The Pioneer Podcast #24 The Afrikaner origin story - Ernst van Zyl

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  • @ErnstRoets
    @ErnstRoets  3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you would like to support this podcast, please visit afrikaner.org/support.

  • @raynafletch
    @raynafletch 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    You have exactly worded what what I felt when living in the Netherlands for a year. We never really felt at home in the Western culture, and then I realized it is because we truly have our own unique culture, we are a combination of the Western and African culture. So glad to be home❤

    • @ThamiNtombela-fj1sn
      @ThamiNtombela-fj1sn 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Delusional....How can you not feel at home in Netherlands, that's your motherland...the caucasity

  • @Charlkie711
    @Charlkie711 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Hierdie was 'n baie goeie gesprek. Dankie Ernst en Ernst. :) God is goed. Ek hoop meer Afrikaners keer terug na hul erfenis.

  • @dewetmaartens359
    @dewetmaartens359 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Great video, thank you. I just have one thing to add. Boer hunting parties had travelled through the interior for over a hundred years before the Great Trek. Although much was still unknown to us we still had a rough idea what was out there.
    We will be free one day and we will give all the glory to God.

    • @SteveWarlee
      @SteveWarlee 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Black population was tiny back then, coz they died left right and centre from diseases they had zero cure for. Now they cover the earth like ants.

  • @ConsciousCaracal
    @ConsciousCaracal 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Dankie vir die lekker gesprek, Ernst.

  • @anthonybrink7880
    @anthonybrink7880 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Fantastic conversation.

  • @Keizer_Soze
    @Keizer_Soze 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    what a great podcast

  • @SB-wh9kf
    @SB-wh9kf 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thank you. 100% accurate. If apologies and reparations were supposed to be the norm then Italy should apologize to almost the whole of Europe and the UK for Julius Ceaser's campaigns. Instead Europe is inundated with monuments celebrating the achievements of the Roman Empire. Same with the Ottoman empire (the Turks), Chinese dominance, Egypt. The list is long.
    I may just add that many English speaking South Africans also consider themselves 'Afrikaners' in the sense that they feel they're rather 'from Africa' than 'from Britain' and identify themselves as unique in Africa. A third commonality and shared history. Afrikaners, Zulus and english speaking 'Afrikaners' relevant to the 16th of December.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      South Africa has mainly 2 white Euro-African ethnic groups, namely 60% Afrikaner (ex Dutch, German and French of 1650-1800) and 40% English (ex Britain of 1800-1900). All Afrikaners are white (South) Africans, but all white (South) Africans (including the ex Britain English) are not Afrikaners.

    • @SteveWarlee
      @SteveWarlee 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂 and yet God rejected Ur silly day of the vow and gave it back to the clowns.😂

    • @SteveWarlee
      @SteveWarlee 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All Afrikaners carry 60% black genes.

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You the rejected one.
      Have you heard of the saying ...if you can't say anything good say nothing at all
      What a sad, sad person you are trying to spew rubbish where people are just enjoying a bit of history/video
      Let me give you something to think about
      Open the Bible and read the last book Revelations.
      That is where we are right now. Look around floods, famine, earthquakes, fires, droughts, volcanic eruptions and pestilence. End times like or not, believe it or not.
      Bible prophecy being fulfilled, God's will being done.
      Bible warns about a famine the that the world has never seen before, also a famine of God's word
      Instead of getting into other peoples faces repent and follow Jesus Christ our Lord and savior. For he is the only way to the Father
      Do you know about the rising of the Antichrist, Mark of the beast.
      Make sure you sealed with the Mark of God
      1day = 1000 years ...

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      See my comment to you was deleted
      No problem wait for 2025 👀

  • @georginapaul9672
    @georginapaul9672 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Faith and Prayer accomplishes much! Today as well.

  • @willemvanaswegen1937
    @willemvanaswegen1937 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    The song "Bloedrivier" narrates the epic tale of the Battle of Blood River in 1838, where 464 Boers, driven by faith and determination, defended themselves against over 25,000 Zulu warriors. The lyrics depict the dramatic battle scenes, the bravery of the Boers, and the vow they made to God. The victory is celebrated as a testament to their faith and unity, and the history is honored as a lesson in courage and perseverance. th-cam.com/video/Y9lsNthFlwM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=cfA0tqmgACdyqxKl

  • @TheGrey32
    @TheGrey32 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Ek het hierdie episode besonders baie geniet. So belangrik dat Afriknaers hulle storie daarbuite kry. - 'n waardevole boodskap

  • @ZackDeldenEkblom
    @ZackDeldenEkblom 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    (19:46) I'm that "someone out of the audience". And i'm glad to have played a small part in this conversation.

  • @karenessauthor
    @karenessauthor 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I am very English speaking, but one of my ancestors was incarcerated in the British concentration camps and I recently found out , we were related to Piet Retief
    So I reaalllly want to get in touch with that part of my culture.

  • @hettieroelofse4529
    @hettieroelofse4529 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As a nation we know and have experienced God answering the outcries and prayers of His children, trusting God.
    Will God find us deserving in these days in the national crisis we face?

  • @janvanaardt3773
    @janvanaardt3773 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Afskaffing van slawery nie hoofrede vir trek ,daar was baie rede bv die veiligheid op iOS grens ens

  • @TjakaErasmus
    @TjakaErasmus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Ons Boere ly nie aan "Victim Mentallity" nie.

    • @helanalurie9962
      @helanalurie9962 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dis so waar. Ons lig net ons koppe en gaan aan met ons liewe Heer as kompas en Beskermer

  • @lizavanwyngaard346
    @lizavanwyngaard346 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Ons geloftevolk staan vandag weereens op presies dieselfde plek as wat ons voorvaders gestaan het voor die Groot Trek. Daarom gaan ons Maandag 16 Des nie net ons Gelofte aflê nie maar die knie buig in diepe afhanklikheid van ons Skepper Vader om ons weereens te verlos/red. Afriforum: ‘Ons sal self’ NEE ons kan nie self nie!!!!

    • @PennyPienaar
      @PennyPienaar วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ek het nou episode 25 gekyk. Die "ons sal self" beteken sonder hulp van die staat. Dit beteken nie sonder die Vader nie.

  • @Stephan-n8p
    @Stephan-n8p 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I propose you get Johan Jooste in for a chat... He completed his masters at UP on the Anglo Boer war.

  • @beckieknight6184
    @beckieknight6184 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hello Ernst, you won't believe this... My great grandfather purchased two stands in Blood River. I have two original Title Deeds😢😮😢😮

  • @johannascheepers5013
    @johannascheepers5013 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Al die lof, eer en aanbidding kom aan God toe. Was dit nie vir Almagtige ingryping van God nie, sou daar nooit 'n Geloftedag gewees nie.
    Julle onderskryf die belangrikheid van kinderlike geloof in 'n Alwetende, Almagtige God.

  • @PietStassenAdamastor
    @PietStassenAdamastor 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It would be interesting to know which families were all involved in the Battle of Blood River so that Afrikaners could trace whether they were genealogically linked to the Battle historically. People with such info may notify me on this TH-cam Username. Thanks.

    • @davidblyth5495
      @davidblyth5495 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      A friend found that information in a series of books authored by a historian.
      The books were at the Government Printers in Pretoria during the 1970s

    • @willemienaldum2373
      @willemienaldum2373 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wikipedia af.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lys van deelnemers aan die slag van Bloedrivier

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same. Same genomics, language, Christian Protestant religion, history and culture.

    • @davidblyth5495
      @davidblyth5495 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@HannoVisagiemany have realised Calvin's errors and have moved on to truth.
      That doesn't change their ethnicity or culture

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidblyth5495 , Christian Protestantism is/was the broad breakaway from Roman Catholicism. Calvinist / Gereformeerde / Hervormde Kerke are/were worldwide only a small part of Protestantism.

  • @wouterlamprecht1497
    @wouterlamprecht1497 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ja dit is Baie belangrik Dat Ons nie die dag en gelofte vergeet teen oor GOD vergeet nie. Die GOD van skeping. Maar ook die GOD wat aan Ons voorgestel is deur die Jode. Dat Ons GOD leer Ken het uit die gesidenes van Israel. Hoe GOD met hul was deur moeilike tye. Hul gee Ons die Bybel en Ons die verloser bring uit die Stam van Juda. Ja Ons het Ons geskaar by die GOD van Abraham Isak en Jacob. En moet nooit vergeet Dat dit wat geld vir Israel geld ook vir Ons. Daarom is dit belangrik om te lees wat beloof vir die wat ag slaan op die instriksies van GOD maar ok wat Sal gebeur as Ons dit Sal verontagsaam. Lees Deut 28. ARIKANERS KEUR TERUG NA DIE GOD VAN DIE GELOFTE VAN 16 DESEMBER 1838. EN STAAN VERSTOM WAT GOD WEER VIR ONS SAL DOEN 😮❤

  • @alanoberholzer7587
    @alanoberholzer7587 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is Potgieter and the matabele never talked about.

  • @willemvanaswegen1937
    @willemvanaswegen1937 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    th-cam.com/video/QFy6Z2BCgNA/w-d-xo.html This song is more of the international community. The song narrates the epic tale of the Battle of Blood River in 1838, where 464 Boers, driven by faith and determination, defended themselves against over 25,000 Zulu warriors. The lyrics depict the dramatic battle scenes, the bravery of the Boers, and the vow they made to God. The victory is celebrated as a testament to their faith and unity, and the history is honored as a lesson in courage and perseverance

  • @derekbotha9405
    @derekbotha9405 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We will never sacrifice our faith in our Creator, our Protector, our Healer, our Saviour and our Messiah, Yeshua, Jesus Christ. He is the Word of God as declared by Elohim', our Father which are in heaven in Revelation chapter 19! Tomorrow is the day we will recall about the miracle that happened and will happen again, our foundation is not religion but our Messiah, the Word of God as declared in Ephesians chapter 6!!

  • @AnnieDuToit-q8i
    @AnnieDuToit-q8i 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤😢😊

  • @davidblyth5495
    @davidblyth5495 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    A myth is a legend based on an event. The event may have actually occurred or not.
    The crux is the validity of the moral lesson of the myth.
    Ernst erred in claiming a covenant with God.
    A covenant is an "agreement" between God and a community.
    There's several examples of covenants in the Hebrew Scriptures.
    In each of these cases, God stated the conditions He expected from the community.
    In the case of the Battle of Blood River, it was a unilateral undertaking from the Voortrekker community. God did not speak or state conditions.
    It was, therefore, not a covenant but a vow.

    • @SteveWarlee
      @SteveWarlee 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂😂😂 and went very pear shaped.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They did not claim the wrong "covenant" (verbond), but the correct "vow" (gelofte).

    • @davidblyth5495
      @davidblyth5495 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HannoVisagie during the interview, Ernst incorrectly said that it was a covenant.
      You are correct in that it is a vow/oath (gelofte/eed)

  • @Podlitiek
    @Podlitiek 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Podlitiek verteenwoordig.

  • @ChristoBrand-d6e
    @ChristoBrand-d6e 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    DINGAANSDAG❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂

  • @TjakaErasmus
    @TjakaErasmus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Daar's nie koedoes, rooibokke en vlakvarke in Europa nie 🙂

    • @kentuckyfriedchicken4740
      @kentuckyfriedchicken4740 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Maar daar is n Klomp Erasmusse in Europa, hulle regte vaderland

    • @TjakaErasmus
      @TjakaErasmus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kentuckyfriedchicken4740 En adel ook nogal. G'n wonder ons is nou Super Adel in Afrika! 😂

  • @TjakaErasmus
    @TjakaErasmus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Voortrekker = Pioneer

  • @salomemalherbe677
    @salomemalherbe677 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Waar kry jy ooit enige Local
    Engelse wat so n vlak van gesprek soos julle hier doen, in Afrikaans te voer ??!!

  • @ernamccollam5573
    @ernamccollam5573 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Geloftedag was n verbond tussen ons voorvaders en ons Skepper. Ons en ons nasate moet dit herdenk as n heilige Sondag.
    Net 2 nasies het n verbond met God, Israel 🇮🇱 en die Afrikaners met Bloedrivier.

    • @koosvonlandsberg5353
      @koosvonlandsberg5353 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      SABBAT ,,,,,NIE DIE DAG VAN DIE SON NIE !!!!!!!

  • @andrieswilmans2985
    @andrieswilmans2985 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Your comments referring to Zulus as friendly towards Afrikaners should be viewed with caution. What happened to Piet Retief could happen again with treacherous Zulu leaders.

    • @Fitzgerald-e5v
      @Fitzgerald-e5v 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I grew up with Zulus. If you had earned their respect they will walk through the fire with you. To make friends with the Zulus can change our situation in SA for the better.

    • @ConsciousCaracal
      @ConsciousCaracal 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gaan lees Barend Uys se stuk "Om konings Dingane én Mpande te onthou" op Maroela Media. Ons geskiedenis is baie ryker as slegs 'n handjievol stories.

  • @TjakaErasmus
    @TjakaErasmus 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hoekom was daar net 12 000 Zoeloes? Hulle't net 100 Putco busse gehad! 🤣

  • @DawiePieterse-n7t
    @DawiePieterse-n7t 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    th-cam.com/video/xhnMYRa3LfM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=3YeSpdiiQ2vlD1cx
    Dr Lets Pretorius oor sy boek en navorsing in die verskil tussen Boer en Afrikaner

    • @KobusSwart1260
      @KobusSwart1260 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Jy is reg Boere nie Afrikaners nie 😢

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same. Same genomics, language, Christian Protestant religion, history and culture.

    • @DawiePieterse-n7t
      @DawiePieterse-n7t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @KobusSwart1260 dankie

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Vryburger = Trekboer = Grensboer = Voortrekker = Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. Een en dieselfde volk / etnisiteit. Dieselfde Europese stamvaders, genomika, Christen-Protestantse geloof, taal, geskiedenis en kultuur.

    • @DawiePieterse-n7t
      @DawiePieterse-n7t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @HannoVisagie no my friend the informasiin in archives oversees tels another story. I hae study it for more tha 4 years.
      Spesialy thei religeon when the Boers came here. Once here the were forced to be calvinists. The church in the Cape was the govermend and the govermend was the church. This was what it boiled down to.. The SA history is written by the rulers and that was the so called whit Afrikaner leaders.

  • @innovruptly1769
    @innovruptly1769 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    First 100 years of the Cape Colony, some Hollanders arrived and married some of the "slaves" (indentured labour) from Guinea. Worthy slaves had their serive to the VOC manumitted. They were granted lands which they farmed and were owners of "slaves". Some of these families are indistinguishable from the white South Africans - Afrikaners or Boers. Because of their African slave heritage, largely on the maternal side have lived on no other Continent.
    Over the years, some of the women married European men, some married Griekwa, but mainly families from the first 100 years kept marriages amongst themselves. afaik

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      According to a recently published genomics study by prof Greeff, UP dept genetics head, the modern Afrikaner has only 4,7% non-European genes. He is 95,3% European or white, which is a summa cum laude achievement for any ex European white people in Africa starting 1652.

    • @koosvonlandsberg5353
      @koosvonlandsberg5353 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hmmmmm ware BOERVOLK lede het talle DNS TOETSE gedoen , 99 % suiwer Europese Merkers ,
      Maar ,,,die sogenaamde Afrikaner mense is deurtrek met DNS MERKERS veral van Malaysia en Madagascar .

  • @DawiePieterse-n7t
    @DawiePieterse-n7t 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Ernst you Cape Dutch dit not became Afrikaners at Blood river.
    You became Afrikaners in 1881 after you stole that name from the origanal Afrikaner People in 1881.
    The Boer people fought at Blood river in 1838 not the Cape Dutch or Afrkaners

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same. Same genomics, language, Christian Protestant religion, history and culture.

    • @jaapbronkhorst3155
      @jaapbronkhorst3155 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No Afrikaner volk existed in 1838. Careful to engage Afrikaner as part of Bloedrivier battle.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jaapbronkhorst3155, Trekboer = Voortrekker = Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same people/ethnicity/volk. Same genomics, language, Christian Protestant religion, history and culture.

    • @DawiePieterse-n7t
      @DawiePieterse-n7t 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jaapbronkhorst3155 the only Afrikaner volk that existed before 1838 were the Afrikaners of Jan Jonker and Oude Ram Afrikaner. Google their history. Today the stil exist and live in Nanibia

    • @koosvonlandsberg5353
      @koosvonlandsberg5353 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      WAARDEER !!!!!

  • @AbsolutelyRufus-o1h
    @AbsolutelyRufus-o1h 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    painting Boer and Afrikaner as one...very sad.
    The mentality and view on life/lifestyle is very different....
    Haven’t met one “Boer” that’s a sellout for money and the system.

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Who are you or anyone else to label others? What a cheek!
      See that is the problem, will be interesting to know what makes YOU a Boer?

    • @JUAN_OLIVIER
      @JUAN_OLIVIER 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Boers and Afrikaners are factually two different people but it is not always a difference of good or bad people. It is a case of a group of people that moved away from the cape and later formed their own unique identity and believes apart from the Cape Dutch.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same. Same genomics, language, Christian Protestant religion, history and culture.

  • @johnlourens2460
    @johnlourens2460 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    How can you punt your own tribe on such a historic day THAT BELONGS TO THE BOER TRIBE.
    It's NOT YOUR HISTORY.
    SHAME ON YOU.

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The (Boere-)Afrikaner is not a tribe, but a people, ethnicity and culture.

    • @koosvonlandsberg5353
      @koosvonlandsberg5353 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WAARDEER!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @whatdoiknowjustamortalsoon8633
    @whatdoiknowjustamortalsoon8633 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Daar is n verskil tussen Afrikaner en Boer.

    • @bethdfl8823
      @bethdfl8823 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What would that be?

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same. Same genomics, language, Christian Protestant religion, history and culture.

  • @sonjamarx7144
    @sonjamarx7144 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Gelofte is not a covenant. Where do you get it from that one small group in an area decide for a whole nation over a whole country? The reason for us here is becaise God send us to represent Him, build His Kingdom and not our own. Read Matt 6.33

    • @davidblyth5495
      @davidblyth5495 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A covenant is an agreement under oath between parties.
      In Scripture we see the conditions of the agreement when God spoke.
      In the run up to the battle of Blood River, the Voortrekkers prayed and made a vow.
      We have no evidence that God spoke at all!

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gelofte = vow. Geloftedag = Day of the Vow.

    • @davidblyth5495
      @davidblyth5495 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@HannoVisagiecorrect, it would be a vow.
      A vow being an undertaking to perform an agreed task.
      Compliance with the oath/vow bestows blessings.
      Deviation from the vow brings the curse.
      Example 2 Peter 2:21

    • @abcdjkx
      @abcdjkx 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidblyth5495 It's better not to make a vow at all. (Matthew 5:34). But probably everyone does it in their lives at some point.

  • @MILC0M
    @MILC0M 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    P L E A S E !!!!!! There were NO Afrikaners at Bloodriver BUT Boers

    • @bekkerbosbeer3453
      @bekkerbosbeer3453 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Tbh if you own a farm you can be called a Boer, otherwise you are a Afrikaner

    • @Oatmeal_Mann
      @Oatmeal_Mann 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Semantics; semantics. Call me an Afrikaner, a Boer, a Hollander, a settler ; a racist: I don't care. My blood, language and culture remains the same.

    • @bekkerbosbeer3453
      @bekkerbosbeer3453 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Oatmeal_Mann that's all I wanted to clear up!!

    • @reniergraham1127
      @reniergraham1127 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jy is 💯 reg, nie afrikaner nie maar 💯 BOER!!!!

    • @HannoVisagie
      @HannoVisagie 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Boer = Boere-Afrikaner = Afrikaner. One and the same. Same genomics, language, history and culture.