My father was a navigator on night fighter mosquitos and flew on these airfield attack missions. We did talk about his experiences so a couple of practical points may help. 1 They usually attack by following the target down the runway because they had a longer and easier shot and were not facing the targets guns. 2 their mossies were fitted with more advanced radar that had a more bulbous nose cone than the variant you have shown. 3. The Luftwaffe tried to thwart these missions by fitting disposable take off rockets to get their planes off the ground more quickly. This of course backfired because it made the target taking off much easier to track and shoot down in the dark.
My grandfather's next-door neighbour also flew the Mosquito attacking enemy fighters at night. He would follow the enemy fighter at a distance and wait for the Germans to turn on the runway landing lights and snipe him as he was landing, flying at very low level and the speed of the Mosquito made it very difficult for the ground defences to get a decent shot. Obviously, it sounds counter-intuitive to say this would be much more dangerous in daylight, but the Mossie boys did it at night and were very successful at it.
With these things on these missions, the key tactic seems to be to zip in, dump as much ordnance on the target as fast and as accurately as possible to lighten the plane, and then put the throttle to the firewall and run like a bunny for home. Make one pass to kill the target, but never more than two, and then scamper. This could be a really fun series.
Historically that’s about right. When you attack a heavily defended ground target you need the element of surprise. Mozzies were mainly used against precision targets. In WW2 that meant either going in slow, steep and dive bomb, (Stuka, SBD), or low level, high speed, Mozzie! So low you simply can’t miss. Either way you end up low over the target area. If you go back for seconds you’ve lost the element of surprise. German 20mm vierling AAA was deadly at low altitude. That’s the beaty of this aircraft. One pass with rockets, bombs and fixed guns a cannons puts an ungodly amount of fire power in that one punch. Then you run home. Nobody could catch them unless they had a huge altitude advantage. 262 at the end of the war could but they were few and far in between.
Although the Mosquito had surprisingly good agility for a twin engine aircraft; do not be tempted to try and turn fight with single engine fighters. You will be shot down. The greatest asset of the Mosquito is its speed, so once you have made your strike, hit the deck and run for home. Don't get greedy and tempt fate!
...And Master of the Understatement 23:30 "Ahh, I think we might have got some debris from the Heinkel we shot down." Looking at right hand propeller bent up. :-DD
23:25 Ha, you had the same reaction as me: "Wait... [looks at prop]... that's not right... [stares some more]... The propeller shouldn't be bent like that..."
Nice one. If I remember correctly, The film company purchased some of the last remaining real (by then, obsolete) Mosquito's from the military to use in the film 633 Squadron... They destroyed them all in some of the scenes... A sad loss, in my opinion. Best wishes.
spot the 633 squadron quote... 'I'm gonna recommend you for a medal Taff, and when it comes - I'm gonna stick it right on your tail!' Wonderful video thanks Taff, would dearly love to see more Mosquito play, 2nd sexiest WW2 aeroplane after the magnificent Lancaster- but that's just my opinion!
Thankfully back then we had all the wonderful furniture makers and traditions to build these fantastic aircraft. (let alone all the aircrews who gave everything they had for us who flew them) Sadly we couldn't do it if it was today. We would have lost the war. That's something to think about.
Only discovered your channel after watching Team Fusion's promo of their next DLC. As I own all the products you showcase, I'm in for a treat watching your back catalogue. Cheers, and subscribed.
Been watching some of your stuff recently and this makes me want to get back into these games again (I had the original series). Actually quite liked the Sturmovik itself back then, but my favourite three aircraft from the conflict are; Hurricane, Typhoon and Beaufighter.
My Grandfather flew Mosquito MK VI's with 410 Squadron RCAF. Was killed near the Netherlands/Germany border Sept 1943. Mossies can't fight single seaters mate. All you can do is go in fast and get out faster.
VERY nice work here. I was getting the feel for the speed, and the combat seemed to be developing quite a bit quicker. I admit I was hoping for a bit more train derailment creativity from the A.I., but all and all great content for the channel! 💯
So long as you keep your speed, the Mosquito is a difficult adversary for Focke-Wulfs and Messerschmitts. Not a good idea to get in a turning fight that bleeds off your speed. I count 4x .303 MGs and 4x 20mm cannon in the nose - just a good squirt will do for the He-111s. She seems to be a very stable gun platform - one heck of an aircraft!
Miles sounds a bit posh for a Mosquito navigator. What about Ken, Nobby, Harry or Bob? I love how you do a double-take at the bent prop and the broken starboard engine. Nice video.
Great video again Taff! Just wondering if you could take out the tracks in front of the train to stop it or make it crash? Not sure if it’s modelled in the game?
This was very nicely done, thanks. I have the Normandy mod in IL-2 sturmovik and only recently attempted to fly the Mossie. Funny, but I can't get it to turn while taxiing. Wonder what I'm doing wrong?
I think one of the more interesting Mosquito missions of WW2 was the one where they attempted to blow open the prison to free prisoners (It only kind of worked unfortunately).
Possible yes, but not necessary as the p 38 wins out in speed and weapon payload, the only thing I can say is that the mosquitoes guns do pack a bugger sting than the p 38 and has more ammo. But basically the p 38 wins in both fighter and fighter bomber roles and is just more versatile. Now sure the mosquito was a very versatile as well however it’s was made in multiple variants and yes they did the job efficiently in the war, but sadly in the game we only get the one and while I thinks great the p 38 just does the jobs much better than the mosquito. Long story short it is wiser to use the p 38 in missions than the mosquito but I’ll say that the mosquito is still an very ok backup if and when needed.
@@comesahorseman hi, I’d like to thank you for taking the time to read my very very long comment. Hopefully to clear up any negativity from my comment if there was any. In honesty if I had to pick my favourite one of the two I’d pick the mosquito, The report I’ve previously given, was granted maybe a bit harsh in some areas but I thought an honest opinion on the two aircrafts statistics and capabilities for in-game would be fair for others who play (me being one of them that has flown both, of which both are an absolute marvel to fly) Overall if I had to choose my personal favourite of the two will be the mosquito, but if I had to inform someone which of the two would bring more and easier success for them in a mission it would be the p 38 lighting. (Sorry if I’m and was sounding and coming across rude or impulsive, it wasn’t what I had intended and I humbly apologise to you sir 😔)
Hi Taff.... Excellent videos and commentary! I'm thinking of getting IL2.... How is best to play? Direct on a pc or through steam? Is there a minimum pc spec to play? Thanks
Think about that initial bounce of all those 109s taking off - all of a sudden a rocket spewing maniac appears directly ahead. Those 109 pilots would crap their pants!!!!!!!
I remember seeing a interview with a RAF pilot years ago he went up for a sortie against some 109s and bomber's there was only about 10 of them in the first group against 40 or so German aircraft and they pretty much just played chicken with the bomber's to start with and forced them to break formation. They had some interesting tactics at times.
@@matthewcharles5867 I watched a TH-cam video interview of famous British test pilot, Eric "Winkle" Brown. During the time when he was stationed on an escort carrier guarding North Atlantic convoys, he developed an effective tactic against Fw 200 "Condor" bombers. He could approach the bomber head-on, dead level in his F4F Martlet fighter almost unscathed and open up on the enemy cockpit to deadly effect. It seems the forward-firing German gunners couldn't depress their MGs enough - it was like flying through a tunnel. Can you imagine the nerve it took to break off only at the last second?
@@jamesrussell7760 yeah they did some amazing things , sometimes making thing's up as they went along or doing something unexpected worked very well. Had 3 relatives who flew in heavy bomber's and mosquito's they were all shot down during the war. Read a letter from one of them who wrote to his mother saying being a gunner in the Lancaster's was getting a bit boring so he was going to go on pathfinder runs , he lasted only a few missions with the pathfinders . Lots of bravery with a bit of luck needed to survive. Interesting to see how the different planes all have their strengths and weaknesses.
The final landing was clearly sponsored by Duracell … hop-hop-hop-… well after all other bunnies have stopped. There’s a plane that prefers flying to landing … even when running on their last engine!
Just got the expansion and am trying to fly the Mosquito but I cant get it to work. How do I even get it up in the air? It doesn't even give me enough power to lift, what am I doing wrong?
And why was 633 Squadron attacking a Nazi Glider Bomb factory in Norway..!! Because nobody would believe what they did in Oslo! In a long running spat spat with the Gestapo the Mossies were back on it for a little more low level raiding. One battle damage report listing wing tip damage, to a lamp post!! And an enemy kill, to a collision with an apple tree while in pursuit. This is fully reported...
My old mate John sadly passed away 2 years ago. As a post war De Havilland test pilot he thought the Vampire was great, but his favourite was the Mosquito.
Goering wet his pants for this heavy fighter .. pity it was owned by the enemy ... Stop the tight turning, you'll lose all your speed. NO rear observer , to warn of fighter attack .. lol
Those trees shouldn't even be there. Surrounding every track and road in trees is stupid. This is the laziest dev team that has ever existed. Always the easiest shortcut never again to be fixed or made better. The World is almost a completely dead place.
Why in all these excellent are they spoilt by the crew members wearing goggles down when not in actual combat it is a small thing but highly inaccurate, also navigators rarely wore goggles anyway.
My father was a navigator on night fighter mosquitos and flew on these airfield attack missions. We did talk about his experiences so a couple of practical points may help.
1 They usually attack by following the target down the runway because they had a longer and easier shot and were not facing the targets guns.
2 their mossies were fitted with more advanced radar that had a more bulbous nose cone than the variant you have shown.
3. The Luftwaffe tried to thwart these missions by fitting disposable take off rockets to get their planes off the ground more quickly. This of course backfired because it made the target taking off much easier to track and shoot down in the dark.
My grandfather's next-door neighbour also flew the Mosquito attacking enemy fighters at night. He would follow the enemy fighter at a distance and wait for the Germans to turn on the runway landing lights and snipe him as he was landing, flying at very low level and the speed of the Mosquito made it very difficult for the ground defences to get a decent shot. Obviously, it sounds counter-intuitive to say this would be much more dangerous in daylight, but the Mossie boys did it at night and were very successful at it.
With these things on these missions, the key tactic seems to be to zip in, dump as much ordnance on the target as fast and as accurately as possible to lighten the plane, and then put the throttle to the firewall and run like a bunny for home.
Make one pass to kill the target, but never more than two, and then scamper.
This could be a really fun series.
Is it just me or does the AI stay around and fight to the death even if you leave?
Historically that’s about right. When you attack a heavily defended ground target you need the element of surprise. Mozzies were mainly used against precision targets. In WW2 that meant either going in slow, steep and dive bomb, (Stuka, SBD), or low level, high speed, Mozzie! So low you simply can’t miss. Either way you end up low over the target area. If you go back for seconds you’ve lost the element of surprise. German 20mm vierling AAA was deadly at low altitude. That’s the beaty of this aircraft. One pass with rockets, bombs and fixed guns a cannons puts an ungodly amount of fire power in that one punch. Then you run home. Nobody could catch them unless they had a huge altitude advantage. 262 at the end of the war could but they were few and far in between.
Although the Mosquito had surprisingly good agility for a twin engine aircraft; do not be tempted to try and turn fight with single engine fighters. You will be shot down. The greatest asset of the Mosquito is its speed, so once you have made your strike, hit the deck and run for home. Don't get greedy and tempt fate!
Thanks for this :D
Taff never crashes, they are all just heavy tactical landings :)
...And Master of the Understatement 23:30 "Ahh, I think we might have got some debris from the Heinkel we shot down."
Looking at right hand propeller bent up. :-DD
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing in my book 😂
I soloed in the spring of 1975, and played that 633 squadron march as I taxied out and took off. Man, what a rush!
23:25 Ha, you had the same reaction as me: "Wait... [looks at prop]... that's not right... [stares some more]... The propeller shouldn't be bent like that..."
633 Squadron is, to this day, my favorite WWII movie.
633 squadron was an awesome film. Love the "mozzie"
Nice one. If I remember correctly, The film company purchased some of the last remaining real (by then, obsolete) Mosquito's from the military to use in the film 633 Squadron...
They destroyed them all in some of the scenes...
A sad loss, in my opinion.
Best wishes.
Only one was destroyed during filming,RS718.The rest still exist in museums ect. today.
You hit the 190 as he was taking off!
"Aren't you supposed to be turning, prop?" "They threw an elevator at me."
Best twin engine fighter bomber ever built. I have seen 633 squadron so many times. I may watch it after this video!!!
The Hurri, Mossie and Tempest, my top 3 Brit planes......thanks Taff :)
Love the theme tune. Film was a massive influence on star wars too.
If I remember correctly, I first came across the mosquito in a comic called Bradley and the flying tigers ,been my favourite 2ww plane ever since.
@Ruska correct I remember now thank you!
Nicely done with the iconic theme from 633 Squadron. I absoultely love that movie!
That soundtrack, a man of culture...
They finally put the mozzie in great stuff. Can’t wait to see you do a career.
It’s a beast! Rockets and 20mm Cannon can sink a ship. Britain’s wooden wonder.
Special in my heart as my grandfather was in the squadron as a fireman
Miles was very composed. Poker face or what lol
spot the 633 squadron quote... 'I'm gonna recommend you for a medal Taff, and when it comes - I'm gonna stick it right on your tail!' Wonderful video thanks Taff, would dearly love to see more Mosquito play, 2nd sexiest WW2 aeroplane after the magnificent Lancaster- but that's just my opinion!
Thankfully back then we had all the wonderful furniture makers and traditions to build these fantastic aircraft. (let alone all the aircrews who gave everything they had for us who flew them) Sadly we couldn't do it if it was today. We would have lost the war. That's something to think about.
Only discovered your channel after watching Team Fusion's promo of their next DLC. As I own all the products you showcase, I'm in for a treat watching your back catalogue. Cheers, and subscribed.
Been watching some of your stuff recently and this makes me want to get back into these games again (I had the original series). Actually quite liked the Sturmovik itself back then, but my favourite three aircraft from the conflict are; Hurricane, Typhoon and Beaufighter.
Love these taff! More please.
My Grandfather flew Mosquito MK VI's with 410 Squadron RCAF. Was killed near the Netherlands/Germany border Sept 1943. Mossies can't fight single seaters mate. All you can do is go in fast and get out faster.
I really need to make the time to get into IL-2. I don't know why it's never been a priority before!
Would love to see a series taff! 👍
VERY nice work here. I was getting the feel for the speed, and the combat seemed to be developing quite a bit quicker. I admit I was hoping for a bit more train derailment creativity from the A.I., but all and all great content for the channel! 💯
I wish there would be Beaufighters as well, the (not so) forgotten workhorse.
So long as you keep your speed, the Mosquito is a difficult adversary for Focke-Wulfs and Messerschmitts. Not a good idea to get in a turning fight that bleeds off your speed. I count 4x .303 MGs and 4x 20mm cannon in the nose - just a good squirt will do for the He-111s. She seems to be a very stable gun platform - one heck of an aircraft!
Great flying of my favorite WW2 Interceptor/Attack plane 😀 👍👍 5⭐
Great video, would love to see a Mosquito career at some point.
Miles sounds a bit posh for a Mosquito navigator. What about Ken, Nobby, Harry or Bob?
I love how you do a double-take at the bent prop and the broken starboard engine. Nice video.
I do love that 633 Squadron music but I think MGM are going to slap you quite hard for using it Taff.
Great video again Taff! Just wondering if you could take out the tracks in front of the train to stop it or make it crash? Not sure if it’s modelled in the game?
Unfortunately it's not modeled
Awesome video Taff I hope you do more.
633 Squadron music for the win!
Brilliant films I think they did two movies about 633 squadron the books are good to.
Squadron Leader Roy Grenville would be impressed!
633 Squadron was an excellent movie👍
A few prangs but overall great flights and shootdowns
Great flight! 😀
Smell a new series??
Nice, fantastic detail.
Fantastic stuff, thanks Taff
This was very nicely done, thanks. I have the Normandy mod in IL-2 sturmovik and only recently attempted to fly the Mossie. Funny, but I can't get it to turn while taxiing. Wonder what I'm doing wrong?
I think one of the more interesting Mosquito missions of WW2 was the one where they attempted to blow open the prison to free prisoners (It only kind of worked unfortunately).
I'd love to see a Mossie career.
How heroic!
👍👍
Would a comparison between the Mossie and a P38 be possible?
Possible yes, but not necessary as the p 38 wins out in speed and weapon payload, the only thing I can say is that the mosquitoes guns do pack a bugger sting than the p 38 and has more ammo. But basically the p 38 wins in both fighter and fighter bomber roles and is just more versatile.
Now sure the mosquito was a very versatile as well however it’s was made in multiple variants and yes they did the job efficiently in the war, but sadly in the game we only get the one and while I thinks great the p 38 just does the jobs much better than the mosquito.
Long story short it is wiser to use the p 38 in missions than the mosquito but I’ll say that the mosquito is still an very ok backup if and when needed.
@@bluestorm3628 possible P38 fan here? Opinion noted.
@@comesahorseman hi, I’d like to thank you for taking the time to read my very very long comment.
Hopefully to clear up any negativity from my comment if there was any.
In honesty if I had to pick my favourite one of the two I’d pick the mosquito, The report I’ve previously given, was granted maybe a bit harsh in some areas but I thought an honest opinion on the two aircrafts statistics and capabilities for in-game would be fair for others who play (me being one of them that has flown both, of which both are an absolute marvel to fly)
Overall if I had to choose my personal favourite of the two will be the mosquito, but if I had to inform someone which of the two would bring more and easier success for them in a mission it would be the p 38 lighting.
(Sorry if I’m and was sounding and coming across rude or impulsive, it wasn’t what I had intended and I humbly apologise to you sir 😔)
@@bluestorm3628 no problem.
@@bluestorm3628 BTW, if I could own/fly one American WW2 plane, it would probably be the 38. But, the Mossie is an interesting hybrid.
Hi Taff.... Excellent videos and commentary! I'm thinking of getting IL2.... How is best to play? Direct on a pc or through steam? Is there a minimum pc spec to play? Thanks
"Bumps-a-daisy. It's enough to make you weep."
Sticky under carriage lever
@@TaffinExile Well, I wouldn’t tell the CO that, sir. Not if I were you.
Really enjoyed that 🙂
This could be an very cool career
I guess there is more than one way to feather a prop.
More Mosquitto missions!!!
16:09 on your vid is the same place same map i rocketed my locomotive with my mossie, at13:21 on my mossie vid, lol coincidental
633 Squadron is also a series of novels
Witch mods do you use
The red bits on your wings is the self sealing fuel tanks 👍🇬🇧
How do you communicate with your Navigator, if he isn't wearing an O2 mask??
Think about that initial bounce of all those 109s taking off - all of a sudden a rocket spewing maniac appears directly ahead. Those 109 pilots would crap their pants!!!!!!!
I remember seeing a interview with a RAF pilot years ago he went up for a sortie against some 109s and bomber's there was only about 10 of them in the first group against 40 or so German aircraft and they pretty much just played chicken with the bomber's to start with and forced them to break formation.
They had some interesting tactics at times.
@@matthewcharles5867 I watched a TH-cam video interview of famous British test pilot, Eric "Winkle" Brown. During the time when he was stationed on an escort carrier guarding North Atlantic convoys, he developed an effective tactic against Fw 200 "Condor" bombers. He could approach the bomber head-on, dead level in his F4F Martlet fighter almost unscathed and open up on the enemy cockpit to deadly effect. It seems the forward-firing German gunners couldn't depress their MGs enough - it was like flying through a tunnel. Can you imagine the nerve it took to break off only at the last second?
@@jamesrussell7760 yeah they did some amazing things , sometimes making thing's up as they went along or doing something unexpected worked very well.
Had 3 relatives who flew in heavy bomber's and mosquito's they were all shot down during the war.
Read a letter from one of them who wrote to his mother saying being a gunner in the Lancaster's was getting a bit boring so he was going to go on pathfinder runs , he lasted only a few missions with the pathfinders . Lots of bravery with a bit of luck needed to survive.
Interesting to see how the different planes all have their strengths and weaknesses.
Can you use this on windows 10
Yes I run on Windows 10
Anyone who have played War Thunder knows that the co-pilot of british aircraft are named Nigel.
Ble mae'r dyn arall sy i fod mewn Mossie?
Watched and 👍 Liked
Hi Taff. What spec is your pc. Thinking about upgrading and if my frame rate and graphics can get near what you have, I’ll be a happy man
So answer the good man please!!!
Hey, Kangaroo Taff is back! Lock up your daughters, he's a man on a mission!
The final landing was clearly sponsored by Duracell … hop-hop-hop-… well after all other bunnies have stopped. There’s a plane that prefers flying to landing … even when running on their last engine!
Just got the expansion and am trying to fly the Mosquito but I cant get it to work. How do I even get it up in the air? It doesn't even give me enough power to lift, what am I doing wrong?
Full flaps and a long takeoff run? It's a converted bomber after all, you take off and land like a bomber does.
my favourite ww2 plane maybe
Looks like Jerry forgot his mozzy rep...
Not exactly the best rear visibility, eh Miles?
How come your navigator 👩🏻✈️ didn’t tell you your prop was damaged.? Was he asleep 😴
And why was 633 Squadron attacking a Nazi Glider Bomb factory in Norway..!! Because nobody would believe what they did in Oslo! In a long running spat spat with the Gestapo the Mossies were back on it for a little more low level raiding. One battle damage report listing wing tip damage, to a lamp post!! And an enemy kill, to a collision with an apple tree while in pursuit. This is fully reported...
My old mate John sadly passed away 2 years ago. As a post war De Havilland test pilot he thought the Vampire was great, but his favourite was the Mosquito.
Myles was not supportive at all. I think he’s mental. Leave him at home next time.🤣
bombs on the runway to take it out of action.
I just wish I could get my IL-2 to run on Windows 10
I hear Miles has put in for a transfer?? 3 Ops died on 1 crashed on1 damaged on 1!! Hmmm
The Copenhagen run? To late? Who's to say...
So I'm his navigator???
And he uses the music from the 1942 game.....
It’s Nigel, not miles
OK - Not to be pedantic.. but wasup with all the "D-Day" stripes" in these vids ? Obviously, its NOT D-Day here..
Cant always survive missions
You seem to be a nice bloke, but not the brightest bulb in in shop.
Goering wet his pants for this heavy fighter .. pity it was owned by the enemy ... Stop the tight turning, you'll lose all your speed. NO rear observer , to warn of fighter attack .. lol
The best thing about 633 Squadron is the music. The film is terrible with bloody awful special effects.
Those trees shouldn't even be there. Surrounding every track and road in trees is stupid. This is the laziest dev team that has ever existed. Always the easiest shortcut never again to be fixed or made better. The World is almost a completely dead place.
Why in all these excellent are they spoilt by the crew members wearing goggles down when not in actual combat it is a small thing but highly inaccurate, also navigators rarely wore goggles anyway.