05 WRX STI BUILT Hybrid 272 cams first start up after build.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- First start after build, If I look strung out, its because itd been a very very very long couple of days. Now its time to put a little break-in time on. After I get some kind of tuning going. if you see any smoke from the Hood its the header wrap, they all do that at first. This video is for me and my friends, so if you have some crap to spew, please just go hang yourself.
Brian Crower - i did similar s/steel swirl polished valves - bronze guides - single springs - special guide seals and re done valve seats = that was big dollars .
I got the long black off of someone on NASIOC, But I opened it up to check everything, Found that the timing belt was not running true, so I had to do a little filing on the block, easy fix, but if I hadnt done that, I could have scrapped the engine in the first ten mins of run time. It felt superb hearing that thing start up. Now its time to tune. this engine is able to make big HP. but until I do something with the trans, I only plan to fun low boost, and very mild tune. Maybe 300-350 Hp
Bu the way.. Manley gapless forged pistons are only ones that dont chatter at all. I learned that adter i bought JE. You should still hear slight piston ticking sounds even when warm. My just started on 1st try too. On a cobb made e-tune. I dyno it in 2 days at surgeline. I got 1100 miles break in under 4k rpms with 15boost cut/5.5k rpm rev limiter
Don't the smaller heads raise the static compression?
Yes it would, if you just slapped the ej2.0 heads on an ej2.5 block. You can get around this by putting thicker head gaskets, OR have the combustion chamber machined to match the larger bore, there are a few shops that know what they are doing. I do not recommend using head gaskets as spacers.
Cams not as noticeable as I thought they'd be. Maybe you shuda went stage3 280's with a 10.80 lift. Urs cool that you gotta a start on first turn tho! Where you @ now? And what Heads do u have?
I have herd forged pistons are noisy but wow hah.. Nice build
I loved how i can hear ur forged pistons chatter. Makes me feel much better about my firged piston chatter. Its normal but freaks me out cuz i never had them before
Ok. To answer a few questions.
I'm using a TD05/20G hybrid turbo.
Equal length header, cat-less everything.
900cc injector clinic. Injectors.
The "knock" is piston slap. Weisco pistons. Once the engine is up to temp. It's a lot quieter. Still sounds like shit. But w injectors that size. You're always going to have noise.
Honestly. The hardest thing is The tuning. I'm doing open source tune, 3rd gear data log pulls. 7k on the new build.
Only issue so far was with the phenolic intak
Is that piston slap dangerous? I have a similar sound on my 05 Sti (Swapped ej207 Version 7)
@@bikboi8768 pretty much all the built motors do it. (207 is fully forged i.e. built from the factory) my 205 slaps like a mofo lol but I send it 🤷♂️
This metal noose is from cam lift ?
You mean "noise"? The noise you hear on this startup is the billet pistons. they are noisy until they heat up.
With the Ecu mapped the 272 cams don't lope very often, every once in awhile she lopes but only when it's at low idle, I mean 480-550 rpms. The heads ar standard usdm ej205, with the combustion chamber machined to match the 2.5 block. The machining lowers the compression ratio to a manageable stock Sti range. The ports have all been port matched as well as polished. Double spring valves w/ titanium retainers.
that must have been way exciting. what turbo did you decide to go with?
curious because i have a built hybrid as well and going 35r but my mind seems to jump around.
Fp black
piston slap ?
Billit pistons are noisy until they reach temp. My brand new camaro ss did the same. Also. It’s a Subaru. You can hear the #4 cylinder on brand new engines.
@@justooln2 My subaru forester XT 2004 have cp carrillo pistons and are very noisy too
Can't wait to get mine started. I know the cams are supposed to be 20 minutes above 2000rpm with non synthetic. What break in procedure did you have to do for the block and how quickly dos you go straight to a pro tune I'm in the process of finishing mine right now that's why I ask
I ran royal purple break in lube, and performed my break in procedure. I never did a "pro-tune" I data logged and tuned it myself. (dont recommend). If everything is tight and correct, I think 2k rpm is good over idle, but I dont run at only 2k. I feather up and down in the rpms a little. The biggest issue would think you might have is the afr. If you are dumping so much fuel that you are washing out the rings and contaminating the oil, well that is not something I would want to break in an engine with. Point being, Run for X period (short ish) then shut down and smell your oil, check for fuel.
+Mr Love's Garage thanks for the advice I got ahold of the person tuning me and have a break in tune coming in the next day or so and should be on the dyno within a week of it being back together
did u do all the work in the garage? looks surprisingly clean in the bay, amazing job. that must feel phenomenal starting it up okay!
Yeah I did it in a crappy lil garage. I’m picky about what I want / do. Causes excessive time investments but better results.
@@justooln2 stellar work! do u still have this car> ?
@@KuostA no. Driving an 2011 Sti hatch as my DD these days.
What brand of phenolic spacers did you use? I hope not Grimmspeed because that is what I am planing on buying.
Don, good to know about the Phenolic spacers softening up. I am working on a very mildly tuned 2009 I plan on leaving the motor stock in, but had considered adding mild 256 cams in rather than upgrading the VF52 turbo. With a 256 I can run stock springs and my tune will accommodate it. Would you add cams or a bigger turbo based on blowing up your motor and rebuilding?
Lovely noise just a sound of true intimacy 😎😍
Not for everyone that's for sure. I'm in that's 110%.
Funny some people's comments. Cams. Stock turbo this and that...
Obviously they know much better than you do. 😂 Just invite some of them for your next project to see how many master tuners will turn up if any...
Love the work and I appreciate good content. Love and kindness all the way from Sydney Australia
@urtedex 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX. you slap the wrx heads on to the STI EJ257 Block, and what do you have?? Just like the title says... 05 WRX STI Hybrid
I honestly can not remember what brand they were. I would recommend asking them what torque they suggest.
I just started on my 70 chevelle build. Once the chassis and body are finished. Ill be throwing in a 355 w/ 4l80e. While I work the bugs out of the car, ill be building a twin turbo fully forged 454 bb. A little excessive, but I've dreamed about that build since I was a kid. Building it for Sunday shows and autocross.
Do u have killerB sump yet? Stock sump breaks in half i swear to god. Its known issue and just happened to me 2 months ago. Hence my new motor.. Oem replacement long block from subaru. I did blouch 18gxt
What cams did you use since it a hybrid?
Do the bc 272's sti cams fit?
+Niko Partida Yes, the B.C. 272 worked just fine. I had the heads machined to match the compression chamber, upgraded springs and titanium retainers.
+Don Love do you know if the Tomei expreme EL'S will fit the block? I have an sti oil pan and I'm not sure if the clearence is good enough
Are you running a STI block or standard 2.0? I stayed with unequal length just for the sound. I wasnt planning to run this at its max. I believe I used a standard 2.0 oil pan but honestly cant remember now.
+Don Love 2.5 sti block with ported 2.0 head
I am not sure if the STI cams fit, knowing that the sti have variable valving would lead me to believe that no they dont fit.
Hello Friend.
I installed a GSC S2 camshafts to my 2011 STI.
After traveling about 500 km, he began to lose oil.
I changed the camshafts seals, but it's still losing.
What should I do?
P.S: My english don not good
Giovanni Mauricio Fuentes Álvarez You have to figure out where you are losing the oil, burning it or leaking? If leaking, where? If burning, why?
I'll check the valve cover
how much power did u make with this build ? or what 1/4 mile times did u do ? or 0-60 ?
Marlon Dueck never ran on a strip nor did I take it to a dyno.
I ran it on the low side of build at 8500 rpm w around 450 hp.
I built it to hold 600 at 9k rotatiums. I build stuff to my desire. Not really measuring pecker length.
Mr Love's Garage man that's sweet , what kind of oil pump did u run to meet the needs of oil pressure for hi rpms ? I'm wondering cause I'm also doing a hybrid swap , with forged bottom end and upgrading the whole 2.0 valve train and matching it to the 2.5 bore
Honestly don't remember. Any time i have the bottom end open on any engine, I change and upgrade the oil pump. either higher pressure, or higher volume. According the what that build needs. I will be building an LQ4 to NA 500 hp for my 53 truck I am currently building as a daily driver / custom rod.
I love the description brother!!!
I was just thinking that I should do a cold start up video and a hot start up video to show the sound differences. It's a noisy engine, injectors pistons etc. but way quieter once at temp.
I just want to know how you got a strut tower bar to clear that gigantic intercooler, lol. Sounds awesome!
Joshua Messier it was titanium. Super light and rigid but also thin on the horizontal plain.
Mr Love's Garage, oh, nice. Well, it looks badass. I realize this is an old video. Lol
Joshua Messier I'll be posting my new build as it happens. Just purchased a 53 Chevy truck.
I'm at 8000 miles now, I had to pull the oil pan and replace the gasket. I removed the phenolic spacers between the intake and tgvs. The phenolic softened and caused massive vac/boost leaks. I do have something going on with the oil pressure now though, I think it might be with the turbo though.
did you have to get the heads rechambered? want to build one for mine
Honestly don't remember. I don't believe so.
Gavin G You also got the option of getting JE Pistons. they make a forged piston that is custom made for hybrid applications without having to rechamber. I'm trying to figure out what I want to do too...
haha, sounds N/A with rod knock....exactly like my EJ223 before I swapped it
Props to you, great sub
Hey what intercooler do you have on there?
It's a stock location oversize. Honestly it's been so long I can't tell you who made it. It's probably on the build sheet. I keep records of all parts. If you get an eBay Chinese special. Make sure it's heavy gage and well built.
@justooln2 ROFL I'm such an idiot i read everything but "hybrid" which u actually misspelled lol. I like the lope though. I have an 06 STI :))
good luck on no piston slap if that was first start up setting the rings is no joke hope its lasts good job
Dude, Shatner's the shit why else. I actually never realized that. I'm going to say its because it was a long weekend and I really had nothing to say.
That is not an STI just a wrx dude
Damn man, it's beautiful!
I just pulled my oil pan & pick up tube. Everything is ok so far. I am aware it's an issue w modified H4's. about the piston clatter. Holy hell I hate that. Between my pistons and the 900cc injectors 99% of people think its a POS sloppy engine. I do have plans on making a cold start up / hot start up video for sound comparison.
sicknesss
love it man
is this a joke?stock turbo in stock location sitting stock top mount intercooler,looking at this engine it's bone stock,I doubt this car does not even have a external waste gate
Bru do you even car. I've built two 4 banger turbos 400+ hp daily drivers. Neither of them had FMIC or external waste gates. The 4G63 never had any internals modified. And good troll jackass.
@urtedex Yeah, I didnt realize I misspelled it until just now. it happens.
Nate Diaz 😂😂
not "spewing crap" but it kinda sounds like a diesel
Are you meaning the cam lope or the piston slap? Billet pistons are noisy until the reach final size after heating up. My Camaro pistons are noisy sometimes too.
+Don Love I think it's the combination of both especially at the end where it really sounds like a diesel
I hear what you mean. Keep in mind this is a brand new built engine running 980cc injectors with a stock fuel map. So the ROM was all out of tune for the build. I was please that it started up as quick as it did and the fact that the damn thing even ran. It was pouring fuel in. I can say it was way less (clanky) sounding once the engine heated up.
An over sized TMIC. Dont remember the brand.
Why are you talking like William Shatner?
an sti tmic would make you pull more power i think. That tmic looks like ebay