Take a look at all the CARDO Motorcycle Bluetooth Systems and see which one is best for you. Like I said, I really like the Cardo Packtalk Edge over the rest. It all really depends on you and your budget/use case. ddfm.me/cardo & use code DDTF for a discount!
Bought from local retailer with Christmas sale for $311.96 - $80 bonus (helmet purchase of over $200) = $231.96 + tax. Also got a $25 gift card for future purchase. Sweet deal! Nice upgrade from Packtalk Slim for new lid.
Hey Dan I’ve loved watching your vids for 2 years and I have finally as of today passed my MSF course, thank you for all your help and getting me into this awesome world much love brother! Keep up the great work
2 people in our group have the Uclear motion infinity...is there a way for the Cardo to link up with them as another friend with a Cardo couldn't figure out how to connect with them. They ended up riding with 2 seperate comms.
Shout-out to Daniel. Recently started taking motorcycle driving lessons (Belgium, we have stricter requirements) but spent many more hours watching your movies to get prepped for those motor miles. Keep it up man!
Honestly speaking, after using the pack talk bold for a few years, its totally worth it. Durable, reliable, insane battery life, and the ability to communicate directly with fellow riders has saved some of my friends from accidents. The only thing I do not like is the speakers. They are not the best quality, but I swapped them out for Iasus XSound 2.1 speakers for like 40 bucks. Its absolutely worth the money if you ride frequently.
The speakers on the edge are definitely lacking. I’ll look into upgrading since I’m an audiophile and I can’t stand poor quality when it comes to music lmao.
I just got the edge today and new helmet. I love it. For what I get I'm happy with the jbl speakers. I know as an audiophile I will never truly get audiophile sound quality on a motorcycle. So the jbl is perfect for me with the edge.
Hey Dan I just wanted to let you know that i pass my msg course today and got my license thanks to you I been watching your videos and it help me a lot keep doing a great job !!!!!
Been watching videos about cardo and sena and still on the fence which way to go. Ride alone most the time but on occasion ride with others that have both. Suggestion? Also. Anyone know if you can record your audio from one of moto vlogging or do you still have to install a second mic ?
i bought the Edge and i love it. totally worth !! 1 "issue" -> the Mesh 2.0 can add Bolds to the group but you cannot join a Bold group. so if you join ppl with a few Bold groups these have to be remade ... which is a pain for the first time. once setup its hasslefree !!
@@mustbescud yes - basically the edge becomes the leader but it will be bold mesh standard. The edge comes with a newer mesh standard but will trim down in oder to be compatible with the bolds
I upgraded from the Cardo G4 to the Packtalk edge this year. I’ve had two rides with the edge and quite a few with the G4. The Edge is a definite huge upgrade. Yesterday i was able to experience using the edge while my wife used the G4 and it worked flawlessly. I was able to use the app during the ride and i am truly blown away with how well it worked. My set up is as follows: 2013 BMW K1600 GTL, Packtalk edge, Tunai firefly, iPhone, Cardo G4. With this set up i was able to play music through the bike’s speakers or my helmet. I could also communicate with my wife via Bluetooth and go right back to my music. I never lost connection and i could hear everything clearly!!! I ran into one snag which had me befuddled before the ride. I had turned on the edge and i was trying to use the app. The phone had paired to my edge but every time I went to use the app it said no device found. After about 45 minutes I decided to pair it again for the fifth time only this time I realized that there was two edge units in my Bluetooth section of my iPhone. It was then that i decided to “forget” one of the Bluetooth devices and that was the fix!!!! From then on, it was smooth sailing!!!!!
After having the Sena 20S for the last couple of years and I ride in a group, I decided to try the Cardo Edge. I'm going to give it a try. I ride with a passenger, so I bought the pair. I am looking forward to seeing how well they connect to each other and how well they sound while riding. Stay tuned for my updates.
Just bought mine today when I was expecting to buy a Bold. Spendy but worth it. Although I noticed my music skipping and lagging at first for a while. Wish the audio quality was better, although it does get loud, but I called a buddy while riding and he couldn’t hear any wind noise whatsoever.
I have a similar issue. Try getting your setting the way you want while it's on and connected to the app on your phone. Then turn it off, clear out all apps on your phone. Turn it back on and should work. Something about using the app and then going to any audio messes it up.
Great review Dan, I'm in the UK and am decided on cardo but need to decide which one, as I generally ride alone. A clue of mates want to start biking next year so I'm thinking bold or edge. I like your style and straight talk so am newly subscribed. Thanks for or your efforts and a great channel 👍
Good vid Dan. I bought the Packtalk Bold JBL duo three years ago and had nothing but problems with using the two units together. My wife and I ride two-up and wanted to share the same playlist off of my side, but still able to talk via bluetooth/mesh when needed. Did several firmware updates with Cardo after reaching out to them a few times, and the music sharing would work one out of five times if I connected the two units from the headsets. It never worked from their app! So I basically have two (expensive) Cardo's sitting in my desk drawer since. Hopefully they have stepped up their game in their "music sharing and communicating at the same time" game. So post on the "Music sharing" when you get a chance as I'm curious if they've done anything there.
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I do not have my own bike yet - I am renting one, but already have the premium adventure helmet and just installed this Cardo and I can not wait for the next trip which will take place next weekend :)
Amazon's pricing for the Cardo Packtalk Edge changes everyday. Crazy but true. I checked for pricing for several days and when the Edge was offered for $314 - I grabbed one. Some days it's much higher priced. Today (I just checked) the Edge is $370. So, I recommend waiting and checking for a few days.
An honest review - you’ve never even used the unit. I get you’ve used the previous generation and like Cardo, but how can you recommend it (or not) having not even used it? For the record, I actually have the Edge and love it but don’t know why this review should influence anybody to buy it.
I had the packtalk version that was BEFORE the bold and I enjoyed it immensely. Was able to listen to music and able to take calls while I was actively riding.
I have the Pack talk Bold. Very sturdy unit. I was in an accident and hit the ground with this installed. A chunk of the case broke off but it still works perfectly. Amazing!
I just bought it and I was checking if the volume increases/decreases with a change in speed. I didn't notice any change. Is this something that needs to be activated in the app? I tested it when streaming music
Ordered the Cardo Freecom 2X...reason is, I don't really need to connect to multiple riders..Just phone, listen to music and comm. with my wife when I take her out. Great review!!
I just bought a trio of Packtalk Edge units from Fortnine (Canadians only) for 20% off which was a good deal. At first install I did not find the sound very good but as I discovered, the sound quality and volume you hear varies MASSIVELY depending on where the speakers are positioned. The cut-outs in our helmet liners for the speakers were not anywhere close to being in the right position but a bit of playing around with the various pads included with the Cardo unit allowed me to reposition the speakers to a point where I would say the overall sound quality is very decent given their size. Installed in 2 x HJC RHPA 11 and 1 x AGV K6 Helmets. The latter was a pain as the main helmet liner is a one piece affair.
This couldn't be more true. These speakers need more of a sealing-cushion on them to mate the speakers to the riders' ears. Sure, we don't want to deafen ourselves of our surrounding ambient sound but even the most basic and cheap of over-ear headphone manufacturers have had this figured out for a long time and the helmet coms manufacturers are not considering this at all. When the speakers are properly positioned/have an acoustic seal to the riders' ear, the rider doesn't need to turn the com system volume up nearly as high and it sounds tremendously better and this is why I have a pair of sabotaged $20 over-ear headphones soldered into my current coms system and modified into my helmet, the sound is nothing shy of incredible compared to how these coms systems come out of the box.
I just fitted this to my open face scooter 3/4 helmet. The standard 40mm speakers sound great on a “open helmet” easy to set up too. I will be getting the second helmet kits so I can use it on my daily helmet
I really like my packtalk bold but it has a problem that has been very annoying. I even contacted Cardo and was emailing back and forth. Then they stopped communicating with me. They may think I am joking but I am not. If a would make a noise, all of a sudden I hear "ok Jerk Off" then It beeps, then goes silent for a few seconds then my music will start again. I have been thinking about getting another brand but these things are too expensive to just try another one.
2 weeks ago I purchased a Sena 50R a week later had to return would not connect to internet for firmware updates and would shut down after 2 minutes. I returned and got a 50S same exact issues spoke to Sena customer service and was advised to return and exchange for another it had a fault with the circuitry. I advised them I would not be exchanging for another Sena. I exchanged for the CARDO PACK TALK EDGE very easy firmware update over the air (that was outstanding) unit works perfect should have gone with Cardo to start with would have saved myself several headaches. I highly recommend the Cardo product. Ps cycle gear was awesome with there customer service I would also recommend them to.
I am a new rider and rarely ride with others. I bought the Spirit HD and really like the balance of features vs price. I did buy some leather ear cushions to isolate the sound a little better, but could have probably done without.
Great review. Very informative. My only question is it looks to be very easy to put on-take off of the mounting plate. How secure do you feel this would hold up in an impact? I really like the feature of hands free 911 calling if injured but would be nervous during a crash it could become disconnected. Any thoughts on this?
I know you asked this question a year ago, but you want stuff like this to disconnect in case of a crash. Nothing worse than the packtalk gripping something when all you should do is slide with your helmet, you don't want to introduce anymore stresses or strains on your head.
Hi Mate Thanks for the great informative video !!.. I’ve got a question for you , I usually ride alone or sometimes 2 up !! So with that in mind What would you Honestly recommend ?, My Biggest Reason for a Headset Is Listening to Music 🎵 !!!. So that’s Super important to me while I’m Riding .. Cheers Mate
I purchased 2 sets of Edge Duo's and 3 of them crapped out, One right out of the box, one after a days use and the third started failing after it's first use. I could hear but not be heard. I did get replacements under warranty but haven't had a chance to use them yet. I have gone thru several Bold's because the USB charging port fails. None of my Sena's have ever failed for any reason. The charging port seems more robust on the Edge. The only reason I can see to purchase the Edge is it's more true Universal Bluetooth. I have several non-cardo/sena systems and it did connect to them. The Edge has an IP rating for it's weatherproofing but the Bold does not.
Hey Dan, we don't care about Cardo...what we want is how you maintain that beard. What beard products do you recommend using. We need a beard product/maintenance video.😅
He literally said that. He isn’t hiding it. Also he seems like a really honest guy trying to help people be more safe on the road. I don’t think he is the type of person to sell his soul for the little amount of lonely he is making off this video. If he didn’t like it I bet he wouldn’t be sponsored by them.
@@Day-vg1bh The dude literally said it’s expensive, then followed it with, “I’ll probably get in trouble for saying that.” Obviously, the implies that he can’t be as honest as you’re assuming. If he was honest and didn’t like the system, then Cardo would no longer sponsor him. Why would they send him a product just for him to not suggest it?
@@waled121 If his only goal was to make money he wouldn’t have mentioned the price at all lol not like he’s forced to record videos, he’s being a very legit and honest guy, people just hate to see someone make money even if they’re helping people out
Do you prefer to use silicon earplugs and use the jbl speakers for sound, or use plugfones connected to the packtalk for sound? The alpine plugs don't dempen enough wind noise for me. I need a solution. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you for the video.
Holy shit! I just had to use my Rescue kit I bought from you to save a fellow rider! I'm definitely glad I had it, and I'm sure the rider I helped appreciated me having it! I wouldn't have had it probably without your constant warning ⚠️ that we need to always carry First Aid ⛑️ with us. Thanks fire man!
Just started watching… I’m using the FS1 pro right now it was only $80 it works pretty well for the price… let’s see if your video makes me wanna upgrade I’ll update!
You've convinced me Dan - will buy this unit in January sales. Plus these are a US brand I believe & units made in Ukraine. No Chinese c**p! Also, I had some molds taken of my ears & had some ear defenders made. Used them 3 days ago on 2 1/2 hour ride & wind noise completely gone. Brilliant & so much better than foam type ear-plugs.
Best sounding system i've had but it took me a month to get a replacement mounting plate when the adhesive started giving up. Came on a slow boat from France.
Cool video mate. I already have a set of pactalk bold systems and from what you said the edge system will connect to the bold so I will look to invest in their latest system
Can you actually hear anything when riding with this? I bought one of these blutooth systems and i literally cant hear anything over the engine of my bike. And i ride a 200cc with a custom exhaust. So its loud but not as loud as faster bikes. Before buying this i wanna know if its actually loud enough to hear anything? Does it even have active noise cancelling for that price? Im about to buy some bose earbuds and just be done with it lol
Hi Dan, when using this duo edge packet with the passenger, why is there delay when use intercom? I am already using 2.7 version update, and still almost 1 second delay between driver and passenger. Is there any solution ?
my biggest complain is that wind noise triggers communication from the wife riding in the back. no changes in settings help much. it cuts down music volume because it thinks she's talking. updated software, replaced units, mics, even helmets and it still isn't great.
I had a pack talk bold and can’t find it. So I went with the black. Has upgrades and works great. I like that it clicks right into the cradle of the bold. I already have the JBL 45 mm speakers. I literally hooked it up in 10 sec. I got it from revzilla for $235! A LOT CHEAPER than $389! The every year hook up to your computer for upgrades is not a big deal. The black is waterproof too!
Hey! im so confused the more im reading / watching videos , ... the question of all questions: CARDO SENA My choice falls between: - CARDO Packtalk BOLD - CARDO Packtalk Edge - SENA 30K - SENA 50R - SENA 50S Would be great if you or the community could help me Thanks & Regards, Benny
Been using the Packtalk Slim for the last few months and honestly not impressed at all with the rider to rider communication. Both of us have a Slim and he rarely can hear me through static or break in communication once we get to speed. Granted I am riding on a Panigale V2 with full Akra exhaust but still very difficult to make out voice once we're moving. Is the Edge an improvement over the Slim?
Nice video and thank you for that. I own 2020 Goldwing. I do like the Edge. It seems solid and easy to set up and use. However, with the Goldwing, it's tricky. The mating, every time you start the bike could be a challenge. Are you aware of such on our bikes? Any tips to make it work good on every start? I want to get a set, but before I spend so much, want to make sure.
DanDan I have the freecom+4 and I have to keep calling intercom because it shuts off if we don't speak for 30 seconds, this is a pain and takes away from the safety factor. Does the edge do this as well, or does it stay connected?
I like your content but this is more of an endorsement video than a review, I would have liked to hear some criticism and things you’d like to see improved, things it can’t do yet or whatever. I can look at the site for all the features but to hear your experiences with it, the good the bad and the ugly is valuable information.
I am looking for something to replace my Sena SRL which I was not at all impressed with (battery shot won't take a charge despite, or maybe because of, not much use). I found a replacement battery but don't want to throw forty bucks at a four year old system I'm not that happy with to begin with. I think I could definately get by with the Freecom 4X. It looks like it has most of the features of the Edge, but for a lot less, and I would never need (or want) to connect with so many riders at once anyway. Not sure why it's warranty is only two years as opposed to three on the Edge. It is also water proof, has BT 5.2, over air updates and so on.
I just got a cardi edge. The microphone is made by a child in China for less than a cent a day, the speakers are too quite, and the buttons are overly confusing. Also the voice control only kinda works. That is an honest review.
One thing still missing - a line-level recording output. Until someone adds that feature, I'll wait. I like the idea of it telling you the battery state, but it's not enough to justify the ugrade over my Bold, an already awesome system..
@@Mike_Jones68 I noticed that, too, on the list DDFN shows. But he mentions the magnetic fixing, the audible battery status, waterproofing, aerodynamics, weight, no aerial,... and if I didn't already hava a Cardo it would probably be the one I'd go for.
I wouldn’t bother with upgrade if you have the bold, I’ve got both and when I use them, no real difference. Both are the best comms systems I’ve used though, so worth buying one of them.
I’m thinking about buying the Cardo Edge dual pack . Do you know if each unit will connect to each persons phone and allow each to listen to their own Fm stations or Sirius station ? It would be great to listen to our preferences and use the intercom system .
@@392Joel I know each unit has a Fm tuner . Just didn’t know if each one would play different stations at the same time .I can get Xm on my radio and phone . We each have the app on our phone .
Yo @DanDanTheFireman thanks for this review. Any thoughts on the Edge's magnetic mount failing in a crash or even just a helmet drop? I love that it's slimmer but this question has stopped me from buying it yet.
its a rare earth metal magnet. Its incredibly strong to the point that i need 2 hands and my wife holding the helmet to force it off via brute force (straight vertical pull from the holder). However, it was cleverly designed with a ramp in the holder. Your suppose to slide the edge forward on the ramp. This gives you the leverage nessisary to remove it one handed. It still is not easy and it takes the whole hand to slide it then at the end of the ramp the pull drops off enough that it can be easily removed. You can see here at 3:05 this is exactly how he removes it using forward force, not upward force. The sides and back are lipped so it'll catch and hold the edge. If you wreck hard enough the holder breaks allowing the edge to fly off the sides or rear, i doubt you'll be too worried about your cardo at that point. The holder itself is held on by a strong glue. Personally, i think the glue is the weak point especially in texas heat. The magnet will hold on long after the glue gives up.
The only thing I’m frustrated with is the inability to mesh connect with other brand headsets. You talk about how important it is to be able to communicate with other riders yet we can’t when we all don’t have the same brand. So, in my opinion, the CB still ranks way better for bike to bike communication. Any CB can talk to any other CB.
Take the cushions on the inside off; if you see grooves and indents, it should work, I believe it also works even if there is no pre-made grooves for speaker systems. If your still unsure I'm sure you could message Cardo or Bell and ask them if it's compatible or not
Take a look at all the CARDO Motorcycle Bluetooth Systems and see which one is best for you. Like I said, I really like the Cardo Packtalk Edge over the rest. It all really depends on you and your budget/use case. ddfm.me/cardo & use code DDTF for a discount!
Hey Dan. I noticed the discount code doesn’t work on Cardo’s website. It just says code is not applicable, Any thoughts on that?
The discount only works for the packtalk bold
Bought from local retailer with Christmas sale for $311.96 - $80 bonus (helmet purchase of over $200) = $231.96 + tax. Also got a $25 gift card for future purchase. Sweet deal! Nice upgrade from Packtalk Slim for new lid.
Hey Dan I’ve loved watching your vids for 2 years and I have finally as of today passed my MSF course, thank you for all your help and getting me into this awesome world much love brother! Keep up the great work
2 people in our group have the Uclear motion infinity...is there a way for the Cardo to link up with them as another friend with a Cardo couldn't figure out how to connect with them. They ended up riding with 2 seperate comms.
Shout-out to Daniel. Recently started taking motorcycle driving lessons (Belgium, we have stricter requirements) but spent many more hours watching your movies to get prepped for those motor miles. Keep it up man!
Succes man!
Literally got this from my wife yesterday as a birthday gift. Installing today after work.
Honestly speaking, after using the pack talk bold for a few years, its totally worth it. Durable, reliable, insane battery life, and the ability to communicate directly with fellow riders has saved some of my friends from accidents. The only thing I do not like is the speakers. They are not the best quality, but I swapped them out for Iasus XSound 2.1 speakers for like 40 bucks. Its absolutely worth the money if you ride frequently.
The edge speakers are pretty solid.
The speakers on the edge are definitely lacking. I’ll look into upgrading since I’m an audiophile and I can’t stand poor quality when it comes to music lmao.
@@FrauStormm Which did you go with?
I just got the edge today and new helmet. I love it. For what I get I'm happy with the jbl speakers. I know as an audiophile I will never truly get audiophile sound quality on a motorcycle. So the jbl is perfect for me with the edge.
@@MarkIrwin02any bass at all?
Hey Dan I just wanted to let you know that i pass my msg course today and got my license thanks to you I been watching your videos and it help me a lot keep doing a great job !!!!!
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Been watching videos about cardo and sena and still on the fence which way to go. Ride alone most the time but on occasion ride with others that have both. Suggestion?
Also. Anyone know if you can record your audio from one of moto vlogging or do you still have to install a second mic ?
i bought the Edge and i love it. totally worth !!
1 "issue" -> the Mesh 2.0 can add Bolds to the group but you cannot join a Bold group.
so if you join ppl with a few Bold groups these have to be remade ... which is a pain for the first time.
once setup its hasslefree !!
When you say remade, is that like relinking everyone before a ride? Will it still be a mesh link tho?
@@mustbescud yes - basically the edge becomes the leader but it will be bold mesh standard. The edge comes with a newer mesh standard but will trim down in oder to be compatible with the bolds
@@eidinbateman i see, ty
I think this has been corrected in a firmware update.
I upgraded from the Cardo G4 to the Packtalk edge this year. I’ve had two rides with the edge and quite a few with the G4. The Edge is a definite huge upgrade. Yesterday i was able to experience using the edge while my wife used the G4 and it worked flawlessly. I was able to use the app during the ride and i am truly blown away with how well it worked. My set up is as follows: 2013 BMW K1600 GTL, Packtalk edge, Tunai firefly, iPhone, Cardo G4. With this set up i was able to play music through the bike’s speakers or my helmet. I could also communicate with my wife via Bluetooth and go right back to my music. I never lost connection and i could hear everything clearly!!! I ran into one snag which had me befuddled before the ride.
I had turned on the edge and i was trying to use the app. The phone had paired to my edge but every time I went to use the app it said no device found. After about 45 minutes I decided to pair it again for the fifth time only this time I realized that there was two edge units in my Bluetooth section of my iPhone. It was then that i decided to “forget” one of the Bluetooth devices and that was the fix!!!! From then on, it was smooth sailing!!!!!
After having the Sena 20S for the last couple of years and I ride in a group, I decided to try the Cardo Edge. I'm going to give it a try. I ride with a passenger, so I bought the pair. I am looking forward to seeing how well they connect to each other and how well they sound while riding. Stay tuned for my updates.
Updates?
Yeah update
Update? :D
Update
Update!
I'm really glad you mentioned the speakers while wearing ear plugs. Thanks!
Just bought mine today when I was expecting to buy a Bold. Spendy but worth it. Although I noticed my music skipping and lagging at first for a while. Wish the audio quality was better, although it does get loud, but I called a buddy while riding and he couldn’t hear any wind noise whatsoever.
I have a similar issue. Try getting your setting the way you want while it's on and connected to the app on your phone. Then turn it off, clear out all apps on your phone. Turn it back on and should work. Something about using the app and then going to any audio messes it up.
I got mine on Cyber Monday and quite honestly it is really worth every dollar! I thought it was gimmicky but nooooo, it really rocks! Kudos Cardo!
Great review Dan, I'm in the UK and am decided on cardo but need to decide which one, as I generally ride alone. A clue of mates want to start biking next year so I'm thinking bold or edge. I like your style and straight talk so am newly subscribed. Thanks for or your efforts and a great channel 👍
What are you using to hear street lights? Interested!😊
Good vid Dan. I bought the Packtalk Bold JBL duo three years ago and had nothing but problems with using the two units together. My wife and I ride two-up and wanted to share the same playlist off of my side, but still able to talk via bluetooth/mesh when needed. Did several firmware updates with Cardo after reaching out to them a few times, and the music sharing would work one out of five times if I connected the two units from the headsets. It never worked from their app! So I basically have two (expensive) Cardo's sitting in my desk drawer since. Hopefully they have stepped up their game in their "music sharing and communicating at the same time" game. So post on the "Music sharing" when you get a chance as I'm curious if they've done anything there.
I do not have my own bike yet - I am renting one, but already have the premium adventure helmet and just installed this Cardo and I can not wait for the next trip which will take place next weekend :)
Amazon's pricing for the Cardo Packtalk Edge changes everyday. Crazy but true. I checked for pricing for several days and when the Edge was offered for $314 - I grabbed one. Some days it's much higher priced. Today (I just checked) the Edge is $370. So, I recommend waiting and checking for a few days.
Packtalk black on close out sale rn, best deal out there
An honest review - you’ve never even used the unit. I get you’ve used the previous generation and like Cardo, but how can you recommend it (or not) having not even used it? For the record, I actually have the Edge and love it but don’t know why this review should influence anybody to buy it.
I had the packtalk version that was BEFORE the bold and I enjoyed it immensely. Was able to listen to music and able to take calls while I was actively riding.
I have the Pack talk Bold. Very sturdy unit. I was in an accident and hit the ground with this installed. A chunk of the case broke off but it still works perfectly. Amazing!
Hi Dan,
Great review.
Minor correction, the Packtalk Bold is waterproof as well.
Keep it up. Nice job!
Ride safe.
I just bought it and I was checking if the volume increases/decreases with a change in speed. I didn't notice any change. Is this something that needs to be activated in the app? I tested it when streaming music
Ordered the Cardo Freecom 2X...reason is, I don't really need to connect to multiple riders..Just phone, listen to music and comm. with my wife when I take her out. Great review!!
Perfect system for your needs! You'll love it
I just bought a trio of Packtalk Edge units from Fortnine (Canadians only) for 20% off which was a good deal. At first install I did not find the sound very good but as I discovered, the sound quality and volume you hear varies MASSIVELY depending on where the speakers are positioned. The cut-outs in our helmet liners for the speakers were not anywhere close to being in the right position but a bit of playing around with the various pads included with the Cardo unit allowed me to reposition the speakers to a point where I would say the overall sound quality is very decent given their size. Installed in 2 x HJC RHPA 11 and 1 x AGV K6 Helmets. The latter was a pain as the main helmet liner is a one piece affair.
This couldn't be more true. These speakers need more of a sealing-cushion on them to mate the speakers to the riders' ears. Sure, we don't want to deafen ourselves of our surrounding ambient sound but even the most basic and cheap of over-ear headphone manufacturers have had this figured out for a long time and the helmet coms manufacturers are not considering this at all. When the speakers are properly positioned/have an acoustic seal to the riders' ear, the rider doesn't need to turn the com system volume up nearly as high and it sounds tremendously better and this is why I have a pair of sabotaged $20 over-ear headphones soldered into my current coms system and modified into my helmet, the sound is nothing shy of incredible compared to how these coms systems come out of the box.
So if you criticized it would you ever have gotten another thing from Cardo?
I just fitted this to my open face scooter 3/4 helmet. The standard 40mm speakers sound great on a “open helmet” easy to set up too.
I will be getting the second helmet kits so I can use it on my daily helmet
I really like my packtalk bold but it has a problem that has been very annoying. I even contacted Cardo and was emailing back and forth. Then they stopped communicating with me. They may think I am joking but I am not. If a would make a noise, all of a sudden I hear "ok Jerk Off" then It beeps, then goes silent for a few seconds then my music will start again. I have been thinking about getting another brand but these things are too expensive to just try another one.
2 weeks ago I purchased a Sena 50R a week later had to return would not connect to internet for firmware updates and would shut down after 2 minutes. I returned and got a 50S same exact issues spoke to Sena customer service and was advised to return and exchange for another it had a fault with the circuitry. I advised them I would not be exchanging for another Sena. I exchanged for the CARDO PACK TALK EDGE very easy firmware update over the air (that was outstanding) unit works perfect should have gone with Cardo to start with would have saved myself several headaches. I highly recommend the Cardo product. Ps cycle gear was awesome with there customer service I would also recommend them to.
I got my edge a couple of months ago. Love it. The voice activation is great.
I am a new rider and rarely ride with others. I bought the Spirit HD and really like the balance of features vs price. I did buy some leather ear cushions to isolate the sound a little better, but could have probably done without.
Cute review from behind a sesk. Million dollar question: Does it work? Does it get the advertised range? Thank you...
how to sound when compared to Packtalk Black and Edge/NEO is it the same?. Because the speaker is Black 45mm while the Edge/Neo is 40mm
I have both, 45 mm is waaaayyyyy better
hi Dan, do you recommend putting paint protection film on helmet?
can i connect to my buddies with Sena
Great review. Very informative. My only question is it looks to be very easy to put on-take off of the mounting plate. How secure do you feel this would hold up in an impact? I really like the feature of hands free 911 calling if injured but would be nervous during a crash it could become disconnected. Any thoughts on this?
I know you asked this question a year ago, but you want stuff like this to disconnect in case of a crash. Nothing worse than the packtalk gripping something when all you should do is slide with your helmet, you don't want to introduce anymore stresses or strains on your head.
God your beard in this vid is glorious 🙌🏽 😂
Great Videos. Where is your shop in Tucson?
Good honest review but I wish you would addressed the real life range between 2 units. Sure, they say 1 mile, but is it really?
Hi Mate
Thanks for the great informative video !!..
I’ve got a question for you ,
I usually ride alone or sometimes 2 up !!
So with that in mind What would you Honestly recommend ?,
My Biggest Reason for a Headset Is Listening to Music 🎵 !!!.
So that’s Super important to me while I’m Riding ..
Cheers Mate
Which beard comb do you use? Mine is has the tongs too far apart, looking for something finer.
Great review Dan!
Another note - If you had a previous Cardo setup on a helmet, the velcro already in use can be re-used.
i was wachten it yesterday glad I weight a day good review thanks man great work ceep it up
I purchased 2 sets of Edge Duo's and 3 of them crapped out, One right out of the box, one after a days use and the third started failing after it's first use. I could hear but not be heard. I did get replacements under warranty but haven't had a chance to use them yet. I have gone thru several Bold's because the USB charging port fails. None of my Sena's have ever failed for any reason. The charging port seems more robust on the Edge. The only reason I can see to purchase the Edge is it's more true Universal Bluetooth. I have several non-cardo/sena systems and it did connect to them. The Edge has an IP rating for it's weatherproofing but the Bold does not.
With this unit when communication between driver (rider) and passenger, should there be a delay between speach vs hearing?
Hey Dan, we don't care about Cardo...what we want is how you maintain that beard. What beard products do you recommend using. We need a beard product/maintenance video.😅
Bro your sponsored by them it’s more of a paid review.
At least he stated all that in the first few minutes
He literally said that. He isn’t hiding it. Also he seems like a really honest guy trying to help people be more safe on the road. I don’t think he is the type of person to sell his soul for the little amount of lonely he is making off this video. If he didn’t like it I bet he wouldn’t be sponsored by them.
He’s paid to do the reveiw but he chose the product and doesn’t have to be this honest
@@Day-vg1bh The dude literally said it’s expensive, then followed it with, “I’ll probably get in trouble for saying that.”
Obviously, the implies that he can’t be as honest as you’re assuming. If he was honest and didn’t like the system, then Cardo would no longer sponsor him. Why would they send him a product just for him to not suggest it?
@@waled121 If his only goal was to make money he wouldn’t have mentioned the price at all lol not like he’s forced to record videos, he’s being a very legit and honest guy, people just hate to see someone make money even if they’re helping people out
I have a plain HJC I-90 modular helmet. If I get pactalk edge, do I need the helmet kit, or does it already have a wires boom mic, and speakers?
Do you prefer to use silicon earplugs and use the jbl speakers for sound, or use plugfones connected to the packtalk for sound? The alpine plugs don't dempen enough wind noise for me. I need a solution. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you for the video.
Holy shit! I just had to use my Rescue kit I bought from you to save a fellow rider!
I'm definitely glad I had it, and I'm sure the rider I helped appreciated me having it!
I wouldn't have had it probably without your constant warning ⚠️ that we need to always carry First Aid ⛑️ with us.
Thanks fire man!
Just picked one up - Upgraded from the Spirit HD. Ton better sound from the JBL speakers. I just wish they'd allow more presets for the FM radio.
Just started watching… I’m using the FS1 pro right now it was only $80 it works pretty well for the price… let’s see if your video makes me wanna upgrade I’ll update!
Didn’t they just come out with the pack talk Neo though?
The neo is a step down from the edge. Basically no magnet mount and cannot charge and talk at same time with the neo.
Cardo, succes with my €490. Bought it
🔥
Hey Dan. What earplugs do you recommend for hearing protection?.
You've convinced me Dan - will buy this unit in January sales. Plus these are a US brand I believe & units made in Ukraine. No Chinese c**p!
Also, I had some molds taken of my ears & had some ear defenders made. Used them 3 days ago on 2 1/2 hour ride & wind noise completely gone. Brilliant & so much better than foam type ear-plugs.
If you need isn’t getting it yet, get the packtalk black on sale right now. Super cheap compared to it’s original 388 price point.
Best sounding system i've had but it took me a month to get a replacement mounting plate when the adhesive started giving up. Came on a slow boat from France.
You could have just used 3m tape lol
Cool video mate. I already have a set of pactalk bold systems and from what you said the edge system will connect to the bold so I will look to invest in their latest system
Pack talk bold is waterproof as well. Never mind the marketing talk. How does the sound compared to the bold. My guess not much.
Can you actually hear anything when riding with this? I bought one of these blutooth systems and i literally cant hear anything over the engine of my bike. And i ride a 200cc with a custom exhaust. So its loud but not as loud as faster bikes. Before buying this i wanna know if its actually loud enough to hear anything? Does it even have active noise cancelling for that price? Im about to buy some bose earbuds and just be done with it lol
Hi Dan, when using this duo edge packet with the passenger, why is there delay when use intercom? I am already using 2.7 version update, and still almost 1 second delay between driver and passenger. Is there any solution ?
nice thanks for the specs mr.Dan!
my biggest complain is that wind noise triggers communication from the wife riding in the back. no changes in settings help much. it cuts down music volume because it thinks she's talking. updated software, replaced units, mics, even helmets and it still isn't great.
Thanks Dan Dan 😁
I had a pack talk bold and can’t find it. So I went with the black. Has upgrades and works great. I like that it clicks right into the cradle of the bold. I already have the JBL 45 mm speakers. I literally hooked it up in 10 sec. I got it from revzilla for $235! A LOT CHEAPER than $389! The every year hook up to your computer for upgrades is not a big deal. The black is waterproof too!
Will this pair with other manufacturers?
Yes
Hey!
im so confused the more im reading / watching videos , ...
the question of all questions: CARDO SENA
My choice falls between:
- CARDO Packtalk BOLD
- CARDO Packtalk Edge
- SENA 30K
- SENA 50R
- SENA 50S
Would be great if you or the community could help me
Thanks & Regards,
Benny
Been using the Packtalk Slim for the last few months and honestly not impressed at all with the rider to rider communication. Both of us have a Slim and he rarely can hear me through static or break in communication once we get to speed. Granted I am riding on a Panigale V2 with full Akra exhaust but still very difficult to make out voice once we're moving.
Is the Edge an improvement over the Slim?
Could also be related to your helmet or the mic you are using
I like to race karts, I want to get one of these to keep in touch with my teammate.
Nice video and thank you for that. I own 2020 Goldwing. I do like the Edge. It seems solid and easy to set up and use. However, with the Goldwing, it's tricky. The mating, every time you start the bike could be a challenge. Are you aware of such on our bikes? Any tips to make it work good on every start? I want to get a set, but before I spend so much, want to make sure.
You're good salesman 😊
Whats stopping anyone from comming up along side you & just taking it from your helmet ? Before pushing down the little clip would make that arkward..
DanDan I have the freecom+4 and I have to keep calling intercom because it shuts off if we don't speak for 30 seconds, this is a pain and takes away from the safety factor. Does the edge do this as well, or does it stay connected?
Best of the best of the best sir. With honors.
I like your content but this is more of an endorsement video than a review, I would have liked to hear some criticism and things you’d like to see improved, things it can’t do yet or whatever. I can look at the site for all the features but to hear your experiences with it, the good the bad and the ugly is valuable information.
I am looking for something to replace my Sena SRL which I was not at all impressed with (battery shot won't take a charge despite, or maybe because of, not much use). I found a replacement battery but don't want to throw forty bucks at a four year old system I'm not that happy with to begin with.
I think I could definately get by with the Freecom 4X. It looks like it has most of the features of the Edge, but for a lot less, and I would never need (or want) to connect with so many riders at once anyway.
Not sure why it's warranty is only two years as opposed to three on the Edge. It is also water proof, has BT 5.2, over air updates and so on.
I just got a cardi edge. The microphone is made by a child in China for less than a cent a day, the speakers are too quite, and the buttons are overly confusing. Also the voice control only kinda works.
That is an honest review.
I just tried the Promo cod and it says "Sorry, this promo code is not applicable to selected products." So much for that.
One thing still missing - a line-level recording output. Until someone adds that feature, I'll wait.
I like the idea of it telling you the battery state, but it's not enough to justify the ugrade over my Bold, an already awesome system..
Is there a difference on the edge? I have the bold and just looking at the specs, they seem identical minus maybe a size diff?
@@Mike_Jones68 I noticed that, too, on the list DDFN shows. But he mentions the magnetic fixing, the audible battery status, waterproofing, aerodynamics, weight, no aerial,... and if I didn't already hava a Cardo it would probably be the one I'd go for.
I wouldn’t bother with upgrade if you have the bold, I’ve got both and when I use them, no real difference.
Both are the best comms systems I’ve used though, so worth buying one of them.
@@Mike_Jones68 not really, they are very similar when in use.
Does the promo code not work with the Edge? Cardo's website not allowing it, only with anything else
Well that is weird... I'll chat with them. If you find a good deal on Amazon or elsewhere, I'd do that.
my favorite thing about the Edge is being able to hear THE STREET LIGHTS 🤣👍
Your link doesn't work.
I’m thinking about buying the Cardo Edge dual pack . Do you know if each unit will connect to each persons phone and allow each to listen to their own Fm stations or Sirius station ? It would be great to listen to our preferences and use the intercom system .
Pretty sure you gotta use a radio app on your phone if you want to listen to XM/FM
@@392Joel I know each unit has a Fm tuner . Just didn’t know if each one would play different stations at the same time .I can get Xm on my radio and phone . We each have the app on our phone .
Hi Dan you mention Jbl speakers .What model are those and where you buy them please.Max from Mèxico!!
Yo @DanDanTheFireman thanks for this review. Any thoughts on the Edge's magnetic mount failing in a crash or even just a helmet drop? I love that it's slimmer but this question has stopped me from buying it yet.
its a rare earth metal magnet. Its incredibly strong to the point that i need 2 hands and my wife holding the helmet to force it off via brute force (straight vertical pull from the holder).
However, it was cleverly designed with a ramp in the holder. Your suppose to slide the edge forward on the ramp. This gives you the leverage nessisary to remove it one handed. It still is not easy and it takes the whole hand to slide it then at the end of the ramp the pull drops off enough that it can be easily removed. You can see here at 3:05 this is exactly how he removes it using forward force, not upward force. The sides and back are lipped so it'll catch and hold the edge. If you wreck hard enough the holder breaks allowing the edge to fly off the sides or rear, i doubt you'll be too worried about your cardo at that point.
The holder itself is held on by a strong glue. Personally, i think the glue is the weak point especially in texas heat. The magnet will hold on long after the glue gives up.
It’s not only held by the magnet but also it snaps into place.
Great review and information! I tried to use your discount code, but it doesn't seem to work. Does the link already apply it?
I had to look up Monsoon lol never seen one before!
thousandth like on the vid, just found you from another youtuber shit talking/joking about you lol
Tried and returned. Not loud enough if you use earplugs, like you should.
Nice saan maka order ng cardo...?
The only thing I’m frustrated with is the inability to mesh connect with other brand headsets. You talk about how important it is to be able to communicate with other riders yet we can’t when we all don’t have the same brand. So, in my opinion, the CB still ranks way better for bike to bike communication. Any CB can talk to any other CB.
Nice review however promo code does not work. ☹️
I like the Slim because I feel like the clip-ons (in this case magnetic-on) is easy to steal when my helmet is locked on my bike.
You could just snap it off the magnet and stash it in your pocket... 🤷♂️
Looks awesome 👍👍😎😎
Lol dude the chinese v6 intercoms work like a charm! Been using them on group rides for years!! Save your money guys!
@@canedewey756 what's up with the racism dude?
Only thing stopping me from buying this is the fact i do not know if it would work in a Bell Bullitt.
Take the cushions on the inside off; if you see grooves and indents, it should work, I believe it also works even if there is no pre-made grooves for speaker systems. If your still unsure I'm sure you could message Cardo or Bell and ask them if it's compatible or not
@@Reaping_Matster the issue is that the one pad is actually molded to the helmet. There is No gap for the hook to slide in
@@dantediss1 If the problem is how to get the holder for the edge to stay on, there is a sticky pad you can use instead.
@@Reaping_Matster ahhhhhhhhhhh i thought that was just a backup for the hook. Thank you for that. Guess i need to start saving up then. Thank you
@@dantediss1 no problem
I just got mine for 275 on amazon. Seems like a good deal to me
Nice Headset dude ;)
Awesome review. I'm giving away one of these on my channel! It's an awesome unit.