This is an excerptional talk in using the Alamo to explore how myth, legend and imagination , how we interpret events, often are more mportant than the facts of the event itself. My only concern is the lack of mention of slavery as part of the function of that event.
For over 20yrs I've enjoyed Mr. Hutton's historical information on every TV historical series or video I've seen, whether it's wars, Indians or whatever else.
Juan Seguin didn't "Escape" The Alamo, he was sent out by the orders of Travis as a Messenger, but when he got back to The Alamo, it had already fallen. It was simply too late, and therefore Seguin avoided the fate of those who fell there & like Hutton says went on to serve Valiantly with other Tejanos at San Jacinto. He and his Cavalry of Tejanos also fought a rear guard for fleeing Texian families in what was called "The Runaway Scrape" & did quite well delaying the advancing Mexican Army & helped keep Santa Anna's army from crossing the Brazos River, to allow those fleeing to escape to relative safety. nThe man even acted as a Representative of The Republic Of Texas to accept the Mexican surrender...At The Alamo, the most appropriate of all places. Hell, he even was in charge of the burial of the ashes of those who fell and were burned after the battle at The Alamo, or as he later recounted, placed the ashes in a tomb inside the Cathedral of San Antonio, or Cathedral of San Fernando where nthey were discovered in 1936, but accounts vary & no one really knows whose ashes were interred. Sadly his service was repaid with despicable behavior by his fellow "Texians", as sadly was the case with other Tejanos who also fought. bled and sacrificed during the war for Texan independence. They got a few parades and little lofty oratory exalting their exemplary bravery that greeted the Anglo warriors & that is a Damnable Shame. As an Anglo I can with all sincerity say that I am very glad that his bravery, sacrifice and service to Texas, and ultimately The US has finally been recognized. He and the other Tejanos were every bit as much heroes as Travis, Bowie, Crockett, Houston, Deaf Smith & the others & they, even if it's way past too late, must be given their due & just recognition. If you think about it, Seguin & the other Tejanos had more to lose than the Texians. They were actually fighting against what was considered their fellow Mexicans & by extension, their heritage & country of birth. His Father even helped write The Mexican Constitution, which was repealed by Santa Anna. That could not have been easy & their treatment when those who fled to Mexico arrived, could not have been a welcome with open arms, by either the Government of Mexico or the Mexican people. "He was captured, arrested and coerced to enlist in the Mexican army as a staff officer" & fought under Santa Anna in The Mexican American War of 1846 t0 1848. After his return to Texas he was a Founding Father of the Texas Democratic Party.....Talk about Irony.....The over all treatment of Seguin & other Tejanos in Mexico is largely just a guess, but an educated one, based on my study of history and personal experience...(That Traitorous Scumbag Bowe Bergdahl comes immediately to mind)..... Yeah, I know the Texians swore allegiance and became citizens of Mexico, Converted to the Roman Catholic Faith and all that jazz, but I think everybody's realized by now that was just a ruse to gain land & even those most devout in their sworn oath were half hearted, at best in their fealty to the Mexican Government, especially when Santa Anna attempted to bring them to heel, under his rule. Also some of the migrants to Texas had the veiled, if not outright urging from Old Andy Jackson with an eye to one day annexing what was Mexico, then Texas into the US...Some say Crockett was among those, although some of his letters and statements indicate otherwise, but Crockett might have been "Half Horse & Half Alligator and a Bit of Snapping Turtle", he was also a pretty accomplished politician as well. At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it
The battle of the Alamo and the aftermath was about capitalism, racism and slavery. Anglos from the south needed slaves to prosper.These Anglos established a genicidal campaign against the Comaches and later against Mexican Americans. They robbed and murdered Mexican families at will. This is what happens when you have criminals that take over the Government. Someone please correct me if I am wrong !! I am of Mexican and Anglo decent and my ancesters go back to the 1500's in Texas.
You think about the Tejanos were already in Texas for several generations. They had established their homes. They were born in Texas. That's fighting for freedom and liberty not when you just arrived to Texas a week prior!!!
@@joegarcia3313 Fair but s bit Inaccurate......Comanche Raiders didn't check ethnicity of those they Murdered, Tortured, Raped, or sold into Slavery In Mexico....Often All Of The Above. They were indiscriminate marauding Cut Throats, while being Arguably one of, if not the Finest Mounted Cavalry of that age, or any other in History...Credit where Credit is due & their Horsemanship was never really surpassed, with the possible & Doubtful exception of The Lakota of The Great Plains. Mexicans Raided, Robbed & Murdered Indiscriminately on both & either side of the Rio Grande, as did Anglos who did the same Murdering, Raiding, Raping & Pillaging with the Exact Same ferocity. You only have to look at the history of The Nueces Strip & the Absolute Wanton Carnage that went on there for Decades. At one point or another in "The Strip" Everybody was Killing Everybody Else....Or they were at least trying to. Even the Worst Miscreants were, to their way of thinking, "Fighting For Their Homes" or to establish a Home for themselves, by Hook or By Crook & Damn The Consequences, in their cases....Some just liked the Killing & Mayhem, but they didn't usually live to Old Age, or accomplish much of any note. Also In, Around and Among all the Madness were Good, Decent & Honorable People, for their time, People Of All Races, Ethnicity & parentage, who were simply trying to survive, raise a family & better their lot in life. All Mexicans were and Still Are Far from being "Shiftless, Lazy, & Good For Nothing" All White People were and Are Far from being the Genocidal maniacs that modern "Woke" Historians portray them as. The Indians.....They Got Screwed By Everybody Else, Plain & Simple, but their lifestyles were so adverse to either White or Latino Culture, and being so Far Outnumbered by the Pioneers/Settlers/Colonizers/Whatever, that their way of life was Doomed from the first step into their territory by either a Viking, an Italian, a European, or a Spaniard.....It's just too bad it was done in such an Abysmal Way, by Everybody that came into contact with them. You have a Great & Very Interesting Heritage. I hope you have, or will study it All & learn as much as you possibly can about who and where you come from. There maybe old Spanish Land grants, Etc. to refer to & all sorts of other Records as well. Logic dictates that you have to have some Very Interesting People among your Ancestry & you should get to know them, if you can.
Yes, it was if this was true! The Mexicans lost 60 men on the Alamo battlefield, however, about 60 more died of their wounds in the following weeks, up till May 24h, when General Andrade left San Antonio. The Alamo defenders, mostly illegal aliens from the States, numbered 253 dead (est.). A GREAT Victory for the Mexican Arnmy for all time!@@kenkaplan3654
I do object the premise that the Alamo is American history. It is solely Texas history. You will have to prove to me that the defenders of the Alamo fought and died on behalf of the United States of America
Kennedy didn't issue a "clarion call for Americans to fight for liberty in Viet Nam"...he said a massive U.S. combat commitment would be crazy. The "historian" is mistaking JFK for Johnson.
That part I remember all too well. LBJ thought Escalating the War would make him Politically Unbeatable......Boy Was He Ever Wrong! The fact that he was a Dishonest & Even More Dishonorable, Crude, Abrasive, Foul Mouthed, Racist Scumbag & Feckless Opportunist didn't help one bit either. He was a character from a Bad Tobacco Roadesque Play Scrawled by Wannabe Tennessee Williams, who Fell Miserably Short. History, Most Correctly & Accurately, does not look upon him with much Favor at all. I have Friends & Shipmates whose names are on That Fucking Wall, thanks to LBJ and his Warmongering......In Short....Fuck Him
So there really was "A Line In The Sand" drawn by W. B. Travis, according to Hutton? I'm really glad to hear that it has been, by verbal testimony of people who were actually there, proven fact, rather than fiction. I've read many arguments on both sides, but, in this case, I'll take Hutton's word as gospel. Either way, I "Want" & choose to believe it actually happened.
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This is an excerptional talk in using the Alamo to explore how myth, legend and imagination , how we interpret events, often are more mportant than the facts of the event itself. My only concern is the lack of mention of slavery as part of the function of that event.
For over 20yrs I've enjoyed Mr. Hutton's historical information on every TV historical series or video I've seen, whether it's wars, Indians or whatever else.
Very nice to see you pauley. I have long enjoyed your explainations.
This guy needs to go back to New Mexico if he thinks less than 5 TEJANOS died at the Alamo.!!!
Juan Seguin didn't "Escape" The Alamo, he was sent out by the orders of Travis as a Messenger, but when he got back to The Alamo, it had already fallen. It was simply too late, and therefore Seguin avoided the fate of those who fell there & like Hutton says went on to serve Valiantly with other Tejanos at San Jacinto. He and his Cavalry of Tejanos also fought a rear guard for fleeing Texian families in what was called "The Runaway Scrape" & did quite well delaying the advancing Mexican Army & helped keep Santa Anna's army from crossing the Brazos River, to allow those fleeing to escape to relative safety. nThe man even acted as a Representative of The Republic Of Texas to accept the Mexican surrender...At The Alamo, the most appropriate of all places. Hell, he even was in charge of the burial of the ashes of those who fell and were burned after the battle at The Alamo, or as he later recounted, placed the ashes in a tomb inside the Cathedral of San Antonio, or Cathedral of San Fernando where nthey were discovered in 1936, but accounts vary & no one really knows whose ashes were interred. Sadly his service was repaid with despicable behavior by his fellow "Texians", as sadly was the case with other Tejanos who also fought. bled and sacrificed during the war for Texan independence. They got a few parades and little lofty oratory exalting their exemplary bravery that greeted the Anglo warriors & that is a Damnable Shame.
As an Anglo I can with all sincerity say that I am very glad that his bravery, sacrifice and service to Texas, and ultimately The US has finally been recognized. He and the other Tejanos were every bit as much heroes as Travis, Bowie, Crockett, Houston, Deaf Smith & the others & they, even if it's way past too late, must be given their due & just recognition.
If you think about it, Seguin & the other Tejanos had more to lose than the Texians. They were actually fighting against what was considered their fellow Mexicans & by extension, their heritage & country of birth. His Father even helped write The Mexican Constitution, which was repealed by Santa Anna. That could not have been easy & their treatment when those who fled to Mexico arrived, could not have been a welcome with open arms, by either the Government of Mexico or the Mexican people. "He was captured, arrested and coerced to enlist in the Mexican army as a staff officer" & fought under Santa Anna in The Mexican American War of 1846 t0 1848. After his return to Texas he was a Founding Father of the Texas Democratic Party.....Talk about Irony.....The over all treatment of Seguin & other Tejanos in Mexico is largely just a guess, but an educated one, based on my study of history and personal experience...(That Traitorous Scumbag Bowe Bergdahl comes immediately to mind).....
Yeah, I know the Texians swore allegiance and became citizens of Mexico, Converted to the Roman Catholic Faith and all that jazz, but I think everybody's realized by now that was just a ruse to gain land & even those most devout in their sworn oath were half hearted, at best in their fealty to the Mexican Government, especially when Santa Anna attempted to bring them to heel, under his rule. Also some of the migrants to Texas had the veiled, if not outright urging from Old Andy Jackson with an eye to one day annexing what was Mexico, then Texas into the US...Some say Crockett was among those, although some of his letters and statements indicate otherwise, but Crockett might have been "Half Horse & Half Alligator and a Bit of Snapping Turtle", he was also a pretty accomplished politician as well.
At least, that's my story and I'm sticking to it
The battle of the Alamo and the aftermath was about capitalism, racism and slavery. Anglos from the south needed slaves to prosper.These Anglos established a genicidal campaign against the Comaches and later against Mexican Americans. They robbed and murdered Mexican families at will. This is what happens when you have criminals that take over
the Government. Someone please correct me if I am wrong !! I am of Mexican and Anglo decent and my ancesters go back to the 1500's in Texas.
You think about the Tejanos were already in Texas for several generations. They had established their homes. They were born in Texas. That's fighting for freedom and liberty not when you just arrived to Texas a week prior!!!
@@joegarcia3313 Fair but s bit Inaccurate......Comanche Raiders didn't check ethnicity of those they Murdered, Tortured, Raped, or sold into Slavery In Mexico....Often All Of The Above. They were indiscriminate marauding Cut Throats, while being Arguably one of, if not the Finest Mounted Cavalry of that age, or any other in History...Credit where Credit is due & their Horsemanship was never really surpassed, with the possible & Doubtful exception of The Lakota of The Great Plains.
Mexicans Raided, Robbed & Murdered Indiscriminately on both & either side of the Rio Grande, as did Anglos who did the same Murdering, Raiding, Raping & Pillaging with the Exact Same ferocity. You only have to look at the history of The Nueces Strip & the Absolute Wanton Carnage that went on there for Decades. At one point or another in "The Strip" Everybody was Killing Everybody Else....Or they were at least trying to.
Even the Worst Miscreants were, to their way of thinking, "Fighting For Their Homes" or to establish a Home for themselves, by Hook or By Crook & Damn The Consequences, in their cases....Some just liked the Killing & Mayhem, but they didn't usually live to Old Age, or accomplish much of any note. Also In, Around and Among all the Madness were Good, Decent & Honorable People, for their time, People Of All Races, Ethnicity & parentage, who were simply trying to survive, raise a family & better their lot in life.
All Mexicans were and Still Are Far from being "Shiftless, Lazy, & Good For Nothing"
All White People were and Are Far from being the Genocidal maniacs that modern "Woke" Historians portray them as.
The Indians.....They Got Screwed By Everybody Else, Plain & Simple, but their lifestyles were so adverse to either White or Latino Culture, and being so Far Outnumbered by the Pioneers/Settlers/Colonizers/Whatever, that their way of life was Doomed from the first step into their territory by either a Viking, an Italian, a European, or a Spaniard.....It's just too bad it was done in such an Abysmal Way, by Everybody that came into contact with them.
You have a Great & Very Interesting Heritage. I hope you have, or will study it All & learn as much as you possibly can about who and where you come from. There maybe old Spanish Land grants, Etc. to refer to & all sorts of other Records as well. Logic dictates that you have to have some Very Interesting People among your Ancestry & you should get to know them, if you can.
Today is March 6th, and it's nice seeing Texas honor a Mexican victory...forever!
For your information Borroel,Texas doesn't celebrate the fall of Alamo .We celebrate San Jacinto day on April21,each and every year. You pendejo.
It was quite the Pyrrhic victory.
Yes, it was if this was true! The Mexicans lost 60 men on the Alamo battlefield, however, about 60 more died of their wounds in the following weeks, up till May 24h, when General Andrade left San Antonio. The Alamo defenders, mostly illegal aliens from the States, numbered 253 dead (est.). A GREAT Victory for the Mexican Arnmy for all time!@@kenkaplan3654
I do object the premise that the Alamo is American history. It is solely Texas history. You will have to prove to me that the defenders of the Alamo fought and died on behalf of the United States of America
It has been appropriated as it was primarily an Anglo affair which both Texas and the US shared and most defenders had come from the US.
Kennedy didn't issue a "clarion call for Americans to fight for liberty in Viet Nam"...he said a massive U.S. combat commitment would be crazy. The "historian" is mistaking JFK for Johnson.
That part I remember all too well. LBJ thought Escalating the War would make him Politically Unbeatable......Boy Was He Ever Wrong!
The fact that he was a Dishonest & Even More Dishonorable, Crude, Abrasive, Foul Mouthed, Racist Scumbag & Feckless Opportunist didn't help one bit either. He was a character from a Bad Tobacco Roadesque Play Scrawled by Wannabe Tennessee Williams, who Fell Miserably Short.
History, Most Correctly & Accurately, does not look upon him with much Favor at all.
I have Friends & Shipmates whose names are on That Fucking Wall, thanks to LBJ and his Warmongering......In Short....Fuck Him
So there really was "A Line In The Sand" drawn by W. B. Travis, according to Hutton? I'm really glad to hear that it has been, by verbal testimony of people who were actually there, proven fact, rather than fiction. I've read many arguments on both sides, but, in this case, I'll take Hutton's word as gospel. Either way, I "Want" & choose to believe it actually happened.
Seems that Hutton wants to play the clown, instead of acting serious! Well, he got his laffs!