Maybe you have some troubles with them too. I know some animals which are really rare have to be protected but only those that are REALLY endangered. Animals have to be for humans to exploit in a reasonable amount. Humans use various natural resources and animal skin sure belongs among them. For me, it is really pleasure to see the skin processed in a beautiful product...
Thank you! The best way is to source your leather from ethical farms and tanneries so there will be no ethical issues of using animal skins. Leather is still a great material to be used and very sustainable and long lasting. If you are looking for a very eco-friendly leather then try experimenting with fish leathers.
@@TeranAtelier Thank you for the tip! I like shark leather for example (though it is no fish, I think :)). In my opinion, any leather is more eco-friendly than synthetics! Crying over a dead animal is ridiculous since we realize that. Btw do you personally wear leather strapped watches (exotic or common leather)? I am just curious because watch strap is one of places where I love leather...
@@lukasbejcek8841 Yes right now I am using a navy leather watch strap I made, you can see it some of the video thumbnails. I am also a huge fan of leather watch straps and I am planning to craft one for the channel soon. Just don't let the leather get wet!
@@TeranAtelier WOW! Yes I saw the thumbnails but I haven’t seen your watch on your wrist during the videos, so I doubted whether the hand with watch is yours:)! That’s great it is your own work - and maybe it’s a shame you dont wear it during the work! Seems nice but thumbails dont say much... :) And make a video of making a watch strap sure! In fact, watch strap is a piece of leather we touch most of the daytime - the most of all leather items! Yes leather is a bit impractical since we have to unstrap our waches before having a bath :). That’s leather... I hate raining because I usually wear my leather bag and sometimes my leather jacket... :( But I dont mind I have to change my leather straps from time to time - I always look forward to my new piece... Of course, I hope my alligator won’t get wet soon ;) (he had enough bath during his lifetime :D)
How can fish leather be more sustainable if it requires a backing? In my experience, exotics provide the same function as dye or paint, not really affecting structure
You could use a non-leather backing such as a textile to support the fish leather. I think it depends what type of exotic skin you are working with as some exotics can be thick enough. You can choose whether you want to show the flesh side of your exotic skin or line it for aesthetic reasons.
I could be considered a member of a sub-culture some people call "vulture culture". I collect skulls, bones and skins. I've never made leather so to speak, only arriving at raw hides that can still rot if wet. I've practiced on roadkill cats, dogs, sheep and even snakes. Reticulated python is indeed very flimsy and fragile. I would have to glue it on top of some other leather. Surprisingly, cat is quite tough and might do well as a shoe upper, especially at the back/neck area.
It is natural. Since we are on the top of food chain, we eat meat from animals and we wear their skins as leather. Animal lives are not "lost" if they serve human needs well. I can’t see anything bad if an animal is not eaten by a predator but used for a beautiful watch strap, for example. Anyway, I don’t know why you comment a video about leathercraft if you disagree with using animals for leather.
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What a professional tutorial. I felt like I was in a design class with a really knowledgeable professor. Thank you so much.
I am so glad you found it helpful!
I think a stingray purse or belt pouch would be awesome, and use the eye holes to thread a strap through to fasten it closed.
That's a good idea but I have already started on a sting ray wallet 😂
@@TeranAtelier whose to say you can’t do both? (I’m very optimistic when it comes to making things).
Thanks for sharing the information on the video, very informative. What I thought it was snake skin it was acutely crocodile skin. Amazing what you can learn from others who are willing to share. I wish you a lot of success in your future videos!
I am so glad you found it helpful. Thank you for your support!
I second the sentiment. I'm heading into the unknown of leather craft and really appreciate the information I'm getting from Teran's videos.
Thanks for sharing this. Love the lesson. I would love to see a Stingray watch strap made
Thanks! Great suggestion.
Lol can you say, "careful what you wish for!"
Good job at Teran Atelier! Getting it done for the leathercraft community!
High quality. When you own a stingray wallet, it can last as long as a Louis Vuitton wallet but at a much cheaper price.
Yes the stingray nodules give unmatched durability, it is still going very strong on my watch strap. I think when leathercrafters use good materials they can easily rival high end brands.
@@TeranAtelier Easily outdo many of them imo
It would destroy Louis Vuitton
King toad and snapping turtle leather on boots are by far my favorites.
I have not had a chance to work with those leathers but they sound interesting.
Good explanation! I'd like to see more project like wallets or bags with these materials.
Thank you! I have a crocodile project coming up so stay tuned.
Thank you for sharing this precious information.
i wish if you can demonstrate how to mark & stitch stingray skin
You're welcome. When I make a video with this stingray I will be sure to add some stitching. For now, using a round punch chisel is most likely to give you good results compared to a diamond chisel or pricking iron.
Hi, would like to ask, im planning on customing an exotic bifold wallet, but my options are either getting ostrich leg leather bi fold or lizard leather bi fold. Would like to ask for ur opinion.
1. Which will last longer?
2. Which is more durable?
3. Which need to be less taken care off?
Thank you, you make awesome videos🙏🏻
Love the color red on exotic leather all my boots are red I now have 12 pairs and I love them
Red is one of my favorite leather colors too, I find it works really well with black accents.
Would be great to see how you make some exotic leather bracelets, and some zippered wallets with stingray, to show how to glue it!
Thank you for the suggestion. A zippered wallet with stingray would be interesting. You would likely have to stitch the zipper to the lining and then glue the stingray to the lining after.
I have an ostrich leg that I purchased about a year ago, I wasn't sure how I was going to use it. I was worried about whether it needed backing and if the edges would burnish. You covered all of my concerns. Thank you for this wonderful video. I just subscribed to your channel.
You are most welcome! Good luck with your ostrich project!
Gracias por la explicación.👏👍
I’ve never heard of tilapia leather! Love the video!
Thanks! They are a bit small so that is why they might be less popular than salmon.
This is good info. Some leathers are fitted for specific items than others.
Yes, it is best to have a project in mind when you buy leather.
I love porosus crocodile leather
You have a very keen eye
thank you, there was alot of helpful hints in the video
Glad it was helpful!
Ahhh, this is an old video. I was going to say to make a snake skin wallet! and lizard skin wallet. Anyway thanks for the videos
I have made most of those already, check out my more recent videos.
Thank you for the great video. Which exotic hide leather/skin is most durable to you? To be used on higher wear use items. Thanks!
You are most welcome! Of the ones in the video it would be stingray but because the hard nodules can actually make it scratch resistant. For a flexible leather, then shell cordovan (horse) would be the most durable if it can be considered exotic.
Great video, excellent information, thank you for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
I would love to see a portable cigar case for two or three cigars made out of the Stingray.
That would be an interesting project, but I am not a cigar person.
@@TeranAtelier you don’t have to be, it’s just a case of following a simple design. How much would you charge me for one?
@@CARDGAMBIT Unfortunately I do not make products for sale, I currently only make TH-cam videos. I am sure there are other leather workers that would be interested in taking up your commission.
I wish I have the Kelly pattern.
You can find patterns for those iconic handbags online. They will not be too expensive compared to your crocodile skins.
I have 3 completed croc skin finished,and don't know what to do with them. 😆
I use sting Ray to cover antique pocket watch cases commonly known as shagreen , do you have any experience in this field, if so any tips or your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
I have not done anything like that before but it does sound interesting.
Just subscribed and looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
Awesome! Thank you!
I have a longbow I made out of and osage orange tree. I want a handle wrap for it and have a piece of stringray leather (whole large hide actually). Any tips?
That sounds like an interesting project and stingray would be very suitable. My only tip would be to use a baseball stitch on the seam which is good for wrapping handles.
How do you finish the alligator? Wax or conditioner? Thanks for the video.
Or crocodile. Same question.
You are most welcome! Conditioners works best for exotic leathers as waxes generally don't penetrate well into the skins. Angelus make a conditioner specific to exotic leathers which I use.
Thank you
You're welcome!
Would glueing the stingray leather over lining be enough to last? Without stitching would it warp?
Yes I have some successful projects with stingray held together only by glue. Stitching should be kept to a minimum as it does not look that great over the stingray nodules.
Dude said tilapia are delicious too, I’m like, well so are most of the other ones you mentioned! (Never had stingray tho…is that something people eat?)
😂😂 I think people do eat stingray but I haven't seen it available.
Other than Ostrich and Alligator, I cannot find any of these. Where would one find these other ones?
It depends where you are based. Try having a look at Rojé Exotics, they sell all sorts of exotic leathers.
Great information you have a new subscriber
Thank you for the support!
Great video. Do you by chance plan on doing a stingray wallet tutorial as well since you already covered one with ostrich and crocodile?
Thanks! I do have plans for stingray wallet very soon.
@@TeranAtelier thanks, looking forward to it!
Thanks bro
You're Welcome
Beautiful explanations for beginners, you just got a new subscriber. Can you name the tool (and maybe a link) with which you measure the thickness?
Thank you! It is called a dial thickness gauge (0-10 mm model). I use a cheap generic model which works fine, you can find them for around 5-10 dollars on any online marketplace.
Croc, Aligator Lizard, and python skins are difficult to bring to Canada. it has to be with a Cite certificate, but you can buy seal skin online, which is banned in most countries of the world.
I have never heard of seal skin before but definitely sound interesting. Try it out.
@@TeranAtelier Seal leather is gorgeous! I would be great if managed to buy some! Seals are more known for their beautiful fur but they give unique leather too. (And here is another reason why I hate animal protectors...)
@@lukasbejcek8841 Seal sounds really interesting but it would be difficult get hold of some.
@@lukasbejcek8841 Seal products are banned in the EU, USA, and many other countries due to the leather with fur are best when they are several days old and seal hunters hacked to death the animal and take their hide, why it is banned, but only allow to the northern native people to harvest and sell seal products.
@@bazlur-Vancouver Yes it is because of the animal activists’ pressure. But realize it is completely emotional. "Several days old" babies sounds horribly but we kill chickens and many other animal babies. We are on the top of the food chain and I think killing babies is acceptable if it is reasonable from the human perspective (because of the meat quality, the skin quality etc). We may admit killing several days old seals is ethically questionable but at least harvesting older seals should be permitted without restrictions. As a leather and fur lover, I am a little sad that such an excellent skin is getting out of the sortiment. Seals have been hunted for thousands years and they are not endangered. Inuits are allowed to hunt them but they are meeting low demand for the seal products because of the anti-sealing madness. It is a clear example what consequences absurd animal protection can have.
Excellent video. Can you please share where to buy these exotic hides.
Thanks! I got these from facebook.com/thaiandswat
I need a coyote fur belt, or coyote fur to make a belt. Where can I get it?
Sorry I am not familiar with any suppliers of coyote related products.
Recently purchased ostrich leg on sale (1st time). I noticed some parts of center scales are not adhered down. How do you deal with that?
A bit of glue under the scale may help. The prime section of the ostrich leg is the middle section where the scales are completely adhered and the scale pattern is most regular. Exotic skins are all very unique which makes it good and bad, you just need to use and make the most out of the good sections.
What finish and care would you recommend for these exotic leathers? Thanks in advance.
I find a light leather conditioner such as Fiebing's '4 Way Care' is the best. Thicker wax type conditioners do not work well for exotic leathers.
@@TeranAtelier Thank you already, so Fiebing's carnauba creme should not be used. Are you familiar with Sedgwick & Co. original Leather Care?
@TheGizmoGremlin Carnauba Cream should not be used, the website says it is only for smooth leather. I haven't tried any Sedgwick products, Fiebing's has always been more accessible for me.
@@TeranAtelier thanks!
How do you know if it’s genuine and not print
It is easy to see if you have the full skin in front of you but might be more difficult if it is already part of a product. For the exotic hides with scales you should be able to see the 3D shape of each individual scale around their edges. Printed scales look flat under close inspection and it will be clear that the scale pattern is simply pressed into originally flat leather.
A very interesting video! I love leather, I use it everywhere where possible! My only exotic piece is my aligator watch strap, but I am going to do more experiments... I hate animal protectors who try to make us wearing exotic leather as much as possible... Maybe you have some troubles with them too. I know some animals which are really rare have to be protected but only those that are REALLY endangered. Animals have to be for humans to exploit in a reasonable amount. Humans use various natural resources and animal skin sure belongs among them. For me, it is really pleasure to see the skin processed in a beautiful product...
Thank you! The best way is to source your leather from ethical farms and tanneries so there will be no ethical issues of using animal skins. Leather is still a great material to be used and very sustainable and long lasting. If you are looking for a very eco-friendly leather then try experimenting with fish leathers.
@@TeranAtelier Thank you for the tip! I like shark leather for example (though it is no fish, I think :)). In my opinion, any leather is more eco-friendly than synthetics! Crying over a dead animal is ridiculous since we realize that. Btw do you personally wear leather strapped watches (exotic or common leather)? I am just curious because watch strap is one of places where I love leather...
@@lukasbejcek8841 Yes right now I am using a navy leather watch strap I made, you can see it some of the video thumbnails. I am also a huge fan of leather watch straps and I am planning to craft one for the channel soon. Just don't let the leather get wet!
@@TeranAtelier WOW! Yes I saw the thumbnails but I haven’t seen your watch on your wrist during the videos, so I doubted whether the hand with watch is yours:)! That’s great it is your own work - and maybe it’s a shame you dont wear it during the work! Seems nice but thumbails dont say much... :) And make a video of making a watch strap sure! In fact, watch strap is a piece of leather we touch most of the daytime - the most of all leather items! Yes leather is a bit impractical since we have to unstrap our waches before having a bath :). That’s leather... I hate raining because I usually wear my leather bag and sometimes my leather jacket... :( But I dont mind I have to change my leather straps from time to time - I always look forward to my new piece... Of course, I hope my alligator won’t get wet soon ;) (he had enough bath during his lifetime :D)
@@lukasbejcek8841 Haha yes! Thank you, that's an excellent idea, I will wear my watch in my next video :)
what trusted retailer do you reccomend to source exotic leather?
I get my exotics from facebook.com/thaiandswat just note that exotics cannot be imported to some countries.
Where can i buy this type of leather.anylink please
I got these exotic leathers from a shop when I was in Bangkok: facebook.com/thaiandswat/. I am not sure whether they can ship internationally.
Is that colour normal colour? That snake is it realy red?
No, the natural colour is beige with dark brown stripes. That snake skin has been dyed red.
How can fish leather be more sustainable if it requires a backing? In my experience, exotics provide the same function as dye or paint, not really affecting structure
You could use a non-leather backing such as a textile to support the fish leather. I think it depends what type of exotic skin you are working with as some exotics can be thick enough. You can choose whether you want to show the flesh side of your exotic skin or line it for aesthetic reasons.
Do you sell it?
Sorry, I do not sell any products or materials.
I could be considered a member of a sub-culture some people call "vulture culture". I collect skulls, bones and skins. I've never made leather so to speak, only arriving at raw hides that can still rot if wet. I've practiced on roadkill cats, dogs, sheep and even snakes. Reticulated python is indeed very flimsy and fragile. I would have to glue it on top of some other leather. Surprisingly, cat is quite tough and might do well as a shoe upper, especially at the back/neck area.
I have not heard of that before, I only work with tanned skins.
money clip wallet please
Thanks for the suggestion!
How much is a sheet of cocodrilo
It really depends on the grade and width, can be 200-1000 USD for a skin.
Where's the human leather?
😂😂
So many lives lost just for the embellishments of a human. Shame.
It is natural. Since we are on the top of food chain, we eat meat from animals and we wear their skins as leather. Animal lives are not "lost" if they serve human needs well. I can’t see anything bad if an animal is not eaten by a predator but used for a beautiful watch strap, for example. Anyway, I don’t know why you comment a video about leathercraft if you disagree with using animals for leather.
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