How Professional Writers Take Notes on Books | Deep Questions with Cal Newport

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  • @LeneJohansen-i4j
    @LeneJohansen-i4j หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love that you say that we treat books too preciously. They are working tools. I got multiple copies of several books. Thank you!

  • @damonpthomas
    @damonpthomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    As a university academic with over two years of experience highlighting, tagging, and exporting notes from academic articles and book chapters into Obsidian, I can say that the corner marking method wouldn't work for me. It probably works if you're only reading a handful of books associated with a given project, but I'm reading articles every day and can't remember the specific quotes from what I read two weeks ago let alone two years ago. I did my PhD using a 'pragmatic' approach from 2011 to 2015 and now feel like all that reading was wasted (in terms of how easily I can now access those ideas when needed). Rather than drawing a star in the corner of a physical book, just adding a star tag to an electronic version and exporting to Obsidian or similar would mean you don't have to manually search through any books again and can essentially read them once. If you tag them more specifically for the topic and perhaps the rhetorical function (like if it's a definition or evidence or a benefit), you then wouldn't even need to scroll through all the stars; the system could just give you exactly what you wanted at point of need. I'd highly recommend anyone who needs to do a lot of reading invest the time in creating a personal knowledge management system using a tool like Obsidian, Notion or Roam. Thanks for the thought-provoking video!

    • @Robert.Stole.the.Television
      @Robert.Stole.the.Television 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Obsidian is ideal for making connections, but unfortunately many tags just become unwieldy after a while, and the system's attempt to give you an overview of the whole body of knowledge just makes it look like a conspiracy theory board.

    • @veronicaolivares9150
      @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      VERONICA OLIVARES
      hace 1 segundo
      "Según las tradiciones, durante el periodo de la interestación todas las personas aún si estuvieran sanas, tienen que realizar 4 sesiones de acupuntura y moxibustión, una cada semana durante las 4 semanas de la interestación. De este modo, se consigue fortalecer el sistema inmunológico y corregir posibles indicios de desarmonía en los órganos, especialmente en los que corresponden al elemento que predomina en la estación entrante. Este tratamiento preventivo de la interestación es lo más parecido a las vacunas en la medicina occidental; fortalece el sistema inmunológico, no desde fuera (vacunas) sino desde dentro (Wei Qí, la energía defensiva) this is from Dr Liu Zheng's book: www.doctoralia.es/liu-zheng/fisioterapeuta-terapeuta-complementario/madrid I want to change the SIS here in Peru this can help with Covit :)

    • @expeditioner9322
      @expeditioner9322 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your method. I was wondering when does learning happen in your method? I am taking about deep learning. The type that helps you to know the terrain like the back of your hand. The

    • @damonpthomas
      @damonpthomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@expeditioner9322 Thanks for the question. I started using Obsidian and my tagging approach to make it easier to write publications. While that has been the case, the biggest difference it's made for me is kickstarting a daily reading habit. Because I don't need to remember everything I read, reading has become almost addictive, like mining for gold. When you find a quote that resonates, you tag it and then know it will always be available for your future needs. It's stored, safe, and easily accessible. Because I'm reading so much more, I'm able to explore my field in much more depth but also have time to read into other fields too. This provides opportunities to make all kinds of novel connections to solve problems. So, while this definitely enhances writing, I'd say a PKM system that fits your workflow will also revolutionise your reading, thinking, and learning. Good luck!

    • @damonpthomas
      @damonpthomas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Robert.Stole.the.Television Hey there, I only just saw your reply. I think you're referring to the graph view in Obsidian that let's you look at all your notes (and the connections between them) in something akin to a mind map. I don't use the graph view with my method, but other people do and they swear by it. You can look at a local graph for each note which only shows the notes that directly link to it (you can specify how many steps of connection you want to see). A good example of that can be seen here: th-cam.com/video/GtChrK4a-mc/w-d-xo.html My personal approach with tags doesn't look like this. I just tag, store, and access useful quotes when I need them. Obsidian is a flexible tool but other apps let you do similar things. Cheers!

  • @vixcentral
    @vixcentral ปีที่แล้ว +10

    0:32 corner marking method
    1:06 "zedelkasten" vs "pragmatic" schools of thought
    1:50 taking notes has to do with purpose of why you're reading x y z
    5:00 walkthrough of how Cal takes notes -> focus on simplicity and 'low-friction'
    10:00 mark up as much as possible when you read and use them as resource/brainstorming tools for further study
    10:50 treat books as physical artifacts rather than precious collectables
    15:00 when to "skim" vs "read"

  • @stephaniedecuir85
    @stephaniedecuir85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've been looking at you as a mentor, I am impressed by the way you created all of your career success being so clear and focused on what matters to you, really inspiring. I've been reading a lot lately, going through "Deep work" and getting a lot of knowledge from it! Even considering my career (art and animation ) kind of dificult to align with another type of profession as yours, I've been adapting the concepts, I hope to reach out some questions to you soon!

  • @108u9
    @108u9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Taking a piece from what Cal mentions as a litmus to figuring which structural route to go for oneself - do you see that you tend to recall well why you wrote what you wrote down previously after a period of time of several months/years? Do you tend to forget things if you don’t not them down relatively quickly?
    I find that I have issues in recall later if I don’t also note down why I’m highlighting something. It also doesn’t help if the resulting situation is that there are lots of undifferentiated highlighted passages. I find that I’d likely have to reread and rethink what the highlights point to. The odds are there’s a chance I don’t even remember exactly what the highlighting is for.
    But if one’s more like Cal in terms of recall, it’s certainly feasible and possibly advantageous speed wise to do it the way Cal does.
    Either approach, IMO it’s worth heeding the call to make functional what we read. To deepen, massage, mull over, practice, embody. Often we don’t really need ever more information per se, it’s the application and reflection of that application that’s a more significant gap.

  • @jenniferwood78
    @jenniferwood78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually find much food for thought in your pieces, but this was especially helpful. I'm going into a Ph.D program & consider myself a pretty good note-taker, but I'm going to need all the help I can get in improving my efficiency & effectiveness as a scholar & writer. There's plenty of generic (if generally true) advice out there; what I find particularly constuctive is the kind of detailed, in-depth, & creative suggestions that you so often put forth.

  • @TalesofaHobbyHopper
    @TalesofaHobbyHopper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is maybe my favorite video of yours ever (I've been watching a couple months.) I'm the Zettelkasten method myself, but it is cool to see how you do it.

  • @gladlaxe
    @gladlaxe หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because I enjoy the experience, I borrow books from the library. It gives me something to know that others have read the book before me (especially with fiction, there is a bond). Reading a copy that is older than myself is just qualia. For non-fiction, stacking the library up with good titles is also a good feeling. For notes, I jot in markdown. Typing is fast, so I can also quote poignant segments.

  • @maderaverdes
    @maderaverdes ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a big Austen fan. Been to her house in Chawton, which you briefly mentioned and everything. Glad you're doing research to make her even more relevant in today's society. There is a north American organization JASNA that could be helpful if you need any help with anything regarding her life, etc.

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "the shallows" The Distraction addiction - Alex Soojung - Kin Pang great :)

  • @sesyblue1563
    @sesyblue1563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why shouldn't I copy the relevant information into another system? I find it convenient to have a notebook with notes from several books (kindle or not).

  • @AudioDestinyHQ
    @AudioDestinyHQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:06 On using kindle

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    First we have to sell the land then the house land is in Cayma as well :) Let me know if you are interested regards from Peru

  • @DrPatrickKingsep
    @DrPatrickKingsep 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Cal and others, This is Patrick here from Mind Life Flow Channel (Clinical Psychologist in Australia). Interesting video and advise - thank you

  • @sameerchaturvedi2
    @sameerchaturvedi2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I take notes of certain paragraphs of a book after few days or a week my interpretation of the paragraph changes , actually that hampers my productivity, fellow scholars, colleagues and friends what's your strategy

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gracias yo solo leí tu libro enfócate y siempre tomo notas

  • @DutchGuyInChina
    @DutchGuyInChina ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't think the zettelkasten counts as a school of thought on when and what notes to take. I use the zettelkasten strategy for storing my notes, but I don't take notes on everything I read just for the sake of expanding my zettelkasten. If I get an interesting idea, no matter where it comes from, I write it down, that's all.

  • @killeropi
    @killeropi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    there's an option to display the page you're on in kindle

  • @laurasalnu6303
    @laurasalnu6303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This works for a dissertation or Thesis

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Por lo tato, seguir siendo valiosos en nuestra economía, es necesario que dominemos el arte de aprender rápidamente cosas complicadas. Esta labor exigen un trabajo profundo. Si no cultivamos esa aptitud, nos quedaremos atrás conforme vaya avanzando la tecnología"

  • @ridwanslife
    @ridwanslife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suppose this won't work in Kindle app?

  • @expeditioner9322
    @expeditioner9322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do we only equate only non-fiction with knowledge? What is fiction then? Am I deluded to think that equating knowledge with only non fiction is wrong and that fiction is also knowledge?

  • @FirstNameLastName-kt3zn
    @FirstNameLastName-kt3zn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zettelkasten method

  • @expeditioner9322
    @expeditioner9322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    C'mon man. Buy the same book again just to read it in a different context? Why can't I instead use a different color pen?

  • @sameerchaturvedi6675
    @sameerchaturvedi6675 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Por lo tanto, para seguir siendo valiosos en nuestra economía, es necesario que dominemos el arte de aprender rápidamente cosas complicadas. Esta labor exige un trabajo profundo. Sino cultivamos esta aptitud, no quedaremos atrás conforme vaya avanzando la tecnología".

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Si organizo mi vida de tal manera que logre juntar grades segmentos de tiempo interrumpido y consecutivo, puedo escribir novelas. (Si por el contrario, me interrumpe demasiado). Qué obtengo a cambio? En lugar de sacar novela que puede circular por mucho tiempo(...) habré escrito motones de correos electrónicos que recibirán unas pocas personas"

  • @Alvin1967
    @Alvin1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    primer mundo ...comprar varias copias del mismo libro // el hiperconsumismo es obsceno

    • @jenniferwood78
      @jenniferwood78 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do have a point; not eveyone who is intellectually ambitious has a lot of disposable income (& Cal, I know people have pointed that out to you before). Perhaps it would be better to say, "Try this if you *can,* & if it works for you, but also share any books you no longer need."

    • @pedrorodriguez230-e2u
      @pedrorodriguez230-e2u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      él no lo hace siempre,además el libro digital no causa el mismo efecto psicológicamente hablando que el libro digital.

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was thinking about a robot president? Since everyone is so corrupt in Peru and everywhere :)

  • @Alvin1967
    @Alvin1967 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Va mi 👍🏽 ,pero comprar libros en mi país es muy oneroso

  • @Jennifer-z4z2z
    @Jennifer-z4z2z 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lopez Kevin Johnson Melissa Hernandez Betty

  • @PJLeblanc
    @PJLeblanc หลายเดือนก่อน

    That might work for some people. I can't agree on "your brain will remember that" cause well, mine don't 😅. What's funny is that I've been intuitively using this exact method, but never worked for me.

  • @MillPaddy-s9r
    @MillPaddy-s9r 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jackson Donald Brown Cynthia Garcia Scott

  • @NatalieBeck-b4p
    @NatalieBeck-b4p 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thompson Charles Davis Amy Moore Maria

  • @KofikaJahan
    @KofikaJahan วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hall Kimberly Young Brian Robinson Betty

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to sell our house in Arequipa to help my mom in order for her to buy an apparment house is in Arequipa

  • @Matt365RTS
    @Matt365RTS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you decide to become a teacher? I want to make an impact in the world. Is there a logical argument you can outline?

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mi país se está yendo al diablo y es hermoso por favor ayúdanos

  • @JimRiley-d1r
    @JimRiley-d1r 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    White Matthew Taylor Sarah Jackson Margaret

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Con estas personas del JnE estamos fregados en Perú Help please

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dharma

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A JesusChrist Robot

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is Arequipa: es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arequipa

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    house is in Cayma: es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distrito_de_Cayma lovely district

  • @veronicaolivares9150
    @veronicaolivares9150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also this lady corrupt: es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_Boluarte