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Hey Pat, I was rewatching this bracket, and the part towards the end where you and Kiwi wondered if David Gallagher was the most-represented voice actor on the bracket got me wondering how true that was, so I figured I would go through the copy of the bracket myself to see how close you guys were, and this is the data I found: Haley Joel Osment (Sora/Data-Sora) - 14 quotes David Gallagher (Riku/Riku Replica/Riku-Ansem) - 11 quotes Quinton Flynn (Axel/Lea) - 4 quotes Jesse McCartney (Roxas/Ventus) - 3 quotes Willa Holland (Aqua) - 3 quotes Wayne Allwine (former Mickey Mouse) - 3 quotes Bill Farmer (Goofy) - 3 quotes Jodi Benson (Ariel) - 2 quotes Susanne Blakeslee (Maleficent) - 2 quotes Tony Anselmo (Donald Duck) - 2 quotes Mena Suvari (KH2 Aerith) - 2 quotes Mandy Moore (KH1 Aerith, ironically not KH3 Rapunzel) - 1 quote to many Bret Iwan (current Mickey Mouse) - 1 quote Will Friedle (Seifer) - 1 quote Rutger Hauer (KH3 Xehanort) - 1 quote Alyson Stoner (Current Kairi) - 1 quote Shanelle Gray (Larxene) - 1 quote James Patrick Stuart (Xigbar) - 1 quote Derek Stephen Prince (Vexen) - 1 quote, yeeeees Sean Marquette (KH2 Pence) - 1 _____ Ryan Potter (Hiro) - 1 quote Pat Carroll (Ursula) - 1 quote Richard Epcar (Current Ansem SoD) - 1 quote Billy Zane - (Former Ansem SoD, here by technicality because of Riku-Ansem) - 1 quote Then finally, there were 3 lines that were not voiced.
Also, while I'm collecting mostly-pointless data from your bracket, I was personally curious to see the distribution of the KH games themselves throughout the bracket, so here's that: KH2 - 14 quotes (Pat's anti-KH2 bias strikes again, smh) KH1 - 12 quotes KH3 (including ReMind) - 11 quotes Dream Drop Distance - 9 quotes (2/3rds of the quotes come from Sora's campaign, only 3 for Riku's) Re:Chain Of Memories - 8 quotes (5 quotes from Riku's campaign, 3 from Sora's) Birth By Sleep - 3 quotes (2 quotes from Aqua's campaign, 1 from Ventus's, and none from Terra's; Pat's pro-Terra bias strikes again for real this time) 358/2 Days- 3 quotes Re:Coded - 2 quotes The mobile game that started at X, became Unchained, and fulfilled its duty through Union Cross - 2 quotes
Up until 3 all the worlds were rather empty. I think because BBS pointed out events you know would have a lot of people like a ball or Phil games shows how silly it looks.
Considering it takes place within the data Twilight Town, I always chalked up the “owned you lamers” line to DiZ trying to emulate teen language and failing miserably
@@KeybladeMasterAndyfor real though. Seifer always had some weird quirks in how he talks. Like the way we see him invent "chickenwuss" within the first hour of the game shows his sense of coolness/humour.
21:31 It's not some translation error (at least not in this line). He actually does refer to smell - 匂い - in the Japanese version too. The Japanese line was "Come on out, Ansem. I can tell you're here from the smell." (出てこいよ アンセム 匂いでわかる). Similar case for other lines such as 30:58. (you can translate 匂い as aura, but only in the sense of the "feel" a person gives off emotionally, like how in English you could say "He has a cool/dangerous aura" to mean "The impression I get is that he's really cool/dangerous", not "aura" in the supernatural sense) 22:56 Actually, in the Japanese version of KH1, Kairi shuts herself down too (or at least, she opens the door for Sora to do it). In Japanese, instead of her asking "I can't help?" and Sora replying "You'd kind of be in my way.", she instead asks "Would I be a hindrance?" (足手まとい？), and Sora pretty much replies with "Well, I guess you could say that." (まぁ そういうこと). 24:37 You probably could already guess such, but it wasn't a pun in the Japanese version. In that line, he doesn't use the normal terms for the KH entity-type "Nobody" (ノーバディnōbadi), instead calling himself "one who doesn't exist" (存在しない者 sonzai shinai mono) - which does also describe Nobodies, but isn't a pun. 31:45 In Japanese, she just says "I am Strelitzia. Right here is a place only for me." (私はストレリチア、ここは私だけの場所。) 46:40 Just as an interesting tidbit, in the Japanese version, Sora doesn't say anything like "You're stupid". He instead says "The Heartless are a dangerous force." (ハートレスは危険な力だ). So Sora calling Riku that was a localization addition inserted into the dialogue for whatever reason (the following line about hearts being swallowed is correct though). 1:28:44 The Japanese version explicitly avoids this specific issue you have with the line (and honestly, I think the overall line was more touching and less corny in the Japanese version). In Japanese, he says "Xion, let's have ice cream again. The three of us." (シオン また３人でアイスを食べよう). 1:37:45 The Japanese had it as "I am... We are... not alone!" (僕は― 僕たちはー 一人じゃない！). So in that version, he was correcting himself. 2:00:02 Funny you say that, because in the Japanese version, she does say “(Because,) it’s almost like you two are brothers.” (だって あなたたちまるで兄弟みたい). 2:26:25 The translation isn’t wrong here (あんた どっから来たんだ does mean “Where…did you come from?”), but I wanted to explain this part since I think the delivery contributes to the misinterpretation of what Sora is really asking here (either a change of delivery or perhaps rewording the direct translation would have maybe fixed this). Sora isn’t asking this question in the sense of “Where the heck did you appear from all of a sudden!?”. He is asking in the sense of “Wait a second… Where are you from? Are you… not from this world?”. The guy is talking about worlds, and Sora wasn’t paying attention to the significance of that at first, and then he realizes the implication (that a guy he doesn’t know talking about “this world” as if it is one of many could be from another world). This is also why in the Japanese version, he pauses his sentence and goes “Ah” in realization before asking the question, as opposed to the localization where it translated his “Ah!” exclamation as a questioning “Huh?”. Sora’s question is actually focusing on the “where are you from” aspect and not the “how did you appear before me” aspect.
Omg yes, I played Days in Japanese originally and it’s clear he’s begging her not to die, where in English the scene and its emotional impact gets ruined because you knee-jerk “wait, did he just ask her who he ought to replace her with?”
The worst part is I effectively replayed the scene in my head without "you had your perfect little script", and it actually works decently well. We get a cool character moment for a fan favourite character, a nice callback to his best game in 358 days, and a...okay-ish joke. End it after he says "What, bad timing?" and go to Xigbar angrily yelling at Xehanort, and the scene honestly works *so much* better. It's almost infuriating just how much Axel refusing to shut the hell up kills the momentum.
The Seifer "Lamers" quote is extra funny because it triple-dips on its mid 2000's 'tude. We've obviously got Lamers, but we've also got "Totally", which is an infamously 90's and 2000's era surfer bro thing, AND "Owned", which is another youth slang term that peaked in the mid 2000's in the same sentence. The fact that he delivers such an immediately dated line with such bravado is so admirable.
my thing with the ice cream line is also, on top of everything else, Roxas is actively forgetting Xion exists in that moment. He blurts her name because it just suddenly came to him again. He could probably think of much better thing to say to his dying friend if he still had his memories of her.
People are unbelievably harsh on what this literal 1-year-old says as he grieves his best friend’s death while simultaneously forgetting her existence. Like…given the circumstances I bet you’d blurt out some dumb shit, too.
19:19 The best variation of the "They'll pay for this" meme is definitely "Disney when they make the Kingdom Hearts Collection available to buy on Steam and EGS."
I'll defend "I'm me" a bit. It's not supposed to be a line meant to confuse on who's the real Riku and it's not supposed to be Replica trying to say he's the real Riku. It's Replica being incredibly envious of the fact that Riku can say he is who he is. He's envious that Riku has an identity to confidently call his own. Riku Replica can't say "I'm me" and mean it, he's a fake clone of someone else. He can never be Riku so it drives him crazy that he can't have what Riku has; an identity. Or maybe I just have lower standards, idk
my guess is that a good chunk of them either seen it without the rant context or they forgot the rest of the conversation that line came from. the 'I'm me' line is a derpy line out of contest which I imagine is the version that most people remember it as
Nice video. I am taking my time and watching it in chunks. One minor note. 1:05:25 The commentary from Sora and Riku on Neku's and Beat's full names is actually continuing a running gag from their original game, TWEWY. Beat's given name is oddly long, not-tough-sounding, and contains a more common name within its syllabic bounds. And since it is always a pain to translate jokes, they took a few liberties in the English version of TWEWY. Neku's response (in English) to hearing Beat's full name the first time was "Die...bee...what? Is that some kind of curse?" So the DDD writers and translators were kind of just working with what they had for this scene.
Oh hey, it’s me 🥝. Fun fact: I LOVE Kingdom Hearts, and I pick on it because I adore it. We can acknowledge goofy (a-hyuck) stuff and still think its source is altogether wonderful.
I think the only defence I have of the KH3 Axel monologue is that he's immediately annihilated not 2 seconds later by Xemnas, and ever since I've wondered if the developers were intentionally trolling with that scene. Like, Axel builds up this big head of steam, says his 4th wall breaking line about how cool he is, swings at Xemnas.... and then his blade gets caught, the music immediately cuts out, Xemnas is like "Is this some kind of fucking joke?" and then he shoots Axel to death. It's perfect, I love it. Axel gets jobbed out so hard. But I don't know whether that whole exchange is meant to be as funny as I find it.
Honestly that's the main reason I do hate that line. The fourth wall breaks from Axel were kinda wearing thin for me by that point but I think I would have forgiven it as his big final pre ass-kicking one liner. It would have been cheesy but it still would have fulfilled that fanservice fulfillment of seeing Axel come back to being the badass he started as. What pushes that line into eyeball rolling territory for me is he gives this not that great boast, and then instantly gets shut down, it just highlights how bad that line is.
I actually love "I'm a bad guy, so you have to go through me." There's something fun about Larxene knowing she's the villain and leaning into it. For all of their darkness talk, all of the various norts or whoever generally think they're doing what's best for the universe and/or the people they care about. Larxene, though? She's evil for the love of the game.
Tbh as a kid this line kinda solidified my love for Larxene because I was like. Oooh. She knows she's bad. I like that! Sure can't wait to beat her up though! Looking back tho the line delivery for.. most of her lines tbh are a bit cringe but I can excuse it
"There's not a single good line reading for Sora in DDD" I'm sorry but were you sleeping at the wheel with "No, Roxas...you're you! We're not the same! I wanted to tell you that. That you deserve as much as I do to be your own person" because I love that read personally
50:00 also this literally happens in blank points, the difference is that it actually makes sense in the context of what Ansem is talking about. A bunch of people who no longer have their own autonomy (those who are 'asleep') are waiting for their rebirth through what would become the events of KH3
Funnily enough, you can split all the good lines Sora says from the bad ones by checking whether he is actually in the 3D model at the time. While he's chatting to Roxas, he's in kh2 mode.
@@liamwhite3522 Yeah, HJO is trying to sound younger when Sora's in the DDD design Personally I don't mind how he sounds but I do understand how it can be grating and handicap his line delivery. I just wanted to point out where I thought it was good because saying all the lines for him in the game are bad is disingenuous to me
on the complete opposite end of the spectrum, i also think "your majest--- i gotta stop that." is not only a rare actually funny ddd sora moment, but is also super well delivered for what it is
Its like... throughout most of the game hes a total dweeb but in that moment he's incredibly wise and that is, imo, one of the best moments in the whole series. Since hes not in his younger form there, it almost makes it seem like the effect of making him look younger also made him dumber somehow
This is how I found out the “fulfill their duty through union cross” wasn’t a meme edit. Not done with the video but so far that actually wins the whole bracket for me.
I thought the same thing. So when I saw it was real, I was sold on calling it the worst line in the series because wtf do you mean “fulfill their duty through union cross”??? You can’t just title drop a mouthful like that 😂
Honestly i wonder if that's some localization bullshit. Maybe there was a title drop in there but the localizer just decided to go ham with it just cause they could. I wanna know what that line is in japanese.
My most hated line personally is "Good Luck" from Repliku in KH3. Because it's entirely a mistranslation! It's supposed to be "Take care of her", which echoes Riku's last line in KH1 and also sort of feels impactful on the replica's own faux-relationship with Namine. But instead it's just "good luck". come on.
That's, nuts. You're awful, translators. For real though that's as wet of a farther if not more so as "opened kingdom hearts" As a person who was meme-ing Riki Replica coming back for years only to be completely taken aback when he actually was fucking real in KH3, that is SUCH a massive disservice. That's dishonor on KH1, dishonor on COM, eugh
I feel like I have a similar train of thought with the "that is so unfriendly" line but I'm ending up at the opposite reaction lol. low stakes, mild antagonization from just a couple of dudes, lame and direct response! it's like he's not used to such an average form of rudeness so he lets out a very confused, very genuine "well _that's_ not very nice!" he's used to villains trying to kill him dead, not some guys mildly manhandling him because it's literally their job lol
Yeah, they're just citizens of the world as far as he knows. Moving straight to murder as if they were some heartless might be a bit extreme if he doesn't want to become the world's most wanted for no reason.
The Riku, “You and your messed up memories are always in the way, Sora!” reminds me of Christopher Walken’s delivery in the Country Bears movie: “This is not over…Bears!”
I definitely feel like there's a bit too much 'meta' revolved around calling "You'd kind of be in the way." a bad line. Sora says it with a friendly chuckle and Kairi takes it in stride because, in KH1, it's just objectively true. Kairi's not a fighter, and the majority of the game is spent trying to find her. Sure she saves Sora from being a Heartless, but he only became a Heartless to save her in the first place. If she did come along, then what? Turn the rest of the game into an escort mission? No matter how you spin it, in the context of KH1 that line is perfectly fine. Only when you inject how the rest of the series treats Kairi does it sound even remotely questionable.
Yeah tbh and i get the impression in that scene that she fully knows that. she has absolutely no experience fighting or really travelling with any autonomy to the other worlds, so it would largely have been her learning everything new like sora does at the beginning of the game. I get the sense that she realizes that too and it was really just a joking between friends thing
To the Kairi's "Please work!" line's credit... I'd love to see sassy Kairi back, of course. But I also think it'd be a bit odd if she was quippy fighting the guy who killed her immediately after being miraculously resurrected. Even standing up to Saix in KH2, she was still hesitant and only seemed to get her bearings with Riku and Namine's support. And Saix is definitely less threatening than full power Master Xehanort throwing planets at you.
That is fair. She may have the power AT THAT POINT to defeat Xehanort, but it is taken that even if she is a better Keyblade wielder in extreme situations she is not on Xehanort’s level. Of course she would be frantic and hope she could blast him with her newfound power.
I feel like Sora's "Huh? Wait, where did you come from?" was _supposed_ to be him realizing he's never seen this cloak guy before in his life, meaning he's not from Destiny Islands and thus leading into "so you're from another world!". This scene happens on the second day, just after the trio lays out their plan to visit other worlds, so it would be thematically appropriate. Instead, Sora just kinda sounds insane for a brief moment and then returns to normal, I guess.
"They'll pay for this", among other quotes, is SO advocative on the best aspect of Kingdom Hearts, imo. No other story would even dare be as earnest as KH without some quippy remark about how silly it is. I remember seeing Beetlejuice Beetlejuice in theaters the other day and there was a trailer for a Dwayne Johnson & Chris Evans action movie where they rescue Santa Claus or something, and EVERY single line Chris Evans said was something like "Whoa......you mean we're saving Santa? what the fuck???" man if kingdom hearts can have confidence in its writing then you can too, hollywood.
I think it's part of why Kingdom Hearts has the reputation it does. It's so utterly sincere most of the time (except for Post-Days Axel, unfortunately), even when what its doing is patently absurd, or cheesy, or just plain weird. And I think it's a stark contrast to a lot of mainstream media that gets made these days.
That and “Did somebody mention The Door to Darkness?” are quintessential Kingdom Hearts. Both are clearly absurd to absolutely everyone except for the game itself, which is fully convinced it’s doing the coolest shit ever.
@@MisterZebra42 It's why they worked even a little. "They'll pay for this" is still a little silly, because no shot they're actually gonna kill Goofy. But Mickey and Donald so serious in the moment that it still kind of comes together at the end.
I know it's not how brackets are normally structured, but it would have been really funny if you reordered the brackets to have the 7 seeds go up against the 13 seeds.
RIP the Seifer battle bark: "Isn't this roMANtic!" Also honorable mention to the queen of hearts, for the crime of "attempted theft of my heart," which goes in the "lines that make people giggle with innuendo."
What's funny is that the "Riku smell" thing isn't a mistranslation at all, I dunno who came up with the aura explanation. The Japanese also uses "smell", and the manga even apparently makes a joke about it.
uhhhh i mean the japanese word for smell (匂い or 臭い) literally can mean aura though, it's in the dictionary. but even then i do think that usage for it is pretty rare and that the writers did mean "smell" in the literal sense lol
Lea really came back to life and then immediately decided the best way to make people remember him is to be as cringe as possible as often as possible.
Honestly, I don’t know if there’s any acting choice Aqua’s VA could’ve made to make that line sound good, especially with the limitation of having to at least _kinda_ match the original Japanese dub’s timing. It was probably hard enough to keep a straight face in the recording studio while saying that, lol.
It also should be noted she had recently faced a wave of Heartless and that is triggering for her. Maybe Aqua, in addition to being defeated, is emotionally drained as well.
2:24:24 I've always treated the "there can't be 2 keyblade masters" line as childhood play. Kids playing would use a term like "master" to describe who's in charge/better when they're playing. This goes so well with Riku tossing Sora the wooden sword shortly after, IMO.
A reason for why the timing and the lines in general in Re:CoM are so fucken weird is because they didn’t sync their mouths to the English lines, and thus the lines were read to fit the Japanese movements. Repliku taking a pause before yelling Sora or Vexen’s added-on “yes” probably would’ve been all-together cut if the mouths had been actually synced. Doesn’t take away from those lines still being shit/hilarious! Loved this! Was in the middle of binging The Wire but had to drop that for this festivity!
I noticed the translation quality took a big dip between the gba and ps2 versions. Just look at the dialogue in the original and you'll see how much smoother it feels.
As weird as it is, FFX's "WithYunaByMySide" is still the weirdest case of Square trying to make localized dialog fit. But X had a thing where if the audio files weren't the same length then the game would crash, I don't know if KH has the same problem
@@velvetbutterfly Can't speak for the other KH games but all of ReCoM's cutscenes are pre-rendered so I doubt the audio files needed to be the same length in that game. Also doubt the current games are bound by that rule as it seems like something they should've been able to figure out by now. Maybe KH1 and KH2 had similar limitations?
I actually really like "I'm me, he says." I honestly think the line reading and weird pacing do it such a disservice. Riku replica is so upset that Riku is able to claim to be his own person while he can only be a reflection, and hearing Riku essentially say so is frustrating to him. I think an angrier or more dejected read would fix the problems with the line. It's a bit absurd, but the situation is absurd, and Riku Replica is just reacting to the painful absurdity.
I'd argue Roxas's "I" in his statement is because as of now, he doesn't include Axel as a friend, due to the lies and obfuscation that he's done. So who else will Roxas include in the ice-cream eating?
Pretty much all of Riku's lines in ReMind deserve to be here on delivery alone. Did they sedate David Gallagher before the recording session? He was fine in the base game.
Okay, I'm gonna go with a somewhat opposing take on "He did it. He opened Kingdom Hearts." First and foremost, let's get this out of the way: It is a bad delivery. I think of the major cast, Willa Holland as Aqua might be my least favourite performance. But I don't really agree with Pat saying the line needs urgency behind it. For Aqua, especially from 0.2 onwards, I read a lot of her lines as this flat, emotionally dead monotone because of just how drained and mentally exhausted she is from her time in the Realm of Darkness. Like, she doesn't have the energy to emote anymore, because she's so close to just giving up on everything. So I actually kinda like what I felt they were going for with that line, where Aqua's trying not to just...give up on seeing Xehanort open Kingdom Hearts. THAT BEING SAID, I do think the execution is sub-par. I just think it's a different kind of bad than what Pat said at 3:06:50.
I quite like it because of that. She’s just so done with everything not related to her friends that she just, zones out. I would too if I was her all of that shit she went through was crazy.
Yeah i feel like that line was supposed to be her feeling overwhelmed and defeated by that. It wasn't *meant* to be an urgent line, more of a "im severely depressed and this just made it worse actually" thing. Because TBH at this point in the story Aqua very clearly is deeply depressed because of her time in the Dark Realm and honestly everything else that has happened to her before and during it. I honestly don't have an issue with that line at all besides the general sense of I dont know if her VA has ever really given a lot of life to the character. personally, hot take, but i dont like most of her line delivery across the series so this just felt like the usual underwhelming performance
@@owenbridgers I remember playing 0.2 and being pleasantly surprised by Willa's performance in that game. I thought she was quite solid. I might not think that if I went and replayed it now, but from my memory, she was solid there. And it's because I felt that her performance, while occasionally falling a little flat, felt appropriately worn-down and jaded after everything she went through.
@@bnashee That is totally fair. As I said, Holland's performance is probably my least favourite of our major cast, so I get why it feels like more of the same for you. I just felt like 0.2 and 3 were heading in a direction that Holland was able to pull off a lot more effectively than what BBS asked of her. I still don't *love* the end result, but I at least felt in later games I got what they were going for. Because yes, Aqua is severely depressed by this point in time, and while I don't expect it to be put under the kind of spotlight that it could be, I do feel that given the flashback upon seeing the Demon Tide, I do think it's something the developers are aware of and acknowledging for her.
both “dark rescue” and the kh2 mickey response feel like examples of translations that don’t quite land. there’s a similar moment in kh3 at the end of monstropolis, where mike says something along the lines of, “the harder you try, the funnier it gets,” but he’s making air quotes while he says it, implying some sort of sarcastic, play-on-words joke that exists in the japanese dialogue, but didn’t make sense in translation, and thus was changed. “dark rescue” feels like a bad direct translation attempt, and mickey’s “of course i do!” feels like an improper grammatical error that happened as a similar translation error.
For the king mickey kh2 line, it could even be a mistranslated Donald line that's mucking everything up. If he said something like "Do you even know what Ansem looks like?" The answer "Of course I do!" makes sense. In fact, it makes more sense, because while Donald has seen Ansem SoD, did Mickey ever see him? *Does* Mickey know what Ansem looks like in KH2?
I think "of course I do" was probably meant to be responding to Donald asking "do you remember" instead of "did you forget." I think there was a scripting change, not a translation error
That "Of course I do" suffers not from the delivery of Mickey but the delivery from Donald. I'm almost 100% sure Donald was supposed to say: "Do you REMEMBER what Ansem looked like?"
Maybe not in KH1, but Mickey definitely saw Ansem in Chain of Memories when he protected Riku from him. And in Days when Riku met Mickey in the forest disguised as Ansem.
_Someone_ got the line wrong in the first scene. I'm actually thinking it might have been Tony, because if the script said: "Do you _remember_ what Ansem looked like, your majesty?" The response: "Of course I do, and this is him." Would be correct.
21:40 People say that but it's not really accurate, given the scene with Naminé where Riku pinches his nose, and people double checked the translation and it is indeed talking about smell
Regarding the whole smell thing, the sense of smell is deeply connected to memory. So not only is it important intimately between characters who care for each other, but it fits the whole memory thing CoM and Re:CoM are about. Also, you could chalk it up to be Riku being bad with talking with girls. (Granted, he still ends up spending a year with Naminé and then another year later on once he helps her get an actual body.)
I will forever have a soft spot for "That was undeniable proof that we totally owned you lamers." because its just so perfectly dumb. Its said by an FF character who we aren't supposed to like with the Roxas' POV, its dated beyond belief, and its just so darn quotable. I quote it constantly with my friends, probably my most quoted KH line alongside "Now that's just plain rude!" (Demyx, right before fighting him in OC)
While it isnt an excuse for the line, I've always kinda assumed the Aqua "i've seen what you've done" line was writen as a line to try and build up this almost antagonist in Aqua for Terra's campaign, since we play Terra first and dont play Aqua until the end, I feel like its almost like a "oh no what did aqua see" moment, or at least thats what was supposed to be intended
also genuinely think the lamers line is one of the best lines in the series, unironically. it fits the characterization of this stupid Twilight Town bully group
If we go the pun route, the line might be "turn Santa Kurōsu into Santa Hātoresu" I don't know what the actual dialog in game is, I just know that KH uses the english word "heartless" in Japan and Santa gets called either Santa-san or Santa Kurōsu and a villain like Oogie wouldn't use a polite honorific.
Maybe someone else noted it in the comments, but I'm hoping Pat sees someone saying it as a clarification. The two key blade masters line is entirely an English line. In the original Japanese, he says "There can't be two heroes." Note that Riku mentions that Sora is "hero of the keyblade" during the events of the game. He is basically saying that the keyblade can't be wielded by two people, which was true, since the Keyblade picked one person to go with in the original. You can actually mention that the other one IS a badly translated line because Keyblade master took on a bigger meaning later on and so it causes confusion to newer players that probably don't remember these games came out years apart.
Holy crap, I absolutely hear the ice cream stick thing. I was chuckling along with both of you after that and had to repeat it. It sounds like he's got his side lips like super up and saying it with like play scrunch face. Almost like a calm down version of the way someone talks to a dog
I had never seen that "Struggle all you want" line before so hearing that for the first time took me the fuck out. Might be my new favourite out of context KH line.
Personally, I think the Axel “I’m so popular…” line could’ve gone a lot further had you included the entire thing. Not only does he hit you with multiple “zingers” that could’ve ended his little monologue. But then he ends the whole thing with a big wink to the camera as he gives his way overused catchphrase as well with “got it memorized.” And idk if it adds or detracts from the poor quality of the line but the fact that he’s then blasted by Xemnas immediately after saying that makes me laugh every time I see it.
Strelitzia is talking to the Player, but not really. She never meets them, so it's like she's having a conversation with them inside her mind. That's how I took it to be.
yep, that's how i take it too, so it doesnt really register as bad for me, maybe a bit silly but only in the way that some teenager narrating an ideal conversation with someone they're too shy to approach would inherantly be
“I’m me he says” was clearly Riku Replica mocking Riku because he’s jealous he has a real identity. It’s sad that one line undercuts such a great scene. It’s one of Riku’s VA’s best performances.
@@RegularPat yeah, real sad you also had an entire section of the video dedicated to praising Ken Page’s performance, and he passed away between the time you recorded the video and uploaded it. He was a great presence in the two games he was in.
In defense of the ice cream line, im going to say that the same things which make it bad also make it more heartbreaking. It's absolutely juvenile for Roxas to see ice cream and friendship as the same thing, but the fact that he does emphasizes just how innocent he is and how ill equipped he is to handle this devastating loss.
It feels so clear that he lacks the proper words to describe his grief. We know what these things mean to him in context, and it's heart wrenching. I think it's only weird out of context
I've always found the 'I've got some unfinished business with this puppet' line to be so sinister. Geppetto just acknowledged Pinocchio as his 'son' and Riku immediately dehumanizes him and calls him an object, thereby trivializing the relationship that Geppetto just established and giving Riku the mindset that he can now do whatever he wants since he doesn't view him as real. It's a deeply evil power move. I guess, in a real world equivalent, it's like bigots referring to my husband as my 'friend', or even worse a slur, despite knowing full well our relationship. It's maddening.
Haven't finished the video yet, but the first round already has me thinking "AND HERE COMES MICKEY OF-COURSE-I-DO MOUSE WITH A STEEL CHAIR" like, legit that came out of nowhere, but thank you for your service Kiwi lol
Personally, whenever I like to poke fun at the absurdity of Kingdom Hearts (which I adore), I pull out my best Goofy impression, and yell “VENTUS WASN’T ABLE TO DEFEAT VANITAS! THEY STRUCK EACH OTHER DOWN, AND VENTUS’S HEART NEVER RETURNED TO HIM!” “Ahyuck”
1:23:33 I agree, Vexen's "yes" at the end there works extremely well for him as a proud/defiant affirmative to Larxene's denunciation. It also works because Vexen definitely possesses that kind of ego. So hearing his own self-assertion of being a scientist is like direct compliment to himself---and it's totally something he would say to himself in the mirror when he's alone. _"I _*_AM_*_ a scientist, aren't I? Indeed, yesss, yes I am...heheheh.."_
42:00 I feel like another argument against Kairi having such an unconfident line is that Riku and Sora never had any lines like this even in KH1 where they would've been in the same situation as Kairi is now. Sora came out the gate swinging against the Heartless which is maybe saying more about him being young and naive and maybe a little dumb, but I dunno, he didn't even have training which Kairi did. the only thing I can think of that makes sense of Kairi's line is that she's fighting Xehanort as one of her first real fights in the series so I guess it makes a bit more sense as to why that would make her nervous
Kairi is also not only older but has other keyblade wielders to compare herself to. It's a very different frame of reference than a kid who feels invincible going into the unknown half-cocked
I think 'please work' is also kind of a delivery thing. Because you're right, she has little experience - and if she said it like, say, Spider-Man would early in yet another origin story movie, where he's doing something with his webs and he's like 'please work,' like he knows he's doing something crazy but he has to go for it, it'd work. That feels like the intent. But the way it's delivered sounds more pleading and even a little confused, like she has no idea what she's doing at all.
To this day I still don't know what Aqua meant by "you two would make the weirdest brothers" At least Riku smelling darkness fits within the context of ~KH Darkness~ and Namine having the same smell (or aura) as Kairi makes sense because she's Kairi's nobody, so the line explains new story lore in a subtle way despite it coming across creepy and weird. Aqua's is outta nowhere with zero context for this brotherly dynamic with two new characters we don't know, and the game goes on to fail to show us how Terra and Ventus have a "weird brother" relationship. Just completely awful story-wise and line-wise.
I've been turning it over in my head for a while, and I think either "weirdest" has to be a different adjective, or she needs to drop the "would", or both. Either make the trio more of a family dynamic, or make the idea that they could (literally) less weird.
I don't think she meant Terra and Ventus alone, she probably meant them as "my brothers". The way she says it doesn't have to exclude her. I think the point was she views them as family. Like a similar line "You would make the weirdest brother" due to being singular would have it more clear the speaker is refering to themselves.
I actually really like the "no one axes axel line" its got a cheeky 4th wall break in reference to the players but it actually works as an in-universe claim. Axel's whole philosophy is that inside people's memories, he can live forever. And he made a point to be known to everyone he encountered. In a sense he is claiming that because he's built so many connections and impressions (positive and negative) he can't be killed. Because he is so popular and well known in universe and out of universe, he will live forever in other's memories.
🥝How come now I realize that both "Kairi is Inside me" and "How do you know that is even safe inside Riku" both take place in the same exact room in Hollow Bastion? What an odd coincidence that both the sugestive "inside of" quotes take place in the exact same place in the same exact platform.
A lot of the bad line readings where they have awkward pauses (like "your messed up memories, Sora") probably have to do with how japanese delivery works and how the english actors then have to adapt to that. nowadays it's more common to re-do the lip syncing in different languages to get around this issue, but in the 2000s square had a tendency to force its english voice actors to match the existing lip syncing that was animated to the Japanese actors' performances. I know Hedy Buress (Yuna's VA) mentioned how that made it difficult to act in FFX and when working on FFX-2 she didn't try as hard to match the animation, leading to moments where her performance doesn't match it (at least in the original, I don't remember if it was fixd in the HD remaster) but her line reads feel more natural as a result.
In a way I like that in FFX, Yuna felt shy and reserved. Raised by the church and almost pushed into following her father's shadow. In X-2, after being with Tidus and deciding her own fate, she's a lot more free spirited and emotive in gesture and in voice.
I kinda understand the "taken to the bailey" thing in that I did it myself at one point. In one of the Naruto games, one of the characters gets a line like "Pleeease, show me how powerful you are" or something like that in a mocking, sarcastic tone, but somehow I attached to the delivery of "puleEEEAAse" and I can't imagine it without making it as whiny and silly as possible.
Alright, regular pat, your previous videos finally talked me into giving KH1 a fair chance. I avoided it for a while because of how jank and slow it is, but I finally played it through because I wanted to keep the whole underdog mindset in mind, and now KH1 has gone from being bad in my mind to being o-kay. I still think its age holds it back in a few aspects, but it's gone from being my 6th favorite KH game to my 3rd favorite
Aqua never even knew about Terra scaring Snow White. She literally doesn’t know anything. She only listened to Maleficent once and assumed it was true.
Absent the rest of DDD sora, I’d be inclined to read “that’s a weird name” as Sora joking around and being playful - certainly in KH3 i’d read it that way
The name is weird because of how long it is, as most Japanese names are two kanji long, sometimes rarely three. Daisukenojo is 「大輔之丞」 in kanji. That's four kanji long, man. Also, it's "Daisuke-nojo". That's like if you're name was Jonathonremdis. That's a weird name. Also, bro his name is Bito. BEAT-O. THAT'S a fucking weird name in Japanese. That's like naming your son a random Japanese word, like Furo, (bath in Japanese). No one normal has a name like that.
2:10:58 I read Goofy’s emphasis on “betray” as if that isn’t what he is doing at all, to either Sora and Mickey. He knows who Mickey is as a King and as a Person (mouse), and he knows that Mickey would understand that Goofy is going to stand by his friends because that is a right and just thing to do, even if it delays him in finding his King. So to him, he isn’t betraying either, but is just using the words back at Riku
I think the problem with the two keyblade masters line is how goddamn fast Riku says it. It sounds like someone jammed the words in his mouth and hes vomiting them out.
"It all started with a BIRTH BY SLEEP, and then ONcE a CHAIN OF MEMORIES formed, over 358 DAYS spread OVER TWO individuals, it would only take a SECOND for a new enCODing to form. And then a DREAM, DROPed from a DISTANCE created THREE. And once the MELODY OF MEMORIES is sung, only then shall we go FORTH."
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Thank you for doing this! My partner and I had a lot of fun watching the bracket and agreeing/disagreeing with you and each other, so the chance to do our own one is super cool!
Hey Pat, I was rewatching this bracket, and the part towards the end where you and Kiwi wondered if David Gallagher was the most-represented voice actor on the bracket got me wondering how true that was, so I figured I would go through the copy of the bracket myself to see how close you guys were, and this is the data I found:
Haley Joel Osment (Sora/Data-Sora) - 14 quotes
David Gallagher (Riku/Riku Replica/Riku-Ansem) - 11 quotes
Quinton Flynn (Axel/Lea) - 4 quotes
Jesse McCartney (Roxas/Ventus) - 3 quotes
Willa Holland (Aqua) - 3 quotes
Wayne Allwine (former Mickey Mouse) - 3 quotes
Bill Farmer (Goofy) - 3 quotes
Jodi Benson (Ariel) - 2 quotes
Susanne Blakeslee (Maleficent) - 2 quotes
Tony Anselmo (Donald Duck) - 2 quotes
Mena Suvari (KH2 Aerith) - 2 quotes
Mandy Moore (KH1 Aerith, ironically not KH3 Rapunzel) - 1 quote to many
Bret Iwan (current Mickey Mouse) - 1 quote
Will Friedle (Seifer) - 1 quote
Rutger Hauer (KH3 Xehanort) - 1 quote
Alyson Stoner (Current Kairi) - 1 quote
Shanelle Gray (Larxene) - 1 quote
James Patrick Stuart (Xigbar) - 1 quote
Derek Stephen Prince (Vexen) - 1 quote, yeeeees
Sean Marquette (KH2 Pence) - 1 _____
Ryan Potter (Hiro) - 1 quote
Pat Carroll (Ursula) - 1 quote
Richard Epcar (Current Ansem SoD) - 1 quote
Billy Zane - (Former Ansem SoD, here by technicality because of Riku-Ansem) - 1 quote
Then finally, there were 3 lines that were not voiced.
Also, while I'm collecting mostly-pointless data from your bracket, I was personally curious to see the distribution of the KH games themselves throughout the bracket, so here's that:
KH2 - 14 quotes (Pat's anti-KH2 bias strikes again, smh)
KH1 - 12 quotes
KH3 (including ReMind) - 11 quotes
Dream Drop Distance - 9 quotes (2/3rds of the quotes come from Sora's campaign, only 3 for Riku's)
Re:Chain Of Memories - 8 quotes (5 quotes from Riku's campaign, 3 from Sora's)
Birth By Sleep - 3 quotes (2 quotes from Aqua's campaign, 1 from Ventus's, and none from Terra's; Pat's pro-Terra bias strikes again for real this time)
358/2 Days- 3 quotes
Re:Coded - 2 quotes
The mobile game that started at X, became Unchained, and fulfilled its duty through Union Cross - 2 quotes
You forgot "Listen to those cheers, man" while Terra is in an empty coliseum.
Up until 3 all the worlds were rather empty. I think because BBS pointed out events you know would have a lot of people like a ball or Phil games shows how silly it looks.
really pushing the 10 minute mark patty
i need to get those midroll ads
Didn't it get changed to 8 minutes at some point? Or did they change it back?
@@PlayerZeroStartpretty sure it went 8 then 15 then shorts then 10 again
@@CallMeCardboardit is currently 8 minutes
TH-cam premium members, wasn’t such what that reference was
Considering it takes place within the data Twilight Town, I always chalked up the “owned you lamers” line to DiZ trying to emulate teen language and failing miserably
oh man I always loved this interpretation, i regret not bringing it up in the moment
To go deeper into character, I wouldn't put it past Seifer to really try and make it a thing.
@@KeybladeMasterAndyfor real though. Seifer always had some weird quirks in how he talks.
Like the way we see him invent "chickenwuss" within the first hour of the game shows his sense of coolness/humour.
@@velvetbutterfly He says it in Final Fantasy 8 too.
@@KeybladeMasterAndy I was referring to his home game of FF8
"Santa Heartless" gives the same energy as "Pokemon GO to the polls"
21:31 It's not some translation error (at least not in this line). He actually does refer to smell - 匂い - in the Japanese version too. The Japanese line was "Come on out, Ansem. I can tell you're here from the smell." (出てこいよ アンセム 匂いでわかる). Similar case for other lines such as 30:58. (you can translate 匂い as aura, but only in the sense of the "feel" a person gives off emotionally, like how in English you could say "He has a cool/dangerous aura" to mean "The impression I get is that he's really cool/dangerous", not "aura" in the supernatural sense)
22:56 Actually, in the Japanese version of KH1, Kairi shuts herself down too (or at least, she opens the door for Sora to do it). In Japanese, instead of her asking "I can't help?" and Sora replying "You'd kind of be in my way.", she instead asks "Would I be a hindrance?" (足手まとい？), and Sora pretty much replies with "Well, I guess you could say that." (まぁ そういうこと).
24:37 You probably could already guess such, but it wasn't a pun in the Japanese version. In that line, he doesn't use the normal terms for the KH entity-type "Nobody" (ノーバディnōbadi), instead calling himself "one who doesn't exist" (存在しない者 sonzai shinai mono) - which does also describe Nobodies, but isn't a pun.
31:45 In Japanese, she just says "I am Strelitzia. Right here is a place only for me." (私はストレリチア、ここは私だけの場所。)
46:40 Just as an interesting tidbit, in the Japanese version, Sora doesn't say anything like "You're stupid". He instead says "The Heartless are a dangerous force." (ハートレスは危険な力だ). So Sora calling Riku that was a localization addition inserted into the dialogue for whatever reason (the following line about hearts being swallowed is correct though).
1:28:44 The Japanese version explicitly avoids this specific issue you have with the line (and honestly, I think the overall line was more touching and less corny in the Japanese version). In Japanese, he says "Xion, let's have ice cream again. The three of us." (シオン また３人でアイスを食べよう).
1:37:45 The Japanese had it as "I am... We are... not alone!" (僕は― 僕たちはー 一人じゃない！). So in that version, he was correcting himself.
2:00:02 Funny you say that, because in the Japanese version, she does say “(Because,) it’s almost like you two are brothers.” (だって あなたたちまるで兄弟みたい).
2:26:25 The translation isn’t wrong here (あんた どっから来たんだ does mean “Where…did you come from?”), but I wanted to explain this part since I think the delivery contributes to the misinterpretation of what Sora is really asking here (either a change of delivery or perhaps rewording the direct translation would have maybe fixed this). Sora isn’t asking this question in the sense of “Where the heck did you appear from all of a sudden!?”. He is asking in the sense of “Wait a second… Where are you from? Are you… not from this world?”. The guy is talking about worlds, and Sora wasn’t paying attention to the significance of that at first, and then he realizes the implication (that a guy he doesn’t know talking about “this world” as if it is one of many could be from another world). This is also why in the Japanese version, he pauses his sentence and goes “Ah” in realization before asking the question, as opposed to the localization where it translated his “Ah!” exclamation as a questioning “Huh?”. Sora’s question is actually focusing on the “where are you from” aspect and not the “how did you appear before me” aspect.
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Omg yes, I played Days in Japanese originally and it’s clear he’s begging her not to die, where in English the scene and its emotional impact gets ruined because you knee-jerk “wait, did he just ask her who he ought to replace her with?”
If you made this a video, you'd be goated KH content
it's like they wrote a bunch of one-liners for Axel and just couldn't bring themselves to scrap any of them, so they used five at a time
The worst part is I effectively replayed the scene in my head without "you had your perfect little script", and it actually works decently well.
We get a cool character moment for a fan favourite character, a nice callback to his best game in 358 days, and a...okay-ish joke. End it after he says "What, bad timing?" and go to Xigbar angrily yelling at Xehanort, and the scene honestly works *so much* better. It's almost infuriating just how much Axel refusing to shut the hell up kills the momentum.
this happens in every game an extra writer hasn't been brought in
Surprised that “They’ll pay for this” was even on this list that line is peak Kingdom Hearts from my perspective
"Undeniable proof that we totally owned you lamers"
belongs in the BEST kh quotes bracket
shocked that the KH2 Jasmine line saying "Sora Donald Goofy" as if she just hit the fattest blunt ever did not even make the bracket
i don't think anyone submitted it! but it's def a weird reading
@@RegularPatWhat about in KH3 where Rapunzel says the trio's names in the wrong order?
I was thinking about that Jasmine one too for bad readings
The Seifer "Lamers" quote is extra funny because it triple-dips on its mid 2000's 'tude. We've obviously got Lamers, but we've also got "Totally", which is an infamously 90's and 2000's era surfer bro thing, AND "Owned", which is another youth slang term that peaked in the mid 2000's in the same sentence. The fact that he delivers such an immediately dated line with such bravado is so admirable.
Fuckin Will Friedle lolz
Meanwhile in JP, Takehito Koyasu
@@Abigdummy4lifecame to say the exact same thing!
@@Abigdummy4lifeWill Friedle voiced Seifer? Eric Matthews Will Friedle? "Fee-hee-heeny" Friedle?
@@secureb00t39 WE OWNED THOSE LAMERS, KP! - Ron Stoppable
Could be worse. Imagine if he said "pwned"
I cannot believe people wanted “you’re stupid!” On the worst quote bracket it’s SO GOOD !!!!
A good number of the "requested" entries were suspect.
Best voice crack ever
my thing with the ice cream line is also, on top of everything else, Roxas is actively forgetting Xion exists in that moment. He blurts her name because it just suddenly came to him again. He could probably think of much better thing to say to his dying friend if he still had his memories of her.
People are unbelievably harsh on what this literal 1-year-old says as he grieves his best friend’s death while simultaneously forgetting her existence. Like…given the circumstances I bet you’d blurt out some dumb shit, too.
Also, his life is falling apart at that point and he will not get it back until KH3. What else would he feel except indescribable grief and finality?
19:19 The best variation of the "They'll pay for this" meme is definitely "Disney when they make the Kingdom Hearts Collection available to buy on Steam and EGS."
I'll defend "I'm me" a bit. It's not supposed to be a line meant to confuse on who's the real Riku and it's not supposed to be Replica trying to say he's the real Riku. It's Replica being incredibly envious of the fact that Riku can say he is who he is. He's envious that Riku has an identity to confidently call his own. Riku Replica can't say "I'm me" and mean it, he's a fake clone of someone else. He can never be Riku so it drives him crazy that he can't have what Riku has; an identity.
Or maybe I just have lower standards, idk
I always thought this was very very obvious which is why i always get confused as to why people dislike that line so much
Thank you! I was going crazy listening to their take on it.
Yeah it's bizarre people don't [ick that up, especially with the rant immediately after.
Yeah, I agree. I love the line.
my guess is that a good chunk of them either seen it without the rant context or they forgot the rest of the conversation that line came from. the 'I'm me' line is a derpy line out of contest which I imagine is the version that most people remember it as
Nice video. I am taking my time and watching it in chunks. One minor note. 1:05:25 The commentary from Sora and Riku on Neku's and Beat's full names is actually continuing a running gag from their original game, TWEWY. Beat's given name is oddly long, not-tough-sounding, and contains a more common name within its syllabic bounds. And since it is always a pain to translate jokes, they took a few liberties in the English version of TWEWY. Neku's response (in English) to hearing Beat's full name the first time was "Die...bee...what? Is that some kind of curse?"
So the DDD writers and translators were kind of just working with what they had for this scene.
Oh hey, it’s me 🥝. Fun fact: I LOVE Kingdom Hearts, and I pick on it because I adore it. We can acknowledge goofy (a-hyuck) stuff and still think its source is altogether wonderful.
Same
We love to see Kiwi in the wild
I think the only defence I have of the KH3 Axel monologue is that he's immediately annihilated not 2 seconds later by Xemnas, and ever since I've wondered if the developers were intentionally trolling with that scene.
Like, Axel builds up this big head of steam, says his 4th wall breaking line about how cool he is, swings at Xemnas.... and then his blade gets caught, the music immediately cuts out, Xemnas is like "Is this some kind of fucking joke?" and then he shoots Axel to death. It's perfect, I love it. Axel gets jobbed out so hard.
But I don't know whether that whole exchange is meant to be as funny as I find it.
But he's still right in that he doesn't actually die. Can't keep jobbing if you aren't alive to job after all.
I can't quite explain why but it feels like a gag that would have happened in Homestuck.
Honestly that's the main reason I do hate that line. The fourth wall breaks from Axel were kinda wearing thin for me by that point but I think I would have forgiven it as his big final pre ass-kicking one liner. It would have been cheesy but it still would have fulfilled that fanservice fulfillment of seeing Axel come back to being the badass he started as. What pushes that line into eyeball rolling territory for me is he gives this not that great boast, and then instantly gets shut down, it just highlights how bad that line is.
he got crumpled like it was a terminalmontage video, and while I love that
i still felt pain because i care about most of the goobers
I actually love "I'm a bad guy, so you have to go through me." There's something fun about Larxene knowing she's the villain and leaning into it. For all of their darkness talk, all of the various norts or whoever generally think they're doing what's best for the universe and/or the people they care about. Larxene, though? She's evil for the love of the game.
I think the line itself is fine but the delivery is stilted. It feels like the actress only got one take.
yeah, i never even understood what people disliked about it, she's just being smarmy lol
Yeah it's the reading/direction that ruins that, it doesn't have the emphasis in the right place. In text it's a good line.
Tbh as a kid this line kinda solidified my love for Larxene because I was like. Oooh. She knows she's bad. I like that! Sure can't wait to beat her up though!
Looking back tho the line delivery for.. most of her lines tbh are a bit cringe but I can excuse it
this line gets me going I’m not ashamed tbh
"There's not a single good line reading for Sora in DDD" I'm sorry but were you sleeping at the wheel with "No, Roxas...you're you! We're not the same! I wanted to tell you that. That you deserve as much as I do to be your own person" because I love that read personally
50:00 also this literally happens in blank points, the difference is that it actually makes sense in the context of what Ansem is talking about. A bunch of people who no longer have their own autonomy (those who are 'asleep') are waiting for their rebirth through what would become the events of KH3
Funnily enough, you can split all the good lines Sora says from the bad ones by checking whether he is actually in the 3D model at the time. While he's chatting to Roxas, he's in kh2 mode.
@@liamwhite3522 Yeah, HJO is trying to sound younger when Sora's in the DDD design
Personally I don't mind how he sounds but I do understand how it can be grating and handicap his line delivery. I just wanted to point out where I thought it was good because saying all the lines for him in the game are bad is disingenuous to me
on the complete opposite end of the spectrum, i also think "your majest--- i gotta stop that." is not only a rare actually funny ddd sora moment, but is also super well delivered for what it is
Its like... throughout most of the game hes a total dweeb but in that moment he's incredibly wise and that is, imo, one of the best moments in the whole series. Since hes not in his younger form there, it almost makes it seem like the effect of making him look younger also made him dumber somehow
Axel’s “do you know how popular I am” always struck me as some budget Deadpool knocking at the 4th wall, glad Xemnas put him in his place later on
This is how I found out the “fulfill their duty through union cross” wasn’t a meme edit. Not done with the video but so far that actually wins the whole bracket for me.
I thought the same thing. So when I saw it was real, I was sold on calling it the worst line in the series because wtf do you mean “fulfill their duty through union cross”??? You can’t just title drop a mouthful like that 😂
Honestly i wonder if that's some localization bullshit. Maybe there was a title drop in there but the localizer just decided to go ham with it just cause they could. I wanna know what that line is in japanese.
The mobile games have a lot of bad lines but holy hell it’s ridiculous that one’s real
This was my pick as well. I think the fact that it is so bad people think it’s fact helps it a lot.
When I first saw the line in game I screenshot it. I was dumbstruck.
My most hated line personally is "Good Luck" from Repliku in KH3. Because it's entirely a mistranslation! It's supposed to be "Take care of her", which echoes Riku's last line in KH1 and also sort of feels impactful on the replica's own faux-relationship with Namine. But instead it's just "good luck". come on.
That's, nuts.
You're awful, translators.
For real though that's as wet of a farther if not more so as "opened kingdom hearts"
As a person who was meme-ing Riki Replica coming back for years only to be completely taken aback when he actually was fucking real in KH3, that is SUCH a massive disservice.
That's dishonor on KH1, dishonor on COM, eugh
To be fair, Riku did spend a year with Naminé, so the Replika was acting like a wingman at the end.
I feel like I have a similar train of thought with the "that is so unfriendly" line but I'm ending up at the opposite reaction lol. low stakes, mild antagonization from just a couple of dudes, lame and direct response! it's like he's not used to such an average form of rudeness so he lets out a very confused, very genuine "well _that's_ not very nice!" he's used to villains trying to kill him dead, not some guys mildly manhandling him because it's literally their job lol
100% agree. Sora is being goofy on purpose because these guys are so painfully not a threat to him that he doesn't need to take them seriously.
Yeah, they're just citizens of the world as far as he knows. Moving straight to murder as if they were some heartless might be a bit extreme if he doesn't want to become the world's most wanted for no reason.
The Riku, “You and your messed up memories are always in the way, Sora!” reminds me of Christopher Walken’s delivery in the Country Bears movie:
“This is not over…Bears!”
"Taking it to the bailey" needs to enter the mainstream and become a turn of phrase people just use
Just realized "Dark Rescue is my middle name," implies that Axel/Lea has a last name. Fascinated by this.
I didn't realize it that Lea might have last name which make me wonder, do other characters have a middle/last name?
"You're stupid." is the PEAK of the KH1 drama. Truly iconic 👏
I definitely feel like there's a bit too much 'meta' revolved around calling "You'd kind of be in the way." a bad line. Sora says it with a friendly chuckle and Kairi takes it in stride because, in KH1, it's just objectively true. Kairi's not a fighter, and the majority of the game is spent trying to find her. Sure she saves Sora from being a Heartless, but he only became a Heartless to save her in the first place. If she did come along, then what? Turn the rest of the game into an escort mission? No matter how you spin it, in the context of KH1 that line is perfectly fine.
Only when you inject how the rest of the series treats Kairi does it sound even remotely questionable.
Yeah tbh and i get the impression in that scene that she fully knows that. she has absolutely no experience fighting or really travelling with any autonomy to the other worlds, so it would largely have been her learning everything new like sora does at the beginning of the game. I get the sense that she realizes that too and it was really just a joking between friends thing
"They'll pay for this." is too cool to be here honestly.
To the Kairi's "Please work!" line's credit... I'd love to see sassy Kairi back, of course. But I also think it'd be a bit odd if she was quippy fighting the guy who killed her immediately after being miraculously resurrected. Even standing up to Saix in KH2, she was still hesitant and only seemed to get her bearings with Riku and Namine's support. And Saix is definitely less threatening than full power Master Xehanort throwing planets at you.
That is fair. She may have the power AT THAT POINT to defeat Xehanort, but it is taken that even if she is a better Keyblade wielder in extreme situations she is not on Xehanort’s level. Of course she would be frantic and hope she could blast him with her newfound power.
Pat the type of guy to say "ope they found me" when he hears police sirens
Regular Pat name dropping Yu-Gi-Oh! Abridged gave me so much dopamine and I can’t properly explain why
I feel like Sora's "Huh? Wait, where did you come from?" was _supposed_ to be him realizing he's never seen this cloak guy before in his life, meaning he's not from Destiny Islands and thus leading into "so you're from another world!". This scene happens on the second day, just after the trio lays out their plan to visit other worlds, so it would be thematically appropriate.
Instead, Sora just kinda sounds insane for a brief moment and then returns to normal, I guess.
"They'll pay for this", among other quotes, is SO advocative on the best aspect of Kingdom Hearts, imo. No other story would even dare be as earnest as KH without some quippy remark about how silly it is. I remember seeing Beetlejuice Beetlejuice in theaters the other day and there was a trailer for a Dwayne Johnson & Chris Evans action movie where they rescue Santa Claus or something, and EVERY single line Chris Evans said was something like "Whoa......you mean we're saving Santa? what the fuck???" man if kingdom hearts can have confidence in its writing then you can too, hollywood.
I think it's part of why Kingdom Hearts has the reputation it does. It's so utterly sincere most of the time (except for Post-Days Axel, unfortunately), even when what its doing is patently absurd, or cheesy, or just plain weird. And I think it's a stark contrast to a lot of mainstream media that gets made these days.
That and “Did somebody mention The Door to Darkness?” are quintessential Kingdom Hearts. Both are clearly absurd to absolutely everyone except for the game itself, which is fully convinced it’s doing the coolest shit ever.
@@MisterZebra42 It's why they worked even a little. "They'll pay for this" is still a little silly, because no shot they're actually gonna kill Goofy. But Mickey and Donald so serious in the moment that it still kind of comes together at the end.
I know it's not how brackets are normally structured, but it would have been really funny if you reordered the brackets to have the 7 seeds go up against the 13 seeds.
RIP the Seifer battle bark: "Isn't this roMANtic!" Also honorable mention to the queen of hearts, for the crime of "attempted theft of my heart," which goes in the "lines that make people giggle with innuendo."
What's funny is that the "Riku smell" thing isn't a mistranslation at all, I dunno who came up with the aura explanation. The Japanese also uses "smell", and the manga even apparently makes a joke about it.
And I mean, he does sniff his hand.
The sense of smell is linked to memory. There's a lot of theming.
uhhhh i mean the japanese word for smell (匂い or 臭い) literally can mean aura though, it's in the dictionary. but even then i do think that usage for it is pretty rare and that the writers did mean "smell" in the literal sense lol
Smell could also have contations in Japanese it doesn’t in English
Lea really came back to life and then immediately decided the best way to make people remember him is to be as cringe as possible as often as possible.
I mean clearly it worked
that is his goal after all, to live on in the memories of others
I think the “he did it he opened kingdom hearts” line, she was going for sounding “defeated” which is why it’s kinda flat.
Honestly, I don’t know if there’s any acting choice Aqua’s VA could’ve made to make that line sound good, especially with the limitation of having to at least _kinda_ match the original Japanese dub’s timing.
It was probably hard enough to keep a straight face in the recording studio while saying that, lol.
Its completely within her character too
It also should be noted she had recently faced a wave of Heartless and that is triggering for her. Maybe Aqua, in addition to being defeated, is emotionally drained as well.
If it had been possible, I reckon .ore of a pause between the two halves of the sentence, said slower, could have made the line infinitely better
2:09:20 that's a *great* line read from the late Ken Page though, RIP. I'm so glad he reprised his role as Oogie Boogie in the KH games.
2:24:24 I've always treated the "there can't be 2 keyblade masters" line as childhood play. Kids playing would use a term like "master" to describe who's in charge/better when they're playing. This goes so well with Riku tossing Sora the wooden sword shortly after, IMO.
A reason for why the timing and the lines in general in Re:CoM are so fucken weird is because they didn’t sync their mouths to the English lines, and thus the lines were read to fit the Japanese movements. Repliku taking a pause before yelling Sora or Vexen’s added-on “yes” probably would’ve been all-together cut if the mouths had been actually synced.
Doesn’t take away from those lines still being shit/hilarious!
Loved this! Was in the middle of binging The Wire but had to drop that for this festivity!
I noticed the translation quality took a big dip between the gba and ps2 versions. Just look at the dialogue in the original and you'll see how much smoother it feels.
@@theelusivepootisberd7471 Sure, but the GBA version has "Commit it to memory" so...
As weird as it is, FFX's "WithYunaByMySide" is still the weirdest case of Square trying to make localized dialog fit.
But X had a thing where if the audio files weren't the same length then the game would crash, I don't know if KH has the same problem
@@velvetbutterfly Can't speak for the other KH games but all of ReCoM's cutscenes are pre-rendered so I doubt the audio files needed to be the same length in that game. Also doubt the current games are bound by that rule as it seems like something they should've been able to figure out by now. Maybe KH1 and KH2 had similar limitations?
@@JTD95 really? I didn't notice any of them being pre-rendered and I played Re:CoM on both PS2 and HD.
"You had your perfect little script, but you kind of forgot to write Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel."
-Quinton Flynn, probably
I actually really like "I'm me, he says." I honestly think the line reading and weird pacing do it such a disservice. Riku replica is so upset that Riku is able to claim to be his own person while he can only be a reflection, and hearing Riku essentially say so is frustrating to him. I think an angrier or more dejected read would fix the problems with the line. It's a bit absurd, but the situation is absurd, and Riku Replica is just reacting to the painful absurdity.
I'd argue Roxas's "I" in his statement is because as of now, he doesn't include Axel as a friend, due to the lies and obfuscation that he's done. So who else will Roxas include in the ice-cream eating?
Pretty much all of Riku's lines in ReMind deserve to be here on delivery alone. Did they sedate David Gallagher before the recording session? He was fine in the base game.
Okay, I'm gonna go with a somewhat opposing take on "He did it. He opened Kingdom Hearts."
First and foremost, let's get this out of the way:
It is a bad delivery. I think of the major cast, Willa Holland as Aqua might be my least favourite performance. But I don't really agree with Pat saying the line needs urgency behind it. For Aqua, especially from 0.2 onwards, I read a lot of her lines as this flat, emotionally dead monotone because of just how drained and mentally exhausted she is from her time in the Realm of Darkness. Like, she doesn't have the energy to emote anymore, because she's so close to just giving up on everything.
So I actually kinda like what I felt they were going for with that line, where Aqua's trying not to just...give up on seeing Xehanort open Kingdom Hearts. THAT BEING SAID, I do think the execution is sub-par. I just think it's a different kind of bad than what Pat said at 3:06:50.
I quite like it because of that. She’s just so done with everything not related to her friends that she just, zones out. I would too if I was her all of that shit she went through was crazy.
Yeah i feel like that line was supposed to be her feeling overwhelmed and defeated by that. It wasn't *meant* to be an urgent line, more of a "im severely depressed and this just made it worse actually" thing. Because TBH at this point in the story Aqua very clearly is deeply depressed because of her time in the Dark Realm and honestly everything else that has happened to her before and during it. I honestly don't have an issue with that line at all besides the general sense of I dont know if her VA has ever really given a lot of life to the character.
personally, hot take, but i dont like most of her line delivery across the series so this just felt like the usual underwhelming performance
@@owenbridgers I remember playing 0.2 and being pleasantly surprised by Willa's performance in that game. I thought she was quite solid. I might not think that if I went and replayed it now, but from my memory, she was solid there. And it's because I felt that her performance, while occasionally falling a little flat, felt appropriately worn-down and jaded after everything she went through.
@@bnashee That is totally fair. As I said, Holland's performance is probably my least favourite of our major cast, so I get why it feels like more of the same for you.
I just felt like 0.2 and 3 were heading in a direction that Holland was able to pull off a lot more effectively than what BBS asked of her. I still don't *love* the end result, but I at least felt in later games I got what they were going for. Because yes, Aqua is severely depressed by this point in time, and while I don't expect it to be put under the kind of spotlight that it could be, I do feel that given the flashback upon seeing the Demon Tide, I do think it's something the developers are aware of and acknowledging for her.
The funniest thing is this whole video is Kiwi calling ’Smeagol’ his ’government name’.
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both “dark rescue” and the kh2 mickey response feel like examples of translations that don’t quite land. there’s a similar moment in kh3 at the end of monstropolis, where mike says something along the lines of, “the harder you try, the funnier it gets,” but he’s making air quotes while he says it, implying some sort of sarcastic, play-on-words joke that exists in the japanese dialogue, but didn’t make sense in translation, and thus was changed. “dark rescue” feels like a bad direct translation attempt, and mickey’s “of course i do!” feels like an improper grammatical error that happened as a similar translation error.
For the king mickey kh2 line, it could even be a mistranslated Donald line that's mucking everything up. If he said something like "Do you even know what Ansem looks like?" The answer "Of course I do!" makes sense. In fact, it makes more sense, because while Donald has seen Ansem SoD, did Mickey ever see him? *Does* Mickey know what Ansem looks like in KH2?
I think "of course I do" was probably meant to be responding to Donald asking "do you remember" instead of "did you forget." I think there was a scripting change, not a translation error
That "Of course I do" suffers not from the delivery of Mickey but the delivery from Donald.
I'm almost 100% sure Donald was supposed to say: "Do you REMEMBER what Ansem looked like?"
Or even "Have you ever seen Ansem?" Because really, did Mickey ever see Ansem in KH1?
Maybe not in KH1, but Mickey definitely saw Ansem in Chain of Memories when he protected Riku from him. And in Days when Riku met Mickey in the forest disguised as Ansem.
_Someone_ got the line wrong in the first scene. I'm actually thinking it might have been Tony, because if the script said: "Do you _remember_ what Ansem looked like, your majesty?" The response: "Of course I do, and this is him." Would be correct.
21:40 People say that but it's not really accurate, given the scene with Naminé where Riku pinches his nose, and people double checked the translation and it is indeed talking about smell
Good point, I wasn't really sure but that makes sense
Regarding the whole smell thing, the sense of smell is deeply connected to memory. So not only is it important intimately between characters who care for each other, but it fits the whole memory thing CoM and Re:CoM are about.
Also, you could chalk it up to be Riku being bad with talking with girls. (Granted, he still ends up spending a year with Naminé and then another year later on once he helps her get an actual body.)
My actual birth name is Axel, and if I ever unironically say "Nobody axes Axel" I want someone to legally change my name.
I will forever have a soft spot for "That was undeniable proof that we totally owned you lamers." because its just so perfectly dumb. Its said by an FF character who we aren't supposed to like with the Roxas' POV, its dated beyond belief, and its just so darn quotable.
I quote it constantly with my friends, probably my most quoted KH line alongside "Now that's just plain rude!" (Demyx, right before fighting him in OC)
While it isnt an excuse for the line, I've always kinda assumed the Aqua "i've seen what you've done" line was writen as a line to try and build up this almost antagonist in Aqua for Terra's campaign, since we play Terra first and dont play Aqua until the end, I feel like its almost like a "oh no what did aqua see" moment, or at least thats what was supposed to be intended
also genuinely think the lamers line is one of the best lines in the series, unironically. it fits the characterization of this stupid Twilight Town bully group
"since we play terra first and don't play aqua until the end," did I play BBS wrong?
@@killerbug05 its not hard enforced, but the "recommended" way to play is Terra, then Ventus, then Aqua
@@killerbug05 you can play either Terra or Ven first, but Aqua should be last
@@The_Pikaboi oh damn I played
Aqua > ven > terra 💀
i wonder if “i’ll turn Santa Claus into Santa Heartless” was a joke that makes sense in Japanese? cuz it feels like a pun, but it just…. isn’t???
If we go the pun route, the line might be "turn Santa Kurōsu into Santa Hātoresu"
I don't know what the actual dialog in game is, I just know that KH uses the english word "heartless" in Japan and Santa gets called either Santa-san or Santa Kurōsu and a villain like Oogie wouldn't use a polite honorific.
I just checked the Japanese version and there is no Santa pun 😂 She just says that she’ll turn Santa into a heartless
Maybe someone else noted it in the comments, but I'm hoping Pat sees someone saying it as a clarification. The two key blade masters line is entirely an English line. In the original Japanese, he says "There can't be two heroes." Note that Riku mentions that Sora is "hero of the keyblade" during the events of the game. He is basically saying that the keyblade can't be wielded by two people, which was true, since the Keyblade picked one person to go with in the original.
You can actually mention that the other one IS a badly translated line because Keyblade master took on a bigger meaning later on and so it causes confusion to newer players that probably don't remember these games came out years apart.
Holy crap, I absolutely hear the ice cream stick thing. I was chuckling along with both of you after that and had to repeat it. It sounds like he's got his side lips like super up and saying it with like play scrunch face. Almost like a calm down version of the way someone talks to a dog
I had never seen that "Struggle all you want" line before so hearing that for the first time took me the fuck out. Might be my new favourite out of context KH line.
3 and a half hours of Pat and Kiwi banter about bad KH lines?
Bracket bros, we’re so back 😤
Was thinking "I wish there was a new Regular Pat video" literally 20 minutes ago
Personally, I think the Axel “I’m so popular…” line could’ve gone a lot further had you included the entire thing. Not only does he hit you with multiple “zingers” that could’ve ended his little monologue. But then he ends the whole thing with a big wink to the camera as he gives his way overused catchphrase as well with “got it memorized.”
And idk if it adds or detracts from the poor quality of the line but the fact that he’s then blasted by Xemnas immediately after saying that makes me laugh every time I see it.
Strelitzia is talking to the Player, but not really. She never meets them, so it's like she's having a conversation with them inside her mind. That's how I took it to be.
yep, that's how i take it too, so it doesnt really register as bad for me, maybe a bit silly but only in the way that some teenager narrating an ideal conversation with someone they're too shy to approach would inherantly be
I know it wont win, but "I'm me he says" kills me everytime bro
“I’m me he says” was clearly Riku Replica mocking Riku because he’s jealous he has a real identity. It’s sad that one line undercuts such a great scene. It’s one of Riku’s VA’s best performances.
Really surprised you couldn’t immediately tell the Struggle Announcer actor is just Bill Farmer again. Especially since you put him against Goofy.
oop today i learned
@@RegularPat yeah, real sad you also had an entire section of the video dedicated to praising Ken Page’s performance, and he passed away between the time you recorded the video and uploaded it.
He was a great presence in the two games he was in.
i completely forgot about that insane title shoehorn line from UX and seeing it on-screen physically knocked the wind out of me
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Axel- you don’t have a LAST name
In defense of the ice cream line, im going to say that the same things which make it bad also make it more heartbreaking. It's absolutely juvenile for Roxas to see ice cream and friendship as the same thing, but the fact that he does emphasizes just how innocent he is and how ill equipped he is to handle this devastating loss.
It feels so clear that he lacks the proper words to describe his grief. We know what these things mean to him in context, and it's heart wrenching. I think it's only weird out of context
I've always found the 'I've got some unfinished business with this puppet' line to be so sinister. Geppetto just acknowledged Pinocchio as his 'son' and Riku immediately dehumanizes him and calls him an object, thereby trivializing the relationship that Geppetto just established and giving Riku the mindset that he can now do whatever he wants since he doesn't view him as real. It's a deeply evil power move. I guess, in a real world equivalent, it's like bigots referring to my husband as my 'friend', or even worse a slur, despite knowing full well our relationship. It's maddening.
Haven't finished the video yet, but the first round already has me thinking "AND HERE COMES MICKEY OF-COURSE-I-DO MOUSE WITH A STEEL CHAIR" like, legit that came out of nowhere, but thank you for your service Kiwi lol
Personally, whenever I like to poke fun at the absurdity of Kingdom Hearts (which I adore), I pull out my best Goofy impression, and yell
“VENTUS WASN’T ABLE TO DEFEAT VANITAS! THEY STRUCK EACH OTHER DOWN, AND VENTUS’S HEART NEVER RETURNED TO HIM!”
“Ahyuck”
1:23:33 I agree, Vexen's "yes" at the end there works extremely well for him as a proud/defiant affirmative to Larxene's denunciation. It also works because Vexen definitely possesses that kind of ego. So hearing his own self-assertion of being a scientist is like direct compliment to himself---and it's totally something he would say to himself in the mirror when he's alone. _"I _*_AM_*_ a scientist, aren't I? Indeed, yesss, yes I am...heheheh.."_
42:00 I feel like another argument against Kairi having such an unconfident line is that Riku and Sora never had any lines like this even in KH1 where they would've been in the same situation as Kairi is now. Sora came out the gate swinging against the Heartless which is maybe saying more about him being young and naive and maybe a little dumb, but I dunno, he didn't even have training which Kairi did. the only thing I can think of that makes sense of Kairi's line is that she's fighting Xehanort as one of her first real fights in the series so I guess it makes a bit more sense as to why that would make her nervous
Kairi is also not only older but has other keyblade wielders to compare herself to. It's a very different frame of reference than a kid who feels invincible going into the unknown half-cocked
I think 'please work' is also kind of a delivery thing. Because you're right, she has little experience - and if she said it like, say, Spider-Man would early in yet another origin story movie, where he's doing something with his webs and he's like 'please work,' like he knows he's doing something crazy but he has to go for it, it'd work. That feels like the intent. But the way it's delivered sounds more pleading and even a little confused, like she has no idea what she's doing at all.
To this day I still don't know what Aqua meant by "you two would make the weirdest brothers" At least Riku smelling darkness fits within the context of ~KH Darkness~ and Namine having the same smell (or aura) as Kairi makes sense because she's Kairi's nobody, so the line explains new story lore in a subtle way despite it coming across creepy and weird. Aqua's is outta nowhere with zero context for this brotherly dynamic with two new characters we don't know, and the game goes on to fail to show us how Terra and Ventus have a "weird brother" relationship. Just completely awful story-wise and line-wise.
I've been turning it over in my head for a while, and I think either "weirdest" has to be a different adjective, or she needs to drop the "would", or both. Either make the trio more of a family dynamic, or make the idea that they could (literally) less weird.
I don't think she meant Terra and Ventus alone, she probably meant them as "my brothers". The way she says it doesn't have to exclude her. I think the point was she views them as family. Like a similar line "You would make the weirdest brother" due to being singular would have it more clear the speaker is refering to themselves.
I smell Darkness wrapped in Darkness i knew this was pats channel your content smells the same
The "Hurt" is just a KH term for emotional pain. And the Re:CoM smell stuff is a bad placeholder for "presence". That's how I see it.
A lot of KH quotes I see people say are bad I find to just be cases of "it could be better, but that doesnt mean its bad"
Yeah exactly
I actually really like the "no one axes axel line" its got a cheeky 4th wall break in reference to the players but it actually works as an in-universe claim. Axel's whole philosophy is that inside people's memories, he can live forever. And he made a point to be known to everyone he encountered. In a sense he is claiming that because he's built so many connections and impressions (positive and negative) he can't be killed. Because he is so popular and well known in universe and out of universe, he will live forever in other's memories.
🥝How come now I realize that both "Kairi is Inside me" and "How do you know that is even safe inside Riku" both take place in the same exact room in Hollow Bastion? What an odd coincidence that both the sugestive "inside of" quotes take place in the exact same place in the same exact platform.
A lot of the bad line readings where they have awkward pauses (like "your messed up memories, Sora") probably have to do with how japanese delivery works and how the english actors then have to adapt to that. nowadays it's more common to re-do the lip syncing in different languages to get around this issue, but in the 2000s square had a tendency to force its english voice actors to match the existing lip syncing that was animated to the Japanese actors' performances. I know Hedy Buress (Yuna's VA) mentioned how that made it difficult to act in FFX and when working on FFX-2 she didn't try as hard to match the animation, leading to moments where her performance doesn't match it (at least in the original, I don't remember if it was fixd in the HD remaster) but her line reads feel more natural as a result.
In a way I like that in FFX, Yuna felt shy and reserved. Raised by the church and almost pushed into following her father's shadow.
In X-2, after being with Tidus and deciding her own fate, she's a lot more free spirited and emotive in gesture and in voice.
I kinda understand the "taken to the bailey" thing in that I did it myself at one point. In one of the Naruto games, one of the characters gets a line like "Pleeease, show me how powerful you are" or something like that in a mocking, sarcastic tone, but somehow I attached to the delivery of "puleEEEAAse" and I can't imagine it without making it as whiny and silly as possible.
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can't believe I never noticed "Of course I do" until now.
Alright, regular pat, your previous videos finally talked me into giving KH1 a fair chance. I avoided it for a while because of how jank and slow it is, but I finally played it through because I wanted to keep the whole underdog mindset in mind, and now KH1 has gone from being bad in my mind to being o-kay. I still think its age holds it back in a few aspects, but it's gone from being my 6th favorite KH game to my 3rd favorite
We know terra is innocent but aqua is missing key info and from her point of view, Terra stole a heart and threatened a little girl.
Aqua never even knew about Terra scaring Snow White. She literally doesn’t know anything. She only listened to Maleficent once and assumed it was true.
@aoto8897 maybe I need to replay the game because I remember her seeing the after math of terra's shenanigans.
No Xemnas lines, because his voice is PERFECT baby!
“Indeeeeeeeeed.”
One line I have definitely taken to the bailey would be Ansem's "Beee-HOLD the ENNND-LESS ABYSSSS!"
Axel being described as a guy from an 80s band that pops up years later on a VH1 Top 100 list has me cackling
"This is my secret spot that no one knows about." She says on the roof.
Absent the rest of DDD sora, I’d be inclined to read “that’s a weird name” as Sora joking around and being playful - certainly in KH3 i’d read it that way
The name is weird because of how long it is, as most Japanese names are two kanji long, sometimes rarely three. Daisukenojo is 「大輔之丞」 in kanji. That's four kanji long, man. Also, it's "Daisuke-nojo". That's like if you're name was Jonathonremdis. That's a weird name.
Also, bro his name is Bito. BEAT-O. THAT'S a fucking weird name in Japanese. That's like naming your son a random Japanese word, like Furo, (bath in Japanese). No one normal has a name like that.
2:10:58 I read Goofy’s emphasis on “betray” as if that isn’t what he is doing at all, to either Sora and Mickey. He knows who Mickey is as a King and as a Person (mouse), and he knows that Mickey would understand that Goofy is going to stand by his friends because that is a right and just thing to do, even if it delays him in finding his King. So to him, he isn’t betraying either, but is just using the words back at Riku
I think the problem with the two keyblade masters line is how goddamn fast Riku says it. It sounds like someone jammed the words in his mouth and hes vomiting them out.
LOL! Kairi saying "DIE MOTHERFUCKER!" as a battle quote would be so legendary! 🤣🤣🤣
"It all started with a BIRTH BY SLEEP, and then ONcE a CHAIN OF MEMORIES formed, over 358 DAYS spread OVER TWO individuals, it would only take a SECOND for a new enCODing to form. And then a DREAM, DROPed from a DISTANCE created THREE. And once the MELODY OF MEMORIES is sung, only then shall we go FORTH."