just let everyone know that I had F D C-, sub 3.0 gap for my freshman year, didn't even make my sophomore year full time because i couldn't handle the coursework and "failed" the first time I took MCAT but right now I'm seating on many DO acceptances and MD waitlist also as of now, so don't give up if you have a bad grade or failed something we always have time plenty of time
I thought I was the dumbest person on earth cause I forgot to sign up for a google classroom for Arista in Middle School which I worked hard to get there but then I got kicked out since I didn’t join 😬
This is my exact story! But thank god I'm still finishing undergrad classes so I still have time to show an upward trend even if my GPA isn't the best. Thanks Dr. Gray for this helpful video! 😊
This student is very snobby, and frankly just does not fit the characteristics I would want in my own physician. Simply by her response to Dr. Gray's suggestion of DO shows that this student may be wanting to become a doctor for other reasons...
Tried to give her a chance, but fully agreed with you by the end. One of my least favorite episodes, since it seemed like she wasn’t taking Dr. Gray’s suggestions seriously.
I'm a non-trad with mostly online creds due to my full time job, and I'm hesitant to go DO, because they straight up cannot practice medicine in certain parts of the world, or have to climb hurdles in others. this is especially the case for locations in Asia. I lived and worked abroad in Japan as a software engineer, and would love to open an English speaking clinic there one day, but I wouldn't be able to do that as a DO. It has nothing to do with DOs being "lesser", I don't want to do anything crazy competitive, even if I did, there is a wonderful DO Dermatologist nearby I could talk with. But the limitations on DOs and the perceptions outside the US aren't amazing, so I understand her hesitation especially with nanjing, I don't think there is anything smug about it.
@@MedicalSchoolHQ No! Everyone should be required to take calculus if they're going to go to medical school. Why wouldn't we if we have to take physics? Calculus is the basis of a lot of physics.
@@yukijames1321 Everyone in the educated world should be required to take calculus. It should be a basic standard of education that is met by all academic institutions.
Very informative! I plan watch the entire series with my new found time away from in-person classes. Just want to note that Baylor College of Medicine is a Private Institution, not public.
Most schools, for Texas at least, does not view scribing as sufficient in lieu of shadowing or clinical hours. They explain its not shadowing because you’re not following the doctor around throughout the whole patient stay (re-eval, disposition) just the initial greet. It’s not clinical because you don’t take an active role in patient interaction. It’s difficult to get the clinical hours for me because the experiences (CNA, EMT, Med assisting) all require at least an year of training and $$$$
Dee Lee EMT courses are usually a semester or less. Search around because there are some courses that are less than a month. Where I am in Arizona there is a 12 day course. But I do agree that it costs a lot of money
Just trying to help here. I'm a rising M3. Here are my thoughts. Her Science GPA is not strong, and they are mainly level 200 classes or below (based on 23:55). If I were on the admissions committee, I would be concerned about that. I'm thinking maybe taking some more upper level Science classes (level 300/400) and doing well at those would help boost her GPA and demonstrate her ability to manage academic rigor. Also, her MCAT score is fine. But the schools she applied to require >509 I believe. 509 (79th percentile) would be lower than the average of matriculants at most medical schools. So if she is confident she could get >512, maybe wouldn't be the worst idea? One way or another, the stats part of her application needs to improve? I think you brought this up but didn't emphasize this. I'm sure you were trying to be delicate and kind. But her 48 hours as camp counselor was not sufficient in my opinion. Most applicants have hundreds of hours of volunteering. I know it's not just about checking the list, but it's so important to demonstrate passion and willingness to serve people. I would put some time into improving that as well.
Her prerequisites are community college courses. I think that is the main problem. It doesn't help that the post bacc science GPA is so low. That is where she should have really proven herself. Maybe redo the postbacc at a 4 yr college, along with some upper level science courses like another person suggested.
Hey Dr. Gray I got an F in ochem lab and F in calc II my sophomore year( it’s a long story). Retook both and earned A’s but I’m still concerned how much those mistakes will tank my application
Got a D in ochem 1 and retook it and got a B. F in ochem 2 and need to take it again. It really makes me feel dumb lol I hate it! All my other grades are decent, but it definitely worries me
Most medical schools aren't picking apart individual classes. The F hurts from a GPA calculation stand point. That's all. Obviously from a prereq perspective, yes, it matters because you'll need to retake it.
Is it bad to take any class Pass Fail? Even if it’s not a science class? For example I took a Spanish class Pass fail (P grade) my freshman year, will med schools care?
Failed 3 courses freshman year (sigh), took 3 years off, then went back and pulled a 4.0 soph/junior/senior years, every semester, in an incredibly demanding degree. I've got rockstar ECs, and plan on getting a 515+ mcat. Is there any hope for me?
I have done 20 or so hours of shadowing a pediatrician, would this be a pitfall for me because it comes across as not enough time? I have like 250 hours of clinical experience in addition to the shadowing, as well as many hours in a leadership role within the internship I got my clinical experience at. Let me know if you guys think this paints a bad picture for an app and if there is anything you believe I can do to prepare myself for the reality of medical school. Thank you!
just let everyone know that I had F D C-, sub 3.0 gap for my freshman year, didn't even make my sophomore year full time because i couldn't handle the coursework and "failed" the first time I took MCAT but right now I'm seating on many DO acceptances and MD waitlist also as of now, so don't give up if you have a bad grade or failed something we always have time plenty of time
As someone who already failed a dual enrollment course but hasn't gone to college yet, this is very helpful!
congrats that's amazing!!!
I thought I was the dumbest person on earth cause I forgot to sign up for a google classroom for Arista in Middle School which I worked hard to get there but then I got kicked out since I didn’t join 😬
@@JoeMama-oo1pi what
I read and prepared for my MMI interview using your book and just found out I was accepted into the BSMD program at UNR! Thank you!
congrats!!!! Thanks for letting me know.
@@MedicalSchoolHQ Is there any chance of getting into medical school and getting licensed with 2 DUIs from 10 years ago?
@@cmhardin37 I want to know this answer also! :)
What's the name of the book?
Is it bad to take fewer classes at a time/ each semester when doing prereques for medical school and for the MCAT?
For some reason I’m watching this as a graduating fourth year medical student and DAMN it brings back memories 😹
This is my exact story! But thank god I'm still finishing undergrad classes so I still have time to show an upward trend even if my GPA isn't the best. Thanks Dr. Gray for this helpful video! 😊
This student is very snobby, and frankly just does not fit the characteristics I would want in my own physician. Simply by her response to Dr. Gray's suggestion of DO shows that this student may be wanting to become a doctor for other reasons...
Tried to give her a chance, but fully agreed with you by the end. One of my least favorite episodes, since it seemed like she wasn’t taking Dr. Gray’s suggestions seriously.
I'm a non-trad with mostly online creds due to my full time job, and I'm hesitant to go DO, because they straight up cannot practice medicine in certain parts of the world, or have to climb hurdles in others. this is especially the case for locations in Asia. I lived and worked abroad in Japan as a software engineer, and would love to open an English speaking clinic there one day, but I wouldn't be able to do that as a DO.
It has nothing to do with DOs being "lesser", I don't want to do anything crazy competitive, even if I did, there is a wonderful DO Dermatologist nearby I could talk with. But the limitations on DOs and the perceptions outside the US aren't amazing, so I understand her hesitation especially with nanjing, I don't think there is anything smug about it.
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Agreed!
She seems to fit more of a researcher than a physician
The sad part is, the vast vast majority of schools don’t require calculus.
The sad part is, calculus exists...🤣
@@MedicalSchoolHQ Damn you, Newton!
@@MedicalSchoolHQ No! Everyone should be required to take calculus if they're going to go to medical school. Why wouldn't we if we have to take physics? Calculus is the basis of a lot of physics.
@@yukijames1321 Everyone in the educated world should be required to take calculus. It should be a basic standard of education that is met by all academic institutions.
Very informative! I plan watch the entire series with my new found time away from in-person classes. Just want to note that Baylor College of Medicine is a Private Institution, not public.
Most schools, for Texas at least, does not view scribing as sufficient in lieu of shadowing or clinical hours. They explain its not shadowing because you’re not following the doctor around throughout the whole patient stay (re-eval, disposition) just the initial greet. It’s not clinical because you don’t take an active role in patient interaction. It’s difficult to get the clinical hours for me because the experiences (CNA, EMT, Med assisting) all require at least an year of training and $$$$
Dee Lee EMT courses are usually a semester or less. Search around because there are some courses that are less than a month. Where I am in Arizona there is a 12 day course. But I do agree that it costs a lot of money
I wish all of them get into medical school 😭 and Please take their interview after that as well
I like her smile & her positive attitude.
lord...i love these episodes but the constant interrupting is infuriating lol
that's exactly what i was thinking lol
Just trying to help here. I'm a rising M3. Here are my thoughts.
Her Science GPA is not strong, and they are mainly level 200 classes or below (based on 23:55). If I were on the admissions committee, I would be concerned about that. I'm thinking maybe taking some more upper level Science classes (level 300/400) and doing well at those would help boost her GPA and demonstrate her ability to manage academic rigor.
Also, her MCAT score is fine. But the schools she applied to require >509 I believe. 509 (79th percentile) would be lower than the average of matriculants at most medical schools. So if she is confident she could get >512, maybe wouldn't be the worst idea? One way or another, the stats part of her application needs to improve?
I think you brought this up but didn't emphasize this. I'm sure you were trying to be delicate and kind. But her 48 hours as camp counselor was not sufficient in my opinion. Most applicants have hundreds of hours of volunteering. I know it's not just about checking the list, but it's so important to demonstrate passion and willingness to serve people. I would put some time into improving that as well.
And while 509 is decent, a 124 in B/B is not good, especially for some of the schools she applied to.
Excellent video. This gives me hope.
Her prerequisites are community college courses. I think that is the main problem. It doesn't help that the post bacc science GPA is so low. That is where she should have really proven herself. Maybe redo the postbacc at a 4 yr college, along with some upper level science courses like another person suggested.
She seems like a good person. It sucks how cutthroat this whole application thing is.
Hey Dr. Gray I got an F in ochem lab and F in calc II my sophomore year( it’s a long story). Retook both and earned A’s but I’m still concerned how much those mistakes will tank my application
Probably fine. Everyone falls! I think I might have a B- in my Ochem 1. Guess what, I've used ZERO Ochem and Calc so far in med sch.
Got a D in ochem 1 and retook it and got a B. F in ochem 2 and need to take it again. It really makes me feel dumb lol I hate it! All my other grades are decent, but it definitely worries me
Do medical school care if I get an F in a French class ? Or as long as it not a science class I’m good
Most medical schools aren't picking apart individual classes. The F hurts from a GPA calculation stand point. That's all. Obviously from a prereq perspective, yes, it matters because you'll need to retake it.
LOL at the providers comment. That being said, it's true.
130 for CARS? A genius
Is it bad to take any class Pass Fail? Even if it’s not a science class? For example I took a Spanish class Pass fail (P grade) my freshman year, will med schools care?
Dr. Grey, AMSA conference 2020 will be online this year. Just an FYI
thanks!
Failed 3 courses freshman year (sigh), took 3 years off, then went back and pulled a 4.0 soph/junior/senior years, every semester, in an incredibly demanding degree. I've got rockstar ECs, and plan on getting a 515+ mcat. Is there any hope for me?
Absolutely
im getting my prereqs, with a shitty old chem grade, MD, DO idgaf. I will be a physician.
How’d it go ? Are you in med school?
2 ears 1 mouth.
I have done 20 or so hours of shadowing a pediatrician, would this be a pitfall for me because it comes across as not enough time?
I have like 250 hours of clinical experience in addition to the shadowing, as well as many hours in a leadership role within the internship I got my clinical experience at.
Let me know if you guys think this paints a bad picture for an app and if there is anything you believe I can do to prepare myself for the reality of medical school.
Thank you!
Jack Daly I think it might help to shadow a different kind of doctor aswell
why is she always laughing throughout this?
Nerves?
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