This is proper Automotive journalism. Today, all you hear in this great video is summed up in the following words "It's incredibly fast". It's a bit of a shame.
The flicker from the camera is called a duty cycle. It is common in led lighting to conserve power, and life of the bulbs. The human eye cannot see it because the time the light is on vs off is so quickly transitioned that we simply can't tell the difference, but a device recording at a mixed frame rate will capture moments of the light being on and off thus showing you what you see in the video above. Just simply google the term duty cycle and LEDs. You'll see.
This video can be best described as "Dropping some Science". Who knew that the event of a 911 going thru a high speed corner was so complex? Well done Motortrend!
WOW, remember guys when motortrend had those ridiculously long 20 minute videos, but still subscribed? now it has becoming a promising channel! really good MOTORTREND! good job!
There you go! That's the quality review we have been waiting for! It was excellent. Great production quality, very informative, and finally a longish video.
Nice work explaining the technique on how to pilot this car through a high speed corner. You guys hit a great balance of explaining how engineering and performance intersect.
What a lot of people don't understand is that when you know how to drive a 911 correctly you can obtain very high exit speeds in corners due to the rear engine set up. By having the engine in the back, the car is able to achieve a significant amount of traction in the rear wheels, add acceleration to this and you get the weight distributing itself to the back of the vehicle thus creating even more traction.
Nastiest car ever! Out running Ducatti's and he let off at 211 MPH can you imagine that it could of gone faster if he kept going and that is bone stock absolutely ridiculous!
I am finally starting to really enjoy your videos Motortrend. Keep showing these videos and the track videos and you are in for much more subscribers and fans.
I know I posted on this video when this was first posted, but I just want to say again that this is probably the coolest video you guys have ever done and I want to see more of these...
As much as I love the GTR and respect the ZR1, this is how the supersport car should be done. The driver, 3 pedals, rear-drive, and no electronic gadgets. You make the car go fast, not the other way around. The engineers provide the car, and as the driver you do the rest on the track. No wonder this trounces 99% of street legal machines on the ring. 911 forever!
Coming from a complete petrol head this video is absolutely incredible! I love all the technical data, all the deep thought behind these superb cars. More video's like this Motortrend and you will untouchable by other car blogs/magazines
I can't think of a car company that has the guts to perfect an engineering (sometimes stubbornly) as Porsche. While most supercars add cylinders and change the engine position to make the car faster but more importantly, to attract more customers, Porsche continues to stick with 6 cylinders, rear engine layout, and keeping it's ever-timeless look. Result? More race wins than any other cars in history, superb reliability, respect, and fuel-efficiency. Definitely an every day supercar.
@motortrend One of the best TH-cam vids of all time! Let me correct something though.. You said inherent design ''anomaly''. You meant inherent design ''flaw'', right??
Fantastic video. Really impressive, Mototrend. Much more interesting and enjoyable than your rather redundant First Test videos. I hope to see more cars broken down in "The Science of Speed" feature. *Fingers crossed*
I love how the narrator describes the 911's rear engine layout at an 'inherent anomaly', then continues with "If you actually know what you're doing, however ..."
@LoveTheCity123 Simply, it goes Boxster, Cayman, 911. 911 expanded (the Boxster and Cayman follow a similar, but less expansive formula): Base 911 - Carrera (S, GTS, Cabriolet (S/GTS)) AWD 911 - Carrera 4 (S, GTS, Cabriolet (S/GTS)) Turbocharged 911 - Turbo (S, Cabriolet (S)) Finally, there are the more track-based Porsche models, the GT3 and GT2. Both have RS versions, but the main difference between the two is the GT3 is naturally aspirated, whereas the GT2 is twin-turbo'd.
Instead of having all those technical data, we can summarize it as a greater weight in the rear allows the car to pivot and plant itself easily at the rear, making cornering easier.
@y571 It's twin turboed, whereas Ferrari and Lamborghini stick to naturally aspirated blocks. This also gives Porsche the advantage in the fuel economy area. Btw this is also a F6 (flat 6).
@4fifty8 Sorry about the delay. You are right, it is pretty hard to get real data for F1. I read it in a F1 Magazine a few years ago and it was more of a estimation than real data given from certain team, and it varies from car to car, from driver to drive but the article said it's in the range of 45/55 to 40/60. In F1 particularly it depends a lot from the tires since their size is defined by the rules, meaning the narrower front tires get less weight the the rears.
620 horsepower, 3,100 lbs, rear engine, 518 lb-ft of torque. At first I thought the Corvette Zr1 was weak to post a lap time 1.6 seconds slower in Nordschlief. But after I looked closer at the specs, it doesn't surprise me.
@cb7pwn electricity is moving in waves, so the more you increase the waves through the lights the less you see the lights flicker, the longer the wavelength the more you see flickers, same thing when you see people film some of their computers, you see their monitors have lines moving back and forth.
@TaLoCc I'm with you all the way on that one! The motoring press have referred to this particular model of 911 since its inception in the mid 90's as the "Widow Maker" for good reason...
@cb7pwn becasue LED lights are always flikering in daily life, so much so that the human eye does not notice. This makes them energy efficent and how the generally operate on vehilces. When a camera films an LED light source the frame rate of the camera filming and the flickering of the LEDs somtimes match, or are close to each other making it visible for the viewer to see this event take place.
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME PRESENTATION ON THE EVEN ONE OF MY NON-FAVORITE CARS!!! KEEP ON LIKE THAT AND YOU LL SEE YOURSELF AHEAD OF TOP GEAR / FIFTH GEAR!!! NO BULLSHIT..NO BLA BLA..JUST STRAIGHT FACTS,TECH SPECS AND NUMBERS!! VERY,VERY CLOSE WITH THE FLAWLESS TEST!! BRAVO GUYS!!
To all those Porsche haters: you just got served! To all those Porsche lovers, we shall continue to love Porsche, for they redefine physics and rub it in the face of those who hate the tradition of Porsche, the goal of Porsche, and the pursuit of perfection at Porsche. No matter where the engine is located, they get it! (Panamera + Cayenne = front, Carrera GT = middle, 911 = back)
This is proper Automotive journalism. Today, all you hear in this great video is summed up in the following words "It's incredibly fast". It's a bit of a shame.
Excellent video! Love the engineering!
The flicker from the camera is called a duty cycle. It is common in led lighting to conserve power, and life of the bulbs. The human eye cannot see it because the time the light is on vs off is so quickly transitioned that we simply can't tell the difference, but a device recording at a mixed frame rate will capture moments of the light being on and off thus showing you what you see in the video above. Just simply google the term duty cycle and LEDs. You'll see.
Watching this again in 2020 after all these years, some how it got more awesomeness.
GOD, how much I enjoyed watching this!!!
Music, noise, narration, excellent !
This is your best video so far. This is the type of journalism we need.
This video can be best described as "Dropping some Science". Who knew that the event of a 911 going thru a high speed corner was so complex? Well done Motortrend!
This was definitely one of the greatest segments ever. Keep this style on board for all sports cars interviews.
WOW, remember guys when motortrend had those ridiculously long 20 minute videos, but still subscribed? now it has becoming a promising channel! really good MOTORTREND! good job!
MAKE MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS MOTORTREND! This was DEFINITELY a step in the right direction for the channel
There you go! That's the quality review we have been waiting for! It was excellent. Great production quality, very informative, and finally a longish video.
Nice work explaining the technique on how to pilot this car through a high speed corner. You guys hit a great balance of explaining how engineering and performance intersect.
bravo motortrend! The most comprehensive and intelligent review ive ever seen. This should be used as a porsche commercial.
I'm amazed that this is the first motortrend video i've ever seen that didn't suck. Great job and amazing car.
What a lot of people don't understand is that when you know how to drive a 911 correctly you can obtain very high exit speeds in corners due to the rear engine set up. By having the engine in the back, the car is able to achieve a significant amount of traction in the rear wheels, add acceleration to this and you get the weight distributing itself to the back of the vehicle thus creating even more traction.
It's time to start full series of "Science of speed" !
Great work!
56 people spun at the high speed corner
More of this, please! Holy crap, this is awesome.
I need one of these in my life
Formula Games here waiting for the 2018 991.2 gt2 rs like 😰
great vid MotorTrend!! I hope this is a glimpse of what's to come from you guys! great work
This is the original widow maker!!!!
Nastiest car ever! Out running Ducatti's and he let off at 211 MPH can you imagine that it could of gone faster if he kept going and that is bone stock absolutely ridiculous!
JC B Spoiler alert: The 2018 porsche gt2 rs has just been revealed
um no its not there have been plenty of other cars before that there was the old shelbys and don't forget the porsche CGT
JC B no it's not. The mid 1970's 930 was the original Widowmaker
Please produce more of these videos Motortrend. This is interesting stuff.
I am finally starting to really enjoy your videos Motortrend. Keep showing these videos and the track videos and you are in for much more subscribers and fans.
car of my dreams
I know I posted on this video when this was first posted, but I just want to say again that this is probably the coolest video you guys have ever done and I want to see more of these...
Incredibly well produced video. Fun, exciting, and really informative about a car most people fear utterly.
As much as I love the GTR and respect the ZR1, this is how the supersport car should be done. The driver, 3 pedals, rear-drive, and no electronic gadgets. You make the car go fast, not the other way around. The engineers provide the car, and as the driver you do the rest on the track. No wonder this trounces 99% of street legal machines on the ring.
911 forever!
Thank you for this segment. The technical breakdown was superb.
Side note this experiment was really expensive because they had totaled the engine
Coming from a complete petrol head this video is absolutely incredible! I love all the technical data, all the deep thought behind these superb cars. More video's like this Motortrend and you will untouchable by other car blogs/magazines
Keep it up MotorTrend... These are the videos we want!
For the first time impressed by Motor Trend!
Hands down the best Motor Trend video I have ever watched! Keep these up and you could just about rival Top Gear. And that my friends is a compliment!
Dear Motortrend,
Bring The Science of Speed BACK!
wow Do More of these science of speed videos, truly well done !!!!!!!!
This is what a car review should be like! : ) Keep it up Motortrend!
I can't think of a car company that has the guts to perfect an engineering (sometimes stubbornly) as Porsche. While most supercars add cylinders and change the engine position to make the car faster but more importantly, to attract more customers, Porsche continues to stick with 6 cylinders, rear engine layout, and keeping it's ever-timeless look. Result? More race wins than any other cars in history, superb reliability, respect, and fuel-efficiency. Definitely an every day supercar.
Love this video Motortrend, please do some more
Everything about this video is superb! Of course...the Porsche is too. :) Great job Motor Trend!
pure quality, great job Motor Trend!
That's probably the best review I've ever watched.
That is what I'm looking for when typing the word "Test"!
Congratulations Motortrend!
in motorsports, 911s use the extra weight at the back as an advantage as it provides more grip to shoot out of the corners faster than any other cars.
Best video style video yet!
@motortrend One of the best TH-cam vids of all time! Let me correct something though.. You said inherent design ''anomaly''. You meant inherent design ''flaw'', right??
What an awesome video! Good job motortrend
This was just awesome Motortrend. Keep going !!!
I just saw one of these at my dealership and it looks amazing in person. Love that it's manual only
maxpowers3732
You can get that with a PDK
So interesting, keeping posting "The Science of Speed"!!!
Best review ever, and i've seen hundreds. Thank you so very much.
That was one of the best car review videos I have ever seen !!!
Nice job motortrend! U've made a great review in one of the greatest car! Props!!
those kind of videos are simply awesome !
Great job MT, just what we want to watch.
I have a 930 with about 450HP and its quite a hand full in a corner but this GT2 RS with 620HP is a beast.
motortrend GOOD JOB! I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF THIS VIDEO.
Wonderful video. Great job MT :D
Fantastic video. Really impressive, Mototrend. Much more interesting and enjoyable than your rather redundant First Test videos. I hope to see more cars broken down in "The Science of Speed" feature. *Fingers crossed*
Masterfully done video. Keep this up!
Great video. The GT2 RS is a monster.
Wow Motortrend. Make more videos like this.
I love how the narrator describes the 911's rear engine layout at an 'inherent anomaly', then continues with "If you actually know what you're doing, however ..."
YEEE KEEP THEM COMING MOTORTREND. I m sure everyone here wants more of this.
@LoveTheCity123 Simply, it goes Boxster, Cayman, 911.
911 expanded (the Boxster and Cayman follow a similar, but less expansive formula):
Base 911 - Carrera (S, GTS, Cabriolet (S/GTS))
AWD 911 - Carrera 4 (S, GTS, Cabriolet (S/GTS))
Turbocharged 911 - Turbo (S, Cabriolet (S))
Finally, there are the more track-based Porsche models, the GT3 and GT2. Both have RS versions, but the main difference between the two is the GT3 is naturally aspirated, whereas the GT2 is twin-turbo'd.
Motortrend, this is the type of video I like :)
Instead of having all those technical data, we can summarize it as a greater weight in the rear allows the car to pivot and plant itself easily at the rear, making cornering easier.
@y571 It's twin turboed, whereas Ferrari and Lamborghini stick to naturally aspirated blocks. This also gives Porsche the advantage in the fuel economy area. Btw this is also a F6 (flat 6).
great video guys, more of this please
@4fifty8 Sorry about the delay. You are right, it is pretty hard to get real data for F1. I read it in a F1 Magazine a few years ago and it was more of a estimation than real data given from certain team, and it varies from car to car, from driver to drive but the article said it's in the range of 45/55 to 40/60. In F1 particularly it depends a lot from the tires since their size is defined by the rules, meaning the narrower front tires get less weight the the rears.
What an insane car. Praying Porsche will make a 991 GT2
*991.2 variant, and it'll be 2018 by the time it turns up :(
+Dewwa Kakkar I just need a new GT2
+McRacerGT2 the new GT2 will arrive in 2018 :(
+Dewwa Kakkar I hope I have the money by then. And I also hpe its not a limited edition
+McRacerGT2 hope
The science of a Porsche revealed! Great work now do the same with other cars!
amazing video motortrend
620 horsepower, 3,100 lbs, rear engine, 518 lb-ft of torque. At first I thought the Corvette Zr1 was weak to post a lap time 1.6 seconds slower in Nordschlief. But after I looked closer at the specs, it doesn't surprise me.
This video confirms the fact that American reviewers are unbiased unlike Autocar.uk! Excellent analysis.
@kirk0respite the RS models are rear wheel drive, while the 911 Turbo's are the all wheel drive models
Great video guys!
Great Info and video! Well done. Thank you
@cb7pwn electricity is moving in waves, so the more you increase the waves through the lights the less you see the lights flicker, the longer the wavelength the more you see flickers, same thing when you see people film some of their computers, you see their monitors have lines moving back and forth.
Nice video!! Super interesting! Motor heads in general usually already know the specs for cars, but this was really educational! Thanks :D
Fantastic. More of these videos!
I think this is the best looking 911 yet
@JustinsSoapbox - maybe curb weight is higher, with the formula cars so light, a lil fluid could change it?
can you do a head to head with the 2012 911 gt3 rs 4.0?
i wonder which is the best!
@TaLoCc
I'm with you all the way on that one!
The motoring press have referred to this particular model of 911 since its inception in the mid 90's as the "Widow Maker" for good reason...
Finally Motortrend did something interesting !
GREAT video. keep it up!
@cb7pwn becasue LED lights are always flikering in daily life, so much so that the human eye does not notice. This makes them energy efficent and how the generally operate on vehilces. When a camera films an LED light source the frame rate of the camera filming and the flickering of the LEDs somtimes match, or are close to each other making it visible for the viewer to see this event take place.
very cool, please more of this.
Wow, nice vid. More of these.
Very informative motor trend!
this was a EPICLY GOOD VIDEO!
What an amazing video!
ABSOLUTELY AWESOME PRESENTATION ON THE EVEN ONE OF MY NON-FAVORITE CARS!!! KEEP ON LIKE THAT AND YOU LL SEE YOURSELF AHEAD OF TOP GEAR / FIFTH GEAR!!! NO BULLSHIT..NO BLA BLA..JUST STRAIGHT FACTS,TECH SPECS AND NUMBERS!! VERY,VERY CLOSE WITH THE FLAWLESS TEST!! BRAVO GUYS!!
@lamborghiniFTW199
its a safety feature, when brakes are fully depressed, hazard lights blink.
To all those Porsche haters: you just got served! To all those Porsche lovers, we shall continue to love Porsche, for they redefine physics and rub it in the face of those who hate the tradition of Porsche, the goal of Porsche, and the pursuit of perfection at Porsche. No matter where the engine is located, they get it! (Panamera + Cayenne = front, Carrera GT = middle, 911 = back)
awesome!!! please make more videos like this!!
really enjoyed the video
This is what I call a review !
Keep on going...
Amazing video!
pretty cool video, thanks guys