I have barely plaid any magic, but a friend of mine wanted me to build a deck and play him, and so when I started doing research I found this channel I can not stop watching. It is so good in terms of quality and effort put fourth.
I just wanna say I love the content that comes off this channel. I stumbled upon this a few weeks back due to "related" stuff on my side bar. Played alot during the theros block and took a hiatus from tarkir until Ixalan release and I'm glad I'm back! I seriously love this new block! Props on the cool decks you've been posting dude! I have most of the budget list minus the rivals stuff and I'm totally going to build it to play in my local group of friends.
I have gravitated towards Pirates and here you are, you godly man, making TWO pirate decks available for us to play and tweak out to our own preferences! Thank YOU sir!!!!!! Both decks you presented to us, are very fun on paper, cant wait to build both decks and play them.
I built the red black deck, 1st deck in 10 years, I love it, it’s faster than a jackrabbit on crack and is the perfect aggro deck for me to get back into magic with. Cheers dude
Hi Dev! I just built my version of RB Pirates tribal very similar to this one. Hits fast and very aggressive, though I did some tweaking to suit my play style. These awesome deck techs earned you a sub from me, cheers!
Thanks for the great offmeta Black Red pirates deck tek. Went 3 and 1 tonight at FNM and took 2nd. Uber budget...have shatters instead of and are, but still did work. Thanks!!
Mera goldo if there are deck tech i enjoy watching even if im not playing that particular set, those are yours man. Siempre muy buena info and down to Earth. Love your chanell man. Keep it up
For the budget list, I'd like to suggest Forerunner over Ruin Raider. It still sets you up for the turn 4 anthem, except then you can run 4x Forerunner and drop down to 2x Neckbreaker. Also, March of the Drowned is a great sideboard card against sweepers. One Mana to draw two creatures is nuts!
Built this deck from scratch and it's great. Experience points me towards playing it really as pure control. Poisoner just screws up a lot of tempo tactics, and Warkite Marauder really makes blocking impossible. Was thinking of cutting back both of those creatures to just x3 to make room for Chart A Course x2 on the main deck, but I don't have enough sideboard experience to show that's enough to justify it maindecking :)
I'm probably going to try out both of these, but possibly going just UB instead of grixis. Also I LOVED and had a lot of fun with your budget mono red dinosaur deck from XLN, you should do an updated deck deck for that with the new RIX cards ;)
That second deck you couldn't classify is what most call a "Control/Aggro" or "Tempo" deck. The are usually hard to build and pilot, so they are made less often and harder to classify.
Question about snatchcaster (crapcaster?). When ETB you exile an instant or sorcery. It says you can cast that spell this turn, but when you cast it it goes back to exile. Does that mean you can cast it multiple times? If not, why not? I don't think that's how it is intended to work, but it doesn't give the spell flashback like Snapcaster does, and I can't seem to figure why that wouldn't work.
If you guys like the rakdos list, mtggoldfish did a similar one recently, a bit more tempo but still very agressive :D I love to see those different takes on pirates cause gives me a lot of ideas and a solid reference for my own brewing, so I think checking them out is worth it :3
Idk if you have done this, but I'd be real interested in seeing your take on a Trove of Temptation + Makeshift munition control like deck, using all the treasures you get from trove to clear small creatures with Munition, and use maybe counterspells and destruction spells to deal with the big stuff.
sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?&t%5BC1%5D=1&start_date=2018-01-20&end_date=2018-01-21&event_ID=36&t_num=1&limit=8&start_num=8&limit=8 a UR list made top 16 in an scg classic
UR with a splash for Beckett is pretty legit, tons of evasion//can use forerunner's to fetch her so you don't run too much of what may otherwise be a dead card.
David Snedden using treasure makes pirates really splashable. I’ve done alright with 3colors in draft with a couple sailor of means. Dire fleet neck breaker is worth splashing for if you’re not already in rakdos.
Nice lists. I made a mono blue favorable winds pirates deck that was actually decent against temur but the decks post-ban have way more flyers it seems
Not a bad list, I am also working on a grixis pirate list but I've been gearing it far more aggressive. I tried a similar list to this but each game I felt like a weaker u/b mid-range. I'll post the list I've been working on if you would like.
Hey Dev I’m hoping to see your favorable pirates list. I built a dimir one for Ixalan but don’t know what to add from rivals of ixalan other than warkite marauder
What if you try like 3 march of the drowned in the sideboard, it can help you cast like a ruin Raider they shocked in the early game and get them extra steam
Like the first deck better. However for that one i would add Forerunner of the Coalition because it would interact better with Ruin Raider and would filter the deck better
How would you build the non-budget version differently if you had to play exclusively pirates? I don't want to play a purposefully budget deck but when I play tribal I want to be all in tribal and play more payoffs for it.
Heading to a PPTQ this weekend with the budget deck (modified), and am looking for a little feedback on some additional cards that might work better vs the big ones that I will see in the meta this weekend. Grixis, mono-red, constricter, etc... I understand the profitably attack on each turn, but I am finding that vs the bigger meta decks I am coming up about 4 short on turn 5 to shut it all down. Suggestions in the form of burn and artifacts maybe? Are there 3 and 4 drop BURN spells that could make up that difference? What about Combat tricks -- I have messed around with Sure Strike, Bucs Bravado and am thinking FLING might be fun (Call the Deck Poo Flinging Pirates --ode to Monster Monster Hunter World Dung Pods). Thoughts ?
Out of curiosity. Why does no one play Sword Point Diplomacy in blue black pirates? Especially in heavy creature decks? It performs pretty well in my Pirate deck, and O don't even think my deck is good.
Dev! Love your Grixis deck list! Just wondering what your thoughts are about using Siren's Ruse? I think there's potentially a lot of upside to using it. Card draw, creature protection and ETB triggers.
I'm surprised you don't have Storm Fleet Swashbuckler in here. Getting to ten permanents is easy when you're loading the board with tiny creatures, and double strike plus effects that cards like Dire Fleet Neckbreaker grant is awesome.
Always important to remind everyone Settle the Wreckage targets the attacking player so Stormtamer keeps your opponent from Settling your board. That's more relevant for Favorable Winds pirates than Grixis pirates, but it's never bad to keep UW Control from casting Settle.
Hey, Dev. Any chances that you will upgrade that G/W aggro list from ixalan standard? It got so much more powerful since rivals came out. And it is performing very good at my lgs.
Hey dev how about a deck tech of with B/G or B/R deathtouch trample with the new planeswalker deck veraska which ever has the most trample either green or red?
Can u build a profane procession deck with hour were you take there creature hour of revelation and then play the cards with Exiled for 4 mana and get in a race against them
I'm wondering why there are no copies of any of these cards - Ifnir Deadlands, Arch of Orazca, Field of Ruin, or cycling lands. I know you want the Hubs ( although I'd drop them for utility lands ). But even with the hubs, there is room for some utility in this manabase. It feels like somewhat like an agro deck manabase tacked onto a midrange deck currently. I'm also questioning the lack of Abrade in this list with Mardu Vehicles taking a large uptick in the meta. ( also gearhulks, flip artifacts, etc, )
Interesting, i built a similar deck but 23 pirates by adding the two drop that has raid. Going two colors let me go to 23 lands. I was going to run the pirate vechicle, but maybe Harvester is better. I was also going to run the graveyard pirate card, isn't that like a draw card?
Why not +1 Ruin Raider and -3 Lannary Storm for cheaper drops or removal? I'd also be interested in all red 1 drops, just to help ease mana requirements. 4 Daring Buccaneer, 4 Fanatical Firebrand, 4 Rigging Runner, 4 Dire Fleet Captain, 4 Dire Fleet Poisoner, 4 Fathom Fleet Captain, 4? Wanted Scoundrels, 3? Kari Zev, Skyship Raider, 4? Kitesail Freebooter, 4 Ruin Raider, 4 Dire Fleet Neckbreaker +/- 4 for Lightning Strike?
I've only watched the budget list, but Seth's version is clearly superior. If you watched the video, you could see how forerunner and poisoner were just insane and playing freebooter main along with the forerunner package gave you more options and more reach. I do agree that Pirates is the tribe that deserves more love, but I'm not sure that budget list is where you want to be.
Yea I agree, Seth's is well rounded and consistent and has better reach. Dev's is just all in and gets blown out by removal,. Fanatical firebrand LOL...no thanks.
I haven’t seen Seth’s video (didn’t know he had done one), but in case you missed it, I said Poisoner was slightly out of budget, but you should play it if you have it. I tried forerunner but found it to be kinda bad in my experience (if we’re trying to go as fast as possible, I don’t think forerunner is the right choice). Thanks for watching though!
Strictly Better MtG I loved the vid and I really like your grixis list. Poisoner is out of range because of Seth's video and his deck from when I last checked is still under $55 with poisoner. I think forerunner is better for the reach it gives you and it allows you to play "tech pirates." I'm excited for more modern content and the modern pt, keep up the great work.
No Admiral's Order or Captivating Crew in budget at least? Oh well you know better than me ofc. Any chance you could put up a tempo boros list I think there is good space for that kind of deck.
Running grixis control pirates and i think its got serious potential. No one is using siren's ruse. Best card when running forerunner of the coalition or trying to protect your creatures from removal spells. On top of that it lets you draw a card.
+strictlybettermtg Sir... if it wasn't for the scarab god I couldn't tell which was not the competitive list... That budget list was insane. I loved it and easy to upgrade. Great stuff.
I have barely plaid any magic, but a friend of mine wanted me to build a deck and play him, and so when I started doing research I found this channel I can not stop watching. It is so good in terms of quality and effort put fourth.
I just wanna say I love the content that comes off this channel. I stumbled upon this a few weeks back due to "related" stuff on my side bar. Played alot during the theros block and took a hiatus from tarkir until Ixalan release and I'm glad I'm back! I seriously love this new block! Props on the cool decks you've been posting dude! I have most of the budget list minus the rivals stuff and I'm totally going to build it to play in my local group of friends.
I have gravitated towards Pirates and here you are, you godly man, making TWO pirate decks available for us to play and tweak out to our own preferences! Thank YOU sir!!!!!! Both decks you presented to us, are very fun on paper, cant wait to build both decks and play them.
Never heard of this channel before your Rivals deck tech series. That Grixis list just earned you a sub. Keep it up, and your cat is cool.
Best MTG youtuber by far! Vids just keep getting better! So many decks I want to build!
I built the red black deck, 1st deck in 10 years, I love it, it’s faster than a jackrabbit on crack and is the perfect aggro deck for me to get back into magic with. Cheers dude
Hi Dev! I just built my version of RB Pirates tribal very similar to this one. Hits fast and very aggressive, though I did some tweaking to suit my play style. These awesome deck techs earned you a sub from me, cheers!
The Artwork of Stormtamer fits so well with the "NOOOO" :D
Thanks for the great offmeta Black Red pirates deck tek. Went 3 and 1 tonight at FNM and took 2nd. Uber budget...have shatters instead of and are, but still did work. Thanks!!
Been waiting on a pirates list from you since the set released!
The grixis pirates deck looks like a lot of fun, thanks for the builds!
Mera goldo if there are deck tech i enjoy watching even if im not playing that particular set, those are yours man. Siempre muy buena info and down to Earth. Love your chanell man. Keep it up
For the budget list, I'd like to suggest Forerunner over Ruin Raider. It still sets you up for the turn 4 anthem, except then you can run 4x Forerunner and drop down to 2x Neckbreaker.
Also, March of the Drowned is a great sideboard card against sweepers. One Mana to draw two creatures is nuts!
Built this deck from scratch and it's great. Experience points me towards playing it really as pure control. Poisoner just screws up a lot of tempo tactics, and Warkite Marauder really makes blocking impossible. Was thinking of cutting back both of those creatures to just x3 to make room for Chart A Course x2 on the main deck, but I don't have enough sideboard experience to show that's enough to justify it maindecking :)
Oh man, I'm definitely trying the R/B Pirates. You're the best, Dev.
THAT BEAT though at the start.
I'm probably going to try out both of these, but possibly going just UB instead of grixis. Also I LOVED and had a lot of fun with your budget mono red dinosaur deck from XLN, you should do an updated deck deck for that with the new RIX cards ;)
That second deck you couldn't classify is what most call a "Control/Aggro" or "Tempo" deck. The are usually hard to build and pilot, so they are made less often and harder to classify.
Question about snatchcaster (crapcaster?). When ETB you exile an instant or sorcery. It says you can cast that spell this turn, but when you cast it it goes back to exile. Does that mean you can cast it multiple times? If not, why not? I don't think that's how it is intended to work, but it doesn't give the spell flashback like Snapcaster does, and I can't seem to figure why that wouldn't work.
2 things:
1- You're awesome bro! Keep up the sweet videos!
2- What is the song in the opening of this video??
I'm here for you until the end Dev. You're the man.
11:43 nuuuuuu
RDMANGLE-YT someone should make this into a dubstep
The best part of the video
lots of fun these guys . and tons of brewing potential . Arr Matie!
If you guys like the rakdos list, mtggoldfish did a similar one recently, a bit more tempo but still very agressive :D I love to see those different takes on pirates cause gives me a lot of ideas and a solid reference for my own brewing, so I think checking them out is worth it :3
Idk if you have done this, but I'd be real interested in seeing your take on a Trove of Temptation + Makeshift munition control like deck, using all the treasures you get from trove to clear small creatures with Munition, and use maybe counterspells and destruction spells to deal with the big stuff.
Holy shiat Dev you the man! That Red/Black tech is SICK!
Wish you also did a U/R but I know it's the least popular iteration of Pirates. I'm building one and it's been fun playing it.
SilverSpades I like the idea of playing amunitions in a U/R treasure and pirates deck
sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/deckshow.php?&t%5BC1%5D=1&start_date=2018-01-20&end_date=2018-01-21&event_ID=36&t_num=1&limit=8&start_num=8&limit=8 a UR list made top 16 in an scg classic
UR with a splash for Beckett is pretty legit, tons of evasion//can use forerunner's to fetch her so you don't run too much of what may otherwise be a dead card.
David Snedden using treasure makes pirates really splashable. I’ve done alright with 3colors in draft with a couple sailor of means. Dire fleet neck breaker is worth splashing for if you’re not already in rakdos.
Dimir Pirates is not the least popular version of Pirates.
Ever heard of Izzet Pirates? Me neither.
I come to this channel for the nagic and the kitty cats. Had me worried until the end there Dev
The budget version reminds me of a smaller Modern Minotaurs, especially with that four drop.
Nice lists. I made a mono blue favorable winds pirates deck that was actually decent against temur but the decks post-ban have way more flyers it seems
I can't wait if you do another take on a budget Dino deck, or something about dinos in general.
Siren's Ruse is worth considering for the grixis build. It's such a versatile card
Not a bad list, I am also working on a grixis pirate list but I've been gearing it far more aggressive. I tried a similar list to this but each game I felt like a weaker u/b mid-range. I'll post the list I've been working on if you would like.
Hey Dev I’m hoping to see your favorable pirates list. I built a dimir one for Ixalan but don’t know what to add from rivals of ixalan other than warkite marauder
I hope this grixis list catches on so Dinosaurs w/ Galta will have a place
You're the best, Dev!
Love that grixis list. Looks too fun and I'll definitely want to try it out at my fnm
What if you try like 3 march of the drowned in the sideboard, it can help you cast like a ruin Raider they shocked in the early game and get them extra steam
Did you say more deck techs! Did you say pauper deck techs!!!😃 Did you say Commander deck techs!!!!!!!😆😆😆
Kevin Hayes I am so ready for some Commander deck techs. Maybe some budget lists?
Like the first deck better. However for that one i would add Forerunner of the Coalition because it would interact better with Ruin Raider and would filter the deck better
How would you build the non-budget version differently if you had to play exclusively pirates? I don't want to play a purposefully budget deck but when I play tribal I want to be all in tribal and play more payoffs for it.
I love the pirates dino hunter
Have you thought about Fiery Cannonade (mainboard)? Being a one-sided sweeper, at instant speed, for 3 mana, is pretty baller.
That new intro music
I really like your videos and am very grateful for your content. You and your cat rule
Heading to a PPTQ this weekend with the budget deck (modified), and am looking for a little feedback on some additional cards that might work better vs the big ones that I will see in the meta this weekend. Grixis, mono-red, constricter, etc... I understand the profitably attack on each turn, but I am finding that vs the bigger meta decks I am coming up about 4 short on turn 5 to shut it all down. Suggestions in the form of burn and artifacts maybe? Are there 3 and 4 drop BURN spells that could make up that difference? What about Combat tricks -- I have messed around with Sure Strike, Bucs Bravado and am thinking FLING might be fun (Call the Deck Poo Flinging Pirates --ode to Monster Monster Hunter World Dung Pods). Thoughts ?
Anyone have any idea what the song at the beginning is? I really like it.
What does he look at when he looks to his right?
yay commander deck techs!!!
I always read it as dire fleet neckbeard. 😂
Out of curiosity. Why does no one play Sword Point Diplomacy in blue black pirates? Especially in heavy creature decks? It performs pretty well in my Pirate deck, and O don't even think my deck is good.
Dev! Love your Grixis deck list! Just wondering what your thoughts are about using Siren's Ruse? I think there's potentially a lot of upside to using it. Card draw, creature protection and ETB triggers.
I'm surprised you don't have Storm Fleet Swashbuckler in here. Getting to ten permanents is easy when you're loading the board with tiny creatures, and double strike plus effects that cards like Dire Fleet Neckbreaker grant is awesome.
love the music
Thanks for the content !
BG Explore!
Always important to remind everyone Settle the Wreckage targets the attacking player so Stormtamer keeps your opponent from Settling your board.
That's more relevant for Favorable Winds pirates than Grixis pirates, but it's never bad to keep UW Control from casting Settle.
anybody have the name of that opening beat?
Hey, Dev. Any chances that you will upgrade that G/W aggro list from ixalan standard? It got so much more powerful since rivals came out. And it is performing very good at my lgs.
YESSSS! Girixis Pirates!
Hey dev how about a deck tech of with B/G or B/R deathtouch trample with the new planeswalker deck veraska which ever has the most trample either green or red?
what about a mashup of both? do you think aggro grixis could work?
What's the opening song?
can you do blue white flyers? and how do you get the grades for your decks? have a nice day
Why do you put abrade to the side instead of lightning strike ? Abrade is more flexible than LS. It could have 4 others cards to the side.
Please make a green/white Dino deck tech!!!
Haha
Can u build a profane procession deck with hour were you take there creature hour of revelation and then play the cards with Exiled for 4 mana and get in a race against them
Strategy be *DAMNED* im throwing in one silver bullet nicol bolas!
That music tho. Dude. Where did that intro music come from?
Commander deck teck sounds nice. ;)
If you do double deck techs, can you please put time stamps for each in the description?
What about Nicol Bolas ??
Sweet I will stream this tomorrow night. Which one you guys want to see? Or both?
SideboardMTG porque no los dos?
0n3 Guy Dev got me with the double... I wasn't ready... you got it. both it is. So the first double Dev's Deck.
Stop mooching off other peoples channel douche bag
SideboardMTG both m8
Competitive one!
Dev, you spoil us.
Commander!!!!
I'm wondering why there are no copies of any of these cards - Ifnir Deadlands, Arch of Orazca, Field of Ruin, or cycling lands. I know you want the Hubs ( although I'd drop them for utility lands ). But even with the hubs, there is room for some utility in this manabase. It feels like somewhat like an agro deck manabase tacked onto a midrange deck currently.
I'm also questioning the lack of Abrade in this list with Mardu Vehicles taking a large uptick in the meta. ( also gearhulks, flip artifacts, etc, )
Thanks for the deck dev! I’m taking this to fnm 😁
Holy moly what was that starting song
Daring buc
Is a good card, within the tribe build
Interesting, i built a similar deck but 23 pirates by adding the two drop that has raid. Going two colors let me go to 23 lands. I was going to run the pirate vechicle, but maybe Harvester is better. I was also going to run the graveyard pirate card, isn't that like a draw card?
Why not +1 Ruin Raider and -3 Lannary Storm for cheaper drops or removal? I'd also be interested in all red 1 drops, just to help ease mana requirements.
4 Daring Buccaneer, 4 Fanatical Firebrand, 4 Rigging Runner, 4 Dire Fleet Captain, 4 Dire Fleet Poisoner, 4 Fathom Fleet Captain, 4? Wanted Scoundrels, 3? Kari Zev, Skyship Raider, 4? Kitesail Freebooter, 4 Ruin Raider, 4 Dire Fleet Neckbreaker +/- 4 for Lightning Strike?
William Simkulet sounds very reasonable, i play bomat courier, no neckbreaker, fatal push, supernatural stamina and vance blasting cannons
don't overlook that Warkite marauder plus direct damage can kill the Scarab God AND keep it from returning to hand.
Great vid 🍻
Thanks for the budget
I've only watched the budget list, but Seth's version is clearly superior. If you watched the video, you could see how forerunner and poisoner were just insane and playing freebooter main along with the forerunner package gave you more options and more reach. I do agree that Pirates is the tribe that deserves more love, but I'm not sure that budget list is where you want to be.
Yea I agree, Seth's is well rounded and consistent and has better reach. Dev's is just all in and gets blown out by removal,. Fanatical firebrand LOL...no thanks.
I haven’t seen Seth’s video (didn’t know he had done one), but in case you missed it, I said Poisoner was slightly out of budget, but you should play it if you have it. I tried forerunner but found it to be kinda bad in my experience (if we’re trying to go as fast as possible, I don’t think forerunner is the right choice). Thanks for watching though!
Strictly Better MtG I loved the vid and I really like your grixis list. Poisoner is out of range because of Seth's video and his deck from when I last checked is still under $55 with poisoner. I think forerunner is better for the reach it gives you and it allows you to play "tech pirates." I'm excited for more modern content and the modern pt, keep up the great work.
Admiral Beckett Brass?
commander or pauper or even pauper commander would be pretty naise
Would Gruesome Fate be a good fit for the first deck.
No Admiral's Order or Captivating Crew in budget at least? Oh well you know better than me ofc. Any chance you could put up a tempo boros list I think there is good space for that kind of deck.
esper or blue black treasure control
The audio scores man!
Pirate beatz!
Running grixis control pirates and i think its got serious potential. No one is using siren's ruse. Best card when running forerunner of the coalition or trying to protect your creatures from removal spells. On top of that it lets you draw a card.
+strictlybettermtg Sir... if it wasn't for the scarab god I couldn't tell which was not the competitive list... That budget list was insane. I loved it and easy to upgrade. Great stuff.
What would you replace the Scarab God with if you don’t want to spend $30 on a single card but still want to be competitive
you could swap it for hostage taker probably, or use those spots for some draw. but I haven't tested that so idk
Adam Kruschwitz well there’s only 1 spot for hostage taker left.
What does he mean by "goldfish"?
i kinda want to fit in chandra twice for beatdown
I would play 1 more lookout's dispersal I have a U/B pirate deck dispersal is really good
Dead eye tracker 1 mana an dud I mis it or why not dire fleet interloper or ravager
Cuestion: There is a option to make a competitive deck Blue/Black - Pirates? Or something Blue/Black?
La chizppa blue black control, check on mtgtop8 dallas decks, also grixis midrange is very expensive but probably the best deck out there