It's sure easier drinking coffee and watching you work on these projects than when I do it, and I don't get nearly as dirty. Thanks for the videos, I've learned a lot watching them.
One of the absolute best cleaners I've used for fuel funk is lacquer thinner. A gallon can is not very expensive, and a little goes a long way. The downside is it is hellish on some plastics and it will eat up paint. (On the plus side, if you smell it long enough you can actually talk to the engine.)
I've been working off a 5 gal. pail of Super Agitene for about ten years. Was around $90 but now is like $180. In a pump sprayer bottle, most oil, grease and mixtures roll right off of chain saws. It's safe on plastics and it also leaves a microscopic level of lanolin behind, to give some rust protection on steel parts. It's a very mild, ultra refined solvent with also low odor.
@@Nudnik1 Some acetone is found in the human body. When the liver breaks down fats for energy, some acetone is produced. Breath that smells like acetone can be a symptom of diabetes.
I have one of these! The generator is on a shelf in my basement and the engine is in a 50" long, radio-controlled model boat, called "White Heat"; that I built from plans that were in an old Popular Mechanics magazine. When I first got this engine/generator, I fired it up, plugged in my incandescent shop light, and the engine bogged right down! It served me much better in White Heat which I still have with me today but have not run it in years. Back then, this engine was even used in a few model radio-controlled helicopters. Now, there are much better engines of course; my engine of choice now is the weed whacker engines expecially the ones with an automatic clutch. Good to know that carburetor kits are available too. BTW, my O&R engine has the original air cleaner! Thanks for the video and the memories. Karl
@@scrappy7571 Popular mechanics had lots of interesting things you could build, I built many things from there plans, in my first shop about ever thing even my air compressor was from there plans.
Two problems with Olsen Rice gas engines: 1) The transfer ports in the cylinders were drilled AFTER the cylinder was screwed down on to its cushy gasket. Half the time you unscrew the spark plug the cylinder loosens on its threads and has to be retightened. Then the transfers arent lined up smooth anymore. They will start and idle but high rpm power is way way way down. It gets to where you have to make shim-gaskets out of paper or shim-metal so the cylinder is both I) Tight and II) transfers exactly straight-as-drilled. 2) The diaphragm carburetors had a rocker arm transmits "in" motion (due to venturi suction) of the diaphragm into "up" motion of the metering needle. THE ROCKER WAS MADE OUT OF RUBBER. Fat chance you're going to get one of those to work for very long. I've A) Fabbed a new rocker out of aluminum or brass and, B) Adapted a tiny Walbro WA carburetor to the OR engine.
@@66Grudge They made good model airplane engines but they never caught on in the power equipment world. I kept one running for about 8 years for a deaf guy had an O&R bicycle-motorizing kit on the front wheel of an old Schwinn. Cannibalized couple hedge trimmers, couple chainsaws and a genset to do it. I never saw one with a factory metal rocker in the carb like the one in this video. I fabbed a half dozen rockers in my time four out of aluminum and two out of brass. The deaf guy's bicylcle motor eventually got a Walbro WA or WT adapted to it.
@@AnthonyDiSano The Puppet Ronnie Fooking Raygun granted China "Most Favored Nation" status in 1980 and that was the beginning of the end of our industrial base. The one super elite international banking family at the very top picked him out as a washed up actor they could groom, put him in office - and then turn him traitor, slow-kill our economy, and get us in wars on behalf of a certain middle eastern nation. I can prove it all by the way.
I have a big collection of O&R stuff..... generator, chain saw, drill, a hedge trimmer and a couple model airplane engines. The Tiny Tiger I have is NOS in the box. I did run it once. It's a little screamer. I have video of it running on my TH-cam channel. I think they're governed for 120 volt at 6800 rpm. I have a ton of parts too. My grandpa's neighbor was an O&R dealer back in the day. Back in the mid 80's I bought everything he had left. There super cool little engines that were good runners, but very loud.
As an old mechanic I love how Taryl went through the problems, you could easily decide this unit has too many issues to be worth while, it's the order he took that made the journey successful, How can you not like Taryl 🍻
@@imjimimack The first time I found him I kind of felt the same way, But if your a mechanic or mechanically inclined and are into small engine projects you'll soon learn Taryl is a very knowledgeable mechanic, and even pretty funny, I was a GM mechanic with certified and ase certifications, I dont find too many channels to be very competent, Taryl's the bomb, "There's yer dinner"
Before I started watching Taryl , I thought a hand full of tools and a little patience would fix small engines, now I know it takes a shop full of tools and years of experience plus a bucket full of acting ability and creative mind. Great work Taryl
I have learned so much watching this channel over the yrs .this is awesome testament that older engines can still run if you know what you're doing, I love it. Anyway god bless and stay safe
First time I have watched your channel, will not be the last. Entertaining and informative, have worked on motor cycles and small engines all my life, over 80 YEARS OLD NOW, never seen such a small all in one generator. Would have loved to have had that one
That was a cool video! I'd heard of Ohlsson and Rice model airplane engines from the 30's, 40's, or 50's, but didn't know they made Tiny Tigers!! I'll bet cell phones were really rare back then. That was sure enough a wild carbertrator!
_"Cell phones"_ rare? Almost every airplane had one, they're just a two way radio, with some fancy codes built in now that they're "digital." Like two machines talking to each other in their own morse code, just really fast
@@user-ut9ln4vd5m They was analog at first, went digital few years ago, around 1960 the new York times predicted them and described how they would work, the debate then was not if it was possible to build a cell phone. But if the public would use them. Around 1975 we was using fm radios in our trucks. Only thing changed, was they installed switch device which reacted to number dialed and connected the fm signal to another radio,and called it a mobile phone. On my first phone you needed to be real careful where you made a call,or received a call, because of roaming charges, was easy to get a thousand dollar phone bill. First carry around phone i remember was late 80s early 90s. But i am sure they had them before that.
I am a retired person and I pick to repair stuff as a hobby just to keep me busy and have to thanks Taryl for his teaching in fixing things with patience that maybe nobody else wants to fix but he gets into it and when he gets happy I also get happy alongside, thanks Taryl keep it up
Great Video Taryl. Your knowledge and years of experience working on everything from weedwhackers to generators and everything in-between is absolutely invaluable. I always look forward to your newest video. They are priceless.
You called it a Rotor , it's a Stator. The Rotor it the part that spins, Its a two pole rotor so it should be 3600 RPM (60Hz) if it was a four pole then it would spin at 1800 RPM, that's my nickel. Good job Taryl !
Fascinating video as usual, and full of great info, even though I've never seen one of these engine generator combos. TD is a great trouble shooter. The opening of the video where the guy wades through empty beer cans to get out of his trailer is funny.
Another job WELL done sir! How aggravated were you when you realized that you had to take the carbentrator back apart to put the screen in? lol Love your work,
LOVE IT ! I've messed with mechanicals for over 50yrs. I found this video very interesting, amusing too, and watched nearly all of it. An interesting little bit of kit. Well done Taryl.
Was going to say just connect the voltage meter on it for testing instead of that light - but you got it goin eventually - great work Taryl!!! Good job per usual!!! :)
I also had a Honda 40 watt generator. It was a tiny 4 stroke and had an automatic choke. Was really cute and worked great. I ended up trading it off for something back in the day.
Mr. Dactyl.....can;t believe the sung lyric from Mr. Zimmerman you snuck in. Brass Rod indeed!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Please tell your talented family I wish yall all a very Merry CHRISTmas!!!!! Sincerely Larry Croft
Cool project. O&R made model airplane engines back in the day with tiny spark plugs instead of glow plugs. That generator sounds like some of my plane engines!
I think I almost learned as much from this as I did from Briggs school in the 90's. That little unit would be super useful when dealing with equipment in the field.
This made my week. I learned a new word, carbatrator ♥ I liked the spot on diagnosis with how there was SO MUCH wrong with this thing. The only thing I would have finished with, would be to use that nice FLUKE meter in the frequency mode to make sure that the SET RPM's are at 60hz, and the voltage in the appropriate 110 to 120 range. The cool thing about generators is they are true sine wave so it's not the nasty square wave they try to sell as good as.
Very nice video, as usual, Taryl. Concerning the RPM, I would use the multimeter in 115V slots and set the engine speed according the correct voltage value. Greetings from Czech small engine shop. Great job!
The generator has a two pole winding, 3600 rpm delivers 60 hz. For many appliances, this may be more important than voltage. Now, if you had to run a motor that stalls (eg pump) on start, maybe you could soft start it by starting at half generator / alternator speed & then increasing freq to 60hz after initial start.. just a thought. I was thinking it might be an ideal fit for an off grid hunting or fishing cabin to recharge a LiFePo4 based system.. Light enough to pack in & out, a 4 hour run would fully recharge a 100ah battery. Depending on how frugal the load, it might support a system for several days between recharges...
Seems as though Taryl is easier to follow & understand what's happening with the machine that he is working with, I think that's because he doesn't throw a lot of unnecessary talk (jargin) like so many do to try and make themselves Feel like they're "Knowledgeable " I just wish that he could help me with the adjustment on the valves of my lawn tractor right now. But one can't be everywhere at once. 2thumbs up Brother.
I use the striking strip from a book of matches to clean contacts. (primarily motor contactors) The powdered glass is a nice soft, fine abrasive, and the red phosphorous enhances/replenishes the anti-weld property of the contact alloy.
Great video Taryl. When you assembled the carburetor though I noticed the little screen was still sitting with the old parts. Hopefully it was put back in while off camera. 😊
Hy Taryl, absolutely great video my friend. I use Aspen 2 all the time in all my two stroke equipment and I also use it in all two stroke equipment that I fix for other people and also recommend it. Keep up the great work my friend, I enjoy watching your videos
I had an automotive shop teacher that showed us how you could use a matchbook to do a emergency cold timing of an engine. Back in the day before things got so much more complex.
This guy is one of the best old school mechanics I've ever seen. But instead of using a appliance I use a voltage meter to set the rpm to get the right output. On a small generator the spark plug other octane of fuel can alter your output.
O&R was popular for their model airplane and car engines which are highly collectable as well. Btw, if you remove the cylinder head, you'll see exhaust slots sort of like an old COX .049 model airplane engine.
That little hog he rode in on that was my first mini bike same color and everything ...all my friends had XR75 I had to ride that thing .. but it wasn't much longer before I got me a new for '78 DS 125 zuki and I was the king 👑 yhaaaa boy !!
@@peterrobinson270 I had a '69 CL70H 4-speed manual I put nobby tires on that thing and I had tons of fun with it on the trails .. that little motor is much more lively running through a four-speed standard then it is with that three speed automatic 👍
Hey Taryl, have you heard of compression whistles? They're kind of cool and useful, you get used to the sound they make with various engines and they're a small little deal that is about the size of a spark plug. You just thread it in and turn it over-even with a wrench-and you get used to the sound of good or low compression. Also if your engine is stuck you can fill the cylinder completely full with oil, then you modify a compression whistle with a grease zerk fitting and can pump in thousands of psi to free the engine. Just the tip, only the tip, and just for a minute...
@@alexstromberg7696 They're good to have around if you have an engine that has sat a long time and you don't want to just start spinning it over. What I mean is that it may have fine rust or animal nests in the carb/intake... in that situation you can just slowly turn the engine with the pull starter or a wrench and know immediately if there's compression within one rotation. You then can. proceed to adding oil to cylinder, cleaning out intake path and carb and the engine. Then you do a compression test and will get a more accurate read without pulling a bunch of garbage into the engine. It's also useful because you can unstick a stuck engine with it by modifying with a zerk grease fitting then fill the cylinder with oil, it's worked for me 3 times. Also if you're thinking a cylinder is dead or weak it's way quicker than hooking up a compression tester, especially if there's multiple cylinders.
Remind me of the old air compressor kits they used to sale to go into spark plug holes to air up your tires. And the old 120 volt dc kit that mounted under your dash to run 120 volt ac dc tools off your alternator in you car. They worked great for ac dc tools and incandescent light bulbs. You can take any alternator with ext regulator and replace voltage regulator with a old type heater switch and regulate voltage and reach 120 volt easy. A old 35 amp alternator gives you little over 3 amp 120 dc. With generator unhook voltage regulator voltage is controlled by rpm. A old cat generator with rpm controlling voltage will burn small welding rods all day long or if left on 1/2 water pipe to melt ice will need to be watched so pipe dont over heat.
The crossover tube is to prevent air lock. Necessary for such a tank design where air can get trapped and keep the tank from filling or draining properly i.e. without it you wouldn't be able to fill the pick-up tube side of the tank as trapped air would prevent you from filling that side with fuel. Also the gas mix ratio, based on those instructions, is 24:1
Thats right. In the 2000s I owned a `87 VW T3. Someday i lost gas. The tank had an anti air lock pipe, too, made of pvc. When the car gets old it shrinks and break the plastic knee which was connectet to the tank - horrible to change. I fixed it by mounting a new original knee and a pvc garden hose and clamps - it worked.
Hey Taryl . I have a Honda e40 . It has a 17cc 4 stroke engine and only puts out 40 watts . Much smaller than that unit ! Mine was built in 1964 , you should find one to look at !
You can still get these "Bottle" generators. Peter White Cycles in Massachusetts has really nice ones from Germany. Never need to worry about dead batteries on you bike light, and unlike the cheap ones from the Far East, the German ones just LAST.
Taryl, I'd love to see you make a farmer's battery charger from a pressure washer engine from a unit with a bad pump and a used alternator. A 72 amp with built-in regulator should do well, but smaller is ok, and bigger might not do well. A 6" pulley is needed for the engine to get the alternator up to speed. You might need to turn the engine sideways and keep the belt short. The rest should be easy to figure out.
I just made one out of a 5hp horizontal shaft B&S and a Delco 10si, used a 1/2" x 24'" belt, fashioned an adjustable spring belt tensioner. using a 3.5" pulley on the motor. Direct drive would be better with LoveJoy coupling, the Delco shaft is metric.
@@sierraromeo direct drive love joy will not give the rpm for the alternator. 5hp will use 2 delco 10si together. but for home made charger find a old generator, they can provide consent out put, where alternator can provide max out put for only a few min. Voltage on generator can be controlled by consent speed.
@@cliffclark6441 direct drive (coupling or 1 to 1 belt will give you 50 amps at 3600. My apps only require 20amps, so I run my Briggs at 1800 most of the time, to power my wood boiler, and a internet relay link during low sunlight situations.
@@sierraromeo Tell me the alternator you are using and i will look up rpm amp out put. Never heard of any alternator putting out 50 amps at 3600, that's below idle speed alternator turns on any car, It needs to reach around 10,000 rpm. Reason you got to be careful which alternator you use to replace generator on tractors and diesel engines, some will not spin fast enough to ever excite alternator. I must run my tractor full throttle for a minute before the alternator will start charging. Converting generators to alternators speed of alternator was a problem we had to deal with for years. Like converting points to electron ign. Points will fire at any rpm, some older motors had to low cranking speed for electron ign. If you only need 20 amps for your application , You only need about 2 hp total engine out put to reach 13.5 volts. Even a 1/4 hp electric motor can turn alternator if volt out put is low, around 8 volt it will stall around 9 volts volt out put determiner input hp needed not amps. Speed needed to create magnetic field in alternator is why alternator is very sensitive to speed. It is a simple 3 phase motor using diode to create dc currant. It is not a true dc generator. A older delco 35 amp alternator like gm used for years, would be idea for your application. turn over 8,000 rpm it would take least amount of hp to operate. The old 35 amp alternator also will put out electric at lowest speed of any alternator i have ever used. Once brought up to speed to energize it puts out more amps at lower speed than any modern alternator. Higher max out put of alternator higher speed it needs to turn to begin charging.
There is nothing more entertaining than watching your videos plus you learn a lot about stuff. You should start a school on how to repair small engines,I am so impressed with your knowledge and experience. Plus you are so friggin funny.
The reason you don't sand with emery paper, I was told, was because the grit particles can detach and embed in the metal and you end up with like two bits of sand paper rubbing against each other
A little more elaboration: Emery cloth contains varying amounts of carbon. This carbon is harder than the contact metal and will become embedded in the surface of the contacts. The carbon will do two things. One, there's the chance that it will make the contact area resistive. This causes a weak spark and arcing at the points. Two, because of the resistance and the arcing, the points will burn quicker. Garnet and flint papers have less carbon, but they can still embed particles. My dad would use a piece of coarse paper, like a paper bag, or if they were really bad, an ignition file.
When you have a diaphragm that needs replacing and there is no source, I have had luck at getting them softened so that they are pliable enough to operated properly, by soaking the diaphragm in brake fluid. I don't know how this works, but it does. When I was a kid in the 50s, O&R engines, were the gold standard for large model aircraft. I remember one model Lancaster bomber, that had 4 O&R 60cc engines and radio control. For us model builders, it was like seeing a unicorn. Beautiful little motors. Great, informative video.
When I was told not to use sandpaper on points, I was told not to use "silicone oxide" paper. The silicone will act as an insulator if a chunk gets left in and crushed up, as where aluminum oxide will powder up and fall off when crushed. Same goes for flame sensors on furnaces, the silicone oxide residue will melt into glass, the aluminum oxide paper grit will just burn up. If the paper says "waterproof" which almost all emery cloth is, it's going to be metal oxide based.
I was taught a similar concept about material impregnating in the contact pads. The impregnated material can cause high non conductive spots that lead to arcing and pad burn out. I was taught to use a fine contact file in training for chainsaw repair (Stihl) and the electrical industry ( mechanical contractor and relays). Right or wrong? Who knows it is what was taught at the time. Every time I am somewhere and see a new points file I get one.
@@jeremymanley5256 Agree, any type of sand paper is going to leave contaminants embedded in the contact material. File is whats best to clean the contact surface. But it ain't the space shuttle.
That is one wicked cute engine. Love all the quality Aluminum.. I Wish that i could find any info online of my small Fuji/Subaru inverter Generator with the mechanically throttled 2-stroke Robin engine. You have got to see how much power that thing has to believe it. Plus it puts out Major 12 or 24v power... like 80amps. It's the size of a milk crate, weighs 25lbs and will run my table saw or 15a skill saw cutting 2x4s. I have to see if i can get mine going... hasn't run in a while.. Thanks for this video 📹 👍 ~
Less than a year ago, I had a couple of surgeons do the same basic thing to one of my cardiac arteries! Worked out great. Probably a little more expensive, though. I don't remember any Lizard Cam involved.
Did your surgeons also get you to reevaluate the fuel you were putting through your carb so you wouldn't be back? Good to see you're still here...don't muck it up...
I had several of those Tiny Tigers 20 years ago. Both O&R and Tiny Tiger seemed to have different CA addresses when those were built during their production span. One had a very big cast aluminum muffler that helped a little bit but it still sounded like a deranged weed wacker. I think one was made by GADCO Electra but I forget who made the others I had and am not sure which company owned them first. That unit is made before 1964 because the O&R address has a two digit zone code they stopped in 1963 when they switched to zip codes. Mine all needed carb diaphragms and at the time Bobs Small Engine Service in IA was the only place selling the thin rubber membrane that fit them. Replaced it and they all ran fine.
As the name suggests alternating current flows both ways. So a LED will lite on one side of the cycle. What you have to do is put diodes going both ways so the reverse polarity doesn't kill the LED. It doesn't have to be an LED but it can be. You also need a dropper circuit and maybe even a current limiting resistor too. Because LEDs do not like too much voltage applied to them.
Well Taryl, I am not with you, at the Aspen themathik... I do quit the same thing as you do here in Germany, little engine repairs. Aspen does eat especially old rubbers, like diaphrams, which ran always with standart fuel... I have lots of Chainsaws and Trimmers, which ran perfect until Aspen was used
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It's sure easier drinking coffee and watching you work on these projects than when I do it, and I don't get nearly as dirty. Thanks for the videos, I've learned a lot watching them.
yep, it is easier to wash doughnut jelly off the fingers than grease, love this channel!!!
Crap. I STILL get dirty!
One of the absolute best cleaners I've used for fuel funk is lacquer thinner. A gallon can is not very expensive, and a little goes a long way. The downside is it is hellish on some plastics and it will eat up paint. (On the plus side, if you smell it long enough you can actually talk to the engine.)
True I use laquer thinner to clean clogged carbs .
Just be careful on plastic parts .
Much better than any gumout etc
If you smell it long enough, your liver will also talk to you.
I've been working off a 5 gal. pail of Super Agitene for about ten years. Was around $90 but now is like $180. In a pump sprayer bottle, most oil, grease and mixtures roll right off of chain saws. It's safe on plastics and it also leaves a microscopic level of lanolin behind, to give some rust protection on steel parts. It's a very mild, ultra refined solvent with also low odor.
@@nheng6913 Acetone I believe is laquer thinner. Nail salon girls breath it for years ..
@@Nudnik1 Some acetone is found in the human body. When the liver breaks down fats for energy, some acetone is produced. Breath that smells like acetone can be a symptom of diabetes.
I love that Taryl answer the question in the comments before they are asked, and he has a special voice for them
I have one of these! The generator is on a shelf in my basement and the engine is in a 50" long, radio-controlled model boat, called "White Heat"; that I built from plans that were in an old Popular Mechanics magazine. When I first got this engine/generator, I fired it up, plugged in my incandescent shop light, and the engine bogged right down! It served me much better in White Heat which I still have with me today but have not run it in years. Back then, this engine was even used in a few model radio-controlled helicopters. Now, there are much better engines of course; my engine of choice now is the weed whacker engines expecially the ones with an automatic clutch. Good to know that carburetor kits are available too. BTW, my O&R engine has the original air cleaner! Thanks for the video and the memories. Karl
I remember popular mechanics had a plans for a micro mini bike too that used this engine. I used to read PM cover to cover when I was in grade school.
@@scrappy7571 Popular mechanics had lots of interesting things you could build, I built many things from there plans, in my first shop about ever thing even my air compressor was from there plans.
Interesting, guys just build stuff. Women talk about it.
Do you not just love it when the manufacturer actually puts the point and spark plug gaps on the machine!
Two problems with Olsen Rice gas engines:
1) The transfer ports in the cylinders were drilled AFTER the cylinder was screwed down on to its cushy gasket. Half the time you unscrew the spark plug the cylinder loosens on its threads and has to be retightened. Then the transfers arent lined up smooth anymore. They will start and idle but high rpm power is way way way down. It gets to where you have to make shim-gaskets out of paper or shim-metal so the cylinder is both I) Tight and II) transfers exactly straight-as-drilled.
2) The diaphragm carburetors had a rocker arm transmits "in" motion (due to venturi suction) of the diaphragm into "up" motion of the metering needle. THE ROCKER WAS MADE OUT OF RUBBER. Fat chance you're going to get one of those to work for very long. I've A) Fabbed a new rocker out of aluminum or brass and, B) Adapted a tiny Walbro WA carburetor to the OR engine.
First time hearing of that brand myself. I'm tickled seeing all American made! Don't see the much anymore.
@@66Grudge They made good model airplane engines but they never caught on in the power equipment world.
I kept one running for about 8 years for a deaf guy had an O&R bicycle-motorizing kit on the front wheel of an old Schwinn.
Cannibalized couple hedge trimmers, couple chainsaws and a genset to do it.
I never saw one with a factory metal rocker in the carb like the one in this video. I fabbed a half dozen rockers in my time four out of aluminum and two out of brass.
The deaf guy's bicylcle motor eventually got a Walbro WA or WT adapted to it.
@@66Grudge Blame NAFTA.
Ohlsson…
@@AnthonyDiSano The Puppet Ronnie Fooking Raygun granted China "Most Favored Nation" status in 1980 and that was the beginning of the end of our industrial base. The one super elite international banking family at the very top picked him out as a washed up actor they could groom, put him in office - and then turn him traitor, slow-kill our economy, and get us in wars on behalf of a certain middle eastern nation. I can prove it all by the way.
I have a big collection of O&R stuff..... generator, chain saw, drill, a hedge trimmer and a couple model airplane engines. The Tiny Tiger I have is NOS in the box. I did run it once. It's a little screamer. I have video of it running on my TH-cam channel. I think they're governed for 120 volt at 6800 rpm. I have a ton of parts too. My grandpa's neighbor was an O&R dealer back in the day. Back in the mid 80's I bought everything he had left. There super cool little engines that were good runners, but very loud.
Dad had one for camping in Davis Mountains
Still in shop
This has been the best project and video yet, I love seeing that old stuff coming back to life. That was a great project love it.
As an old mechanic I love how Taryl went through the problems, you could easily decide this unit has too many issues to be worth while, it's the order he took that made the journey successful, How can you not like Taryl 🍻
He needs content for TH-cam. If you have something unique, he'll probably fix it for free just to have content.
I don't who this guy is, but the teeth and stupid names for stuff are just dumb, NOT entertaining.
@@imjimimack to you. To a lot of people he is.
@@imjimimack The first time I found him I kind of felt the same way, But if your a mechanic or mechanically inclined and are into small engine projects you'll soon learn Taryl is a very knowledgeable mechanic,
and even pretty funny, I was a GM mechanic with certified and ase certifications, I dont find too many channels to be very competent, Taryl's the bomb,
"There's yer dinner"
Because he calls zeros oooos, one's an oval, one's a number, one's a circle, one's a letter
Before I started watching Taryl , I thought a hand full of tools and a little patience would fix small engines, now I know it takes a shop full of tools and years of experience plus a bucket full of acting ability and creative mind. Great work Taryl
Pretty interesting video. Didn't realize they even had such a small generator back then. You even managed to make it live again!!!
You are one fine Mechanic!!!!!
I have learned so much watching this channel over the yrs .this is awesome testament that older engines can still run if you know what you're doing, I love it. Anyway god bless and stay safe
Good save fixing that wiring. A lot of work to bring that little tiger back.
Great video, it's cool to see this small generator comes back to life.
I just love little gadgets and things like these, it's always so fun to watch them be restored! Well done taryl and keep up the amazing work!
First time I have watched your channel, will not be the last. Entertaining and informative, have worked on motor cycles and small engines all my life, over 80 YEARS OLD NOW, never seen such a small all in one generator. Would have loved to have had that one
That was a cool video! I'd heard of Ohlsson and Rice model airplane engines from the 30's, 40's, or 50's, but didn't know they made Tiny Tigers!! I'll bet cell phones were really rare back then. That was sure enough a wild carbertrator!
_"Cell phones"_ rare? Almost every airplane had one, they're just a two way radio, with some fancy codes built in now that they're "digital." Like two machines talking to each other in their own morse code, just really fast
@@user-ut9ln4vd5m They was analog at first, went digital few years ago, around 1960 the new York times predicted them and described how they would work, the debate then was not if it was possible to build a cell phone. But if the public would use them. Around 1975 we was using fm radios in our trucks. Only thing changed, was they installed switch device which reacted to number dialed and connected the fm signal to another radio,and called it a mobile phone. On my first phone you needed to be real careful where you made a call,or received a call, because of roaming charges, was easy to get a thousand dollar phone bill. First carry around phone i remember was late 80s early 90s. But i am sure they had them before that.
I am a retired person and I pick to repair stuff as a hobby just to keep me busy and have to thanks Taryl for his teaching in fixing things with patience that maybe nobody else wants to fix but he gets into it and when he gets happy I also get happy alongside, thanks Taryl keep it up
Great Video Taryl. Your knowledge and years of experience working on everything from weedwhackers to generators and everything in-between is absolutely invaluable. I always look forward to your newest video. They are priceless.
Nice Job Taryl, you look dapper in that beautiful Christmas sweater too.
You called it a Rotor , it's a Stator. The Rotor it the part that spins, Its a two pole rotor so it should be 3600 RPM (60Hz) if it was a four pole then it would spin at 1800 RPM, that's my nickel. Good job Taryl !
Awesome video Tarly, your knowledge and patience is inspiring.
Fascinating video as usual, and full of great info, even though I've never seen one of these engine generator combos. TD is a great trouble shooter. The opening of the video where the guy wades through empty beer cans to get out of his trailer is funny.
That reminded me of myself thirty years ago😅
Done only as Tarly can do it another thrilling success!
Another great video Taryl! Keep them coming, your videos are better than anything on tv to day.
Another job WELL done sir! How aggravated were you when you realized that you had to take the carbentrator back apart to put the screen in? lol
Love your work,
LOVE IT ! I've messed with mechanicals for over 50yrs. I found this video very interesting, amusing too, and watched nearly all of it. An interesting little bit of kit. Well done Taryl.
Interesting little unit, great job on it too, especially repairing those wires👍
Was going to say just connect the voltage meter on it for testing instead of that light - but you got it goin eventually - great work Taryl!!! Good job per usual!!! :)
Very impressed by your patience and persistence, it reminds me to never give up!
It wouldn’t be a Taryl video without a commercial every three minutes!!
I remember when we didn’t have any
interruptions🤨
ZERO ads ...( using adblockers ) ... adblock & uBlock origin ... on a PC
@@tsvandyke thank you
The aspin fuel is great stuff.. with a shelf life of 2 years ..
I also had a Honda 40 watt generator. It was a tiny 4 stroke and had an automatic choke. Was really cute and worked great. I ended up trading it off for something back in the day.
I believe you meant 400 watt!
Holy Buckets is a good actor! He should try out for movie roles.
Awesome video Taryl keep them engines alive!
Mr. Dactyl.....can;t believe the sung lyric from Mr. Zimmerman you snuck in. Brass Rod indeed!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Please tell your talented family I wish yall all a very Merry CHRISTmas!!!!! Sincerely Larry Croft
The work that you do is great, but the arguments that you have with yourself is priceless! LoL Keep it up Mr. Taryl
One of your better videos. Enjoyed it very much. Kudos to you and yours.
Pleasure watching you man. Learn 10 new things every time. My sausage fingers fix watches too. You are appreciated.
Cool project. O&R made model airplane engines back in the day with tiny spark plugs instead of glow plugs. That generator sounds like some of my plane engines!
I had an O&R powered model A that was given to me by my uncle when he went into the service. That's what got me hooked on small engines!
@@RogerSegerJrI have a Maverick chain saw that has that engine on it,parts aren't easy to find
I think I almost learned as much from this as I did from Briggs school in the 90's. That little unit would be super useful when dealing with equipment in the field.
This was a cool one.awesome job as always!
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!
Thank you, I remember those little guy's from years ago.
This made my week. I learned a new word, carbatrator ♥ I liked the spot on diagnosis with how there was SO MUCH wrong with this thing. The only thing I would have finished with, would be to use that nice FLUKE meter in the frequency mode to make sure that the SET RPM's are at 60hz, and the voltage in the appropriate 110 to 120 range. The cool thing about generators is they are true sine wave so it's not the nasty square wave they try to sell as good as.
Nice job bringing back the O&R generator… sweet!!
Well done! I expected that Magnifier bulb to blow up when you revved it, haha!
My thoughts exactly, he should put volt meter to it to check for over powering the ladies cell phone charger.
@@ronzek3207 I expect that he did that but did not include it in the video. Not sure.
I spit my coffee when you started singing!!! I love you Taryl. Can't wait to wear my Christmas shirt, it's on its way.
Very nice video, as usual, Taryl. Concerning the RPM, I would use the multimeter in 115V slots and set the engine speed according the correct voltage value. Greetings from Czech small engine shop. Great job!
Frequency is more important. 3600 on that little Engine should be about 60Hz..
@@m9ovich785 Because of permissible voltage range - YES, the frequency is more important.
60 Hz friend
The generator has a two pole winding, 3600 rpm delivers 60 hz. For many appliances, this may be more important than voltage.
Now, if you had to run a motor that stalls (eg pump) on start, maybe you could soft start it by starting at half generator / alternator speed & then increasing freq to 60hz after initial start.. just a thought.
I was thinking it might be an ideal fit for an off grid hunting or fishing cabin to recharge a LiFePo4 based system.. Light enough to pack in & out, a 4 hour run would fully recharge a 100ah battery. Depending on how frugal the load, it might support a system for several days between recharges...
Taryl, a K&N type breather filter might be the finishing touch for that generator.
Taryl ! Another great resto job done well !
I can’t believe how vigorously you were pulling that starter. The instructions were very clear. 😂
It actually said viciously not vigorously if you wind the vid back.
Seems as though Taryl is easier to follow & understand what's happening with the machine that he is working with, I think that's because he doesn't throw a lot of unnecessary talk (jargin) like so many do to try and make themselves
Feel like they're
"Knowledgeable " I just wish that he could help me with the adjustment on the valves of my lawn tractor right now. But one can't be everywhere at once. 2thumbs up
Brother.
Awesome as always Taryl!
One day I'll come down to see you from Quebec Canada !
I use the striking strip from a book of matches to clean contacts. (primarily motor contactors) The powdered glass is a nice soft, fine abrasive, and the red phosphorous enhances/replenishes the anti-weld property of the contact alloy.
Great video Taryl. When you assembled the carburetor though I noticed the little screen was still sitting with the old parts. Hopefully it was put back in while off camera. 😊
That's a cool little generator!
I love it when Taryl says "I know some of you guys are going to say ........ ,(with a high pitch voice) In the comment section 😆.
Thank you for your videos .
Thats a great unusual generator.Great video as all ways Taryl.Heres your dinner.
Hy Taryl, absolutely great video my friend. I use Aspen 2 all the time in all my two stroke equipment and I also use it in all two stroke equipment that I fix for other people and also recommend it. Keep up the great work my friend, I enjoy watching your videos
You are awesome,,patience of Jobe, lots of hands on experience. Thanks for your videos
I'm 74 and still learning 😁
Taryl, in the welding shop I worked in, we were told that the striker on a pack of matches made a good makeshift points file.
I had an automotive shop teacher that showed us how you could use a matchbook to do a emergency cold timing of an engine. Back in the day before things got so much more complex.
Spectacular job.!! I watched this with baited breath.
Awesome video, you are the man!!
You are the best entertainer online. Love your videos. Oh, and very informative as well.
This guy is one of the best old school mechanics I've ever seen. But instead of using a appliance I use a voltage meter to set the rpm to get the right output. On a small generator the spark plug other octane of fuel can alter your output.
Yep. Set the rpm's to give an output of 125 volts max at full throttle when warmed up.
Sweet - well deserved dance time. You're a master mechanic. When it comes to dancing not so much.
O&R was popular for their model airplane and car engines which are highly collectable as well. Btw, if you remove the cylinder head, you'll see exhaust slots sort of like an old COX .049 model airplane engine.
I did not know it would be that big 😂
The wires with insulation. You guys are great.
That little hog he rode in on that was my first mini bike same color and everything ...all my friends had XR75 I had to ride that thing .. but it wasn't much longer before I got me a new for '78 DS 125 zuki and I was the king 👑 yhaaaa boy !!
I would love to have that bike now, they sell for 5 prices now if you find one in decent condition,
I had the same - CT70H (4-speed manual)
@@peterrobinson270 I had a '69 CL70H 4-speed manual I put nobby tires on that thing and I had tons of fun with it on the trails .. that little motor is much more lively running through a four-speed standard then it is with that three speed automatic 👍
Whoooooooo Boy Lordy
@ Taryl, good to see another small engine guy that is not scared to tackle electrical problems, kudos brother!!!😎👍
Hey Taryl, have you heard of compression whistles? They're kind of cool and useful, you get used to the sound they make with various engines and they're a small little deal that is about the size of a spark plug. You just thread it in and turn it over-even with a wrench-and you get used to the sound of good or low compression. Also if your engine is stuck you can fill the cylinder completely full with oil, then you modify a compression whistle with a grease zerk fitting and can pump in thousands of psi to free the engine. Just the tip, only the tip, and just for a minute...
Or just use a compression tester.
They're not reliable
@@alexstromberg7696 They're good to have around if you have an engine that has sat a long time and you don't want to just start spinning it over. What I mean is that it may have fine rust or animal nests in the carb/intake... in that situation you can just slowly turn the engine with the pull starter or a wrench and know immediately if there's compression within one rotation. You then can. proceed to adding oil to cylinder, cleaning out intake path and carb and the engine. Then you do a compression test and will get a more accurate read without pulling a bunch of garbage into the engine. It's also useful because you can unstick a stuck engine with it by modifying with a zerk grease fitting then fill the cylinder with oil, it's worked for me 3 times. Also if you're thinking a cylinder is dead or weak it's way quicker than hooking up a compression tester, especially if there's multiple cylinders.
@@staind288 Have you used one or just guessing?
Remind me of the old air compressor kits they used to sale to go into spark plug holes to air up your tires. And the old 120 volt dc kit that mounted under your dash to run 120 volt ac dc tools off your alternator in you car. They worked great for ac dc tools and incandescent light bulbs. You can take any alternator with ext regulator and replace voltage regulator with a old type heater switch and regulate voltage and reach 120 volt easy. A old 35 amp alternator gives you little over 3 amp 120 dc. With generator unhook voltage regulator voltage is controlled by rpm. A old cat generator with rpm controlling voltage will burn small welding rods all day long or if left on 1/2 water pipe to melt ice will need to be watched so pipe dont over heat.
The crossover tube is to prevent air lock. Necessary for such a tank design where air can get trapped and keep the tank from filling or draining properly i.e. without it you wouldn't be able to fill the pick-up tube side of the tank as trapped air would prevent you from filling that side with fuel. Also the gas mix ratio, based on those instructions, is 24:1
Thats right. In the 2000s I owned a `87 VW T3. Someday i lost gas. The tank had an anti air lock pipe, too, made of pvc. When the car gets old it shrinks and break the plastic knee which was connectet to the tank - horrible to change. I fixed it by mounting a new original knee and a pvc garden hose and clamps - it worked.
One should be a pulse line.
AMAZING 👏 I LEARNED ALOT IN YEARS WATCHING YOU ONE HELL OF A MECHANIC
Taryl DOES fix ALL....way to go
I got to admit I'm very Impressed I didn't know if you could get that going again - You Are The Master of small Engines Taryl
Hey Taryl . I have a Honda e40 . It has a 17cc 4 stroke engine and only puts out 40 watts . Much smaller than that unit ! Mine was built in 1964 , you should find one to look at !
Send it in to have it looked at! 😉
A James Condon candidate also
you sure the man Taryl im starting my own small engine repair and matance shop . Brooksville Fl . all because of you.
That's the smallest IV ever seen looks cool 😎 though
Great video, and you like me always have to search for those hard to find part
The smallest generator I had was on my bicycle and it powered my lights. But it was powered by my blood, sweat, and tears...
I put a larger input "pulley" on mine & was able to run 2 KC style lights. But, only if I was moving at a good clip
I had one of them.. that was pretty cool tech when I was a kid.
Same here. My son has it on HIS bike now, though the lights are long gone.
Had a few of them too as a kid. Some of the bike tires back then had grooves molded in the sidewall for the generator wheel to ride on. Cool memories
You can still get these "Bottle" generators. Peter White Cycles in Massachusetts has really nice ones from Germany. Never need to worry about dead batteries on you bike light, and unlike the cheap ones from the Far East, the German ones just LAST.
You are very different when you see something you have never seen before. It is your experience that is the ace in the hole so to speak. Fun to watch
Taryl, I'd love to see you make a farmer's battery charger from a pressure washer engine from a unit with a bad pump and a used alternator. A 72 amp with built-in regulator should do well, but smaller is ok, and bigger might not do well. A 6" pulley is needed for the engine to get the alternator up to speed. You might need to turn the engine sideways and keep the belt short. The rest should be easy to figure out.
I just made one out of a 5hp horizontal shaft B&S and a Delco 10si, used a 1/2" x 24'" belt, fashioned an adjustable spring belt tensioner. using a 3.5" pulley on the motor. Direct drive would be better with LoveJoy coupling, the Delco shaft is metric.
@@sierraromeo direct drive love joy will not give the rpm for the alternator. 5hp will use 2 delco 10si together. but for home made charger find a old generator, they can provide consent out put, where alternator can provide max out put for only a few min. Voltage on generator can be controlled by consent speed.
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@@cliffclark6441 direct drive (coupling or 1 to 1 belt will give you 50 amps at 3600. My apps only require 20amps, so I run my Briggs at 1800 most of the time, to power my wood boiler, and a internet relay link during low sunlight situations.
@@sierraromeo Tell me the alternator you are using and i will look up rpm amp out put. Never heard of any alternator putting out 50 amps at 3600, that's below idle speed alternator turns on any car, It needs to reach around 10,000 rpm. Reason you got to be careful which alternator you use to replace generator on tractors and diesel engines, some will not spin fast enough to ever excite alternator. I must run my tractor full throttle for a minute before the alternator will start charging. Converting generators to alternators speed of alternator was a problem we had to deal with for years. Like converting points to electron ign. Points will fire at any rpm, some older motors had to low cranking speed for electron ign. If you only need 20 amps for your application , You only need about 2 hp total engine out put to reach 13.5 volts. Even a 1/4 hp electric motor can turn alternator if volt out put is low, around 8 volt it will stall around 9 volts volt out put determiner input hp needed not amps. Speed needed to create magnetic field in alternator is why alternator is very sensitive to speed. It is a simple 3 phase motor using diode to create dc currant. It is not a true dc generator. A older delco 35 amp alternator like gm used for years, would be idea for your application. turn over 8,000 rpm it would take least amount of hp to operate. The old 35 amp alternator also will put out electric at lowest speed of any alternator i have ever used. Once brought up to speed to energize it puts out more amps at lower speed than any modern alternator. Higher max out put of alternator higher speed it needs to turn to begin charging.
There is nothing more entertaining than watching your videos plus you learn a lot about stuff. You should start a school on how to repair small engines,I am so impressed with your knowledge and experience. Plus you are so friggin funny.
The reason you don't sand with emery paper, I was told, was because the grit particles can detach and embed in the metal and you end up with like two bits of sand paper rubbing against each other
A little more elaboration: Emery cloth contains varying amounts of carbon. This carbon is harder than the contact metal and will become embedded in the surface of the contacts.
The carbon will do two things. One, there's the chance that it will make the contact area resistive. This causes a weak spark and arcing at the points. Two, because of the resistance and the arcing, the points will burn quicker.
Garnet and flint papers have less carbon, but they can still embed particles.
My dad would use a piece of coarse paper, like a paper bag, or if they were really bad, an ignition file.
@@ryoungatlmidotnet Also the grit may wear rub block or cam ...
When you have a diaphragm that needs replacing and there is no source, I have had luck at getting them softened so that they are pliable enough to operated properly, by soaking the diaphragm in brake fluid. I don't know how this works, but it does. When I was a kid in the 50s, O&R engines, were the gold standard for large model aircraft. I remember one model Lancaster bomber, that had 4 O&R 60cc engines and radio control. For us model builders, it was like seeing a unicorn. Beautiful little motors. Great, informative video.
When I was told not to use sandpaper on points, I was told not to use "silicone oxide" paper. The silicone will act as an insulator if a chunk gets left in and crushed up, as where aluminum oxide will powder up and fall off when crushed. Same goes for flame sensors on furnaces, the silicone oxide residue will melt into glass, the aluminum oxide paper grit will just burn up. If the paper says "waterproof" which almost all emery cloth is, it's going to be metal oxide based.
Silicon. Silicone is a compound of of silicon.
I was taught a similar concept about material impregnating in the contact pads. The impregnated material can cause high non conductive spots that lead to arcing and pad burn out. I was taught to use a fine contact file in training for chainsaw repair (Stihl) and the electrical industry ( mechanical contractor and relays). Right or wrong? Who knows it is what was taught at the time. Every time I am somewhere and see a new points file I get one.
@@jeremymanley5256 Agree, any type of sand paper is going to leave contaminants embedded in the contact material. File is whats best to clean the contact surface. But it ain't the space shuttle.
Point file should be used, Horrible Freight has a jeweler file selection in a pouch of a dozen or so,
Awesome little device and video.
Super enjoyable!
Fun fact; They gave this genny away for free when you bought a happy meal at Mcdonalds
did it run off of old french fryer oil??? dang your comment got me laughing!!
@@benscoles5085 Nugget sauce.
Back whenMc Donalds gave away cool toys.
Watched from beginning to end..thx for sharing
That is one wicked cute engine. Love all the quality Aluminum.. I Wish that i could find any info online of my small Fuji/Subaru inverter Generator with the mechanically throttled 2-stroke Robin engine. You have got to see how much power that thing has to believe it. Plus it puts out Major 12 or 24v power... like 80amps. It's the size of a milk crate, weighs 25lbs and will run my table saw or 15a skill saw cutting 2x4s. I have to see if i can get mine going... hasn't run in a while.. Thanks for this video 📹 👍 ~
I think mustie did something like a Fuji/Subaru not long ago if I'm remembering correctly.
Less than a year ago, I had a couple of surgeons do the same basic thing to one of my cardiac arteries! Worked out great. Probably a little more expensive, though. I don't remember any Lizard Cam involved.
Did your surgeons also get you to reevaluate the fuel you were putting through your carb so you wouldn't be back? Good to see you're still here...don't muck it up...
I had several of those Tiny Tigers 20 years ago. Both O&R and Tiny Tiger seemed to have different CA addresses when those were built during their production span. One had a very big cast aluminum muffler that helped a little bit but it still sounded like a deranged weed wacker. I think one was made by GADCO Electra but I forget who made the others I had and am not sure which company owned them first. That unit is made before 1964 because the O&R address has a two digit zone code they stopped in 1963 when they switched to zip codes. Mine all needed carb diaphragms and at the time Bobs Small Engine Service in IA was the only place selling the thin rubber membrane that fit them. Replaced it and they all ran fine.
The LED is polarity sensitive..
As the name suggests alternating current flows both ways. So a LED will lite on one side of the cycle. What you have to do is put diodes going both ways so the reverse polarity doesn't kill the LED. It doesn't have to be an LED but it can be. You also need a dropper circuit and maybe even a current limiting resistor too. Because LEDs do not like too much voltage applied to them.
It's a neon bulb, it won't strike until it gets 80-90 volts
The woooooooo is always enjoyed. We got a dance too. Excellent teaching video. Thank you.
Well Taryl, I am not with you, at the Aspen themathik... I do quit the same thing as you do here in Germany, little engine repairs. Aspen does eat especially old rubbers, like diaphrams, which ran always with standart fuel... I have lots of Chainsaws and Trimmers, which ran perfect until Aspen was used
Is Aspen expensive in Germany? It is terribly expensive here in USA just like everything else since 2021.
@@greglewis3382 Well, Aspen hasn't got more expensive since 2021, but yes, it is EXPENSIVE! At least compared to regular petrol
Glad to see you cleaned the camera lens the quality is soooo much better. lol
i love your work! very educational! great job!
vintage is king; this was a good one Taryl; thanks for sharing.