VW hpfp high pressure fuel pump what to do if it fails
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c´mon, get on with it!
Holy long winded.
Ok if it's a 2.0tdi then vacuum and tandem pump are 1, 03G145209D part no , £200, $300 oem bosch part.
Catch it early and it wont be a big bill
Look for 1: smoke on start up
2: dirty black fuel filter
3: you can check tandem pump very easily(seals leak with time and return oil into fuel tank)
4: on changing pump, flush fuel system , new fuel filter and your good
Damn dude that thing you were pointing at was the vacuum pump. The HPFP is close to the fuel filter driven on the cambelt.
It Happens in Europe too, I have vw T6 in Ireland and Vw dealership Sucks here. The part it self costs 2000 euro. My car just went out the warranty, after maintaining long service history with dealer they just shows me middle finger .
hello Mike. My 2014 Passat TDi 133000 km stopped on the highway and VW says it needs new engine, covered under warranty. They need service records of oil change, i have 5 service records from canadian tire missing 2 that i did myself. The dealer said VW might deny the warranty . Please suggest how to proceed. Thanks ( I am in Ontario Canada)
This was the biggest waste of time ever
I live in Europe and have a 2019 Audi A3 1.6TDi, 60,000 miles and the HPFP has catastrophically failed, it’s a terrible design with the pump itself, what they say about it being down to fuel quality is rubbish
BMW are also notorious for hpfp failure. My 525d 3.0 diesel f10 has just suffered hpfp failure AND all 6 injectors and god knows what else needs doing! F*cking nightmare
It’s happening on European cars to. Just have the P0087 fault on mine Jetta here in Europe and it definitely the same situation.
good to know guys around here seem to think that things are different there. I am changing mine on a maintenance interval of 100k miles so I never will have a bad one. too much money to change them after they go bad
What's to point of a camera pointing at a engine cover??
By showing engine and some comments....problem solved......hokas pokas
Hey thanks for all the guys that weren’t negative and had positive helpful comments or at least shed some light and knowledge other then simple gripes and tampon needing to be changed. Learned some stuff from comments so gets a thumbs up in my book! 👍
Thanks for that
So they just Threatened Too call the national transportation safety board? And then Volkswagen decided to fix the car? I just want to make sure I'm understanding what you're saying because I'll have to remember this if I ever have this problem.
A lot of talking but not much info.
thank you very much bro👍👍
I drive a 2011 VW Sportwagen TDI and it happened to me this morning, the car just shut off and would not start back so I had it towed to the local VW dealer and after their diagnoses they found it was the high pressure fuel pump, yes you were right they wanted $8K to replace it and they said i had no warranty left, so did exactly as you said I told them I would report VW to the NTSB, then right right after they told me that they would call me back and to my surprise they are now covering it 100%!! 👍
did you have to do a fuel sample test ? Same thing happend today on 2013 tdi. car wont start thry want to replace everything 4 fuel injectors, hpfp and etc. no metal shavings in the system but the car wont start. They told me my fuel failrd
@@brkbrk5205 I dont know how they determined it was the high pressure fuel pump, they just call me and said it was bad and needed to be replace
and my car only has 60k miles on it so its definitely a VW faulty part
its got to be from all the smog crap they have to put on U.S. cars
@@zydecbro good that they will cover that . I’m waiting an answer from Vw costumer care. Byers are the worst dealership here in Columbus OH. they don’t want to do any job under warranty. few years ago i had Vw passat 2012 that needed clock spring replacement guess what? they didn’t want it to fix it. Easiest thing is to blame water in fuel they literally set me up
did u say u will report them to the NTSB OR NHTSA ?
NTSB they basically knew I was willing to go the extra mile to make sure it gets covered
I had hpfp failure, replaced with a new unit, new in tank pump, new injectors, coded, and my car still doesn't start, no warning codes, the revs reach 300 when cranking, but fuel pressure is only at 8 bar
Replace the rail pressure sender and the rail pressure regulator. If those are clogged with microscopic metal particles it thinks the pressure is too high and opens the fuel bypass back to the tank. You will never reach a high enough pressure (2,000 psi) to spray the diesel through the injectors. The pressure sensor also has to be reset in the car's software via VCDS or it still doesn't work. You can buy both for $132.00 or buy the entire fuel rail assembly for much more. Make sure you wash out the fuel rail too.
I am presently working through this on my 2009 TDI Jetta. Purchased a rebuilt HPFP from Bosch for $350 (same length warranty from Bosch as a new unit $1,600.00). Replaced fuel tank pump and sender, fuel filter, rail pressure sender + regulator, and blew out the lines. Last step is to replace injectors ONLY if needed. Car was running fine at 75mph when it suddenly died but smooth to the stop. 254,000 miles on fuel system. Loosing fuel pressure would do that more than 1 or 2 injectors clogged....it would have ran like crap until it died. Rebuilt injectors are ~$100 each.
You can verify it is the HPFP with ease. Open the pressure regulator on the pump itself (top of the pump). It only requires removing two small torx screws. If there are metal chard in the pump under the regulator it is toast.
The problem with the HPFP design is that the part driven by the timing belt is like a cam lobe. It comes across the pump rod pushing it forward to pump fuel. The circular shaft it is in is a smooth bore and the pump can wander up to 90 degrees away from the correct position allowing the pump to rub through the cam lobe rapidly. It could all be fixed with a key slot to prevent it from rotating out of position but that would cost 3 cents more to do.... but then they couldn't charge $9,000.00 for the repair.
There is also an alternate HPFP that can be used (modified) CP3 in place of the CP4. the CP3 also does not have to line up perfectly with top dead center since the CP3 has 3 lobes and the CP4 has only one.
HPFP is not where you show that is a vacum.pump for brake and other stuf ... the HPFP is on front of the engine ;)
My high pressure pump just exploded... only 117 ,000 miles on the car
Any advice???
parts available at Cascadegerman.com really cheap for original equipment stuff....Not too big of a job but pretty big. .Also Look up cp3. the CP4 pumps are complete bosch engineering failures. upgrade. Change to the CP3 and its smooth sailing. No more issues.
My high pressure feel pump broken 2 days ago And America dealer call me and and everything covered by the warranty
Even in india, this issue is a killer to owners pocket
It comes in my skoda superb and there is no engine sign .. I am not sure what to do
This guy does not know about vehicles . I really hope people do their own research and not just listen to this guy.
Thanks for the life story.
High pressure pump in above the alternator what you pointed at was a vacuum pump
Wish I saw this Video before I got it towed back from VW.
9 grand repair Warranty just expired
Gonna just sell it and get rid off this Headache
The same Problem have the cars in europe tdi models
Hi. HPFP is in the left were you see that metal pipe. Were you show in the right is just vacuum pump.
What Volkswagen dealership did you go to that decided to fix your car for you? thanks for any info.
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My VW Passat HPFP failed at 67,000 m. Went to VW and they asked 3k to replace it. Thank you for the info!!!
Got same problem on my 15 Passat at 57! K miles.. any chance to find if warranty should cover it?
I would sure try. Make sure the fuel was not contaminated they will reject it for that.....But the fuel station will cover it.
@@Mikefngarage already spoke with official dealer he said warranty will cover it
Thanks for sharing. Next time snatch off the cheesy plastic cover so we can see what you're talking about. Took mine off for hot summer heat. - take care
This happened to me! 2013 Passat TDI dead stop at 70MPH. Tow to dealer HPFP failure w/metal shavings throughout. Under extended warranty but need to send a fuel sample to VW of America in Michigan. They ran a Specific Gravity Test and told me I failed. Had it towed to a second dealer I trust, in my neighborhood, and asked for a fuel sample to have independently tested. Second dealer said I failed the Specific Gravity Test and gave me a picture of a guy holding a Petro Dector, and said I failed that test as well. The meter had a fronzy face on it??? Ya, Fronzy means you fail.
I sent a sample of my fuel to FOI Labs in Vancouver and it came back as 100% pure B10 diesel. They test for water, gas and bio blend additives. PROBLEM: As I learn more, (Ethan M. of the TDI Club) the problem is that my car was designed to run on ULSD Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel B # 2. The best I can find in my State of Illinois is Bio #10. Some pumps are as high as Bio # 20.
I'm wondering if I should even fix this car. In hind sight I should have sold it back last year when I had the chance to return under the Emission Scandal program.
What you are pointing at at 3:20 is not the high pressure feul pump. Nice story though
hmm I have never replaced it yet because it was already done when I got the car so I dont know exactly where it is. . I am replacing it right at 100k miles before it goes bad. on a maintenance interval. so I dont need to replace any other parts.
Mike F well you first need to know how to replace the timing belt and evrything involved because the hpfp is driven by the timing belt. It is not a easy fix thats why it is so expensive.
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Yea I was just looking at the pump driven by the timing belt. I am 100% certain I could do the job. I just have never done it. Mistaken for the intermediate pump on the driver side of the engine.
Mike F i'm preparing myself for the same job. Already did the belt and evrything. Preparing just incase. And this problem also happens in europ. I'm from the netherlands
engine code?
CBEA/CJAA
Vw are Bullshiting I live in the UK part of Europe fuels I have an Audi common rail 126000 and mine has just done it thanks for the info bro I will be getting in touch with them
why not put a filter on the return?
Potential Back pressure
@@niaedwards382 sure just put a big filter on. Back pressure only upon catastrophic failure.
Thanks I won't get a tdi , honda civic
yea they are really good those hondas. Honest gas mileage. the only thing better on the tdi is the city mileage is a few miles better and highway is 1 or 2 miles better. More problems
You obviously never done it yourself. You can get a genuine Bosch rebuilt high pressure pump from Rock auto for $421 with $200 core
genuine rebuilt" lol
@@MattBerrymotorsport and? 🤷🏻♂️
Dont see the point in this video. Waste of time. Why dont you go to a granny meeting if you just want to gossip chit.
If you put new injectors they have to be programed.Only If you change them.In Europe there is VCDS a software mare By Ross tech.The high pressure fuel pump is near diesel filter recipient,under the plastic motor cover,on the left side as you look in front of the car.And yes,it makes metal shavings as he says.Even here in Europe.Put some good filters,clean it well,regulated,and If you have any doubt clean the tank too and the fuel pipes ,injectors too.they can be refurbished.
Did i miss you saying what year this is?
Do you even know what youre talking about...12min of my life wasted
you even failed to remove the tapped cover to point the parts ,so your video is not help full is just a hammering our data
I had 326k miles on my jetta and nottin ever failed ! BTW: I used a bottle of "sea foam" from wallmart $8 every oil change - 10k miles (if I used whole bottle at once it would my dmf to slip car was just so strong thus I would use each bottle 50/50 for 2 fill ups and simply never have I had any problems/btw I had malone stage 2 tune on car with all emission devices present
in winter I used diesel additive on every or every other fill up and even my injectors were still OEM car ran as if it was electric so quiet and torquey
and yeah good point with your fuel filer I would replace it in between 10-40k miles depending on kind of diesel you use. at beggining I didint know about importance of diesel quality I had to change it every 10k mile/with oil change but once I started using additives without hesitation I would go 40k on filter and replaced it only as a precaution measure