An Honest Cardo Packtalk Edge Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Take a look at all the CARDO Motorcycle Bluetooth Systems and see which one is best for you. Like I said, I really like the Cardo Packtalk Edge over the rest. It all really depends on you and your budget/use case. ddfm.me/cardo
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Take a look at all the CARDO Motorcycle Bluetooth Systems and see which one is best for you. Like I said, I really like the Cardo Packtalk Edge over the rest. It all really depends on you and your budget/use case. ddfm.me/cardo & use code DDTF for a discount!
Hey Dan. I noticed the discount code doesn’t work on Cardo’s website. It just says code is not applicable, Any thoughts on that?
The discount only works for the packtalk bold
Bought from local retailer with Christmas sale for $311.96 - $80 bonus (helmet purchase of over $200) = $231.96 + tax. Also got a $25 gift card for future purchase. Sweet deal! Nice upgrade from Packtalk Slim for new lid.
Honestly speaking, after using the pack talk bold for a few years, its totally worth it. Durable, reliable, insane battery life, and the ability to communicate directly with fellow riders has saved some of my friends from accidents. The only thing I do not like is the speakers. They are not the best quality, but I swapped them out for Iasus XSound 2.1 speakers for like 40 bucks. Its absolutely worth the money if you ride frequently.
The edge speakers are pretty solid.
The speakers on the edge are definitely lacking. I’ll look into upgrading since I’m an audiophile and I can’t stand poor quality when it comes to music lmao.
@@FrauStormm Which did you go with?
I just got the edge today and new helmet. I love it. For what I get I'm happy with the jbl speakers. I know as an audiophile I will never truly get audiophile sound quality on a motorcycle. So the jbl is perfect for me with the edge.
@@MarkIrwin02any bass at all?
Hey Dan I just wanted to let you know that i pass my msg course today and got my license thanks to you I been watching your videos and it help me a lot keep doing a great job !!!!!
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i bought the Edge and i love it. totally worth !!
1 "issue" -> the Mesh 2.0 can add Bolds to the group but you cannot join a Bold group.
so if you join ppl with a few Bold groups these have to be remade ... which is a pain for the first time.
once setup its hasslefree !!
When you say remade, is that like relinking everyone before a ride? Will it still be a mesh link tho?
@@mustbescud yes - basically the edge becomes the leader but it will be bold mesh standard. The edge comes with a newer mesh standard but will trim down in oder to be compatible with the bolds
@@eidinbateman i see, ty
I think this has been corrected in a firmware update.
Literally got this from my wife yesterday as a birthday gift. Installing today after work.
Just bought mine today when I was expecting to buy a Bold. Spendy but worth it. Although I noticed my music skipping and lagging at first for a while. Wish the audio quality was better, although it does get loud, but I called a buddy while riding and he couldn’t hear any wind noise whatsoever.
I have a similar issue. Try getting your setting the way you want while it's on and connected to the app on your phone. Then turn it off, clear out all apps on your phone. Turn it back on and should work. Something about using the app and then going to any audio messes it up.
After having the Sena 20S for the last couple of years and I ride in a group, I decided to try the Cardo Edge. I'm going to give it a try. I ride with a passenger, so I bought the pair. I am looking forward to seeing how well they connect to each other and how well they sound while riding. Stay tuned for my updates.
Updates?
Yeah update
Update? :D
Update
Update!
Amazon's pricing for the Cardo Packtalk Edge changes everyday. Crazy but true. I checked for pricing for several days and when the Edge was offered for $314 - I grabbed one. Some days it's much higher priced. Today (I just checked) the Edge is $370. So, I recommend waiting and checking for a few days.
Packtalk black on close out sale rn, best deal out there
I am a new rider and rarely ride with others. I bought the Spirit HD and really like the balance of features vs price. I did buy some leather ear cushions to isolate the sound a little better, but could have probably done without.
I upgraded from the Cardo G4 to the Packtalk edge this year. I’ve had two rides with the edge and quite a few with the G4. The Edge is a definite huge upgrade. Yesterday i was able to experience using the edge while my wife used the G4 and it worked flawlessly. I was able to use the app during the ride and i am truly blown away with how well it worked. My set up is as follows: 2013 BMW K1600 GTL, Packtalk edge, Tunai firefly, iPhone, Cardo G4. With this set up i was able to play music through the bike’s speakers or my helmet. I could also communicate with my wife via Bluetooth and go right back to my music. I never lost connection and i could hear everything clearly!!! I ran into one snag which had me befuddled before the ride.
I had turned on the edge and i was trying to use the app. The phone had paired to my edge but every time I went to use the app it said no device found. After about 45 minutes I decided to pair it again for the fifth time only this time I realized that there was two edge units in my Bluetooth section of my iPhone. It was then that i decided to “forget” one of the Bluetooth devices and that was the fix!!!! From then on, it was smooth sailing!!!!!
Hi Dan,
Great review.
Minor correction, the Packtalk Bold is waterproof as well.
Keep it up. Nice job!
Ride safe.
Great review Dan, I'm in the UK and am decided on cardo but need to decide which one, as I generally ride alone. A clue of mates want to start biking next year so I'm thinking bold or edge. I like your style and straight talk so am newly subscribed. Thanks for or your efforts and a great channel 👍
Hey Dan I’ve loved watching your vids for 2 years and I have finally as of today passed my MSF course, thank you for all your help and getting me into this awesome world much love brother! Keep up the great work
2 people in our group have the Uclear motion infinity...is there a way for the Cardo to link up with them as another friend with a Cardo couldn't figure out how to connect with them. They ended up riding with 2 seperate comms.
I had the packtalk version that was BEFORE the bold and I enjoyed it immensely. Was able to listen to music and able to take calls while I was actively riding.
I got mine on Cyber Monday and quite honestly it is really worth every dollar! I thought it was gimmicky but nooooo, it really rocks! Kudos Cardo!
I just bought a trio of Packtalk Edge units from Fortnine (Canadians only) for 20% off which was a good deal. At first install I did not find the sound very good but as I discovered, the sound quality and volume you hear varies MASSIVELY depending on where the speakers are positioned. The cut-outs in our helmet liners for the speakers were not anywhere close to being in the right position but a bit of playing around with the various pads included with the Cardo unit allowed me to reposition the speakers to a point where I would say the overall sound quality is very decent given their size. Installed in 2 x HJC RHPA 11 and 1 x AGV K6 Helmets. The latter was a pain as the main helmet liner is a one piece affair.
This couldn't be more true. These speakers need more of a sealing-cushion on them to mate the speakers to the riders' ears. Sure, we don't want to deafen ourselves of our surrounding ambient sound but even the most basic and cheap of over-ear headphone manufacturers have had this figured out for a long time and the helmet coms manufacturers are not considering this at all. When the speakers are properly positioned/have an acoustic seal to the riders' ear, the rider doesn't need to turn the com system volume up nearly as high and it sounds tremendously better and this is why I have a pair of sabotaged $20 over-ear headphones soldered into my current coms system and modified into my helmet, the sound is nothing shy of incredible compared to how these coms systems come out of the box.
An honest review - you’ve never even used the unit. I get you’ve used the previous generation and like Cardo, but how can you recommend it (or not) having not even used it? For the record, I actually have the Edge and love it but don’t know why this review should influence anybody to buy it.
Ordered the Cardo Freecom 2X...reason is, I don't really need to connect to multiple riders..Just phone, listen to music and comm. with my wife when I take her out. Great review!!
Perfect system for your needs! You'll love it
Been watching videos about cardo and sena and still on the fence which way to go. Ride alone most the time but on occasion ride with others that have both. Suggestion?
Also. Anyone know if you can record your audio from one of moto vlogging or do you still have to install a second mic ?
I'm really glad you mentioned the speakers while wearing ear plugs. Thanks!
I got my edge a couple of months ago. Love it. The voice activation is great.
I just fitted this to my open face scooter 3/4 helmet. The standard 40mm speakers sound great on a “open helmet” easy to set up too.
I will be getting the second helmet kits so I can use it on my daily helmet
Another note - If you had a previous Cardo setup on a helmet, the velcro already in use can be re-used.
2 weeks ago I purchased a Sena 50R a week later had to return would not connect to internet for firmware updates and would shut down after 2 minutes. I returned and got a 50S same exact issues spoke to Sena customer service and was advised to return and exchange for another it had a fault with the circuitry. I advised them I would not be exchanging for another Sena. I exchanged for the CARDO PACK TALK EDGE very easy firmware update over the air (that was outstanding) unit works perfect should have gone with Cardo to start with would have saved myself several headaches. I highly recommend the Cardo product. Ps cycle gear was awesome with there customer service I would also recommend them to.
Lol dude the chinese v6 intercoms work like a charm! Been using them on group rides for years!! Save your money guys!
@@canedewey756 what's up with the racism dude?
You've convinced me Dan - will buy this unit in January sales. Plus these are a US brand I believe & units made in Ukraine. No Chinese c**p!
Also, I had some molds taken of my ears & had some ear defenders made. Used them 3 days ago on 2 1/2 hour ride & wind noise completely gone. Brilliant & so much better than foam type ear-plugs.
If you need isn’t getting it yet, get the packtalk black on sale right now. Super cheap compared to it’s original 388 price point.
Hey!
im so confused the more im reading / watching videos , ...
the question of all questions: CARDO SENA
My choice falls between:
- CARDO Packtalk BOLD
- CARDO Packtalk Edge
- SENA 30K
- SENA 50R
- SENA 50S
Would be great if you or the community could help me
Thanks & Regards,
Benny
Just started watching… I’m using the FS1 pro right now it was only $80 it works pretty well for the price… let’s see if your video makes me wanna upgrade I’ll update!
So if you criticized it would you ever have gotten another thing from Cardo?
I had a pack talk bold and can’t find it. So I went with the black. Has upgrades and works great. I like that it clicks right into the cradle of the bold. I already have the JBL 45 mm speakers. I literally hooked it up in 10 sec. I got it from revzilla for $235! A LOT CHEAPER than $389! The every year hook up to your computer for upgrades is not a big deal. The black is waterproof too!
Just picked one up - Upgraded from the Spirit HD. Ton better sound from the JBL speakers. I just wish they'd allow more presets for the FM radio.
Great review. Very informative. My only question is it looks to be very easy to put on-take off of the mounting plate. How secure do you feel this would hold up in an impact? I really like the feature of hands free 911 calling if injured but would be nervous during a crash it could become disconnected. Any thoughts on this?
I know you asked this question a year ago, but you want stuff like this to disconnect in case of a crash. Nothing worse than the packtalk gripping something when all you should do is slide with your helmet, you don't want to introduce anymore stresses or strains on your head.
I like your content but this is more of an endorsement video than a review, I would have liked to hear some criticism and things you’d like to see improved, things it can’t do yet or whatever. I can look at the site for all the features but to hear your experiences with it, the good the bad and the ugly is valuable information.
The only thing I’m frustrated with is the inability to mesh connect with other brand headsets. You talk about how important it is to be able to communicate with other riders yet we can’t when we all don’t have the same brand. So, in my opinion, the CB still ranks way better for bike to bike communication. Any CB can talk to any other CB.
my biggest complain is that wind noise triggers communication from the wife riding in the back. no changes in settings help much. it cuts down music volume because it thinks she's talking. updated software, replaced units, mics, even helmets and it still isn't great.
Cool video mate. I already have a set of pactalk bold systems and from what you said the edge system will connect to the bold so I will look to invest in their latest system
Pack talk bold is waterproof as well. Never mind the marketing talk. How does the sound compared to the bold. My guess not much.
hi Dan, do you recommend putting paint protection film on helmet?
Bro your sponsored by them it’s more of a paid review.
At least he stated all that in the first few minutes
He literally said that. He isn’t hiding it. Also he seems like a really honest guy trying to help people be more safe on the road. I don’t think he is the type of person to sell his soul for the little amount of lonely he is making off this video. If he didn’t like it I bet he wouldn’t be sponsored by them.
He’s paid to do the reveiw but he chose the product and doesn’t have to be this honest
@@Day-vg1bh The dude literally said it’s expensive, then followed it with, “I’ll probably get in trouble for saying that.”
Obviously, the implies that he can’t be as honest as you’re assuming. If he was honest and didn’t like the system, then Cardo would no longer sponsor him. Why would they send him a product just for him to not suggest it?
@@waled121 If his only goal was to make money he wouldn’t have mentioned the price at all lol not like he’s forced to record videos, he’s being a very legit and honest guy, people just hate to see someone make money even if they’re helping people out
Cute review from behind a sesk. Million dollar question: Does it work? Does it get the advertised range? Thank you...
my favorite thing about the Edge is being able to hear THE STREET LIGHTS 🤣👍
Good honest review but I wish you would addressed the real life range between 2 units. Sure, they say 1 mile, but is it really?
now review a sena 50s or 50r
Hey Dan. What earplugs do you recommend for hearing protection?.
With enough caffeine I too can hear streetlights
Awesome review. I'm giving away one of these on my channel! It's an awesome unit.
I just got a cardi edge. The microphone is made by a child in China for less than a cent a day, the speakers are too quite, and the buttons are overly confusing. Also the voice control only kinda works.
That is an honest review.
how to sound when compared to Packtalk Black and Edge/NEO is it the same?. Because the speaker is Black 45mm while the Edge/Neo is 40mm
I have both, 45 mm is waaaayyyyy better
Nice video and thank you for that. I own 2020 Goldwing. I do like the Edge. It seems solid and easy to set up and use. However, with the Goldwing, it's tricky. The mating, every time you start the bike could be a challenge. Are you aware of such on our bikes? Any tips to make it work good on every start? I want to get a set, but before I spend so much, want to make sure.
Which beard comb do you use? Mine is has the tongs too far apart, looking for something finer.
Whats stopping anyone from comming up along side you & just taking it from your helmet ? Before pushing down the little clip would make that arkward..
I have a plain HJC I-90 modular helmet. If I get pactalk edge, do I need the helmet kit, or does it already have a wires boom mic, and speakers?
With this unit when communication between driver (rider) and passenger, should there be a delay between speach vs hearing?
why not just bluetooth earbuds? You get hearing protection + audio + microphone in one tiny package. Most people do not need to communicate with other riders, and if you do then you can create a group call on WhatsApp/Discord/etc.
I've done that before. It hurts my ears after awhile. I prefer foam ear plugs and the thin jbl speakers now.
@@DanDanTheFireman ah yes I had the same experience. It is very difficult to find any bluetooth earbuds with a low enough profile which won't hurt under a helmet. I'll try out the speakers, thank you
Having speakers in your helmet is just an amazing game changer. The whole system fits most helmets with ease. You barely notice it’s there unlike earbuds inside your helmet.
can i connect to my buddies with Sena
Great Videos. Where is your shop in Tucson?
DanDan I have the freecom+4 and I have to keep calling intercom because it shuts off if we don't speak for 30 seconds, this is a pain and takes away from the safety factor. Does the edge do this as well, or does it stay connected?
I have had the freecom4+ for 5 years and love it. But it’s time to go mesh
This video dialed emergency services in my smart home 😮😂
Hi Dan, when using this duo edge packet with the passenger, why is there delay when use intercom? I am already using 2.7 version update, and still almost 1 second delay between driver and passenger. Is there any solution ?
I just tried the Promo cod and it says "Sorry, this promo code is not applicable to selected products." So much for that.
Thanks Dan Dan 😁
Great review and information! I tried to use your discount code, but it doesn't seem to work. Does the link already apply it?
My JBL speakers that came with my Cardo Kinda suck in my opinion.
Can you actually hear anything when riding with this? I bought one of these blutooth systems and i literally cant hear anything over the engine of my bike. And i ride a 200cc with a custom exhaust. So its loud but not as loud as faster bikes. Before buying this i wanna know if its actually loud enough to hear anything? Does it even have active noise cancelling for that price? Im about to buy some bose earbuds and just be done with it lol
Hopefully it has less aerodynamic drag. I have a Shoei RF1200 and 90% of the wind noise comes from the drag on my Packtalk Bold.
As a disclaimer, i use NoNoise ear pro because my bike is straight piped and loud as fuck.
It's fairly aerodynamic and does not cause a noticable increase in air related noise or pull on the helmet. With the speakers playing (i can hear them perfectly clearly as if i were not using ear pro) i can't hear wind noise at all and the engine is a low growl.
This is based on my experience at speeds around 60 mph on a 92 honda shadow VT600 VLX.
Been using the Packtalk Slim for the last few months and honestly not impressed at all with the rider to rider communication. Both of us have a Slim and he rarely can hear me through static or break in communication once we get to speed. Granted I am riding on a Panigale V2 with full Akra exhaust but still very difficult to make out voice once we're moving.
Is the Edge an improvement over the Slim?
Could also be related to your helmet or the mic you are using
You had me sold till you tried to sell us on the throw away packaging and a sticker.....🤣 paid advertising.
After your mutiny with the phone mounts i doubt if this is an honest review
Once you said “I’ll probably get in trouble for saying that“.(regarding price) I checked out.
Cardo and sena are way overpriced. No reason for the top of the lines of cardo or sena to be over 250 and now a subscription based one? Thieves.
Does the promo code not work with the Edge? Cardo's website not allowing it, only with anything else
Well that is weird... I'll chat with them. If you find a good deal on Amazon or elsewhere, I'd do that.
Yo @DanDanTheFireman thanks for this review. Any thoughts on the Edge's magnetic mount failing in a crash or even just a helmet drop? I love that it's slimmer but this question has stopped me from buying it yet.
its a rare earth metal magnet. Its incredibly strong to the point that i need 2 hands and my wife holding the helmet to force it off via brute force (straight vertical pull from the holder).
However, it was cleverly designed with a ramp in the holder. Your suppose to slide the edge forward on the ramp. This gives you the leverage nessisary to remove it one handed. It still is not easy and it takes the whole hand to slide it then at the end of the ramp the pull drops off enough that it can be easily removed. You can see here at 3:05 this is exactly how he removes it using forward force, not upward force. The sides and back are lipped so it'll catch and hold the edge. If you wreck hard enough the holder breaks allowing the edge to fly off the sides or rear, i doubt you'll be too worried about your cardo at that point.
The holder itself is held on by a strong glue. Personally, i think the glue is the weak point especially in texas heat. The magnet will hold on long after the glue gives up.
It’s not only held by the magnet but also it snaps into place.
I just bought the edge and I've been having trouble with the voice commands but otherwise it works great
I am not sure if the Edge likes wind noise too much. Do you use it on a 3/4 or half helmet? Also, make sure the yellow arrow is facing your lips. Moreover, the mic must be in the center of your mouth and close to it.
Didn’t they just come out with the pack talk Neo though?
The neo is a step down from the edge. Basically no magnet mount and cannot charge and talk at same time with the neo.
Looks awesome 👍👍😎😎
Your link doesn't work.
Nice Headset dude ;)
Will this pair with other manufacturers?
Yes
My battery life is rubbish, 8 hours on both our headsets, no radio no music playing either, not happy
Only thing stopping me from buying this is the fact i do not know if it would work in a Bell Bullitt.
Take the cushions on the inside off; if you see grooves and indents, it should work, I believe it also works even if there is no pre-made grooves for speaker systems. If your still unsure I'm sure you could message Cardo or Bell and ask them if it's compatible or not
@@Reaping_Matster the issue is that the one pad is actually molded to the helmet. There is No gap for the hook to slide in
@@dantediss1 If the problem is how to get the holder for the edge to stay on, there is a sticky pad you can use instead.
@@Reaping_Matster ahhhhhhhhhhh i thought that was just a backup for the hook. Thank you for that. Guess i need to start saving up then. Thank you
@@dantediss1 no problem
BT-S2 is still the best for $100 and you get 2 of them.
If you can hear street lights, you've been riding too long. Or you really did get a concussion wreck.
I usually prefer dishonest reviews...Any recommendations? Derp.
It sucks that it comes with a 40mm speaker instead of the 45mm
Nice saan maka order ng cardo...?
After having taken your advice that Cardo was s good choice. I now regret it. after just 8 months my Cardo unit is dead and customer support is just short of worthless.
Why did Nikki stop riding?
Day 1 with the Edge : Honestly im massively disappointed ! The sound from the 40mm JBL is so god damn poor, how is that even possible is beyond me. The Radio is trash, poor reception, even with RDS on. Voice commands...some of them dosnt work at all no matter how and what i do, the others that do work(when they do) are hit and miss... im still on my first day, giving it another day to fiddle around with it to see if i can improve this..if not, this is certainly going back to.
I'm from Brazil here in my country haven't packtalk...
I was a dummy and bought a Sena piece of $hit. Don't waste your money on them. I'll be ordering one of the Cardo units in the very near future.
I mean these systems (Cardo, Sena) in general are all kinda trash. They do the job and I've been using the Cardo packtalk black for a year now. The main issue is they are so buggy for how much you pay for it. My buddies and I gave up on mesh or conference pairing after it would just disconnect, never come back or just take forever to have everyone try to sync up again. Two way works like 80% of the time and at least with this you can still listen to music or gps directions. I've had bluetooth stop working needed a reset of the device or phone to get working again and the list goes on, just a pain! I work in IT and in no way am I tech illiterate. In comparison my bluetooth earbuds (sadly they dont fit with the helmet) pair and sync as soon as you take it out of the case, they never disconnect or have these problems so its not just the limits of bluetooth. It's kinda sad motorcyclist dont have a seamless device to just work and dont need to fidget with when you are hot in the middle of nowhere trying to reconnect to your friend again after it decided to fail.
Probably your phone. I've had zero issues with my freecom 4+
@@Max.527 does the the “volume wheel” get messed up by the jacked shoulder pad or collar? Many people have this complain and made me nervous on getting the 4+
@@rubenassandri9389 absolutely it does. Solution was switching over to the 3m tape solution and attaching it to the helmet higher than the clip version. I switched to the spirit HD though. Louder and better bass and cheaper. Unless you ride with lots of people and need the comms.
@@Max.527 thanks Max for the prompt reply. I was also looking at the Freecom 4 (I believe is an older model?) because it has a slick and slim design without any wheel….. but maybe the spirit HD is the best product for me. I use the intercom just for music and the add phone call……
@@rubenassandri9389 the spirit HD is cheap and work really well. You can still use intercom with one other rider. Newer Bluetooth and USB c
Jesus loves you bro :)
I love my freecom because I ride alone haha
“It’s not a paid review”
Except your kissing their ass the entire video. “I’m probably going to get in trouble for saying that.” Why? Is Cardo going to send you an angry letter? I thought your review was honest. If it’s honest then you should say whatever you want about the product.
This is just an 18-minute commercial.
Ok bro since your not upset with the price please let me know when your going to send to me for free.
I purchased the freecom2 duel set......received today. installed in helmet- mic wire broke,
very easier I might add too, ordered another, just the part with the wires.
The app,, Pain in the F'ing ass!
One of my emails said I needed to register my cardo for the warranty.
I searched cardo website, I searched the internet. Could NOT find anything on this subject. There is no phone on cardo website OR any contact information.
WHERE IN HELL AM I TO REGISTER WHEN CARDO IS HIDING THE REGISTRATION PAGE(S) !!!
WHY WOULD CARDO HIDE THIS FROM ITS CUSTOMERS??????????
Maybe this is why you hide the registration caz yall know shit going to break before you can register it.
I am one PISSED OFF CUSTOMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck getting tech support or any support from Cardo. No phone to call, and do not answer emails
That's crazy price ain't no way..
These things are way over priced, but it all depends on what you want and need, if you must talk to 15 people at a time OK but most all of these various Bluetooth intercom use the same 5.1 BT system, even cheaper ones, in truth it comes down to the build quality and list of features, a cheap one will do the basics, phone connection, music and two person intercom
I might look into a lower model to communicate with my passenger. Problem is, I don't ride with people that wear helmets ( I know, dum dums) so I don't need a large range one.
Good thinking. I think the Freecom units are great. New tech too.
@@DanDanTheFireman Nice. Looks like the Freecom's updated the BT version and have OTA updates. Freecom 4x looks right for me.