I was unlucky, I had the same problem where one pipe was hold one with one nut, when removing the old system one of the bolts that stick out of the engine block broke off, very unlucky, I went to a garage to remove it, they first welded another nut on it but it broke off too sadly so they bored it out en tapped a new tread for a new bolt. I fitted the same full black widow exhaust system with the steel blue tip 200 mm can, it's super loud! Sounds amazing, love the vids keep it up!
Surely the worst of the Divvy is the un aesthetic angle of the silencer/pipe. It would be a lot more pleasing on the eye to be either parallel to the ground or upswept . As always , thanks for the content.
The N is better for heat dispersion but in the summer both versions cook my thighs to well done. Granted though I love my 2010 F ABS. She's seen about 4 crashes in her life and she's still going strong
Vintage! I had a naked XJ6 as my first "big bike" when I passed my test a decade ago. So slow, so hot, so uncomfortable, so heavy feeling. Sold it within the year. I checked it out on the DVLA database recently and was happy to see it's still running and has an MOT, which is something I can't say for 2 of the 3 bikes I've had since! So at least it's a workhorse.
@@K0NSview I don’t know. If I was going to do it all over again now I’d probably get a 400 as a first bike after passing my test, would probably make me a better rider long term than going straight for a 600. For a 600 I’d definitely go for the SV650 for a couple of years.
Hey Spicy, I've had my XJ6 Diversion F in black for a couple of years now as my first big bike and agree with a lot of your loves and hates about the bike. I primarily use it for commuting and overall it is definitely a good reliable workhorse of a bike. Btw I'm also from the Portsmouth area not far from Hayling Island, still hoping that one of these days after the lockdown I might see you on the road!
I have had my FZ6R, The American version of the XJ6 Diversion F for just over a year. I have often heard it said that it is not very exciting but having test ridden the Honda CBR650 N and the Suzuki SV650 I think the Yamaha is just as exciting. You are right about the suspension. I am going to try a better quality tyre.
“This bike has another name….The Ball Cooker” Panigale owners be like “That’s cute” 😂 Amazing how such an uncomplicated and ‘boring’ (your words, not mine) bike can really root itself deep into your affections - yet tiny little niggles (like the scratch) can also boil your blood too.
Suspension is the weakest thing on my 2000 xj600 diversion, I've stiffened the damping on the front with heavier oil, that helps a bit but the chatter on a rough county road when you are giving it some is hysterical
My dad recently bought a 1995 Diversion as his midlife crisis bike, i've told him I'm nicking it when I get to the A2 License because it seems to be such a good all around bike.
My carburetor version CB600 Hornet gets really hot but I've found when I switched to synthetic motor oil, it cooled down a lot. More expensive obviously but worth it.
What bothers me on the XJ6 is that exhaust systems are expensive, and the stock one has a 4 pipes to 1 huge pipe, so to put a custom exhaust it's so expensive. If i could buy the big pipe > standard size then i'd be able to get it weld on and buy a cheap exhaust but nope.. you have to buy a kit to get that adapter and, usually, the mufflers that come in the kit are too loud, even with the DB killer in.
If your interested I have a scorpion slip on can for the XJ6 that you bolt to the stock exhaust. But I don't see why you couldn't cut off the end and weld her up for a straight through? 🤔 I live near spicy110
@@rebornspawn you can but you have to weld the fecker and it's TIG welding.. horrible with the argon gas etc :'3 nah don't worry, before tuning it i have to see why TF my engine is knocking at low RPM when hot.. happened right after the official service :/
I have a 2010 XJ6-N, riding in the Sydney heat I definitely get the ball cooker issue. I have a full Two Brothers system that has the can under the engine just like the stock system. The one issue with that exhaust is that its actually for a FZ6R so you either have to delete or remove the belly pan due to the headers sitting further from the engine. Love the vids!
I have an fz6 s2 even though they are different bikes with pretty much the same engine I totally get you with the ball cooker! Rather toasty which is not helped with the exhaust under the seat..
Number 1 suspension... If you are for example a GP Spec Rider let's say 5'6-6'0 with 75kg weight. Does soft/er suspension actually do anything if the bike doesn't even feel your weight on it?
Take that fairing off and have a go yourself, your more than capable of getting a nice job done. As for the exhaust, underslung for me, looks much better. I have the same exhaust on my Rebel 500, love it.
Spicy, here's an idea about your fairing. Years a go, 1990-ish, I had a red and white Kawasaki AR125 (oi! Stop sniggering at the back there!!!).... Haaaanyway... Being 17, and wanting to trade my financed bike back into the dealer when I passed my test to get a Blue/White GPX250R, I came up with a cheap way of filling in the scrapes I had on the cockpit fairing. Tippex. Yup, that old correctioner paste... Again, stop laughing as it piggin worked! I just kept adding layers til it filled the gouges and then lightly rubbed it back so the surface was smooth, then rattle canned the fairing (rubbing down with T-Cut between each spray), and bingo! Even the dealer could'nt see any marks under the mirror finish hahahaha haha 😉😁😎
Spicy. I want to get this bike in order to commute to work. The heating issue you pointed out is quite concerning as I’ll be travelling down the A1M and into the centre of London . What other bikes would be recommended for a 50 mile (each way) commute? I need a real workhorse
would be curious if you had the sensitivity to feel the difference after replacing the fork oil. What's your pre-load setting at the rear? Have you tried it at the max setting?
@@deanthompson88 Not a bad shout but i dont want to ride and put unneeded preasure on our health services so Ill walk to work and just not risk it.its better to wait it out, Ive got a sweet little trip planned for when this is over any how.
Clunky gearbox is something I have asked about in the past and all I can say is mine is fine. Good place to start is how well adjusted is the clutch and when was the oil last changed.
@@spicy110 might try another garage for repairs. When mine is cold, when I go to first gear it literally jolts forward. I tried a trick where before starting you get into second, clutch in fully and try to push the bike few meters. Feels like ceased clutch at first but then rolls fine and gears are a bit better for a while. No idea...
Hey Spicy, Thanks for the video. She looks so new for 50k. I've had my 2011 Diversion S for 1 year now. Its a slightly damaged one but only 13k miles and only £2k so still a great machine and probably got years of life left. I was wondering if you knew what the cheaper option would be to get better sound. Your Black Widow exhaust looks very expensive. Any suggestions would be very appreciated. Maybe if I keep this bike for years I can justify the cost as you never get your money back on these extras. Have you still got the bike?
Yes I still have the bike nearly 55k on it now. As the exhaust is an all in one I am sorry to say your only option is the full system. Black widow is by far the cheapest one I know of so it is kinda that. For me the sound transforms the bike but that is just me.
@@spicy110 thanks for reply. So you've persuaded me and I've just ordered a black widow. The basic stainless steel 300mm low level. How many BHP do you think you get? I'm sure I will feel the difference with 5kg less as well. Shame you don't live nr London, we could have done a divvy hooligan run round town. 😜
Hello everybody. i am new guy still on my way on getting my license and i have never driven a bike before. Is XJ6 friendly to new riders (beginners)???
I had one as my first big bike ten years ago, it was okay. Steering and suspension were vague and uninspiring and it always felt quite big and heavy to me compared to the power it put out. I grew out of it pretty quick. If I was passing my test these days I'd probably sacrifice the extra CC's and get something like a Ninja 400, R3, or an SV650, something light and good handling which you can really develop your skills on, ride for a coupe of years, then upgrade.
I have the opposite problem on the ninja 250, the suspension is so hard that my spine acts as a shock absorber. Also when you go over a big bump the plastics sound like they are breaking lol. The bike literally doesn't go down when I sit on it, might have to look if the suspension is set to the hardest setting or something but I don't know much about suspension. I'm afraid that one day something is gonna break off or the frame will crack lol
I thought this was a very honest review, out of interest have you tried riding the naked xj6? Im still on the lookout for some refirbished ohlins ya907
Ive had my xj6 for 6 years now and agree with all of the above, my biggest HATE is the gearbox tho, some days smooth, some days clunky but always works well well giving a good thrashing which is strange aha. im defo gonna ride her into the ground tho, she's been so reliable.
If you're complaining about heat - try a K1100. I have literally had burns on my calves last summer, and literally used correctly here. The bike has lovely in the winter. In the summer, yikes!
It would depend on what year busa you had and I was referring to. I have not got a thermometer and checked the exact temps, the point I was making is they both get hot and dump that heat in to the rider.
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I was unlucky, I had the same problem where one pipe was hold one with one nut, when removing the old system one of the bolts that stick out of the engine block broke off, very unlucky, I went to a garage to remove it, they first welded another nut on it but it broke off too sadly so they bored it out en tapped a new tread for a new bolt. I fitted the same full black widow exhaust system with the steel blue tip 200 mm can, it's super loud! Sounds amazing, love the vids keep it up!
Surely the worst of the Divvy is the un aesthetic angle of the silencer/pipe. It would be a lot more pleasing on the eye to be either parallel to the ground or upswept . As always , thanks for the content.
I thought about getting a xj6 but i got a hornet instead ,not a bad bike but i know a lot of the petrol station employees by name...
Haha Hornet is a great pick for something a bit more sporty.
The N is better for heat dispersion but in the summer both versions cook my thighs to well done.
Granted though I love my 2010 F ABS. She's seen about 4 crashes in her life and she's still going strong
Vintage! I had a naked XJ6 as my first "big bike" when I passed my test a decade ago. So slow, so hot, so uncomfortable, so heavy feeling. Sold it within the year. I checked it out on the DVLA database recently and was happy to see it's still running and has an MOT, which is something I can't say for 2 of the 3 bikes I've had since! So at least it's a workhorse.
what do u suggest then for first one min 600cc
@@K0NSview I don’t know. If I was going to do it all over again now I’d probably get a 400 as a first bike after passing my test, would probably make me a better rider long term than going straight for a 600. For a 600 I’d definitely go for the SV650 for a couple of years.
Hey Spicy, I've had my XJ6 Diversion F in black for a couple of years now as my first big bike and agree with a lot of your loves and hates about the bike. I primarily use it for commuting and overall it is definitely a good reliable workhorse of a bike. Btw I'm also from the Portsmouth area not far from Hayling Island, still hoping that one of these days after the lockdown I might see you on the road!
I have had my FZ6R, The American version of the XJ6 Diversion F for just over a year. I have often heard it said that it is not very exciting but having test ridden the Honda CBR650 N and the Suzuki SV650 I think the Yamaha is just as exciting. You are right about the suspension. I am going to try a better quality tyre.
“This bike has another name….The Ball Cooker”
Panigale owners be like “That’s cute” 😂
Amazing how such an uncomplicated and ‘boring’ (your words, not mine) bike can really root itself deep into your affections - yet tiny little niggles (like the scratch) can also boil your blood too.
Suspension is the weakest thing on my 2000 xj600 diversion, I've stiffened the damping on the front with heavier oil, that helps a bit but the chatter on a rough county road when you are giving it some is hysterical
My dad recently bought a 1995 Diversion as his midlife crisis bike, i've told him I'm nicking it when I get to the A2 License because it seems to be such a good all around bike.
My carburetor version CB600 Hornet gets really hot but I've found when I switched to synthetic motor oil, it cooled down a lot. More expensive obviously but worth it.
What bothers me on the XJ6 is that exhaust systems are expensive, and the stock one has a 4 pipes to 1 huge pipe, so to put a custom exhaust it's so expensive.
If i could buy the big pipe > standard size then i'd be able to get it weld on and buy a cheap exhaust but nope.. you have to buy a kit to get that adapter and, usually, the mufflers that come in the kit are too loud, even with the DB killer in.
If your interested I have a scorpion slip on can for the XJ6 that you bolt to the stock exhaust. But I don't see why you couldn't cut off the end and weld her up for a straight through? 🤔 I live near spicy110
@@rebornspawn you can but you have to weld the fecker and it's TIG welding.. horrible with the argon gas etc :'3 nah don't worry, before tuning it i have to see why TF my engine is knocking at low RPM when hot.. happened right after the official service :/
I have a 2010 XJ6-N, riding in the Sydney heat I definitely get the ball cooker issue. I have a full Two Brothers system that has the can under the engine just like the stock system. The one issue with that exhaust is that its actually for a FZ6R so you either have to delete or remove the belly pan due to the headers sitting further from the engine. Love the vids!
I have an fz6 s2 even though they are different bikes with pretty much the same engine I totally get you with the ball cooker! Rather toasty which is not helped with the exhaust under the seat..
Number 1 suspension...
If you are for example a GP Spec Rider let's say 5'6-6'0 with 75kg weight.
Does soft/er suspension actually do anything if the bike doesn't even feel your weight on it?
All in all divvy is basically a flawless daily bike for what it is.
Take that fairing off and have a go yourself, your more than capable of getting a nice job done. As for the exhaust, underslung for me, looks much better. I have the same exhaust on my Rebel 500, love it.
What do you think is the ideal bike to start with mate? Hoping to do my full licence after lock down
Spicy, here's an idea about your fairing. Years a go, 1990-ish, I had a red and white Kawasaki AR125 (oi! Stop sniggering at the back there!!!).... Haaaanyway... Being 17, and wanting to trade my financed bike back into the dealer when I passed my test to get a Blue/White GPX250R, I came up with a cheap way of filling in the scrapes I had on the cockpit fairing. Tippex. Yup, that old correctioner paste... Again, stop laughing as it piggin worked! I just kept adding layers til it filled the gouges and then lightly rubbed it back so the surface was smooth, then rattle canned the fairing (rubbing down with T-Cut between each spray), and bingo! Even the dealer could'nt see any marks under the mirror finish hahahaha haha 😉😁😎
You make the Divvy look tiny haha, nice video nonetheless!!
Spicy. I want to get this bike in order to commute to work. The heating issue you pointed out is quite concerning as I’ll be travelling down the A1M and into the centre of London . What other bikes would be recommended for a 50 mile (each way) commute? I need a real workhorse
would be curious if you had the sensitivity to feel the difference after replacing the fork oil. What's your pre-load setting at the rear? Have you tried it at the max setting?
been waiting for this since i bought my XJ6 i havnt riden it yet because of the lockdown!
Sick on a backpack and take the long way to Tescos next time you need something, as long as you dont go around trying to bukkake anyone it'll be fine.
@@deanthompson88 Not a bad shout but i dont want to ride and put unneeded preasure on our health services so Ill walk to work and just not risk it.its better to wait it out, Ive got a sweet little trip planned for when this is over any how.
Going off subject, can anyone tell me what the CO adjustment does on (adjusted via the clocks) and is more better ?
I’m seriously considering buying one for my first bike….is it a good starter in your opinion?
I have a XJ6 2014 ABS as first bike, it’s awesome!
@@destrozo83 I ended up buying one in March, think it’s great also. 👍
@@PotRipp3r yeah I also bought it around that period. Got the license in June and already done over 3000 km 😅. So much fun and smooth rides 🚀🥳
Congrats on 80k man 👏
Nice to see you making good use of the locks down. Well done pal. I know how easy it would be to nip out for a spin.
Get an ABBA stand. Then you can go back with exhaust and not have to use paddock stand.
Hi. Found similar annoyances with mine plus gears... The box is clunky as hell. Some gears feel like they don't want to be engaged at all.
Clunky gearbox is something I have asked about in the past and all I can say is mine is fine. Good place to start is how well adjusted is the clutch and when was the oil last changed.
@@spicy110 done both even changed clutch in mine. Will try Yamaha lube next time, currently running Castrol.
I doubt a different oil will change it tbh, I use castrol too.
@@spicy110 might try another garage for repairs. When mine is cold, when I go to first gear it literally jolts forward.
I tried a trick where before starting you get into second, clutch in fully and try to push the bike few meters. Feels like ceased clutch at first but then rolls fine and gears are a bit better for a while. No idea...
Hey Spicy, Thanks for the video. She looks so new for 50k. I've had my 2011 Diversion S for 1 year now. Its a slightly damaged one but only 13k miles and only £2k so still a great machine and probably got years of life left. I was wondering if you knew what the cheaper option would be to get better sound. Your Black Widow exhaust looks very expensive. Any suggestions would be very appreciated. Maybe if I keep this bike for years I can justify the cost as you never get your money back on these extras. Have you still got the bike?
Yes I still have the bike nearly 55k on it now. As the exhaust is an all in one I am sorry to say your only option is the full system. Black widow is by far the cheapest one I know of so it is kinda that. For me the sound transforms the bike but that is just me.
@@spicy110 thanks for reply. So you've persuaded me and I've just ordered a black widow. The basic stainless steel 300mm low level. How many BHP do you think you get? I'm sure I will feel the difference with 5kg less as well.
Shame you don't live nr London, we could have done a divvy hooligan run round town. 😜
Hello everybody. i am new guy still on my way on getting my license and i have never driven a bike before. Is XJ6 friendly to new riders (beginners)???
I had one as my first big bike ten years ago, it was okay. Steering and suspension were vague and uninspiring and it always felt quite big and heavy to me compared to the power it put out. I grew out of it pretty quick. If I was passing my test these days I'd probably sacrifice the extra CC's and get something like a Ninja 400, R3, or an SV650, something light and good handling which you can really develop your skills on, ride for a coupe of years, then upgrade.
I have the opposite problem on the ninja 250, the suspension is so hard that my spine acts as a shock absorber. Also when you go over a big bump the plastics sound like they are breaking lol. The bike literally doesn't go down when I sit on it, might have to look if the suspension is set to the hardest setting or something but I don't know much about suspension. I'm afraid that one day something is gonna break off or the frame will crack lol
That or the person who last changed fork oil used the wrong stuff and or too much of it. But yeah I will take the soft over rock hand haha 🙂👍
I thought this was a very honest review, out of interest have you tried riding the naked xj6? Im still on the lookout for some refirbished ohlins ya907
No sadly never had the opportunity to ride the naked.
@@spicy110 Once everything starts going back to normal I'd enjoy planning a trip down to one of your meets, I'd happily let you test it out👍
Tail tidy a good job,stock is vile
I still think my bike is louder with lextek cp1 fitted as we tried out at goodwood....lol
I would probably agree haha
@@spicy110 hopefully it will be getting a decat when this is all over.
Ive had my xj6 for 6 years now and agree with all of the above, my biggest HATE is the gearbox tho, some days smooth, some days clunky but always works well well giving a good thrashing which is strange aha. im defo gonna ride her into the ground tho, she's been so reliable.
I have had a very people say this but mine is really good! I guess I got lucky.
Getting near 10 year old is Divi.. She's certainly not ready for retirement yet 👍
Kills my back
If you're complaining about heat - try a K1100. I have literally had burns on my calves last summer, and literally used correctly here. The bike has lovely in the winter. In the summer, yikes!
Haha maybe its preset from German cold 🙂
Spicy what do you think bout doing another meet up? Considering your fame and popularity these days?
Haha I prefer well know 🙈 I have talked about a meet I was planning one this year. That looks very unlikely now sadly.
What year is it
I answer that 16 seconds in to the video...
spicy110 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Unbelievable , my 2009 plate had the rear swingarm replaced as it rotted . Was it just taken out once a year?
Under exhaust is better
How tall are you bro?
6'4
@@spicy110 im 6'8...hard for mi to find right size motorcycle. Any suggestions?
@@deejaywlada which country you live?
How can you hate anything on her lol...
It's a budget made bike
How much was this bike when it was released?
Video: 5 things I hate about the xj6
#1 suspension
#2 the paint chip
#3 ????
Lol
No Hayabusa it's not hotter wtf I have I Hayabusa and it's colder
It would depend on what year busa you had and I was referring to. I have not got a thermometer and checked the exact temps, the point I was making is they both get hot and dump that heat in to the rider.
SREMSKI!!!!!!!