The Greatest Story in Gaming, Legend of the Five Rings

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  • @jackfair4758
    @jackfair4758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +296

    My friend Nik was one of those Naga players who refused to fight each other at the Day of Thunder. He passed last year. Thanks for mentioning that. Feels good seeing a little of his legacy as a gamer living on across the internet.

    • @johnzamer3142
      @johnzamer3142 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how did he pass

    • @jackfair4758
      @jackfair4758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johnzamer3142 cancer

    • @johnzamer3142
      @johnzamer3142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jackfair4758 god rest his soul. Sounds like an awesome dude

    • @shanegibbons8539
      @shanegibbons8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fortunately, he will be reborn in the next generation of Naga, so he will never truly die.

    • @Khurzan72
      @Khurzan72 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Jack! I recognize ya. Our Toledo L5R group was amazing!

  • @Its419games
    @Its419games 3 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    "I was at the Day of Thunder."
    And with those words, I am officially jealous.

    • @WardNightstone
      @WardNightstone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i never heard about this game till MANY years later (because there was a TTRPG based on the card game I THINK i know it was the early 2000's by the time i heard about it)

    • @DMingThoughts
      @DMingThoughts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This is one of the most badass things to say.

  • @Justthisguyyouknow
    @Justthisguyyouknow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    I'm late to this, but my L5R tale. I played, but the guy that taught me did tournaments as a Scorpion. He went to a mid-level tournament once with a pile of Koku. Koku was essentially a money that you could win, or collect, and send in to AEG for merch or cards. At one point, he sat down against a guy he was pretty sure would beat him. So he told him, essentially, that he was happy for the opportunity to have this battle, and was so grateful that, should he win, he would offer this koku to the player to make up for his time spent with this lowly scorpion. So the other guy flagged a judge, and said "hey, this dude is trying to bribe me to throw my match". And the judge asked me friend if that was true, to which he replied "No, he gets koku no matter the outcome, he just didn't know that. But he would get more if he bears the shame of losing." And the judge looked at him for a moment, looked at the other guy, pondering the issue. Then my friend added "Also, of relevance, is that I am Scorpion". To which the judge went "Ah, carry on then". Amazing interactions were the hallmark. I miss this game.

    • @yukitadano5098
      @yukitadano5098 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New player here, what is the relevance of Scorpion

    • @Togusa2
      @Togusa2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@yukitadano5098 Scorpion clan is known to be the underhand of the emperor. Their highest value is loyalty, and they do whatever it takes to comply their duty. And that means being masters of secrets, assassins, manipulators, bribers and spies. All those actions are dishonourable in the world of L5R, so other clans see them as unworthy. Where those other clans will kill themselves to die in honour, scorpions will dishonour themselves in pride knowing that they've played their part.

    • @Justthisguyyouknow
      @Justthisguyyouknow 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@yukitadano5098 I can't speak to now, but historically the Scorpion clan was always the shady, darker side of the empire. In the lore, they were the secret intelligence, assassins and whatnot for the emperor. Thus, playing that way, with a quasi-but-not-really-subtle bribe if the player throws the game would 100% be in character for a Scorpion.

  • @stevenvoss3538
    @stevenvoss3538 6 ปีที่แล้ว +619

    While we enjoyed the Day of Thunder, Matt Colville stood the watch.

    • @mightyminotaur5056
      @mightyminotaur5056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Steven Voss The booth fell before the Colville did.

    • @juderowe6408
      @juderowe6408 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@mightyminotaur5056 For Cadia!... I mean, erm, fantasy Japan

  • @chrislonghurst7249
    @chrislonghurst7249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1697

    When I saw a video talking about the best story in gaming and L5R I thought you were going to tell the story of the Mantis Clan Standard Bearer -- the man who was hit by a car on day one of a big con, but checked himself out of hospital to come back and play his clan. The art on the card is him, and that's why Yoritomo Furikae can't be killed in the game.

    • @andrewshewan4551
      @andrewshewan4551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      Chris Longhurst That's so Metal!

    • @MagatsuNimura
      @MagatsuNimura 6 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I can't find further information online about this card or the player. Would love to read more if you can point me in the direction of an article or something similar.

    • @sethrdee
      @sethrdee 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Dude, what a boss! That is dedication, I love it.

    • @chrislonghurst7249
      @chrislonghurst7249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      I did do some Googling to try and confirm the story but there doesn't seem to be anything. Like Matt says in the video, this is all oral history -- someone who was there told a friend of mine, he told me, now I'm telling anyone who'll listen. I suppose it could all be made up, but I hope it's not.

    • @thorinpeterson6282
      @thorinpeterson6282 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      403, access forbidden

  • @odiwalker3973
    @odiwalker3973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +557

    I think I've watched this about 5 or 6 times in the last couple years, it never gets old

    • @grantdixson1442
      @grantdixson1442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same. Matt's passions and nostalgia are contagious in a very compelling way that rings true. I can hear Heden in this video.

    • @c_bass1971
      @c_bass1971 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think I average 5-6 viewings of every Colville video. This is one of his best, probably only behind the Critical Role finale which is maybe the finest video ever made on our hobby.

    • @aartvb9443
      @aartvb9443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw your comment and wanted to like it. I already liked it in the past 😂

    • @Hghartung
      @Hghartung 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree and am now running a L5R-themed campaign right after the death of the emperor

    • @TriMarkC
      @TriMarkC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Honor is stronger than steel."
      That's going to be the foundation of my new character for our next Pathfinder campaign.
      Likely a clan assassin, he/she was raised by a falsely imprisoned ninja & a hedge witch, will "collect" art/artifacts, helps street kids by teaching them his/her skills, & can throw a mean frisbee (perhaps modified star knife).

  • @Thunderspeaks
    @Thunderspeaks 6 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    The greatest game I ever saw being played at a tournament was between a Dragon and Crane player. Both decks were geared towards dueling and if you knew the history of both clans, you knew how significant that was. The players themselves decided to take their deck and turn it into a staring contest. They would each in turn draw a card and this would go on until one of them blinked. When one of them finally did, they added the focus value (each card had a value at the bottom of it) and the person with the highest value would win. It was a tie. Karmic Strike. Both duelists die as a result. Again, if you knew the history of both clans, you would understand the significance of it. I'll never forget that game or the community during those years.

    • @0ctopusComp1etely
      @0ctopusComp1etely 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      That is a fantastic story. I love the level of dedication the players felt in fulfilling the essence of their clans.

  • @DavidWilliams-nm5jv
    @DavidWilliams-nm5jv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey Matt. DW here - I absolutely guarantee that what Zinser told you was the truth. That was ABSOLUTELY the plan. It's what we planned and wanted to do. In the end, it was the community of players demanding that we continue the game that basically forced us to change the plan and instead continue things (with a new storyline, of course). The L5R community is and was an incredible group of people that really took ownership of the game and the story. Absolutely incredible.

  • @SinOfAugust
    @SinOfAugust 4 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    I remember way back when I was playing the game, I got interested in one of the minor Crane clan characters, a blind swordswoman whose name I did not even know (I merely saw her depicted on the card “The World is Empty”). And I sent an email to the AEG asking about her, their writer wrote me back, giving me a huge write up about her, her sister and their personal conflict, and talked about the direction this side story was going to take in the future. Can you imagine what kind of passion was in these AEG people for this world? People working on L5R loved and, indeed, lived this game! Still blows my mind...

    • @gbem1
      @gbem1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Reading this in 2023 hoping this world persists...

    • @azayrian1052
      @azayrian1052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it is ok for me to ask what was her story?

  • @Ilithandie89
    @Ilithandie89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    The water dragon going to Yorotomo on the day of Thunder. "Bring your 10 best men."
    Yorotomo "I AM my best 10 men."

    • @tzera_rhuon
      @tzera_rhuon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yoritomo is a badass and I LOVE the art on his card.

  • @Idrisapbran
    @Idrisapbran 6 ปีที่แล้ว +439

    Matt, I loved hearing your version of the Clan war, I was a Crab Clan player from launch through many years beyond the Day of Thunder. Hida O-Ushi was the heart and soul of my Clan. She was the younger sister of Hida Yakamo the Crab clan Thunder. I will in short tell you my favorite portion of her story. After her father and died and her older brother became the Sun. She was the Crab Clan Champion for many years. When she was old enough to already have two fully grown sons her clan was at war with the Crane Clan. The Champion of the Crane led an army many times the size of her own and she knew her fate. She challenged Doji Kurohito to a duel she knew she would lose but he could not refuse. But as she was her Clan's Champion he would be forced to wait 24 days before attacking to honor her death. In that time her son's arrived and the Crab won the war.

    • @leonardopavaoborges
      @leonardopavaoborges 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Never played the card game, but im Crazy about the rpg. We are the Wall, brother.

    • @zalmute423
      @zalmute423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@leonardopavaoborges The Crab Clan will remain and endure, brother.

    • @LastHCompany
      @LastHCompany 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gotta love Cow Grandma.
      Oh yeah, she was in her mid-60s at that point, and way past her prime. Still as angry as she was in youth, and could still kick it like a bear (like her dad).

    • @fredslipknot9
      @fredslipknot9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Genius tactics

    • @xDMrGarrison
      @xDMrGarrison 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is amazing :D

  • @Wasparcher1
    @Wasparcher1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    "Doji Hoturi is the best duelist in the empire." Excuse me but Kakita Toshimoko would like to have du-word with you...

    • @thulsa_doom
      @thulsa_doom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nah, the combo Doji Reju + Kharmic Strike was enough to make Reju the best duelist ever. Until Kharmic Strike was patched...

    • @Wasparcher1
      @Wasparcher1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thulsa_doom OMG I remember that move. Back in the days of the original dueling rules. As opposed to those stupid focus pools.

  • @thefissers194
    @thefissers194 6 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    I don’t know if it’s Matt’s sheer vocal/facial enthusiasm, or the idea that you could lose a game and still walk away amazed by what transpired, or the flowing and (apparently) incredible story told by the players and only the players... but this game seems badass. I feel some kind of nostalgia for an event I wasn’t even a part of. Pretty cool.

    • @thegrandwombat8797
      @thegrandwombat8797 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      That is a great description. I feel the same way.

    • @waydifrentbottle
      @waydifrentbottle 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Legend of the five rings was a treasure. I started playing when I was 12 up until a few years ago when the game died. Now it's come back under another company and I'm beyond excited.

  • @AndyAttrition
    @AndyAttrition 6 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    i remember when a Guy from our local weekly organised play round always said how badass Hida Kisada was and how much he wished there would be any character as cool as him. And when AEG anouncec the storyline events of the Legion of Dead and that a Hero of the winners clan would come back he told us he would win the tournament at gencon and resurect Hida Kisada.
    And, ohhh Boy, he did. xDD Greetings going out Salman.

  • @JohnWickPresents
    @JohnWickPresents 6 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    As always, you're very generous, Matt. Thanks! :)

    • @mcolville
      @mcolville  6 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      People need to know this happened, John. This is important. ❤️

    • @jameshebert5182
      @jameshebert5182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What was in the envelopes, John?! What could have been?

    • @JohnWickPresents
      @JohnWickPresents 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      @@jameshebert5182 I'll never tell.

    • @zsoltsv
      @zsoltsv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jameshebert5182 It’s like asking a magician how does he done his trick. You will never gat an answer for it. But if I could have just one question, I would have asked how did he managed to get the Lion/Toturi (Toyotomi Hideyoshi in Sengoku) first place and Crane/Doji Hoturi (Akechi Mitsuhide) second place. Now that is the real magic.
      So I add to my previous comment in some of the upper ones, that John Wick is not simply a storyteller / Dungeon Master genius, but also one of the most talented magician. :)

    • @zsoltsv
      @zsoltsv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Got another one: Kojima Yataro is Hida Yakamo in L5R! He was also called an Oni because of his power, and was also fighting with a Kanabo just like in L5R and there is a Crab on his helmet in the historical paint! :)
      So far the historical connections to Sengoku:
      Oda Nobunaga - Hantei the 39th
      Nohime / Kicho (Oda Nobunaga's wife) - Bayushi Kachiko (Hantei's wife)
      Toyotomi Hideyoshi - Toturi
      Date Masamune - Dairya
      Akechi Mitsuhide - Doji Hoturi
      Kojima Yataro - Hida Yakamo
      Jodo Shinshu Buddhist monks - Brotherhood of Shinsei
      Kodai-in (Toyotomi Hideyoshi's wife) - Isawa Kaede (Toturi's wife)
      Nakano Takeko - Otaku Kamoko
      Shizuka Gozen - Shiba Tsukune (?)

  • @JephLewis
    @JephLewis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    My friend Eric was memorialized during the very last Storyline tournament of the original L5R CCG. Fantasy Flight printed his RPG character (Daidoji Nerishma) in the base game for their new version. To say that we were engaged with this story is a grand understatement.

    • @jameshebert5182
      @jameshebert5182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jeph, share your story!

    • @tzera_rhuon
      @tzera_rhuon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow that's awesome!

    • @chippyonline001
      @chippyonline001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That card's one of my go-to for military conflicts. Glad to know its backstory!

  • @bobhopp4878
    @bobhopp4878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Now that MCDM is in the game-making business, would you consider making a finite game with a beginning, middle, and end similar to the way you described L5R?

  • @beorn379
    @beorn379 6 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    missing it by a hallway. Just hearing that I felt empty and robbed.

    • @Damori
      @Damori 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Broke my heart to hear that part of the video, and I've never even played L5R!

    • @toshomni9478
      @toshomni9478 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I suppose it was the honorable thing to do but I really doubt anyone else would have cared if he'd closed the booth for 6 hours in order to go to the tournament.

    • @nateshandy2070
      @nateshandy2070 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I don't think I have ever sympathized so totally with somebody. If it's any comfort, Matt... I know that feel.

    • @RiahGreen
      @RiahGreen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt is lawful good.

  • @kdinphilly
    @kdinphilly 6 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Matt, Your memory is phenomenal. btw thats my name on the Darkest magics card.

  • @dougatkinson4461
    @dougatkinson4461 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I own the original art to The Darkest Magics; it's very striking in full size.

  • @saikanzen1762
    @saikanzen1762 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I've forgotten how many times I've watched this throughout the years. I swear I'll never get tired of it and I really miss this game.

  • @dougsundseth6904
    @dougsundseth6904 6 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    I absolutely disagree that L5R was bad at multi-player. The rules for multi-player were in the very first rulebooks and they worked quite well. Frankly, I think it was best in that format, because in multi-player you couldn't run a straight speed deck, so it facilitated much more interesting game play. In fact, I played in a series of multi-player tournaments in Denver during the heyday of the game (won two of the five, but lost in the finals because I was seen as being too dangerous, which is entertaining in itself, though not as entertaining as winning, of course.) It's not as good as Seventh Sea CCG for that, but until that point I thought it the best multi-player CCG on the market.
    I was registered as a Toturi's Army player, but that was maskirovka. I ran Unicorn and dark Phoenix decks at the time, both of which were fairly strong, ... and really strong in multi-player.
    I was also at GenCon during the Days of Thunder, but I was editor of Games Quarterly Catalog at the time and was working the dealer floor talking to our advertisers and looking for new advertisers. (It's possible that I talked to you at the time. 8-) )
    As an aside, KC Lancaster, who was the art director for L5R (both the CCG and RPG) for a long time, is a very good friend and former roommate of mine and I have several pieces of her original art from the game. My Crane Clan Banner is only a print, though.

    • @jibulous1
      @jibulous1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We used to have massive 8 player games. They took hours, but there was so much diplomacy and player interaction. It was very similar to playing Commander in MTG. We developed some house rules over time as certain play styles or card combinations were extremely hard to interact with, but we made some great memories.

  • @r31n0ut
    @r31n0ut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I would really love to be part of something like this, but it sounds like something that could only happen in the specific time and place it happened in.

    • @angerydoggosmetal
      @angerydoggosmetal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'd have to disagree! I'm a new player and we play Clan Wars (the earliest part of the card game) and the older players relive the glory days of L5R and they take me with them in it. This game is so good

  • @Wolfie1969a
    @Wolfie1969a 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Ah, what a nice trip down memory lane. I was also at the Day of Thunder in 1997. :)

  • @mcolville
    @mcolville  6 ปีที่แล้ว +596

    A long rambling video, not entirely unlike the last one, in which I often repeat myself. Next video will be better.

    • @PartyWipeGames
      @PartyWipeGames 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Matthew Colville crab clan best clan

    • @mrmccranky
      @mrmccranky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      It's all good dude!

    • @TheSkareCreaux
      @TheSkareCreaux 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Long rambling videos are perfect for these unusual upload times.

    • @unitama9007
      @unitama9007 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Don't sweat it. This video is great.

    • @Khasym
      @Khasym 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Do not let the bluster of the Crab blind you Mr. Colville. As Bayushi Kachiko demonstrated in your tale, there is no GREATER Clan, than the Scorpion. :-) Let the others bicker and posture. Let them stomp their feet and draw their blades. The Bayushi know what they fear, the Yogo know what they won't learn, and the Shosuro know what others believe.

  • @ProudNitro
    @ProudNitro 6 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    I watched all 47 minutes! You immersed me in this story just by telling me about it; talk about verisimilitude! I understand why you've written books now, and I must say I can see a bit of L5R's influence in your book series. You're a great storyteller Matt, please never stop doing what you do!

  • @jgn1977
    @jgn1977 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    26:41 When I heard this part it was like seeing a little kid wake up on Christmas morning with no presents under the tree. Heartbreaking. :(

  • @B_Wheeler
    @B_Wheeler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I always come back to this video every 6 months or so. I can't explain why, but It's honestly one of my favorite videos that you've made.
    I don't know how you did it Matt, but you made me feel nostalgic for a game I've never played, and an event I've never heard of. It sounds like it was one for the books.
    Thank you.

  • @jamesl9014
    @jamesl9014 6 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    22:55 My next characters alignment will read: Not evil, just fulfilling my destiny!
    *proceeds to murderhobo for #reasons

    • @roeyjevels
      @roeyjevels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So....Thanos. :)

  • @satsunada
    @satsunada 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ree Soesbee deserves a Pulitzer for her work keeping the story contained. Always loved her work.

  • @ACGreviews
    @ACGreviews 6 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Late to this. But when not videogame I have always been interested in this game. Thanks for explaining this element as others haven't done the best on doing so.

  • @garrecisko
    @garrecisko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Listening to this video for the third time, over the years. It is THAT good!

    • @samcarter565
      @samcarter565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No on can make me feel for imaginary characters the way Matt Colville does.

  • @HotspotGG
    @HotspotGG 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    7:07 "The Emperor Hentai the 38th" made me laugh :D

    • @kalajel
      @kalajel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The old pervert on the throne...

  • @soeveth
    @soeveth 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I swear I could listen to you narrate twilight and could still enjoy it. You have an unusual way of expressing things you love. You can just hear the passion and excitement in your voice as you told this story.

    • @sertaki
      @sertaki 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I want to see him narrate Twilight.
      :D

  • @ardanblade641
    @ardanblade641 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Recently I took the concepts of this video and engineered it into a monster. I took the Legend of the Five Rings, mixed it with Diplomacy, put in characters and court rules based on the L5R CCG, set a limit of seven turns, one turn every two days, and then cut it loose.
    The result has been far more amazing and terrifying than I could have predicted. I've had players staying up all hours of the night deciding actions, group therapy sessions turned shouting matches over the game, and despite everything, no one wants to quit.
    I blame you for this madness.

  • @ChesireWaltz
    @ChesireWaltz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is something MAGICAL about being a part of things like this. I was part of shenanigans in an mmo and while it wasn't nearly as epic it was amazing to hear people talking about it and being like "Hey! I was there at the Southern City Gates, you missed something cool! Here's what happened-"

  • @MylonPruett
    @MylonPruett 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "I will be your villain Hantei." Scorpion clan player forever.

    • @tzera_rhuon
      @tzera_rhuon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Poor Scorpion caught in the Dead Zone. I feel they're due the greatest honour because they dishonoured the clan and accepted the appearance of evil for the sake of prophecy.

    • @KirinAkados
      @KirinAkados 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scorpion clan player for life is right. I shadow tattooed the mon with the words by any means necessary around it. It's concealable. I can swim too.

    • @melissawardjohns220
      @melissawardjohns220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We can swim! Even in the books Kachiko Bayushi deserved Empress. Scorpion clan always!

    • @Heritage367
      @Heritage367 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My favorite clan. Shoshuro Nabiki forever!

    • @Seanc79
      @Seanc79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scorpion clan forever loyalty above all else

  • @meraduddcethin2812
    @meraduddcethin2812 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have to say that this video is a testament to both the L5R CCG and your own story-telling ability. 40+ minutes listening about a game I've never played and never cared about and the whole thing is fascinating. Thanks for sharing this piece of history and a great idea which may never be repeated.

  • @jaredpeterson496
    @jaredpeterson496 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good video and a great overview of the L5R story. I was a Crane clan player up in Seattle back in the late 90s and I was lucky enough to play L5R back in its golden (jade!) days. Your video brought back a lot of fond memories. Good lord I would love to see this game come back in some way.
    We had a large group of players at Everett Community College and would play almost every day. We actually came up with a good way to make this game multi player- Emperor games. 3 v 3. Each side had two guards and an 'emperor' between them. The guards could only attack their opposite guard and emperors could assist either guard. Guards and emperors could not attack the opposing emperor until one of the guards had been eliminated. Honor win requirement was increased to 60. Made for some great fights.

  • @SirGuido
    @SirGuido 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The story of L5R is what made me start really getting into tabletop gaming hardcore. The L5R story is all kinds of epic!

  • @Tengila
    @Tengila 6 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    It reminds me a little bit of Twitch Plays Pokemon in some ways. As in, the entire first year of it. Somany who dropped off after the initial Red run have no idea what they missed. Stories started cropping up in very different ways at a very different pace after that. And while yes, we have recordings and stuff, because we all had a measure of control over the game, and we all interpreted the happenings in different ways, there is no true timeline, no single correct interpretation of the events. The only canon was headcanon, if you will. You kind of had to be there to really appreciate it. The fanart still remains, as to the recaps and the logs of the live updates, but. Well. It's kind of a mess to try and understand the stories now - especially in gen five and onward when people were really starting to drop off and we got through the games faster than any particular interpretation started to grow dominant. Still, it was quite the experience. The TPP events that were Emerald and Platinum will always be close to my heart.

    • @RurouniJoe1
      @RurouniJoe1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember loving gen 1 and hating gen 2, but then loving gen 2 by the end before ultimately falling off. What made Emerald and Platinum so special? Was Emerald the one where players figured out how to keep resetting the game at the very beginning?

    • @okokpokjijpij1242
      @okokpokjijpij1242 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I kept reading this large message, expecting some kind of explanation, but all there is to it is just some confusing sentimental fluff
      Stories? Timeline? What the fuck its a pokemon game, do tell how can it be so heartwarming to see thousands of people spam right left up and down for hours, i am honestly very confused and curious

    • @Erick7Greenday
      @Erick7Greenday 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@okokpokjijpij1242 Thing is, it was an event where people got to participate in a stream. Everyone's imput counted, and people were to spam their move. When anarchy and democracy were implemented, it was even more interesting because then people would get even more involved, and the story was pretty good with lots of events like the day lots of pokemon were released, and such.

    • @tylerboulware6510
      @tylerboulware6510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@okokpokjijpij1242 The same way that dice can tell a story in DnD.

  • @Sexpizza
    @Sexpizza 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    It makes me so fucking happy to know someone else loves the movie Big Trouble in Little China. You know what ol Jack Burton used to say "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

    • @serigraph73
      @serigraph73 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A LOT of people love that movie

    • @imbatman8664
      @imbatman8664 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "I know, you can't go in there cause there's a problem with your face."
      "Six demon bag, sensational what's in it Egg?" "Wind, fire, all that kind of thing."

    • @TheFoggye
      @TheFoggye 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comment shakes the Pillars of Heaven.

    • @Tampahop
      @Tampahop 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's all in the reflexes. :)

  • @brentkeith3455
    @brentkeith3455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for rambling! This really brought me back to my early days with L5R, where a whole group of us in college would regularly play multiplayer, and try to piece together what was happening from all the small snippets. A bunch of us joined the Imperial Assembly (the fan club), and to my knowledge I was the first to sign up as a member of Junzo's Army - months before the actual stronghold was printed. None of us were able to get to tournaments of any real size until after the original story arc ended, so at the time all any of us could do was dream of contributing to the storyline someday.
    In my case, I did a lot more years later, when I was given the honor of becoming the lead designer. Over the years the player base grew and shrank in cycles, and during my tenure our key to making it grow again was to capture as much as we could from those early days. Thanks to the pervasiveness of the web the early method of storytelling was simply no longer feasible, but with the Race for the Throne we managed to get a far greater number of players directly involved in shaping the storyline. Even in our high points, though, our guiding question was: "What is the essence which made it great in the original arc?"

    • @tzera_rhuon
      @tzera_rhuon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You were a fan that got to design for a game you loved? That's awesome!

  • @imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788
    @imperialadvisoraremheshvau3788 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    OMG! YOU MISSED THE DAY OF THUNDER!!!! MATT YOU LAWFUL NEUTRAL FOOL!!!! 😭😭😭

  • @1roscos
    @1roscos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Oh black SCROLLS. I kept hearing black SQUIRRELS and I was like "WTF is this game?"

    • @boyanpenev9822
      @boyanpenev9822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The dark squirrels of Fu-Leng, the most evilly adorable rodent of the shadowlands. .

  • @Zonalar
    @Zonalar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i watched 45 minutes and still have no idea about L5R. I have no relationship to these events or games, so they don't mean anything to me, but I understand what Matt is trying to convey, the feeling of being a part of building and creating a story with a community. And that is really powerful and I love that.
    For me, it really helped me to understand what L5R is all about when I watched Gamers 3, because that whole movie is about that. I didn't know beforehand, but now I see "Oooh! This is the game where they got the idea for the Movie from!" :D

  • @georgewilson2575
    @georgewilson2575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Matt, the closest I ever came to experiencing what you were last describing was when we used to play Battletech at my place. The players sat facing away from each other, each with their own boards and could only see the mechs that the moderator placed on the boards in their lines of sight. They had little to no idea where things were that their teammates could see, except by the descriptions they were able to give, but since none of them could see the entire board it was difficult for them to coordinate things over distances, as they saw and lost sight of their enemies.
    It made for a much longer game, since everything had to be updated on all of the boards each turn and all of the moves were resolved by notes and such that way no one could know what was going on except the players directly involved, but it was a whole lot more fun. The climax of the one night was quite accidental as one of the smaller and lighter mechs came around a street corner in a very urban setting only to find the back of the leader of the opposing group facing him. Suddenly the other team could no longer communicate with their leader and they had no idea why. By the time they found his ruined mech, the light mech had moved several streets over and until the game was over they had no idea what had happened or what they were facing.
    Those games, where you only had access to part of the story at a time, were a whole lot more satisfying to play in than those where everyone was together, everything happened out in the open, and everyone knew everything.
    I wish I had known about the game you have been describing. I never heard of it back then but it sounds like it was a lot of fun and it is refreshing to hear of a company that was so responsive to its players and what they were doing, until they betrayed them so to speak.

  • @urfaes6878
    @urfaes6878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am glad to have come across this. L5R is, by far, one of the best story driven games I've ever experienced. I was a scrub that went from Kotei to Kotei then eventually would place as top Ratling or top Dragon (though I never had the chance at top 16). I met so many wonderful people : one AEG employee would sometimes come by and play with our group; I remember being introduced to the player that would become Hida Yagamaki. L5R is full of just awesome memories, especially some of the cosplayers such as Utaku Yui. I would love to see a CCG resurgence instead of the LCG version. EDIT : And that multiplayer L5R variant you're describing, we reproduced at the local store. I never got to play the Gencon version, but it was absolutely awesome to experience. I recall being the daimyo for the Dragon clan, and all I could do was trust my shogun to do what needed to be done.

  • @overlordgaming4839
    @overlordgaming4839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You made me get into the 1990s version of the game and I bought the battle of baiden pass and I bought the obsidian edition for the crane clan

  • @Manga_Lloyd
    @Manga_Lloyd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I know it's new and unplayed by many, including Matt, but I wish that a little more time had been given to mention the new version of L5R. It's back, it's out, and now it's a "living card game," so theoretically, players won't have to drop as much money on it. It might not have the same formula and impact, but it could certainly be fun.

    • @infinitedm5396
      @infinitedm5396 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The way they handle story and hand out fluff related storyline wins is pretty impressive as well. A vast upgrade to how it was being handle the previous decade.

    • @NathanSmithRenown0
      @NathanSmithRenown0 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I'm a player of the new version, and was a player of the original (not way back, but for several years). The FFG version of the game really feels like it brings out the soul of the story in a streamlined way. It's still super complicated, but not at all to the point of being convoluted. My first game took two and a half hours to play, and now I'm "blasting" through them in forty minutes or so. And now that military and politics have both been separated from honor/dishonor victories, it feels like they're both viable options, and you can accurately represent the fact that military or political victories and losses can translate into honor or dishonor victories and losses. It's so hard to describe but it feels amazing.

    • @AqueleGamer
      @AqueleGamer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Been playing the LCG and it's a blast, the complexity only adds depth to the game, even if in the begging things are rough and it will probably take some time to get the hang of it, it opens up an enormous pool of different plays and strategies.

    • @MichaelRamm
      @MichaelRamm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, since you even said "unplayed by Matt" why would he talk about it...this is obviously a video of great personal experience, and he has no experience with the new L5R....

    • @Manga_Lloyd
      @Manga_Lloyd 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Michael Ramm because he knew about it. I haven't played the new version either, but I know about it. I was merely saying that he could have done a better job of mentioning the new iteration. Many people were commenting about how cool the game sounded and how they wish they could have been a part of that era, but maybe this new L5R will be great and give the same feeling.

  • @isupposethisismynmw640
    @isupposethisismynmw640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love people being passionate about things, and that definitely scratches that itch

  • @Mazer2721
    @Mazer2721 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A friend of mine worked on L5R as a writer some years after the day of thunder. He also loved going to cons and playing. He said that the rivalry between clans extended to the real world so much so that some players refused to drink at bars where they saw rival clans drinking.

  • @jayxeno
    @jayxeno 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Man, this is fascinating. L5R was my first pen and paper RPG, and I remember having a dragon clan deck. I had no idea how deep this went!

  • @rexanaxer
    @rexanaxer 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I'm gonna lose, but I'm gonna see something amazing happen" -my philosophy when building encounters in my campaign

  • @just_gut
    @just_gut 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played so much L5R that I still say "the table is yours" when I play card games. It is also my favorite story in gaming, and my favorite setting to run. I just wish someone else in my group would run it once in awhile so I could play.

    • @shanegibbons8539
      @shanegibbons8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do that as well. I'm even teaching my son to bow and say it when he plays other games.

  • @DanielRedMoon
    @DanielRedMoon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've always known about L5R, but only until a few days ago have I dived a bit it! I'm saddened to know it has ended (for a second time, in 2021, it seems) and that it was as huge as it was.. but poorly documented. So :D I'm so happy this video was made, and that I got to see it. Thanks Matthew

  • @Icipher353
    @Icipher353 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    L5R is not forgotten by those of us who loved it. I still have my Scorpion Clan tattoo to remember it. 20 years on, I'm still friends with people I met through playing L5R. An incredible game with an unrivaled community.

  • @jechet10
    @jechet10 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Is this what the Gamer's series "Hands of Fate" was based on?

    • @davisdalmanis3809
      @davisdalmanis3809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      yes

    • @Drudenfusz
      @Drudenfusz 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yes, and there are actual people from AEG in it.

    • @RayZerno
      @RayZerno 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Quite sure yeah, I thought the exact same thing when I was listening to Colville talking about this

    • @ferretprince4054
      @ferretprince4054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes, absolutely.

    • @jonmattison3939
      @jonmattison3939 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was my exact thought throughout Matt's whole video...

  • @warrenc6881
    @warrenc6881 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only started in the second story arc, after the Day of Thunder. But this still took me back to the excitement our tiny local gaming community shared about the game and story when we played it on the other end of the world

  • @timcorkery5023
    @timcorkery5023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played gold edition as it came out while I was 11 years old. I needed this video, such good memories. Thank you good sir.

  • @Calebgoblin
    @Calebgoblin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    17:52 I legit heard "and he's a commie"
    MOTHERLAND!?!?

    • @deirakos
      @deirakos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Kami = japanese for (a) God

  • @tjasra
    @tjasra 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Eve Online has some similarities with this game. As far as oral history about things that have taken place between the various player groups within the game.

    • @TheAVeidt
      @TheAVeidt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Talon Jasra I was hoping to find a comment about Eve here. The stuff Matt talks about happens in New Eden nullsec all the time!

    • @DuckBoots
      @DuckBoots 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy to see I'm not the first to say,. The thing that keeps me amazed and involved in Eve is the way CCP interacts with the players and makes them an integral part of lore and development.

    • @danielsprague2652
      @danielsprague2652 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      came to say this. Never heard of L5R but it sounds a lot like EVE.

    • @cracklingvoice
      @cracklingvoice 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Published books have been written about the history of EVE, especially after VileRat's death.

  • @trevorjamesrhoads8528
    @trevorjamesrhoads8528 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every few months this video pops into my head. Really makes me want to design a story-driven card game with an expiration date.

  • @ink7761
    @ink7761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My smile literally dropped when you said you worked the booth that day. that really must have stung

  • @StormWildSpace
    @StormWildSpace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I interned at AEG in 2000 with their minis department (when they still did a minis game). I even have a writing credit in a scenario book called Thunder's Challenge.

  • @androsh9039
    @androsh9039 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Now I wish I could have played this game back then! Amazing story, Matt.

  • @WookieeRage
    @WookieeRage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What, what?!? My brother was the art director for Last Unicorn Games.
    I still have Aria Roleplaying and Worlds books, plus a large collection of Heresy cards. Later on I got into some of the Final Fantasy LCGs and loved Netrunner, of which I have most the cards.
    But I also loved the CCG for L5R after playing the RPG and being a fan of the Miamoto Musashi's book, the name sake of the game. Though I never played in any of the tournaments, but in 2009 I was judging for the WoW TCG at GenCon and I will never forget how the L5R players started each day with a combined three part cheer to signify the day's battles to begin. That is the kind of passion for a game that no other CCG/LCG/TCG has ever shown in my experience.

  • @aprilblossoms7432
    @aprilblossoms7432 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh oh oh oh matt blaseball is a perfect example of this kind of storytelling and the player lore and the collabaration and streaming and everything

  • @Khasym
    @Khasym 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mr. Colville, this is an old book, even by L5R standards. But if you ever get a chance to read the Way of the Scorpion, do so. You will INSTANTLY fall in love with L5R as an RPG :-)

    • @darklightuk2
      @darklightuk2 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I second this big time!!

    • @grzegorzlewandowski3859
      @grzegorzlewandowski3859 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think all ways of the clan books, from first edition, have some allure in them. L5R is an incredible rpg. -so said the unicorn

    • @satsunada
      @satsunada 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha.. one of the best, and funniest books, is the Way of the Merchant.. the opening few pages are awesome, just graphs and charts of rice production. A few comments on preferred trade routes.. and then you flip the page and go straight to the gangs ... and more importantly the 5th column of the game, an sorcery and shadows equivalent of the Yakuza.

  • @justindaron9094
    @justindaron9094 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matthew, thank you SO much for just a great narrative of Gaming History! I know one of the original artist, Troy Graham, and he, just like you: get SO excited and impassioned when he talks about those founding years. Thank you for sharing and what an inspiration for Game Designer's to TRY and create something on that level. Thanks again for sharing!

  • @kylepascuzzi9581
    @kylepascuzzi9581 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't normally comment on TH-cam videos like this, but I've been enjoying your series and something you said grabbed me. Telling the story of burning the envelops at the GenCon tournament reminds me of an ongoing tabletop war game that my friends and I currently play. It's called Guild Ball by Steamforged Games in the UK. We often describe it to interested viewers as "medieval murder soccer". At any rate, they have been having these global events where people can play games and pledge the results to one Guild or another. Those results change the game, forever.
    Last season the global event was a civil war within the Butchers Guild. Whoever won the global results event between the leaders of two sides would get a new card, a new version of one of their player, and the other would get nothing. One side one, two new veteran versions of characters were reveled and the event ended. My friends and fellow players debated endlessly, and still talk about, who the new players would have been if the other side won. Steamforged to has never revealed, at least to my knowledge, on what would have happened if the result had been different. I love that about their ongoing story of Guild Ball. Your envelope anecdote reminded me of that and I thank you for it

  • @Pimpology101
    @Pimpology101 วันที่ผ่านมา

    L5R was my favorite CCG as a kid, by a wide margin. And this revisit was exactly what I didn’t know I needed. Nicely done bruv, I subbed.

  • @thehulkster9434
    @thehulkster9434 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is certainly an intriguing idea. It would be almost impossible to recreate, but it is extremely interesting. It would allow for a very "real" story since there isn't much of a system in place to force things back on track if the unexpected happens. With everything controlled by players, it would very much reflect some level of actual strategy mixed with actual human emotion, enabling the story to flow with a realistic level of unpredictability.
    However, I can't really imagine it happening again. Beyond the fact that it would be hard to have the same feel with today's culture and technology, I also find it hard to imagine that there are too many companies ready to make a game that has an inherent shelf life. It would have to be a company that is willing to prioritize the art and experience over long-term profit. It's something where the game would become obsolete when the story was finished. It also would have a story that would be difficult to license in any way due to how tied it is to the medium it existed in.
    Further, the difficulty is that it almost requires the game to gain a fan base pretty quickly. If there were only a hundred people who cared about the game, it's hard to imagine that it would have the same feel.

  • @Finkeldinken
    @Finkeldinken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everything about this sounds amazing. I play MtG and while I enjoy the flavor and story of it and occasionally read story posts, this L5R stuff is clearly a whole other -level- tier. I love everything about this. I've heard people mention L5R as an amazing card game from the past, but I would never have guessed the scope of it.
    Sweet video, Mr. Colville.

  • @jek__
    @jek__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This feels related to your "let your players control monsters" lesson

  • @davidoletep
    @davidoletep 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My old l5r playgroup in socal included the shadowlands warlord (Darrin dalingini), highly ranked unicorn then phoenix (art reed) and crane (ron) players. One of the guys in our playgroup ended up murdering his wife in long beach CA and I stopped playing with them. I remember a bunch of us renting a van and going up to SF for a battle of otosan uchi tournament. Great time

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodDM
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodDM 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Not going to lie, that story made my eyes crossed a few times, but I absolutely loved your enthusiasm and passion that is apparent as you speak on your experiences. I would love to see something that dynamic come back and be done well and think it'd be great if local game stores hosted something like this.

  • @battlebrothertifesrolilios4423
    @battlebrothertifesrolilios4423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Anyone else get a unus annus vibe from the whole ending the game after two years?

  • @dukeraze9117
    @dukeraze9117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I have watched this religiously now for about a year an a half every week.

  • @archangelmichaelhawking
    @archangelmichaelhawking 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing about league of legends, they used to kind of do things like that, where the item 'ionian boots of lucidity' came about due to a lore fight between two factions, Ionia fighting for its freedom from the evil enslavers Noxus, and there was an actual game that was streamed to determine the outcome of the lore and items in game. Then in the aftermath of the Noxue loss, the character 'Swain' rose to power and become the head of the nation after defeating the old ruler in combat. Because of this, he got a new 'Tyrant' skin. Riot Games drifted away from this form of storytelling and retconned the old lore to write their own story in a more traditional sense.

  • @psachickennugget8617
    @psachickennugget8617 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m honestly jealous of this, but I’m also glad you let me know this happened. I’ll forever envy an experience like this, but I’m also really happy knowing that something like it can and has happened, and therefore could happen again.

  • @TheGamingCabby
    @TheGamingCabby 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Bayushi Shoju, Scorpion clan champion, lead a coup against the Imperial Palace and killed Hantei... XXXVIII. They held the capital for 6 days before Shoju was slain and Hantei Sotorii (XXXIX), his son, took back the thrown. In his anger, he disbanded the scorpion clan, and took Shoju's wife as his concubine. This pissed off a certain Scorpion Shugenja, Yogo Junzo, who decided to open the first black scroll as a way of taking vengeance, letting Fu Leng back into the world and releasing a deadly Wasting Disease which would eventually claim the life of the new Hantei Emperor.
    I also haven't read the books, I DM the tabletop RPG and it should be noted if you like this style of "The things that happen in X game can affect the future of the game", look into Heroes of Rokugan which is a long running living campaign that works the same way where players actions in different games at conventions and online etc.. change what happens in the future of it. For aspiring DMs there's around 60 modules on their website to look into for ideas on running stuff.

  • @gregorywishon1274
    @gregorywishon1274 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video caused me to finish my collection of imperial -jade L5R.
    I play-tested 0 edition with my friends who knew some of the creators, (lucky for me) truly inspirational. Thanks.

  • @ruolbu
    @ruolbu ปีที่แล้ว

    three things this reminds me off
    - Twitchplayspokemon
    - World Crossfire Day
    - The Dark Eye
    Twitchplaypokemon is definitely one of those things where being present during the runtime of the story is essential to actually get it. Checking the stream, going to bed, waking up, checking the stream, going to work, sneakily checking the stream, going home, checking the stream and cursing everytime that you missed something essential because you were on the bus or asleep or had to do this darn day job... getting anxious as major milestones approached and getting frustrated when there were days of no progress. None of that can really be replicated by reading a wiki, not even by checking out what remains of the streams. It was a one of a kind experience.
    World Crossfire Day is an event similar to that experience you had during the last bit, of being a general relaying orders. Lindybeige organised it and while I was not present, only hearing about it from his videos, it sounds amazing. People all over the world getting up at ungodly hours to play a WW2 wargame at the same time and simulate a shifting and evolving and unpredictable battfield where different tables affected one another.
    The Dark Eye is the English name for a german TTRPG "Das Schwarze Auge" (DSA). It kinda is like a German Dungeons and Dragons but the community ended up very different from what I've gathered. I never played that game myself. Apparently while D&D had the philosophy that each table has their own world, tweaked to their liking, DSA has a canon. And that canon was build over decades and decades with community events deciding over the future of the canon, with player characters becoming major story NPCs, with narrative threads being developed in LARP sessions, the while deal. Again, I've not been a part of that, but it sounds to me like it rivals the significance of your game

  • @Fiddlemaster56
    @Fiddlemaster56 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I am impressed with how Matthew could remember so many Japanese names and pronounce them without stumbling through this video. Wow.

    • @LeMayJoseph
      @LeMayJoseph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You do it the same way people remember Pokemon facts!

  • @leolinguini260
    @leolinguini260 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    About the league of Legends: There used to be extensive back stories, weakly newsletters (presented as a newspaper made by for in game civilians) and events popping up every so often. However it wasn't met with a lot of interest and ultimately cut out,
    Seems that most players of LoL were just interested in bashing eachother up.

    • @AugustBurnsSam
      @AugustBurnsSam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially verbally.

    • @sandyholmerin2925
      @sandyholmerin2925 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      the lore is though way more expansive now it's just that it has nothing to do with the actual game except for the characters

    • @AlmendraBaez
      @AlmendraBaez 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leo Chantziaras if you dont have that element of gamers affecting that story is hard to keep the interest

    • @leolinguini260
      @leolinguini260 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damnit, you scared me. You look the spitting image of my ex...

    • @megadeathx
      @megadeathx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They used to offer you the opportunity to make an in game item if you introduced X friends to the game, and a new character if you introduced Y friends to the game. They never actually honored that promise though. So fuck those guys, fuck Riot.

  • @bruced648
    @bruced648 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a midwest rep for five rings publishing (subsidiary of AEG). at local stores I hosted official tournaments. if we had 25+ participants, the winner would receive an actual katana. I gave away thousands of cards during demos and as prizes. the day of thunder prize was a full size and wearable samurai armor. part of the CCGs premise was to evolve the game into a RPG. both were highly successful.
    the games and the story were amazing and I am glad to have been a part of the games success. huge shout out to Mindy (S-L). for somehow managing all the events taking place across north America!

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember an RPG buddy of mine and he loved this game. I never played it, but I went to a game house once where he would play with other people. This was around 2008, I guess.

  • @darylejones9269
    @darylejones9269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watched this for the second time in as many years. I have many fond memories of playing the game and some great stories about victory at the last moment. I also enjoyed playing in the tournaments hoping that my clan at that moment would prevail and get something great for the next expansion.
    I do have to disagree about multiplayer though. It enhanced the game. Making alliances to support attackers or defenders so they could win or to backstab them as they were almost at victory. One person even left our gaming group because of the strategies of multiplayer.
    This is a great game and I am also sad that no one has tried to do a similar immersive game. Even bridging live action role playing to affect the story was a great aspect.
    L5R is in my opinion the best game that had been made.

  • @olafbressel5249
    @olafbressel5249 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matt (and whoever is interested ;) ), you might want to have a look at the Dark Eye roleplaying game. It is not completely comparable, but it as a continous narrative for over 20 years in Germany, a bi-monthly newspaper and major events are played out in multi group sessions at conventions. Great video anyway :D

  • @patrickwaldeck6681
    @patrickwaldeck6681 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video got me into l5r, and about 3 months ago i started a 4th edition L5R game with some randos from the internet. Since then we have all become good friends, and Togashi Hinati, Hida Fugi, Moshi Takahide, and Doji Saito have battled the Lying Darkness, demons of the Realm of Slaughter, an order of corrupt monks, and most recently a murderous Rakshasa in their valient efforts to save the Empire and serve the Empress Iwieko.

  • @AshleyMires
    @AshleyMires 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact, The original Author of L5R went to a LARP my father ran at a convention. He shook my fathers hand and said he had one of the best nights of his life. He also said that he had run the Best LARP of L5R he had ever been to. And told him that he was doing wonders for the story.

    • @AshleyMires
      @AshleyMires 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His Werewolf the Apocalypse LARP was also heard around the world and caused Get Of Fenris around the world attacking Glass-Walkers. It was so bad the Head of the world wide Camarilla had to intervene to stop the literal war.

  • @Runehammer1
    @Runehammer1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Good stuff

  • @SuccubusKayko
    @SuccubusKayko 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sir Colville. I don't know if you've ever heard of the LothFR roleplaying game, but I have pdf copies if you would like me to send them to you. It take place, I believe (haven't read them in a while) after the events of the original card game's outcome. The majority of the lore is about the Totori line taking over as the leaders of the empire. A group of mine played it about 5-6 years ago and I think it was the most immersed and the most fun I've ever had in a roleplaying game. There are two versions, there was one that was, I believe, created by AEG, I may be wrong, and another version that was a third party conversion to 3rd or 3.5 edition of D&D. Please let me know if you are interested and I'd be happy to send you what I have.

  • @mceveb
    @mceveb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I revisit this beautiful rant about this beautiful game every few years and it genuinely reinvigorates me.

  • @Jscallen13
    @Jscallen13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clan Scorpion Player here: I still mourn this game.

  • @Corvus-fw2hr
    @Corvus-fw2hr 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What an elegant design for a game. I have the RPG 3rd Edition D&D books for this and it reads so well. I'll probably pick up the FF version. Because I hate having money. And food.

  • @little_isalina
    @little_isalina 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    So this game is what the story of Gamers: Hands of Fate was based on!

  • @cthellis
    @cthellis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just joined an L5R group and was chatting with friends, and one asked "What is L5R?" and I told a helluva tale of the CCG, my only love that could be greated than M:tG at the time. Afterward I was looking for some vidya to help show rules/gameplay of the old CCG, and found this instead.
    Could weep openly listening to this, and remembering those days. An absolutely phenomenal era. I cannot think of another game where I'd get to a regional finals and we'd end with diplomacy. (Faithful Crane Clan, here.)
    I regret but that I cannot give you a few dozen more 👍s for this video.

  • @MarcusForsbergGM
    @MarcusForsbergGM 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always love matts thumbnails. Like take this one for example, his face is that of full terror but his eyes are completly dead.