Installing Press Fit Pistons - 340 Buick V8 - Two Methods

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  • In this video, we walk through the process of installing press fit pistons and connecting rods for the 340 Buick V8 that has been moving through the shop.
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  • @jim5549
    @jim5549 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This takes me back many years! The sound of the boring bar and installing pistons. Nothing makes you quite as sick as realizing you installed a nice new piston facing the wrong way! Still have my old Kwidkway boring bar and Sioux valve and seat grinder! And yes check, check and double check! I've been burned by mis numbered rods too.... I had seen pictures of the fixture to cold press pins but never seen one in real life. Thanks for bringing back so many memories!

    • @johnrader2694
      @johnrader2694 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Poooooooooolplooo

  • @geofffairhall5802
    @geofffairhall5802 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Great video like how you show the mistake and how you fixed it. Many would edit it out.
    Keep up the great work

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you! Mistakes are bound to happen. Most are small and fixable like this one. Transparency is the best policy.

  • @michaelmcclure8673
    @michaelmcclure8673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Young Man , you're coming along great with the machine shop work. I wish we had folks around here that put that much pride in the finished product. 👌

  • @Robyrob7771
    @Robyrob7771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I took engine rebuilding 30 years ago all they showed us was pressing the pin into the connecting rod.
    When I serviced cranes we would heat the bearing for installation.

  • @joemarvin5170
    @joemarvin5170 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've really enjoyed watching you work on a old Buick. Don't see those very often.

  • @heinrichnitschke5485
    @heinrichnitschke5485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great content and quality workmanship. Always cool to see skilled professionals doing high quality work.

  • @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259
    @thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very good, it's not often we get to see this operation. Thank you!

  • @scottgoodson6046
    @scottgoodson6046 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate the detail you put in to what you do.

  • @rmchevelle
    @rmchevelle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Long time hardcore gearhead, diy mechanic and non-automotive production machinist but have never seen the official process of press fitting pistons to connecting rods. Thanks for this! Nice equipment.

  • @FreshBeatsification
    @FreshBeatsification 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s always refreshing watching these videos

  • @cronedentside74
    @cronedentside74 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad I watched this. Talked me out of trying to install wrist pins on my 460 Ford. I'll be taking them to a shop.

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used motor.. until they quit making them.. Still have some from the old days around I think.. I had to quit working on cars about three years ago.. Outstanding.. love the old stuff!

  • @stephenpoe2037
    @stephenpoe2037 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks ! More interesting stuff ! I remember my old 283 small block had press fit pistons !

  • @josepharagon8259
    @josepharagon8259 ปีที่แล้ว

    Immaculate shop, super sharp tools…

  • @vincemajestyk9497
    @vincemajestyk9497 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's refreshing to see somebody that somebody actually knows the proper use of a rod heater without overheating the piss out of the rods and changing color. I wish all these other places would learn how to use one. So many 'You Tube Experts' that heat up the rods way beyond what is necessary and say it's OK.
    I've taken apart engines that were rebuilt multiple times and the stamps are all over the place. The two rod pieces matched but the numbers didn't correspond to the correct cylinders, and most were re-stamped or had multiples of a particular number, ie two number 6 rods.

  • @shawnd649
    @shawnd649 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is the content i subscribed for!! love your work and the family shop your carry together!!!

  • @kellyappel3015
    @kellyappel3015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. Never been a fan of press fit wrist pins. Seen 'em move before, for whatever reason. Floating pins with retainers are nice.

  • @mjshuja1948
    @mjshuja1948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LOVED YOUR VIDEO 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @jamesrossmotors
    @jamesrossmotors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your honesty when you make slight mistakes. When i use to do this i would use a drift that centered on the pin. I would then lay the piston on my thighs with some cushioning and give the drift a sharp blow with a 10lb mash hammer. I never lost a single piston in 30 years and it was very quick and easy

  • @roadstarman58
    @roadstarman58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I did many balance jobs back in the 80's for guys who'd taken their stuff to their local hero who couldn't balance anything. They'd bring the box of pistons in with the rods standing at attention because their 'hero' had pressed them together ( not realizing you do that AFTER it's balanced ) using the piston as the anvil and distorting the pin bore so the pin would barely move. We always wound up repairing this for free after having to press them apart for the balance job. It was always entertaining to check the bearing bore on the rods after resizing, too....

  • @sonyhk3824
    @sonyhk3824 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful video. Cheers man

  • @evankibbe590
    @evankibbe590 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always learn something here!!!!
    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😊😊😊🌎🌞

  • @johndingjk2899
    @johndingjk2899 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video... also your father is an great teacher ... need more videos :D

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Trying to stick to one video a week minimum lol

  • @abc-coleaks-info3180
    @abc-coleaks-info3180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the longer content ✌

  • @klank1973
    @klank1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We did pistons diffrent. I heated the Rod and he placed the piston and wrist oun by hand. Old school. John Tucker was his name. He built and raced in the 60s. Hemi's of course.

  • @rushbnostopp
    @rushbnostopp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Quality content

  • @WaynesWorldGarage
    @WaynesWorldGarage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job, thanks for sharing. Have you ever used an induction heater on the rods?

  • @josephdurish2315
    @josephdurish2315 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome

  • @MultiFreedom9
    @MultiFreedom9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice outro! Also those were some nice interference fits

  • @eansippel9713
    @eansippel9713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would like to add you need to check the rod and piston for perpendicularity. Put the press fit assembly, there is a vee-block if there is a gap you need to twist the rod assy. Keep checking until the twist is eliminated. My Sunnen vise had the spacer a rod for twisting. I did 1300 sets per year for Atchision Machine service in London, Ont, CDN

  • @copeland1969
    @copeland1969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old 340 Buick. I had one years ago. They only built that engine 2 years.

    • @keithstudly6071
      @keithstudly6071 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any idea how much changed between the 340 and the 1968 350?

  • @paulgorowitz4007
    @paulgorowitz4007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a video showing/explaining how your shop crane works? The one you use to move blocks & heads around the shop.
    I’m curious how it works and how it’s installed.

  • @westendcages
    @westendcages 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn... I hot a Buick 340 sitting in my shop. You're the second person I've ever seen actually work on one. Most people tell me I made a mistake and it's actually a Buick 430.

    • @jeffo881
      @jeffo881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      would that make it "dyslex-uick"???

    • @aideningram434
      @aideningram434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffo881 LOL🤣

  • @Adam_Poirier
    @Adam_Poirier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber here, awesome channel man! I checked out your website you guys have a very nice business there. I am a heavy equipment mechanic in CT, I wish you guys weren’t so far away I would be bringing all my machining needs to you. Great video thanks!

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Yes, we wish we could do work for everyone lol. I think we might get tired if that was the case haha

    • @Adam_Poirier
      @Adam_Poirier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JAMSIONLINE i hear you there buddy. Im impressed with how talented you and your dad are. Im 31 i think your about my age, maybe a little younger. These days it seems like a good hands on machinist is getting hard to find so keep up the good work. Can’t wait to see your future videos!

  • @chevyboyforlife4234
    @chevyboyforlife4234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love it if I had access to a shop like this...I would build some really cool cars...I got the know how just not the funds

  • @JasonTheMunicipalMechanic
    @JasonTheMunicipalMechanic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a 99 ford escort with a 2.0 I think? Anyway it had press fit pins.

  • @jeffo881
    @jeffo881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top Shelf

  • @Thomas-ts2gl
    @Thomas-ts2gl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you had to remove it (piston on backwards lets say) would you press it out or heat the connecting rod while still on the piston?

  • @alotl1kevegas860
    @alotl1kevegas860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool. Keep up the good work

  • @RickLaws83
    @RickLaws83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you get the piston jig for setting the pin?

  • @kashubelua
    @kashubelua หลายเดือนก่อน

    yep, i discover this, there is no bushing, wrist pin in contact directly with the piston? wasn't able to see much detail about that? thx

  • @poet99999
    @poet99999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That electric (assuming) gas pedal on the press seems tough to feather😳

  • @Chopper1095
    @Chopper1095 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi. Can i use a Full Floating Wrist Pin without using a Brass Bushing on the Rod ?

  • @Adrian-ek9ne
    @Adrian-ek9ne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    About how hot should you get the connecting rod?

  • @BulliKid
    @BulliKid 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I know if my rod is floating or pressed fit?

  • @kowalski2041
    @kowalski2041 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is that tool y’all are using to adjust the wrist pin without ruining the piston?

  • @kendriver9139
    @kendriver9139 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,
    Who is the manufacture and part number of that pin press jig you used.

  • @josephgonzales5363
    @josephgonzales5363 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you set it up to make sure the pin is in the middle

  • @wesleytucker3080
    @wesleytucker3080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I work in a family automotive machine shop as well. We use a sunnen rod heater but it’s the same concept. I’d really like to know where you can get one of those rod supporting “jigs” you used to fix the centering of the pin. Is this homemade?

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I believe the one we have is from OTC tool but I couldn't find theirs. Goodson sells one here:
      goodson.com/products/ppe-7082-piston-pin-removal-fixture?variant=48613711750

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well worth paying someone to do it. I've done them before with good luck but the last set I did didnt work at all and ended up having to buy a new set of pistons.

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! They go great until they don't! And often these days you can't get a single new piston as most are sold in sets. Not that I don't support people learning to do things themselves and trying to do things themselves, but unfortunately this is something that is easy to mess up.

  • @drobinray
    @drobinray 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what if not centered conrrectly? maybe 1-2mm short

  • @deancole6498
    @deancole6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    chanfer aways goes toward crank journal wall

  • @Rusty-Brown_
    @Rusty-Brown_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WHERE CAN I BUY------- THAT---- JIG--------- TO PRESS FIT PISTONS ????

  • @jtg2737
    @jtg2737 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:03, what is that part called(jig), brand, and is there a part number for it, please?

  • @mmandm657
    @mmandm657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would putting the pin in freezer and heating up piston and rod allow pin to drop in

    • @vincemajestyk9497
      @vincemajestyk9497 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not at all. You're not going to chill the metal enough to create any contraction, but you will cause the heat to be pulled out of the rod quicker possibly resulting in not enough time to get it into the correct position. This is another 'internet myth'. Freezers only go to 0 degrees (or thereabout). That's maybe 75-80 degrees difference from room temperature. Zero effect on the pin. If it's that much of a concern, why not just heat the rod up 75 more degrees? By the way, I don't advocate that. You only need to heat it up as much is as necessary, anything more is excess.

  • @samus40glock
    @samus40glock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about removing press fit rods?

  • @ihatecrackhead
    @ihatecrackhead ปีที่แล้ว

    cross oiling squirters always point away from the bottom of the piston

  • @scoobyj5096
    @scoobyj5096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where did u get the tool

  • @benlastname6249
    @benlastname6249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mate, I'm interested to know where you got that piston jig for the press from? Could really use one of them for my shop!
    G'day from Australia 🇦🇺

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello! I believe the one we have is actually from OTC tools, but I couldn't find theirs. Goodson.com sells one:
      goodson.com/products/ppe-7082-piston-pin-removal-fixture?variant=48613711750

    • @benlastname6249
      @benlastname6249 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JAMSIONLINE thank you sir!

  • @holysmokes7783
    @holysmokes7783 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bruh can you tell me if i hit it with force is it advisable

  • @vannorman1116
    @vannorman1116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any idea how many tons it takes to push a pin thru the rod when at room temp ?

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A somewhat wild guess after crunching some potentially inaccurate numbers, I'm gonna guess around 1.5 tons or less?
      www.engineersedge.com/manufacturing_spec/press_fit_force.htm

    • @b_ouncedatazz
      @b_ouncedatazz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      3 tons

  • @gfbemc0256
    @gfbemc0256 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos. Are you interested in taking new customers?

  • @brianbarsness9828
    @brianbarsness9828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a jig for sale like the one you used in the video?

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Goodson sells one:
      goodson.com/collections/catalog-page-85/products/ppe-7082-piston-pin-removal-fixture
      If you end up ordering one, tell them I sent you lol.
      Not too cheap unfortunately :(

  • @Soosenbinder_
    @Soosenbinder_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yaaaas

  • @prevost8686
    @prevost8686 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many times have you guys had to tell a greenhorn that heating rods doesn’t hurt them?😆

  • @scoobyj5096
    @scoobyj5096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did u remove

  • @forrestcook8958
    @forrestcook8958 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I purchase the press jig to support the connecting rod properly

    • @vincemajestyk9497
      @vincemajestyk9497 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's a Kent-Moore or SPX tool I've seen those before.

  • @justinmixon6290
    @justinmixon6290 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would still rather have the paper reference materials.

  • @johnknox5692
    @johnknox5692 ปีที่แล้ว

    check and recheck your work i sleep better at night that way.

  • @johnnyholland8765
    @johnnyholland8765 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't hang your micrometers. Store them laying flat...

    • @JAMSIONLINE
      @JAMSIONLINE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Been hanging there well over 20 years and still on the money. Just your normal recalibration as necessary.

  • @kennypool
    @kennypool 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buffering

  • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
    @TOMVUTHEPIMP ปีที่แล้ว

    "Who uses press fit pistons?" Unless you buy high end forged $500+ pistons, you're getting press fit....that's who.