This is not a disaster, it was an unfortunate glich! The horse is a highly trained very sensitive animal,spooked a bit at something x the rider delt with it!! This is a good recovery NOT a disaster. Gives people who have no knowledge of dressage or riding completely the wrong idea!
Thank you! You are so right about the title, I'm 64 years old, don't know much about horses other than my heart beats a love song every single time I am near or see a horse. I have been teaching my grandchildren the different breeds as well as the many sportsmanship. This was clearly a good recovery job and I hope they were not penalized much for it.
In a difficult situation, if a rider keeps their seat, whether or not the complete the required functions, it's NOT A DISASTER. This gal did well, kept her head, and was able to keep herself and her horse safe in the ring. Kudos. Another time, another place, and things will be better.
You can see the worry on her darling face at the halt and salute! She's like "oh no, here we go, what am I in for? Wish me luck"!! She handled it well, she is such a lovely young lady. Nothing to do with her, the horse was just spooked and scared of the environment. She did everything she could. Love her style and nature!
The rider was scared, nervous, tense, I mean, look at her face, and this was just upon entering the ring. The horse, who already did not want to be there, felt all of this.
I was like I just wanted to give her a hug non-equestrains don't get how heavy these horses are she's a slightly built female rider and she handled it beautifully....massive congratulations to her
In interviews she said there was a huge camera. He spoked in the short GP and they put it higher up on some piedestal for saturdays freestyle and it made it even worse. I think Fry handled it well and she was certainly one of the softer and more balanced riders in the World Cup Final. Horses are flight animals. Just one of thoose days...
Overall I really like your content but I wonder why do you post this kind of videos… “Dressage disaster “ it’s not a disaster, every horse has its bad days and by posting this you are only putting the rider in the spotlight but in a negative way
I think the disaster was the rider's performance. Most of the horses reactions were after she executed very visible aids, which we know horses don't like, and I mean, that would be completely ok if she was learning, but it kinda makes the sport look bad if those things happen at such a high level. But of course there were also times where it was just a spook, and that's just bad luck I guess 😅
No matter how the horse or rider performed, we all have our off days no matter what. I had my ups and downs in my riding career especially in dressage.
Agree! You also did from Dinja van Liere. Reactions about she use rollkur ect ect. It was just a bad period of Hermes. Dinja is very honest for her horses. And never used rollkur but people reacting with really stupid negative reactions…
This is a horse. This is the only sport involving another breathing live being. I’ve been riding since I was a child and I can tell you it was not always perfect. That’s how I learned and also it helped me form a good relationship with my horse. If anything, this video shows how excellent of a rider she is. She working with a 1200 pound animal. But if you watch the communication she has with him. She pets him. Why ?. Because she is telling him “ it’s ok , I’m here, you’re ok” he is scared.
It is incredible how only by bad test Lotte Fry is criticized. I think that the title can get to anchor it, it is clear that it has not been at all its best test. But I think she has more than proven that she is one of the best riders of today, maintaining the security of finishing the test without losing the papers with the horse. More than a disaster I would say that it has been the proof that something can go wrong for all of us but that if we propose it we can finish it to be able to improve for the next show.
My Oldenburg mare has acted out at times in this way, and I believe this selection shows the rest of us that the perfection we often see in the ring isn't as effortless as it looks. We are not alone. The rider is definitely not just a passenger on the back of a well-trained horse. This video selection shows the rider's talent and control, in spite of the bad day she seemed to already know the horse was having (her face as she enters looked like she perhaps expected trouble). I admire her skill and am not put off by this. In fact, I am encouraged. Sometimes talent and skill shows more in the more difficult moments than the close to perfect ones.
She abuses the horse and its crying for help... Stupid humans... That witch is disgusting and so is everyone else who cares for the sport over the animal.
Absolutely. I think it’s idiotic to post this, saying that this incredible horse is showing his “dark side”. He is not trying to be bad, this can happen to everyone! Horses are not robots. 😡
If we look at the training of most dressage horses, in Europe especially, they are ridden in a very tight short necked way. Even when the rider releases the rein many stay curled up. It is not correct or classical but based on a system of hold in front and push hard from behind. Correctly trained advanced horses shouldn't need a double bridle or spurs. This tightness may produce extravagant showy front leg action but the tension caused by the discomfort is evident in the mechanical movements. It should look relaxed and effortless, not jerky and false.
Thank to all of you positive commenters, I thought I had missed something. Yea, disaster is just click bait. I’m really glad it wasn’t a disaster. Great recovery on the riders part. Great seat.
Not every day is a good day. Most certainly that was not Dark Legend 's day... Horses are so sensitive that sometimes it's hard for them to understand what's being asked from them. It seems that was the case.😟
Talk about making a mountain out of a mole-hill!! Horses, just in case you're wondering, are REAL LIVE Animals with a mind of their own and get the jitters just like we do. His young rider stayed calm and well done too, to both of them 👏 What a Beautiful Horse 😍
To see a top horse like that spook at something makes the rest of us feel not feel as bad when our horses do it. I saw Valegro spook in a test and pull his shoe off at Hickstead one year.
looks like head carriage to tight and he not enjoying his work rgardless off how good she is the horse is in pain like a lot of equines these days riders and owners too busy focusing on the rewards and not the pain do dressage without spurs and double bridles then we see the real riders
They’re not robots and neither are their riders. It’s sad to see it happen, but it happens. These riders shouldn’t feel ashamed for it. I honestly would’ve loved to see her not rush away from it. They both could’ve been nerved up. They get the best of us sometimes.
Before criticizing riders at the Grand Prix level ! Perhaps one might realize horses have off days as well ! Who knows what happened that ride ! I am sure if you spoke directly to his rider you might have some insight into what when wrong ! Think about how disappointing it was for her ! I am sure the next ride will be much better ! I felt for both she and her lovely horse 🐴
Yes but this channel pointed out something in one video I watched that stuck with me. Even in the midst of this horse having an “off day”, the rider is still forced (via rules and norms) to push forward through the routine. The horse is obviously stressed and scared, but apparently finishing the routine is more and important, so the rider continues on on a horse who very clearly needs a moment to calm down. The person who runs this channel pointed out that it may not be the rider’s fault and recognizes that they’re not in a place to judge upper level riders. However, everyone is free to critique the rules, systems, and norms; in this case, the rules disqualify you for not pushing through when your horse is telling you something, and norms encourage people to “push through it” when a horse is freaking out in the arena. Basically, you’re punished via disqualification for putting your horse before the competition. People work hard to come to these competitions, so it makes sense that they’d feel they need to “power through it”, but it’s just not fair to the living, breathing animal with emotions that they are riding.
Man I don't blame this horse for acting out. Her spurs kept hitting the horse in the sides, which I know wasn't comfortable. If u take a set of spurs and hit ur sides constantly it does hurt and bruise. This horse was clearly unhappy from the very start it looked like in the beginning they spooked at something. The horse looked like it had a lot of pressure on the mouth from the bit and reins. This horse's body language and behavior showed clear signs of discomfort and stress. So many think a horse foaming at the mouth is a good sign when it isn't. Horses in acute stress display signs of forward-pointing ears, wide-open eyes, widened nostrils, a high head, a stiff stance, a raised tail, along with blowing through their nose, and defecating. Horses just coming out of stressful situations often lick and chew as a sort of involuntarily reaction. This occurs because switching from a sympathetic nervous system response(acute stress) to a parasympathetic nervous system response(rest and restore) causes the horse to go from a dry mouth to a wet one causing them to salivate, which causes licking and chewing. People put horses through stressful situation and then mistakenly interpret the horse's body language of licking and chewing as a sign of submission or special bonding, but that isn't the case it's a sign of a horse being released from a higher to lower level of acute alert, alarm, or stress. Personally I think it's the positions the riders put the horses in for extended periods of time like forcing their heads down for instance, which, causes airflow restrictions as well as development issues. Many dressage horses r ridden wrong like being ridden behind the vertical plane aka riding "behind the bit". Many people don't understand a horse's body language and behavior. I think many people just don't realize their horses r unhappy and uncomfortable not because they don't care about their horses, but because they don't know any better. Many people r taught different training techniques, riding techniques, grooming techniques, feeding techniques, learning techniques, ground work techniques, etc from different cultures, traditions, and experiences. I think people just need help being educated on what makes the horse happier and what makes them live longer healthier lives. A lot of horses live good lives, but they r constantly put in uncomfortable situations that make them unhappy. Personally I don't like dressage because it just looks uncomfortable and unnatural to me, but I do know there r riders out there that put the horse first, and we need more of those people.
"Foam of stress can show up as Lipstick, a Mouthful, or a full-on Whipped Cream Machine. Foam of stress often stays. A tense horse who doesn't lick and chew, or whose noseband is too tight to allow that may have lingering foam. Another reason foam may be persistently present in larger amounts is if the horse is not swallowing. This could be due to stress, learned helplessness, and/or lack of ability to move their mouth and tongue due to an excessively tight noseband. There are some that are so convinced that all foam is good, that they will go to extreme measures to create foam. I have known people to put liquid soap in their horse's mouths prior to entering the dressage competition arena. Dressage Naturally blog
I've come to believe, that horses in constant stress due to the riding (the too hard hands, kicking spurs, tight backs and pain caused by deepend/ pulled-in necks and too tight nosebands) often pick up an "outer excuse" as of a flowerpot, cameraman or anything else just for their "flight Reaction" away from the arena! That's bc the cause of the pain (the rider) is getting most unbearable right there in that scene. The constant control of the rider is so tense and leaves no physical NOR mental freedom either, feeling like a "non separational" problem of the horse it self, that their only way out is to act with "surpricing, even imaginary frights"! That's their only way to have, at least, a momentary freedom. For many, the harsh reaction to this of the rider can trigger a real fight from the part of the horse. In this case the rider didn't put more pressure, nor forced, but cleverly rode him to the other end of the arena in extended trot (felt more free) as kind of "compromise" to the horse. Needless to say that the real reasons for "spooking" of such experienced horses could easily be avoided with softer riding and more understanding of their nature, maybe less compeating? Let horses just be horses too every now and then!! And Yes, they really are not machines, so Why to treat them as such in the first place!?
Fry handled the buck and rear up like a champion she stayed calm and quiet with her body and hands and didnt get angry wirh her horse what a superb rider
Huge amount of respect for Lottie. She handled that very well. For the people saying that she’s abusing her horses, no. Her horse is having a bad day and she did everything correctly. 👏👏👏👏
Das Pferd tut mir einfach nur leid, total gestresst und die Reiterin lässt auch zu wünschen übrig...... wieder ein Grund mehr warum ich dem Dressursport den Rücken zu gekehrt habe.
i will probably be rubbished for this but it seems all the trainers are teaching this horrible tense dressage to the riders, the horses look stressed and uncomfortable, heads very high and chin tucked in really tight often they have a very frothy mouth which is open and appearing to feel discomfort, the neck muscles look tight i wonder if they can breathe properly with so much constriction? why are judges not marking accordingly? It wont stop until they do. i would like to see the horses in a lower more open frame. am i the only one to see this?
well it can happen. Sure it is not the best for charlotte fry but she handeled it very well and tried to do the best out of the ruined performance. she kept calm and i think this is not a desaster, it is the proof how a calm and good rider is handeling these situations. I am sry if my english is bad and you dont know what I mean but i Am a only 14 years old girl from germany so I hope yo can just understand what i wrote :)
That ominous music made it sound like the poor horse was about to sprout wings, crash into the roof of the building and burst into flame. If a small spook is really a "disaster," it's a wonder we're not all dead at this point.
Struggling to see. If I hadn't been looking for an error I probably wouldn't have noticed anything. A "disaster" to me would have been rearing up, ditching the rider, bolting, falling over etc. Not a minor spook.
A horse becomes spooky, because it doesn't trust the rider. Also what people tend to overlook, is how a horse vision works, especially when they have their head like that. A horse can't focus like we do, they need to move their head up and down, from side to side, to focus on an object/threat. Unless you have a strong bond with your horse, where it trust you to be their protector, this is a result.
That's not true at all. Horses spook because they are prey animals. It's instinct. Even the next trained horses will have spooking moments. It's perfectly fine, normal and doesn't mean anything against the owner/rider
@@pokiedext4223 There's a difference between a spook, where the horse takes a little sidestep, and how most horses in human care spook. It's the same as us, there's a difference between how much different people spook, and that reaction can be trained or triggered. Many horses in human care, are triggered to spook in an unnatural way. Horses in the wild, would die if they reacted like most horses in human care, why? because running blindly like spooky horses do, is fatal. In the wild, they will most likely have detected a threat long before they can spook from it, also if something spooks them, they will in a controlled manner, put enough distance between themselves and what they reacted to, so they can check it out without being in harms way. And by that, learn if it is a threat or not. So they won't spend their precious energy on something they don't have to be spooked by. Horses in human care goes nevrotic, because they don't have a herd to rely on, and they don't trust the rider/owner to look out for them. If you are interested, you should check out Warrick Schiller, and learn why horses usually don't trust people to look out for them, and how teach a horse to let go of anxiety and to be less spooky. He has 2 videos where he works with classic riders, both in dressage and jumping. And we don't even register how we move, if we take a sidestep, or what might happen in our surroundings, because we are on our phone, or in our head, which is why a horse does not feel safe in the riders presence.
@@Galemor1 that...isn't how that works lol. "a little sidestep"? Have you only seen horses in movies? Have you actually worked with horses of all backgrounds and not just lesson horses or trial ponies? Because you have a very fake understanding of horses. Your understanding of horses is not a reality. They are very flighty animals. They are so flighty that horses in a pasture can seriously hurt themselves just by spooking because of a tree branch on the ground. There are horses that will spook themselves off a cliff because of their own shadow.
@@pokiedext4223 ooooh little one, you sound like a typical barn Karen.. Like you don't have any information, horses brought up by humans like yourself, act like you say, because their humans doesn't know how to teach horses, so instead they lock them up, and only ride inside a building, so when a horse is out in the pasture and something natural happens (like a branch falling down) they have no clue how to regulate themselves and therefore run blindly in fear... Like I said, horses in the wild can not afford to go ballistic like that, because getting hurt, means they're an easy target, that's why horses don't tend to do jumping in the wild, like we train them to do (or in many cases abuse them into doing) So you just made my point so much clearer, and you think I don't have any experience with nevrotic horses! Girl, that's the ones I tend to be put on, because I have a clue, and enough experience to calm them down.. I have been choosing the difficult horses since I was little, riding at the barn that Per Waaler and his wife run.. I have over 15 years of experience, and I am still learning, because that's what makes you understand more, that's how you are able to work with horses, so they don't spook like you speak off.. I got a Arabian mare that I didn't dare to ride without equipment, but after working with her, my 9 year old niece and her friend rode her alone, bareback in the halter, on the trail.. But yeah, you are so sweet to point out how little you actually know about horse mentality.. How about their skeleton, or their vision? Tell me, do you ride because it makes you happy, or do you want the horse to be happy having you on their back? Because that's what I want, that the horse chooses to be with me, even when it's is loose, on the trail, in front of you, close to lunchtime, being able to hear her pasture buddy, and still stopping, turning and waiting for you to catch up, so you can walk together. Do you know how that feels?
@@Galemor1 lol, you have a lot of nerve calling someone a barn Karen. You are literally the definition of it. You are judgemental and think that you know everything about horses but honestly you are furthest from the truth and I feel so bad for the horses in your care. If you think spooking is a sign of abuse I wonder if any of your horses are able to exhibit any natural traits. Wild horses do spook, they spook all the time. Another showcase that you've never actually delt with more flighty animals. How about you shut up, stop spreading misinformation and rethink what you just said. If you don't understand that spooking is a natural horse trait and does not have anything to do with abuse than I don't know what to tell you. My goodness, the ignorance and self righteousness is showing all the way. "I've been choosing to ride the most difficult horses since I was little"LMAO, any trainer who did that to you I apologize on their behalf. No barn will be putting a green rider, or a child rider on difficult horses. This sounds like a plot from a horse girl movie "only I can train the hard to take horses and they trust me so much that they never spook" Also that last paragraph....😭 Yeah you watch way too many movies man. Please stop I can't. I'm laughing too hard at this.
Just an observation that Charlotte looked tense at the salute so the horse may have been spooky beforehand. And all riders can relate to that situation😮
I am thrilled that people see it for what it is; a horse having a bad moment. She did a great job of trying to recover but once you and your horse loose your rhythm it is really hard to get it back.
It shows these horses are real animals not automatons. Seeing perfect performances one after the other we forget the reality of dealing with a living breathing thinking being. Well done Lottie. Superb recovery.
To say a horse has a dark side is just ignorant... Horses react, they are prey/flight animals... it's not normal for a horse to do what we humans want it to do. They (mostly) give in, because what choice do they have otherwise?
Why do you have to be so dramatic and say his dark side. There is clearly something going on with this gorgeous horse which requires understanding and empathy rather than drama!!!🤬🇦🇺
Both are incredible riders, but Charlotte Fry really gained my respect when her horse Dark Legend spooked multiple times during a competition. She didn’t get mad at him for acting up, she handled beautifully. And that’s how a true professional rider is. So Charlotte Fry all the way ❤
To me when I look at this I am not happy. The dressage aspect is a circus performance. The true hallmarks of Dressage rhythm contact relaxation push straightness and collection are not real anymore. The "extended" trot was not extended at all and rushed so the rhythm was gone (he doubled his tempo, count it). He was NOT relaxed he balked and shied. Now that Cesar Parra is being outed and Evie Strasser I wonder how many other people are doing something similar. I know that a lot of people are drilling their horses piaff piaff piaff piaff and passage passage passage and when the horses get in the ring they're like oh no not again!!! This isn't pretty anymore. Anything forced is not beautiful.
Good recovery, far from your shameful click bait headline, I expect better from this account. The dressage fans & horse enthusiasts, your faithful audience, would have clicked on the term Recovery.
I wouldn't call it a disaster, when you stated dressage disaster I was thinking the worse like fall or the horse really played up I didn't see a disaster at all.
People must be forgetting these are fight or flight animals, be lucky hes choosing flight. He probably Hasn’t been out that much by the looks of his reactions he’s just nervous. This is not a disaster, this just shows he has holes in his training…most likely ground work.
That trot canter transition looked like it was full of ouchies for that horse. Excessive head bobing the looks weird... his face is super tense, the tail flicking. Hope hes fine
If this is considered a disaster my riding can be classified as a whole catastrophe
Me too!!!
I'm with you lol
I hear ya…
Right?!? 😮
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This is not a disaster, it was an unfortunate glich! The horse is a highly trained very sensitive animal,spooked a bit at something x the rider delt with it!!
This is a good recovery NOT a disaster. Gives people who have no knowledge of dressage or riding completely the wrong idea!
Amen!
Beautiful horse and rider. great recovery by both.
Clickbait title
Thank you! You are so right about the title, I'm 64 years old, don't know much about horses other than my heart beats a love song every single time I am near or see a horse. I have been teaching my grandchildren the different breeds as well as the many sportsmanship. This was clearly a good recovery job and I hope they were not penalized much for it.
Shameful animal abuse .. Disaster
I know what is done day after day to make those poor horses prance a not natural gait.. Very sad ...
In a difficult situation, if a rider keeps their seat, whether or not the complete the required functions, it's NOT A DISASTER. This gal did well, kept her head, and was able to keep herself and her horse safe in the ring. Kudos. Another time, another place, and things will be better.
Agree!!
I agree... Everybody has had these days where their horses just like "nope I don't like that, I'm not having it today..."
Bullshit!!!
The horse spooked several times at objects/people outside the dressage arena, and Fry handled it beautifully. Kudos to her!
Agreed.
She is an amazing rider!
Thanks for explaining. Looks like nothing happened
You can see the worry on her darling face at the halt and salute! She's like "oh no, here we go, what am I in for? Wish me luck"!! She handled it well, she is such a lovely young lady. Nothing to do with her, the horse was just spooked and scared of the environment. She did everything she could. Love her style and nature!
Apparently there was a huge camera the horse spooked it. It was well sat though.
The rider was scared, nervous, tense, I mean, look at her face, and this was just upon entering the ring. The horse, who already did not want to be there, felt all of this.
Saw her take a big deep breathe
I was like I just wanted to give her a hug non-equestrains don't get how heavy these horses are she's a slightly built female rider and she handled it beautifully....massive congratulations to her
"darling"? Give me a break
The horse is not a mashine.
It is a living creature and it can get scared or uncomfortable.
In interviews she said there was a huge camera. He spoked in the short GP and they put it higher up on some piedestal for saturdays freestyle and it made it even worse. I think Fry handled it well and she was certainly one of the softer and more balanced riders in the World Cup Final. Horses are flight animals. Just one of thoose days...
Right, anyone who knows horses knows any horse can spook. He just spooked. I never saw a 'dark side' in the least. This was click bait.
100% agreed 👍🏼 ❤
Overall I really like your content but I wonder why do you post this kind of videos… “Dressage disaster “ it’s not a disaster, every horse has its bad days and by posting this you are only putting the rider in the spotlight but in a negative way
I think the disaster was the rider's performance. Most of the horses reactions were after she executed very visible aids, which we know horses don't like, and I mean, that would be completely ok if she was learning, but it kinda makes the sport look bad if those things happen at such a high level.
But of course there were also times where it was just a spook, and that's just bad luck I guess 😅
No matter how the horse or rider performed, we all have our off days no matter what. I had my ups and downs in my riding career especially in dressage.
Agree! You also did from Dinja van Liere. Reactions about she use rollkur ect ect. It was just a bad period of Hermes. Dinja is very honest for her horses. And never used rollkur but people reacting with really stupid negative reactions…
Titles of videos are always there to attract viewers, click bait. 😔
This is a horse. This is the only sport involving another breathing live being. I’ve been riding since I was a child and I can tell you it was not always perfect. That’s how I learned and also it helped me form a good relationship with my horse. If anything, this video shows how excellent of a rider she is. She working with a 1200 pound animal. But if you watch the communication she has with him. She pets him. Why ?. Because she is telling him “ it’s ok , I’m here, you’re ok” he is scared.
It is incredible how only by bad test Lotte Fry is criticized. I think that the title can get to anchor it, it is clear that it has not been at all its best test. But I think she has more than proven that she is one of the best riders of today, maintaining the security of finishing the test without losing the papers with the horse. More than a disaster I would say that it has been the proof that something can go wrong for all of us but that if we propose it we can finish it to be able to improve for the next show.
If you read the description, they were very complimentary of her. The “disaster” was only the horse acting up, not her riding.
My Oldenburg mare has acted out at times in this way, and I believe this selection shows the rest of us that the perfection we often see in the ring isn't as effortless as it looks. We are not alone. The rider is definitely not just a passenger on the back of a well-trained horse. This video selection shows the rider's talent and control, in spite of the bad day she seemed to already know the horse was having (her face as she enters looked like she perhaps expected trouble). I admire her skill and am not put off by this. In fact, I am encouraged. Sometimes talent and skill shows more in the more difficult moments than the close to perfect ones.
@@skinsciencebymira it wasn't even a disaster i don't get why they need to make them look bad
She abuses the horse and its crying for help... Stupid humans... That witch is disgusting and so is everyone else who cares for the sport over the animal.
I’m impressed with the recovery on the rider’s part when the horse became upset. She definitely knows her stuff.
it happends sometimes, horses are not robots, they can be scared of something (here a camera) and i think she handled the whole situation pretty well
Yes, she did, I have great admiration for and her Magnificent horse.
Absolutely. I think it’s idiotic to post this, saying that this incredible horse is showing his “dark side”. He is not trying to be bad, this can happen to everyone! Horses are not robots. 😡
If we look at the training of most dressage horses, in Europe especially, they are ridden in a very tight short necked way.
Even when the rider releases the rein many stay curled up.
It is not correct or classical but based on a system of hold in front and push hard from behind.
Correctly trained advanced horses shouldn't need a double bridle or spurs.
This tightness may produce extravagant showy front leg action but the tension caused by the discomfort is evident in the mechanical movements.
It should look relaxed and effortless, not jerky and false.
What a gorgeous animal. The power and agility is awe inspiring. I don't care if it didn't perform perfectly, this was still amazing to watch.
Thank to all of you positive commenters, I thought I had missed something.
Yea, disaster is just click bait. I’m really glad it wasn’t a disaster. Great recovery on the riders part. Great seat.
Not every day is a good day. Most certainly that was not Dark Legend 's day... Horses are so sensitive that sometimes it's hard for them to understand what's being asked from them. It seems that was the case.😟
Talk about making a mountain out of a mole-hill!! Horses, just in case you're wondering, are REAL LIVE Animals with a mind of their own and get the jitters just like we do. His young rider stayed calm and well done too, to both of them 👏
What a Beautiful Horse 😍
No enjoyment watching this when I see spurs constantly kicking the horse in the sides. Not smooth at all.
To see a top horse like that spook at something makes the rest of us feel not feel as bad when our horses do it.
I saw Valegro spook in a test and pull his shoe off at Hickstead one year.
All horses get nervous after all they are herd animals, she handled him very well , and he kept trying for her ❤️
I saw no disaster. Beautiful horse. All handled perfectly.
Again with the foaming, these horses cannot swallow with their neck in this position. Imagine being asked to perform like that!
looks like head carriage to tight and he not enjoying his work rgardless off how good she is the horse is in pain like a lot of equines these days riders and owners too busy focusing on the rewards and not the pain do dressage without spurs and double bridles then we see the real riders
Sitting that spook was amazing, my admiration to you.
I hate how the title demonises the horse for showing natural behaviour
This rider was captured with her horse having a blue tongue. I am demonizing riders.
As the owner of a big, sensitive chestnut mare with the courage of a mouse, my heart goes out to this rider.
They’re not robots and neither are their riders. It’s sad to see it happen, but it happens. These riders shouldn’t feel ashamed for it. I honestly would’ve loved to see her not rush away from it. They both could’ve been nerved up. They get the best of us sometimes.
I would give anything to have just one “disaster ride” like that in my lifetime! Well done by both horse and rider!
That poor horse looks so uncomfortable & extremely annoyed...I just don't see the point of making any horse endure this crap 🙁🇦🇺
The horse is fine, spooking moments are natural.
Before criticizing riders at the Grand Prix level ! Perhaps one might realize horses have off days as well ! Who knows what happened that ride ! I am sure if you spoke directly to his rider you might have some insight into what when wrong ! Think about how disappointing it was for her ! I am sure the next ride will be much better ! I felt for both she and her lovely horse 🐴
Yes but this channel pointed out something in one video I watched that stuck with me. Even in the midst of this horse having an “off day”, the rider is still forced (via rules and norms) to push forward through the routine. The horse is obviously stressed and scared, but apparently finishing the routine is more and important, so the rider continues on on a horse who very clearly needs a moment to calm down. The person who runs this channel pointed out that it may not be the rider’s fault and recognizes that they’re not in a place to judge upper level riders. However, everyone is free to critique the rules, systems, and norms; in this case, the rules disqualify you for not pushing through when your horse is telling you something, and norms encourage people to “push through it” when a horse is freaking out in the arena. Basically, you’re punished via disqualification for putting your horse before the competition. People work hard to come to these competitions, so it makes sense that they’d feel they need to “power through it”, but it’s just not fair to the living, breathing animal with emotions that they are riding.
Thank you 0Caroline Oja
In other news: horses spook. Lottie Fry is an amazing rider, the horses love her, she has huge talent.
And the horse spooked. Shit happens.
Man I don't blame this horse for acting out. Her spurs kept hitting the horse in the sides, which I know wasn't comfortable. If u take a set of spurs and hit ur sides constantly it does hurt and bruise. This horse was clearly unhappy from the very start it looked like in the beginning they spooked at something. The horse looked like it had a lot of pressure on the mouth from the bit and reins. This horse's body language and behavior showed clear signs of discomfort and stress. So many think a horse foaming at the mouth is a good sign when it isn't. Horses in acute stress display signs of forward-pointing ears, wide-open eyes, widened nostrils, a high head, a stiff stance, a raised tail, along with blowing through their nose, and defecating. Horses just coming out of stressful situations often lick and chew as a sort of involuntarily reaction. This occurs because switching from a sympathetic nervous system response(acute stress) to a parasympathetic nervous system response(rest and restore) causes the horse to go from a dry mouth to a wet one causing them to salivate, which causes licking and chewing. People put horses through stressful situation and then mistakenly interpret the horse's body language of licking and chewing as a sign of submission or special bonding, but that isn't the case it's a sign of a horse being released from a higher to lower level of acute alert, alarm, or stress. Personally I think it's the positions the riders put the horses in for extended periods of time like forcing their heads down for instance, which, causes airflow restrictions as well as development issues. Many dressage horses r ridden wrong like being ridden behind the vertical plane aka riding "behind the bit". Many people don't understand a horse's body language and behavior. I think many people just don't realize their horses r unhappy and uncomfortable not because they don't care about their horses, but because they don't know any better. Many people r taught different training techniques, riding techniques, grooming techniques, feeding techniques, learning techniques, ground work techniques, etc from different cultures, traditions, and experiences. I think people just need help being educated on what makes the horse happier and what makes them live longer healthier lives. A lot of horses live good lives, but they r constantly put in uncomfortable situations that make them unhappy. Personally I don't like dressage because it just looks uncomfortable and unnatural to me, but I do know there r riders out there that put the horse first, and we need more of those people.
"Foam of stress can show up as Lipstick, a Mouthful, or a full-on Whipped Cream Machine. Foam of stress often stays. A tense horse who doesn't lick and chew, or whose noseband is too tight to allow that may have lingering foam.
Another reason foam may be persistently present in larger amounts is if the horse is not swallowing. This could be due to stress, learned helplessness, and/or lack of ability to move their mouth and tongue due to an excessively tight noseband.
There are some that are so convinced that all foam is good, that they will go to extreme measures to create foam. I have known people to put liquid soap in their horse's mouths prior to entering the dressage competition arena.
Dressage Naturally blog
I've come to believe, that horses in constant stress due to the riding (the too hard hands, kicking spurs, tight backs and pain caused by deepend/ pulled-in necks and too tight nosebands) often pick up an "outer excuse" as of a flowerpot, cameraman or anything else just for their "flight Reaction" away from the arena!
That's bc the cause of the pain (the rider) is getting most unbearable right there in that scene. The constant control of the rider is so tense and leaves no physical NOR mental freedom either, feeling like a "non separational" problem of the horse it self, that their only way out is to act with "surpricing, even imaginary frights"!
That's their only way to have, at least, a momentary freedom. For many, the harsh reaction to this of the rider can trigger a real fight from the part of the horse. In this case the rider didn't put more pressure, nor forced, but cleverly rode him to the other end of the arena in extended trot (felt more free) as kind of "compromise" to the horse.
Needless to say that the real reasons for "spooking" of such experienced horses could easily be avoided with softer riding and more understanding of their nature, maybe less compeating? Let horses just be horses too every now and then!! And Yes, they really are not machines, so Why to treat them as such in the first place!?
Lottie is a gentle handed rider, her spurs are dull. You need to educate yourself on this gifted rider before making such stupid remarks
Fry handled the buck and rear up like a champion she stayed calm and quiet with her body and hands and didnt get angry wirh her horse what a superb rider
Only disaster is that poor horse having to hold its head and neck like that. Just ridiculous.
I have been watching too much of these I got an ad for horse food 😅 I don’t even have a horse
Huge amount of respect for Lottie. She handled that very well. For the people saying that she’s abusing her horses, no. Her horse is having a bad day and she did everything correctly. 👏👏👏👏
Wow! This is an incredibly beautiful horse and a very competent rider!
Das Pferd tut mir einfach nur leid, total gestresst und die Reiterin lässt auch zu wünschen übrig...... wieder ein Grund mehr warum ich dem Dressursport den Rücken zu gekehrt habe.
i will probably be rubbished for this but it seems all the trainers are teaching this horrible tense dressage to the riders, the horses look stressed and uncomfortable, heads very high and chin tucked in really tight often they have a very frothy mouth which is open and appearing to feel discomfort, the neck muscles look tight i wonder if they can breathe properly with so much constriction? why are judges not marking accordingly? It wont stop until they do. i would like to see the horses in a lower more open frame. am i the only one to see this?
No, more and more people are opening their eyes to the abuse.
well it can happen. Sure it is not the best for charlotte fry but she handeled it very well and tried to do the best out of the ruined performance. she kept calm and i think this is not a desaster, it is the proof how a calm and good rider is handeling these situations. I am sry if my english is bad and you dont know what I mean but i Am a only 14 years old girl from germany so I hope yo can just understand what i wrote :)
That ominous music made it sound like the poor horse was about to sprout wings, crash into the roof of the building and burst into flame. If a small spook is really a "disaster," it's a wonder we're not all dead at this point.
I like that horse...He has a mind of his own !
She did amazing considering . Most would have given up. Kudos to her to get him back on track and focused.
She abuses her horse with hyperflexon aka rollkur 😢
Is it just me or did the rider look nervous? She still gave him pats though even if they weren't having the best day.
Well.. It’s the World Cup. I’m sure that everyone who competed was nervous to one degree or another.
Just you
@@lewisnewton7628 no, not just her. The anxiety affects the horse.
Pats for PR.
Struggling to see.
If I hadn't been looking for an error I probably wouldn't have noticed anything.
A "disaster" to me would have been rearing up, ditching the rider, bolting, falling over etc. Not a minor spook.
He bogeyed a bit but she rode him through it with grace
That Horse is Unbelievable
He will be a Legend
He spooked, not his dark side... just instincts kicking in.
A horse becomes spooky, because it doesn't trust the rider.
Also what people tend to overlook, is how a horse vision works, especially when they have their head like that.
A horse can't focus like we do, they need to move their head up and down, from side to side, to focus on an object/threat.
Unless you have a strong bond with your horse, where it trust you to be their protector, this is a result.
That's not true at all. Horses spook because they are prey animals. It's instinct. Even the next trained horses will have spooking moments. It's perfectly fine, normal and doesn't mean anything against the owner/rider
@@pokiedext4223 There's a difference between a spook, where the horse takes a little sidestep, and how most horses in human care spook.
It's the same as us, there's a difference between how much different people spook, and that reaction can be trained or triggered.
Many horses in human care, are triggered to spook in an unnatural way.
Horses in the wild, would die if they reacted like most horses in human care, why? because running blindly like spooky horses do, is fatal.
In the wild, they will most likely have detected a threat long before they can spook from it, also if something spooks them, they will in a controlled manner, put enough distance between themselves and what they reacted to, so they can check it out without being in harms way. And by that, learn if it is a threat or not. So they won't spend their precious energy on something they don't have to be spooked by.
Horses in human care goes nevrotic, because they don't have a herd to rely on, and they don't trust the rider/owner to look out for them.
If you are interested, you should check out Warrick Schiller, and learn why horses usually don't trust people to look out for them, and how teach a horse to let go of anxiety and to be less spooky.
He has 2 videos where he works with classic riders, both in dressage and jumping.
And we don't even register how we move, if we take a sidestep, or what might happen in our surroundings, because we are on our phone, or in our head, which is why a horse does not feel safe in the riders presence.
@@Galemor1 that...isn't how that works lol. "a little sidestep"? Have you only seen horses in movies? Have you actually worked with horses of all backgrounds and not just lesson horses or trial ponies? Because you have a very fake understanding of horses. Your understanding of horses is not a reality. They are very flighty animals. They are so flighty that horses in a pasture can seriously hurt themselves just by spooking because of a tree branch on the ground. There are horses that will spook themselves off a cliff because of their own shadow.
@@pokiedext4223 ooooh little one, you sound like a typical barn Karen.. Like you don't have any information, horses brought up by humans like yourself, act like you say, because their humans doesn't know how to teach horses, so instead they lock them up, and only ride inside a building, so when a horse is out in the pasture and something natural happens (like a branch falling down) they have no clue how to regulate themselves and therefore run blindly in fear...
Like I said, horses in the wild can not afford to go ballistic like that, because getting hurt, means they're an easy target, that's why horses don't tend to do jumping in the wild, like we train them to do (or in many cases abuse them into doing)
So you just made my point so much clearer, and you think I don't have any experience with nevrotic horses!
Girl, that's the ones I tend to be put on, because I have a clue, and enough experience to calm them down..
I have been choosing the difficult horses since I was little, riding at the barn that Per Waaler and his wife run..
I have over 15 years of experience, and I am still learning, because that's what makes you understand more, that's how you are able to work with horses, so they don't spook like you speak off..
I got a Arabian mare that I didn't dare to ride without equipment, but after working with her, my 9 year old niece and her friend rode her alone, bareback in the halter, on the trail..
But yeah, you are so sweet to point out how little you actually know about horse mentality..
How about their skeleton, or their vision?
Tell me, do you ride because it makes you happy, or do you want the horse to be happy having you on their back?
Because that's what I want, that the horse chooses to be with me, even when it's is loose, on the trail, in front of you, close to lunchtime, being able to hear her pasture buddy, and still stopping, turning and waiting for you to catch up, so you can walk together.
Do you know how that feels?
@@Galemor1 lol, you have a lot of nerve calling someone a barn Karen. You are literally the definition of it. You are judgemental and think that you know everything about horses but honestly you are furthest from the truth and I feel so bad for the horses in your care. If you think spooking is a sign of abuse I wonder if any of your horses are able to exhibit any natural traits. Wild horses do spook, they spook all the time. Another showcase that you've never actually delt with more flighty animals.
How about you shut up, stop spreading misinformation and rethink what you just said. If you don't understand that spooking is a natural horse trait and does not have anything to do with abuse than I don't know what to tell you. My goodness, the ignorance and self righteousness is showing all the way.
"I've been choosing to ride the most difficult horses since I was little"LMAO, any trainer who did that to you I apologize on their behalf. No barn will be putting a green rider, or a child rider on difficult horses. This sounds like a plot from a horse girl movie "only I can train the hard to take horses and they trust me so much that they never spook"
Also that last paragraph....😭 Yeah you watch way too many movies man. Please stop I can't. I'm laughing too hard at this.
Just an observation that Charlotte looked tense at the salute so the horse may have been spooky beforehand. And all riders can relate to that situation😮
I thought I was going to see a dark side of Dark Legend. Click bait.
I am thrilled that people see it for what it is; a horse having a bad moment.
She did a great job of trying to recover but once you and your horse loose your rhythm it is really hard to get it back.
Wow that was heart stopping. ❤️ from a former dressage rider.
Horse's spook what's new.
Next year is yours.
This isn’t the horses dark side, it’s the horse becoming spooked at cameras.
Ich kann nur noch heulen bei diesen Videos... Wenn Pferde schreien könnten, wäre die Welt nie mehr still...
It’s not a disaster she stays calm and she doesn’t get angry on the horse
Your tagline is misinformation. She handled the horse admirably. The horse was in good hands.
It shows these horses are real animals not automatons. Seeing perfect performances one after the other we forget the reality of dealing with a living breathing thinking being.
Well done Lottie. Superb recovery.
I have to say that "disaster" seems like a fairly uncharitable description. Gorgeous horse, skilled rider.
To say a horse has a dark side is just ignorant... Horses react, they are prey/flight animals... it's not normal for a horse to do what we humans want it to do. They (mostly) give in, because what choice do they have otherwise?
Why do you have to be so dramatic and say his dark side. There is clearly something going on with this gorgeous horse which requires understanding and empathy rather than drama!!!🤬🇦🇺
Her hands is a disaster poor horse
That doesn’t act bad. It acts terrified.
Exactly
Exactly
The horse had some tiny problem but it wasn’t a disaster , she dealt with it and he did well!
Both are incredible riders, but Charlotte Fry really gained my respect when her horse Dark Legend spooked multiple times during a competition. She didn’t get mad at him for acting up, she handled beautifully. And that’s how a true professional rider is. So Charlotte Fry all the way ❤
Like she's gonna get mad in the arena 😂
@@sarahwagland1559 ……Ever seen Annika Schlew?
Great to watch so we can see how to handle it when things dont go as planned. Always learning. Cheers
It’s not his dark side. He’s a hot horse and clearly something is spooking him
How on earth can they say it was a disaster? Clickbait!
To me when I look at this I am not happy. The dressage aspect is a circus performance. The true hallmarks of Dressage rhythm contact relaxation push straightness and collection are not real anymore. The "extended" trot was not extended at all and rushed so the rhythm was gone (he doubled his tempo, count it). He was NOT relaxed he balked and shied. Now that Cesar Parra is being outed and Evie Strasser I wonder how many other people are doing something similar. I know that a lot of people are drilling their horses piaff piaff piaff piaff and passage passage passage and when the horses get in the ring they're like oh no not again!!! This isn't pretty anymore. Anything forced is not beautiful.
Good recovery, far from your shameful click bait headline, I expect better from this account. The dressage fans & horse enthusiasts, your faithful audience, would have clicked on the term Recovery.
My event horse: *big spook, bucking*
This horse: *spooks in dressage*
Good recovery. She kept her cool. Just like they tell us in dog training they can feel it travel down the lead/leash so she did good.
i like how even his disobedience was graceful beautiful dressage moves :) hes got spirit
What an absolutely beautiful creature wow and rider did awesome
You can tell the horse is very nervous From the beginning he was very tense not relaxed and was shaking the whole time
Hardly a disaster! I few silly spooks with brilliant recovery! 👏
That is not a disaster....
That was just a ups, spooky, ups.... Thats normal horse like behaviour 😀
I think Charlotte handled this well. She’s an amazing equestrian.
Not that amazing, otherwise the horse would have been more comfortable.
IMO this is a well schooled horse. In my experience with timed event horses, this is in my opinion is a horse that is experiencing discomfort.
All these competitions should be stopped...
but money talks
Looked pretty good. She’s working him through it.
😂
The horse is gorgeous and the only disaster was the name of this video
Well ridden. Nice salvage. Probably will concentrate more on working him around elevated flowers before his next show.
I wouldn't call it a disaster, when you stated dressage disaster I was thinking the worse like fall or the horse really played up I didn't see a disaster at all.
Every horse has their bad days. She handled it beautifully.
it's about the insane headset of dressage, I understand why they explode once in awhile.
When one of these horses bunches up underneath you your brain offers you a moment of terror.
People must be forgetting these are fight or flight animals, be lucky hes choosing flight. He probably Hasn’t been out that much by the looks of his reactions he’s just nervous. This is not a disaster, this just shows he has holes in his training…most likely ground work.
Por un momento no perfecto, no se puede negar que el caballo lo hizo bien casi todo, es hermoso.
Poor horses get overwhelmed with control and demands
A horse with tension due to disconfort, please ride with soft hands and legs. Read the classical masters.
That trot canter transition looked like it was full of ouchies for that horse. Excessive head bobing the looks weird... his face is super tense, the tail flicking. Hope hes fine
Poor horses
Poor horse
Not trying to be horrible but as an bserver I’d say that horse wants to do something else now
You are only in charge if the horse says it’s so……..
The horse spooked at something. She handled it beautifully.
Wat was that??? Extended trot???? I dont think so, 1:22
I'm trying to figure out what the disaster was...The horse was basically dancing. It was beautiful. What was a disaster?
If you reckon that is a disaster I would hate to see you try to ride the station horses 😂🤠