@@karenlinares7541 they both really need it let's be honest here. Jon’s need for it is quite obvious but Martin also needs it I mean he was in constant stress and isolation for a long time and then all of this.
@@namaschu9418 I have OCD and compulsively correct stuff when I'm tired, haven't slept in days lol; Also, I like when things are spelt right in general but that's much less important lmao.
I adore the overarching story and the creepy aesthetic and this whole thing but I just wanna focus for a second on the fact that Martin gave Jon a jar of ashes just to calm his nerves. He’s so sweet! I know Jon does actually care about him and all his assistants, but I feel like Martin’s kindness has got to be recognized more!!
I think Jon cares deeply about Martin and the other assistants, else he wouldn't have had Martin stay at the archive after the attack on him. He just doesn't like showing it openly.
Jon: I'm not an idiot, obviously also Jon: I went into the spooky caves full of worm-corpses, at night, alone, and without having told anyone about it, with nothing but a single torch
@@frogonthebikeheh oh, well. Good. Okay, nah, but srsly, I've gone through the full thing a couple times, now that it's finished. And, no, yeah, he doesn't stop being an idiot lmao I can assure that he makes it to The End tho :)
"I am not a brave man....but I am, in certain circumstances, a very stubborn one." I think that might be my favourite line from Jon. And very relatable.
YES!!! I've heard that audio clip so many times in cosplay tiktoks and whatnot I literally screeched when I heard it here!!! *THIS IS WHRE IT IS FROM. IT IS FROM THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES.8
The geologist in me got excited about the "warped stone" because it sounds like phyllite (which photographs just cannot do justice - it's SO weird in person) before coming back to my senses and realizing that it was supposed to be creepy and supernatural, not a specific type of real rock xD
@@TheJuliana0901 I genuinely have no idea. I really love rocks and I've taken a whole bunch of university geology classes - but my degree isn't actually in geology, and I've never learned much about building or usage. I mostly just learned identification and where to find a bunch of rocks and minerals. Sorry ^^;
"...This level of paranoia is new to me... but I'm learning fast." That's a big abuse victim mood, ha. On a serious note, revisiting the series and listening critically is so interesting, I'm excited for the latest season to come out.
@@dirtyraccoon3014 ✨Yaaaas✨I'm from Poland 💖💅🏻 Love your name btw, we shall become yt besties ;) Dirty raccoon X The Frog on the bike Martin'll be jealous 😌💅🏻
My overwhelming urge to give Jon a hug is growing exponentially with each episode. Martin please hug this man for us ALSO the fact that he didn't erase his chalk coming back is giving me so much anxiety like THINGS CAN FOLLOW THOSE. THINGS CAN FOLLOW THOSE AND BREAK YOUR FLIMSY LOCK. NO.
@cak01vej well, I'm not sure he would have time to collect all the rope while running in panic... Though, simply cutting it and leaving would probably the same level of bad as leaving drawn arrows...
@cak01vej to be fair, he probably didn't know where to get that much thread + drawing arrows is easier to follow in a panic than having to pick up the thread and trying not to fall over it. At the beginning he was also sceptical over whether or not there's even somebody down there.
Nothing, and I mean nothing, in all of the recordings has filled me with more dread than the realization that... We are hearing those tapes. I love spiders, I watch mango worms being squeezed out on TH-cam, darkness and tight spaces mean safety to me, I've never been afraid of being alone, I don't have any phobias at all, and I don't believe in the supernatural. But this? We seem to be the next archivist, or perhaps someone else who got to them, and this makes it oh so much more close and personal. This makes it almost... Real, at least at the moment.
what if we are the thing that is watching him? He has said in the last three episodes that whenever he goes to take a statement with the recorder, he feels that something is watching him, and we can only hear the statements that he makes with the recorder
@@jonathanmeans506 I won't spoil it for you, but in the context of what we find out later, your theory is basically canon. (I wrote this comment with the limited information we have)
A remark I'd like to make after reading this is that we have established that modern equipment doesn't mesh well with these recordings. He's using a goddamn tape recorder in 2016! Soooooo.... how can we hear all of this? Has every case been resolved? Did they make a breakthrough? Who is reformatting and uploading these recordings to youtube? John? Or someone else? It's this aspect of this series, these 'rules' that are being established that hook me in the most. To be honest I've only felt true dread once: when Sasha 'met' not-Sasha.... I hope she's alright but knowing the attitude these things generally have towards humans ... :(
@@cawareyoudoin7379 oh trust me I will :). I'm currently at episode 47 and if you remember it/revisit you know something very interesting happens so I'm excited to see how this progresses
finished writing my dissertation on jeremy bentham today. suffice it to say, jon casually name-dropping the object of my academic obsession gave me a start more violent than any jumpscare. also the panopticon was actually his brother’s idea. lore drop out
21:00 ish is JUST WHAT this whole episode is reminding me of lost johns cave with the changing routes and the darkness, and the confusion but this is so close to an actual quote. and when he said the walls were getting narrower it reminded me of gerard keayes in .. old passage? lost passage? or something who kept asking if the passage was getting narrower
The changing paths remind me personally by the novel “House of leaves” by Mark Z. Danielewski. It is really quite similar to the episode as a whole; the missions of exploring, the way of telling the stories and the general spooky vibes. Great book.
First time listener...when Jon says he’s being watched could it possibly be the thing that ‘gets’ Sasha? I remember an eerie voice walk up to the tape recorder and say “I see you.”
The “I see you” I think was John talking to the spider lol but I could definitely be wrong, but if u read the transcript it should say who talks. Btw it could be.. But I think it’s something way bigger. Like the entity in the tunnels.. that feels more powerful than a shapeshifter and it was definitely watching him bc of the arrow the warning etc but maybe it is something even bigger than that. I feel like the plot is very intricate
I'm on my first listen and I feel like there's 2 "classes" of horror, the monsters, and the concepts. And I feel like the watching feeling is probably a concept
"Why point me down only to tell me leave" Quite sure that, once again, there were multiple forces in the tunnels and what ever told our theatre nerd to leave probably did them a service
When Jon mentioned the feeling of being watched last season, I thought he might be referring to us, but in this episode, he mentions that he feels it even when reading statements, and we don't watch him then. And with all the tapes that have gone missing... It makes me wonder who is playing them to us.
I finished S1 like idk 10 minutes ago, and I’ve just been crying over Martin’s lil apology for that time. But I’m pretty good now, so I’m starting S2. I’m pretty much just here to say that I love this podcast with my entire being and after a week of listening I have an emotional connection to it jsjs. Thank you for creating this podcast, it’s amazing and I’m really excited to listen to more. Though I’m scared about reaching the end of the podcast.
@@NullIsntSane SPOILER ALERT Dropped this when they were in that strange realm trying to stop the circus I think? Honestly at that point it was hard to keep up with all the details /plot plus I struggled a bit to understand the English from time to time, but it’s still a really good podcast
Oh, those ruminations on the nature of the tunnels. Hindsight is 20/20 and all, but it really is amazing how organic and well thought out even the "normal, background" descriptions are. Like, to have all this potential included right from the start and planned to this degree, so it matches absolutely perfectly, without any plotholes (at least none I could notice) and still with so awesomely ample room for speculations it is not only truly amazing, deeply humbling writing but also perfect for the genre!
15:42 Thank you Magnus Archives for finally solving a personal mystery of mine! I had forgotten which philosopher had this idea of a prison system and it's been BUGGING me
I guess this is kind of a metaphor for Jon being in too deep. His first monster attack came from the tunnels. Before that, Jon could hide and lie, but now he's in it for real, too deep to back out.
There is something about Jon finding out that Gertrude recorded tapes, just like him, and I think it shows that she wasn't quite as careless or chaotic as Jon made her out to be in the first episodes but it is also a little scary. We don't know what she recorded, but it could be that she did it out of the same fear of becoming a mystery, that makes Jon record everything and now he can't even access them to be witness to her existence. I don't know, but to me that thought is so tragic and so bitter
Mad ramblings aren't so mad when you know the context. Also....... Spoiler I love the idea of uragan just trying his best to fascinate Jon and then running out of ideas then going "can you please leave now"
Two sides opposing. One wants him to discover something down there, the other wants him to stay out. Which means one thing. Jon is a threat, one that each side is either working to eliminate or exploit. Very curious.
I listened to tma for the first time about a year ago. A few days ago, I decided to start over, and I was a little worried it'd be less creepy or entertaining, but thankfully I was extremely wrong. Knowing what happens later in the series makes all the little details dropped here and there wonderful :) Truly an excellent series!
Honestly I first thought of glow sticks too. I imagined just putting like a hundred of them in a net and carrying it with you but taping it to your body seems more practical tbh
19:01 "I am not a brave man... I believe I am starting to come to terms with that fact, but I am, in certain circumstances, a very stubborn one..." "There was something inside me that made the decision that I would rather die at the hands of some tunnel dwelling beast than work above without knowing what it was..." I needed this ENTIRE THING... so I could get a full version of an edit audio.... it hurts because of how relatable it is...
I thought that maybe instead of chalk john could've used like a string or something but then I thought that maybe whatever demons lurked in the tunnels could cut the string and the chalk seemed to make perfect sense to me then lol
End of S4 Spoilers ... I can't believe they mentioned the Panopticon this early???? I know it's an actual concept from the real world but they did say they've had the ending planned almost from the start
The foreshadowing in the series is insane. Jon's comments about the tunnels giving him a strange inexplicable feeling comeback in season 4-5 with a vengeance. His observations that it appears to be a maze also.
THIS episode reminds me of the expeditions in the book "House of Leaves" Not that they have a lot in common, there is just something so scary about exploring tunnels and isolated labyrinthian corridors, while something/anything could be down there. The thrill of maybe finding something amazing 🤩 and the dread of maybe finding your own end 🪦
Something I recently started thinking about is that the Magnus Institute was founded 1818, but the Millbank Prison was finished 1821. We know the Institute was build in the location of Millbank, but was it in another location while the prison was build and active?
It was originally located in Edinburgh, Scotland, and moved to London some time _after_ Millbank was demolished. The current institute building, like most of Kensington-Chelsea (including the Tate Gallery), is sitting on top of the site of Millbank Prison.
listening back to this again and I still think it's so funny how dramatic Jon is, like don't get me wrong, its a stressful situation- but my dude is very angst
"Why point me downwards, only to then demand I run back?" Considering that I'm fairly sure from everything I heard prior this, that the Archive is the territory of Open Eye, maybe it wanted to simply get a look?
The most painful thing about being so late to this series is not being able to look up the amazing art that I’m sure exists out there…like I’m seeing the images so clearly in my head and it’s gonna be so satisfying to finally be able to look them up, but…spoilers 😣
I think I started listening to the MA at the perfect time. As it seems like I will be coming back. To be honest I'm not that far in in the grand scale of things but I find I enjoy the story narrations much more than the wrap around story.
I know were supposed to be worried and sympathize with Jon, which Im doing a lot of, I'd give my life for all the characters here, the good ones at least and hearing Jon's voice sounding so broken broke me, and him apologizing to Martin is the sweetest thing ever, in short, this episode, although Im only 4 minutes and exactly 10 seconds long, has me going on an emotional rollercoaster. But the comments, the fricking comments. All the comments as of 12th February 2021 7:34 pm phst are all odd numbers. Which may not freak you out but my mind is scattered from Sasha dying, Tim still signed off, Martin doing the outro instead of Jon ( I learned that from a comment) and all the other stuff that has been going on in the world and in TMA Universe has made me super jumpy and now fricking odd numbers scare me. This series is amazing as fuck and is one of the best things ever, along with white chocolate, and no one is changing my mind.
Jon: trust can get you killed The ads:FIND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ON BUMBLE❤❤❤ Me: take what I'm "looking for" and shove it up your- Jon: statement ends
The arrow pointing down.... We heard previously how the things were studying how to imitate humans, studying anatomy and what-nots. I think the arrow was supposed to be the same kind of imitation, but the thing hadn't understood the reasoning of it. I don't think it wanted him to follow it down. Maybe it was imitating that arrow because it noticed he wasn't going down any areas that had been marked, and it thought that by marking it, he would skip over it too, not understanding how they were pointing back to the entrance
Jon: I feel like I'm being watched.
Me, currently listening to him say that: Oh shit, he's on to us!
Abandon boat! *Blows boatswain's call and yeets myself into the lifeboat*
Hahaha, underrated comment
GET DOWN❕❕❕
SCATTER
It was like that one scene in ratatouille
Ah. I see Jon has officially graduated from skepticism to paranoia. Yay.
it's either one or the other.
Its not paranoia if someone is actually out to get you
@@jackhazardous4008then it’s just a good hunch!
Everyone: John × Martin
Me, an intellectual: John × therapy
Its a polyamorous relationship
@@karenlinares7541 they both really need it let's be honest here. Jon’s need for it is quite obvious but Martin also needs it I mean he was in constant stress and isolation for a long time and then all of this.
I hate to be that person but it's spelt Jon, not John
@@emerz3530 ok, so what?
@@namaschu9418 I have OCD and compulsively correct stuff when I'm tired, haven't slept in days lol; Also, I like when things are spelt right in general but that's much less important lmao.
"I am not a brave man" says archivist jon sims holding a knife and a torch in a supernatural tunnel he went to explore alone at 3am
I adore the overarching story and the creepy aesthetic and this whole thing but I just wanna focus for a second on the fact that Martin gave Jon a jar of ashes just to calm his nerves. He’s so sweet! I know Jon does actually care about him and all his assistants, but I feel like Martin’s kindness has got to be recognized more!!
I think Jon cares deeply about Martin and the other assistants, else he wouldn't have had Martin stay at the archive after the attack on him. He just doesn't like showing it openly.
Yes!!!!!! Same!!!!!
I ship it!
aww, martin gave Jon Prentiss' ashes? That's so sweet!
@@lamp2556 well you’re in for a very pleasant surprise
Jon: I'm not an idiot, obviously
also Jon: I went into the spooky caves full of worm-corpses, at night, alone, and without having told anyone about it, with nothing but a single torch
Lol but it was smart not to tell anyone. He can’t trust his coworkers and I think he’s so so right
@@alessiapalma8823 haha, yeah, about that - having finished the podcast as far as it is already, lemme tell you... He's being an idiot
@@lemmetalkaboutthis You're scaring me
@@frogonthebikeheh oh, well.
Good.
Okay, nah, but srsly, I've gone through the full thing a couple times, now that it's finished. And, no, yeah, he doesn't stop being an idiot lmao
I can assure that he makes it to The End tho :)
@@lemmetalkaboutthis Yes, Jon surviving is the best thing :)
I love how the comment section is still alive after all those years
Jon: recording ends.
Me: [reaching to pick up phone]
Jon: supplemental-
Me: !!!!!
Thanks for making me unpause the video and listen lol
Thank you
Ong lmao
Same😂😂😂😂
"I am not a brave man....but I am, in certain circumstances, a very stubborn
one."
I think that might be my favourite line from Jon. And very relatable.
YES!!! I've heard that audio clip so many times in cosplay tiktoks and whatnot I literally screeched when I heard it here!!! *THIS IS WHRE IT IS FROM. IT IS FROM THE MAGNUS ARCHIVES.8
can we get this poor man some therapy Please
Mood
Fr tho
Jon: I'm not stupid
Also Jon: Now continue listening to me recount the stupidest thing I've ever done
SO FAR. The stupidest thing he's ever done SO FAR.
The most stupid thing he's done *so far* 😂
Jon: "If you are hearing this I'm dead or missing." Me: "NOOO!!!"
I hope it's just missing
Plot twist: I hope we're listening to this after Jon solved everything and is fine?
@@dude59974 :)
:)
@@dude59974 :)
Jon: *Somebody's watching me*
Also Jon: *Haha, let's get into creepy tunnels in the middle of the night*
Alone
With nothing, but a torch
"the only light down there is the one you bring yourself" i feel like that statement is about more than just a flashlight.
Its also about his phone and playing candy crush to calm his nerves
@@zealotoftheorchard9853 XD
That's what I was thinking
The geologist in me got excited about the "warped stone" because it sounds like phyllite (which photographs just cannot do justice - it's SO weird in person) before coming back to my senses and realizing that it was supposed to be creepy and supernatural, not a specific type of real rock xD
You never know mate, all the historical characters are real, the archiving is correct, maybe the geology is too
is there anything specific about phyllite usages? is it uncommon to be built with?
@@TheJuliana0901 I genuinely have no idea. I really love rocks and I've taken a whole bunch of university geology classes - but my degree isn't actually in geology, and I've never learned much about building or usage. I mostly just learned identification and where to find a bunch of rocks and minerals. Sorry ^^;
Dreamscape195 hey, way more than i knew before! thanks for the interesting info, didnt know that rocks could do that
yo those are some cool rocks
next ep : Martin listens to this and kills jon
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey spoilers!
Imao rip
jon: ye i went and explored the creepy tunnels by myself
martin: so you have chosen D E A T H
@@f_mva HAGJFWUPFQPUGWPU
Sweeeeeeet caroline **bang** **bang** **bang**
"...This level of paranoia is new to me... but I'm learning fast." That's a big abuse victim mood, ha. On a serious note, revisiting the series and listening critically is so interesting, I'm excited for the latest season to come out.
There is going to be more of Magnus Archives??!! Yei :))))
@@frogonthebikeheh omg are you from poland? I’m from poland too
@@dirtyraccoon3014 ✨Yaaaas✨I'm from Poland 💖💅🏻 Love your name btw, we shall become yt besties ;) Dirty raccoon X The Frog on the bike
Martin'll be jealous 😌💅🏻
@@frogonthebikeheh siema
My overwhelming urge to give Jon a hug is growing exponentially with each episode. Martin please hug this man for us
ALSO the fact that he didn't erase his chalk coming back is giving me so much anxiety like THINGS CAN FOLLOW THOSE. THINGS CAN FOLLOW THOSE AND BREAK YOUR FLIMSY LOCK. NO.
@cak01vej well, I'm not sure he would have time to collect all the rope while running in panic... Though, simply cutting it and leaving would probably the same level of bad as leaving drawn arrows...
@cak01vej to be fair, he probably didn't know where to get that much thread + drawing arrows is easier to follow in a panic than having to pick up the thread and trying not to fall over it. At the beginning he was also sceptical over whether or not there's even somebody down there.
Jon is so messed up now. He really needs some therapy
Yea.....
You have *no* idea
And some tea and blankets.
and its only the beginning of season 2. I cant imagine what season 5 john is like😔
@@kavarrah Oh he's fine. He's retired to a small cottage where he sits drinking tea and looking at cows.
I straight up dropped my phone at "Statment of Jonathan Sims"
YO! season one was good, but this just hit a whole new level. Season One: Skepticism, Season Two: Paranoia.
Jon: "Finally, three years later, they brought in Robert Smirk."
Me: *almost spits out my pita chips* "Oh shit."
Nothing, and I mean nothing, in all of the recordings has filled me with more dread than the realization that... We are hearing those tapes. I love spiders, I watch mango worms being squeezed out on TH-cam, darkness and tight spaces mean safety to me, I've never been afraid of being alone, I don't have any phobias at all, and I don't believe in the supernatural. But this? We seem to be the next archivist, or perhaps someone else who got to them, and this makes it oh so much more close and personal. This makes it almost... Real, at least at the moment.
what if we are the thing that is watching him? He has said in the last three episodes that whenever he goes to take a statement with the recorder, he feels that something is watching him, and we can only hear the statements that he makes with the recorder
@@jonathanmeans506 I won't spoil it for you, but in the context of what we find out later, your theory is basically canon. (I wrote this comment with the limited information we have)
A remark I'd like to make after reading this is that we have established that modern equipment doesn't mesh well with these recordings. He's using a goddamn tape recorder in 2016! Soooooo.... how can we hear all of this? Has every case been resolved? Did they make a breakthrough? Who is reformatting and uploading these recordings to youtube? John? Or someone else? It's this aspect of this series, these 'rules' that are being established that hook me in the most. To be honest I've only felt true dread once: when Sasha 'met' not-Sasha.... I hope she's alright but knowing the attitude these things generally have towards humans ... :(
@@IEF_AM I can only say I am so, so sorry. Listen further.
@@cawareyoudoin7379 oh trust me I will :). I'm currently at episode 47 and if you remember it/revisit you know something very interesting happens so I'm excited to see how this progresses
Martin's va doing the outro scared me, Haha
I feel less alone with this, it made me jump
I now know what you meant lol
Same lol
Jon: "no Martin is just worried about my health"
Baby girl we're all worried about your health
I love how we're now just watching Jon slowly descend into insanity
is it just me or is the audio MUCH easier to understand this season
rusty quill said the audio was unbalanced in the first season and they might redo it but the rest is fine
Jon: Feels like he is being watched
Me, listening to Jon: 👁👄👁
dark senseless hallways that warp endlessly? careful of any m̶i̶n̶o̶t̶a̶u̶r̶s̶
Dude, I thought the same.
Hahah I had the same thought
house of leaves homies
finished writing my dissertation on jeremy bentham today. suffice it to say, jon casually name-dropping the object of my academic obsession gave me a start more violent than any jumpscare. also the panopticon was actually his brother’s idea. lore drop out
Oh shit, that's so cool
21:00 ish is JUST WHAT
this whole episode is reminding me of lost johns cave with the changing routes and the darkness, and the confusion but this is so close to an actual quote. and when he said the walls were getting narrower it reminded me of gerard keayes in .. old passage? lost passage? or something who kept asking if the passage was getting narrower
lost jon's tunnels
Yeah I agree... creepy shit...
The changing paths remind me personally by the novel “House of leaves” by Mark Z. Danielewski. It is really quite similar to the episode as a whole; the missions of exploring, the way of telling the stories and the general spooky vibes. Great book.
Still worried about that Not!Sasha, dunno bout the rest of you, but I see no mention of it...
Sasha's fine, she's always sounded like that.
Please don't fucking spoil.
@@ghostysimp5470 what was spoiled?
If you listened to the season 1 finale credits, it lists Not Sasha. No spoilage
what are you talking about? sasha is the same as always.
holy shit it is so much more stressful hearing the account of my main guy heading alone into danger then hearing all the previous statements
Jon: “And yet I still feel as if someone is watching me”.
Me: 👁👄👁
First time listener...when Jon says he’s being watched could it possibly be the thing that ‘gets’ Sasha? I remember an eerie voice walk up to the tape recorder and say “I see you.”
The “I see you” I think was John talking to the spider lol but I could definitely be wrong, but if u read the transcript it should say who talks.
Btw it could be.. But I think it’s something way bigger. Like the entity in the tunnels.. that feels more powerful than a shapeshifter and it was definitely watching him bc of the arrow the warning etc but maybe it is something even bigger than that. I feel like the plot is very intricate
@@alessiapalma8823 i don't think its an entity in the tunnels, I think the tunnels, and maybe the archive too, is an entity itself
I'm on my first listen and I feel like there's 2 "classes" of horror, the monsters, and the concepts. And I feel like the watching feeling is probably a concept
Oh that's clever. I hadn't make the connection with not!Sasha, but it sounds incredibly likely in hindsight.
"Why point me down only to tell me leave"
Quite sure that, once again, there were multiple forces in the tunnels and what ever told our theatre nerd to leave probably did them a service
John bon Jovi seems to have at least one functional Braincell and he uses it to not trust anyone. Honestly mood
Someone needs to take a mug of black coffee - no sugar, no milk - and a bottle of brandy, put the brandy in the coffee, and give it to Jon.
Coffee is much worse at hiding tastes than you may think...
Also: Let the man get some sleep!
“I am NOT a brave man” okay, but mood though
jon seems very healthy and mentally sound
Who approved Smirke's construction? It sounds like the opposite of what was needed.
Smirke does what Smirke wants. No one tells him what to do. lol
I think the idea is that it would be hard for a prisoner to escape if the prison is like a maze.
I enjoy the creepiness of these.
That chalk arrow pointing down the stairs gave me PROPER CHILLS
When Jon mentioned the feeling of being watched last season, I thought he might be referring to us, but in this episode, he mentions that he feels it even when reading statements, and we don't watch him then. And with all the tapes that have gone missing... It makes me wonder who is playing them to us.
Martin and the jar of dust is adorable
Why did my mind think about a certain phrase that goes "I got a jar of dirt~"
Omg Martin is doing the post ep description from now on? What is this lifetime of blessings?
I finished S1 like idk 10 minutes ago, and I’ve just been crying over Martin’s lil apology for that time. But I’m pretty good now, so I’m starting S2. I’m pretty much just here to say that I love this podcast with my entire being and after a week of listening I have an emotional connection to it jsjs. Thank you for creating this podcast, it’s amazing and I’m really excited to listen to more. Though I’m scared about reaching the end of the podcast.
NO BC SAME AND HIS APOLOGY WAS SO SAD 😭😭😭😭
there are two entities there maybe? one wanting him to go further, one keeping away? 👀
Mhh interesting, I like the theory that there are “good” entities such as Michael
@@alessiapalma8823 well I'm already at newest episodes and don't wanna spoiler anything, but i like your theory! keep going and find out
@@mikulek04 yes I am 😍 listened to whole season 1 in a couple of days lol
@@alessiapalma8823 So uh. How did that go lol.
@@NullIsntSane SPOILER ALERT
Dropped this when they were in that strange realm trying to stop the circus I think? Honestly at that point it was hard to keep up with all the details /plot plus I struggled a bit to understand the English from time to time, but it’s still a really good podcast
"Leave." HAHAHAHA F THAT! I would be running so damn fast.
honestly those last things he says made me feel like WERE the replacement archivist and are now listening to his tapes.
Jonny boy's anxiety is more infectious than those god damn worms
Get this man therapy
Spread the Word of the Magnus Archives
It deserves much more credit really
Oh, those ruminations on the nature of the tunnels. Hindsight is 20/20 and all, but it really is amazing how organic and well thought out even the "normal, background" descriptions are. Like, to have all this potential included right from the start and planned to this degree, so it matches absolutely perfectly, without any plotholes (at least none I could notice) and still with so awesomely ample room for speculations it is not only truly amazing, deeply humbling writing but also perfect for the genre!
Glad they kept the comments on for these videos! It’s kind of like a helpful guide and also connecting clues!
It's easier to keep track and also other people catch things you don't
Honestly i was half expecting martin to interupt like "wait you went down there? Why?"
And Robert Smirke appears again.
he was the architect from the other tunnels, right?
@@f_mva
Yes, and it appears that he was also a real person. Adds a bit of realism to the files...
I don't know why, but I love the way he said "Trust can get you killed."
I just spent two days binge listening Season 1, so glad there's so much more to hear yet!
15:42 Thank you Magnus Archives for finally solving a personal mystery of mine! I had forgotten which philosopher had this idea of a prison system and it's been BUGGING me
I guess this is kind of a metaphor for Jon being in too deep. His first monster attack came from the tunnels. Before that, Jon could hide and lie, but now he's in it for real, too deep to back out.
"Leave"
My dumbass in Jon's situation: Hey, I just came down to see if you needed anything. Looks like you may be out of wine.
There is something about Jon finding out that Gertrude recorded tapes, just like him, and I think it shows that she wasn't quite as careless or chaotic as Jon made her out to be in the first episodes but it is also a little scary. We don't know what she recorded, but it could be that she did it out of the same fear of becoming a mystery, that makes Jon record everything and now he can't even access them to be witness to her existence. I don't know, but to me that thought is so tragic and so bitter
I wonder if that had to do with the twice forgotten thing that popped up on the gravestone
Jon: *feels like he's being watched*
Me: *watching this* oh boy I wonder what he means by that?
Someone get Jon some therapy :c
He really needs it, and a hug
Mood
Woah, coming back and re listening to thisc podcast is so interesting, theres so much hints and foreshadowing. its almost a diffrent story
Mad ramblings aren't so mad when you know the context. Also....... Spoiler
I love the idea of uragan just trying his best to fascinate Jon and then running out of ideas then going "can you please leave now"
I caught a lot first time through for where Jon's story went, but the other characters arcs definitely hit a little different.
'why do i feel like im being watched?'
*laughs in rewatch*
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Two sides opposing. One wants him to discover something down there, the other wants him to stay out. Which means one thing. Jon is a threat, one that each side is either working to eliminate or exploit. Very curious.
Closed eye/ open eye motifs?
Such a twisty and turning episode
I listened to tma for the first time about a year ago. A few days ago, I decided to start over, and I was a little worried it'd be less creepy or entertaining, but thankfully I was extremely wrong. Knowing what happens later in the series makes all the little details dropped here and there wonderful :) Truly an excellent series!
You keep meeting and exceeding my expectations!!! Thank you!!!
Also I know it's a bit sad that I'm leaving these comments 10 months after everyone else but I just love this too much.^_^
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Every single time. The best stories.
He seems healthy
R E A L L Y?
martin's va doing the outro scared the shit out of me if i'm gonna be honest.
I would have taped a few hundred glow sticks to my body so I would have light all around me
Honestly I first thought of glow sticks too. I imagined just putting like a hundred of them in a net and carrying it with you but taping it to your body seems more practical tbh
I didn't think of that, but the string also occured to me! (But then again, wouldn't they just draw more arrows? Or change their direction?)
"I am not a brave man" bruh nooooo that reminded me of Sasha 😭😭
19:01
"I am not a brave man... I believe I am starting to come to terms with that fact, but I am, in certain circumstances, a very stubborn one..."
"There was something inside me that made the decision that I would rather die at the hands of some tunnel dwelling beast than work above without knowing what it was..."
I needed this ENTIRE THING... so I could get a full version of an edit audio.... it hurts because of how relatable it is...
Alex talking at the end (when i was expecting Jon) gave me a jumpscare 🙃
I thought that maybe instead of chalk john could've used like a string or something but then I thought that maybe whatever demons lurked in the tunnels could cut the string and the chalk seemed to make perfect sense to me then lol
Season 5 spoiler
"The only light down there is what you bring yourself" This fits quite well for the situation is s5
End of S4 Spoilers
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I can't believe they mentioned the Panopticon this early???? I know it's an actual concept from the real world but they did say they've had the ending planned almost from the start
The foreshadowing in the series is insane.
Jon's comments about the tunnels giving him a strange inexplicable feeling comeback in season 4-5 with a vengeance. His observations that it appears to be a maze also.
THIS episode reminds me of the expeditions in the book "House of Leaves"
Not that they have a lot in common, there is just something so scary about exploring tunnels and isolated labyrinthian corridors, while something/anything could be down there. The thrill of maybe finding something amazing 🤩 and the dread of maybe finding your own end 🪦
Cons: finding your own demise
Pros: maybe you'll find a little treasure chest at the end with a plastic spider ring in.
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Spoiler:
Jon finds both!
"the CO2 had done strange things to you at this point"
Ha, Kool aid man
Something I recently started thinking about is that the Magnus Institute was founded 1818, but the Millbank Prison was finished 1821. We know the Institute was build in the location of Millbank, but was it in another location while the prison was build and active?
I think so. The Institute, as in the organisation, is separate from the physical building.
It was originally located in Edinburgh, Scotland, and moved to London some time _after_ Millbank was demolished. The current institute building, like most of Kensington-Chelsea (including the Tate Gallery), is sitting on top of the site of Millbank Prison.
listening back to this again and I still think it's so funny how dramatic Jon is, like don't get me wrong, its a stressful situation- but my dude is very angst
TMA merch idea jar of ash £15.99
Outstanding episode!
"Why point me downwards, only to then demand I run back?"
Considering that I'm fairly sure from everything I heard prior this, that the Archive is the territory of Open Eye, maybe it wanted to simply get a look?
The most painful thing about being so late to this series is not being able to look up the amazing art that I’m sure exists out there…like I’m seeing the images so clearly in my head and it’s gonna be so satisfying to finally be able to look them up, but…spoilers 😣
yall remember back when all he did was complain about gertrude and martin with that monotone voice of his? ya, i remember that too
this has really strong House of Leaves vibes and i'm here for it
plays minecraft while listening to this, knowingly making strip mine tunnels while slowly making a maze
I think I started listening to the MA at the perfect time. As it seems like I will be coming back. To be honest I'm not that far in in the grand scale of things but I find I enjoy the story narrations much more than the wrap around story.
Jesus my lamp blew right as the end sound effect played
Your listening to the magnus archives by lamp light, coolest mf ive seen in the comments
I know were supposed to be worried and sympathize with Jon, which Im doing a lot of, I'd give my life for all the characters here, the good ones at least and hearing Jon's voice sounding so broken broke me, and him apologizing to Martin is the sweetest thing ever, in short, this episode, although Im only 4 minutes and exactly 10 seconds long, has me going on an emotional rollercoaster. But the comments, the fricking comments. All the comments as of 12th February 2021 7:34 pm phst are all odd numbers. Which may not freak you out but my mind is scattered from Sasha dying, Tim still signed off, Martin doing the outro instead of Jon ( I learned that from a comment) and all the other stuff that has been going on in the world and in TMA Universe has made me super jumpy and now fricking odd numbers scare me. This series is amazing as fuck and is one of the best things ever, along with white chocolate, and no one is changing my mind.
Jon: trust can get you killed
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Me: take what I'm "looking for" and shove it up your-
Jon: statement ends
Wait wait wait, Jon says whenever he reads a statement he feels watched. Is he referring to us, the audience?? We’re literally watching him.
This episode terrified me the most.
I love the Magnus archives.
Jon, bless his soul, is one in a million guys who would compare the dead worms to sausage casings and not... well.. something else.
Big ace energy
The arrow pointing down.... We heard previously how the things were studying how to imitate humans, studying anatomy and what-nots. I think the arrow was supposed to be the same kind of imitation, but the thing hadn't understood the reasoning of it. I don't think it wanted him to follow it down. Maybe it was imitating that arrow because it noticed he wasn't going down any areas that had been marked, and it thought that by marking it, he would skip over it too, not understanding how they were pointing back to the entrance
Great thinking! I'm going to now assume that this is what happened
Writhing hordes would be a great band name.
Poor Jon he needs to at least confide his secrets to someone he trusts like a friend but I guess he doesn't really have one?