Phoenix navy should be good to since reload on it is like 10s. Also worth noting is these things shows up on the in game map so the more you run them the more visible they will be for hostiles to come to greet you with free ammo. I use dread guristas shield booster since it reps more = fewer cycles, and a smart bomb for the very close rat.
@@Googinot something like this [Phoenix Navy Issue, Fit 1] Sentient Damage Control Missile Guidance Enhancer II Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Capital Shield Booster Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script CONCORD Capital Shield Extender Pithum A-Type Multispectrum Shield Hardener Domination Target Painter Shadow Serpentis Heavy Stasis Grappler Dark Blood Capital Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 3200 Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Module II Dark Blood Large EMP Smartbomb Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Capital Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
I don't know about everyone else, but i count the set up time, getting to destination and the likes when calculating isk per hour. We just watched a 30 min video after he was on spot, so i think its more like 300 mil per hour and he said that was a great drop.
Honestly, having a friend doing this while leaving behind salvage for me to take is an EVE friend goal. Who knows the salvage might hold something good :)
Could swap missile range for 2nd precision script in targeting computer; you only need the range when dealing with a far out orbiting rat. But get the general point: it tedious, potentially dangerous and not that lucrative …
Did discount the killmail later? It's easy target, ppl can literally see on the f9 map. It's easy for horde to do bc no enemy is close enough. But impossible for other alliances who have enemys at their door
Wormholes exist a d whaling fleets exist. Horde loses a super regularly and dreads die between 30 sec and a minute to a competent group. Your only chance to survive is with a giga passive capless tank supercarrier with a fax alt logged out to land next to you when it is logged on and an alt in a cyno cloaked up on grid to bring in the standing fleet for defense. No active cap modules because they will cap you out in less than 30 seconds and those Gucci x types are useless when they donot run.
@@williamnicholson8133 50% ???, if you get caught in a dread you are as good as dead, even in big null group like horde or goons. you die in matter of seconds in a dread so no one can save you , the only perk for being in big null group is because they have SRP program which if applied will give you the dread hull back if you lost it
Would need a fair bit of reps ore massive tank these rats do hit hard, when i played with them early on i saw over 9k damage hits, could have been tuned but seems Rorquals are often used as well.
@@BanControl except that it could be multiple rats doing that much damage A carrier doesn't have the repairs, buffer and resists of a dreadnought, and they can target your fighters A supercarrier works better than a carrier when it comes to clearing the sites
~93m Jita buy. I’m not a fan of the thing, poorly thought out. The bounties make up for the beacon cost if your BRM is decent. But still it’s boring AF
@@JAKEL33T While it is boring, it seems to be the most straight forward way of making 1bill/hr. (not counting expenses) but doing it for an hour for 4-5 days, pays for the dread, the fit, and expenses. So I mean it seems worth it to me.
@@JAKEL33T This could definitely get boring after a while but eh it's good money... What I'm more interested in is your overview settings I've been running around using the SaraShawa ones a mate recommended forever ago and am reasonably happy with them but am beginning to also hate them. Any way to get an explanation on yours or a link to them in specifics.
Carriers might not have enough tank to withstand all of the hits Some rats have over 20k buffer too, a carrier would take a while + fighters could be targeted + weaker tank
no carrier can do this, no matter how blinged. SupCarriers on the other hand are perfect - no matter how big a redeemer fleet, they can never pop you before your umbrella answers.
I dont understand how CCP thought this was good content. They came up with what is probably the most boring ratting mechanic there is in the game... I'll keep doing havens and sanctums with my carrier, since that is fun and actually requires to have fingers.
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There's so much to EVE that I didn't even know existed.
thats a familiar feeling
Crazy, isn't it?!
The search anything option was enough to blow me away. It's magical.
Phoenix navy should be good to since reload on it is like 10s.
Also worth noting is these things shows up on the in game map so the more you run them the more visible they will be for hostiles to come to greet you with free ammo.
I use dread guristas shield booster since it reps more = fewer cycles, and a smart bomb for the very close rat.
Can you show your fit? thx
@@Googinot something like this
[Phoenix Navy Issue, Fit 1]
Sentient Damage Control
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System
Dread Guristas Capital Shield Booster
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Missile Guidance Computer II, Missile Precision Script
CONCORD Capital Shield Extender
Pithum A-Type Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Domination Target Painter
Shadow Serpentis Heavy Stasis Grappler
Dark Blood Capital Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 3200
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Rapid Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Siege Module II
Dark Blood Large EMP Smartbomb
Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Capital Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Capital Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II
You can see multiples PH suca and carriers ratting on CRAB continously on systems in 5 jumps radius around MJ.
I don't know about everyone else, but i count the set up time, getting to destination and the likes when calculating isk per hour. We just watched a 30 min video after he was on spot, so i think its more like 300 mil per hour and he said that was a great drop.
Honestly, having a friend doing this while leaving behind salvage for me to take is an EVE friend goal.
Who knows the salvage might hold something good :)
The salvage is sub 2m for 3 beacons
@@svenbauer yikes
@@svenbauer that is ass!
i would love to just flying near and collecting all rest of the scrap with my salvager right there haha. im new and making like 2 mill 3-4 hours.
Got any better? Do some project discovery. It's boring as hell but the rewards and ISK are good.
@@alanwatts8239 That's a great description of most things in EVE, boring as hell but you can make good isk/hr.
Nice, plus you have the bounties, plus if you had a salvage module you could salvage the wrecks.
I'm going to have to try this.
Could swap missile range for 2nd precision script in targeting computer; you only need the range when dealing with a far out orbiting rat. But get the general point: it tedious, potentially dangerous and not that lucrative …
finally im looking into CRABs on my own. why do you have a cloak equipped instead of an sbomb?
And some times can be a officer spawn in beacon and if we look for brm isk can be much more
Did discount the killmail later?
It's easy target, ppl can literally see on the f9 map.
It's easy for horde to do bc no enemy is close enough. But impossible for other alliances who have enemys at their door
Wormholes exist a d whaling fleets exist. Horde loses a super regularly and dreads die between 30 sec and a minute to a competent group. Your only chance to survive is with a giga passive capless tank supercarrier with a fax alt logged out to land next to you when it is logged on and an alt in a cyno cloaked up on grid to bring in the standing fleet for defense. No active cap modules because they will cap you out in less than 30 seconds and those Gucci x types are useless when they donot run.
Thank you!!!
i mean you can only run this in a dread if your part of horde or goons anywhere else and your good as dead from kiki's :/
Exactly this, you have to be a part of a big null bloc and have the skills to do it in a capital.
Even in horde dreads have less than 50% save rate to a competent group. One delay or mistake the dread is done
@@williamnicholson8133 50% ???, if you get caught in a dread you are as good as dead, even in big null group like horde or goons. you die in matter of seconds in a dread so no one can save you , the only perk for being in big null group is because they have SRP program which if applied will give you the dread hull back if you lost it
Does the crab beacon also spawn loot too? I thought they did.
bro i literally live in the pocket next to this one there are neut all day ain't it dangerous
Jakel33T looking for a wingman?
Can you reuse the beacon or is it one time?
beacons are 1 time use things, but the cost of them is well worth it if you can run them
carriers seem like they would actually be good for these no? dps should be sufficient enough, and you dont have to worry about siege locking you down
Would need a fair bit of reps ore massive tank these rats do hit hard, when i played with them early on i saw over 9k damage hits, could have been tuned but seems
Rorquals are often used as well.
@@BerraLJ seems about on par with npc dread dps
@@BanControl except that it could be multiple rats doing that much damage
A carrier doesn't have the repairs, buffer and resists of a dreadnought, and they can target your fighters
A supercarrier works better than a carrier when it comes to clearing the sites
@@thearsalandombgaming but a carrier can do 3x the dps of a rorq, clearing enemies significantly faster.
@@BanControl from what I have heard about rorquals there are two used
Hey what implants do you recommend with the pheonix? I'm close to running that fit myself given 40 days or so
Until you get dropped a d lose your ship .
thats why you just do one at a time
CTRL+R to reload yeesh.
I have no idea what is going on
He's doing some EVEey stuff in a big ship for DANK ISK!!!!
@@Camcolito if you minus the cost of the beacon, the money cant even be compared to using an ishtar and ratting and doing DED
@@tuantranlong6349 I know, I was just being silly.
@@tuantranlong6349 Isktar ftw!
So where do you do this exactly, just to know so that i don't go there ofc!
JKJK, nice vid, explains a lot!
Minus the cost of the beacon is what like 100m. nah thanks
~93m Jita buy. I’m not a fan of the thing, poorly thought out. The bounties make up for the beacon cost if your BRM is decent. But still it’s boring AF
@@JAKEL33T While it is boring, it seems to be the most straight forward way of making 1bill/hr. (not counting expenses) but doing it for an hour for 4-5 days, pays for the dread, the fit, and expenses. So I mean it seems worth it to me.
@@JAKEL33T This could definitely get boring after a while but eh it's good money...
What I'm more interested in is your overview settings I've been running around using the SaraShawa ones a mate recommended forever ago and am reasonably happy with them but am beginning to also hate them. Any way to get an explanation on yours or a link to them in specifics.
@@GuitarFreak1351 1bill /hr how ?? u get like half of that max - cost of beacon, so like 400m, u mean multiboxing 2 capitals ?
@@GuitarFreak1351 dont forget that you can only do it 3 times per day
Why not do a carrier on this
Carriers might not have enough tank to withstand all of the hits
Some rats have over 20k buffer too, a carrier would take a while + fighters could be targeted + weaker tank
no carrier can do this, no matter how blinged. SupCarriers on the other hand are perfect - no matter how big a redeemer fleet, they can never pop you before your umbrella answers.
@@StarsingerOG theres a youtube vid of a carrier doing this, in a thanatos.
Whatever’s in your mouth, take it out and never put it back in your mouth again
If i would do this i would have a lachesis on me in 0.5 seconds
CEQ is such a dumb system. EVE is basically a mobile game now
I dont understand how CCP thought this was good content. They came up with what is probably the most boring ratting mechanic there is in the game... I'll keep doing havens and sanctums with my carrier, since that is fun and actually requires to have fingers.
Hydras or go home.
5b>100mill
no local, no dscan open... that's a bad practice to demonstrate in a tutorial video :P
I run an ultrawide so it's not visible to you.
@@JAKEL33T Oh, totally fine then! Thanks for the informative and well explained video! Keep up the good work!
when you flying in some ship, people will have to think twice before messing with you
eve is over rated. slow, skills take lifetime to up and all folks do is waste time on it. Lets gate camp. duh. rat? lame.
Sorry to hear, that you value your personal thoughts and feelings so highly and to the point, where you deem them so profoundly true, to be sufficient to honour us with your so long awaited and, I might ad, eloquent judgement on the topic. Without you pointing out the facts, we would have never known. We needed this. Thank you so much and keep up the good work!
@@wolfmoz2232 its true tho.. eve training time even aftering being the most expensive sub is ridic.